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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
PC English Patch (Partial Translation):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru complementary short story):
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8887-An-Adventure-of-First-Love-%28Mahoutsukai-no-Yoru-Short-Story%29-Translation

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860991
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7899136/1/Notes-The-Legend-of-the-Gun-God
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs
Clock Tower 2015:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UnWI7x2XpL8PFE9OuGDjY8qJ0nW7WsVm/view?usp=sharing

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

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>> No.43859918

TsukiR worth reading?

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>>43859918
no

>> No.43860087

>>43859918
Do you like Tsukihime?

>> No.43860394

>>43860087
I've never read Turkeyhnadle

>> No.43860397

>>43860394
Do you like listening to Tsuda mumble?

>> No.43860463

>>43860397
maybe?

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*ruins your franchise*

>> No.43860741
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*redeems your franchise*

>> No.43860780

>>43860741
>heavens feel but hornier (the original was literal porn)

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finished mahoyo the other day. sick. why is kuma such a midget fuck.

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Wait so according to this Inner sea of the planet = canopy covering the cosmos = the moon?

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What exactly is this referring to? Is Akiha involved in yakuza business?

>> No.43861103

>>43861001
They're filthy rich. You don't get that way being clean. Oni have ties to the powers that be in the nation so you'd expect all kinds of shit. I don't know if I'd say Yakuza in particular though but wouldn't be surprised.

>>43860992
I think it's more like, they're in the inner sea. But who knows, the IS obviously has close ties to Arc and thus the CM. I don't think they'd be one in the same though.

>> No.43861107

>>43860992
Ah, but the canopy is definitely the moon at least.

>> No.43861139

>>43861001
Gouto is yakuza.

>> No.43861158

When is TM Ace likely? August?

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>reading the Sakura part of HF
Skip

>> No.43861194

>>43861158
Probably.

>> No.43861222

Is capslock going to be in melty for the first time?

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Ugly nonfunny vampire.

>> No.43861244

>>43861222
It's inevitable but who knows how far in the future that will be.

>> No.43861259

>>43861240
Cute funny vampire*

>> No.43861260

>>43861222
We're going to at least see
>Len
>SHIKI
>Chaos
>Red Akiha
come far side.
Maybe
>Mio
>Goutou
Any Red Garden surprises as well like MAKIHISA IS STILL ALIVE GASP
and then some other TM characters maybe
>Touko
>Lugh
>Redman
so on

>> No.43861267

>>43861260
Sion in 1 month obviously.

>> No.43861271

>>43861260
Doctor boobs too.

>> No.43861287

>>43861260
I still think Jester for sF release.

>> No.43861300

>>43861287
Tsuki Jester would maybe be interesting.

>> No.43861305

>>43861300
I don't know about INTERESTING, per se. He's just the same kinda wacko woohoo vampire that Roa is.

>> No.43861330

>>43860647
In retrospect, Extra was quite good in concept. The gameplay sucks but I liked the characters and story.

>> No.43861396

>>43861305
Roa's way better. Jester not being a simp to a servant might be decent.

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Best ass in Type Moon

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>>43861537

>> No.43861543

>>43861540
A Literal who.

>> No.43861550

>>43861543
why is there a secondary in a T-M general?

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>>43861543
>he doesn't know his TM
why are you here?

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*succeeds your franchise*

>> No.43861584

>>43861543
dont respond to gacha niggers, just ignore them so that they go back to their generals

>> No.43861616

>>43861584
I still don’t know who that generic hentai character is kek.

>> No.43861628

>>43861584
getting insecure and defensive over fanart is kinda pathetic

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The brave heroines

>> No.43861733

>>43861616
most fgo characters look like korean mmo rejects

>> No.43861742

don't reply to bait

>> No.43861812

>>43861616
It's supposed to be Queen Zenobia as a servant.

>> No.43861834

seeing a post you don't like and spamming "GUYZZZ DON'T REPLY" is the most butthurt reply to bait you can possibly have, you know that right

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>>43860826

because ma ho yoes needed a moe character and she was born either that or koyama got inspired from Taiga Aisaka

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so now that tsuki r has been officially translated into Engrish isn't it any good without spoilers...

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Create bait because you’re bored

>> No.43861908

I like Shuten

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>Nasu and Takeuchi make their first Russian character
>he's a white haired schizo named Slav
What the FUCK did they mean by this?

>> No.43862533

>>43861260
We'll see Nanaya too. He'll be SHIKI's first conversation, 2nd will be Roa.

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>>43862412
This guy is Polish. Basically slavs in Nasu land are all albino. I wonder what's a lore behind it

>> No.43862793

>>43862781
Slavs are usually white haired in anime.
I don't know why.

>> No.43862802

>>43862793
The snow.

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>> No.43864137

>>43862793
you mean slavs don't have flowing white hair in real life?

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>> No.43864498

>>43862412
He is not their first Russian character.

>> No.43864506

>>43864187
>No Arc gf
why even live?

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what was she cooking

>> No.43864625

>>43861540
God what an awful design. It's incredible how averse Takeuchi et al. are to creating tall female characters with modest assets, like Kukulcan (one of the few good designs in FGO). Everything else is just this utter crap.

>> No.43865474

>>43861540
>not Bradamante
One job.

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>>43864625
Based ORT enjoyer

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>>43865964
#NotmyORT

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I hate Arach so much it's unreal
Noel too

>> No.43866566

>>43866545
But Kohaku, Arach is a vital component of your master plan in the remake.

>> No.43866592

Remake or Original?

Defend your stance.

>> No.43866629

>>43866592
both

>> No.43866660

>>43866592
remake is a sequel so yeah

>> No.43866668

>>43866592
Both

Because Arach is OG Satsuki reincarnation throught time and multiverse

>> No.43866706

>>43866592
I choose both.

>> No.43866711

>>43866592
Remake is entertaining but it lacks the soul of the original. Too much gachatrash contamination has bled into Tsukihime. I think the remake will be forgotten.

>> No.43866755

>>43866592
Remake because it looks better

>> No.43866782

>>43866592
Remake is better and we're missing part 2

>> No.43866792

>>43866592
Remake because it's not a doujin game.

>> No.43866861

>>43866592
Remake because Shiki’s voice acting makes it more enjoyable.

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>>43866792

>> No.43867045

>>43866711
>gachatrash contamination has bled into Tsukihime
such as?

>> No.43867059

>>43867045
did you miss the part in Ciel's route where half of the chapters are literally just endless powerlevel fight scenes?

>> No.43867109

Shiki topping Shirou

>> No.43867124

>>43867059
i concede for the true ending, but otherwise no.

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>>43866545
For Arach I leave my judgment for Red Garden when there will be her true reveal. As for Noel I unironically think she was great addition to the story. She brings this "When they Cry" type horror to the table and more character development for Ciel. Her pseudo route in TL and Shiki actually pulling "I can fix her" was fun too

>> No.43867152

>>43867145
>"When they Cry" type horror
Anon you're embarrassing me.

>> No.43867171

Lancer topping Archer

>> No.43867316

>>43867145
I like how she dropped her panties when Nanaya Shiki killed that DA.

>> No.43867380

Gilgamesh topping Kirei

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New tweet about Iori's servant and I just want to ask someone who speaks moon runes if the Japanese tweet actually indicates his gender like the google translate suggests or if the English tweet, that is still hiding his gender, close enough?

>> No.43867437

>>43867418
No gender specified

>> No.43867440

>>43867418
$10 says it's a girl pretending to be a dude and failing in standard shounen anime fashion

>> No.43867445

>>43867437
Dang I was hoping they has slipped up, thanks anyway anon.
>>43867440
I really hope not but that is a really safe bet.

>> No.43867449

>>43867440
And Iori will be extremely surprised

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>>43861330
Same but with Fate/Extella Link

>>43860826
i unironically enjoyed the cluedo side content of the game more than the Main Storyline, probably won't be the only one here.

>> No.43867569

>>43861908
I love Shuten

>> No.43867597

I think I hate all of the Melty OCs except Nanaya and Miyako

>> No.43867606

>>43867597
>Melty OCs

>> No.43867611

>>43867606
Yeah, Nanaya is from Tsuki kind of but the Melty one is like Len's fantasy of him, right?

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>>43867532
Because of this sprite, my EOP ass thought that she was a central part of the story and affiliated with MA, for years. I eagerly waited for her debut in the story.

>> No.43867632

>>43867615
That's funny considering the interview where Nasu admits she was the latest addition to the game because they realised they didn't have a moe character or something.

>> No.43867640

Rider topping Shirou

>> No.43867641

>>43867611
I wouldn't call him OC considering KT.

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>>43867615
Pretty sure she'll have a bigger presence in Mahoyo 2. I wouldn't mind her replacing Soijuro in the main storyline.

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>>43867675
>Replacing best boy with dumb midget
Shut up

>> No.43867887

>>43867825
meh, he is just a slightly more cooler version of hakuno or ritsuka

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>> No.43868115

Neco-Arc topping (You)

>> No.43868268

MIDGET KUMA

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Not even worth a reply.

>> No.43868441

>https://wiki.nrvnqsr.com/index.php?title=Special:Log&offset=&limit=500&type=newusers&user=&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&subtype=

Someone from BL was so asshurt because people said here that Arc is shit, he spammed 1000 accounts talking about Arc.
And now you will claim that Arcfags are sane.

>> No.43868448

>>43868441
BL doesn't care about /tmg/

>> No.43868488

No matter how much you post on here no one is gonna care about the shit you post. You and your ilk are fucking pathetic holy shit.

>> No.43868512

>>43868441
How is that an Arcfag.

>> No.43868575

Both Arc and Ciel are kinda shit.

>> No.43868579

Roa is also stated by Narbareck to be a 1 in 10 years genius just like Shiki. On the other hand Roa never stated Ciel's body had potential that matched his original self.
I wonder if this means Roa was nerfed or Ciel was buffed compared to the OG.

>> No.43868692

>>43868579
Talent is vague. Roa is far more skilled, scholarly and technically proficient than Ciel. Like you can't even compare them with how Roa is a master whose researched all sorts of shit to where he can shit out AoG tricks for Nero to learn and figure out how to inherit principles, reincarnate, agelessness etc. She probably has far more magical circuits but it was never said in OG that Roa was better than her in that regard if I remember right. I doubt SHIKI has better magical capacity but he still says he's his best despite being rank VI for reasons(Probably his Oni mutations and eyes of life?) Once Roa became a DA after Arc drank his blood he stood at the top of the DA(whatever that means regarding his rank). Not every DA after him was of the same potential for being a vampire.

>> No.43868739

>>43868488
take your discord drama back where it came from

>> No.43868776

>>43868739
Seems like you know more about that shit more than me. I don’t know what they’re trying to do.

>> No.43868814

>>43868575
Based, ROA is true jewel of Tsukihime. Also Zelretch and Vlov/Chaos.

>> No.43868879

Is the Remake comedy shit or am I just jaded?
I remember laughing at HA

>> No.43868933

>>43868879
Ya it's pure jokes and comedy. No seriousness at all. Everything feels fake and the designs are bad too. I'm sure I'll hate it even more after I finish reading the youtube playthrough.

>> No.43868988

Arc: Being with no death: All things in creation have death from the moment they exist. Universal law. MEoDP see this predetermination.
ORT&Tiamat says Hi
Get hit by a technique that imparts death. MEoDP can now see their predetermined end. Looks sort of like flames. Bell sort of sound/ringing. Evening Bell: Reminds those who have forgotten their mortality. Seems related to the boundary of life and death given Benni/Hassan.
Shiki creates flames accompanied by a song called the boundary and bells that roots everything in a foundation of death and instills new lines of death and applications of his MEoDP. Called the man of the boundary. Is from a mountain.
Coincidence?
Also seems like Death really does exist for all these immortal beings but they may have just forgotten it and need some factors to occur before it comes into human purview? Like Vlovs principle?

>> No.43869086

>>43868879
Meteo died so Nasu has to write the comedy now.

>> No.43869101

>>43868441
>didnt get any (You)s here so he went to spam BL
what a nutcase

>> No.43869125

>>43869101
I don't really pay attention to trannies but is it basically that one sperg going off about Arc being ugly making the rounds on the wiki, bl and everywhere? Is this some weird rival for the korean cielfag?

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What does Roa mean by saying he hasn't seen the Tohno mansion in 8 years? Was he there as Elesia before? Because the incident with SHIKI a Shiki happened 7 years ago.

>> No.43869444

>>43869423
Find out in red garden!

>> No.43869445

>>43869423
Missing year where Shiki got involved with vampires.

>> No.43869466

>>43869423
There's no answer for this yet but Elesia died 13 years ago.

>> No.43869541

>>43869423
pretty sure that's just Shiki's memory being fucky, 8 years could work if he spent longer in the hospital than he believes

>> No.43869551

>>43869541
That's not Shiki.

>> No.43869784

Shiki became one of Roa’s host before he moves on to SHIKI’s body. The incident in the hospital where it reeks of blood and seemed to have a vampire incident had Shiki murdering the people in it when the body possession awakened his murder impulse, that’s why he unconsciously thinks he’s a freak beyond saving. This is also one of the points where he and Arc can relate to each other because Arc murdered every last of her brethren the moment her bloodlust awakened, which also explains the weird dreams in the prologue. It’ll come altogether when it gets revealed in Red Garden. Nasu has been prepping up Roa to be Shiki’s antithesis and the parallels between Shiki and Arc’s “fated meeting” since KT. Since KT most likely won’t get a remake it’s not surprising he’s adding KT elements in the game.

Truly the KINOko Experience.

>> No.43869817

>>43869784
How can Roa's possession of Shiki have caused the hospital massacre if he moved on to SHIKI's body after?

>> No.43869837

>>43869817
You’ve seen how schizo Shiki becomes when Roa’s fucking up his mind. Him unconsciously going on a murder spree when he was a child and still has no control of his Nanaya abilities isn’t unlikely.

>> No.43869843

>>43866755
factually false and even if it was true it would be a garbage reason

>> No.43869860

>>43869837
No, I mean I don't get the chronology. He was in hospital because he was almost killed by SHIKI.

>> No.43869895

>>43869551
Roa doesn't fully replace the host.

>> No.43869922

>>43869895
I don't understand how you can read any of that as being Shiki's or even a confused Shiki's, nor how it could have been 8 years when we know the incident happened 7 years ago.

>> No.43869955

>>43869922
>incident
Shiki thinks it happened 7 years ago, but the truth is it happened 8 years ago and he's spent a year longer in the hospital than he believes.
>any of that as being Shiki
It's Shiki's/Nanaya's POV. It's not a bad ending, Roa doesn't fully take over at that time.

>> No.43869995

>>43869955
It's Roa manifesting bro.

>> No.43870005

>>43869955
Why are they pretending it happened 7 years ago? It's not just Shiki who remembers that but Akiha too, and the records of the event found by Ciel also say it happened 7 years ago.

>> No.43870010

>>43870005
>Records can't be fudged.
Akiha is probably trying to protect Shiki from the reality.

>> No.43870022

Does Kagetsu Tohya have any H scenes aside from the flowers of thanatos scenario? I need to mentally prepare myself for the mollusks.

>> No.43870026

>>43870010
What reality?

>> No.43870031

>>43870005
same reason they're hiding the fact SHIKI existed obviously.
>records
tampered with, records claim Shiki is the eldest son aswell.

>>43869995
Yeah and? In that same sequence Roa gets told he's wrong by Shiki and decides against sucking blood. Their thoughts are intertwined

>>43870026
go ask your retarded questions to chat GPT or read the game to find out

>> No.43870047

>>43870031
How is that a retarded question? What is the reality Akiha is hiding from Shiki related to the incident being 8 years ago rather than 7?

>> No.43870055

>>43869860
And in the remake there were two hospitals. One that was in the prologue and the other hospital with different windows being the one with the vampire incident. Remake has been hinting that Shiki has layers of memory fuck ups.

>> No.43870057

>>43870031
That scene is mostly Roa with Shiki in the backseat, the alternative being Shiki just gone. It's very unlikely the nostalgic sense of return is suddenly Nanaya.

>> No.43870064

>>43870047
Shiki murdering a whole bunch of people and her probably burning down the hospital and nearly killing Saiki.

>> No.43870077

>>43870057
It's even more unlikely for Roa because he wasn't present back then. I mean, I guess he could be talking about the SHIKI incident, but it's not exactly nostalgic for Roa as in Roa.

>>43870064
Gotou's burns are caused by Akiha, not Shiki.

>>43870047
we'll find out in RG.

>> No.43870090

>>43870077
Not hard to understand. Incident takes place 8 years ago when Roa first partially awakens. Roa is essentially one in the same as the host so it would be nostalgic for him since he was the child from 8 years ago. Yes, Akiha did it. That's what "her" means.

>> No.43870103

>>43870090
Are you saying that it actually *was* Shiki that 'killed' SHIKI 7/8 years ago if it was Shiki Roa awoke in?

>> No.43870107

>>43870090
oh, I speedread it as "him". Yeah that might actually make sense huh.
>Roa is essentially one in the same as the host
once he merges, yes, but I dont think his consciousness/soul that keeps floating would find that nostalgic? Not really sure what transfers and what doesn't. Then again, if he "inherits" as he goes and what's passed on is similar to his last incarnation, maybe that's why he's such a bro towards Shiki.

>> No.43870125

>>43870103
Unclear but possible yes. But because of the connection between them maybe Roa was transferred into Shiki and then properly awoke in the hospital and then got transferred back to SHIKI later on. Though SHIKI's hatred is so intense I wouldn't be surprised if he just got the short end here. I could see a world where Shiki goes ape shit SHIKI gets Roa transferred into him afterwards and maybe he was brought to the same hospital where shit happened. Up in the air on the order but I really do think Shiki is a reincarnation.

>> No.43870161

>>43870125
>possible yes
No.
It makes no fucking sense. If Roa awoke in Shiki then why the fuck would SHIKI stab him?
this is such a fucking retarded theory, jfc

>> No.43870235

>>43870125
This is very likely true, as it's explains everything

>> No.43870311

>>43870161
Maybe inverted to protect himself. Or if he was initially in SHIKI it can play out the same and then get transferred to Shiki and then back to SHIKI.

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>> No.43870402

>>43870311
why would it transfer like that, makes no sense. SHIKI doesn't give anything to Shiki.

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>>43868279
She'll be hanging out and doing some cool stuff with Aoko and Alice while your best boy will still be cleaning the clogged toilets of some chinese restaurant. Sad but true.

>> No.43870617

>>43869784
pretty kino theory. would shiki have awakened his eyes in the hospital incident as well? he doesn't have them when he wake up for the first time so it's kinda suspicious.

>> No.43870629

>>43869125
nah, its the other guy who constantly spammed about how Arc is now a slave to the fgo guy's cock or something.

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>>43868575
>>43868814

>> No.43870994

>>43870516
How the fuck do you like Mahoyo and yet still shit on Souji. What a very strange “fan” of Mahoyo you are. Alice will wait for Souji and they’ll eat dinner together while Aoko does her thing. Kuma can do whatever she’s a boring side character.

>> No.43871056

>>43870022
A cat is fine too

>> No.43871141

>>43870994
Nah i don't shit on him, i actually enjoyed his part in the story. My only gripe would probably be that he is a bit too lenient and obedient as a character, his arc with Alice and Aoko also doesn't really evolve that much during the course of the game. For one thing the last bonus chapter showed how much potential Kojika has if they decided to do a follow up to the story, she is just like him a random person involved in some very dangerous and serious events... i would naturally expect her to have more presence in a direct follow up to Mahoyo. In fact i think that this Bonus chapter is here for this very reason.

>> No.43871333

Does Edmond approach the 3rd magic by burning souls?

>> No.43871351

>>43868115
God I wish

>> No.43872443

>>43870617
I mean it’s possible that he did considering Shiki has no memories to that hospital at all. He only remembers it subconsciously then it gets even clearer to the point that he has dreams about it the moment Roa started fucking up his mind. Funnily enough the route where he gets possessed by Roa has Shiki being able to talk to Child Nanaya and gets a proper farewell with his past self.
I’m not sure if I’m getting it right but iirc like in Arc’s route, Roa tells Shiki that he lacks the “truth” of being his true enemy. Except this time, Roa tells it in Shiki’s dreams before he fucks off forever.

>> No.43872477

>>43870968
He's definitely more pleasant to be around than the two angry bitches fighting for Shiki's dick.

>> No.43872628

We have Powered Ciel so when are we getting Powered Bazett?

>> No.43872775

>>43872443
When does Shiki with Roa's intervetion ever dream of the first hospital? I think the only vision he had was of the second hospital with the yellow curtains.

>> No.43872848

>>43869784
>Kouma murders Nanaya clan
>Fucks up Shiki in the process
>Shiki goes to first hospital
>Roa awakens
>Murderhobo Shiki
>One year gap(?)
>Roa goes to SHIKI for some reason
>capslock attacks Shiki
>Second hospital
>MEODP
Is this the timeline of this theory? The length which Roa stayed during Shiki's body and the switch to SHIKI is pretty ambigious.

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>> No.43872927

>>43872848
Wouldn't that mean Roa chose the Nanaya family initially and not the Tohno?

>> No.43872944

>>43872848
>Roa goes to SHIKI for some reason
>capslock attacks Shiki
It could be the other way around. Remake could have SHIKI attack Shiki because of his inversion impulse and have Roa jump ship because he thought Shiki died. Plus with SHIKI's mind completely gone it'd be easier for him to take over.

>> No.43872945

>>43872859
why does she have fangs?

>> No.43872953

>roa becomes a japanese person for the first time
>dies for good

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>>43872775
Day 8 and Roa’s already entered his brain at this point. Keep in mind that the view of the hospital window immediately changes to the last one the moment the text about him seeing dreams that reeked blood appeared.

Remember when Noel also had a good peak of his memory when she used her eyes against him? She mentioned something about Shiki’s long forgotten memory and how she pities him instead because he’s already beyond saving. I highly doubt it’s just the incident with SHIKI because him accidentally “killing” him does not really warrant that much reaction from Noel.

>>43872848
That’s the most plausible timeline, yeah. If Nasu actually didn’t fuck up his own timeline and really did mean that Roa saw the mansion 8 years ago.

>> No.43872992

>>43872955
>Shiki’s long forgotten memory and how she pities him instead because he’s already beyond saving
shiki will definitely have his own <accept the truth> moment

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>>43872945
Because she has fangs

>> No.43873025

where does aoko fit into this schizo theory

>> No.43873039

>>43873025
Gluing the pieces of a broken person back together.

>> No.43873056

Okay but you have to explain why Shiki isn't immortal. If Roa actually chose him then his soul should be "Roa" just like Ciel.

>> No.43873115

>>43873015
but... why?

>> No.43873122

>>43873056
Because his body isn't like Ciels and can come back to life on its own I guess? NTA btw. Or maybe a full awakening never happened? Shiki almost murderhobo'd people while Roa was trying to possess him.

>> No.43873128

>>43873115
because she’s a vampire

>> No.43873129

>>43873122
can't

>> No.43873185

>>43869784
That's the dumbest theory I've ever heard

>> No.43873218

>>43873185
you will kneel when it's revealed that anon was indeed right

>> No.43873244

>>43873218
Not only is it incoherent and requires you to ignore all the plot holes it creates it basically removes all the interesting shit from Shiki's past to try to tie one scene to Arc

>> No.43873256

Shiki originally in a different hospital where vampire shit went down? Yes sure, 100% behind that. Shiki was actually Roa's original reincarnation? No, it doesn't make any sense especially not with the way Roa acts towards Shiki.

>> No.43873283

>>43873244
>it basically removes all the interesting shit from Shiki's past
such as?

>> No.43873304

>>43873256
>different hospital
What's the reasoning behind this? There are definitely 2 rooms but why 2 hospitals?

>> No.43873314

>>43873304
I mean just from a meta point of view it has to be two different hospitals. There's the rundown one you can visit. And the fact that there are two different window CGs in the first place. You wouldn't do all that if Shiki just did something boring like change rooms.

>> No.43873333

>>43873283
saying that Roa was his original vessel, awakened and actually he was behind Shiki attacking SHIKI or whatever, what's even the point when you already have Nanaya for this. Is his personality when he was supposed to interacting with Hisui and Akiha altered by that? Doesn't this create a problem with the literal manifestation of Shiki's past memories remembering this shit and how it happens? And not commenting on Roa at all like he doesn't give a shit or think that's interesting
And shouldn't Roa remember this and call Shiki used goods ala Ciel? Never does. Or have him be immortal by a similar process.

>> No.43873382

>>43873314
I dunno I think it would be pretty contrived if it didn't all take place in the Saiki hospital.
What makes it all a bit more confusing is that when Shiki initially wakes up he remembers staying in a different room that smelled more like medicine. I wonder if that was back at the Tohno mansion immediately after the incident.

>> No.43873415

>>43873333
Also Shiki doesn't actually match the description that either Ciel or Roa give for the target of the next reincarnation

>> No.43873534

>>43873333
none of that shit is interesting. both akiha and hisui had like one or two flashback in the original. it's important on a narrative standpoint, but it's barely anything we know about anyway, nor what i would label as interesting.

>> No.43873574

>>43873534
oh my bad there aren't enough vampires and lasers for your liking right, that's why someone like you would like tsukihime not the actual narrative

>> No.43873597

How is the remake going to handle Kohaku's situation? They can make a lot of references towards sex but not outright say it despite being rated CERO Z, right?

>> No.43873625

>>43873597
Nasu said something about pushing the boundaries of what was allowed in a console game for Red Garden. Or something like that, I think.
But he is a pathological liar so we can only wait and hope.

>> No.43873656

>>43873597
Makihisa walked her home gently

>> No.43873691

>>43873574
are you one of the degenerate fans of the original that are against any kind of changes? you can always re-read the original. it's a fact that the remake far side will be a complete different experience, and you guys will kneel when everything will be revealed to be linked to arcueid and shiki.

>> No.43873716

>>43873597
You mean stuff with Makihisa? It's not like og actually mention rape. There was Kohaku diary with "SAVE ME" x20 and stuff like "you can imagine what she have been through"

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>>43873716
Lmao what. My man got traumatized so hard by Hisui route that he deleted the entire memory of the ending

>> No.43873744

>>43873691
I never even said that, I like the remake a lot more, you're just malding that your fanfic tier theories make no sense and I'm not pretending otherwise

>> No.43873767

>>43873716
It's very obviously rape, though

>> No.43873775

>>43873716
Play the game.

>> No.43873785

>>43873744
>fanfic tier theories
it's nothing but confirmed actually. the game literally start with eco-arc/nanaya, and nasu already revealed that more arc contents will be tied into the endgame of tsukihime. the entire near and far side are just routes that shiki need to clear in order to unlock the true ending of the game. i thought ciel true end made that clear.

>> No.43873794

>>43866592
original. far side routes

>> No.43873795

>>43873785
What are you even talking about anymore.
Arcfags need some help dude this level of copium can't be healthy

>> No.43873833

>>43873795
>another fucking EOP
anon, the premise of arcueid getting more contents, or rather a true ending has been theorized since the launch of the remake.

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hi sorry for my newbiness but i want to get into the fate franchise but am a bit confused on where to start, from what i understand i'm supposed to start with the fate/stay night vn and so would this: https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860991 be the correct starting point?

>> No.43873841

>>43873833
>muh manga ending must be a route

>> No.43873847

>>43873833
I'm not even talking about this. That doesn't make your Roa idea any less stupid. Make a better one and then we'll talk.

>> No.43873851

>>43873839
yea

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>>43873839
Yes
Have fun

>> No.43873866

>>43873839
Yup that's the one
have fun anon

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>>43873851
>>43873858
thank you very much

>> No.43873886

>>43873841
the manga ending would not give answer to some of the plot points established in the remake, just the happy ending. stop pretending you actually understand anything you have read EOP.
>>43873847
you have yet to fully debunk to theory. just pretend that you don't like the premise based on your own bias.

>> No.43873896

>>43873886
what is it about learning jap that turns people into insufferable cunts? or maybe you just always were one. if there's another Arc ending it'll be the manga one with a few bells and whistles. Go ahead and screencap this JOP

>> No.43873904

>>43873886
I didn't even bring this up. You did. You remember that you brought up muh original and muh arc true right? You're using your own biases and trying to hamfist a theory into a prechosen conclusion

>> No.43873908

>>43873886
which theory are we talking about here? I've lost track of who is who, but if you're talking about the "Roa originally posessed Shiki" theory, it's retarded.

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This timeline where Neco Arc gets more lewds then Arc is not one I wanna be in.

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>>43873933
I mean
Who would want to fuck Arc?
She barely has any appeal and Neco Arc is at least a meme

>> No.43874014

https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm41197391

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>>43873839
>25 gb
It feels like every time I look it gets bigger

>> No.43874058

>>43874014
Really good but ruined by the nico only letting you watch in hd if you pay so some parts are just mush.

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>>43874011
Of course that coom for brains don't understand Arc appeal. Based on the comments, Arcfags love that she's cute and innocent and that her smile brightens their day. Coomers will never understand this.

>> No.43874166

>>43874014
im upset the elevator scene here isn't in the actual vn

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>>43873839
You got it Yunocchi

>> No.43874313

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/109452524
Akihabros...

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>> No.43874363

>>43873382
Except Shiki has flashbacks of being in a different hospital attacked by the Dead.

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Are there any original Tsukihime routes summary? Can't find any (good) ones

>> No.43874403

>>43874389
Arcueid sucks, just like she is still bad in Remake.
Ciel was nice.
Akiha was nice.
Maids are boring.
Satsuki got no route.

>> No.43874431

>>43874363
If you mean the images he remembers when he sees Vlov kill that woman at the hotel, one of those images is the Saiki hospital.

>> No.43874515

>>43867532
the nice thing about Extella Link is that it was short and wasn't trying to reinvent the universe's lore

>> No.43874550

>>43874389
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Shiki_Tohno
You can check out the role section. That's about as good as it gets I guess.

>> No.43874562

>>43874134
This. I love Arc and she is genuinely too good for porn. She is an ethereal and pure kind of beauty, not a cumrag meant to jack off to like those gacha "characters".

>> No.43874651

>>43874562
Low T

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>>43874515
It was alright for what it was, the game also had a very solid servant roaster and some cool animations. Can't say no to Scathach, Tamamo, Jeanne or Astolfo...

>>43874562
I feel that way but with Seiba, pretty much peak anime character as far as i'm concerned.

>> No.43874672

>>43874134
How old is that pic related?
Also nasu just praises the FOTM like always, he praised Sakura too when HF was aired.

>cute and innocent
What is "innocent" about her?
She murdered most of her own species and is a bloodsucker, who kills Roa many times and tries to kill Ciel.

>Coomers will never understand this.
Akiha and Ciel aren't coomer characters and they are still more appealing than Arc.

>>43874562
She looks like average middle aged woman, what is there ethereal and pure?
Even her clothes are pretty regular ones.
Maybe if you're japanese and never see blondes you will think she's ethereal lmao.

>> No.43874684

>>43874668
>I feel that way but with Seiba, pretty much peak anime character
I can agree about Saber. Her design is great.
What are the castle ruins in the background on your pic? Any meaning?

>> No.43874690

>>43874651
Don't get me wrong, I love jacking off to gacha characters as much as the next guy. I'm just saying that's all the value they have. In terms of personality, characterization and overall aesthetics (from an actually tasteful point of view) they can't compare to Arc however.

>> No.43874703

>>43874684
This is from the Avalon Artbook. I would say the remaining vestige of her Castle or Kingdom.

>> No.43874742

>>43874690
>In terms of personality, characterization and overall aesthetics
Solomon?
Oberon?
Morgan?
Daybit?
Kirschatira?

There are pure coombaits like Raikou and Britomart, but not every gacha character has no characterization

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>>43874742
>Morgan

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>>43869843
you're pathetic and would get crushed if either one looked at you

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>Reach day 9 of Ciel's route.
>They say something about getting vaccines
>The doctor is Arach
...
Anons, I'm afraid, please hold my hand

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>>43875176
It's okay anon, she's a doctor. She knows what she's doing.

>> No.43875244

>>43874742
>Solomon?
>Oberon?
>Morgan?
>Daybit?
>Kirschatira?
It's sad that the new generation of TM fans actually consider these good characters.

>> No.43875301

>>43875176
do NOT pick the thick needle that hurts like hell and isn't very effective.
worst mistake of my life

>> No.43875328

Why are the Near Side and Far Side part of the same game anyway?

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>>43874134
This, but Hisui.

>> No.43875383

>>43875301
w-what would happen? Some instant BAD END or something that fucks with me later in the route?

>> No.43875405

Oberon is pretty good tho

>> No.43875414

>>43875405
meant for
>>43875244

>> No.43875428
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>>43875414
no it wasn't

>> No.43875431

>>43875383
Later.

>> No.43875491

>>43875383
But Pantheon.

>> No.43875659

>>43875301
best mistake of my life

>> No.43875800

>>43875301
This is such a long and good spiral if Shiki gets jabbed.

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Bros, why is Nasu telling me I'll never be Japanese?

>> No.43875991

>>43875981
>Vlov's eyes are thinner than Ciel's
hmmm

>> No.43876316

>>43872848
>>Roa goes to SHIKI for some reason
SHIKI is rich and comes from an influential family, while Shiki lost everything after the attack.

>> No.43876345

>>43872848
was Shiki hurt during the attack on his clan?

>> No.43876355

>>43876316
The Nanaya's lived in the bumfuck mountains, so it wouldn't make any sense for Roa to pick him instead of SHIKI in the first place.

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A drug that turns people into vampires? Really? Smells like garbage.

>> No.43876528

>>43876355
That's the main issue with the theory. Ciel says that she is sure that Roa picked the eldest son of the Tohno family as his nex host. Shiki was still not a part of the Tohno family when Roa reincarnated

>> No.43876532

>>43876488
Please understand Nasu needed an excuse for shounen battles

>> No.43876536

>>43876488
welcome to nu-nasu

>> No.43876570

>>43876532
>shounen battles
Like half of that scene is a psychological mindfuck

>> No.43876654

>>43876570
if you have skill issues and get the bad end maybe

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Would you?

>> No.43876718

How are we getting TM Ace scans. Any easy way to purchase outside JP? Someone uploaded the whole thing last time

>> No.43876730

>>43876718
do we know when it's getting released?

>> No.43876731

>>43876718
Welcome the 21st century granddad. It's digital too now.

>> No.43876935

>>43876730
Summer.
>>43876731
I guess it will be uploaded quick then.

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>> No.43877045

personally, i like arcueid's pepperoni nipples

>> No.43877052

>>43877045
You mean cute, small and pink.

>> No.43877151

>>43876654
what? No, I'm talking the giant long flashback about Noel and Ciel's past.

>> No.43877171

>>43877151
how the fuck does that qualify as mindfuck? It's literally just exposition

>> No.43877205

>>43877171
Uh no, it describes in great, painstaking detail all of the crazy horrors they saw. If that seriously had no effect on you, I don't know what to say.

>> No.43877272

>>43877205
I recall it having a pretty standard level of detail. In any case, mindfuck is a poor choice of words when we're discussing a story that actually has characters getting mindfucked.

And the visions didn't have an especially large impact on Shiki, so...

>> No.43877313

>>43876532
Calling either DA Noel fight Shonen is a pretty big stretch. Not even for like muh horror but just because it's relatively uneventful as an action spectacle, it's almost entirely character moment and exposition

>> No.43877384

>>43877272
>And the visions didn't have an especially large impact on Shiki, so...
but they obviously did on Ciel... but OK even if the word "mindfuck" triggers you, it's obviously horror.

>> No.43877417

>Roa makes a new mortal enemy any% speedrun

>> No.43877555

>>43877313
sorry you only grew up with shounen battles where planets get destroyed

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school friend, my beloved

>> No.43877571

could Ryougi just... cut vampirism to cure it?

>> No.43877618

>>43877384
You specifically mentioned its effect on the reader. It doesn't matter when we didn't see it from Ciel's perspective. Furthermore, one aspect of the importance of noting Shiki's response is that he had been characterized as especially squeamish and disliking the sight of blood. Ciel was personally involved, and her response was due to her guilt rather than horror.

As for the semantics, there's no need to be dramatic, I'm just pointing out that it'll be prone to create misunderstandings. I suspect what the other anon had regarded as "that scene" was just the beginning of the shounen battle onward and the "mindfuck" was him getting trapped in his eyeball.

The root problem here is that there's plenty of ways to convey the flashback without turning Noel into a DA. Furthermore, because the flashback doesn't affect Shiki and Shiki's perception doesn't affect our understanding of it. Consequently, the only purpose the dream serves is getting Ciel catatonic. That has it's own problems, although they probably mostly just comes down to opinion. The two remaining purposes of Arach's drug are setting up a fight scene and giving Noel a power trip.

>>43877313
>it's almost entirely character moment and exposition
That also accurately describes a lot of battle shounen, coincidentally.

>>43877571
Tohno can do that too now.

>> No.43877655

>>43877618
>The root problem here is that there's plenty of ways to convey the flashback without turning Noel into a DA.
The are other ways, but I can't think of anything better. On the contrary, I don't view it as a problem at all, I think it's rather ingenious. It serves so many different purposes at the same time. Turning Noel into a DA is the finale of the character conflict between Ciel and Noel, allows you to showcases Ciel's guilt + the horror, shows some new background lore/plot details (the ritual, dark six etc.), AND lets you have a cool fight. I kneel Nasu; I couldn't do a better job.

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I'm reading sF and am a little confused. Is Jester one of Van Fem's successors? Or below that?

>> No.43877694

>>43877655
I'm not bothered personally because it's all magic BS either way, but the reply chain began with questioning the drug itself; in other words, the "how" of Noel's transformation.

>> No.43877704

>>43877618
>The root problem here is that there's plenty of ways to convey the flashback without turning Noel into a DA.
Turning Noel into a Dead Apostle is the point though. The story is set up to make you think that Noel has been turning into a DA as a parallel to Shiki being Roa'd and struggling with her morality and sanity, only to rugpull and reveal that she actually hasn't. Then she really turns into one and they get to take what she was doing all of Ciel route hunting the mostly innocent to it's logical conclusion by reversing the human-vampire roles.
It's contrived but it's kino so I don't mind

>> No.43877723

Vlov is the character I want to be happy the most.

>> No.43877727

>>43877694
>in other words, the "how" of Noel's transformation.
Well the answer to that is just Arach bullshit that we won't know fully until Red Garden.

>> No.43877731

>>43877560
I can never stop grinning whenever there is a scene with her in it. I love her.

>> No.43877747

>>43876488
>>43876532
>>43876536
DAs needed to give people their blood to turn them since the original Tsukihime.

>> No.43877748

>>43877668
I've been told he is rank V and some other people claiming he is rank VII. Who knows?

>> No.43877836

Just started the Remake

What am I in for? I didn't think it'd be voiced

>> No.43877862

>>43877836
Keep reading and form your own opinion.

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>>43877836
You're in for high quality tsun

>> No.43877873

>>43877836
>I didn't think it'd be voiced
what, why?

>> No.43877881

>>43877873
mahoyo

>> No.43877886

>>43877881
Oh that was just a special case of austim that he got over.

>> No.43877901

>>43877836
Skip or cheat Arc's route, as Arc is shit
Read Ciel route.

>> No.43877926

>>43877901
Hi, Gook.

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>>43877560
I appreciate them giving her fat ass in the remake

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>>43877926
He's a relatively new Arcschizo who's apparently a homo for Roa.

>> No.43877982

>>43877974
>I literally had gay sex with Roa in character.ai yesterday
lmao what

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>>43877974
What in the goddamn hell?

>> No.43877992

>>43877974
I can't tell if this is a joke or not.

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>>43877964
I love her so much.

>> No.43878008

>>43877865
Every time Akiha's tsun breaks is actually amazing.

>> No.43878029

>>43877964
AHHH SACCHIN SOCKS

>> No.43878043

>>43877668
First of all he got different forms which have diffrent ranks but general idea is that he was at least rank 7 originally but Van kicked him out so he's rank 6 or bellow in fsf

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>>43878047

>> No.43878074

everyone that posts about arc here, positively or negatively, is super annoying
all arcposting should be banned

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>>43877992
>>43877982
>>43877984
beta.character.ai is the chat bot where you can talk to characters.

Anyway, I just love the archetype of "seemingly insane mage with some grand design which he pursues".
My FGO favorite is Marisbury (and Solomon), F/SN's are Zelretch and Einzberns.
So it's pretty obvious I loved Roa when read Tsukihime, sadly nasu is shit writer and kills interesting characters like Roa and Kirei. I wish there is an ending with Roa surviving and BTFO arc. He deserves it way more than "true ancestors" who feed on humanity.

Just like I love Morgan because of her backstory and useless attempts to make Britain a better place. Not because she has revealing outfit.
You know that's why it feels so funny when people claimed here that gachafags are always coomers and don't appreciate characters' personality and design.

And Arc is just trash, but then you have cope like >>43874562
Yeah if you're asian probably a blonde woman is ethereal for you, but I am from Poland, and for me it's just regular hair color. Arc isn't cute, isn't fun, isn't interesting, she's just weird middle age woman with shit taste for clothes. Ethereal, my ass.

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If Tsukihime is about the preciousness of Life and Death, and Fate is about Heroism and Ideals, what are the themes of Mahoyo?

>> No.43878092

>>43878074
Disregard what I wrote here, I suck cocks.

>> No.43878098
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>>43878091
The female brain.

>> No.43878100

>>43878091
1. Alice is a midget
2. Aoko Has big boobs
3. Cat and engine flywheel don't mix.
4. Robin.

>> No.43878104

>>43878091
Please wait until part 2 for the plot and themes!

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Why couldn't he be normal bros

>> No.43878121

>>43878092
everytime arc is posted about the quality of the thread drops dramatically

>> No.43878124

>>43878091
breast envy and the importance of getting a good night sleep

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>> No.43878135

I think we've gone beyond the usual Rin vs Sakura schizo posting with Arc schizo posting.

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>>43878098
>>43878100
>>43878104
>>43878124
I was going to guess something about the ordinary vs the supernatural, how Aoko will potentially have to make a sacrifice in the future... but these are all acceptable answers.

>> No.43878160

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NXAM8fbDUE

>> No.43878163

>>43878091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvYkDwApdk0

>> No.43878179

>>43878163
I love this video

>> No.43878186

>>43878163
I hate this video and I hate Aoko

>> No.43878188

>>43878186
ebic

>> No.43878200

>>43878186
same but only partially

>> No.43878202

>>43878080
So you have mental illness. That's sad

>> No.43878235

>>43878202
Said someone who likes arcshit.

>> No.43878236

>>43878043
When does Alcides compare him to the Nemean Lion? He was probably not Rank VIII though, I think Nasu is saving those as really special.

>> No.43878248

>>43878135
It's just a single retard. A gachafaggot no less.
Arc bros are good posters who actually contribute to the thread.

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>> No.43878266

>>43878248
>liking arc
>contribute
no

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>>43878266

>> No.43878293

>>43878283
That's surely "genius" nasu's writing that people praise.

>> No.43878304

Is Mahoyo seriously still not on PC?

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>>43878293
yo dis be some hardcore trolling? who young fing be?

>> No.43878319

>>43878304
You can play it on pc fine it takes 5 minutes to set up.

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>that one schizo who spends more time to post/spew hate on Arc than talking about their favourites
Success breeds jealousy

>> No.43878373

How the fuck do use the fucking controls on the goddamn switch? Is the only interface the pull down menu when you click on the top that offers a quick load or quick save?

>> No.43878392

>>43866592
Original. I hate ciel

>> No.43878404

>>43874134
unironically this.
She is the type of girl that is not made for lewd.

>> No.43878415
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43878415

Arcueid Brunestud my beloved

>> No.43878419

>>43878283
GIWTWM

>> No.43878423

>>43878404
I feel the same way about Saber.

>> No.43878424

>>43877974
>the anti-arcshizo is actually just a roaschizo who’s jealous of roa’s love for arc and because of that roa will never ever fuck him
The comedy writes itself

>> No.43878432

>>43877974
I swear I have seen the exact same post on /a/

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>>43878423
Not for me.

>> No.43878477

Arc ISN'T innocent. That is the whole point of her character. inb4 BUT SHE WAS TRICKED!!!11111

>> No.43878503

>>43877881
Didn't mahoyo get a voice patch?

>> No.43878514

>>43878477
She was tricked.

>> No.43878523

>>43878503
The new one has voice.

>> No.43878533

>Noel thinks that she's starting to transform in DA after Vlov bit her
>Ciel said that Shiki saved her fast enough and she will be fine, later Arach also said that she's 100% human and doesn't even have potential to turn into DA
What's the deal with that Noel scene after she killed those vampire kids then? It was stated that her halberd weighs a tonne and normally she's using some spell which allows her to swing it but in that scene she didn't activate it and used only her brute strength. There was also some red text as if she's possessed by something. Was that just some placebo effect of her thinking she transforms into DA or did Nasu dropped some foreshadowing for demon (true) existing in TsukiR?

>> No.43878536

>>43878533
We already know True demons are in Tsuki R. They said Kiara is in the Burial Agency.

>> No.43878563

Plot twist: Arach is Jester.

>> No.43878583

Plot twist: Arach is lactating.

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Plot twist: I still post on this general regularly even though I haven't read or cared about Mahoyo or TsukiRe.

>> No.43878762

>>43877017
Make love not war.

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how did this character impact the popularity of tsukihime

>> No.43878871

>>43878091
Magecraft being like the expansion of cities that has modern advancements that loses the magic and connection to earth that the mountains have. The rapid construction of cities is like entropy and that the future must keep moving forward as we try to leave the past behind. It’s important to have human connections or else you’ll lose yourself and become like a mage that is inhuman in their research that lives like a machine.

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>>43878091
Relentlesness

>> No.43878904

>>43878871
You should also appreciate where you were born and the home and society you interact with from childhood as you try to move into the future. You can’t let it consume you or else you’ll never move forward.

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>>43878091
Relentlessness

>> No.43878954

I like girls who are turned into vampires.

>> No.43879040

>>43878954
Shirley best girl?

>> No.43879078

>>43878533
tard rage boost

>> No.43879141

>>43878283
Holy shit I had forgotten how ugly the OG was

>> No.43879157

>>43878583
Spider milk....

>> No.43879175

>>43878607
Nasu has more than 2 works, contrary to popular belief

>> No.43879476

>>43878355
>success
Yeah look on pixiv or twitter and cope calling that "success" when she barely gets fanart and it's absurdly shit quality or AI.

>> No.43879499

>>43878607
Plot twist: I follow TM unironically thinking Nasu is complete shit and francise will become better when he dies and Aniplex hires better CEO to manage the IP. Urobuchi, Higashide and Sakurai are better writers.
Everything good which TM has comes from Takeuchi and him alone. You underestimate value of good visual design.

>> No.43879741

What happens if I kill the captive vamps with Noel?

>> No.43879763

>>43879741
Shower sex but a bad end later

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>> No.43879839

>>43879741
I don't know why you keep asking about bad ends but you should do them all. You'd be especially missing out by not doing that one.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2W5ZsMtHKg

>> No.43880333

>>43878779
Not much, but it's the only reason MBTL is played by more than 10 people at any given time.

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>>43878098
That's kinda for all TM stories...

>> No.43880745

>>43878533
>but in that scene she didn't activate it and used only her brute strength
Church executioners are built differently, even mediocre ones like Noel.
They literally get training.

>> No.43880939

>>43866592
Original for the far side routes. Maybe remake will be better in the end if they don't botch the high points of far side.

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>>43880745
>Church executioners are built differently, even mediocre ones like Noel.
Yeah they are stronger than regular humans but not truly superhuman strong. Like rank IV vampire can wipe the floor with average Executor and Shiki wiped the floor with 5 of them without problem. Both narration and Noel herself said that it should be impossible for her to swing that thing and there are lots of weird shit going on with her in that scene.

>> No.43881144

>>43881008
Executioners are superhuman by still human standards. Just look at Kotomine and Hansa. Much like Shiki and even Ciel are also considered human.
I disagree with that, we know for a fact Noel wasn't turning into a DA and she was capable of swinging that weapon, so that's disproven by the facts procented.
I imagine Noel can still swing her weapon but not with the swiftness and skill required to use it under any combat capacity. Bear in mind the narration states she could have easily torn her muscles under the strain of trying to wield it so it clearly required effort from her.

>> No.43881361

>>43881008
>and Shiki wiped the floor with 5 of them without problem
When does Shiki wipe the floor with 5 rank IV?

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>>43881361
In Ciel route during patrol with Arc they tracked them in one of the old buildings. Arc let him handle them

>> No.43881889

>>43881840
This screencap proves that they weren't rank 4, they were all grouped together
I'm pretty sure the next Ciel scene is her thinking about how she already wiped out every rank IV

>> No.43881989

>>43881840
Yeah, I think they might have been rank III. Rank III DA still have some semblance of intelligence and can pass off as humans. The ones Noel killed were probably rank III as well.

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>Strange fake was originally a April fools joke video game concept. Were people get to create there own master and have the ability to summon more their own servant if correct. They get to talk to people, customize their outfits, travel to different places, battle other masters, etc.

"The role of the player in the "game" is described on the April Fools' Day Fake/states night website and a brief epilogue at the end of the novel. They arrive in Snowfield three days after their meeting with the woman looking for a cheap, single-story motel. They encounter a man with a mohawk working as a clerk in a drugstore, and friendlier than he appears, he tells of nearby motels and suggests nearby hotels with similar prices. They decline the idea of hotels, and he comments on their "slick tattoos", causing them to chuckle as they leave the store and ruminate on the Command Seals.[2] There are various paths available to them, with proper usage of their ability to summon Servants possibly granting them the Holy Grail in the end. They can encounter all of the various Servant and Master pairs. False Rider may entrap them in Tubaki Kuruoka's dream world, or the Orlando Reeve's squadron may capture them. Various alliances can be formed, such as with Flat Escardos and Berserker, who may or may not be trustworthy.[2] The attributes of the summoned Servants, "Lawful, Neutral, and Chaotic" and "Good, Neutral, and Evil", also play a role in alliances. They have different goals and personalities, and differing goals can lead to betrayal. Encouraged to "make Caster moan", they are able to decide the fate of all the characters. Overcoming or not overcoming the obstacles set before them, they can follow a path where all die or use "underhanded tricks" to ensure that all live. It is possible that certain paths will not even allow them to be at the center of the plot, relegating them to the role of "Innocent Bystander A" while the Holy Grail War plays out. The only thing that cannot be done is to escape from the Command Spells, as it is ingrained knowledge within their body that running away will result in death. They are free to utilize their Command Spells as they wish, even waiting the entire week without utilizing any of them. Summoning female Servants into the Snowfield hot springs is a possibility, though that could exhaust their allotted thirty minutes without accomplishing anything should they get too engrossed. There is also a path where they are able to convert to Assassin's religion and marry her."


Anyone here that excited for strange da fake?

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>>43878091

“The boy lived a really normal life
She lived with pride and confidence
The girl lived hidden as if she’s asleep”

Robin believes the theme of mahoyo of different era of people living together and getting it through together.

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>>43881144
>Kotomine and Hansa
Kotomine is literally considered peak Executor. Hansa in 80% cyborg. Text clearly say that she's not strong enough for that weapon and considering red text and other weird shit it's possible she got momentarily possesed by a demon or something

>> No.43882303

>>43881840
They were at most rank III and Noel has better showings for dealing with hordes of low tier DA ironically. That's something Shiki doesn't seem that good at.
Noel probably just raged out and swung as hard as she could in a way she can't sustain in combat. She wasn't turning into a Dead Apostle so that's the only real way to explain it

>> No.43882314

>>43882245
You can easily interpret wield as "wield effectively in combat" and there'd be no inconsistencies.

>> No.43882329

>>43882303
Shiki quite literally fought 100 dead created by DA Noel though. He also beat Roa during their first encounter who is rank 6

>> No.43882340

>>43882329
As a regenerating dead apostle, he was taking damage that prevented him from fully healing the whole fight. And that's a one on one vs a Roa that arguably wasn't trying to win, not a group fight.

>> No.43882370

>>43882340
>wasn't trying to win
What? He was going for the kill. In og Shiki would have died if Ciel didn't show up but in Remake Shiki overpowered Roa and Noel attack actually saved him hilariously enough

>> No.43882371

>>43882245
>demons out of fucking nowhere
What? Nothing suggests this at all.

>> No.43882404

>>43882370
Okay. This doesn't really have anything to do with the point anyway so idc

>> No.43882406

>>43882340
nice speed reading, roa (SHIKI) was 100% going for the kill. by this logic not even shiki was attempting to "win" since he was trying to get out alive while trying to figure what the hell was happening to him.

>> No.43882417

>powerlevels again
Shiki is just a baller. Simple as.

>> No.43882432

>>43882406
Yeah, it's pretty clear SHIKI was trying to kill him.

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>>43882417
Yeah

>> No.43882449

>>43882406
Yeah my bad, I glazed over it and thought it was the same as the OG. I'll accept that I'm dumb.

>> No.43882466

>>43882437
i miss the rape shirt

>> No.43882494

>>43882466
I don't. The new clothes look so much better for him

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why doesn't /tmg/ make OC anymore

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>>43882494
Look at all ths drip

>> No.43882547

>>43882508
Bad non canon meme.

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