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Why did Zun make a second version of the shittiest of the TH Project games? There is no midstages, no new characters, no storyline. And Aya sucks.

>> No.4550075

That's not Aya.

>> No.4550078

Did you see how well UFO went over?

>> No.4550079

Why is Double Spoiler such a stylish name?

>> No.4550091

♪Ha~ankei hachijuugo senchi wa kono te no todoku kyori♪

>> No.4550092

To piss off secondary fans who get nothing for a whole year.

>> No.4550093

it's a troll by ZUN on all of us,

>> No.4550098

>Why did Zun make a second version of the shittiest of the TH Project games? There is no midstages, no new characters, no storyline. And Aya sucks.

This is what secondary fans actually believe

>> No.4550100

>no midstages, no new characters, no storyline
you played it allready? wow.

>And Aya sucks
And she also swallows. ^^ :P *^* ^+^ etc

nice hating btw.

>> No.4550104

So what, he's going to skip summer Comiket and wait until next year for TH13? That's some bullshit right there.

>> No.4550107

I like Aya..

>> No.4550109

I like StB. It made me decent at touhou in general.

>> No.4550114

Whole number, whole game. This isn't, therefore, it's only a part of a game.

>> No.4550123

I just hope it has more than just 108 scenes!
ZUN, you cheat.

>> No.4550126

All Youkai now have pointy ears, it is canon, ZUN agreed don't bother him about it.

>> No.4550154
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4550154

Double spoiler.

>> No.4550156

Shoot the Bullet is my favorite Touhou. I watch warmly.

>> No.4550163

>>4550126
Didn't you know? 'Youkai' means elf in Japanese.

>> No.4550201

Aya's pointy ears are a result of indirect contact with radioactivity in SA, which is also the reason of Marisa's new look in UFO. Reimu didn't change because she's an undead zombie, so yeah.

Expect to see Yukari, Suika, Alice, Patchouli and Nitori with a different look in their next apparition.

>> No.4550260

>>4550201
ELF YUKARI

>> No.4550271

>>4550260
blond and elf-ears go well together.

try elf nitori.

>> No.4550275
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4550275

>no storyline

You say that as if it were a bad thing.

>> No.4550285

>>4550201
But they weren't actually there, they were using magical cell phones!

>> No.4550289

>>4550123
>I just hope it has more than just 108 scenes!
>ZUN, you cheat.

But 108 is a number with mystic significance!

>> No.4550295

>>4550271
Kappa have pointed ears in the folklore sometimes I think.

>> No.4550301

>>4550289
Not if 82 of them are the same ones from STB.

>> No.4550314

>>4550301
He have made them harder, according to the translation.
I am only able to get to stage 7 and 8 in StB.
This game will make be cry tears of blood.

>> No.4550317

StB is the best Touhou game hands down.

>> No.4550335

and theres no appeal to secondaries
delicious

>> No.4550348

>>4550335

None of the games appeal to "secondaries". Except maybe the fighters.

>> No.4550351
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>>4550079
>Why is Double Spoiler such a stylish name?
DOUBLE SPOILER GATTAI

>> No.4550355

I hated StB. It was nothing but watching replays and getting carpal tunnel.

>> No.4550366

>>4550301
Now that you say that... it looks like both translations (and even Google Translate) say that DS is indeed going to have all previous scenes. Oh man what.

Still... I'll believe that it's going to have only new content and new characters, no matter what they say.

>> No.4550377

>>4550348
Are you forgetting IN?

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>>4550366
>DS is indeed going to have all previous scenes. Oh man what.

Don't worry guys. He may still have something else for C78...!

>> No.4550382

The only redemption DS can receive is if Momizi is an alternate playable character, rather than just a boss.

>> No.4550383

>storyline
wwwwwwwww

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>>4550366
They're all the previous scenes in the MoF engine, it might feel a bit different.

Plus apparently you can bomb and stuff.

>> No.4550393

>>4550377
but some people actually find IN hard
yeah don't ask me how

>> No.4550395

>>4550390

>you can bomb and stuff

StB is ruined.

>> No.4550396

>>4550366
It's hard to tell exactly what he means. It might be that he just threw the old stuff in there with new backgrounds and sprites just so you'd have it all in one game, or that he picked a few and redid them. I'll just assume it has a lot of new content in SOME form.

>> No.4550408

"I'll have a Double Shpoiler, on the rocks."

>> No.4550411

>>4550393
Maybe they're doing no-bomb runs on Lunatic.

>> No.4550417
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>>4550395
Hey hey, this is hearsay. I have no idea whether it's true or how it is implemented. I can't read moon so I can't tell you for sure.

>> No.4550419

>>4550396
Of course there will be new content. Even StB had some spellcards that hadn't made an appearance yet.

>> No.4550426

>>4550411
or with their eyes closed
like i played some months ago

>> No.4550430
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4550430

If this game has Tenshi in it, I am going to cream my pants.

Even if she has elf ears.

>> No.4550431

>>4550419
>Even StB had some spellcards that hadn't made an appearance yet.
StB was 100% original spellcards unless I'm forgetting a couple.

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>>4550417

>> No.4550440

>>4550417
It's not true/your retarded

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4550445

>no midstages
I don't know what this means.

>no new characters
There are enough as it is. Don't worry, I am sure that next year ZUN will release a new game with plenty of new waifus for you.

>no storyline.
lol playing a shmup for the story

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4550448

>>4550440
YEAH WELL
I fucked you're Touhou.

>> No.4550457 [DELETED] 

>>4550431
After Extra there is some Level 1 with no scenes in it. Maybe that's where the new scnese come in?

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>> No.4550464

I think by 'previous scenes' he doesn't mean previous scenes from STB, he means previous scenes from the games.

As in, you know, spellcards that have appeared in the games since STB.

And the rest are original spellcards that have never appeared before.

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>>4550461

>> No.4550476

>>4550431
After Extra there is Level 1 with no scenes in it. Maybe that's where the new scenes come in?

>> No.4550480

>>4550457
One of the screenshots shows it on Level 1 and it's the Aki sisters. That's a pretty good indication that it's a whole new game (returning content notwithstanding).

>> No.4550483

>>4550092
Us secondaryfags get all of our favourite characters back. What do you get? A game without shooting.

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>>4550483

It's funny because it's true.

>> No.4550506

>>4550476
Damn it you changed your post and now it sounds like you're right. But it actually says "newspaper extra 1".

>> No.4550518
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>>4550483
STB was all about the shooting. You can beat all the Touhou games without firing a single shot...except for STB (and STB2, presumably) which you can't beat without firing a single shot.

Ergo, STB is more shooty than the other danmaku games.

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>>4550483
>>4550502
Shooting is a low, common activity. Photography is for truly refined people such as myself.

>> No.4550556

>>4550518
Given the outcome of StB's "shot", it should probably be properly classified as a bomb.

So, StB is the only game that encourages you to bomb all the way through it.

>> No.4550560

>>4550556
But the title implies that it is a shot.

>> No.4550564

>>4550560
...not anymore...

>> No.4550584

If DS allowed bombing, I see no way how ZUN could claim this to be considerably harder than anything we've previously seen, much less StB.

>> No.4550593

>>4550476
According to ZUN's screenshots, there's no left arrow at that big "Level 1", so I don't believe that's the case.

By the way, fuck you Japanese and how hard it is to make sense of things in order to translate them properly.

>> No.4550594

>>4550564
Well, yeah. It's Shoot the Bullet 2: Double Spoiler.

Look at the background in the screenshots of the gameplay.

>> No.4550622

So who else is currently trying failing to all-clear StB before DS comes out

I'm down to 8 left. I think I can do it.

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>>4550622
I hit upon that idea and gave up after trying Scene 1-5 about twelve times and dying each time on the last photo.

>> No.4550637

>>4550622
I'm about where I was when I last played stb a year or so ago, with 15 or so not completed.

They're staying uncompleted because if ds has all of stb's scenes in it anyways I'll have to redo everything again anyways so why bother.

>> No.4550640

>>4550632
>1-5
I'm so sorry.

>> No.4550643

>>4550637
Nobody knows what it has. Go clear those scenes, boy.

>> No.4550653

>>4550643
But... most of them have like 500+ attempts already (one is over 1300) and I doubt I'd ever clear them save by luck. Not to mention the fact that I haven't played it in a year so I'd have to work back up to where I was when I stopped...

Though... stb WAS so god damn frustratingly fun in ways...

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>>4550472
Here, made a new one of those for you.

>> No.4550663

>>4550632
Could be worse. I smoked stages 1 and 2, and after getting the 4th picture on 3-1, Alice sends out so much danmaku I have no time or space to get a picture in. Spent 3 hours on all of Stage 3 yesterday. Hurt my hand from pounding my desk in frustration. The game would be 100% improved if more could be done about the music. Happy flying repetitious music doesn't mix with death spree.

>> No.4550671

>>4550662

Many thanks.

>> No.4550677

>>4550622
I've completed all of 41 scenes so far. No way I'll clear it before DS.

>> No.4550681

>>4550663
The first time I played StB i got about to where you are (Alice) before getting raped over and over and over and giving up for months. Then, months later, I tried again and accidentally found out you can charge your camera faster. All the sudden, things were doable again, and I cleared almost every scene up into the 7s or 8s with time and practice and some luck.

>> No.4550695

>>4550653
Oh. I've been playing some hard things since my last round of StB so I actually got better, although 9-6 and 10-5 still fuck me in the ass. But at least I handle them much better now up until the last shots where they get explosively hard.

>> No.4550697

>>4550681

>you can charge your camera faster

Wait... how? I'm always in "how do I block?" tier.

>> No.4550716

>>4550697
Shift+Z

>> No.4550721

>>4550697
Shift + Z
I just figured this out last night, and was suddenly able to clear levels 3 through six in two hours. Goddamn the game is so much harder without it.

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4550723

>And Aya sucks.
And she's damned good at it, too.

>> No.4550739 [DELETED] 

>>4550721
Read StB's ingame manual.

>> No.4550735

>>4550697
Focus + Shot buttons, usually Shift+Z (although Z+X works too).
Be careful though, as you'll slow down to holy shit why are you so slow levels when you do this.

>> No.4550742

>>4550739
Manuals are for women. Real men figure it out on their own.

>> No.4550745

>>4550697
Focus and keep the shoot button pressed.

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4550756

>>4550723
>And she's damned good at it, too.

>> No.4550762

>>4550756
thatsthejoke.jpg

>> No.4550763

>>4550716
>>4550721
>>4550735
>>4550745

Thanks, you guys. Now I have to learn how to block. Not in StB, of course.

>> No.4550790

>>4550763
Wait, you mean you don't know how to block in StB? Dude, that's like, basics of basics in this game. No wonder you're bad at it.

>> No.4550794

>>4550681 here.

Welcome to the group of people who suddenly figured out the game isn't as difficult as they thought it was (until you get onto scenes 7-X+ and stuff heh). I'm surprised there were other people who made the silly mistake I did.

>>4550739

Not all of us can read Japanese (and it wasn't translated when I started playing it) so I just jumped in and started shooting pictures. Although I have no idea why it took me months to actually try and take a picture while focused to realize the ability was there.

>> No.4551224

Shit sucks, man. I'm horrible at StB, I can't even get past Level 3. ;_;

>> No.4551242

Double Spoiler is a stupid name, but I am excited.

>> No.4551249
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4551249

Shoot the Bullet is a fucking masterpiece, fuck you.

>> No.4551258

>>4551242
What Touhou game doesn't have a stupid name?

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>>4551249
>Touhou game
>masterpiece

>> No.4551268

>>4551258
Mountain of Faith seems pretty normal.

>> No.4551269

>>4551258
Double Spoiler takes the cake, though. Personally, I associate it too much with those old eggman comics.

>> No.4551283

>>4551224

Too bad man. Go play Easy mode then.
キモイ

>> No.4551301

Requesting the Double Spoiler Eggman comic.

>> No.4551310

>>4551301
http://images.4chan.org/jp/src/1267818430112.png
This one?

>> No.4551321

>>4551310
That's the one, thanks.

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>>4550075
Right, this is Parsee in a Aya costume!

>> No.4551441

I'm annoyed about this too. StB sucks.

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>>4551436

>> No.4551464

>>4550069
>Bawwwww Shoot the Bullet isn't easy like MF and IN.

Why don't you shed some more tears for us you shitty secondary.

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>>4551453
Stop it, please!

>> No.4551508

>>4551464

Touhou elitism is amusing. It's like a pissing contest to see who's the biggest failure-at-life.

>> No.4551515

I love how Double Spoiler fucked the canonfags in the ass. THe fact that a couple of pixels causes this shitstorm proves that the information in Touhou is so meagre that people have to hold onto the most meaningless details, rendering any "canon" useless.

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>>4551508

>> No.4551529

>>4551464
Funny post considering how unbelievably punishing mistakes are in MOF. One death ruins your run.

>> No.4551531

>>4551515
Meaningless? I've got an elf ear fetish, you bastard.

>> No.4551534

>>4551515
Actually, I think it proves that "canon" is fucking powerful since even a few pixels changed by ZUN can make everyone rage so much.

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>>4551519

u mad?

>> No.4551675

>>4551464
So hating StB makes someone a secondaryfag? Honestly, grow up, some of us don't like the game mechanics. I find it more immersive if there's actually a story to the game.

>> No.4551683

WHERE IS TOUHOU 13 ZUN

>> No.4551689
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>>4551683
IN THE GOLDEN LAND

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>>4551675
>Touhou
>Immersive

>> No.4551703

>>4551692
I find Touhou to be quite immersive, actually. What I'd disagree with the guy you quoted on is that it's because of the story.

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>>4551692
>lol opinions

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>>4551675
You honestly play shmups for the story?

>> No.4551721

Touhou's story is pretty immersive if you're talking about the sum of all the games, official works, and the better doujins, yes.

A single game, not so much.

>> No.4551728

>>4551703
>>4551711
I think it holds together the games better. I don't find a bunch of compiled spellcards that fun to play because it just feels a lot like grindan.

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