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>dem necks

>the Touhou games (6-12)
Ah yes, I forgot that the PC-98 games aren't Touhou.

I enjoy this artist.
I've also been told (here) that SA is the hardest. Truth, or vocal crybaby?

Normal Mode Difficulty
SA > UFO > MoF > EoSD > PCB > IN

Just my opinion though, and I have way more practice in the 3 older ones than the 3 newer ones

>>4180915
I actually had a harder time 1CCing PCB (without using Sakuya) on normal than I did 1CCing MoF (without using MarisaB) on normal. Though, maybe the problem was that I was inexperienced during PCB, so when I improved and was playing MoF it just felt easier.

>>4180860

MoF is by far the easiest. Almost every single spell card up through the start of Stage 6 is very easily beatable even by a relative novice. I can 1CC it reliably almost every time.

Imperishable Night is next. I can't 1CC it reliably, but I've done it a few times. The main reason it's harder than MoF is because of Stage 4, which IMO is harder than Stage 5 and possibly even Stage 6.

PCB is next. Stage 4 has the usual massive jump in difficulty, but unlike IN, Stage 5 is absurdly hard too. And then there's Stage 6, which you won't have enough lives to beat unless you did really well on 4/5.

EoSD, SA, and UFO are all above that in difficulty, though having not 1CC'd them, I can't really speak for them too much.

>>4181036
What was IN stage 4 again? ... oh right, fucking Reimu.

PCB stage 6 is easier than 5 though.

>>4180860
UFO > SA > EoSD > MoF > PCB > IN

IN is babies and gimmics. PCB is CHERRY BORDER.
MoF is I can't bring myself to play it, but it wasn't that difficult from what I saw. EoSD is SURE IS KNIVES AROUND HERE also I suck with no hitbox. SA is too hard for me but goddamn at least I can get pass stage two without dying. UFO is WHY AM I STARTING TO DIE FROM STAGE 2 BOSS ONWARDS? also fucking UFOs get me killed the most.

ITT people try to have opinions when they haven't played any of the games on anything other than Easy and Normal.

UFO>SA>EoSD>IN>MoF>PCB

MoF and IN are pretty low on practice, but that would only solve micromemorization issues. There's very little enthusiasm when playing them and performance suffers.

I thought PCB hard was fairly difficult....

MOF and IN on hard are other games normal

OP here, I guess I should have been specific about difficulty. I play on Normal.
That said, I was hoping there was more of a consensus on the game to game difficulty, and less mocking each other and personal stories.

>>4181092
>What was IN stage 4 again? ... oh right, fucking Reimu.

Rather her than Marissa

Goddamnit Master Spark, I hate you and your oddly shapen spinning projectiles.

>>4181186
>/jp/
>consensus

>>4181197
No way is Marissa harder than Reimu

Which character do you think is easiest for each game?
Usually I just pick Marisa with lasers.

>>4181197
>>4181286

Some people dread playing Malice and Scarlet Devil team simply because you have to deal with Reimu's bullshit.

shoot the bullet is the only good touhou
yeah i said it

>>4181492
EoSD: The shot types are actually balanced.
PCB: Sakuya A spamming bombs or Reimu A with her easy deathbomb window.
IN: Yukari, the overpowered bitch.
MoF: Marisa Bugged
SA: Yukari, the overpowered bitch.
UFO: The slut.

>>4181492
I think homing Reimu is the easiest, since you just have to dodge. Marisa is usually strong but you have to be good enough to use her speed or else you'll just run into shit more.

From hardest to easiest:

UFO > SA > MoF > PCB > EoSD > IN

>>4181492
Usually any shot type with range. Starting from the sixth game it goes: Reimu B, Reimu B, Ghost Team, Marisa C, Reimu A, Sanae B.

Marisa with lasers is overpowered for LLS. Having a larger spread for MS doesn't matter that much so Mima is the top pick.

Hey guys, what's wrong with Too Hoo 9?

>>4181570
What about in PoFV?

...wait

>Touhou games (6-12).
>the 6 games in difficulty?

Wait. WAIT.

WAIT WAIT WAIT.

6
7
8
9
10
11
12

>7 games.

ITT no one remembers PoFV or realizes OPs error.

>>4181583
>just have to dodge

And make the battles longer even if you stay underneath the boss 95% of the time.

I'm surprised a few of you noticed.

>>4181613
nobody plays PoFV

>>4181660
Only people with friends play PoFV.
I would know.

>>4181613
Okay, fine. Medicine and Aya are widely considered the easiest for PoFV. Personally I like to stick with Sikieiki for the decent scope and charge speed. One thing I'm unsure about is the placement of the hitbox on her body. So far I don't think it's thrown me off, but when I pay attention to where it is I tend to worry it'll be the cause of some death in the future.

Unlike the other games I can rank overall based on the friendliness of shot types and levels of difficulty, PoFV jumps all over the fucking place.

>>4181716
Broken tier:
Reimu

High tier:
Shikieiki
Aya
Medicine

Mid tier:
Yuka
Sakuya
Komachi

Low tier:
Mystia
Lyrica
Youmu
Marisa
Cirno
Reisen

Bottom tier:
Reisen
Lunasa

Roll tier:
Merlin

Considering the Extra Mode that forces you to use characters that aren't Medicine or Aya, PoFV is the easiest Windows game.

>>4180860
Oh hey, a new wallpaper. Thanks OP

Tell me about using Yukari in SA
Or IN, if you would.

>>4181767
SA: Needle Reimu, but good and with teleportation abilities
IN: Ran homes in on enemies and shotguns them

>>4181741
Oh hey, a completely wrong and bullshit tier list. Wow. What a surprise.

>>4181786
Fix it, faggot.

>>4181767
Can't go wrong with SA Yukari unless you're tired of straightforward characters. Easily the strongest long range damage.

IN...what can I say. Longer window of opportunity to bomb, small hitbox, slow focus speed. If you give the other teams a spin you'll notice how shitty the homing damage actually is, but out of all the teams it probably has the least amount of negatives to go with it.

>>4181798
Was the list created with regards to match /story play or netplay?

>>4181817
2-player, both Match and Netplay
Then again, I made this list in a good 3 minutes

Hm. I guess I'll give her a spin sometimes, then.
Thanks for the answers, guys.

>>4181802
Well homing damage is expected to be low. Should have said damage output, period.

>>4181798
Characters you'll see 95% of the people using in a serious tournament Tier
Reimu, Youmu

Who Cares Tier:
Everybody else

At the top level of play, all that matters is who can keep their bullets on the screen for the longest period of time because both players are going to be doing nothing but firing off spellcards and clearing the area around them constantly. Youmu and Reimu win that hands down.

>>4181802

weird, though the most people play Border Team, i really enjoy playing SDM Team a lot more. the damage output is consistently strong, but not gimmicky, unlike Malice's.

why don't people use SDM Team? i like SDM more than Malice and Ghost

>>4181862
The other 5% are creating a bit of a stir in recent years.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=967pwym1WAI

>>4181878
because remilia's options are hard to use.

Hard mode, survival, kinda not that good but beaten a few of them tier:
UFO > PCB = SA > IN > MoF
I haven't tried EoSD but I imagine it's among the top 2.

IN might actually be harder depending on how precise your movement is. It has completely stupid bullet density and the superlong bomb timer only works during spellcards.

>>4181878
True, and the short time I tried them I loved how Kaguya's spells ended before becoming very annoying. The focused speed may have been a turn-off but not so much now. It's mainly that I love unfocused time orb collection and Sakuya's firepower doesn't cut it.

>>4181542
>Some people dread playing Malice and Scarlet Devil team simply because you have to deal with Reimu's bullshit.

Reimu is completely predictable.
Marisa is a nightmare.

Whenever I go back to IN I always go Malice.

>>4182056
>full-screen amulet spam
>throws bouncing balls in for good measure
>flash steps
>predictable

>>4181878
>why don't people use SDM Team? i like SDM more than Malice and Ghost

Remilia is great, but Sakuya just doesn't have the firepower she did in PCB.

For UFO, which slut? The slut with a frog, or slut with a snake?

>>4182070
>full-screen amulet spam
Focused movement slightly to the side when an amulet will hit you
>throws bouncing balls in for good measure
They don't hit you when you're focuses IIRC
>flash steps
Ok, this one is a bitch.

Hard mode 1ccs default lives
UFO > EoSD > PCB = IN = SA > MoF

Unlocking Lunatic Practice through continue spam:
UFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SA = MoF > PCB = EoSD = IN

>>4182101
Frog. Decent forward shot, splash damage all around, superior bomb.

>>4181907
Alright, did a run with SDM Team and Kaguya's second last spell reminded me of the unwieldy focus speed. Normal version probably has it worst, though. Spell capture times were superb.