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The final Episode of Umineko will reveal that Umineko was actually an episode of Star Trek.

The game was thought up by Q (Lambdadelta) to pit The Borg Queen (Beato) and Data (Battler) against each other to teach them about humanity, including emotions, love, and famous detective fiction.

The evidence for this can be heard at the start of system0.ogg, where Data remembers his and one of the Borg Queen's verbal exchanges.

this ending makes more sense than Shkannontrice

>> No.4212589

Fund it.

>> No.4212594
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4212594

Wow. Just wow.

>> No.4212598

Au contraire, mon capitan...

>> No.4212611

Kinzo is Captain Picard, who had a previous relationship with the Borg queen that did not end so well, but there is still a part of him that wants to be with her.

>> No.4212620

>>4212611
Oh shit.

>> No.4212631

>>4212582

Wait, I think I've already seen this episode

>> No.4212651
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>>4212620
His alter ego, Goldsmith, is actually...

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>>4212651
My mind has been blown.

>> No.4212676

but theres no device X rule. so the whole star trek thing fail.

>> No.4212685

I wish I were a Star trek geek to understand this ;_;

>> No.4212689

>>4212676
Knox rules don't apply to the metagame.

>> No.4212701

As long as it ends with Battler fucking Jessica, go for it.

>> No.4212707

>>4212685

Q and his race = Star Trek: Voyager witches

Humanity (Star Trek verse) = pieces (some of which are able to interact with Q and his kind a la Battler)

To learn more, just watch any Trek episode that focuses on Q.

>> No.4212711

But then, who is Bernkastel? Simply another entity from the Q Continuum?

>> No.4212728
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4212728

>>4212711
Q did want to fuck her at one point.

>> No.4212751

>>4212728
Makes sense. And Featherine would be...?

>> No.4212776

BELIEVING ONESELF TO BE PERFECT IS....OFTEN THE SIGN OF A DELUSIONAL MIND.

SMALL WORDS, FROM A SMALL BEING, TRYING TO ATTACK WHAT IT DOESN'T UNDERSTAND!

>> No.4212782

>>4212751

7 of 9?

>> No.4212787

>>4212701
Wow, do I have an unknown clone of myself or something?
I too, want a Jessica end.
Moon-chan is the best, after all.

>> No.4212796

>>4212776
There's your clue, Knox's 8th is satisfied.

Or was it the 6th? I don't remember.

>> No.4212800

Haha, oh wow

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>>4212787
Little moon girls are the best.

>> No.4212811

A+++ theory, would read again, will favor this over Shkannontrice

it actually does make more sense

>> No.4212821

>>4212751

Voyager finale Janeway

>> No.4212829

>>4212811
What do you think of Fusiontrice?

>> No.4212833

>>4212787
At the risk of sounding like a newfag, why does the word moon and Jessica seem interchangeable? Is it because of that running Jessitrice joke, and how Kanon calls Beatrice the moon?

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4212842

>>4212833

>> No.4212848

>>4212833
Jessica's official tarot card is The Moon, a tarot that is known for deception and secrets.

>> No.4212850

>>4212842
Complete with yaranaika moon.

>> No.4212854

>>4212833

>Kanon calls Beatrice the moon

..I forgot about that..

>> No.4212856

>>4212848
Not to mention she's sketchy to begin with.

>> No.4212865

The various truths employed over the course of umineko are actually new weapons developed for use against the borg. Gold truth = transphasic torpedo same.

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>>4212854
Yeah, well, Kanon is Beatrice anyway so he's just hurling epithets at himself.

>> No.4212884

Dlanor and company are Vulcans. Just because.

>> No.4212892

>>4212854
Yeah, come to think of it, he did, didn't he?
That's..... most likely a coincidence....right?

>> No.4212894

>>4212882
Who is just another personality of Shannon.

>> No.4212899

>>4212882
Ah, herrings are best served while red. Maria is a 9 year old girl, not an all-seeing god.

>> No.4212914

>>4212899
Dude, Maria is the one who would know best, besides whoever is Beatrice.

>> No.4212917
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4212917

Why is this turning into a regular Umineko thread?

>> No.4212920

>>4212914

Maria is Beatrice.

>> No.4212924

>>4212914
Aside from the fact that she's like retarded.

Assburgers, at the very least.

>> No.4212928

>>4212917

Because we have feasted on absurdity for so long we know all the shortcuts back to the old arguments.

>> No.4212938

>>4212914
You mean a 9 year old girl would know who Beatrice is best? You do realize Maria is on Rokkenjima for about 6 day in her entire life.
Hell, any person with a wig could easily trick her.

>> No.4212943

>>4212938
On the other hand, Kanontrice would enable Jessica x Beatrice doujins.
So I'll shut up now.

>> No.4212966

>>4212928
Yes, believe it or not, the Borg argument is one of the more rational I've seen as of late.
The most rational being Fusiontrice.

>> No.4212971

>>4212943
It would also enable more BattlerxKanon, do you really want that?

>> No.4212982
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4212982

Sakutaro.

>> No.4212987

So, if Kanon is Beatrice,does that mean he's gay for Battler?

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>>4212971
With Kanon as a loli, yes!
With Kanon as Kanon....
perhaps I should reconsider.

>> No.4213012

>>4212938
>>Implying that the siblings dont visit the mansion on their own every once in a while

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>>4212982
Nah, this is obviously Sakutaro. Maria is Seven of Nine.

>> No.4213015

>>4212982

Now I'm thinking of that episode with the space Siren harem.

>> No.4213017

>>4212982

I'd say Battler, but he's only incompetent, not useless as well.

>> No.4213019

>>4212994
Don't worry, Kanon's a loli. A black haired, DFC loli who has another personality that wears pads.

>> No.4213023

>>4213012
What? When was that mentioned? I was under the impression George was too fat to go to the mansion more than once a year.

>> No.4213024

>>4213014

Bullshit, who do you think Dr. Nanjou is?

>> No.4213028

>>4213024
An accomplice to the culprit(s).

>> No.4213031

>>4213023
Like plenty of times in ep1

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>>4213024

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>> No.4213040

>>4213031
Nah, Rosa stays the hell away from the mansion.
Rosa is too busy going on, er, buisness trips for that.

>> No.4213046

>>4213033

Riker is a faggot, and Q fucking loves him. He'd be something in the meta... game...

Oh fuck, he's god damned Ronove!

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4213054

Fuck all you guys, this is Sakutarou

>> No.4213055

>>4213040
Of course, she could just leave her daughter there and go to a one year long business trip...

I wouldnt put it past rosa

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>>4213040

>> No.4213061

>>4213054
No, Neelix is Gohda. Think about it.

>> No.4213074

>>4213054

Nah, it's Gohda because they both belong in the fucking kitchen.

>> No.4213083

>>4213055
Nah, then Jessica, Krauss, and Natsuhi would know her alot better.
I'm sure Maria, being the retard she is, has studied Beatrice extensively, but don't take that to mean that she is a Beato detector.

>> No.4213086

>>4213061

But Neelix acts nothing like Gohda.

>> No.4213102

>>4213083
Jessica could know yest and if jessica is beatrice it makes more sense.

Natsuhi doesnt even know her daughter and Krauss is too busy building space colonies

>> No.4213115

>>4213102
THAT MAN IS A VISONARY, SIR!
WERE IT NOT FOR HIS EFFORTS, THE FEDERATION WOULD HAVE NEVER EXISTED!

>> No.4213119

>>4213102
Fusiontrice theory makes the most sense, actually.

>> No.4213126

>>4213119
But then who is in love with Battler? That makes all the difference.

>> No.4213134

>>4213119
What is fusiontrice? A theory that all of the culprits are beatrice somehow?

>> No.4213135

>>4213126
Jessica was. But she isn't anymore.

>> No.4213151

>>4213134
No. A theory that Jessica screwed with the head of the girl who is now Shannon and created the Beatrice personality in her.

>> No.4213162

>>4213151
wat

Explain this shit

>> No.4213169

>>4213135
Well fuck this theory then, if someone isn't yandere for Battler, I just can't get behind it.

>> No.4213191

>>4213134
Well, it's a bit crazy, but here it is.
From the long ass red text, we conclude that Beatrice was created so the creator could achieve love and happiness, and also because the creator could not love Battler.

Now, Shannon, and Kanon both state, many times, that they are not allowed to love.
Which is odd. Beatrice was created to have two entities be able to love, not just one. In fact, if Shannon created Beatrice, she should be fine with sexing up George. And yet, surely, Shannon = Kanon = Beatrice, right?
The mystery makes sense that way.

And it all falls down like so.
Jessica is the creator. Shannon is the one who recieved the Beatrice persona.
Thus, the Shannon and Kanon personas can be inferior and limited to the Beatrice persona, while still allowing for the creator to do what she pleases.

>> No.4213209

>>4213191
How would she give someone a persona, that's not exactly something you can force onto a person.

>> No.4213225

>>4213191
From the long ass red text, we conclude that Beatrice was created so the creator could achieve love and happiness, and also because the creator could not love Battler.

So.... battler and jessica are blood related. And because of that she cant love him!
Jessitrice is born

WINCEST END FUCK YEAH

>> No.4213229

>>4213209
Well, it's not exactly something you get from having a twelve year old not like you either.
When there's a fucked up will, there's a fucked up way.

>> No.4213248

>>4213225
Ryukishi must not bitch out from this, there better be full on Jessica craves Battler's cock, and Battler accepts it.

He can give hot dickings to her while she's in the goddamn mental institution, I don't care.

>> No.4213249

>>4213209
Well, apparently it is, that's how the Shkanontrice people justify Kanon, remember?

>> No.4213251

>>4212594
MORE GODDAMN IT

Japan + Star Trek = Gold.

Also if this takes place in TNG, then Bernkastel is Spock, because sure why not.

>> No.4213255

>>4213229
So we're doomed with a hopelessly convoluted end both ways, can't rage hard enough.

>> No.4213268

>>4213255
Well, my hopelessly convoluted way makes more sense.
In a hopelessly convoluted fashion, naturally!

>> No.4213273

>>4213249
I always lumped Shkannontrice as the culprit.

She developed Kanon as a means to control Jessica, rather than Jessica for some batshit reason plays a game of pretend with Shannon because OGOD SHES SO HOPELEZZLY LONELY ;_;

If someone is the culprit, they better be devious as hell.

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>>4213249
Ever consider, for, I don't know, a moment, that Shkanontrice could just be plain old wrong?
I mean, there's a much simpler way of answering that.
Two entities, both have to be able to love?
Seems like standard Jessitrice fair covers that nice enough.

>> No.4213291

>>4213225
But Jessica is not Beatrice. She does not love Battler. She hasn't loved Battler for years. Her feelings for Battler no longer exist in her.

>> No.4213297

>>4213273
Well, Moon-chan is devious, she lies like a motherfucker. Shkanontrice, well, it kills a ton of people, but doesn't have the deception or charisma that a good mastermind needs.

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>>4213291
I'd argue with that.

>> No.4213329

>>4213248
In b4 jessica is actually adopted and from the fukuin house, making her Shannon's sister.

Natsuhi's son story was actually a hint for that.

Shannon came from the fukuin house very young because he knew she was related to Jessica (the heir) and then gave her the golden wing.

Shannon and Jessica develop a sister complex shion/mion style and then Battler declares himself to Shannon. Jessica becames jealous because in truth she loves Battler but know that they cant be together so she creates Beatrice inside of her.

Later Shannon accidentaly kills Kinzo and Jessica knowing that blackmails her in a evil plot that involves her crossdressing as Kanon.

You heard it here first.

>> No.4213335

>>4213297
Yeah. Shkanontrice being the culprit falls flat. A tool of ungodly murder, sure, but as Shannon and Kanon, she is just far too bland.
It's like if Jeff from Chuck ended up being the BBEG, yeah, it's unexpected, but it feels really corny.

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4213337

Remember when Jessica talks in ep 1 about how she always used to wrestle with Battler?

Calling it now: final struggle of Umineko, Battler vs Jessica, MANLY FIGHT

>> No.4213347

>>4213337
BRASS KNUCKLES VERSUS HATSTAND

Or she might just shoot him with a gun.

>> No.4213361

>>4213329
I'm fine with not blood related wincest.

Piece Battler is the only one I feel sorry for in this clusterfuck of a story, with the exception of a few other adults. He deserves some ass, and Jessica and Shannon are the only women close to his age. From there, it's just preference, I find Jessica slightly more endearing than Shannon.

>> No.4213366

>>4213337
USHIROMIYA

BATTTTTTOOOOOOORRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.4213369

>>4213347
Hey, it worked against George, don't knock it!

>> No.4213383

>>4213347
DEEN actually sent me the final episode of Umineko on dvd, the final fight is pretty much that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ik2q9s6I4

>> No.4213401

>>4213383
Is that....some kinda stake firing shotgun?

>> No.4213421

>>4213401
STAKE FIRING WEAPON X

>> No.4213422

>>4213366
Well, shit. Battler is XBOX HUEG, though, so he shoudl be ok.

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>>4213383
The kicker was the inhaler bit.
But yeah, in terms of final fights, I could see Jessica and Battler duking it out.
Hell, add the fiction theory into it for more drama.

BOMB GOING OFF, FAMILY IS DEAD, AND YET, BATTLER CONTINUES TO FIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!

>> No.4213493

>>4213464
....Sounds oddly like the finale of MGS4....

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>>4213464

>>I CONTINUE TO FIGHT

>> No.4213562

>>4213383
Goddamn it, now I have to watch all of that guy's videos now.

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