/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I love Umineko

>>45399228
Finally i can relax in a Rika OP picture. I feel relieved. thank you, fren.

Post relaxation.

>>45399274
horrible fetish art

>>45399228
so wait theres been new stuff since that umineko one

I know what i want from Rika from now on and forth, only environmental and scenery art and much of the melancholy art. it fits her

Real thread here >>45398712

that's /a/fags for you, all those fuckers are weird dysfunctional spergs who for some reason tend to get real pissy at anyone and everyone
dunno what it is about /a/ that promotes such a cancerous culture but any time it leaks out it makes wherever it spills 10 times worse

dunno shit about /a/ cos i barely use this dogaids site, i only go on it cos i love higu/umi, but this thread has always reeked of socially awkward autists obsessed with cunny and i dont get it.

>>45399228
Battler and Keiichi were false prophets.
Rika is the true hero of Higurashi.
Ange is the true hero of Umineko.
Who will be in Ciconia's case?

well to put it simply, the main two 'people' who talk about rika and satoko and do everything they can to divert conversation to those two whilst also trying to shit on anyone and everyone for not talking solely about those two are both from /a/
if you took those two out you'd find a whole lot less conversations about lolis, almost the exact opposite some times - there's been a lot of love for the milfs of umineko historically for example
>>45399550 # >>45399605 # >>45401423 #

Wow, I thought these Generals were just plain d*scord circlejerks but now it turned out its regulars are as schizos. Well I guess being a fan of Rika was a dead give away.
I honestly feel bad for those who want to discuss the games.

>>45402284
who woke you up? i am supporting of Rika you humongous psycho
>>45402304
nice, now you're copypasting your shithole posts in here? nice

>>45402279
but the story is about sayo lol

>>45402319
kill yourself
>>45402279
and die bo*b wanker

>>45402319
sup rat, no more nigger posting for you?

>>45402319
the trans servant

>>45402419
go back to your shitcord thread, sperg >>45390184

>>45402279
I for one hope it'll be Koshka.
She's already propped as one of the most interesting characters in phase 1, while being just irrelevant enough to to fit the role of "surprise MC".
There's also her bond with Lilja and Chloe, both of which have much more going for them than Jayden or Gunhild.

>>45404389
Cute

can someone post that image of paulie from sopranos being confused by battler saying magic isn't real? also the richard dawkins image too if anyone has that one.

>>45407203
>>45406820
>>45406817
Horrible pictures, you're just like the rest of them

Looks terrible. Rid of that art and delete yourself from the existence. Stuff like this shouldnt be in here. Retarded braincum scumbag. How dare you to draw rika with this disgusting art. Filthy brain and fingers

>>45407620
>>45407203
Kill yourself smallhead fag

Why did they do it?

>>45407203
Don't have any of those but that Lambda is a massive upgrade

>>45402279
Naomi

>>45399228
>tranny expansion

I want to make an apology, im sorry for being rude towards you anons. I am sorry. I will only target the real baddies from now on. None of that schizo stuff.

>>45402279
No one cause Ciconia died

>>45408795
I was wondering why she got so much fanart compared to some of the other characters with more screntime and relevancy.

>>45409795
If you give me a kissu then I'll accept your apology.

>>45410627
Can we but without the gay part?

>>45410815
It's just a kissu, that's all, I'll wear the Battler outfit and you put on the Maria clothes or something.

BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL

>>45410867
Im sorry if my posts were hurting you
Im sorry if my posts were glued to you via hatred and misery
Im sorry

>>45410075
Because she doesn't look like a freak.

>>45407620
Girls with tiny heads are really unattractive. I know it serves to make her appear taller and put more focus on her breasts, but when I see a tiny head I get impression that she's fucking retarded. Cavewoman Satoko.

>>45410932
I wish the stakes were real so I could marry Lucifer.

Go

>>45411056
Thats why loli art like rika art will not braincumtard you

Higurashi Gou to the polls.

Men

>>45410932
I love her...

>>45411107
>>45411074
and her even m-more

I want to see a Satokoanon and a Rikaanon kiss each other while a Mionanon and a Renaanon fap in the corner as I rape an Erikaanon

>>45411056
The problem with tiny heads is that gives the impression of broad shoulders.

>uses magic
>marries a witch
>still denies magic and witches are real

I wish I had a wife as cute and sexy as Beato

>>45399228
I want to give Rika-chama an intestinal creampie!
Prodding her sigmoid colon with my glans!
spurt spurt spurt

>>45411953
did you have a stroke during episode 8 and just forgot half of it or what

>>45412802
Both

>>45412877
sasuga

>>45412877
least retarded magicfag

>>45412406
why is battler having a bath with his clothes on? is he stupid?

>>45412913
I want to make out with Erika.

>>45413024
>is he stupid
why are you questioning this?

>>45413024
>is he stupid?

>>45413067
This will end up in rape (non-intellectual)

>>45413147
Works for me, as long as Erika is in cowgirl position on top of me and she leans down for a kiss every now and then while she's bouncing on top of me I don't mind her getting aggressive.

>>45413306
excellent taste but does not understand the definition of rape

>>45413306
she will hurt you
you will not enjoy it
she will

>>45413313
Oh I do and it probably would start off as rape since I'll probably get caught off guard but I'll probably get into it very quickly, like I did with my older cousin in my childhood.

a reminder that erika is the type of girl to end up mindbreaking herself somehow, she will ALWAYS end up being the bottom bitch in the end even if you're an unfeeling meatstick like ep6 battler would've been

>>45413412
>to end up mindbreaking herself somehow
And i'll be there to comfort her, wipe her tears away and cuddle her.

Say something nice about the aunt

>>45413477
i've cummed to her

>>45413477
she's really cute with battler

>>45413480
correcting your own aunt... Rosa is next on the line

>>45413524
Can he be stopped?

>>45413675

>>45413675
No... He inherited the most Kinzo's blood, so he fucks whatever and whoever he wants.

>>45413675
a true ushiromiya cannot be stopped once he's begun

>>45413477
I'd like to be her slave.

Kill witches. Behead witches. Roundhouse kick a witch into the concrete. Slam dunk a witch baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy Beatrices. Defecate in a witches food. Launch witches into the sun. Stir fry witches in a wok. Toss witches into active volcanoes. Urinate into a witches gas tank. Judo throw witches into a wood chipper. Twist witches heads off. Report witches to the IRS. Karate chop witches in half. Curb stomp pregnant blond witches. Trap witches in quicksand. Crush witches in the trash compactor. Liquefy witches in a vat of acid. Eat witches. Dissect witches. Exterminate witches in the gas chamber. Stomp witch skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate witches in the oven. Lobotomize witches. Mandatory abortions for witches. Grind witch fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown witches in fried chicken grease. Vaporize witches with a ray gun. Kick old witches down the stairs. Feed witches to alligators. Slice witches with a katana.

>>45413477
The superior Beatrice

This is the the higurashi/rika general, umi is old and busted

>>45414249
Umi is newer than higu thoughbeit

>>45414282
Ok,

May this thread stay /calm/

just die already

>>45416054
One day all of us will perish

>>45415465
die rikaschizo fuck you

What?

Haven't visited this general in half a year and the retarded rikashitter is still posting...

Why monsterfag(probably a shitokofag) trying to fight me?

>>45417626
He looked at the OP and shat his pants in anger

>>45414167
*sigh* typical chudcel power fantasy post~
we are laughing at you in our discord btw

>>45418602
>>45417513
>>45417368
>sigh
>pic related
>schizo outburst
disgusting subhuman

>>45419129
>even tho IRL beatrice
I'm larping as a discord tranny retard

>>45419351
You don't need to LARP for that, subhuman retard.
Go back.

>>45399228
https://darkveracity.tumblr.com/post/693502993523408896/complete-umineko-timeline
Seems like a good post. But why does the author assume that Eva's ep3 flashback takes place in 1952?

Why did Umineko turn into straight garbage after chapter 2? It was very fun when it was Battler trying to deny the witches, but now that I've finished it I look back on these moments and think, it would have been much better if things didn't turn out the way they did, how can people enjoy this garbage after it just turns into a romance drama vn? I'm starting to think people just say it's good because of sunk cost fallacy, or it's just transgenders loving the story because they are trans

>>45420269
so true sister

>>45420269
>>>/trash/

>>45420312
>>45420344
>no counter-arguments

>>45420492
Umineko is a subversive mystery that gets recontextualized into a love story, if you didn't like it for that then there's no point in arguing, especially when you try and sound pretentious.

> I'm starting to think people just say it's good because of sunk cost fallacy

Yeah, this is true. You didn't like it so anyone that likes Umineko must secretly think it's trash, you've cracked the code.

It's whatever if you don't like Umineko, you do you. But >>45420269 is just calling it garbage and saying anyone that likes it probably likes it for some arbitrary reason. Of course no ones gonna take it seriously.

>>45420941
Rika makes bad crossovers.

>>45420941
which is worse, HEY LISTEN or AUAUAUAUAU?

>>45420954
you're a crosswalk

>>45412913
>magicfag
Please don't tell me you don't believe in magic

>>45420954
Not true

Behold ! !!

>>45422686
Keiichis wife is so stunning...

>>45422686
Stop embarrassing yourself

>>45402279
While Koshka has a lot going on for her, I think there's no trick in the protagonist. Miyao+Meow has too much central aspects to the story, the direct relationship with Tojirou and almost certainly Vier makes them the most important.
Maybe Meow is actually secretly more important, maybe not. Maybe they have an unknown third alter, maybe not. But being directly related to the antagonistic forces is too much to skip on. This platform will be the one to lead the story.

>>45420269
if you're talking about chapter 2 specifically, it's because ryukishi decided to hastily rewrite the entire series starting from there for some retarded reasons. look up Land of the Golden Witch and Virgilius. You can really tell that ep 3 is screwed up on a meta level and is full of meaningless filler (whereas in eps 1-2 you'd have characters drone on about bullshit but at least it was somewhat interesting). by the way my schizo theory is that the real reason he suddenly broke and rewrote anything was because he read Myth, a VN that released a few months before ep3 and was full of meta stuff and also norse mythology references, and rewrote the thing to be kewl and meta, plus the norse myth refs in virgilia's fight scene.

>>45422737
I mean, he said already the reason, and I think it's believable enough. A lot of readers were completely lost by the basic premise of Episode 2. They didn't get the whole "question the narrative shown" and just seemed to accept it and act like Battler was a fool to question it, which is why you get Virgilia in ep3 outright explaining that the scenes in the story can be lies.

If you followed Umineko when it came out, the idea that the narrative should be taken literally (so, you'd need some kind of in-story explanation for stuff like the magic swords and stake demons, even if it were just "Rokkenjinma syndrome" or something rather than just questioning the scenes themselves).

>>45422737
R07 said already the reason, and I think it's believable enough. A lot of readers were completely lost by the basic premise of Episode 2. They didn't get the whole "question the narrative shown" and just seemed to accept it and act like Battler was a fool to question it, which is why you get Virgilia in ep3 outright explaining that the scenes in the story can be lies rather than pushing things even more so into fantasy with Virgilius warping reality with his theories like he originally planned.

If you followed Umineko when it came out, the idea that the narrative should be taken literally was fairly common (so, you'd need some kind of in-story explanation for stuff like the magic swords and stake demons, even if it were just "Rokkenjinma syndrome" or something rather than just questioning the scenes themselves).

>>45422832
>A lot of readers were completely lost by the basic premise of Episode 2
I still don't understand how the fuck that happened, by about the 70th time Battler sperged out about a chessboard I understood it was all a game, and as soon as the red truth was introduced it was completely obvious to me that nothing is real

Stake vote
https://strawpoll.com/bVg8oldz2nY

>>45423647
mammon!!

>>45420269
This fuck umitrannies

Once when Battler came home on break I got into his laptop computer when he went out with his buddies. I wouldn't exactly call it porn. Breasts. He had thousands of pictures of breasts, every size and shape imaginable. And then I opened his briefcase. Victoria's Secret catalogues. He had circled some of the bras with a magic marker. He didn't circle the girl in the bra, just the breasts in the bra.

I also found a notebook in his briefcase. He doodled. Not that he could draw but I knew what they were supposed to be when he put one or two word captions under the pictures like bahama mamas, balloons, bawagos, bazongoes, bazookas, beamers, bee stings, big brown eyes, blinkers, bodacious tatas, bombs, bosom, boulders, Bristols (English--if you've never been hit on by an English dude and seen the "Aaah, Bistol" advertisements you won't get this one. Bristols is rhyming slang, short for Bristol cities, meaning titties), brown suckies, bust, Cadillac bumper bullets, and on and on and on through the rest of the alphabet.

Kissing the Rika and then havimg a blessed day

Satokei won.
Latest chapter just confirmed it what the fuck Sperg was right...

Ok?

>>45424361
I didn't care for Ange

>>45420269
just power through it the beginning of episode 2 is incredibly thematically important even though its cringe

erika sexo

>>45425744
Neither did Battler

>>45424957
If Satoko and Keiichi are revealed to be having an affair I'll finally read Reiwa

>>45420269
Umineko is actual garbage tranny shit, ignore the troons praising it in this thread and just read Higurashi instead

>>45426482
>baby's gender never stated anywhere
>billion routes where Yasu plays the role of a girl who loves a man
>IT'S A MALE IT'S A MALE IT'S A MALE IT'S A MALE BECAUSE XITTER TROONS WHO WANT TO FEEL HECKIN VALIDATED SAY SO
Die, faggot.

>>45426556
This, reminder that ryukishi said EXPLICITLY that souls are gendered and one literally cannot be born in a body with a mismatched sex.

Beatrice is Shannon/Kanon
Magic is not real, everything you see isn't really happening and is just a story written within a story.
Yasu is the incest baby of Kinzo and Beatrice the second, the daughter of Beatrice Castgonli and Kinzo
Beatrice the first and Kinzo met in the military on the old military base on rokkenjima.
Beatrice was the daughter of an Italian Facist who came to the island on a sub carrying 500 lbs of gold printed with only half of the wing of a Italian eagle due to an error which Kinzo uses as the ushiromiya logo.
Kinzo gets the Italians and Japanese to kill each other and makes it so him and Beatrice are the sole survivors
He takes Beatrice to a local Doctor named Nanjo where they become close friends
Kinzo buys the island and builds two mansions on it one for his wife and kids and one for Beatrice who he is madly in love with.
Beatrice the first dies in childbirth to Beatrice the second.
Beatrice the second looks exactly Beatrice the first which makes kinzo believes she used magic to reincarnate herself which plunges him deep into the occult and magic
After raping Beatrice the second and having her give birth to Yasu (Beatrice the golden witch/Kanon/Shannon) Beatrice the second is killed by Rosa after sneaking her out where she falls off a cliff and brutally killed.
Natsuhi is given Yasu to raise since she has been unable to give Krauss a child, where she then proceeds to push her and a maid off a cliff out of hatred for being forced to raise the baby.
Yasu survives by receives terrible damage to his genitals where emergency surgery is performed by nanjo giving her a neo-vagaina.
Genji and Nanjo keeps Yasu survival a secert out of fear of kinzo raping xir again.
Yasu is raised in an orphanage untill she's taken in as a servernt by the family when she was 6.
Yasu is eventually told the truth about her past and family by Genji where she becomes the new head of the family.
Kinzo is actually dead and has been dead for at least 2 years before the family conference begins
Yasu plans on killing the entire family since she's so mentally fucked about her gender since she doesn't know what she is.
She is madly in love with Battler and is unable to move on from him despite dating and getting engaged to George and dated Jessica as Kanon, and prepares to kill the entire family to be with him.
Sets up the mystery and gives the family a chance to solve it and gain the fortune.
The parents solve it and beat her riddle where she gives up and allows the parents the wealth.
It is then the true culprits are revealed where Kyrie and Rudolf kill the other parents except Eva and leave to go kill the rest of the kids/Servents.
Everyone is killed except Battler, Eva, and Yasu.
Battler finds Yasu bleeding out with the gold and she leads him to the hidden cave entrance with a boat waiting to take him away
Battler remembers his promise and carry yasu with him telling her he's going to kidnap her away
They leave the island together only for Yasu to tie a gold bar to her ankle and jump off the boat to kill herself
Battler jumps in after her and tries to save her only to pass out and float to the surface
Battler awakens with amnesia and is hit by a car driven by a woman named ikkuko.
She is a novelst who helps him recover in her mansion and helps him recover his memory by writing mysteries about the murders and what happen on rokkenjima
Battler eventurally remembers what and who he is but chooses not to go meet his little sister ange
He lives with Ikkuko for about 30 years
Finally meets his little sister and apologizes for leaving her for so long
The end

There you go I summarized the story of Umineko so now you don't have to read this tranny garbage

>>45422737
>it's because ryukishi decided to hastily rewrite the entire series starting from there for some retarded reasons.
Proof?

>>45426556
>>45426583
Ywnbaw tranny freak

>>45426620
Proof: my ass

>>45426629
>ywnbaw
I know, I am a manly man, and troonshippers secondaries like digibro should ACK.

>>45424957
Context? Is it finally getting interesting?

If this retard knew Kinzo wanted to rape his daughter, why didn't he put on a blonde wig and presented himself to Kinzo, it's not like that schizo could tell a difference? Dumb furniture

>>45426713
Maybe he did.

>>45426713
If he thought that Kinzo might want to rape his daughter's child, then why would he specifically make sure it was raised as a female that Kinzo would be more likely to want to fuck even if it was born a male? And why would he have that child raised in the orphanage specificallly where the Ushiromiya get their servants from, thus ensuring one day that Kinzo would meet his progeny? Because he's retarded.

>>45426482
You got so little attention that you had to reply to yourself with the same bait again, pathetic.

>>45422696
>>45426629
>>45426649
>>45426471
>>45424361
>45424957
can you kill yourself?

Cute Rika without the shipping cancer

>>45424957
>>45422696
>>45422686
>not a single shiotko pic
>they rather be deleted or shitposted
you're making your case of being not a shitoko fag very good. You don't even care about her just for bullshit shitposting and mental illness

>>45426556
Mentally ill /pol/ trannies will never learn basic reading comprehension.

>>45426620
d- do you not fucking know? jesus christ, these are the fucking people defending umiunko, people who barely understand it or are aware of what happened with it. i told you exactly that to look up you retard, go read it

>>45427518
Anon just asked for proof, jesus christ stop projecting so hard you mouthbreathing retard

Teehee, me and RIka kissing.

>>45427372
Nasufag OUT.
This is a 07GOD thread.

>>45427518
I asked for proof that the entire series was rewritten and your "proof" was that EP3 was rewritten. Now you're shitting your pants because I called you out. Is this the autistic Kanonfag?

Fingering Rika without her boyfriend finding out in class...

Seducing Shion after school without Satoshi knowing....

>>45427960
he talks about how elements from the planned ep 3 were spread out throughout the later episodes. erika was created after virigilius was scrapped. no fucking shit the series was rewritten after that point.

Finding Rena kyute and taking her to my home...

Giving Satoko a different kind of nii-nii to enjoy...

>>45428096
If elements from the original EP3 were still used in used in other episodes then it's more likely the broad strokes of the story weren't rewritten. Virgilius could have ended up playing the same role as Erika.

>>45428086
He's unconscious how would he find out?

>>45428223
doing it in front of his comatose body of course

>>45428483
>doing it in front of his comatose body of course

>>45428483
Shion doesn't need your help for that

>>45428542
Woah, a new Ciconia character!

>>45427667
This!

>>45427343
>>45427334
>>45427326
>>45427324
Mentally ill

>>45426618
Wow that sounds like shit

>>45429196
Rika Schizophrenia (the holy illness) >>> Satokei High Functioning Autism (90% higher chance of transitioning)

>>45428602
Thank you for this image, I love Shion

>>45423416
There's a difference between understanding that it's a game and understanding that some of the scenes just never occurred. Like how the whole scene in episode 1 with Kanon and Genji talking in front of Eva and Hideyoshi's door literally just doesn't happen at all.

>>45429196
holy schizo, you're off by one.

>>45426618
The story in itself is bad, but the meta metathinking is excellent.
People should read Umineko to learn the basics to logic and understanding reality and the threads on which all of human society is based on.

I've never seen someone explain mental illnesses in such a simple to digest way as Ryukishi did except for Dostoevskij.

>>45429728
>The story in itself is bad
It's not, don't let shitposters get to you that easily.

>>45429754
I didn't like it, not because it was poorly written or anything, I just felt like Battler the whole time, and reading it evoked in me all sorts of negative emotions.
If I could go back to before reading Umineko and being my dumber self, I'd be a happier person.

>>45429728
>thinks meta garbage is good
Lol

>>45429907
I'm midwit overthinker, so yes?

>>45429728
>but the meta metathinking is excellent
It really isn't. Hundreds of other works have done metashit better than Umineko. Umineko is just one example of many as is far from the best.

>>45429948
It's only possible to enjoy Metashit the first couple times you find it. After that you just get sick of it since it's a lazy way for the author to engage with the reader. So if Umineko was the first meta work you read you'll like that part of it, if you've read other meta shit before it you'll hate it.

>>45429988
Why is it lazy to engage in ideological thinking and deconstruction of ways of thinking?

>>45430227
You're confusing having the thing with quality of execution of the thing. Umineko's execution of it's meta elements is sloppy and very much lazy.

>>45429988
I went into Umineko skeptical for this exact reason and it's by far my favourite work to incorporate meta elements.

>>45430602
How so?

>>45429387
I mean I guess so, it's just different for every reader I guess. The meta stuff and only Battler being real just clicked for me, mainly because I already had a schizo Kinzo-is-dead (or should be) theory ever since the very beginning and that gave me an instant out for it. Guess the solving process really is just different for every reader though, I instantly understood some stuff but didn't figure out the Beatrice thing until the middle of dawn

Why are umifags so fucking pretentious and obnoxious???

because you touch yourself at night

>>45430692
I-it just is OK?!

>>45431318
Because they're midwits who think they're smart since it's "meta". They're in the same vein as armchair intellectuals who do nothing but huff their own farts all day not to mention most umineko fans are actually mentally ill trannies

What's up with this reddit invasion?

>>45432418
discord*

>>45432418
Umineko was trending on Twitter and this place was brought up again

Why people who fag over particular umi characters hate umi?

>>45432866
It's just the discord admin trying to goad people into joining his server by shitting up the thread.

Does 07th do any sport or work out?
I do.

>>45431318
cause you made it up nigger

>>45433023
yes i do regularly

>>45431302
Battler isn’t real. He’s dead the whole time.
You didn’t read Umineko. Nothing clicked for you.

Now it's Tamaki time!

Rei isn't SatoKei
if someone still says SatoKei shit about Rei
just annoying

>>45426649
Keiichi invited the club members and their kids to his house to discuss a plan about the murders and how to avoid it. The chapter ends with Keiichi standing up and announcing it's time to tell them the real reason they gathered here going straight to Keitarou.
>>45433337
>Satoko sits Next to Keiichi and blushes in his direction.
>When Everyone looks at Keitarou smiling Satoko is the only person to Look at Keiichi instead
>When tamaki asks why Keiichi hasn't moved in yet Satoko cuts her off and explains that he's really busy and that he's too popular to just disappear out of tokyo
It's over bro seriously, The writing has been on the walls for months now Satokei is offically going to become the only offical Canon romance between the club members
>>45433290
I fear that Tamaki so much... Her lack of character or of having any depth could be used as an excuse to have it be that she's actually Keiichis daughter but that would only happen if Ryukishi is a massive hack and decided last second to make all the Sakiko = Keiichi daughter build up into red herrings

I only care about Trolltrice

>>45434359
We know troon.

>>45433512
Rikafriend kill yourself

>>45434795
speedreader faggot

>>45433512
>Rena chuckles with kihiro because her 2 sons stop fighting and enjoy the meal
it's KeiRena
>Mion sits next to Keiichi
>She is pleased about Keitaro's new club because her son with Keiichi keeps her spirit
it's KeiMi
>Rika always argues about Fate theory with keitaro when she is drunk because she needs to teach her son
it's KeiRi
>Keiichi married with a girl from "Tokyo"
it's Keiichi x Nomura
>Ooishi turned into a woman by Some Oyashiro item, then married with Keiichi
it's KeiKura
>Chie retired teacher because She married with Keiichi
it's KeiChi
I hope you realize your headcanon isn't canon fast

Keitoshi

>>45435243
>>Rena chuckles with kihiro because her 2 sons stop fighting and enjoy the meal
Fucking retarded cope, there is nothing there that implies Rena is Keitarou mother. Even then It's already been confirmed thanks to the Character Bio that Keiichi only has ONE son meaning Keiichi x Rena is BEYOND dead plus we already saw her husband in the manga. Try again dumbass.
>Mion sits next to Keiichi
and she pays almost no attetion to him unlike Satoko who stares at keiichi while everyone stares at Keitarou.
>She is pleased about Keitaro's new club because her son with Keiichi keeps her spirit
What the fuck are you even trying to say here retard? The difference from what you're trying to say and what I've been posting is that I post ACTIONS the characters are doing and already confirmed facts about the characters like Sakiko being born with the last name Houjou and not Kimiyoshi and Satoko LOOKING at Keiichi Blushing while everyone else looks at Keitarou and how she awnsers for Keiichi when Tamaki interrogates Keiichi about why he hasn't moved in. THIS IS SHIT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPEND not this headcanon garbage you're trying to say I'm doing.
>>Rika always argues about Fate theory with keitaro when she is drunk because she needs to teach her son
Fucking retarded, IF Keitarou was Rikas son don't you think she would've brought it up once since we literally see her POV and her thoughts in the story and say her son would be able to fix this?
>Keiichi married with a girl from "Tokyo"
>it's Keiichi x Nomura
>Ooishi turned into a woman by Some Oyashiro item, then married with Keiichi
>it's KeiKura
>Chie retired teacher because She married with Keiichi
>it's KeiChi
Pure shitposting garbage hang yourself.
I genuinely cannot wait until you hang yourself and livestream it once Satokei is confirmed. If you are able to disprove EVERY FACT I've said then maybe I'll concede but you can't so all you can do is shitpost and say it's headcanon you have NOTHING to argue with. I'm waiting you piece of shit coward TRY TO PROVE ME WRONG

>>45433512
R07 already wrote an end of volume note about how none of the club ended up together in this fragment and he wouldn't want pairing up one of them while leaving out the others. But you insist on ignoring that over and over. Can't wait for you turn against the story when it turns out Ryukishi wasn't lying in a freaking volume note.

It's not even a throw away interview, it's something that will be included with every reprint of that one oniokoshi volume.

>>45435427
What the hell? Rat..

>>45435525
>R07 already wrote an end of volume note about how none of the club ended up together in this fragment and he wouldn't want pairing up one of them while leaving out the others.
>Ryukishi has never lied in an interview before
Also this doesn't disprove shit retard all this means is that at this moment Satoko and Keiichi aren't together, which is true in the sense they aren't living together and are offically husband and wife. This does NOT MEAN Keiichi never dated/impregnated Satoko which led to Sakiko. If they WERE together offically then the entire story would not be happening. You know for a fucking fact how Ryukishi loves to twist his words to hide a hidden truth, now try to tell me how i'm wrong when I just thoroughly FUCKED your shit little argument untill it's a quivering cum covered mess laying on the floor fuckhead
>>45435559
Fuck you rikanigger I'll be waiting for your reaction when i fucking WIN

>>45435525
What the hell, rat replier..

>>45435583
Rikafriend..

>>45435617
Why are you calling me rikafriend? I will kill you you evil creature

Rikafriend, shitoko a fucking shit..

>>45435525
Why youre replying to yourself?

>No ACTUAL arguments
That's what I thought you little punk weak coward bitches, keep crying and screaming your little pathtic head off about Satokei. I can't WAIT to see you hang in just 2 more weeks. I'm going to bed so if I don't respond it doesn't mean SHIT you pussy cowards just remember I fucking WON

>>45426556
Why was Natushi so accepting of the fact that the Man from Nineteen Years Ago was a man? Why would Lion made this point about cooking in regards to gender?
Lion is a man. It's possible that Yasu was transitioned by Genji as a baby after the accident and grew up only knowing themselves as a woman, but the baby was born male

The thing is no one wants to argue with you anymore, keigayfag. You will goal post evade and resort to shitflinging with people presenting counter argument to your argument that you always lose against

>>45436046
>Why was Natushi so accepting of the fact that the Man from Nineteen Years Ago was a man?
Episode 7 says in other versions of the scene it's a woman from 19 years ago rather than a man.

That said, it does feel like R07 several times defaulted to the child being male and then just threw stuff afterwards to keep the ambiguity.

Would female Battler like big, fat testicles?

>>45436569
male battler does, so I think it'd be reversed

>>45433512
>It's over bro seriously, The writing has been on the walls for months now Satokei is offically going to become the only offical Canon romance between the club members
I really don't give a shit who K1 fucks in some random fragment multiverse, but do you even realize that R07 making this literal dick move would cause the few percent of remaining fans who still believe in him and care to demand that he commit instant seppuku? Yes, it would be glorious to see the outrage it would provoke in those few for a few days, but the cost of doing so would mean the official death of the entire WTC, which... ... ... actually... ... ... wouldn't hurt. You know what, I've actually changed my mind completely, if R07 wants to destroy it all, let him burn it all to the ground. If he's unable to produce anything better than his own humiliation, it's better than the garbage he's been producing for the last few years. So, if you can hear me, R07, go ahead and implement all your ideas, however crazy or stupid. There's no one sane here to stop you or correct you. Show all the critics how to burn goodwill in the author's creative abilities, that's what you've always done best. All that's left anyway are the people who want a laugh at your expense, because everyone else capable of independent thought has long since lost interest in the mysterious world you may have once built.

>>45436787
Say hello to shitcord from me

>looks at this and then proceeds to talk about cocks and balls
what the fuck is wrong with you, FAGGOT?

>>45435427
Pure schizophrenia

Rika won

>>45436874
Good!

>>45436046
>picrel
This is the first time I actually see the tweet that's misquoted so frequently to "prove" Lion's gender, and it doesn't even say that she likes cooking *despite* her gender. Hilarious.

>>45436046
>Why was Natushi so accepting of the fact that the Man from Nineteen Years Ago was a man?
Natsuhi never knew the baby's gender.
>Why would Lion made this point about cooking in regards to gender?
All that post says is that Lion is a good cook, bad at english, and opposes inequality. That doesn't "prove" shit. These points are unrelated to each other.
Lion is a woman, and no amount of coping on your part will change that fact.
And assuming you're not just baiting, you can't 'sneakily transition' a kid until early adulthood without it ever noticing that something strange is going on, nor would Genji have any incentive to do so. It's a ridiculous idea only an american mind could come up with.

>>45437347
i suppose i shouldn't be surprised, the wiki's full of 'could be's and 'implied's to try and push their narrative, what's a few incorrect translations on top?

>>45437347
Why would gender be brought up at all in the subject of Lion's talents otherwise?

>>45438526
It isn't, reread the tweet.

>>45436271
> in other versions of the scene it's a woman from 19 years ago rather than a man
Do you remember when abouts that was? I don't remember all the details
>>45437485
You can transition a young child, and they would know something was wrong, hence Yasu's body incapable of love and the stuff from the manga about her not having started her period yet.
>>45438844
It was. There is no real reason to randomly mention men and cooking after saying you yourself cook unless you're a man.
I'm not even 100% convinced Yasu was born male, there's just quite a few points that make it a possibility

There's also no real reason why this character exists, yet he just does.

>>45439262
Had George survived he would have made the most reasonable heir

>>45439217
I think it's this line.

>>45434795
t. keiichi crosdressing and getting a buttolug jammed in his ass

>>45440142
I think what he means is that Beatrice (as seen up til then) as a possible Lion is treated as a woman, whereas Episode 5's The Man From Nineteen Years Ago is a possible Lion that is treated as a man

>>45440142
amazing how ryukishi spells it out this clearly in the story and yet to this day people still pretend there's a definitive answer

>>45440209
>I think what he means is that Beatrice (as seen up til then) as a possible Lion is treated as a woman, whereas Episode 5's The Man From Nineteen Years Ago is a possible Lion that is treated as a man
It's pretty clear he's only referencing Beatrice at the end ("strictly speaking, it started all the way back in the very first game").

>>45440228
I guess we are no different from FNAFfags, huh?

Phase 2 still isn't a thing...?

>>45438844
>gendurr isunt brought uuupppp, reah duh tweeeett
>the tweet: everyone should be in the kitchen regardless of gender
of course the uminigger is literally just illiterate

>>45440961
R07 is aiming for a 2045 release

God love this series but hate the community, the fact people actually find the main story of Ciconia to be interesting makes me want to vomit. Feels like Ryoshiki07's also lost for words that people actually like the main overcluttered gruel he made specifically to be ignored like he's done with other shit in the past which is why we still dont have phase 2.

Rika's legs...

>>45441518

It feels like what R07 messed up with Ciconia were the dynamics of the main cast (thankfully if this follows his usual pattern Miyao is at least going to share the spotlight with someone else later on, if not outright kicked aside). I like the conspiracy plot.

>>45441564
Make way for the secret true protag

every now and then i'm reminded why i still check twitter for art

>>45441677
It's amazing how many artists still regularly draw umi and higu art decades after release.
There's no other VN series aside from maybe F/SN with that dedicated a fanbase.

>>45436858
they are faggots

>>45442086
WTC has a lot of fans for life which definitely says something about R07's writing. I've loved 07th works for years and I don't think I'll stop loving it anytime soon.

>>45440961
Too busy with Silent Hill F.

>>45442086
The difference is that Fate is no different from capeshit while When They Cry is truly unique.
It's Eastern Marvelslop. Don't you fucking dare compare R07's works with that.

>>45442958
Oh, I didn't compare the two of them on a qualitative level. Just the amount of fanart they receive.
Although Fate's numbers are vastly buffed by F/GO.

>>45442946
Thats just a stupid horror game that are no longer than 8 hours, rest is exploration and puzzles
ryukishi is just finding excuses to not work

>>45442958
>Don't you dare
lol get over yourself. The only difference is that TM had soul but sold out at the right time, WTC had soul but Ryushitty sold it to the devil.
I can't comprehend someone on /jp/ holding one over the other to that extent. Then again you're probably a /v/tard hating "popular thing"

>>45443256
Imo Nasu was smarter. He let the tranny shit for secondary characters, not the main character. Nasu also had an spin off for the yuri shit, and made a lore opened enough to not contradict each other.

Ryu07 fucked up and shat his pants and brought more tranny shit with Miyao and Mew, shit nobody likes, either go full fujo or full waifu, the audience doesnt like trans shit for one of the main characters.

>>45442958
Based, Fate reads like its written for toddlers. I'd take r07's writing 100/100 times, too many people in this gen are obsessed with trannies

>>45443285
>He let the tranny shit for secondary characters
Huh? Saber is an ftm tranny, while the only ""trans"" character in WTC so far is Miyao, whose problem is a split personality (or rather shared consciousness with a female) instead of real gender dysphoria.

>>45443285
mental illness, stop letting trannies live rent free in your head.

this kind of thing is inevitable when the entire west is obsessed with trannies. Ryukishi making of one yasu's plotlines revolve around the question of their gender resulted in trannies making up a good portion of the western fanbase damning Umineko to be associated with this and it would only get worse if it ever received more attention

>>45443447
We're calling futa hijinks ftm now? Gender theory rot your brain?

>>45443517
>resulted in trannies making up a good portion of the western fanbase
You vastly overestimate how many trannies there are. It's a vocal minority of /qa/ refugees spamming tranny shit in regards to Umineko (not like any actual trannies would browse 4chan), blowing the numbers out of proportion.
You didn't see anyone on this website even questioning Yasu's gender for the years of Umineko discussion following Twilight's release, because of how irrelevant it is in the grand scheme of things.

>Threads are so dead and trash we have to resort to talking about fate to stay alive
LMAO

>>45443561
We all know Shiki can kill witches, but can he cut the red truth?

>>45443558
Fate is just retatded marvelslop coomerbait historical/mythical fanfiction. It's the most Reddit tier shit ever.

>>45443561
Is it just me does anybody else find Kohaku to be a better written character than Yasu? Her motivation is simple but far more compelling than why Yasu wanted to blow the whole island off.

>>45443560
I was mostly talking about the fanbase outside of this site and im not saying every fan is a troon but the ratio of them in this fanbase is extremely high compared to most series for obvious reasons

>>45443644
Which is funny because nobody and I mean NOBODY in the Asian fandom discusses the trans stuff when int comes to Umineko. They view it more as a "niche theories" among the Western fandom.

>>45443656
no it's just trolling lol
ryukishi is a troll
isn't it obvious?

>>45443656
yeah i noticed that too. we in the west were cursed with an increasing amount of mental cases who grab at anything to validate themselves

>>45443656
The same is with eastern European wtc fandom, nobody on 2ch brings up tranny shit when discussing Umineko

>>45443680
I'm from Korea and until I proposed the whole Yasu "trans" theory (not sure if you can even call person like David Reimer "trans tho) to the Korean fandom most of them refused to even entertain the idea that Yasu might have been a boy.

>>45443709
And while we're at it. Yasu can't or shouldn't be trans. Like wtf why are people even calling this poor mess of a character trans?

Hasn't R07 when asked in an interview is Yasu was trans or not said that he doesn't want to outright confirm or deny it and leave it up to interpretation, which was already obvious considering he deliberately made Lion's gender ambigious. I don't get why this tranny shit matters so much, who fucking cares. There's so much more to Umineko than this pointless debate

>>45443761
Yeah, it's a cat box

>>45443656
That's because the eastern asian alliance isn't as shaken by identity politics and liberalism as the west, namely America.
It becomes apparent when comparing the average korean/japanese movie or TV-show with their netflix or Hollywood equivalents, which place 'diversity' and political appeal before quality nowadays.
>>45443742
>why are people even calling this poor mess of a character trans
I don't know about twitter or tumblr, but you can be sure that anyone on this website who calls her a man is doing so in an attempt to farm easy (You)'s, or to discredit a famous visual novel while shilling his own favorites.

>>45443794
I rather meant it as, you wouldn't call David Reimer "tans", right? That would be messed up.

>>45443560
Again, this is like Five Nights At Freddy's autists obsessing over the gender of the kid posessing Mangle's animatronic when it's clearly left ambiguous so autists obsess over that instead of shit that matters. This autismal obsession is truly loveless and has nothing to do with the plot or the message it tries to convey. Trannies hijacking it into "muh hecking gender dysphoria" (any sane person would certainly feel dissonance with their body if they learn that it's missing something it was meant to have, like genitals) is incredibly insulting to the work cause Yasu never wanted to cripple "themselves" sexually like a troon, but the opposite. Yasu didn't particularly want to be a boy or a girl, but just an abled bodied, whole person. If anything, the closest Yasu could be compared to is to the tragedy that were Castrati during Rennaissance Italy, cause that's what Yasu is: an involuntary eunuch due to unlucky circumstances. All autogynephiles that are hijacking Yasu's irredeemable tragedy of not being whole should take a long walk on the short plank. Stop sabotaging my Japanese cyber-literature and die. The anti-tranny reaction is understandable, but obsessing over it also distracts you from the point of the work. Just be aware of this ideological poisoning of the work.

Screw it. Anime Natsuhi.

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>>45443833

Thoughts?

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>>45443869

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>>45443880
How many nappy headed little brats do you think get to suck on those every night?

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>>45443890
Kill yourself moroccan.

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>>45443890
at least a dozen otherwise it'd be a waste

Kill yourself nigger horny spammer

>>45443794
I think on the subject of raising a mutilated boy as female (if that is the true case) as identity politics is the wrong way of looking at things.
Old Japan was less conservative in the sense of a strict moral code and more conservative in the sense that you appeared to uphold a strict moral code. So while aborting an inconvenient baby (or switching your wife's stillbirth with your mistress' live birth) or raising a damaged boy as a girl instead of raising a 'failed' male, is an acceptable choice for a family trying to look good.
So the Japanese audience can take something like Yasu possibly being born male in stride

>>45443823
the tranny shit ruins many discussion
See Bridget from Guilty Gears, one single tweet was enough to ruin GG discussions forever

>>45443617
Fate got b& on rebbit for lolikino

Reminder that George hid Battler's letter to Shannon up his ass

>>45445396
I need Rikakino

>>45445883
Rika seduced Keiichi during one of the loops and I can't be convinced otherwise

>>45443824
is this a new natsuhi model?

Kneel for your lord

>>45446050
Reminder that small bombs were never denied in red

>>45443231
>rest is exploration and puzzles
Which he might be involved with, it's environmental storytelling. In fact, there's a hell of a lot more to writing the story for a videogame than just making a script for the characters to follow.
Still hope he continues Phase 2 soon though, if he followed a regular WTC schedule it would have finished by now.

>>45446135
I'm holding out hope for a surprise christmas release.

>>45445396
it's hilarious this is what got them nuked, not jack or abby or shuten or basically any other loli given fate has a tendency to have little girls in their underwear

>>45443633
most characters are better written than yasu because yasu was very badly written

>>45443633
Kohaku is definitely the best character inTsuki but Yasu is better, comparing most Tsuki characters to Umi characters is hardly a contest if you ask me. R07 blows Nasu out of the water

>>45445895
How easily could she rape him?

>>45445895
no way she didn't at least once

Rika makes this face when looking at ______

>>45446085
No, but Battler made that theory and he was confirmed as incompetent in red.

>>45447019
With her syringe and concoctions?
Effortlessly
Without?
She might be in for a surprise when fighting a child reawakens K1's old habits

>>45447075
Those two are no mutually exclusive

>>45447115
Maybe but it’s still incompetence.
That said Gohdatrice is canon.

>>45447067
a wine cellar

>>45447067
rikaschizo aka rikafag makes this face when looking at children

>>45447067
Keitarou Maebara, Keiichi's only son, she's going to drain him dry no matter what.

>>45447067
Satoko's cock.

>>45447067
tell us more

>>45447067
ME
In that one loop where I break into her class and get naked yelling I love Rika, sexually.

>>45447602
why does she have one

>>45447999
because anon's a fag

>>45447999
She landed in the futa kakera.

I wonder which schizo will be the first one to make the new thread

>>45448910
silly anon, don't you know? they made a new thread 7 hours ago

>>45449047
Jessica's kinda cute but something about the way she acted around Kanon irritated me, her nervousness against his cool indifference to his master I suppose

>>45449185
jessica was a young maiden in love, too bad the only man she was around that wasn't triple her age or related to her was in fact related to her and not even a man at all

>>45449194
Being George and Jessica is suffering when your dipshit cousin can show back up on his metaphorical horse and take away both your loves at once

Phase 2 announcement incoming at the Video Game Awards.

>>45449443
Do you have anything to say for yourself?