/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Yosh new thread

yep this one

Why are you learning japanese?

>>42849420
yooooo 10/10 op!

>>42849420
>holodex.net
This is advertising which is against the rules on this site
There was already a perfectly fine thread up but this thread was made regardless specifically to advertise

>schizo is seething
Yep this is the one.

>>42849420
https://www.chatpdf.com/
I downloaded the entire tatsumoto blog in pdf and now I can talk to him!

Why are you learning Japanese?

Imagine using multiple ips to create fake engagement and to mass report a better thread just to plug your vtranny trash as fuck content

>>42849463

>>42849477
>>42849463
UOOOOOOO

>>42849463
剰女

>>42849476
You have not provided a single compelling argument why I should care what the OP looks like

>>42849463
I fucking love Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko Miko!!!!!

>>42849477
That is an english streamer who doesnt know japanese
Its not relevant to the thread

Don't mind me, just posting in the real thread.

>>42849492
Would you not then prefer the thread made first

>>42849512
You mean the troll thread with soulless art and no useful links some schizo made on page 5 just because of his overwhelming mental illness?

Hard pass.

>>42849512
It doesn't exist anymore. You also have not provided a compelling reason for me to care whether or not your threads get killed

>>42849518
yeah this anon won

>>42849518
>soulless art
Objectively more soulful than this threads op
>useful links
This is the intermediate thread though
>>>/int/djt
>>>/vt/djt
>>>/jp/hololive
>>>www.reddit.com/r/hololive

>intermediate thread
Biggest cope jabum made up as an excuse for why he and his cult never used Japanese

>>42849420
yoooo nice op!
>>42849463
i love japanese bakery security systems! also miorine!
>>42849477
鮫鮫
>>42849496
her live was so good!

>>42849492
Prematurely killing threads. We used to get new threads when the old one was on page 10, maybe page 9 if someone was angsty about having their picture in the OP.
For the past 3 months the average new thread has been made on page 7 to force the holo stuff in the OP, meaning threads are effectively dead as soon as they hit 311 posts. A new thread is made and the OP samefags the same tired replies for the first 50 posts to fake engagement, meanwhile the previous thread stays up for another 12+ hours.
The end result is /djt/ on /jp/ is dead. 60+% of the posts in any thread come from one person.

god i love the beginner thread!

this is the hololive thread

>>42849570
Im on jamals side with most language related things and ive been speaking japanese literally every single day for almost a year
Meanwhile holofags watch toddler content and pretend the streamer is their gf
>>42849573
Dont forget using multiple ips to report

>>42849582
no that would be >>42848267

>>42849573
Wrong, the previous thread was made on page 10. The one that tries to make early threads to force troll garbage on the op, is Unko, with his threads being made on page 7, 6, and 5 this time. You can see him spamming his disgusting pigs up there, too.

Alternate theory, nobody likes unko or his spam and that's why anything that stinks of him is always empty, including the aptly named "trash" threads.

>>42849590
signed

>>42849589
if i have to explain it it's no fun

>>42849573
We actually used to wait minutes to hours after a thread fell off the catalog to make a new one. But you have not provided a compelling reason why I should care that DJT is dead/dying.
If you care about a community, go post on the one in /int/. If you have antiflag autism, go to one of the millions of alt chans with actual moderation policies and post there. There's no reason to try and resuscitate this place, it is gone.

>>42849590
holo brutal
as for this anon, he won

i just hate unko lol

>>42849603
this guy gets it

which one?

imagine being that scared of fat and soft obasans

>>42849619
as for me 1 and 3

>>42849619
generic jk whores
yawn

>>42849590
Average. Plenty of holo threads have been made on page 7 without someone else making a thread first.
There have also been occassions where a holo thread will be made many hours after a new thread has already been made and samefag his hard to be get ahead in the post count. So it's not even an alternate OP/threadwar at that point.

>>42849492
>>42849603
>why I should care what the OP looks like
>why I should care that DJT is dead/dying
Different things.

>>42849463
You posted it.

don't complain, just move!
>>>/trash/54906821

>>42849518
1 and 2 looking fertile... they're virgins right...?

>>42849690
number 1's nickname is olive oil because she's extra virgin

lol he got the posts confused because he made them all himself

>>42849696
lmfao how embarrassing

>>42849661
>Different things
True, but the underlying concept is the same. I don't care what the OP looks like for the same reason I don't care that DJT is dead. DJT itself has no intrinsic value. It provides nothing other than quick entertainment. That has always been the case. I can get entertainment anywhere, so why would I care if a small source of entertainment disappears?

>>42849463
Ageing japanese population

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWskZx7Lp2Q

>>42849719
kami kyok

>>42849435
Fat 喪女s

>>42849463

>>42849772
Wtf there's a Mr. Koro anime?

yooooo 120 star endurance!
https://www.youtube.com/live/Hb9CxJmo67s?feature=share

>>42849792
That'll be a short endurance.

>>42849744
too fat
better

>>42849827
Too fat for what? Your dick wouldnt reach?

>>42849827
finally a good post

あのんさんあのんさん

冬アニメ継続視聴してるのどれですか


あと一応のシーズン分けで進撃の巨人は春アニメ扱いにするっぽい

>>42849858
>アニメ
見ない

https://twitter.com/akaihaato/status/1633301517964038146

natsume daisuki

>>42849827

>>42850030
chamma...

>>42849619
the correct answer is always the shortstack

Why are Japanese using xie xie so much recently?
Is it a JK trend?

>>42850150
they have accepted him as their lord and saviour

>>42850067
sauce

>>42850170
based

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/live/7cXowo5gHZM?feature=share

todays kyok
https://youtu.be/D9699zGTOBk

>>42850170
That's a relief. The deal with America wasn't going to save them.

ずっと昨夜でゲーム遊んだ.
正にレプをした.
とは言え自分を洗わないといけないでももっとゲーム遊びたい
どうかしら...

>>42850985
>昨夜で

>>42849420

>>42849420
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>>42849570
this is the intermediate thread tho

This is how you sound when you speak Japanese.

Anyone has materials for Kansai-ben?

I'm also looking for radio or YouTube channel to "train" my hear, preferably Kansai too.

>>42851597
Why bother?

If I learn the another 100 kanji... will I finally be able to read Japanese?

>>42851963
How many do you know now?

https://youtu.be/XpMyMRz_eVk

>>42852035
178

Person 1: ああ……兄貴もか。そういえば、よくコンビニのグラタン食べてたなぁ
Person 2: それ私も知ってます。コンビニのグラタンをよく食べていたので、ああ、この人はきっとグラタン星人なんだって思ったんですよ
Person 1: ……バルサン星人のパチモノみたいな
Person 2: ふふ。パチモノでも、グラタン星人の方がきっと人気出ますよ？　だって美味しいですし

I can read it, but I don't get the joke. I think there's a joke here. But I'm too dumb

>>42851963
Never gonna make it.

>>42851963
the rtk
based

nevermined
neverwill!

>>42852072
No, learning 100 more won't make a difference.

I stopped grinding a core 2000 deck to focus on immersion + sentence mining like many say you should but then I stopped immersing, now I feel my Japanese plateauing.

Even if a core 2000 deck isn't the most natural or ideal way to learn vocab, at least I was consistent, now I am not consistent about learning Japanese at all.

Should I grind core 2k again? I was sentence mining from immersion before but I didn't look forward to it and it felt like a drag.

>>42852175

>>42852177
>I was sentence mining from immersion before but I didn't look forward to it and it felt like a drag.
then stop sentence mining?

immersion is what will improve your nippongo
all the anki shit whether it's core or sentence cards are just a supplement so if they make you not want to immerse, cut them

>>42852177
No, you fucking retard. Do the 10k deck and when you run out of words, keep adding new ones manually until you hit 20k. There are over 2000 kanji you need to learn. What made you think that 2000 words would be enough?

Can you keep 'conjugating' 'passive' 'causitative' and 'potential' 'verbs'?
見る
見られる
見られられる
見られられられる
and so on

>>42852260
Yes.

>>42852260
Maybe.

>>42852260
Grammatically correct, but not natural
a la
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

瞑る
瞠る
cool

>>42852368
Is there a word for that, where there is a pair of kanji and a pictorial difference represents the difference in meaning?

>>42852206
The quantity of vocab doesn't scare me at all be it 2k, 20k, or 200k. What scares me is not making consistent progress.

Hmhm, thanks to japanese I now know that you can just control a cow by their ear!!! sensitive ears much?

bro fuck off with this

>>42852420
I don't follow. You're still doing the same amount of new cards, mining or core, right? So why do you think your progress is somehow less consistent?
The words you learn will become less common as your vocab grows, and the feeling of progress will decrease because you're not seeing words you learn constantly everywhere anymore. This is normal and will happen even if you just do premade core decks forever.

Just read, "mining" is a waste of time. Words have context, which is infinitely more important that the "definition" of the word, which is why most words don't have 1 definition.
>i'll just learn 6 definitions to try to get the gist, instead of just getting the gist from reading.
Doesn't work.

>>42849420

Here is my game:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2278390/yni/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=eZWuhsnhvd8
yay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgAcfmKLDcY


ユニyni^ I`ve got a 「Game Design」Degree in Japan、as a fairyPrincess of Ypony^ PARTY⑅^^

>Be sure to familiarize yourself with the Rules before posting
>rule 11
>Advertising (all forms) is not welcome—this includes any type of referral linking, "offers", soliciting, begging, stream threads, etc.

>>42852585
yay

>>42852585
>I`ve got a 「Game Design」Degree in Japan
Get your money back.

>>42852585
>Here is my game
Weird shit. Quote on quote "Game Design"

We need to stop use verbs and adjectives to describe japanese words
for example
There are doing and being words and the so-called adjectives are just being words
tabenai is just the tabe stem with nai attatched nai is a (not) being word
both these doing and being words have tenses nai -> nakatta etc.
There is really no word minai, it's just mi next to nai.
Compare that to english
run; running; ran. there is no word 'ning' and 'r'.
見 (and the vast majority of kanji) carries (at least some) meaning by itself.

Is 蒸す豚 steamed ham?

help
>>42852087

>>42852931
There's no joke, you fucking autist retard.

>>42852938
can you translate the line? yes I'm retarded

>>42852943
You lack the cultural clues because you're a retarded baka gaijin.

>>42852960
hey man, call me retarded but not for having not been born in japan.
what's the deal with the balsan man? tell me, nihon man

Does 歯痒い mean irritated because it causes you to grind your "itchy" teeth?

>うまい寿司屋を見つけたよ
Imagine eating a shop lmaooooo

>>42852601
I wonder what her anus looks like.

>>42852582
lol

Dropped, trash book 1 star. Never falling for reddit memes again.

>お局様
you WILL misread it

>>42853733
that explains that bitch's name from hxh

>>42853701
>A MEANING THAT CANNOT BE PREDICTED FROM ... THE CONSTITUENT ELEMENTS
>山登り
This book has gone off the rails, they are trolling at this point. A page ago, they ask you to memorize 40 different "groups" of counters.

I WILL PASS N1 THIS SUMMER AND NO ONE CAN STOP ME!

>>42853904
https://ja.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?go=%E8%A1%A8%E7%A4%BA&search=%E5%B1%B1%E7%99%BB%E3%82%8A&title=%E7%89%B9%E5%88%A5%3A%E6%A4%9C%E7%B4%A2&ns0=1
Not a word btw

this is clearly セクハラ

>>42854008
you just know

how do i get rid of the itch to always wating to save a word somewhere when i look it up. when watching animu?

>>42854008
i like 太いの

今日の曲
https://youtu.be/k0usYxw3pko

Is music a good way to learn Japanese? I do my Anki reps and sometimes watch vbijin, but I find myself listening to Japanese music more than anything. I get that song lyrics aren't representative of real sentences, but surely there's still things of worth in there. I like Tatsuro Yamashita, Jody is a banger.

>>42854145
>An EN girl actually got out of bed and contributing to something
Holy fuck did they point at gun at her or something?

>>42854308
amelia is always going out of her way to do shit like that it's just usually uninteresting and not worth noticing so you dont' notice it

Share mining template

>>42854566
I only have an E10 template sorry.

>>42854566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B60cj69MSmA

>>42854566
standard install of anki
write sentence or just word in field 1
highlight the word if it's in a sentence
copy paste dictionary entry into field 2

>>42854566

When should I branch off of the core deck to do my own cards

I hate you.

>>42854945
why do you have to ask it should happen instinctively

>>42854945
When you finish it. And by it, I mean the 10k deck.

>>42854962
So I shouldn't make a second deck of the stuff I see online until I finish core?

>>42854972
If you absolutely want to make your own cards, go ahead, but keep doing the 10k at the same time.

>>42854991
Oh, yeah. Of course. Okay, I just didn't want to add unhelpful info when I'm first starting. I'm about a month or two in but don't want to get overwhelmed.

>>42854945
As soon as you start immersing consistently.
You'll obviously end up with some duplicated words in the end, but who cares?

>>42855026
you can just reduce the daily new cards on the core deck to make room for the mining deck if it gets to be too much
and honestly you might end up ditching the core deck before you finish it

we're all gonna make it bros!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BCnL4a1yDs

>>42854962
Hi, can you send me the link for the 10k deck please????

curently playing xenogears and citan just learned すいせいい. thought it was 水勢威 at first but it's actually 火聖衣

Do mechakucha and muchakucha mean the same thing?

どちゃくそ

How's the grinding going today?

I feel like when I use a manga to immerse and find new vocab I start to just memorize what the bubble says rather than letting the actual word soak into my mind. Does anyone else feel this way?

>>42855172
no, just keep reading. you'll absorb the words as you repeatedly encounter them

>>42855172
no lol

what's the word for it again that describes her being wet before doing anything?

>>42855167
lazy day, just did anki and a little bit of reading. happy with my progress so far, almost confident i can pass n1 with points to spare.

Have>>42855601
you been studying for a long time?

>>42855601
How long have you been studying?

someone explain to me why astolfo gets all the girls

>>42851508
giwtwm
>>42853978
GMI!
>>42854008
yabe
>>42854145
kamikyok!
>>42854298
yes i love japanese music, here's a great playlist!
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQmVFdwvZgfXlb2RDXWV1NaPXgYPu786G
>>42854681
GMI!
>>42855046
true and correct, love that kyoku
>>42855061
kamige
>>42855601
gmi!

yosh today too, it is the time to study japanese!
goooood morning bros!
todays emmersion! https://www.youtube.com/live/Hb9CxJmo67s

>>42855627
>>42855636
a few years ago i studied for about a year before i gave up. then i basically started from scratch, this time i'm at 1.5 years or so, maybe a little more. not particularly fast but as long as i don't give up this time i'm gonna make it.

linnies are starting to feel too baby

>やよいにジュリアの歌を歌う欲しい

Can anyone help me understand what に does here? I understand the use but I can't find any information on a non directional use of に

low iqcel here. i'm starting to feel very comfortable with vinnies and anime so i wanna try real novels now. anyone know good novels for adults (non h)??. i could borrow some from the state library but i don't wanna pay for the membership there. also I could ask my local bookstore to order some novels from japan for me but that would take 4 weeks per order before the book would arrive.

>>42855954
It depends on the genre you like, tell me some genres that you like and I'll tell you some

>>42855965
haven't read a book in a long time but i remember liking crime and dramatic literature

Newbie here, been trying to download anki deck to my Mac, but it won’t let me. Can anyone help?

>>42855984
i know a few, but theare is
1
"Gosick" by Kazuki Sakuraba - This novel is set in a European country during the early 20th century and follows the story of a student and a mysterious girl who solve crimes together.

2
"The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" by Nagaru Tanigawa - This novel follows the story of Haruhi Suzumiya, a high school student who unknowingly has the power to shape reality, and the club she forms with her friends to investigate supernatural phenomena.
this was been adapted into anime and manga too
also, if you want only literature you have
"The Tokyo Zodiac Murders" by Soji Shimada
"Inspector Imanishi Investigates" by Seicho Matsumoto

>>42856013
saved! will look through them

>>42856013
is this an ai response

nice blanket
the moose seems pleased

>>42856119
>not planning to shikoru tomorrow to a certain hon just to end up nukuing to some random twitter lewd
ngmi

>>42856111
is this a gay guy response

when i'm with og you can bet i get the gokuusu ones

>>42854586
i liked this, any more recos? some kinos perhaps

Hey, guys. I took Wareya's jpstats tool and ordered around 9k books (that were in a mega drive in DJT before) by difficulty.

TLDR is if you're a japlet but want to read novels you should start with ROOM NO.1301.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AjSALmuTC3zudkKU8KCS0CACXHzAU_sAQrJf4KspIb4/edit?usp=sharing

>>42849420
Guys I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly this "ほど" does after the 染み渡る.
For context, it's comes from the song "Shout and Bites" (Versailles)

>絡み付いた薔薇の棘が黒い死神を突き刺して笑う
Karami tsuita bara no toge ga Kuroi shinigami wo tsuki sashite warau
>絡み付いた薔薇の毒が染み渡るほど Ah…眠れないね
Karami tsuita bara no doku ga shimi wataru hodo Ah...nemurenai ne


I understand the typical use for "hodo", like describing the extent of something in the verse below:
淫らな程綺麗ね
midarana hodokirei ne

But I don't get what it does after the "shimiwataru" in the first example, could you guys help me?

>>42852556
the problem is I stopped doing new cards completely. Sentence mining discouraged me from immersing at all, so I just kinda stopped doing any Japanese study. I stopped immersing AND grinding core so I literally didn't progress for like 6 months. I'm trying to get back on the horse now in a way that won't cause me to burn out and quit. (Surprisingly I actually enjoy grinding core decks as long as reviews don't pile up).

I suppose I prefer new vocab to be spoonfed to me rather than me hunting i+1 sentences manually.

What exactly is this な, in 逃げな? is it similar to 逃げなさい?

are 怖い夢 and 夢魔 like 'bad dream' and 'nightmare' in english where they're basically interchangeable just having different connotations?

服の上でマンいじり

>>42856877
lot more fun in theory than in real life

>>42856748
Just read more and worry less dude. Stop chasing cards and i+1s. Get out there and have fun.

>>42855944
Please respond

歴史mersion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVU-SMca7ng

>>42849420
Watching JP vtubers not care about the Harry Potter drama or loli has made me curious, are there any current or past topics that someone should avoid at all costs? What does Japanese culture war look like?

eating japanese frozen pizza

intensive immersion is all you need, free flow is just snake oil

>>42856751
don't

>>42857265
if you need to be told what to do to make it you are ngmi

>>42856751
な after masu stems is typically a contraction of なさい as it also is in your pic just as you suspected

>masu stems

>masu

spoke japanese for 4 and a half hours today

just became japanese

that one time i was reincarnated as a nip msgk

krashen was right btw input = output

you will never be japanese
but you could recreate a town and look at them like zoo animals in the late 19th century

what the FUCK

>>42857763
this is legit freaky, a japanese guy i was talking to half an hour ago brought up this exact example when we were talking about pitch and shit. what the fuck

mood of the day: ショタパイズリ

>>42857763
Nothing difficult about this at all. You'd know exactly what was being said here if someone came up to you and said it aloud.

i got it when he said it tbqh, the はし one is harder

Which one of these is best

>>42857850
the one that makes you give up the fastest

>>42857768
a dude who dropped out of my cs 101 course and told me he could probably pass the n5 mentioned this

>>42857850
the rtk
based
(heisig)

>>42857873
Thx

i try to speak the minimum amount of japanese that can still get me the maximum amount of sex

>>42857873
>>42857881
Lmfao I think I set it up wrong

>>42857930
look, i was trying to cripple you

>>42857935
Cringe

>>42857945

best app/game to find girls? preferably non picky who would just like to hang out
vc also great
done with the bitch ass dating apps in this country

>>42858055
are you lost

>>42858055
a retirement home

mined over a hundred words today
need to find a better way but i'm too low iq to remember anything if I don't use anki
it's over

any good jidaigekis with jp subs?

>>42858067
which general should i go to? something similar to hellotalk is not off topic

>>42858129
congrats on getting 2 days of words, it's always hard to find enough

>>42858143
reddit

>>42858148
how about your mother's beddit

>>42858055
kill yourself faggot
or alternatively think for yourself just a little bit
if you are decent looking, white and speak even just enough japanese to have a conversation japan is the easiest place in the world to get laid
anyone who tells you otherwise is either short, ugly, not white, doesnt speak japanese or multiple of the above

>>42858165
i've been thinking for a long time. got any tips? be specific. place, age group, signs to look out for

id go full enkou if i was in nipland

>>42858178
my tip is to speak to a lot of women and flirt with the ones that make it obvious that they are attracted to you
if they at any point imply that they dont want to fuck you, you leave them alone and deny them an orbiter

just don't be the guy she's talking about
https://www.tiktok.com/@yumekaumemori/video/7194179636631211265

Is it correct to write 出来てて instead of 出来ていて?
I want to sound more casual

>>42858205
couldnt finish watching

>>42858217
what is this question my nigga
go splash some cold water on your face and wake up

>>42858217
出てこいこっら！

>>42858263
How can I write “ you can do this thing easily too.. amazing”
What came to me “ そなことまで簡単に出来ていて…すごい”
I should really go wash my face

>>42858300
id probably say そんな簡単に出来んな

threads pretty nice when mlenigger is sleeping

one day he'll get bored and move on

what is the relation between to go
行く
and to preform
行う
i see both use the same kanji, is there any transformation that relates the two?

>>42858545
transformation? the hell are you talking about?
they're just 2 different words that happen to use the same kanji

>>42858553
thanks for the answer
regarding transformation, i was talking about when verbs get suffix pasted on (like れる） or they get thier last letter change vowel (くinto　け for example) or when their last letter completly dropped (i only know it happens to 　る　 in ichidan)

>>42858491
delusional retard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4rR97dXd3Q
yooooo

>>42858580
Choco your coins...

>>42858574
it's the certain fate of every poster

457
491
>>42849683

>>42858605
based

>>42858602
wrong ive been here almost every day for years

>>42858611
and one day
you wont

>>42858591
i can fix her

>>42858614
it could be a decade
the point is i come here even when its boring and utter shit. you dont understand why some people keep coming back

but it will happen that's the thing

>>42858638
if you have to wait longer than 4chans been around for then your point is moot

Whats with the schizo spam?

>>42858648
the mentally ill guy is going off about his imaginary friend again, just let the cleaning crowd know

>>42858644
what point? all that i said was eventually every poster will eventually get bored and leave
you, me and your boogeyman

>>42855167
played like 6 hours of danganronpa
fun game, the japanese is easy too

>>42858682
kamige
the shows great too

>>42858580
Might as well, nobody is live. Her eggs better live up to their legend.

>>42858694
once i finish 2 im gonna watch 1's anime to refresh my memory and go through both 1 and 2's weird extra modes. 2 is kino so far, expected after how good 1 and 0 were

tonights kyok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wNSFmqhQsU

>>42858706
still have to play 3, i should get on that

What is the most offensive word in japanese language?

>>42858810
なめします

>>42858815
That isn't offensive at all.

>>42858810
oh my god なときにつかうことばですか

f***　なときにつかうことばですか

>>42856748
>Sentence mining discouraged me from immersing at all
why? that doesn't make any sense to me
unless you were doing thinsg manually and therefore adding a big annoyance time sink every time you have to add a card

mining should be near-effortless, that's the point of all these tools like ankiconnect and yomichan. Personally I don't even do sentence mining, just direct single-word cards, so I don't have to stop and think about whether this is the only word I don't know in the sentence.

>そうね。多分、あなた以外の誰も、彼を動かすことはできないんじゃなかったんじゃないかしら
how the fuck do I process this, I can guess what it mean from context but I have no idea how these 3 negatives work and I probably would think it means the opposite without context

>>42858896
that is a shitty sentence even if a native made it

>>42858896
I'm assuming it's "apart from you, anyone could have moved him?", I can't imagine this being a negative sentence

>>42858936
(2) あなた以外の誰も、(1) 彼を動かすことはできないんじゃなかった (3) じゃないかしら

(3) isn't it the case that (2) other than you, everybody else (3) would not have been able to move him?

>>42858948
whoops, fucked it up, last 3 should have been a 1

>>42858896
ないかしらはネガティブでないので

ふつうの二重否定だよ

>>42852468
That 牛耳る idiom is ooooooold, goes all the way back to the Spring And Autumn/Warring States period, over two thousand years ago. Refers to the main dude in an alliance who leads a blood sacrifice ceremony with a cow.

>>42858948
>>42858954
I can't wrap my head around double negative
why ないわけではない = positive but ないではない = negative
this doesn't make any sense

>>42852468
n5

>>42852468
Why does everyone use Anki on desktop? Using it on mobile feels much more comfortable (no, I'm not a phonefag)

>>42849423
>>42849431
looks like there's a new page in the guide! posted today
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/reading-books

>>42859049
KEK ARE YOU NUTS?‼? thats tatsucuckholds site, thats a mentally ill spammer friend, never take anything said there seriously
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=tatsumoto
https://find.4chan.org/?q=tatsumoto#top
proof
he just began spamming again, hope the mods filter his worthless spam soon‼

>>42849456
based

>>42859055
analcream, why are you still here? don't you have school homework to do?

>>42849503
Has sung more japanese and gotten more vocal training than you have put time into anything but """mining"""
She knows more japanese than you after 2 years of speaking with natives than you after 10 years of anki and """mining"""

>>42859086
i havent done anki in over a year and i had japanese period blood on my dick last night
im so much better than her and you (一応) that its not even funny

>>42859049
God damn I couldn't make it 3 minutes into reading that shit. "Tatsu"cuckhold truely is a retard, he should take his meme daddies (luke smiths) advice and stop with the anki nonsense. How are you going to pretend to be a "minimalist" using that shit lmao.
You cannot hold the opinion that electron is bad while using anki without your brain breaking from the contradiction, unless you have no clue what you are talking about, i.e. this script kiddy retard.

>>42859037
I use it on phone when I'm not in my room, and on pc when I'm in my room. Pretty simple.

>>42859102
Holy shit, I just read his plumbing guide, this guy is a complete retard. How do you fail to understand such a simple concept. There are dedicated plumbing programs, you retarded fuckwad. You do NOT write a script with a million sites in it and fail at parsing everything yourself. I hope nobody downloads this near malware.

yoooo law emmersion
https://www.youtube.com/live/je1Ys50VNe0?feature=share

>>42859102
no one said anki was good tho
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/spaced-repetition#anki

>>42859143
>There are dedicated plumbing programs
programs that take 3GiB of disk space and are written in electron? if there are decent plumbing programs, give some examples.

luke smith never used any plumbing programs. the plumbing script that tatsumoto talks about is based on luke's idea.

>>42859178
How about p9port you fucking retard or the 50 other ones on github.
It's not even plumbing you are just adding copying text to a link, and you have to select the link you want.
Plumbing is automatic. i.e. Opening a link in your browser, or if the link is to a pdf opening it your pdf reader etc.

>>42859191
> Plumbing is automatic. i.e. Opening a link in your browser, or if the link is to a pdf opening it your pdf reader etc.
I agree. Tatsumoto's script automatically opens some files and folders, but you can't really automatically plumb selected text in Japanese. You may want to plumb it to qolibri, or to another app. So you have to choose using dmenu.
>p9port
But that's a meme without features lol

you are not funny

>>42859204
No, it automatically opens a list of urls that you have to type.
At that point just copy the fucking text and type the url, let it autocomplete, then copy the text in the obvious place.
Plumbing would be highlighting it, pressing your plumb key and then having that script run. That's plan 9's philosophy, not having each script handle their own input. It's the exact problem plan 9 solved ~50 years ago. Which is why Tatsucuckold is a retarded scriptkiddy.
>But that's a meme without features lol
Retard

>>42854298
see https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/passive-listening#choosing-content

>>42859232
>Plumbing would be highlighting it, pressing your plumb key and then having that script run.
doesn't cabl do the same thing?

>>42859242
No.
When you press your plumb key depending on the text you have highlighted (or in your clipboard) a different script will run.
That's what plumbing means.

Can someone explain the N 5-1 level criteria to me? Why would 傘, as in the word, be N5, but 傘 as in the Kanji, be N1? This is beyond absurd. I would have accepted it if it was something like 有る which rarely is used with kanji.

>>42859299
the word lists are not official afaik, they're just some shit compiled by random people from existing tests

>>42859299
Because the word is easy and fairly common, but most other words with that kanji are fairly rare.
(落)傘下
日傘
Is all of them.

>>42859268
let's say you select the word うんこ and the word まんこ. what different scripts are going to run in each case?

>>42859326
That's besides the point. A plumbing program would detect some level of japanese and then start a script like tastucuckholds or possible another one if it's some specific japanese that looks like unique input to a program.
Maybe cuckhold script starts, but you want all yojijukugo to just have a popup notification from some dictionary api.

>>42859351
>Maybe cuckhold's script starts for most,*

>>42859321
>the word is easy and fairly common, but most other words with that kanji are fairly rare
So? You'd guess once you "learned" 傘 the word, you'd also recognize the kanji in other words, especially if the word is just a single kanji.

>>42859369
How often is the word 日傘 going to appear on a grammar test retard?
>i'll just guess
Niggers like you are why the jlpt is so tedious.

how can japs say things like ミルクをガブガブ飲みました or ぐるぐる回る with a straight face? don't they feel even a tiny bit ashamed talking like 2 years old baby?

all the obasans use 日傘s because they wish they were white

>>42859427
The Japanese are an infantile race, which is why they are all pedophiles.

>>42859468
also the females luckily

>>42859468
So ka...

>>42859452
And contact lenses.

Confess your sins, DJT.

>finish n1 deck
>do n1 old tests
>tons of words i don't know

>>42859671
I read an english book today.

>こちらこそありがとうございます
what does the first part of this imply?
also, i have to thank anon who recommended hellotalk
just yesterday i quickly participated in live conversation with a cute nip, and got called beautiful

>>42859888
I'M the one who should thank you

>>42859736
Who told you to do some shitty n1 deck? We certainly didn't.

>>42857274
I think you're thinking 逃げるな, it's different from 逃げな

>>42860033
>I think you're thinking 逃げるな, it's different from 逃げな
Not to be confused with 逃げんな which is same as the first one.

>>42859888
>get asked my hobby
>immediately leave chat
This is how it's going to go for me

>>42860069
too late I already got it mixed 5000 times

>>42859918
nice

>>42860080
what's the hobby?
inb4 vtube shit

>>42859037
Mobile client is better for review, desktop client far better for adding and editing. It has many functions entirely absent from the mobile.

>>42859321
Huh, I never before noticed just how rare 傘 is. I could only add 傘蓋 and 傘寿 to that list, and those are even rarer.

>>42860194
sanju is common as fuck noob lol

>>42860219
I’ve never once seen 傘寿 used, but I don’t hang around old ladies much, so it doesn’t come up a lot.

Tsunomaki streamsniping subaru very cringe.

>>42860219
nta but just showed a japanese lady the 字 and she didnt know it

>>42859369
you won't be able to read it without first seeing another onyomi jukugo

>>42860813
shut up

>>42860919
why

>>42858896
>>42858954
ネガティブを打ち消すと

>あなただけが彼を動かせた

これだけ

The most basic mistake people make when trying to read Japanese is to think that the particles are "marking" the previous word.
This is completely backwards. The previous word is modifying the particle.
Japanese isn't a backwards language, yes the verb comes at the end so you do have to wait for the complete sentence to understand, but you shouldn't be reading any way other than sequentially. If you have to, pick a point and start reread from there, do not confuse yourself by reading backwards.
Imagine spending months fooling yourself into thinking you are learning english by reading sentences like
"quick the brown fox jumped the over lazy dog"

>>42860990
>Japanese isn't a backwards language
lol

お早う

>read something
>grasp the intention
>know the words
>understand the grammar
>it makes sense in context
>look it all up anyway because i can't shake the feeling that I'm wrong and making shit up
>understood it well all along

>just knows and have always known everything

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crO0Q4ol97M

>>42861655
Ｗoah...
How have I never seen that

>>42861777
Kamikyok

>>42861777
uoooooo

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/live/U5R_vdU8rlI?feature=share

>>42861920
kek forgot falls are insta deaths

>>42861665
Read more. By the time you look up shit, you could have finished the page.

>>42862025
https://streamable.com/e1vuxm

>>42861920
kaigainiki have no hope understanding luna's speach.

>>42862025
the egg's shadow came first

>>42862025
The best reading material is stuff that's ever so slightly outside your current knowledge so that you're learning through context as well as through research and applied study. So "just read more" starts with correctly identifying reading material that's suitable for your purposes and at the right level of mastery for you to get something out of it. Then you just...read. You look things up where absolutely necessary, you research grammar or kanji where required, but if you choice well then you'll have to do only a minimal amount of legwork and can enjoy the process for the most part.

>>42862075
i kinda understand her most of the time but i wouldn't be able to explain what she says...

>>42849420
I've read the entire Itazuraneko/learnjapanese.moe/animecards beginner guides and I ended up starting with the Tango N5 deck instead of the Core 2.3k as it is recommended in the https://learnjapanese.moe/resources/ guide.

However I'm kinda skeptical if this deck is giving a decent definition for the beginner vocabulary.
To be more specific, I'm on my third day of this Tango N5 deck and I was already convinced that こちらこそ meant simply "me too / same here" but after looking up other places I realized that it's way deeper than something like "I love icecream --> me too"

The wikitionary definition of こちらこそ as "I'm the one that should really be saying that." gives me way better understanding than "me too/same here".
Now I know it can be used in reply to an apology for example.

Is Tango N5 really a better recommended before I go into the Core 2.3k?
I don't want to invest time in a deck with scuffed sentence definitions.

This is the Tango N5
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pMlJvSrKQOSaiN8sPLdNDvWP31EClxDO/view?usp=sharing

Tango N4
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WX9AAKJgiTKN-SySPzuGG8T4nXVhWaSi/view?usp=sharing

>>42862193
bro just watch watame and start mining and work your way up from there, beginner decks are a scam

>>42862213
this

>>42862213
Is Watame or Okayu a better starter?

hello, sorry I'm tech-illiterate and need to ask something.
Is it possible to "renew" a flash card in anki so that it's generated from yomichan again?
I have thousands of vocabulary that I made via yomichan when I didn't have enough dictionaries loaded into it and now I'd like to add more dictionary definitions.

see pic for what I mean basically - left is old, right contains more dictionary definitions.

It's an absolute pain in the ass to do this manually (deleting the old flash card and generating it manually via yomichan again)

>>42862193
another soul lost to the eternal limbo of "HOW DO I GET STARTED/WASTE THE LEAST TIME LEARNING/WHAT'S THE BEST RESOURCE"
rip in piss

>be japanese man
>go to school for decades to learn linguistics
>learn english and japanese study them extensively for decades
>write a book explaining the meanings of japanese idioms in english
>write extensive essays for each one and background knowledge that is neccessary for understanding, put a few similar english phrases with each one

>be 1st year japanese student redditor
>write shitty script to rip out the similar phrases from the above book
>jam them in an anki deck
>"why read books when anki exists"

I am trying to learn hiragana and katakana and started learning/practicing the writing.

Is there a logic to the stroke order that would help me memorize? I am the type of person who likes to know "why" certain things are done, so this may help me understand.

Does it relate to the direction of writing (traditionally)? Is it something else? Thanks!

>>42862384
top to bottom and left to right

>>42862330
In theory yes, in practice no.
You are better off rolling your own anki as the developers have gone insane, and it just shit ontop of shit at this point.
Just make some files 1day 2day 5day 10day etc and put the words in there and open it with a browser.

>>42862395
okay, thanks

>>42862395
>gone insane
How so? Seems perfectly reasonable for a flashcard app. Browsers are larger.

>>42862263
Controversial take: Koyori

>>42862460
>>42862263
>>42862213
Controversial take: A japanese grammar textbook and a japanese book.

>>42862384
From the "Kodansha Kanji Learner's Course" book.
A rundown of the stroke order in different situations.

You probably won't find a pdf for this book with decent quality around the internet so i'm going to share the best one i could find (380mb).
https://mega.nz/file/ncYFXTyJ#KXwmhJu4QogtPasf0wt_zxyGvIfnm4gXxKsmdIv51sQ

It's a nice kanji book to have in your arsenal even if you don't plan on using it now.

>>42862470
http://library.lol/main/15a0a057cda9cef04bb34a9cabdf5254
better version.

>>42862467
too far bro. too far.

庭には２羽ニワトリがいます。
dumb language

>>42862482

That's what i mean't with "You probably won't find a pdf for this book with decent quality" >>42862470

The one you linked is the 73mb, when you zoom in some text have terrible quality, which is bad for beginners trying to figure out the little kanjis.
The ones from Z-lib and similar websites are also 60mb-70mb, that's why i mentioned this 380mb version is pretty much the best one I could find on the internet.

>>42862525
You realize it's the same character, right? You are just wasting 250 megs and your pages are unaligned. Enjoy your shit, I guess.

>>42862525
Also you are trolling retard this is the one I linked.

>>42862554
Yeah i can see this one fine

do any of you guys actually know japanese lmao

>>42862569
What's so funny you little FUCKJNG BITCH. KILL YOURSELF.

>>42862569
yep

>>42862601
prove it

>>42862470
>>42862482
>>42862536

>The year is 2023
>Picking the WORST version of a relevant book in order to save 200-300mb
>Not wanting to have the BEST version of something stored for ever when you have the chance.

Whatever man, some people just don't have the mentality for long term archiving of relevant files...

>>42862635
nta but why would you want to store it forever? youll outgrow it sorta fast

>>42862635
>long term archiving of relevant files
Your retarded, the "archive" is the troff or tex file they used to make the book
And it's "relevant" insofar as you don't have internet.
Good luck trying to read compressed Japanese, idiot.

Why does 討つ have the speech radical?

>>42862679
https://kotobank.jp/word/%E8%A8%8E%E3%81%A4-440729

>>42862679
it's also in lots of words about arguing and discussion
if I had to guess id say the 'attack' meaning came after that, directly from the idea of verbally attacking

(pulled out of my ass)

What's your favorite radical? Mine is 乡.

>>42862569
i know enough to pass a meme test with full marks

>>42862704
討論

why do the body part related kanji all use 月?

>>42862713
baaaaaased

>>42862725
They confused it with the meat radical 肉, but by the time they noticed their mistake, they were too embarrassed to fix it.

>>42849420
Is it possible to do it from the beginning? They always say that the problem is getting sentences i+1, but why not make 5 or 6 cards from the same sentence and that's it?

Is it possible to do sentence mining from the beginning? You always say that the problem is getting sentences i+1, but why not make 5 or 6 cards from the same sentence and that's it?

>>42862812
the point of a sentence card is that you have the rest of a sentence for context to prod your memory
if you don't know any of the other words it's pointless, may as well just have a lone word card

>>42862812
>Is it possible to do sentence mining from the beginning?
yes, you just gotta search for shorter sentences

>>42857010
D>>42855944
Also, what's には used like

>>42862820
I mean obviously making 5 or 6 lone word cards from that sentence, anyway at first you know absolutely nothing, but at least that sentence would be in a context that you know

>>42862812
It's fucking stupid. Sentence mining in general is fucking stupid.

>出ず
is this でず?

>>42858888
>unless you were doing things manually and adding a big annoyance time sink every time you have to add a card

Exactly, my sentence mining work flow involved noticing an i+1 sentence, highlighting the sentence from subtitles, opening an anki new card window, pasting the sentence into the expression field, taking a screenshot of what I was watching, pasting the screenshot over the expression, and then copying and pasting the new word + it's definition into the meaning field (sometimes in English and sometimes in Japanese depending on if I could understand the JP to JP dictionary definition).

My minimum new card goal was 10 per day so I would do this at least 10 times though some times more if I wanted to get ahead on new cards. I'm sure this method was inefficient but all things considered I got pretty fast at doing it and could make a new card in under a minute.

I got tired of pausing what I was watching to make a new card every couple of minutes.

>>42857004
Thanks for the encouragement anon, I'll try to worry less and simply engage with the language more often.

sticking to i+1 means you're limited in what you desire to read
for me? i'm i+100 but i'm enjoying myself more reading rape manga than I would reading SOL