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4710255 No.4710255 [Reply] [Original]

Why is Japan so bad at Starcraft™?

>> No.4710261

not enough game related fatality's yet

>> No.4710273

Because japan sucks.

Anyway it's more because Korea is taking it too seriously. They have competing houses dedicating 70%-80% of their lives for this game. Just like with any other real sports they take seriously.

>> No.4710278

Who cares if someone is good at a genre where fundamentally your only tactic is mindless attrition and producing more than your opponent can?

>> No.4710282

>>4710278
That's what scrubs like you think.

>> No.4710286

Japan is only good at fapping on VNs.

>> No.4710284

>>4710278
Not exactly mindless, that's just ignorant of you.

>> No.4710289

I don't like Starcraft. American game yuck.

>> No.4710290

>>4710255
Because it hardly has any Japanese players?

>> No.4710300

I love Starcraft. I wish my beta invite came sooner.

>> No.4710301

>>4710284
Actually it is. After a hundreds of games it's imposible to make something new. So this is a pure skill. Just like in every fukcing game actually.

>> No.4710309

The coach of our national handball team once explained how things worked in South Korea. Basically, they take all their talents under one roof, and have them train vigorously day and night and night and day. Sports teams in South Korea are like a big family, they live together and train together every day.
The crazy thing is that they do this with stuff like Chess and Go and what-have-you...even Starcraft...
serious business.

>> No.4710311

Japan is too busy destroying the rest of the world at fighting games.

>> No.4710312

>>4710301
>it's imposible to make something new
Maps change all the time. People find new ways to abuse certain units. Tactics change and evolve.

>> No.4710313

>>4710311
UMEHARA GA KIMETAAAAA

>> No.4710314

Does anyone have invite?

>> No.4710317

/v/

>> No.4710330

/jp/ even actually thinks modern warfare2 is good.

>> No.4710333
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>>4710330
Fascinating.

>> No.4710335

>>4710330
Wait shit I meant to type Japan not /jp/

>> No.4710487

>>4710314
If I did have would sell it on EBay

>> No.4710503

>>4710255
Because they hate Korea and everything associated with it.

>> No.4710525

Starcraft2 was pretty meh.
same game with better visuals, little really changed.

>> No.4710545

>>4710525
Well, actually...

...yeah, you're right...

>> No.4710560

>>4710525
That isn't a bad thing. :)

>> No.4710570

>>4710560
>:)
Get the fuck out.

>> No.4710580 [DELETED] 

>>4710560
I hardly think a cosmetic upgrade warrants all the time it took them to make the game.

>> No.4710585

>>4710560
I hardly think a cosmetic upgrade warrants all the time it took them to make the game.
So I wouldn't call it a good thing either, like I said, it's meh, just meh, not good, not bad, just meh.

>> No.4710598

I don't think they're still all that into PC gaming. Or online gaming for that matter.

>> No.4710632

>>4710585
>the time it took them to make the game.

there is no excuse for this, they made TWO dark templars, give them animations and everything till BOTH were in the game, then they made a question: what do you want better? swords? scythes? or both?

gez blizzard why the fuck are you asking this in the first place

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>>4710632

>> No.4710726

>>4710650
Nice meme. You better go post it on /b/ before they realize it's missing.

>> No.4710760

>>4710632
Yeah really, ten years for a visual upgrade? and there's much better looking games out on the market that took less then half the time.
It's not like it's a small game maker with a low budget for this title..
wtf blizzard?

>> No.4710781

just like with warcraft 3, i'm only getting it for the map editor/custom maps.

>> No.4710785

I can understand Blizz not wanting to screw this up and worrying about balance alot, but really...
Look at, say, Warcraft II vs Warcraft III. Now look at Starcraft vs Starcraft II.
I know their totally different games and I don't understand all the finer points and blah blah blah. Shut up.

>> No.4710788

>>4710781
Please don't buy it then and support crappy development.

>> No.4710821

>>4710760
You must be kidding. I'm so glad Blizzard is not fucking up the game like they did with W3. And map editor. New language is thousands times better than that JASS failure, functionality of map editor is tremendous, whole new games can be easily made with map editor (key word is easily, unlike in W3). Campaign will be good too. Starcraft doesn't need anything else.

It took them 10 years because they were working on WoW. It may be a reason to hate Blizzard if you're an asshole (people love money?!?! this is an outrage!), but not Starcraft 2.

>> No.4710827

>>4710785
> their
You point is automatically invalid.

>> No.4710848

>>4710821
I don't hate starcraft2 or blizzard.
like I said, I just thought the game was meh.
I don't think it's bad, I just expected a bit.. more.

>> No.4710846

Oh, and CNC4 is dog shit. Metacritic reviews average: 6.7/10. Metacritic user average: 2.7/10. Nice job EA.

>> No.4710863

>>4710848
What more would you have really wanted? A new race perhaps?

>> No.4710866

>>4710848
But you don't even know what you were expecting.

>> No.4710865

I heard Blizzard will something like AppStore for maps. You can sell your own maps for teh money.

>> No.4710879

Can't wait for shittons of dota clones.

>> No.4710883

>>4710866
True.

>> No.4710895

>>4710865
I hope it will be a failure. I hope no one will buy maps and no one will sell maps in that god damn store. Fucking era of DRM.

>> No.4710899

>>4710821

Blizzard got so fucking lazy it's funny. Look at WoW, all new item sets in WotLK were old sets with changed colors. They think everybody will eat their shit just because it's Blizzard.

>> No.4710906

>>4710899
I wouldn't know for I don't play this piece of shit.

>> No.4710922

Where are my lurkers, blizz? You said there would be lurkers.

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>> No.4710929

>>4710922
We call them roaches now.

>> No.4710936

god, the visual design is awful

look at that nexus

LOL WE'LL PUT GLOWING JEWELS EVERYWHERE THAT'LL DETRACT FROM THE FACT THAT THIS THING IS UGLY COMPARED TO THE PROTOSS NEXUS FROM STARCRAFT 1

>> No.4710935

>>4710906

Even though you should be able to see that Starcraft2 is just Starcraft with new graphics, worse balance and retarded new units.

>> No.4710933

>>4710899
Don't make me talk about WoW. I'll be stuck on it all day.

>> No.4710941

>>4710929
...roaches have nothing in common with lurkers.

>> No.4710948

>>4710936
Cool opinion bro.

>> No.4710950

Starcraft should be more dynamic.

>> No.4710965

>>4710936

Not only that. This new graphic make big battles look like a vortex of mixed rainbows. It's really hard to see what's going on and micro. Pro players are already complaining about that.

>> No.4710973

How about try playing a strategy game that actually requires some fucking strategy.

>> No.4710978

Japan is bad at Starcraft because not many japanese play it.

>> No.4710975
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4710975

New units are good. Balance is being worked on (I don't even have a beta key, I only play with AI). I don't see what's wrong with Nexus (maybe you're just blinded by your baseless hate?)

>> No.4710984

game isn't even closet to balanced
they gave terran and protoss too big of buffs without giving zerg a big enough buff
they shouldn't have gotten so much better in the first place
that unit they replaced the goliath with is stupid as well as that new huge protoss one

>> No.4710990

I'm pretty sure all butthurts here is by fags without beta accounts.

>> No.4710992

>>4710975
New Nexus lacks those silly claw arm things. I don't miss them, but without the original frills, it looks pretty tame.

>> No.4710996

>>4710984
Don't talk shit about the Viking.

>> No.4711003

>>4710973

Starcraft is all about micro and not strategy. It's a game for freaks who train like crazy 16h a day to show how "pro" they are, and casuals who want to have a fast and easy fun. Nothing wrong with the second.

>> No.4711012

>>4711003
no, you're an idiot
warcraft 3 was about micro
in starcraft 2 macromanagement is what's really key

>> No.4711017
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4711017

Why am I so useless?

>> No.4711026

>>4710965
This is something I predicted from the beginning.
"Hey, let's make this shooting graphic like this!"
"Yeah, and lets make this thing shoot huge balls of plasma!"
After every visual effects dev has had their way, their units individually have awesome effects, but in a pitched battle it's just a clusterfuck of glowing colors which makes it impossible to see or even enjoy.

>> No.4711033

>>4711017

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT6hvgOeZ5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMKe6gmwvzw

>> No.4711067

>>4711026
>Clusterfuck of glowing colorful bullet effects
DANMAKU?
IN MY STARCRAFT!?
I'LL TAKE TWENTY!

>> No.4711087

>>4711067
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joNPrnY4K_4

4 minute

>> No.4711101

>>4711017
Useless my ass. I've seen loads of games won because they were used to counter a build.

>> No.4711120
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4711120

http://www.who-sucks.com/people/the-exciting-world-of-south-korean-protests

>> No.4711129

>>4711017
They were pretty useless when they had no abilities (after Overload was removed), but then they got Anti-Gravity, and now they're quite useful.

>> No.4711134

Is PvP still dominated by Proxy Gating and Proxy Pylon/Warpgate?

>> No.4711137

>>4711033
Huh. That was pretty good. I'll still take my oh-so-expensive scouts any day, but...

>> No.4711177

>>4711134
Not so much now they seem to lasting longer but still whoever comes out on top of the first major battle just wins. Colossuses with the usual smaller units seems to be the current unit mix of choice for PvP

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