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>> No.473160

>It’s all-ages because they did not want to change the original story just for ero scenes

Nasu has been replaced with a clone.

>> No.473163

>>471448

>> No.473164

Also...

Tsukihime
- All the art will be redrawn from the ground up again.
- Release will be after Mahou tsukai no yoru
- Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

>> No.473166

In after April 1st.

>> No.473168

>>473148
So, what will be the difference, apart from apparently new,shining art and CGs?

Voices?
Sub-routes?
More bad ends, like being impaled by an antler?

>> No.473184

>>471448

>> No.473180

>>473160
LOL, basically Nasu didn't want to work more, enjoy your rehash.

>> No.473207

>>473164
>- Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

WHO IS THIS?!

>> No.473215

I call bullshit.

- It’s all-ages because they did not want to change the original story just for ero scenes

The original story had ero scenes that were essential to the plot. You could remove the CGs and skip it, but removing any mention of sex whatsoever makes it far too removed from the original.

>> No.473220

>>473180
Oh, I will. I will indeed.

>> No.473223

>>473215
screw it ero or no ero I will still be fapping to this game.

>> No.473225

>>473215
Realta Nulta was all-ages and included the sex, but they.. Summarised it.

>> No.473226

>>473215
That refers to Mahou tsukai no yoru, you idiot.

>> No.473231

>>473215
He was talking about the Aoko game, not Tsukihime remake.

>> No.473237

>>473215
To repeat what the other people said.

the no-ero scenes thing is about Mahou Tsukai no yoru

>> No.473243

>>473237
so wait, the tsukihime remake will have Satchin ero ero?

DO FUCKING WANT.

>> No.473247

>>473243
They are still deciding on that. Read the fucking link in OP.

>> No.473252
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473252

>>473243

>> No.473253

>>473243

It hasn't been decided whether or not it'll have ero or not or have voices or not.

I'd prefer voices + non-ero over no voices + ero, personally.

>> No.473267

>>473253
I myself prefer Ero w/ no voices if I had to. They can always release an 'all-ages' version later for the ps2 w/ voice and someone will rip the voice from it. That said, if it's voiced I'd like the cast of MBAC, Hitomi as Akiha = pure sex.

>> No.473268

Mahou Tsukai no yoru + Tsukihime VS Rewrite VS the new âge game(hopefully)
2009 is going to be awesome.

>> No.473277

What I wanted:

1. Fate/zero, UBW, HF animated.
2. Tsukihime 2.
3. Type-moon yuri game.

Instead we got these nonsense.

>> No.473278

>>473277
>What I wanted: A pony

fixed.

>> No.473281

>>473268
more like 2011 for us that don't speak moon.

>> No.473282

ero scenes are a must imo. I'm fine with no voices for pc and then ripping in the ps2 ones later.

>> No.473300
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>- Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

>> No.473309

I dont know why people are bitching that these are remakes.

How many of you managed to get your hands on the Aoko novel? Thats right, none, since it was fucking exclusive to Nasu's closest friends, and besides it wasnt exactly totally finished. The game will be a polished version of the novel.

Remake of Tsukihime is expected. I mean, wtf, we are talking about a sacchin route here, a better engine, nicely done CGs, voice work...i dont see whats to complain.

>> No.473325

>>473309
Give them Tsukhime 2 or an actually new game and the fans will be happy.

>> No.473326

>>473309
Because at this rate the only games produced by Type-moon will be from Nasu's high school fantasies, not new ideas.

>> No.473338

>>473326
Okay, so suddenly you buy a book that was written ten years ago but never published until last year, does that make it bad in your opinion, knowing you've never read it ?

>> No.473354

>>473338

It's stale.

>> No.473360

Remakes have no other purpose than cashing money with old products.
And that is lame

>> No.473361

>>473354
It's like new, how would it be stale?
Unless you like your book with hundreds of present time references like how the character turns his iPhone on to notice that it's shit, the time it was written doesn't really matter, does it ?

>> No.473364
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473364

It's your time now, Sacchin.

>> No.473368

>>473361
I am not the person you are quoting to but
>new
What the hell man.
It is the same story all over again. Sure, there is Sacchin story, but that is not enough to justify the product as "new".
Remakes are not new, just refreshed with added content.

>> No.473370

>>473354
Just like most great literary works are stale because they were written centuries ago, m i rite?

>> No.473371

>>473360

It's worth it for the Sacchin route, and hopefully more consistent storyline with the current nasuverse.

And it's not like you're paying for it anyways right?

>> No.473374

>>473370
Yes.

>> No.473375

>>473368
Protip; We are not talking about the Tsukihime remake

>> No.473377

>>473375
Well fuck me then.
WELL I JUST GOT THIS FEELING YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT

>> No.473378

>>473368
In his post, the one I quoted said that we're getting works that Nasu thought of a long while ago, he never said if he was talking about the remakes or the fact that these works were all old projects.
I went on the base that he was talking about old projects such as Aoko's novel.

>> No.473382

Sequel would be better, but I'm happy with a sacchin route and new cgs, extra scenes,etc.

Not like anyone here is gonna actually pay for it so you got no right to bitch.

>> No.473387

>>473371
I hope he won't touch the script of Tsukihime too much, honestly the storytelling in FSN was pretty mediocre.

>> No.473391

>>473382
Hell yeah we can bitch
Like hell I am gonna shut up if it turns out to be crap

>> No.473401

They promised us Tsukihime remake
We got it
Win all arond

>> No.473404

>>473371
I don't want them to change stuff just to suit the faggots who argue over powerlevels. I don't care if they take place in the same universe, they are seperate stories.

>> No.473411

Looks like everybody is ignoring TYPE-MOON's new ADV. It actually seems pretty interesting (and NEW, for all you bitching idiots)

>> No.473413

>>473382
Since a proper sequel would pretty much demand to follow the events of a route of the game, the prospect suddenly becomes very limited ,unless we adopt a 'Shiki is fine and happy with all the girls', like in Melty Blood and kagetsu Tohya.

A sequel to each route would make the game weird.


A re-make with a few extra events, more consistent writing (about the events in-game that happen in each route) and some shiny new art and CG that a commercial game should have will be good enough.

New route or voices?
Even better.

>> No.473414

why no arihiko route

>> No.473417

>>473411
Next to nothing known about it, also it's not written by Nasu anyway.

>> No.473420

Tsukihime 2 is slated to follow Satsujinki and Arcueid's true end anyway, which is fine too.

>> No.473422
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>>473382
"Tsukihime 2" == Melty Blood
amirite?
(since MB's story follow Tsukihime's)

>> No.473425

>>473422
No, it follows a blend of most routes without taking in account any conclusions and disregarding various events.

>> No.473426

>>473414
Arihiko's sister would be better.

>> No.473427
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473427

FUCK YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

>> No.473432

>>473425
You're taling about the arcade mode's story (with Sacchin being alive AND transform into a vampire)?
Because in the story mode (with Sion as the main heroine) I don't see any incoherence.

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473434

>Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

AHAHAHAHAHA... USO DA!

>> No.473435

Didnt Nasu say MB = Sacchin's true end?

>> No.473436

>>473435
Good End, not True.

>> No.473437

>>473435
Nobody knows what Nasu has said

>> No.473438
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473438

Miyako sidestory plz

>> No.473443

>>473438
Agreed. Needs moar imouto no. 2

>> No.473445

>>473443
She will have sexual intercourse with vampire watermelons.

>> No.473449

>>473445
No, Miyako, you are the watermelons.

>> No.473454

>>473449
It's masturbation then.

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>> No.473479
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473479

>Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

Isn't it great, Sacchin?

>> No.473482

You what I want to read in the Sacchin route?
What it is like to kill a living person for the first time for her.
I want to see her freak out

>> No.473483

>>473164
>All the art will be redrawn from the ground up again.

Excellent.

>Release will be after Mahou tsukai no yoru

No matter, I would have to wait for the translation anyways.

>Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

DO NOT WANT. Seriously, the meme was funny but who gives a shit about a generic teen girl who falls in love with the unsociable protagonist for no reason.

>> No.473496

>>473414

Why no Roa route?

>> No.473500

>>473483
>DO NOT WANT. Seriously, the meme was funny but who gives a shit about a generic teen girl who falls in love with the unsociable protagonist for no reason.

She`s attracted to his killer aura. Read moar.

>> No.473501

>>473496
Mansex with one's mind. DO NOT WANT

>> No.473503

>>473483
> falls in love
> for no reason.

You need reasons to fall in love?

>> No.473504

>>473483
>DO NOT WANT. Seriously, the meme was funny but who gives a shit about a generic teen girl who falls in love with the unsociable protagonist for no reason.

Seconded. And the meme was only funny to begin with because Sacchin HAD no path; Giving her one takes away 99% of the appeal she has.

That said, I'm pretty sure Nasu will just rickroll everyone again, he's trolled people with Sacchin before.

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>>473483
We don't care about that, we care about her being by Roa (not SHIKI,Roa) and becomes a vampire.

Shiki tags along with her to keep his promise and gives her his blood to sustain her.

Shiki kills Roa whose soul is directly absorbed by Sacchin, and now Arcueid is hunting her.
Shiki must now protect Yumizuka, as well as keep running from Akiha who looks for him.

Conclusion: Dunno.

>> No.473507

>DO NOT WANT. Seriously, the meme was funny but who gives a shit about a generic teen girl who falls in love with the unsociable protagonist for no reason.

There is a reason. Btw, I think she'll be transformed into a vampire. And the "true ending" will still be tragic.

>> No.473511

>>473504
But Ciel has curry butt. Sacchin could have a new nickname, right? ;_;

>> No.473514

Wait, wait.

There's going to be a Sacchin route?

>> No.473518

>>473483

She is a vampire in Melty Blood, which is canon, so not your average teen girl.

>> No.473521

>>473506
Shiki vs. Arcueid...

SORT OF WANT

>> No.473525

>>473518
Melty Blood is not canon(the arcade mode at least).

In the Tsukihime far-side routes she doesn't turn in a vampire, but a demon like SHIKI and gets killed.
In the Near-side routes, typical schoolgirl.

So, what is left is a proper vampire route.

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>>473521

>> No.473534

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtFjKjooR1o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xj6-Q-brE0

>> No.473543

>>473281
>>3011
*fixed

>> No.473547

>>473360
There are fucking thousands of remakes, a remake to a doujin VN which sucked in every way except the story is a sane thing to do, too bad not 4+ years ago

>> No.473548

>>473525

Melty Blood is canon.....

to Satsuki's Normal end

>> No.473553

>>473525
Wrong. She turns into a Vampire in the Far Side routes.

What affects her isn't SHIKI's Tohno blood, but rather the spiritual corruption that Roa causes, which makes SHIKI capable of infecting others with vampirism.

She's an actual vampire.

>> No.473554

>>473548
Har har dee ho.

>> No.473557

>>473554
Type-Moon agreed. don't bother them about it.

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>>473500
>She`s attracted to his killer aura.

If you don't think that's fucking stupid, I feel sorry for you.

>>473518
>She is a vampire in Melty Blood, which is canon, so not your average teen girl.

So she's a teen vampire. The hottest chick in the school who fell in love with unsociable nerdy guy, who has an disabling illness and who has had the same glasses since he was a kid, and became a vampire against all odds faster than it should be possible. That kind of a teen vampire. That's just as dumb shit.

And since when has Melty Blood become canon. It wasn't more than year ago when everyone agreed it wasn't canon.

>> No.473562

>>473553
Shiki, without taking of his glasses, manages to slice her twice, in a bad way so that much blood runs out.

With proper vampires, hitting them with normal weapons, the wound regenerates so fast (or as Arc put it, the world corrects the wound), it's as if they were not affected at all.

SHIKI is very much like a vampire (can share his gift, cannot die unless you completely destroy him, since he can cure fatal wounds etc), but he is not one.

>> No.473567

She still disappears in Arc/Ciel routes doesn't she?

>> No.473569
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>>473547
>a remake to a doujin VN which sucked in every way except the story is a sane thing to do
>a doujin VN which sucked in every way except the story

>> No.473574

Why is /jp/ not over-flowing with Sacchin threads right now?

This is the best news ever.

>> No.473578

>>473559
>And since when has Melty Blood become canon. It wasn't more than year ago when everyone agreed it wasn't canon.

Since the influx of newbs that desperately wish their SACCHIN ;_; memes would become true. Fucking hell, canon soesn't mena a thing anyway, unless you're a bad fanfiction writer that substitutes supposed authenticity for skill. Most stories Nasu wrote (KT, H/ha) aren't canon, and that's not even considering the gigantic canon problems a multipath VN raises automatically.

>> No.473580

>>473559
So we have a vampire princess who... hunts vampires.
A senpai who harbors a secret: she is an agent of the church and... HUNTS VAMPIRES.
A younger sister whose duty as head of the family is to make sure their crazy demon bloodline doesn't get out of hand.
A maid with a twin! Childhood friend!
The other twin maid! Crazy!

All of them harbor feelings for our sickly, glasses-wearing protagonist.

u were saying ???

>> No.473582

>>473578
...
I love you man.

>> No.473591

>>473580
Oversimplifying?
Cool.

Lord of the Rings.
Midgets sets out to throw an evil ring in a fire, eventually succeeds, while losing a finger.
Oh, and one of his companions becomes a king.

>> No.473594

>>473578
Everything and nothing is canon in Nasuverse, if you don't want a Sacchin route, just don't play the game, I never gave a shit about the meme and still want her route.

>> No.473597

>>473547
>There are fucking thousands of remakes, a remake to a doujin VN which sucked in every way except the story is a sane thing to do, too bad not 4+ years ago

I agree, but...

>which sucked in every way except the story

I disagree. The soundtrack was quite good, at least the Tsukibako one. Sure, it was repetitive but it didn't really bother me although the worst tracks were those that were mostly repeated. Tracks 5, 7, 8, 9, 10 were good.

>> No.473598

>>473591
OH YEAH ?
Star Wars : Kid in desert planet discovers that his father oppresses the galaxy and joins a rebellion to oppose him.

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>>473574
You're right!

This is now a Sacchin thread.

>> No.473600

>>473591
LotR sucked anyway.

I'll admit in Kohaku's case it's oversimplifying, but for the rest it's about the same as the teenage vampire bit.

>> No.473602

>>473594
Hey, I'm always interested in more good writing, and as said, don't give a shit about canon. The thing is just, what little is known about the Sacchin route is FACEPALMINGLY STUPID.

>> No.473604

>>473600
Ok, you are an idiot.

>> No.473606
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473606

Victoly for Sacchin!

>> No.473607

>>473600
A Song of Ice and Fire: lol, politics

>> No.473609

>>473591
Pio komma psiphises peri si?

>> No.473611

>>473602
It just sounded like you were mindlessly bashing it.
It's not out yet, we don't know at all how it will turn.
Let's just wait, it's not like we'll be getting it anytime soon.

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>LotR sucked anyway

>> No.473622

>>473609
Οχι ΠΑΣΟΚ,ΝΔ,ΚΚΕ ή ΛΑΟΣ.

>> No.473624

I don't give a shit about canon or melty blood or contradictions with fate powerlevels or any of that shit. If the Satsuki route is well written and as good as the other routes, that's all that matters to me.

>> No.473630

>>473624
It's a Near Side route. Lol, vampires and powerlevels.

>> No.473633

>>473624
I love you too.

>> No.473635

>>473607

I'm hating you so much right now.

>> No.473647
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473647

Sacchin will be popular now, oh yes she will

>> No.473651

>>473580
>So we have a vampire princess who... hunts vampires.

Doesn't sound THAT bad.

>A senpai who harbors a secret: she is an agent of the church and... HUNTS VAMPIRES.

Would be fucking stupid, if she would actually be just another student. I hope Nasu doesn't sacchinize Ciel.

>A younger sister whose duty as head of the family is to make sure their crazy demon bloodline doesn't get out of hand.

Sounds interesting.

>A maid with a twin! Childhood friend!

>> No.473655

>>473622
Liakopoulos kai Xrisi Augi? :D

>> No.473658
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FUCK YES! Official pic! Sacchin main heroine!

>> No.473663

>>473630
No it's not, I believe the reason the sacchin route got removed in the first place is that it didn't fit in with either the near side or far side. It was it's own thing.

>> No.473668

>>473658
Let's cut out the Sacchin mania for a while. As far as I can see, they just took Takeuchi's old lineart and colored it Fate-style. Which is fine; his drawing didn't get much better in the meantime anyway. I just hope they add more expressions, since Tsukihime's sprite library is awfully limited compared to F/sn's, and I also hope they finally made decent backgrounds.

>> No.473670
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473670

Sacchin's true ending?
Killed by the Church's executioner,
or killed by the the head of thono's household,
or killed by the shinso princess, or killed by Shiki.

Sacchin will always end up being a poor lil' girl.

>> No.473672

>>473668
Actually, I prefered TH's backgrounds to Fate's, but that's just me, I guess.

>> No.473676

>>473668
I just hope they add more clothes for Arcueid.

>> No.473678

>>473668
>I just hope they add more expressions

More funny faces! That's exactly what I want to my dreamlike story of mystery, blood, moon and romance.

>> No.473693

>>473678
Yeah, because Fate's 3000+ sprites are clearly only there for the lulz, and Tsukihime's 150 sprites cover the exact same range. Idiot.

>> No.473702

WRITE TSUKIHIME 2 INSTEAD! NASU! YOU BASTARD WRITE UNTIL YOUR FINGERS BLEED!

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more finger licking hisui cgs? DO WANT

>> No.473712

>>473702
>>473702
>>473702
>>473702
>>473702
>>473702
>>473702
>>473702

>> No.473715

Well I am happy as long as Tsukihime stays as serious as it is.
No HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY, only despair.

>> No.473728

>>473702
pretty hard to do for reasons listed earlier, and honestly I think it wouldn't live up to expectations. I think it would be better after this remake is done to make something new, no more fsn and tsukihime milking. (lol as if)

>> No.473731

>>473728
but I want TH2, I don't care about them making money, I'm not paying for their games anyway.

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>>473704
For you anon. 'cuz I love you.

>> No.473738

>>473731
Yes, that's exactly the kind of fans someone aims to please.

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473744

I want a Asagami's trio route. With hot yuri sex.

>> No.473752

Holy shit I can't believe this shit. WE CAN HAVE NICE THINGS?!

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It's the last time we can see this.

>> No.473772

>>473761
;_;

>> No.473773

>>473761
You'll find other things to bitch about, Anon.

>> No.473777

>>473761
Next one is going to be about Jinan Tokie route our something like that anyway.

>> No.473780

I came.

>> No.473781

>>473761
Next one is going to be about Jinan Tokie route or something like that anyway.

>> No.473782

>>473761
Isn't it sad- WAIT I CAN'T SAY THIS ANYMORE.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK.

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>>473761

>> No.473789

>>473761
Still no Aoko route tho

>> No.473790

I hope remake means that they also fix some of the worst facepalm moments of the story.

>> No.473792
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473792

Who the hell cares about a remake?

Young aoko DO FUCKING WANT

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473793

>>473782
Now you have to say "Isn't it great Sacchin?"
See? It's easy.

>> No.473796

>>473792
ドキドキ

>> No.473797

>>473793
Isn't it Gre- SAD Sacchin ? ;_;

I can't do it, I CAN'T

>> No.473800

>>473792
Do want too.
But there will be no H-scene in it.

>> No.473801

>>473793

She is still the lowest tier on MB.

Isnt it sad? sacchin?

>> No.473802

>>473800
>But there will be no H-scene in it.

Who gives a shit.

>> No.473804

>>473800
Nothing of value would be lost. Nasu can't write a sex scene anyways.

>> No.473805

>>473782
Don't worry you can say it until the game is released.

>> No.473808

>>473804
They were funny and an integral part of the TH gameplay, I couldn't play without 'em in a TM game.

>> No.473810

I'm going to lol so hard if both of her endings involve her dying.

Fucking hate that bitch. Especially in Melty Blood. Fuck you Sacchin faggots.

>> No.473813

>>473790
mollusks?

>> No.473814
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473814

If there is no sex scene in Tsukihime's remake, then it's still sad for Sacchin.

>> No.473815

>>473801
If she's so low tier, how come last's year tougeki champ used her (in b4 angry tournyfags explaining tier-systems)?

>> No.473819

>>473815
Because skill > character any day, duh.

>> No.473820
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473820

>>473814
shiki rape sacchin

>> No.473824

>>473562
She's a weak Vampire, in comparison to the others at that point. She hasn't even really begun feeding.

>> No.473822

>>473815
MBAC tiers aren't greatly varied like say MvC2 tiers. The Japanese just consider her the worst character. Neco-Arc, Neco-Arc Chaos, and WLen don't count as characters to them. And the SBO champ is like the only person that really uses Sacchin competitively.

>> No.473827

And now we wait for the eventual animated adaptation.

>> No.473828

>>473824
Considering how like every other vampire in the stories is among the most powerful ever, that doesn't mean much.

>> No.473831

>>473828
>>473824
Sacchin is supposed to become a Dead Apostle though. So yeah. Even if her Reality Marble is only useful against mages like Blue.

>> No.473833

>>473831
She is already a Dead Apostle. Question is whether she will become a DAA (which is doubtful).

>> No.473837

>>473828
Well, the only vampires you see are Nero, Arcueid, and Roa/SHIKI. Nero is considered one of the most powerful of the Ancestors of the Dead Apostles, Arcueid is the Crimson Moon in the making, and Roa was an incredibly powerful Dead Apostle in his first life thanks to Arcueid being the one who sucked his blood.

Sacchin has a lot of potential, but is just freshly turned. She's not that strong in comparison.

>> No.473843

>>473837
As I said before, she is only a vampire in Melty Blood, not in the Tsukihime routes.

But apparently, she has potential. Perhaps she is like Ciel.

>> No.473844

>>473827
Tsukihime anime? It would be great.

>> No.473846

>>473837
Actually, is Nero even capable of transfering vampirism? Is he even really afflicted with it?

He was a sorcerer who became a Dead Apostle equivalent via his work, meaning he wasn't ever bitten by a True Ancestor or another Dead Apostle. He became what he is by merging his own form with the forms of other creatures. The only reason he has to eat people is because his composite form requires massive amounts of sustenance.

Since he's chaos incarnate, isn't he sort of an oddity?

>> No.473848

>>473837
Depletion Garden would still rape Blue though.

>> No.473850

>>473846
All DAAs are oddities.

>> No.473851

>>473846
Well, he transmitted his properties to a girl in a KT sidestory.

>> No.473852

>>473843
But she is a vampire, in the same way that Shiki becomes one when Roa overtakes him. Vampirism isn't a simple body condition but a pollution of the soul. SHIKI transfered that pollution to Sacchin, hence why she became what she was.

>> No.473854

>>473843
What is she in the Akiha route, then ?

>> No.473856

>>473851
Well, didn't she just become another part of chaos? Not really a separate entity or successor, but just a piece left over with enough sentience to direct the other pieces. She didn't have his Reality Marble which allowed him to hold himself together, which is why she was doomed anyway.

>> No.473862

Tsukihime remake = best news possible. This way, they can actually make a Tsukihime 2, because people who didn't play it when it first came out will actually get the story.

Also, Geccha 2 says Sacchin end will be death by cannon.

>> No.473866

>>473854
blood is shed after she is slashed by Shiki's knife when he hasn't taken his glasses off (normal vampires are not even remotely affected by non-conceptual weapons).

She has become like SHIKI(her body adapted to the Tohno demon blood), and has the same powers (like Immortality, aka healing wounds and not dying unless you giver a total death).

>> No.473873

>>473866
>normal vampires are not even remotely affected by non-conceptual weapons

No, they can be. I think Arcueid mentions that they can be harmed by non-conceptual weapons, but that the wound will heal and there's the fact that they can dodge them. Bullets can be dodged.

Arcueid can't be harmed by non-conceptual weapons because she's so fucking hax in comparison. True Ancestors are on a different level, even at 30% power.

>She has become like SHIKI(her body adapted to the Tohno demon blood), and has the same powers (like Immortality, aka healing wounds and not dying unless you giver a total death).

Wrong. But whatever. If you'd like to think that, you're welcome to.

>> No.473886

>>473852
She is a special one too. She doesn't turn into a "dead" like the other victims. I think Ciel said something about it

>> No.473890

>>473873
Arcueid says that a vampire's regeneration rate is so high (in fact, the world corrects the fact that the vampire received the wound) that in effect, they are not even wounded or harmed.

She mentions her agility to tell Shiki that even if he can kill her, it's higly unlikely for him to trace her lines.


And is there any actual evidence that disproves what I said (as to why she can't be like SHIKI)?

>> No.473893

>>473856
I thought I read that she was able to keep the beasts in check through concumption of blood, and lost control because she didn't eat anyone?

>> No.473898

>>473886
She has so much potential that she bypasses several stages to directly become a Dead Apostle.

>>473890
Tohnos can't do the things that you associate with vampires. They can suck blood, but they can't create the Dead. They also can't create more demon-afflicted just by passing blood between people. Demons are special entities, and demon-hybrids need a lineage for it in order to assume possession.

>> No.473902

>>473893
She can satiate their hunger, but not control their actions or maintain the Reality Marble that binds the chaos together.

>> No.473905

>>473898
There are no FUCKING Dead mentioned in Akiha's route, only victims drained of blood and with parts eaten sometimes.

Victims that could be eaten by SHIKI.

And one of SHIKI's special abilties is that he can SHARE his gift (Tohno Nakihisa's diary).

And by the way, ANY vampire that is not a true ancestor is called a Dead Apostle.
What she could do (in Melty Blood in theory), was being one of the million that becomes a vampire instead of a ghoul or Dead.

>> No.473908

>>473905
But he's right. She by-passed the normal steps and went directly into Dead Apostle.

When getting their blood sucked by a vampire, one first becomes a ghoul, a corpse-eating ogre. They then grow into a living dead, then an actual vampire. If they can overcome their parent vampire, they become a Dead Apostle in turn.

Advancing to the different steps depends on the potential their body has. There are rare humans who can skip over the steps and become a full-fledged vampire; this is the case of Yumizuka Satsuki.

>> No.473911

>> 473597
Meh, soundtrack was really bland except for a track or two. In this regard, the anime actually completely supercedes it.

>> No.473915

>>473905
In the game is mentioned that Akiha can't make vampires, only SHIKI can, because he is Roa, a vampire. Stop your elitism faggotrism and play the game.

>> No.473920

>>473908
Yes.
The point is, that in the near-side storylines, she does not necessarily become a vampire/dead apostle.

Her vulnerability and clues given later, suggest SHIKI caused her to be like this , no ROA pollution of soul stuff.

I'm not saying it's impossible she became a vampire, but since the far-side routes do not focus on them, I think the SHIKI theory fits better.

Plus, all evidence we have on the matter is circumstancial.

>> No.473924

>>473905
Just because you don't see them doesn't mean that Arc and Ciel aren't taking them out. SHIKI doesn't seem aware of his own actions, so he probably doesn't end up consciously creating many Dead at all, since it's required that you put your own blood into the bodies to do that. Sacchin was probably a horrible mistake.

As far as his Fusion ability, it seems to allow him to modify his own body, not the bodies of others. He steals Shiki's life force and makes it his own, but ends up sharing when Shiki lives. Shiki doesn't get any benefit whatsoever out of it, though, unless you count sharing dreams a benefit.

Also, Sacchin crumbles up into dust and blows away. That's what vampires do, not demon-hybrids.

>> No.473927

I can't wait until all of this shit gets translated. 2016 will be the greatest year ever.

Wait a minute, by then I will have a wife and kids! I won't have time for this.

>> No.473928

>>473927
>Wait a minute, by then I will have a wife and kids! I won't have time for this.

Oh, I had a good laugh. You're such a kidder, anonymous.

>> No.473929

>>473920
No, play the game. Tohnos can't make people their own kind. SHIKI can, he's a vampire since Roa woke up in him.
I agree with Sacchin not being a full DA.

>> No.473941

>>473929
I have played the game, you think I thought of all this because while I haven't?

It's NEVER mentioned why SHIKI can share his gift, just that he can.

The fact that it's because of Roa is your speculation.
If the pollution is that of a vampire, then the ones he affected would become either ghouls, Dead or once in a million, Dead Apostles, who have completely different abilities from SHIKI.
For Makihisa to conclude at that, SHIKI must have polluted others and they should have exhibited the same abilities as him, which are not those of a vampire (while very similar).

Yes, there is a ton of proof that Sacchin became a vampire due to Roa, but nothing that disproves she became like SHIKI instead.

I'm not trying to be an elitist, but you still haven't told me WHY it;s impossible for this to happen.

>> No.473944 [SPOILER] 
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473944

hey I found some roughs of sacchins h-scene, assuming it gets implemented

>> No.473951

>>473944

Oh man those jagged, rough sketched lines are hot

>> No.473953

Fuck the haters, I love these things. I want to take my meaty sausage and stick it into the news's mollusks.

>> No.473957

>>473951
i'm not sayin they arn't quality, but i did say they were rough sketches. At least we know sacchin has some stuff out there, even if it is in the rough sketch stage.

>> No.473959

...Fuck yeah, best post in this thread.

>> No.473963

>>473944

I expected the game and I`m disappointed.

Looks sexy though.

>> No.473968

>>473944
If it's not a fake, then I love you.
Today, I love all of you.

>> No.473972

>>473968

Looks like characteristic Takeuchi nipples to me

>> No.473973

>>473944

why is she all by herself

>> No.473974

>>473968
Takeuchi Ears and Face angle, seems legit.

>> No.473975

>>473944
That's old. for the anons who haven't seen Sacchin route conceptual art, play Plus + Disk

>> No.473976

>>473968
PLUS+DISK MOTHERFUCKER, DID YOU READ IT?

>> No.473989

>>473976
It was a long time ago, can't remember.
I just have memories of Seo's story (not so great btw).

>> No.473992

more for the anon who haven't read Plus+Disk

"Everyday, Satsuki turns more and more into a vampire.
Acknowledging her potential, Michael Roa Valdamjong tries to put her under his full control.
In order to protect Satsuki, Shiki, along with the white vampire princess, heads to the school were Roa is hidden.
There, they encounter an old friend of the Serpent, Nero Chaos
The burning school building, the land of Misaki town being devoured by the black beast!
Revolving around the coffin of Roa, the three way battle breaks out.
Next Tsukihime Episode, Yumitsuka Satsuki Final Chapter, Destruction of Dream and Reailty"

>> No.473998
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473998

We will still be able to say: " Isn't it sad, sacchin?"

>> No.474005
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474005

The true conspirator in Sacchin's route.

>> No.474015

>>474005
Make them kiss.

>> No.474016

1 hanten shoudou Inversion/Reactionary Impulse
2 kyuuketsu shoudou Vampiric Impulse I
3 kyuuketsu shoudou Vampiric Impulse II
4 Planetarium I
5 suna suisou I Sand Aquarium I
6 suna suisou II Sand Aquarium II
7 from dust. (1) - 7 from dust. (2)
8 Planetarium II - 8 kill dawn.
9 hitodenashi no koi Cold-Blooded Love - 9 Stardust
10 kokatsu teien DEPLETION GARDEN
11 mugen kaitai Destruction of Dream and Reailty
12 Bhoshi ni negai wo Wishing upon a Star

>> No.474037

>>473941
First of all, Oni-Hybrids "infecting" Oni-Hybrids is unheard of. It just doesn't happen. Hybrids were born by mixing Oni and Human blood and getting a shitload volatile results, but there's never been any mention of infection. It's like saying she might have become a vampire because she was bitten by a dog. I can't disprove it, but it's still really a retarded concept. The bruden of proof lands on the one taking the affirmative stance.

SHIKI/Roa can share his gift because Roa's soul came tagged with "This guy is a vampire" and he became that during assimilation. It's one of the reasons Sion feels her cure for vampirism is hopeless, the infection goes as far as to alter the soul/record of the person. The only difference between Roa and SHIKI is that in the Far Side routes, SHIKI's mind had become so wasted Roa's ego couldn't surface, he says it himself during one of CIel's lessons.

In addition, Satsuki is a vampire no matter how you look at it. She nearly created ghouls for fucks sake, what more proof do you need?

>> No.474046

>>474037
Well, she didn't create any ghouls in the end (while she tried).

And in Akiha's route (where shiki doesn't kill her blood, like the maid's route), he is not actually affected.

His body merely feels heavy and sick.

>> No.474059

>>474046
Did you miss the part where he says "There's the guy in my head telling me to do things."?

That's Roa. Roa just can't take him over completely because SHIKI is too fucking crazy at this point.

>> No.474065
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474065

Btw, new Melty Blood release date and name, someone pls?

Also, I wish this pic was true.

>> No.474068

>>474059
Makihisa didn't have Roa in his head and was pretty much fucking insane on his own.

You don't need reincarnating vampires inside you to hear voices.

>> No.474070

>>474065
MELTY BLOOD Actress Again, no slated release date, but it will be out this year.

>> No.474088

>>474070
thx

>> No.474092

>>474046
Did you even read the scenes?

When Shiki first saw her, she crushed the head of a ghoul she had created by mistake saying that she was still inexperienced and mistakenly kept giving out her own blood. The corpse actually moved.

In Akiha's route, Satsuki remarks that Shiki must already be bound as a familiar to someone else. Which he most likely is since Akiha likely used the Shikigami Exertion to bring hims back.

Also, how the hell would you explain her physical skills? Seriously, it's retarded to even consider. There has never been any even vague indication of hybrids being able to taint others, this is all coming straight out your ass.

>> No.474130

>>474070
Maybe they might mention the date when they announce their new game on the 21st?

>> No.474157

>>474092
Something similar, like Akiha you say.
Akiha, who is a demon Hybrid.
The fact that she failed to create deads may be because she CAN'T?

Also, where the fuck are we given an oh-so-clear explanation on how hybrids work?

The only info we have is that they SOMEHOW introduce demon blood in them (method not mentioned).

And it's her physical skills that buffle me.
She shouldn't have her leg slashed open with a random knife strike if she was a vampire.

Also, for Makihisa to mention that SHIKI can share his gift, they must somehow have experimented on this, and some chaps were infected and acquired skills similar to his.

If SHIKI's pollution was that of a vampire, he would most likely have created Deads, who have no special abilities (unless you mean to tell me that he created vampires in that case too)

>> No.474173

>Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game

I just died.

>> No.474180

>>474157
It's not a sure thing that whoever gets bit by a vampire becomes a dead or another vampire, etc.

The reason why Satsuki is a vampire while all of those other missing and drained girls just died is because she "got lucky" you might say.

It's not really a "Bite person, receive dead/vampire" thing.

Then again, Nasu isn't known for consistency throughout his stories.

>> No.474183

>>474157
I can't decide where to begin since this doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>The fact that she failed to create deads may be because she CAN'T?
Who the hell are you talking about? Satsuki created perfectly good Dead by mistake, she just smashed them since she didn't want them.

Shikigami Exertion is an onmyouji skill used to create familiars, not part of Akiha innate skills. It's probably not that what she used anyway, just something improvised from her powers using the same principle: Puttinga bit of your life into something else and making it a familiar.

>>The only info we have is that they SOMEHOW introduce demon blood in them (method not mentioned).
Of course it's mentioned, all over the fucking place: THEY FUCK. What the hell do you think having nonhuman ancestors and the Kishimas mixing their blood with Oni's on each generation meant?

>>She shouldn't have her leg slashed open with a random knife strike if she was a vampire.
...

This is SHIKI MOTHERFUCKING EYES OF DEATH PERCEPTION NANAYA, DID YOU EVEN PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME!?

>> No.474185

>>474180
And if what I understand of the Akiha arc is correct it's not really her becoming a vampire as much as her demonic side coming alive. I think SHIKI says that he found a way to force the activation of the demonic side.

>> No.474188

>>474180
Wrong learn to read.
In the game the way for making a vampire is injecting your own blood into the bite victim.

SHIKI did it on a whim to Satsuki. Satsuki did it to Tohno to try to turn him into a vampire but he cut the blood and killed it's existence thanks to his eyes.

Reading comprehension. USE IT.

>> No.474196

Yes it is explained.

1)Blood sucked = Dead (Dead End)
2)Blood Sucked AND Parent Vampire blood inserted = Ghoul=>Living Dead=>Vampire
3) People with retardedly high magic capacity might skip evolutionary stages, even might just immediately pop up as Vampires
4) Satsuki Yumizuka has even higher magic capacity than Ciel, who is supposed to be about a 100 times higher than a regular magus.

>> No.474198

>>474183
First of all, Shiki hadn't taken of his glasses yet, he takes them of LATER.
Read it.

And the pollution fact wasn't refering to Satsuki ,dumbass, her having MAGICAL potential etc is a different matter altogether.

How did Makihisa discover that SHIKI can share his gift?
Think about it, he must have somehow created something similar to him for Makihisato arrive at that conclusion.
Were they also vampires? That's what I consider unlikely to happen, and is the biggest hole I try to cover.

>> No.474205

>>474157
It's because she is still unexperencied. She says it, and she tries to make Shiki a vampire after she considers that she now can. but Shiki kills his blood remember? just go and play the game, and this time read the scenes.
Also, remember that she knows all about ghouls and vampires and that she knows why she need blood or that she can't go in the sun.
Just play the damn game.

>> No.474209

>>474188
see >>474196
I guess

>> No.474216

>>474205
In Akiha's route, he doesn't kill the blood, only in the maids' route.

Also, if Shiki's Eyes of Death perception were active at that moment, her wounds wouldn't have healed, and I doubt she would be able to give chase normally and not panic over her limbs being slashed like that, unexperianced or not.

Arcueid had to REMAKE the parts, costing her most of her strength.

>> No.474223

>>474198
SHIKI can't "share" shit, he can establish a connection leyline to just keep on sucking energy, which is exactly what allowed him to live. It's an application of the Tohno's life plunder skills. Learn to read for fuck's sake.

>>First of all, Shiki hadn't taken of his glasses yet, he takes them of LATER.
Vampires aren't made of rock, they can Time-Reversal their injuries, but a normal fresh vampire with no additional skills can be harmed with rehular weapons. That's the reason for the whole "Bullets can actually harm them, but since they move so fast, you have shit chance of hitting them anyway" thing.

>> No.474229

>>474198
First: Makihisa does not know that when Roa awakened in SHIKI, he became a vampire. He thought that some of SHIKI's capacities, were from his demon blood, like making others like him. how did he know is unexplained. He probably feed him with people.
Second, vampires CAN be hurt with normal weapons, but they just heal. it's explained in the game and all.

>> No.474246

Tsukihime was already perfect. There's no need to remake it.

Therefore, there is no Tsukihime Remake. Also, it will never be in english.

>> No.474255

>>474246
Me and other anons or type moon fags will translate the Sacchin route like the mother fucking fist of the north star jesus christ. And that's all that matters.

>> No.474292

ITT: Sacchin and powerlevels.

Fuck you Nasu, fuck you.

>> No.474309

Tsukihime "remake'" is probably going to be Tsukihime - Melty Blood edition. More action, more powerlevels. It will suck, but I bet kids will love it.

>> No.474335

I fear that new Hisui art will destroy my nutbladder.

>> No.474367

>>474309
I prefer being an adult with a heart that of an innocent kid, one that can honestly enjoying things in life rather than being an adult who is only able to hate everything thinking he's being cool at it just because he didn't follow the mainstream.

Of course, it's just a preference, not like I can be one considering I'm already an anon, and that means being a jerk by default.

>> No.474377

>>474309
You talking Sacchin, Sion and White Len routes?

MOTHER FUCKING WANT.

>> No.474410

>>474367
>an adult who is only able to hate everything thinking he's being cool at it just because he didn't follow the mainstream.

Wearing a Naruto headband isn't mainstream, kid.

>> No.474417
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474417

at least this shit looks awesome. For me though.

>> No.474433

>>474410
never said it is.

>> No.474446

>>474433

Yes you did. At least that's what you meant.

Take that headband off. It looks stupid.

>> No.474469

>>474417

Yes, it looks awesome. What is it?

>> No.474471

>>474469
Tohno Mansion's back garden of course!

>> No.474479

>>474469

It's some sort of an magazine.

>> No.474489

>>474479

Wow. Looks awesome. It's really amazing what modern printing machines can do.

>> No.474699
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474699

>>474469
Girl’s Work. Pic stolen at EvoSpace's site. Blame him for the LOL quality.

>> No.474854

so I suppose that the next thing we see is a caster route?

>> No.474931
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474931

if I'd known this I wouldn't have done the traces, seeing how as the remake's going to be decent quality.

>> No.475088

>>474931
Requesting the rest of your traces.
Preferably the no-background and line art ones.

>> No.475326

>>475088
http://xs.to/albums/120798338766105872726319.html

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