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Sumaga is shit

Third best VN company. First is Key, second is Leaf.

>>4350227
Leaf has done nothing good in years.

>Sumaga
About this, looks like GCKC got back to work as the TLWiki page has been updating quite a lot recently.
Current progress is 550/796 files done, or 69%

We also have the Demonbane anime! Musn't forget that!

ZIZZ Studio? More like, JIZZ Studio!

...Because, you know. They're so good.
You end up jizzing your pants while listening to the OSTs.
That's how good they are. Yeah.

Only the Urobuchi titles were translated.
The best of Nitro+ will be next, hopefully.

>>4350223
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Next: Angelos Armas!!!!!

>>4350284
Actually, I'd bet on Demonbane or Hanachirasu(Makoto is currently translating that).

>>4350284
This was a terrible game. But it had good music. All nitro+ games have good music.

>>4350305
Why? I like the music too and this pretty cool characterdesign!
What a story have Angelos Armas? Killer-Angels killing people?????

>>4350260
>Natsumi from Hello, World.
Keep on dreaming.

ZIZZ Studio OST batch torrent where???

>>4350350
If YU-NO and Muv-Luv are getting translated, why not Hello World?

>>4350339
The story went a little too fast and sloppy in the wrong decision from the point after you choose to let or not let the older sister get raped

>>4350363
Because YU-NO isn't long.

>>4350363
>Hello World?

Is there voice acting in this game?
Without it we there is zero chance of it getting localization from JAST.

>>4350453 JAST
Who cares about them.
They're only delaying the fan translations.

>>4350475
Unlike animu, VN translator do not magically appear.
We literally have to be grateful for whatever that is translated and released or learn japanese.

>>4350453
Only women have voice acting in it.

>>4350453
Yes it's voiced (everyone is voiced all the time, apart of the male characters).
Still, it's 4.03 MB script, so it's longer than anything translated so far (including the entire translated content from umineko and higurashi), and to be quite honest, about half of it is quite slow slice of life, which is unmotivating to translate.

wasnt there going to be a remake

>>4350492
>VN translator do not magically appear.
And even those who miraculously appear, 95+% of the cases never finish their project.

>>4350520
...Or they get scared off by drama & whiny idiots.

Looked what happened to Hatsukoi. ;_;

>>4350223
>I think I can safely say that this is the best VN company, everything they did delivered a fucking lot.
What's best will always come down to personal preferences and so on, but the fact that they have released quite many titles, almost all of them of seemingly high quality as opposed to just a few would certainly rate them high, right?

>>4350223
Did you forget about the wonderful piece of shit Chaos;Head? I DIDN'T.

How would you rank them?
1-Phantom
2-Kikokugai
3-Saya
4-what was released of Sumaga so far.

>>4350553
5pb did it, Nitro+ only produced it.

>almost all of them of seemingly high quality

>>4350543
>would certainly rate them high

This is highly subjective.
I refused to play that shitty DVD player only rubbish and Sumage seems to be delayed due to SUPPORT JAST USA FOR NITRO+ LOCALIZATION.

I did enjoyed Saya and Kikokugai but I wouldn't say that they are some insurmountable wall for eroge.
They are good but I wouldn't felt left out if I didn't play them.
Stuff like Cross Channel and Ever17 however are definitely VN that everyone need to read.
Nitro+ didn't threw up any stinkers but they haven't produce any masterpiece yet or maybe I just haven't play them yet due to the language barrier since so far only the short Nitro+ titles get translated. I heard a lot of good about Muramasa and I am actually looking forward to it maybe 3-4years down the road if it get translated.

>>4350554
1. Sumaga
2. Saya
3. Phantom
4. Kikokugai

Sure, call me a sucker for White Knighting and Lovecraft-mythos, I didn't rate it objectively.

1-Muramasa
2-Hello, World
3-Gekkou no Carnevale
4- Phantom of Inferno
5- Sumaga
6-Vedogonia
7-Saya
8-Kikokugai
9-Django
10-Demonbane
11-Angelos Armas
12-Hanachirasu

They did nothing shitty; even Hanachirasu wasn't bad at all.
Though the only Nitro+ titles I would put in my favorites are Muramasa and Hello, World; everything else is good but lack a little something to be considered as amazing.

Though I can understand that Phantom was considered as a masterpiece when it was released.

>>4350586
My point was basically that they have released more products than most other companies and their average budget have been above average as well, and most of all, the combined sales of them all are greater than most other companies.

I wasnt really focusing much on the quality of individual titles, a TM-fag might come up and say "TM truly is the best VN-company ever, nothing can beat their works" and then there's the fact that those works are in the end just two, it doesn't really come close to the Nitro+.

And as I already stated, what's best will always come down to personal preferences I guess, but I do believe that Nitro+'s overall sucess and ratings by critics and so on implies that their works are still above average quality.

>>4350586
>Stuff like Cross Channel
I agree that Cross Channel is excellent, but look at Flying Shrine's other titles. They're uninteresting or nukige, and Swan Song was something they made with Le Chocolat, whose usual stuff isn't any better.

Nitro+ is one of the few companies that frequently releases quality titles.

Age

>>4350627
Personally I'd rank Sumaga over Gekkou. While Gekkou does have all elements for awesome VN(great themes, awesome cast, etc) the awesome parts are seperated by pretty bland stuff.

Also, it's amazing that Hanachirasu writer also did Muramasa.

>>4350658
You can't be serious.

>>4350645
>>4350648

Like what >>4350627
>everything else is good but lack a little something to be considered as amazing.

They are good but I rather play 1 AAAA+ must play tier title compare 3 A-tier titles.

>>4350670
Well there is Muramasa and Hello, World for that, they belong in the highest tier.
That's 2 titles, pretty good.

>>4350670
The point still stands that not many companies can claim 2 AAAA+ titles and 4 A-tier titles.
As VN company, Nitro+ is awesome.

>>4350553
Why does Chaos;Head get so much hate around here? I mean, I'm not going to say it's one of the best VNs existence, or one of the greats or anything, but I at least found it to be a somewhat enjoyable read. Maybe a 7/10.

Am I the only one who wouldn't place Muramasa at the top?
Well, of course it isn't bad but it still managed to make me lose interest at parts and overall it didn't "catch" me as well as most of their other titles.
Am I different or something? I can't be alone can I?

>>4350701
Well, I liked it myself, but remember the amount of hype it got before the release? There was TONS of Chaos;Head threads on /jp/, leading lots of people to believe that it was the best thing ever. Since it wasn't, disappointment followed.

>>4350703
Well I can only speak for myself but Muramasa has become my favorite eroge ever.
So let alone best Nitroplus eroge list, I would put it at the top of the best eroge ever list, I've never been so engrossed with an eroge before, it was for me a perfect experience for this media.

But that's just me, don't mind it.

>>4350701
i like Chaos;head, if only if the male lead isnt such a goddamn annoying.

Why is Japan have such a fetish on shitty male leads?

Type-Moon havent made anything bad yet, its just too popular.

>>4350713
They've done nothing really great either.

>>4350711

Because you are the male lead and you really aren't that great, either.

>>4350713
Have they even made anything not related to F/SN or Tsukihime?

>>4350711
I wish he had been bit more like Keiichi. Instead of going "OMG MAGIC KILLERS THEY'RE OUT TO GET ME!" why couldn't he be like "Keep your cool, there has to be sensible explanation for all of this!"
It would've made the whole game so much better.

>>4350726
I had find Takumi cool, especially in the end of the game. The instrumental version of find the blue is epic.

>They are good but I rather play 1 AAAA+ must play tier title compare 3 A-tier titles.
First of all, this is something I would call subjective, as I said several times now, in the end I guess it comes down to personal preferences.
But even if you wouldn't rank any of their titles among the very best, wouldn't you still rate Nitro+ as a company
>high
considering their many titles of quality.

I do believe it to be less subjective to say that they would rate high as a VN-company, compared to saying that wouldn't because they "lack AAAA+ titles".

>>4350721
VN wise?
No, though 1 of the upcomings VNs seems to be.

>>4350721
Well, Nasu is currently writing a one story into VN format, he originally wrote it before Tsukihime.
And that Liar-Soft writer is working on one game for them. You know, the Forest/Kusarihime guy.

>Saya, Kikokugai and Phantom of Inferno
>best VN company

>>4350745
Maybe you should read them Sion before judging something.

>>4350745
So Alicia, what do you prefer?
>>4350721
Well, Nasu is currently writing one story into VN format, he originally wrote it before Tsukihime.
And that Liar-Soft writer is working on one game for them. You know, the Forest/Kusarihime guy.

>>4350749
I can tell by the typical terrible retarded fans that they aren't worth my time

Type-Moon did that extra scenario for 428.
Even though I've heard it sucks.

>>4350768
Yeah, it's not one of their best works.
>>4350765
What VNs are worth your time, then?

>>4350765
Everything has retarded fans.
And there is no way you can gauge the ratio betweem them and 'normal' or good ones.
Enjoy being paranoid about the shit you want to try out.

>>4350779
>Every Saya fan post
I WISH I COULD HAVE A LOLI LIKE SAYA XD
>Every Chaos;Head fan post
LOL TAKUMI IS JUST LIKE ME HES SO COOL XD

Nitro+ sucks deal with it

>>4350798
Are you looking on animesuki or what?

Personally, I'm partial to âge.

>>4350798
The fans do.
Not the VNs.
Imagine if people judged VC from you.
They would buy copies just to burn them.

>>4350765
Yeah, stupid fans, how dare they love something good? They should go back to type moon, and reread their works 5+ times right?

>>4350798
>Chaos;Head
Once again, I remind you that 5pb developed this. Nitro+ was just the publisher.

>>4350802
Try /jp/, probably the same newfag Nitro+ fans from animesuki posting anyways

>>4350818
Why do you only reply to some posts and ignore others?

>>4350820
Cause it's easier to not reveal the intentional shitposting that way.

>>4350798
You must be blind Sion, or you are confusing these posts with FSN/umineko posts.

>>4350822
That's silly.

>>4350820
Because they weren't there yet

>>4350809
So 1 person = VC SUCKS BURN IT
So thousands upon thousands of terrible Nitro+ fans means?

>>4350812
At least TYPE-MOON is actually good

>>4350816
Chaos;Head was everyone's FIRST NITRO+ VN, it counts no matter what excuses you can come up with for sucking

>>4350835
>At least TYPE-MOON is actually good
Keep telling yourself that, retard.

>>4350835
I doubt you have witnessed thousands of fans.
And you miss the point, unless distinguishing 'developer' and 'producer' is too taxing for you.
In that case, I understand. There are many special people in the world.

>Sion watches Ladies VS Butlers

>>4350835
>Because they weren't there yet
It happened earlier as well. You never told us what companies you prefer.

>>4350843
Type-Moon, he is Sion after all.

>>4350838
Typical Nitro+ fan, notice that he has the mental state of a 12 year old

Let me also restate the fact that Rance, Sharin and Cross Channel are also garbage

Nitro+ produces good VNs in my opinion.

>>4350855
You do not know he is a Ntro_ fan, and insults do not indicate a mental state.
You also call other retards.
Are you 12 years old?
Doubtful.
Such butthurt needs years to accumulate.

>>4350855
>Let me also restate the fact that Rance, Sharin and Cross Channel are also garbage
Then what do you like?! Key and Leaf?

what is this one about? I like westerns but I dislike uncomfortable rape scenes which nitro+ games seem to have a lot of.

they have a good mascot

>>4350883
Best headphone girl ever.

>>4350877
It's spaghetti western in space, basically Urobuchi's FUCK YOU to typical moe stuff.
>uncomfortable rape scenes
One of the main characters fucks everything that moves, another fucks army to death and last one is pure, she only loves loli.

You will never save a little girl from a poverty ridden slum and have her cook you hamburger soup. ;_;

Didn't they make a fightin' game, Nitro+?

>>4350900
Yeah, but it's pretty bad.

>>4350877
>>4350894
More specifically, it's Leone's The Good, The Bad & The Ugly with several allusions to Corbucci's Django. The antagonist is modeled after Klaus Kinski, known for movies like The Great Silence and My Name is King http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEodBhtBaj4

>>4350897
<3

>>4350941
This is how you properly use your Cal.

塵骸って忘れられてるのかな

>>4350835
You know, while I do believe that it's utterly retarded to make up ones opinions on something based on fans' behaviour, I still found your posts to at least be somewhat consistent while still remaining dumb, but then I saw
>At least TYPE-MOON is actually good
If anything the Type Moon fags have grown to be the most retarded group of fans when it comes to even something remotedly related to stuff like this, perhaps only rivaled by the new when they cry fags, but they will most likely mature and when all of the works are translated then most of the retardedness will most likely die.

So really now, while I do find it dumb to base your opinion based on others, if this was your argument then what's up with finding TM good?

>>4350941
There's nothing impure about making love with Cal.

Type-Moon is the poster dead horse of VNs, in MORE ways than one...

>>4350980
YOU ARE ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE EMOTIONALLY TROLLED BY SION-CHAN.

Think about this for a second, before you keep lambasting an entire group of people.

Is it the original PC version that got translated or that shitty DVD crap?

>>4350990
Personally seeing what the TM do every days with all these X CHARACTER IS A SLUT, EMIYA SHIROU, X CAN KILL SERVANTS and other shit threads that never stop, I'd say that this guy is right.

Wonder how they can still be amused by this sort of shit.

>>4351004
The thread about how every TM character saw Shirou trying to jump that bar was pretty cool though.

>>4351006
I remember that one.
Good stuff.

I'm worried about the new key game having sluts instead of the always pure heroins with the new writer team. I hope Maeda Jun won't let they write sluts in my key games.

>>4350995
Anyone mind answering?

I have been without internet for 5 days.

>>4350995
>>4351049
Are you talking about Phantom?

>>4350305
I thought it was pretty damn good myself. Could have been shorter though.

>>4351061
Yeah

>>4351069
Shitty DVD. It's a pain to make it even playable but it's damn worth it. Especially if you are a bad enough of a dude to save Cal from the evil rapist niggers.

>>4351004
Those are trolls. They do that with everything. If you believe it's real, then you have serious issues.

>>4351081
/jp/ Port to PC version project where?

>>4351107
Are there any torrents for the original version?

>>4351092
These threads represent Type-Moon here.
If they are trolls, where are the serious fans of TM that discuss it seriously?

>>4351124
They have discussed it enough after /jp/ was created and translating was finished and they do not have to repeat themselves, except maybe for cases of a new reader/fan who makes a thread?
The last time I posted at a TM thread was to state I play as V.Sion cause I enjoy her screams.
Also, assuming that the people who do these threads are exclusively TM fans and do not belong to other fanbases too where they do the same shit is kinda naive.

Steins;Gate translation fkin where?

>>4351152
Oh I'm sure some of them are fans of Umineko as well.
Some fans moved on, but saying that all the threads made about Type-Moon in general every fucking days ad nauseam are made by trolls is really naive.

I hate to agree with Sion but Nitro+ fans really are among the worst. Unless you compare them to Touhou fans, of course... but other than that, yeah... just as bad as Type-Moon fans.

It's cute that they think they're better, though.

Nitro+ is like the SquareEnix of the VN industry. Good shit most of the time with quality CGs but it's not for everyone

>>4351182
It's more naive to believe they aren't. Have you seen the number of shitty threads we have here with non-serious, nonsensical replies?

You've just gotta not care, man, otherwise they win.

>>4351182
If they are exactly the same, you should get a hint.

>>4351221
That sounds like the exact opposite.

>>4351221
Nice comparison to >>4350987

>>4351182
>implying you wouldn't defend your interests if someone insults them without cause

They're all the same. Just fans.

>>4351234
>>4351264

Alright alright, square enix was a bad comparison. Er, the SMT team from Atlus? Good shit, quality story and art, great music but it's not for everyone.

>>4351221
>>4351264
>>4351294

Guys, why don't we just stick to the metal groups analogy for VN companies? People seem to like that.

>>4351314
Except for the fags that hate metal.

There's always someone hatin'.

>>4351314
You mean this?
KID - Demetori
Nitro+ - Crows Claw
KEY - Myon Myon
Akabei soft - ~xi on~

>>4351333
>Key - Myon Myon
I didn't know you could liken Key to ANY metal group...

Or how about their comparisons to movies

Type-Moon - Twilight
Nitro+ - ..........someone help me

>>4351380
Nitro+ - Ghost in the shell

>>4351380
>Type-Moon - Twilight

Good morning, Twilight fag. Still trying to start shit, huh?

>>4351333
I was talking about real metal groups, not Japanese doujin groups. You know, Slayer, Iron Maiden and the like.

>>4351380
Nitro+ - Any Tarantino movie.

>>4351391
>Comparing a third party to a twilight fag

Denial is a bitch huh?

>>4351401

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAH no.

>>4351397
That was fucking retarded anyway.

>>4351409
You didn't get the Kill Bill vibe from playing Kikokugai?
But of course this is only from Kikokugai and not for the whole Nitro+ company.

>>4351407
Only a Twilight fag brings up Twilight.

It's scientifically proven.

>>4351391
it actually makes sense in Japan, because Type Moon is the most mainstream eroge maker ever there.

>>4351407
Well, it would make more sens to compare it to the BOOK for starters...

>>4351409
Well, we need something with lots of blood and seminal juice.

>>4351419
...No, they are not.
Seriously. They have 1 commercial VN for fuck's sake.

>>4351418
Get out Twilight fag.

movies are shit, any comparation you make will still rage the eroge fans because of incompatible tastes.

>I think I can safely say that this is the best VN company

Good thing you said VN. Because if you said eroge, you'd be very wrong. Alicesoft holds that title.

>>4351446
RANCE IS SO GAR XD

>>4351446

>>4351481
...No, he is not.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Are you dense? Are you retarded or something?

>>4350835
My first was Saya.

>>4351495
I'm sure half of the Rance threads in /a/ are like that.

>>4351481
>>4351489
Delicious butthurt tears.

>>4351481
>GAR
I wouldn't turned gay for Rance.

>>4351435
It's not worth it. Let them believe what they want to.

>>4351435
yes, and they milk the shit out of that because it's so mainstream that everyone will buy it.

>>4351529
...This comment makes no fucking sense.
Dedicated fanbase is a different issue too.

>>4351541
>...This comment makes no fucking sense.

It's a troll. It doesn't have to make sense.

がはははは

>>4351555
Trolling was better in the old days...

>>4351522
Damn it. She looks so familiar but I can't remember what she's from.

>>4351577
Trolling was never good.

>>4351605
妻みぐい aka Wife Eater

>>4351614
That's it! Thanks sir.... now I must go redownload the OVA.

>>4351608
You used to be goaded into making arguments, not having retards parading.

>>4351623
The number of retards became disproportionate to the number of people that could make an argument without choking on their own tongue.

>>4351541
And Twilight hasn't a dedicated fanbase too?
Stop to blind yourself, FSN is mainstream as fuck, it sold as much as Key and Leaf, back when they released To Heart 2.
I'm not saying they are the same thing, but it's an accurate paralel in the eroge/VN world. Regardless of quality.

>>4351621
Enjoy.

>>4351656
FSN is also being milked to hell and back.

so who won

Liar-Soft is pretty nice company too. They release lots of VNs and many of them are good.

>>4351857
Problem with Liar-soft is that playing one means playing the others.
By that I mean that they rehash the same narrative in most of their games, only with a different setting.
And their works often feel kinda anticlimatic.

>>4351656
You have no idea what MAINSTREAM is.
That's all.
Selling a lot alone does not cut it.
Milking is a different issue.
Applying MAINSTREAM to any commercial success is wrong and retarded.
It's not an insult, and you do not defend anybody's honor by saying 'this ain't mainstream'.
Disregarding that VNs are not mainstream by default of course.

>>4351876
While I agree that they do that in the series, it's unfair to say that applies to all of their games. Shogun 8, Forest and Inganock are totally different.

>>4351880
FSN is mainstream in Japan though.
Pretty much one of the only eroge that is well known by the "normal" people.
There's a reason why Saber entered the top 10 of the best female of 2010.

This, Sakura Wars and some key's game like Air or Clannad are pretty much the only VNs that can be considered mainstream.

>>4351903
>This, Sakura Wars and some key's game like Air or Clannad are pretty much the only VNs that can be considered mainstream.
ToHeart.

>>4351857
Only if you don't mind incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition. And incessant repetition.

>>4351903
Again, you miss the point.
'Favorite character' is a different thing all together.
Even with F/SN selling a lot as a VN and getting adaptations, it is not mainstream.
Very few things from this subculture actually are.

>>4351930
FSN is mainstream, as mainstream as an anime can be.
Seriously, stop trying, you obviously don't know how well it works in Japan.

>>4351917
I don't really mind it too much.

>>4351518
>Rance threads in /a/
What? /a/ have Rance threads, why?
Seriously, /a/ is like totally tsundere for /jp/ material

>>4351939
Especially since you brought up Anime, it is nowhere near close as famous or popular compared to actually mainstream series.
It has a dedicated fanbase, but that is it.
Just going by pure numbers.

>>4351944
They also have VN threads regulary.

>>4351944
I've see multiple Rance threads in:
/a/
/v/
/m/

And they've always been void of trolling. Unlike the /jp/ threads.

Sad, isn't it?

>>4351903
>There's a reason why Saber entered the top 10 of the best female of 2010.
You mean the one in Newtype?

>>4351963
They are far rarer and usually focused on gameplay.
We have had much more, so of course it gets trolled at some point.

Isn't just so that TM has a fairly large and as others have stated, dedicated fan-base and isquite well spread?
I really wouldn't call it mainstream because of that, that's kind of like calling Star Wars or Startrek mainstream
Startrek might still be doing quite well though, but you should see my point

>>4351983
What? Star Wars at the least is pretty much as main stream as it gets.

>>4351983
Star Wars could be called mainstream, even people who have not watched it or do not care about Sci-fi are very very likely to know, on an international scale.

TM is popular in the VN crowd(not an obscure title), is one of the fucking many that received adaptations (which are no exceptional within the anime crowd) and has a steady fanbase. But the scale is quite small in the end.

>>4351997
In the sci-fi genre nowadays I believe titles such as battle-star gallactica and other stuff are more mainstream, I may be the wrong person to state such claims though.

>>4352004
The anime of FSN sold about 28000 DVD by volumes, that's extremely good.
And it was an adaptation that was considered average by the fans, that should tell you about how big FSN is.
Eroge/VN usually never go as high.

>>4352010
28,000 sales in anime is very good, but nothing close to 'mainstream', not even extremely popular or 'one hit wonder'.
It shows that it has a bi steady fanbase.
Again, nothing to do with mainstream.

>>4352026
28000 make it enter in the fucking top 50 of the most successful anime ever.

>>4352010
Almost sure FSN the game sold more than 100k. (or maybe it was tsukihime, not sure). Source is the blog of some japanese eroge producer, where he says that only 3 makers managed to sell more than 100k copies and everything points to Key, Leaf and Type-Moon being those 3.

>>4352010
Because the anime series of these are usually complete shit? You read too much into it and overestimate F/SN's popularity/impact.

>>4352029
35 of these series would not be considered mainstream regardless.

>>4352030
If you count console, Sakura Wars 3 is the most successful by far.
For PC, FSN, FHA, To Heart 2 Xrated, Air, Clannad sold more than 100 000 for sure.
Then Fortune Arterial did as well if I remember correctly.

Hey is it actually possible to burn Phantom to a DVD burning program keep telling it wont fit a DVD

>>4352056
fuck oh well il grab one tomorrow

>>4352048
It cost like $2 on amazon, why not just buy it?

I have seen people praising Muramusa many times now but I haven't seen people explaining why.
Well, I did avoid the main maramusa threads in order to avoid spoilers but even so.

>>4350219
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

>>4352849
Amazing production value, beautiful story, awesome cast of characters.

The writing was fucking great, the setting was both very well explored and interesting, the cast was huge but the characters were pretty much all very well developed.
Thematically it was perfect, the main theme of the game was followed from the beginning to the very end.

It could be very dark at times but also very funny at some other times, I seriously laughed more during Muramasa than during many comedy eroge, it also could be very touching, end of the final route is just a killer.
It had the best fights I've seen in this media, production values were amazing, it surpassed Muv-Luv Alt.
The soundtrack was great and very fitting as well, the insert songs used during the final fights of each routes were a nice touch as well.
And that happy music that played during the most gruesome moments, goddam.

It had a few flaws, some scenes could be quite long for some people though I enjoyed the writing so much that I didn't personally care, it's a very long eroge though.
Also only 1-2 characters poses for the characters was pretty annoying.

I just want to play Demonbane.
Jast, WHEN?

It's somewhat odd that you would make a statement like that based on one VN, two really short ones, and a partial one. It's only a fraction of what they've produced. And I wonder how many works from other companies you've played, especially since it seems like you're limited to translated games.

There is nothing to say about this.
I had a hunch about it, but I didn’t expect it to be this good.

CROSS†CHANNEL （FlyingShine）

I’ll make this my family heirloom.
It’s both my good fortune and bad luck that I would meet this work which now reigns as an absolute and insurmountable wall.

Anyway the game is too amazing so everybody please play it! Oh man, I know saying all this is like I’m strangling my own neck, but I can’t stop myself from recommending it!

>>4354041
What are you trying to say, that Nasu liked Cross Channel? He liked Muramasa as well, you know.

>>4354041
Cross Channel is not a game, nor is it good. Go home.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9377729

Rokuhara was the best part of Muramasa.

If only Narahara was more of a reverse-weeaboo like Urobuchi. If only.

>>4354131
He'd still be a bad writer

>>4354131

Nothing say that he isn't.
At the very least he makes fun of the JAPAN IS SUPERIOR thinking shit quite a bit in Hanchirasu and Muramasa.

>>4354138
Are you implying that Muramasa is badly written?
No, nobody can be that retarded.

>>4354050
Because retarded TM fans are bashing CC?
When in fact is better than anything Nasu has done.

>>4354131
Well, Nitro+ has three good writers now, even if Urobuchi isn't working on VNs much anymore. That's pretty great.

>Nothing say that he isn't.
At the very least he makes fun of the JAPAN IS SUPERIOR thinking shit quite a bit in Hanchirasu and Muramasa.
Isn't he a pro kendo something? And while it may be parody it still has a strong japanese-like feeling to it's setting.

>>4354050
Nasu has shit taste and pretty much lost his touch since his last Fate foray. Reason with the lack of new material and indefinite delays for older stuff is that he just can't write good anymore.

>>4354265
Being a pro Kendoka doesn't mean you have to hate the west you know.
And Muramasa has a lots of focus on the western side of thing as well.

>>4354265
I thought the strong Japanese setting worked really well for Muramasa, though. I don't know why people seem to object to it so much; the game wouldn't have been half as atmospheric without out it.

>>4354265
>And while it may be parody it still has a strong japanese-like feeling to it's setting.

Well, yeah. It's still a japanese game in the end.

>>4354285
There are many japanese titles without much of a japanese feel. Japanese games will remain japanese and it usually shows on occasions, but how much really depends.

>>4350223
All I need is Jingai Makyo