/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I think my parents were a little over-protective when I was younger so I didn't end up going out that much.

*nods, sips tea*

fuck yeah, Poky!

I was always lazy from the start.

What &ponpo& said, except replace overprotective with "neglectful" or "didn't give a shit".

Nothing went "wrong," what are you talking about OP?

I just sleepwalked through life, not considering too much where the hell I was going or where I should be going, and just happened to end up here.

>>4615502
This. What you should be asking, OP, is what went wrong with everyone else?

>>4615496
Pretty much this. Doing great with my studies but my free time gets wasted here. It's not that bad I guess.

>implying anything is wrong with my life

I'm doing pretty good anon, got a job, admittedly still living with my parents but I should be able to move out soon, get my own apartment, fill it with weaboo shit :)

Feels good.

>>4615521

>got a job,

get out

>>4615521
Go back to /v/.

Been a NEET + hikikomori for 5 years and counting and it's been great.

>>4615521
Working emoticon faggot.

>I never should've played Kana ~Imouto

Funny, this is one of the things that I'm most glad I done.

>>4615536
I'm on my 3rd year. TBH, I'm getting kinda bored, need to get a job, atleast so I can have more money to buy shit, like games, figs and upgrade my rig

>Where did it go wrong for you

When I was given birth.

Well, it's a like double-edge sword. I suffer from the way I am but I also like it.

I've thought about it a lot and blamed it on various things, but in the end the only one out faut is me and my being lazy.

I dont know. If I had to blame something, it'd be my dads new girlfriend treating me very bad when I was little and my own mother being over-protective when it comes to going out and socializing. She never really cared about what I did as long as I stayed inside though.

>>4615559
I don't see how playing a depressing eroge could ever be a good thing.

>>4615857
This. My lfie was great when I live with my mom who let me do whatever the hell I wanted. I ended up playing Goldeneye multiplayer for years, best time of my life.

Then social services made me move in with my dad, he hoarded me and my brothers up in an apartment and didn't want us going outside because it was dangerous. I ended up wasting my time alone on the internet and it never really ended.

>>4615868

lol

divorced parents

it was your fault you know

We didn't even have a computer, but I was in and out of hospitals in my youth and one of the only things you could really do there if you didn't want to play with stuffed toys or read books for four year olds was fuck around with some computers they had set up. I was instantly hooked and it was all down hill from there once my parents finally gave in to my constant begging and figured maybe a computer would actually be helpful somehow. The poor fools.

My parents always treated me like some sort of meat object that they had to spend money on rather than as a person. I could never get their condemnation or approval so eventually I just stopped doing anything at all.

Around the time I got my first job.

>>4615875
It was my little brother's fault, actually.

After 3 kids my mom was beat and turned to alcohol, then she beat up my dad until he couldn't take it anymore and filed for divorce.

Then I went from upper middle class to the poorest kid in public school. Divorce is fun.

i just don't know

>>4615559

This. I learned to appreciate the things in life that I took for granted.

>>4615490
fucking freak! clean up you dirty tosser!

>>4615490
nowhere, life is good and getting better steadily - no point in mulling over things that are already done.

I was born a failure. Even my parents remarked to me that I was an outcast in preschool.

This was the only path.

>>4615521
>job
Gtfo. /jp/ is for NEETs only.

>>4615490
>No mom, I don't wanna go to mass I must play Tomb Raider !
It was a loooong downfall from there.

>>4616129
thats never going to be true, sorry.

>>4616129
Can't be a NEET forever man. I'm 25, I moved back in with my folks when I was 23 after living on my own for 4 years, I really don't want to still be here when I am 30.

>>4616145


Ouch.. 30 with those fuckers? I'd die. Glad to be free! Factory work is nice!

How many of you guys grew up without any meaningful fathering?

There hasn't been any special turn in my life, I was destined to travel this path

>>4616149
Yeah I'll probably get a factory job. Drive a forklift or hand pick, whatever. It's easy, little responsibility and pay is alright. It's what I did when I used to work anyway. Only problem is I have a 2 year gap in my resume.

Back in highschool I had a girlfriend and she said 'Hey check out this stuff called anime!' and I said back 'What, those chinese porn cartoons?'

;_; Yeah... now I watch more anime then anyone else I know, play VNs until 1 in the morning and rarely go outside. I've started slowly loosing my friends (they simply don't call anymore and when I am around the whisper to each other) I've stopped playing videogames as a whole, I no longer find them fun (Although I'll still play Doom, UT99, F-zero, and touhou on occasion). Long story short, I became the very thing I hated in about 3 years.

I used to bully other kids when I was little, and this power got taken away from me when I entered high school. I broke down, ended up in my room, still in my room, etc.

I'll try to be a priest, like Kotomine but much shorter and less handsome.

>>4616199
mmm little boys

>>4616195
serves you right

>>4616215
Hell no. It's just to be able to get money for doing nothing, thus making me able to continue my NEET lifestyle.

Also I want to put the Holy Grail into an Holy Grail.

>>4616195

Me too except I continued during high school and didn't really break down, I just lived in hypocrisy.

I guess I stopped in grade 10 when I grew up and realized that my friends are dumb and so is bullying.

But of which religion will you acquire priesthood, anon? Catholicism? Buddhism?

I am a priest of Communism....

>>4616267
Glenn Beck would like to have a word with you.

>>4616723
My lord and savior would never grace me with his presence.

>>4616199
I'm glad that one of you have been inspired towards the right path. Fap into the ceremonial cup for me when you reach your goal.

Dragged into this since parents were overly got me focused on studying.. eventually despised being outside the house. Currently living on my own, currently being a NEET since I'm not employed ever since I quit my job last year.

Now that you mention it, I don't even know.

When I was a kid, I would lie in bed for the first few moments of each day and try to link moments in time. I would say "Will I remember this moment when I am on the school bus today? When I am eating dinner tonight? When I am grown-up?" I thought it would make things seem like a movie, where things can suddenly cut to a scene that takes place much later in the timeline.

Then one day I woke up in a room full of monitors, figures of anime girls, and empty beer bottles, and thought "Oh shit."

The older I get, the earlier I realize it started going wrong. I'd say not being social in grade school started it.

>>4615536
I don't think you are a real NEET + hikikomori .
If you truly where you should be miserable as fuck by now. At first it might seem as fun and relaxed but after a few years or so depression should hit you hard, especially after 3-4 years.
After five years things shouldn't be "allright"
I believe you either aren't telling the whole truth, you might not have had that status throughout the entire 5 year period, or you are posing, trying to look good in /jp/ by being a hardcore NEET.

I woke up.

>>4616932
Fascinating.

>>4616925
there are people who might enjoy living like that, well okay mainly as NEET.
Being a ''real'' hikikomori is another deal but enjoying it is not impossible either.

>>4616942

It's where I went wrong.

And you?

This thread is sad and I refuse to end up as a failure like you all.

>>4616925
>posing, trying to look good in /jp/ by being a hardcore NEET
>has a tripcode
Yeah, ~99% possibility that that is correct.

work from computer
play on computer
read/watch/listen to anything on computer

i dont need to leave my room, but i do go driving around on my moped because i love fresh air and wind in my hair.

Divorce. Lost all desire to interact with 3D. Also, I do not think that a pre-requisite for hikikomori is self-loathing or general dissatisfaction with his/her present situation. For some it is a choice because it is what is most comfortable. I am happier this way. Less heartbreak. Less complication. More animu.

>>4616953
>implying you have a choice
JOIN US

Was a teen enchanted with the otaku culture, around a decade ago, when a bunch of normalfags tried to "intervene" and make me a normal productive person in society. Shit backfired.

Have a decent job and am attending college full-time as well. Graduating in about a year and a half. Life is looking good, man.

Why are VN's so fun? :(

>>4616979
>Choice
If you don't have trouble going outside, just chosing not to, then you aren't a hikki, just an ordinary shut-in.

>>4616999
No, hikikomori means someone who has been shut in from social interaction for 6 months or more. It doesnt matter if you fear the outside or if its by choice.
Real life Japanese people use it very loosely though

>>4617026
and by ''it'' I mean the word ''hikikomori''

>>4616882
This is pretty much exactly what has happened to me.

>hikki, shut-in.

In Japan, it's all the same shit.

wheres that video of the girl who gets water dumped on her by family or whatever? japan hates shut ins

I found 4chan

Pokémon happened.
Fuck you Japan. Fuck you.

Honestly, i think it began to wrong when my grandma bought me a sega genesis when i was little, because that led me into video games, which then lead me into computer games.

>>4617151
4chan found you.

nothing yet

Honestly, I wasn't ready for college at 19 when I first went, at all. I got bad grades and dropped college thinking who the fuck needs that shit, then I worked a SHIT ass job for a year and wanted to kill myself. I was then depressed for a couple years and DID NOTHING during this time other than play computer games like wow. I made lots of friends I still talk to and I consider these people the best friends i'll ever have.

It was around that time that one of them got me to watch fullmetal alchemist and berserk. I loved them, moved onto my other favorite genres (shoujo-ai, romance, comedy etc) and a year later I had learned a bunch of japanese from studying, watched 30+ days worth of anime, and played a fuckton of japanese games like visual novels. I got into touhou at some point, now have a touhou figurine (yuyuko!) and hundreds of gigs of touhou music/images.

SO, i'd have to say it went "wrong" for me when my friends helped me out of the most depressing period of my life, anime and games being a big part of that help. I'm now a fulltime student, getting decent grades, planning to move out before the year is over.

I have nothing against NEETS or HIKKIS but I don't think I want to live with my parents much longer. As much as I help them I think they would really like to see me move out, and I will do it completely for them, they deserve it for putting up with me.

Independence > NEET

I guess it was when I started actively browsing 4chan.
I don't think I regret it that much.

>>4617031
>>4617026
A bit late in replying but
>The term hikikomori refers to both the sociological phenomenon in general as well as to people belonging to this societal group.
definitions, definitions
I wouldn't call you a hikkikomori, but you would still be placed in the same group by some.

I've always been a really shy person. I used to skateboard with a couple of friends when I was like 12 or 13, but they all ended up moving away or transferring schools one after another. Things just went downhill from there, got addicted to MMORPGs, and stopped going outside, grades slipped, etc.

>>4617262
you should continue reading that wikipedia article a bit further, my friend.

>>4617230
>Independence > NEET
I think you'll retract that statement once your wages after taxes only barely pay for rent and food.

>>4617262
And if I add to that
It is mostly certain psychologists and hikikomori of the sociological aspect that don't like the broader definition of the term.
Psychologists mainly because it is misleading and makes for confusing statistics.
Hikkis as it might give the illusion of it not being as big of a deal as it is.

But in common speech it is quite common for it to just mean anyone that rarely goes outside, or spend a lot of time indoors, but that is people using the word loosely.

>>4617303
working 40hours at walmart HATING every second
being able to only scrape by rent/food/gas/insurance

FUCK THIS MOVAN BACK INTO PARENTS HOUSE

dont work
dont worry
dont care

INTERNET!!!

story of my life

started going to cons...

>>4616128
This. I've been fucked from the start.

>>4617336

>>4617329


Piss on that! that sucks! Try 84 hours a week! Bring home 680 bucks a week man! That is the real money!

though you won't have time to spend it.. or sleep.. or take a bath..

>>4617376
i have niether the want nor the need.
if you honestly work that much, just join the navy or something. you would make more, not have to pay rent EVER, and work less. only downside is bootcamp, but you still get paid for that. plus, in the navy your ON A BOAT MOTHERFUCKER

>>4617230
Independence is overrated.

I've been living by myself for 3 years and shit gets boring and depressing. The days just start blurring together and even browsing /jp/ or playing games feels like a chore to get me through the day.

I remember playing Clannad while in this depressed state and I went into a catatonic state for about 2 weeks. Shit sux.

i dropped out of high school and never really looked back.

I used to be a hard worker, with friends, and a future, a job, and academic success. I lost my job and realized my parents would still pay for me even if I didn't work. I got another job, worked it for awhile, but my mind was already tweaked I guess. I got annoyed by the work and just flat-out quit, no notice. Now it's just internet all day, for like the last year. It's really fun just being a NEET, I can see why you guys like it.

>>4617547
>I can see why you guys like it
Most of us don't have a choice.

>>4617547
Being a NEET is not fun and being a Hikikomori is worse.
True NEETs don't go around saying how fun it is, and those who is have shit themselves into a bubble of delusions, but when that bubble breaks depression follows.

>>4617742
Don't remind me. As if I wasn't feeling bad enough already

>>4617742
Being a NEET has nothing to do with being a depressed faggot with social anxiety. It just means you aren't in school or employed. Plenty of people like that have friends and are generally happy.

>>4617756
You're an idiot. That's exactly what a hikikomori/NEET is. Otherwise, we would just say recluse or shut-in. Being a depressed socially anxious faggot has everything to do with being NEET or hikikomori.

>>4617756
They go hand-in-hand

>>4617778
Yes, it certainly has something to do with being a hikikomori, but not a NEET. NEET means "Not in Education, Employment, or Training", and that is the only thing that it means. Anything else is bullshit you've added onto it for some retarded reason.

hikikomori with girlfriend

>>4617778
>Calling out someone when he doesn't know what NEET literally means.

>>4617783
I'm sure there is a correlation between being NEET and being the type of person that uses /jp/, but that has nothing to do with the definition of the term.

>>4617778
no, they dont. NEET = not in education, employment or training and hikikomori just means a shut-in. Official definition requires you to stay away from social interaction for 6 months to be a hikki...
its just that most hikikomoris are depressed. The same cant be said about NEETs, most of them are searching for work and dont stay NEETs for too long.

I'm NEET and I don't pity myself at all.

>>4617778
Being the anon you replied to I believe I could thank you for calling me an idiot.
But yes I am aware that it isn't the same, did I imply that it was?
But they do lead to depression.
If you want you could call each and everyone who are temporarily without a job NEETs, that or you could apply it to people who have been stuck in that position for quite some time.
It gears towards depression as time flow by.
Being a bit hast with insults are we? What is the point? Trying to look cool? A serious question because I don't see the point

A NEET is not automatically depressed at all, that's some serious bullshit, being a NEET is fucking amazing, you can have all the friends and social interaction you fucking want, you just don't do anything stressful, at all.

>>4617832
>If you want you could call each and everyone who are temporarily without a job NEETs, that or you could apply it to people who have been stuck in that position for quite some time.
not really, the word does have a clear meaning. true that usually it seems to be used of young people not willing or unable to work while other people are just called ''unemployed''.

>>4617832
Sorry. Wasn't trying to look cool, I didn't mean it personally. I'm obviously the idiot too since I grouped NEET together with hikikomori without intentionally meaning to.

>Hikikomori
>Official definition
Really now. Read some books and or research reports.
There still are debates regarding hikikomories.
Taking a definition made by some at one point trying to make some sense out of it instead of not having a definition at all and saying "This is IT" is perhaps not the most clever thing.

>>4617870
maybe so, but the ''official'' one mentioned ITT seems pretty decent. it does not exclude people doing work from their homes, it does not make every antisocial guy a ''hikikomori'', etc.

>>4617742
No faggot. Not every NEET is depressed, self-loathing, unhappy. Just because you are, don't project your reality on everyone else and ruin our fun. Quit trying to drag me down to your level, you wretch. If we wanted to change that badly, we would. You can go out and get a job at McDonalds anytime. Most of us like living this way, with only the occasional bout of regret.

>>4617866
>Most of us like living this way, with only the occasional bout of regret.

>Most of us like living this way
Keep on believing that.
>with only the occasional bout of regret.
That occasional bout of regret will hit you harder and more often as time goes if things just stay the same.

If you don't enjoy being NEET then you're actually just a normalfag who is out of their element.

>Where did it go wrong for you

Freshmen year of college I guess. If you've ever watched Welcome to the NHK thats pretty much exactly what happened to me. One day while walking to class I just turned around, and that was that.

but there was no girl magically there to care about me ; ;

>>4617918
Its human nature to feel like a piece of shit when you have nothing going on in your life. Only difference is the longer you are a NEET the less you care. So I would say your statement is pretty accurate.

>>4618066
>Its human nature to feel like a piece of shit when you have nothing going on in your life.
some people can replace the stuff ''normal'' people have in their lives by doing ''useless'' stuff alone. Like playing all the newest video games, learning something, etc.

>implying my life went wrong somewhere

Just apathy
Currently in a job and uni that was 'forced' on me
The pay's good and free tuition, so yeah