/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Tomorrow, EU time, about 15-16 hours

FUCK YEAH curtain call on the 30th

>>4884647
ty, how long for a crack, a day? looking forward to playing on the weekend

>>4884663
You'll have the crack for the weekend, no problem, with luck it'll be the same.
Though you should wait for the music patch (and if you want it), the sprite patch, which don't take really long but the first one is a hassle to make.

>>4884675
ty, i don't think ill wait for the sprite patch,i played the first 4 with it but played ep5 without it and didn't really care abut it.

You could buy it.

>>4884675

I don't think we've gotten a proper music patch for the last one yet.

>>4884825
Yes, we got some music files I think, especially the higurashi/semi cries, that was the main part worng with it, they changed a 5 min cry with an eternal 5 sec loop and another couple of things.

>>4884875
Ah yeah, further explanation, anon from spain created a way so you could use the same engine you used for eps 1-4 for meakashi, so all the songs mangagamer didn't return from those games is in.

>>4884875
>>4884891

But some guy was posting a while back about how in addition to that a couple other new tracks were replaced. No one seemed to care though so i don't think it was fixed.

Buy it faggot, christ...

>>4885393

shut up, you.

>>4885393
>Manga Gamers
>Buy

>>4885554
What's so weird about buying from them? Did they rape your mom or something?

spoiler: Keiichi saves Rena... not

>>4885559
It's simple, really.
You want to buy it - you go and buy it; I do not have the right to tell you not to buy it.
I do not want to buy it - I do not go and do not buy it; you do not have the right to tell me to buy it.
Comprende?

>>4885559
they released them separately

>>4885808

And I believe that I in fact, do have every right to tell you to buy it.

Unless you plan to not acquire it at all.

Meakashi's music was never completely fixed.

The person that did the BGM fix fixed the same ones that were missing in Higurashi arcs 1-4 that were reused in Meakashi, but someone realized about a week later that some Kai tracks, including some really good ones, were changed as well. We never got a patch for those ones.

Also, some of the artists that did some of the pivotal music in this arc and Minagoroshi (IIRC) were the artists that had music changed in Meakashi.

>>4888059
>rights
>internet

I have the right to not give two fucks about whatever you say, and you have the right to throw your money away.
Everyone wins.

>>4888078

Is it especially difficult to replace the music tracks? If not, why can't we get someone here to do it?

>>4885559

Because their translations can hardly be called that.

>>4888098

I would do it myself but I have no idea where to even begin working with the BGI engine.

The person that usually does it hangs around here sometimes, though.

Any DL sites up by now?

>>4888059
Lookie, we've got a Mangagamer's mole here. Who woulda thought... Anyway, make sure you grab the crack and save it in a safe location as soon as it's up. The same applies to torrent/DDL.

Every time you pirate a mangagamer game, you are actually raping the mascot.

Also, Rena's left arm in OP looks like a penis.

>>4888112

Last I checked (when SHUFFLE! came out), AnimED was able to extract and repack BGI's archives. Might be worth a try, it's free anyway.

http://sl.criminalrussia.ru/dsp2003/animed.php?p=docu

fucking torrent, where?

>>4889889
There's a DDL on mangagamers site.

I read up to chapter 5 then said "fuck it" and watched the rest in anime form. Oddly enough, I haven't lost any will to read the rest of the VN even though I know all the answers.

Bitches need to pay mangagamer for translating, seriously. I plan to pick up the Edelweiss and Kirakira packs as well as Deardrops as soon as it comes out.

Sure, I really want physical copies and box art 'n shit. But I want them to get paid for their work, especially now that it's actually decent.

>>4889917
Yeah, whatever. Mangagamer have to make 'bitches' _want_ to buy their games, NOT to make 'bitches' buy their games. That's all.

>decent

lolol

>>4889950
You have an obligation to pay for a product if you choose to use it. Otherwise you are a leech and scum.

>>4890032

Oh shut up, you fucking prude.

People like you should be killed.

>>4890032

Good luck getting customer base with this kind of attitude. You know why M$ don't sue common pirates, don't you? Now go back to that PR course you've slept through.

>>4889898

So is this a "You can buy it" thing or is there actually a DDL somewhere on there that I'm too stupid to find?

meakashi had all those versions of `you` in it, i dont think a music patch is nessecary with those beautiful pieces

>>4890101
Well, you need to give them money before they give you the DDL link.

>>4890048
I should be killed for fulfilling my duty as a customer?

What kinda backwards world do you live in?

>>4890135

Shut your mouth, you worthless parasite.

>>4890142
Oh hi Pot. Sure is nice weather we're having huh?

>>4889917
I'll buy it if they bring out a pack of all 4 Kai episodes for a decent price.

Until then, piracy all the way.

Download link where

>>4890149
Whatev, that's what I'm doing with Umineko too. I'm not saying I'm a fucking saint or anything. I pirate hella shit but I still feel guilty and work on paying for it all when I can.

>>4890159
>Whatev,
>hella shit
redneck americunt detected

>>4890168
Middle class white male American from the pacific northwest.

Fuck you, it's an image board, not a political debate.

>>4890116

Figured as much. You should be able to use the link if someone were to post it, though, right? At that point, it's a matter of asking someone who bought it.

>>4890201
Getting the game isn't the problem. We are just waiting for a cracked exe so we don't need a serial.

>>4890207
How's cracked .exe supposed to appear if there's no game to crack available in first place?

>>4890207

It is for me, because I can't even manage to find that much.

>>4890221
You can buy the game from their site.
We're waiting on the crack to use the sprite patch and other fixes.

>>4890233
>You can buy the game from their site.

Not unless they finally start to accept PayPal transactions. Even then I wouldn't blindly buy it before confirming what they butchered this time.
Anyway, that's not the point.

You don't think a hacker would buy the stuff he's going to crack himself, do you?

If someone had uploaded it somewhere the crack would be done by now, like always.

>buy
>19 euro for one episode

Its practically bordering scam. I wanted to buy it, but than they atarted releasing Kai in that way - no money from me. Ever.

They are doing it only for the reason the first part was cracked in 15 hours. Now when they are releasing it separately - 4x15hours = 60. Gratz. I will wait, I am patient.

>>4888098
>Because their translations can hardly be called that.
Ever since Soul Link release MG's translations have been really good.
Well, except for Cosplay Alien, but that was bad no matter how you look at it.

>>4890322
If you want to know how the game is before you play it, then keep an eye on Japanator and UK Anime instead of trying to pirate it.

Those two sites and a few others will be reviewing the game for you.

>>4890401
I'm glad you liked the work I did on Soul Link. I also did the translations for Eiden Fantasia and Kira Kira Curtain Call.

>>4890389
We're not doing it because you 'cracked it so easily'. We're releasing them separately because we thought you'd all rather have one every few months rather than waiting until they were all finished.

And we're not trying to 'scam' anyone with the price. There are licensing fees, translation fees, and many more costs going into this game than there was when it was released as a doujin game.

Think of it this way--Look at all the work going into Katawara Shoujo. Do you think they'll sell that for a very high price in English, if any price at all? Now imagine all the costs that would go into a Japanese company trying to license it, translate it and release it in Japan. Heck, the Japanese side would probably also have to pay the original creator who came up with the idea a royalty fee as well, even though he never did any work on the game.

cuntomers

Are the original kai games uploaded somewhere in their original language? Not that I want to read it in its original language, I just want to go through the games BGMs

>>4890501
Are you trying to decrease amount of possible sales, or something?

>>4890501
Can you answer few things Kouryuu?

1. People have been saying stuff about Dear Drops getting near simultaneous release in Japanese and English. Is there any truth behind this?
2. After that "What do you us to release" thing, have you been in talks with any new companies that people asked for?
3. How does the translation work pay?

>>4890501
Hey Kouryuu, can you give us any info regarding Deardrops? Are you guys translating it simultaneously or will work start after it's released in June?

>>4890583
you have higurashi pretty much everywhere.

>>4890501

The thing is, people know that the games were butchered quite horribly, with missing bgm, horrible typos, etc.

You need to gain their trust again by presenting proper translations/content, not by preaching to them on what's right.

Right now, I wouldn't pay that much for a game that has a good chance of having numerous typos and missing content.

So yeah. Stop posting right now, you're probably hurting your sales by doing this.

>>4890636
>>4890638
Wow, Deardropsmind

>>4890642
Are you talking about my earlier posts? Because I am a random anon with no affiliation to Mangagamer. I'm just a moralfag.

>>4890642
>So yeah. Stop posting right now, you're probably hurting your sales by doing this.

Of course though this is nearly impossible, seeing that few on here buy stuff legally anyways and will always have an excuse to pirate.

Hey Kouryuu, how did the sale help you guys sales wise? I know I picked up Da Capo during it, something I wouldn't have picked up at full price.

>>4890654

>I'm just a moralfag.

So do the right thing and stop posting if you want Mangagamer to get more customers.

>>4890676
I am letting it go. But you're a fool to think my posts actually "worsen" the situation.

>>4890705

Back at you. You're a fool to think that your posts actually "better" the situation. At least, not in here, not on 4chan.

>>4890723
I'm not saying they are, fool.

>>4890727
Yeah well I'm not your buddy, guy.

>>4890736
I'm not your guy, friend.

>>4890746
I'm not your friend, buddy.

>>4890723
>Back at you. You're a fool to think that your posts actually "better" the situation. At least, not in here, not on 4chan.

You are an idiot if you think that a translator posting stuff is going to hurt sales. It might not help much on a website full of pirates (who knows), but it's not going to hurt.

Kouryuu: I can't wait for the Edelweiss patch, Eiden Fantasia had one of the best commercial localizations I have seen.

>>4890754
[disclaimer]Again.... I'm not a translator for Mangagamer or anything, nor has Kouryuu said anything that should be considered harmful to their image. I'm just an angry fan[/disclaimer]

>>4890767
What, so Kouryuu didn't post in this thread at all, but it was you messing around? You're making me confused.

>>4890775
No... Kouryuu posted this:
>>4890501
All the other bitching and whining without a name was done by me.

>but it's not going to hurt.

Yes it is. Urging people to buy their stuff (because it's morally right) when the previous products have major shortcomings isn't good marketing.

>>4890754
>You are an idiot if you think that a translator posting stuff is going to hurt sales.
Depends on translator's stupidity/trolling skills. If he manages to make 4chan rage, I bet money it will hurt.

Honestly though, John aka Kouryuu doesn't seem capable of doing that (interpret as you will).

>>4890501
Damn it Kouryuu, don't just post once and diseappear without answering stuff people asked!

>>4890636
>>4890638
1) As for DearDrops, I see no reason we won't be translating it. We have a pretty close relation to Overdrive. I don't think a simultaneous release will happen though. It's something I'd love to do personally, but I doubt we will. I know right now I'm bogged down on trying to fix Koihime and a couple of our other projects.

These answers are off-record.

2) Kind of. I'm not entirely sure who the others have been negotiating with since right now I'm working on weeding out the people who caused us to have bad translations in the first place--I mean, working on my own projects.

3) Not as well as I'd like since we aren't selling enough.

>>4890672
It helped a fair amount actually. We might do another one for a different set of games in the near future.

>>4890754
Thanks. I'm also doing a lot of the work on the Edelweiss corrections. So yeah... the difference between the original and the new scripts are already quite vast. @_@

I'm still surprised no one caught the screencap and put up the "DO NOT WANT" moment from EEF.

There are a lot of other things going back in too... like Alchemy Man's "Gold La Esperma" beam and his "Gold Anus Cutter" attack...

>>4890775
I am posting in this thread, I'm just only checking it now-and-then because work must be done too.

>>4890868
>It helped a fair amount actually. We might do another one for a different set of games in the near future.

Do something during the convention season, especially if you have plans for some big announcements (especially if they are Key related) and take full advantage of the increased traffic.

>>4890868
This was the only moment in Eiden Fantasia translation that kind of bugged me.

Anyway, thank you for all the work you are doing, it really is wonderful.

>>4890868
>It helped a fair amount actually. We might do another one for a different set of games in the near future.

Don't know if you can answer this, but how did KiraKira all ages sell compared to the 18+ version during the sale week? There was quite a difference in price for just the adult content, and I was wondering if people were paying the extra 10 euros for the 18+ version during the sale.

>>4890785
Honestly, I realize some of the games that slipped out managed to have a lot of problems. And no, I probably wouldn't buy those either. I'd just rather you didn't pirate them so you could use the time that would be spent playing said pirated copy on say, playing one of our other games that did have the quality you were willing to pay for.

I don't think it's unreasonable for someone in the business to ask that you either pay for the game or don't acquire it at all.

>>4890793
Maybe I could, maybe I couldn't. I don't think it's worth trying to do though, so I'd never bother trying to make 4chan rage. I'd much rather come to terms and convince people in a respectable manner, than purposefully try to incite their anger.

I'm not some little kid who feels the need to trash talk on X-box live, lol.
--If it's Halo and we're in the same room, THEN I'll let the trash talk fly. But that's an understood form of camaraderie at this point.

So all i see is fighting, did anyone get the game up on a dl site and anyone working on a crack?

>>4890978
THIS

>>4890966
Haha, Not. A. Single. Copy.
Everyone that bought Kira Kira on sale bought the one with sex.

I had brought up the idea of an all-ages version of Curtain Call since it only has one sex scene anyways, but with sales results like that, I can't really argue when the boss says it's not worth it.

>>4890905
That's the moment she was spacing out because her emotions were being drained, right?

>>4891009
How was it not a single copy when it quickly passed the Higurashi titles for the best selling all ages of the week?

>>4891009
Nah, it was when the bet with Kazushi was still going on. If I remember correctly, it was around the part when she was trying to come up with the love letter.

>>4891009
If all ages won't sell for 15 euros, then it's not ever going to be worth it. Make sure your boss(es) realize that censoring a game would likely lead to a similar result, people don't like getting less than a full product even if it means paying less.

Koihime looking possible next month, or is it going to take a while to edit/debug?

>>4891043
D'oh, you're right. I should have looked at the actually numbers before I spoke. Still, you could count the number sold on your hands.

>>4891044
Just looked. It's from right after she lost the match, and was completely spacing out due to the shock of it all.

>>4891155
If it was just editing and debugging, and not massive corrections...OTL

>>4891187
Huh, looks like I didn't save any screens from the stuff that happened during bet. I really should have, that stuff was awesome.

Kouryuu, have you ever considered advertising in magazines?

>>4891288
Could you please stop saying "huh".

>>4891297
..Why? I mean, it's been said only three times in this thread. And that's counting yours.

>>4891294
Are there honestly any magazines that target otaku and allow for pornographic content in print? Heck, are there still any magazines that target our audience at all which are still in print?

We will have an affiliate program up in the near future though for anyone who wants to advertise on their site and try to earn some credit towards a new game or just some cold hard cash.

>>4891342
>Heck, are there still any magazines that target our audience at all which are still in print?
Well, there's a Finnish otaku magazine that regulary reviews English releases and occasionally does reviews of 18+ products. They have circulation of 40000+ copies.

I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS

>>4891342

Curtain Call! I want information on Curtain Call!

Like songs, how many songs are expected to be in the game?

>>4891297
could you stop saying "please".

>>4891359
could you stop saying "could"

>>4891341
Because its fucking gay and you're fucking retarded.

>>4891364
...Okay then.

>>4891364
Could you please get out of /jp/?

Jesus Christ, wtf happened too this thread

Could you please upload the effin game now?

>>4891383
its over, too many white knights in /jp/ now, the good days are over

>>4891358
I couldn't tell you how many BGMs and such like that there are, but here are the songs you can listen to in the Music Room:

1)Kira Kira ~ All Star~ (The first game's theme sung by all 4 bands: the original Second Literature Club, HAPPY CYCLE MANIA, Star Generation, and SUPER ROCK'N'ROLLERS--It's also the ED theme.)
2) Wing your way (The new game OP sung by the new Second Literature Club)
3) Kimi no Turn (Same band, one of the songs performed in-game)
4) Wishes (Same band, another in-game song)
5) Bad trip dive (SUPER ROCK'N'ROLLERS, the song they develop in the first part of the game)

Other than that, I remember wanting the OST myself by the time I was done working on it X3

Btw, in part 2, you don't see Miru's stage outfit until the very end... but damn...

>>4891342
Say Kouryuu..... Could you tell the higher ups that I and many others would be fully willing to spend 5 more bucks on a product if it was a physical copy with box art?

>>4891415
Who's Miru, the red head in the new D2B or the bassist for Happy Cycle Mania?

>>4891445

Bassist.

>>4891415

Give us a sneak peak of it.

>>4891395
>good days on /jp/
>because it's more favorable to play irresponsible underage tough guys on the internet

Protip: Many eurofags don't have access to a credit card, so you better show some creativity in solving this problem

>>4891440
I second this notion. At least.... make a physical for Deardrops please ;_;

>>4891457

>>4891463
THIS. Or take preorders to sum up the interest for physical copy, anything.

>>4891463
Me and my dear copies also wish for such an occurance.

>>4891500

I just want the songs to be honest.

No hard copies please because I don't like to pay more as subsidies for a bunch of backwards materialist.

>>4891440
>>4891454
I honestly think this may very well be the only time you see it though...

>>4891511
Most companies when they have physical copies give the option for a download only that is cheaper.

>>4891521
This comment makes it almost sound possible. And that's all I need to gain a little hope. It may be too late for KiraKira and Edelweiss, but at this point.... Deardrops is all that's on my mind.

>>4891531

It's on your mind because you are Shouichi.

>>4891521
Gah, I fail.

>>4891440
The idea of a physical copy is being discussed pretty constantly. We know people want them, it's a matter of trying to figure out if and how we can. There are a few ideas going around back and forth right now.

>>4891534
My brother! It's rare to see you so soon. (except you were probably here all along I just never knew until we namefagged up this place.... I feel kinda dirty)

>>4891541
Hot. Saved. And good luck.

>option for a download only that is cheaper
And still more expensive than without physical copies to begin with because of the higher production costs.

>>4891541

Miru path where?

>>4891551

Why did we namefag again?

>>4891569
Part 2. =3

>>4891569
Because it was hard telling who's which Shouichi
>>4891573
Is Murakami supposed to be hooking up with Miru or is he STILL without love?

>>4891576

He is obviously hooking up with her.

He is your bro in Kira Kira, he deserves love too.

>>4891581
That's totally fine with me. Murakami does need love.

But Tonoya better keep his fucking hands off Chie.

>>4891586

Overdrive is going to troll us with that.

I just know it.

>>4891598
Ffffffffffffffffffffffff

But she's supposed to be Shikanosuke's mistress when Kirari spends too much time on the road and he gets lonely.....

>>4891600

Overdrive doesn't like the popular girl. Who is the childhood friend...

Chie fandisk where?

>>4891602
Only in my dreams....

>>4891602
Oh, that reminds me.

Kouryuu, does Overdrive know that English audience's favourite Kira Kira heroine is Chie, and that their favourite ending is Kirari normal?

>>4891602
Oh. Got my guitar back today. Going to build these calluses back up in a bit.

And the crack may just be covered by lifetime warranty by the maker so long as it didn't become void with my dad's death.

Now to the question that only seems to matter to me:

>>4884636

>>4891621
Kirari normal was pretty emotional but I still prefer her true.

I'm a pussy though. I like love and happiness.

>>4891631

I liked "Love to this fucking world" ending.

>>4891627
..... me too

>>4891621
Haha, that I don't know. But yes, Murakami does get the love he deserves. And look on the bright side? Chie is still single, which means you're free to try?

>>4891649
BUT WHAT IS THIS I HAVE BEEN HEARING ABOUT HER HOOKING UP WITH TONYA

In any case, tell this to Overdrive. Also, who do the Japanese prefer?

>>4891649
Yes!
>>4891625
What kind of Guitar do you own, by the way?

>>4891659
No idea which one the Japanese prefer. Honestly, I've been too busy looking at things like this to find out.

>>4891675
..I feel for you, man.

>>4891659
That has always been trolls on /jp/ saying that. Chie is way too up on Shikako's nuts to give up still.

>>4891668
An acoustic by John Greven.
http://www.grevenguitars.com/GrevenGuitars.html
Not sure exactly which model. It looks like my dad ordered some miss-matched customization.

>>4891675
Do you know of any plan to translate Oretsuba?

>>4891696
I think it's the Grand Auditorium though.

>>4891698
As far as I know, we haven't actually heard much from Navel at all lately. I don't know if they're busy on something else or what. That's the main reason we haven't had any news on the sequels to Shuffle either. We'd certainly like to get them, and I can't see Navel licensing them elsewhere either, but I honestly don't know what's going on with that channel at the moment.

Perhaps it also has to do with the things we're trying to get finalized and stabilized as well.

>>4891761
How do they pay you anyway Kouryuu? Is it by lines translated or do you get a percentage of sales?

>>4891908
Flat amount per game, based on the length of game (AKA how much needs translating).

......I'm very glad I don't get paid by the numbers of games sold.

>>4891922
Yeah.... so am I.

Are they in any danger of disbanding or something like that due to lack of sales?

>>4891922
>......I'm very glad I don't get paid by the numbers of games sold.
Since you started working there, has the situation improved at all?

>>4891956
I think it'll get better over time as long as they keep pumping out better quality like KiraKira and Eiden Fantasia. It's just gonna take some time to scrape off the bad past.

>>4891965
>I think it'll get better over time as long as they keep pumping out better quality like KiraKira and Eiden Fantasia. It's just gonna take some time to scrape off the bad past.

It's still fairly common to see someone talking about MangaGamer's low quality translations. You only get to make one first impression, and it is difficult to overcome a bad first impression.

>>4891979
I agree, it's stupid that those people are so stuck on the past though.

Shit... I don't think Edelweiss deserved as much shit as it got for the first translation anyway. Yes it was in need of serious editing for derp mistakes but I read it just fine without problems.

>>4891995
>I agree, it's stupid that those people are so stuck on the past though.

Wasn't referring to here, in many cases it is someone who heard of MangaGamer a while ago, and then brushed them off when they heard their translations were shit (or played Edelweiss when they first launched).

There is a small community of those who pay attention to visual novel news, there is a much larger group of visual novel fans who don't actively seek out games, but just come across something that sounds interesting every so often.

>>4892026
That's.... pretty much how I go about it as well. I see something I like. I add it to my list of "Shit I need to read when I get these kanji memorized". Look up the company and see if they have any other works I'd like to try.

>>4891956
>>4891965
I'd like to think I've managed to yank our image out of the toilet.

Since I've started working with them and pushing for the increase in quality that needed to be made, I feel like our products have managed to improve. It's just hard to catch all the ones that were in the pipelines to begin with before I started working there.

I know our Editor working on the Higurashi series has been putting a lot more effort in, which is part of why that hasn't been released one-per-month like the boss had originally hoped to do. On that note, Tsumihoroboshi was actually translated by a different person than the group who did the question arcs and some of our other games. Admittedly, I only glanced at the scripts, but I felt she did a much better job than the Higurashi scripts I'd seen you guys posting.

>>4892139
I'm finally starting to get an idea of which of our translators were and weren't doing what needed to be done, so I expect there will be difference once I'm done what I'm dealing with now.

Unfortunately, no, our sales don't seem to have reflected this at all. Soul Link's sales figures are still sitting down there with the sex romps despite the effort put into it and the commotion that surrounded it.

Contrarily, Shuffle, one I had nothing to do with, is still our best seller, with nearly twice as many as the others despite the sale. Though, I admittedly haven't seen the sales figures for the bundles and my latest two games yet.

I'm hoping the re-translation of Edelweiss will demonstrate the effect of a quality boost to the boss.

We also have a new editor who will be trying to touch up the sex romps that are translated, but not released yet.

So yeah, there are actually a lot of internal changes being made to try and improve the games for everyone. That's part of why I've become more sensitive to the whole piracy issue myself. It sometimes feel like the efforts I'm making to try and make people want these games is just going to waste.

We're not going anywhere anytime soon, but it is rough, and I do wish the numbers reflected our efforts better.

>>4892139
The higurashi translations have always been fine, the only annoyances I've had is with the music issues (which you either can't deal with or can't deal with without jacking up the price even higher), and typos (which, while annoying and not indicative of professionalism, don't ruin the experience). The typos were gone in meakashi, so Im hoping that's true of Tsumihoroboshi as well.

Honestly, my only real complaint is the price.

OK, all of you faggots get out of the thread unless you're gonna upload the game.

>>4892273

>>4892273

>>4892273
>>4892301
>>4892315
I WANT MY FREE GAME RIGHT NOW
I WAITED AND I DESERVE IT SO GIVE IT TO ME RIGHT NOW

>>4892273

Price is absurd. Really 19 euro for one episode of higurashi?
Reasons why I dont even consider buying it anymore
-price - questions arcs were overpriced, but anwer arcs are absurdly expensive. You absolutely have to cut the price someway.
-digital download only - if I want to buy something I like I want it to have in my collection, on shelf, next to my anime figurines etc. No digital download can satysfy the feeling of having the original box. I am more tempted to buy original japanese novels just to be able to have them on the shelf.
- cutted content - one example that forced me to use the music patch - first scene with Rena in first arc should have different music than the scene before - your release have the same BGM in both scenes. And when the scenes changes it suddenly stops playing the BGM and starts it immediately again. After that I used the BGM patch so I dont know if its only place where this happen and I wont ever try to find out.

I just hope the price isnt that high because of some security software that is absolutely pointless thanks to the pirates that can crack it up during few hours.

And last thing - look at how Higurashi looks. Its not very appealing. Only people who already knows what its about and why is it worth reading would consider buying it. Without demo, movie, or anything else people who dont know anything about it woudnt continue reading past the price.

I was going t upload the copy I bought until I saw how utterly annoying every single one of you people are. So I'll just enjoy my legaklly purchased game and let you all rot.

>>4892273
>>4892301
>>4892315
>>4892385
>>4892386
I'm so enraged by this lack of free gamez, that my period came

>>4892393
No, you weren't going to do it and we all know it

>>4892400
Periods don't work like that.

>>4892413
Imagine how angry I am, then

>>4892393
Don't fool with us, if you were gonna do it, you'd have done it by now.
Though it's always appreciated, also the only way to get some fixes and pathes

>>4892426
You're angry that you can't get a period?

>>4892434
Yes! I mean, no! Oh forget about it, I want my game, and I know you too.

considering how all I do in life is wait for VN translations a few more hours wont hurt

...was what I thought a few hours ago. Considering it's almost 2 in the morning here and no game in sight (let alone crack), I guess I'll leave F5 be for a while. Thank future uploader on my behalf, please.

How does this compare to Umineko?
I really liked Umineko, but I heard this isn't anything like it.

>>4892664
They're very different. But I think I like Higu more.

>>4892144
>Contrarily, Shuffle, one I had nothing to do with, is still our best seller, with nearly twice as many as the others despite the sale. Though, I admittedly haven't seen the sales figures for the bundles and my latest two games yet.

There are a number of likely reasons for that.

Shuffle is very popular in the west thanks to a very popular anime. Soul Link, not so much, it's anime has barely been heard of, and those who have watched it aren't eager to play the game. Also Shuffle had a tons of publicity, and came out not too long after AX, and was a title people would get excited about. Not too many people have heard of Soul Link in comparison, and even if they had it's not a title they get excited about.

>>4892664
Truly different, but the pacing in Higurashi is really off, the first half of the chapter can drag a lot from chapter 2 onwards. It's really atmospheric and creepy, so it's really good in the horror/supernatural regard, don't even try to see it as a mystery.

>>4892759
Like Umineko doesn't have shit pacing too.

Chapter 3 was the only one that had good pacing. So far in Higurashi, the only one with good pacing is Chapter 1, so I'd say they're even on that front.

>>4892717
>>4892759
Horror is fine too, I guess I'll get the first bundle then.

>>4891696

They all look nice.

>>4892791
I'm talking here about HALF the novel, you know.
Ep1 was obligatory, introducing the cast and all, ep2 just had the sappy romance scenes, apart from taht, it was pretty good in pacing, ep4 just frags and I didn't find anything bad about the ep5 (ep6 is another story, magical battles dragged on a lot).

>>4892144
>I'm finally starting to get an idea of which of our translators were and weren't doing what needed to be done, so I expect there will be difference once I'm done what I'm dealing with now.

Glad to hear

>Unfortunately, no, our sales don't seem to have reflected this at all. Soul Link's sales figures are still sitting down there with the sex romps despite the effort put into it and the commotion that surrounded it.

Soul Link has the issue that it is obscure in the English speaking market, and honestly it's not as good as KiraKira which has been becoming more popular as time has gone on thanks to word of mouth, Soul Link is "just another game" (no offense intended, as I know you liked it enough to have been working on a fan translation of it).

>Contrarily, Shuffle, one I had nothing to do with, is still our best seller, with nearly twice as many as the others despite the sale. Though, I admittedly haven't seen the sales figures for the bundles and my latest two games yet.

The Shuffle franchise is among the most popular in the western fan base based on a visual novel, probably only behind Key and Type Moon stuff. Also, despite the fact that you did not work on it, Shuffle probably had the best quality from MangaGamer besides Soul Link onward, there were a couple errors, but nothing serious, and seemed to be professionally done.

>I'm hoping the re-translation of Edelweiss will demonstrate the effect of a quality boost to the boss.

Don't expect a massive jump in Edelweiss sales when you finish retranslating it, it's a couple years old and the new translation, while it will surely get some people to try it out especially those who enjoyed KiraKira (and the upcoming fandisc). This isn't to say that it's worthless, as it gives a great image especially to those who judge MangaGamer based on Edelweiss, however while it will lead to a boast of sales it is unlikely to cause tons of sales.

>>4893119
>We also have a new editor who will be trying to touch up the sex romps that are translated, but not released yet.

Cool

>So yeah, there are actually a lot of internal changes being made to try and improve the games for everyone. That's part of why I've become more sensitive to the whole piracy issue myself. It sometimes feel like the efforts I'm making to try and make people want these games is just going to waste.

Piracy is a tough issue and while one can try to minimize it, it is impossible to eliminate it. The fact that you guys do not offer physical copies, and instead offer something that is the exact same as what the pirates get (plus DRM), does not do any favors towards limiting piracy. I do by the titles from MangaGamer that I enjoy, however many people won't.

>We're not going anywhere anytime soon, but it is rough, and I do wish the numbers reflected our efforts better.


If you guys had kept up the Edelweiss level translations, you would have been out of business within a year. While it may be true that one doesn't see a 1:1 correlation between effort and sales, the quality builds up a brand name. If you release shit, people will buy once and not buy again in the future. However this is not something that will be noticed any single release.


Thank you for taking the time to post here, it has been awesome getting your thoughts on stuff.

>
Piracy is a tough issue and while one can try to minimize it, it is impossible to eliminate it. The fact that you guys do not offer physical copies, and instead offer something that is the exact same as what the pirates get (plus DRM), does not do any favors towards limiting piracy. I do by the titles from MangaGamer that I enjoy, however many people won't.

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

You are *never* going to persuade me to buy something with DRM when I could just pirate it, get all the same fucking things I would through buying it, AND avoid giving my computer digital aids on top of that

You should watch this video. It will explain my position a lot more aptly than I really wish to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLC_zZ5fqFk

Skip to the part where he starts talking about piracy

>You are *never* going to persuade me to buy something with DRM when I could just pirate it, get all the same fucking things I would through buying it, AND avoid giving my computer digital aids on top of that

I have a hard time believing this is true for many people whenever I see the success of Steam.

>Thank you for taking the time to post here, it has been awesome getting your thoughts on stuff.

You're quite welcome. I hope we can have your continued support in the future.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a date with a little girl on a wall I really must attend to.

>I have a hard time believing this is true for many people whenever I see the success of Steam.

I own a physical copy of every Steam game I have. Bonus digital content like HL2:LC and Peggle Extreme are the obvious exceptions, but everything else... Anyway, point is that I have never bought any digital content from Steam, despite having 15 games registered to it. There will always be a large group of people who prefer having physical copies of things and will pirate whatever isn't available in that format.

P.S. Price point aside, I would have considered buying Higurashi if it had physical copies. As things stand, I'd rather show my support for the series by importing the cheaper JP copies and waiting for the inevitable script patches.

>>4893355

>I have a hard time believing this is true for many people whenever I see the success of Steam.

You're just proving that you didn't bother watching the video I linked. The reason Steam is successful is BECAUSE it isn't just some shitty DRM scheme. It provides GOOD SERVICE. It gives you convenience, it gives you community, and it gives you fairly cheap prices. Can your company claim the same thing?

Watch the damn video. You aren't going to do well if you insist on giving your customers NEGATIVE service in return for giving you their money

>paying for shitty hentai games

Still no game?

>>4893847
Sudden and unexpected moralfag rush, everyone now is ultra legal.

>>4893887
It only takes one person. One can ignore the moralfags if they want. I wouldn't really mind if no-one uploaded it as I have no interest in playing the game anytime soon, but I'm curious if MG has such a loyal fanbase.

I think this is the first high profile MangaGamer title to go without a crack/upload for 24 hours.

It's much harder to upload the game and think of yourself as being guilt free when one of the employees is in the same thread talking about how much it hurts them.

>>4894012

And here I thought /jp/ was filled with terrible people.

Beh, I'd really like to buy them, at least to show my support... But I don't live at the USA or in Europe (south americanfag here), so getting € is kinda hard for me, and I don't have my own credit card, meaning that I can't buy them myself anyway... So whatever, I just have to pirate it until I can buy them... someday

>>4894012
That was their strategy, I betcha.

This thread is now about the Mangagamer mascot.

>>4892664
Very different, but much better.

At the end, I personally don't care if people pirate the game as long they get to enjoy Higurashi... but I just don't think its fair for the people who bought it and whose life depends on the business... That's has been on my mind ever since fansubs became big on the internet, but it's not like I can do anything about it. =P

>>2. After that "What do you us to release" thing, have you been in talks with any new companies that people asked for?

Results may only come after a while since we can only release so much games at a time, but I did forward the voices to the higher ups. And the strong demand for a package release too.

i guess ill just have too wait for the moralfags to go away to get the game, hopefully it will be out for the weekend>>4893847

Since there are MangaGamer devs in here, just one quick thing about packages.

While there is good reason to package old games (especially Shuffle), the first trial likely should be with some big new title (for example, if you guys get that company whose bread and jam you wouldn't want to eat). For the same reason that a new translation of Edelweiss won't cause a huge amount of sales. Shuffle has been out for more than half a year, and while it would likely sell nice with the offer of a box, people aren't going to get excited for it compared to something new because it has been out for quite some time. Something new on the other hand, a box will help convince people who see this new product to buy it instead of passing over it and never thinking about it again.

>>4893922
Its because of the name change. everyone who was on /jp/ died or got the fuck out and only a few stayed, we are no longer the /jp/ we once were. /jp/- moralfags

>>4894925
Oh relax... nothing has changed. So what, you'll get your free game sometime later?

>>4894979

>>>4892385

someone delete this thread, burn it down

>>4893922
We just haven't been watching the release date this time.

In all likelihood Kaibrid will work for this too --- minor changes notwithstanding.

>>4895034
how long will it take?

>>4895034
I love you

>>4895034
ty soldier, may the golden gods bless you

>>4895034
Thank you sir, for being you.

>>4895043
You cannot ask this question until someone uploads the game.

I'm not a moralfag per say, I do occasionally pirate if I want to know the quality of something. If I approve after a couple weeks, I buy it, if not it gets deleted. Personally though, I can see where they are coming from as probably 10% or less of the VN community in the US actually ever purchases a legal copy.

>>4895043
Waiting for our uploader to deliver. After that, maybe 6 hours.

>>4895085
alright, ill wait too the ends of the world, you are what /jp/ once was

>>4895085
maybe they'll deliver if you make a new thread announcing your working on editorashi2.0

>>4895107
Ah yes. Good times.

fuckkk should i just buy this and upload it

>>4895350
Please do

someone mentioned there was a patch to fix Meakashi-hens annoying 5 second cicada loop to a 5 minute one?

anyone ahve a link to it? its not up on the wiki

>>4895771
I think that might be part of the music patch for Meakashi, but I could be wrong.

try the link and tell me if it's different
http://www.mediafire.com/?mun30moqozv

>>4895806
yup, that worked, thanks!

Anyone know if ep6 has ep 5 with it?

>>4896155
It doesn't.

Thank Kouryuu for hijacking this thread to make "meet the devs" out of it. It takes balls to prove that you're chaotic evil and upload the game being fully aware that you make certain someone's 8 little kids to die of starvation by doing this and, unfortunately, /jp/ these days has only hearts. Yay, I guess..?

...I bet he's giggling somewhere nearby as he walks to ask his boss for promotion because of his anti-piracy achievements.

bumpity bump bump

I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS
I'm not paying for a MangaGamer release until they LEARN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ADJECTIVES AND ADVERBS

>>4897204
Told ya

>>4897649
>>4897649
>>4897649

>>4897649
You wouldn't pay even if their translation was pristine, faggot.
Stop acting like you would.

COULD IT BE THAT SOMEONE UPLOADED MY FREE GAMEZ ALREADY?

i paid for kirakira, but i'd like the cd boxes...

>>4897682
Nope, anon failed us this time. Shame on you, /jp/.

>>4897692
/jp/ here. My deepest apologies...

>>4897685
We will never get boxes because hurr durr MG games are only worth pirating

>>4897679
Name calling on the internet! Sure are alot of tough around here...

>>4897692
Poor Cudder, the crack and various patches could already be done.

So nobody even realized that all the moralfagging in here were from the devs/translators themselves?

>>4897795
That still doesn't explains the lack of FREE GAMEZ

>>4897807
Because nobody here wanted to shell out a few bucks for this arc? I'm betting if this were koihime or some other game people wanted badly, we'd already see it...

>>4897807
Someone said that he would upload the game if no one had done it in a few hours, about 9 hours ago.

>>4897811
Some people have actually bought it.

>>4897811
I bought it.

>>4897825
>>4897828
Buyfag mind. Thank you for your good job in supporting MangaGamer!
Hope you enjoy your (heavily bloated) DRM

>>4897838
I wasn't saying I had bought it, just stating a fact.

>>4897838
>Hope you enjoy your (heavily bloated) DRM
I'll download the crack when it's released. I'll just be enjoying Higurashi without DRM.

The translation is decent, but it's better than no translation at all. I'm glad I bought it.

>>4897755
Hey there ya'll, I'm a doujin writer and I pose like a lady for the photos with my dead ex-boyfriend, and I still don't see here in /jp/ a pirated copy of one of my most recently translated and released works, which I want to check out.

wtf it hasn't been cracked yet , wtf is going on

>>4898518
It's not cracked since it's not uploaded. You can't crack what you don't have access to.

dayumn, this lack of uploaded game is actually making me think that I should buy the game. I already played through 1-5, so I can't just stop here.. maybe this was their plan all along

someone upload the game

we are waiting for the upload.

I dont know why is taking so long

moshi moshi, is it up yet?

>>4899098
Go buy it and upload it yourself.

herp pirates have to actually pay derp for a product, so f u n r, I tell you, I'm itching all over the place

Im gonna watch something else til its finally up.

>>4899171
>implying it will ever get uploaded

yes it will be uploaded, youre not scaring anyone into buying, get of me money.

now to buy some pizza, bye.

its "get off my money", I bet you wanna work for them.

so any progress

It's been uploaded

>>4899662
where?

>>4897815
that was me. i went to sleep but ill do it right now if >>4899662 is a troll however my internet connection sucks so it could be another hour

>>4899667
http://www.mangagamer.com/allages/Titles/Details/F661F06B-9BD8-49DB-BD54-2C8E5F232D36/higurashi-when
-they-cry-kai-tsumihoroboshi

>>4899675
wow, I found you.
Don't worry, shitty connections suck, an expert here.

>>4899679
u so funny

Fucking megaupload is being shit, hold on

8 minutes, assuming verification doesn't fail again, sorry

may Hanyuu bless your upload.

>>4899715
>>4899712
wait what? are you uploading it? because I was just about to confirm order

>>4899715
Don't worry, you are fantastic.

So are we going to get a real crack this time and not piggyback on the very first crack?

>>4899748
I'm not too hopeful about that.

>>4899715
seems we have a bro here, thank you good sir

>>4899726
Buy it anyway, my u/l just dropped by 400kb/s for some reason, MU is so gay

>>4899748
Thyey said doing the first crack would be easier, they could do it in about 6 hours, so, you know, after that doing teh graphic/some music fix patch should take relatively short (music specially, if it's just like the last time).

>>4899772
by first I meant like the last one

are any of the crackers on at the moment?

>>4899771
hang in there

>>4899843
racism

>>4899772
>they
You mean Cuddler. He does a piggyback method off the very first crack to 'crack' it. I was just hoping we would get something not so messy. Hence, a real crack.
Anonymous from Spain does the music patch and from the Meakashi the music wasn't altered iirc so I would assume the same for this.
Then Gogeta(or he might just do it under Anonymous like the first one) does the sprite patch, which I don't really care for.

>>4899875
>Anonymous from Spain does the music patch and from the Meakashi the music wasn't altered iirc so I would assume the same for this.

No, Meakashi has music missing even after the music patch for it.

>>4899771
this was a troll wasnt it? i am going to go ahead and buy it

>>4899890
What exactly is missing? The meakashi music patch was altered 3 times for some of the missing tracks. I've played it and it seems find to me.The read me said after V2 that it should be indistiguishable from the original so I don't get what the problem with the patch is.

>>4899890
Really?

I thought it was just minor stuff. Oh well. Maybe this time I'll just wait for the music patches first before reading through it.

so is the uploader here?

>>4899987
its just going to take a while for me to upload

>>4899953
>>4899982

Several tracks from Kai are missing in the music patch. They were replaced by other tracks, sometimes music from 1-4.

A couple of the tracks are really good ones, too, and the artists of those ones have some really pivotal music in Tsumihoroboshi and Minagoroshi, IIRC.

>>4899987
5 minutes left, be patient.

>>4899994
Sorry, no problems, it's just in case, trolls can make elaborate plans to have fun.

Here faggots:
http://rapidshare.com/files/376721545/higurashi_kai_tsumihoroboshi.zip.html

>>4900012
rapidshit sucks. I'll wait for the MU version. I'm patient.

>>4900012
48 hours, 46 minutes until being uploaded.

Probably a new record.

bump limit hit, incredible in /jp/ for a non-touhou thread.
I'll start a new one if everyone agrees.

>>4900012
Thank you. This isn't cracked right?

>>4900012
Well, it's not the same size as Meakashi, I guess that's a start.

>>4900040
There are already two other threads. Just bump one of those ones.

>>4900042
No.

>>4900040
ok, if you guys want to migrate thread
here >>4900072

To sum up, it was a troll. /jp/'s still looking for legit release.