/jp/ - Otaku Culture

what happened

loli/beast/guro/incest all banned, but the rules pretty much go "whatever else we want, arbitrarily"

>>41779684
dumb nigger it says for transactions
https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=8791
its credit card bullshit again

>>41779628
Not OP but they pretty much killed the site by banning a massive amount of content from all their paid services. No loli, no /ss/, no rape, no incest. Combine this with the uma ban and AI being plastered all over the site and they're going to scare off a massive amount of artists.

Applies to fanbox, booth and request. This essensially puts them on the same level as patreon with their rules which is a much more widely used site by western subscribers and for commissions it makes them massively inferior to skeb. If I had to take a guess this is a knee jerk reaction to R18 dying.

Awesome, more artists will migrate to the superior alternative, Twitter.

>>41779729
Fuck that

Why is it that every time I saw this on multiple boards, the OP said the same shit about them banning loli and whatnot while completely disregarding the fact that the news post is in plain English, explicitly mentions it only affecting fanbox and such, and that it's entirely because of credit card companies
On top of that, the part of the terms of use mentioned only brings up real life illegal topics, so it probably only has to do with the CP spam from last week

>>41779834
>Why is it that every time I saw this on multiple boards, the OP said the same shit about them banning loli and whatnot while completely disregarding the fact that the news post is in plain English
4chan operates based out fake outrages and sensational faggots like OP, /jp/ is not excluded from this

>>41779834
Why would someone upload pictures of cheese pizza on fanbox? Personally, I'm more in favour of margherita.

>>41779834
Where am I gonna get my CP now :(

>>41779987
panda

>>41779834
I thought CP was illegal. How are they posting CP on Pixiv if it's illegal?

>>41779834
>can't upload it on the paid platform
>but can still upload it on the free side without issue
they'll totally start releasing their loli art for free instead of deleting all their accounts and fucking off forever, r-right?

I wish there was a site for just actual drawings and not whatever the fuck you feel like screenshotting or generating.

What are the alternatives to Pixiv?

>>41780064
SubscribeStar, which seems to be a Russian based platform

Fantia, it's OK but has a terrible UI, and you only get to view content month by month, the previous month's content requires individual payments

ci-en; I don't know what it is, but I saw JP Twitter talking about it

>>41780019
what the hell does that mean

>>41780064
Twitter, but I'd recommend using Nitter because it sorts their art better

>>41780086
It means that I don't consider AI generated trash or koikatsu screenshots as works of art, Pixiv being at least 50/50 on the ratio between drawings and the aforementioned garbage.

>>41780080
>and you only get to view content month by month
That's not entirely true. It's just the default option and when blissful ignorance meets greed, that's what we get.

>>41779714
The only ones who give a shit about AI are western artists, and I sure as fuck don't care if they burn in a pyre.

>>41780064
I like Nijie, it even has that beautiful 2000's aesthetic with ads everywhere.

>>41779834
the rules specify illegal content, which under japanese law wouldn't apply to drawn art

wait and see what happens

>>41779834
>so it probably only has to do with the CP spam from last week
it really isn't related to that
and everything on the pixiv new terms is directly 2D art
just take a peek at twitter and loli artists accounts, everyone already accepted they won't be able to sell doujin or arts on pixiv anymore
you can check even the own announce post and see the reactions
https://twitter.com/pixiv/status/1592431082208886787

>>41780201
>everything on the pixiv new terms is directly 2D art
So I guess people won't be able to sell art that includes panties, tabacco, animals, or even any kind of weapons anymore. Pixiv is DONE

>>41780227
but hey this means we can buy panties, tobacco, AND animals now. everything has an upside!

>>41780201
https://twitter.com/maturepicbot/status/1592533768698748930

jp artists seem as confused as we are, the language is extremely vague

2chan thread

https://archive.is/kafrj

>>41780254
It doesn't help that they just copypasted the Visa terms on the official notice either.

>>41780275
What did he mean by this? The ignorance succumbed to the Americans? Shouldn't it be the other way around?

>>41780324
Incompetence, not ignorance.
He's saying Pixiv staff is incompetent, and has succumbed to Americans.

>>41780275
This guy has the right idea. What was Pixiv even thinking?

>>41780353
What does this have to do with Americans? Is blaming everything on Americans the new fad?

>>41780371
is he talking about the 3DCG stuff?

>>41779834
>Artists are totally going to release all their art for free bro just you watch!
Yeah are you delusional? You think any of them do this shit for free? If they can't monetize they're not drawing, simple as.

>>41780380
no

chinese scam artists were spamming the site with AI images as advertising then using booth/fanbox to launder actual CP.

>>41780375
They're pandering to Mastercard, which is an 'American' company.

>>41779968
Surprisingly a lot of western 3d "artists" did that uncanny valley shit.

>>41780375
japanese otaku blame americans a lot, but in this case mastercard and visa are american companies.

>>41780080
>ci-en
That's the blog subdomain of dlsite for creators, no?

>>41779608
American payment processors are way too puritanical. Japan and co need to make their own payment processor. If Akamatsu Ken really wants to protect creators from censorship, he should get on doing this.

>>41780467
JCB already exists, anon
it existing doesnt really change anything. companies want as much money as possible, they aren't going to anger two of the biggest credit card companies in the world for the sake of one that only operates in japan.

The 2chan Discord i'm in is freaking out about it too, they're trying to see what cards are and aren't accepted by things like SKEB due to shit like paypal and talking about western sites
>furry…ケモホモ…2B…ベジータ…ピッコロ…

>>41780508
JCB can't be used to buy NSFW materials according to them, and even then its mostly a card used by older people

Fuck banks. Fuck Visa and Mastercard.
I'm so tired of Americans, man. I hope dojin artists figure out a solution to this whole thing. It's always the little guys that get fucked over.

>>41780563
there are american artists who draw stuff like this and manage to get paid for it, JP artists will find a way to profit from it. even in the worst case scenario there'll just be some shuffling around of sites. most of these artists have big followings on twitter so they can easily direct people to their new site.

>>41780563
>I'm so tired of Americans, man
E-Even me?

>>41780617
EVEN YOU

>>41779714
>>41779834
>no guro
Well shit, there goes my favorite artist. Hopefully he moves to a platform still accessible to EN users

back to the age of false advertising....

>>41780632
>kubikiri
Are you the one who spam uploaded some of his stuff to panda this past week?

>>41780662
The translator guy? No, but I appreciate him.

>>41780563
If only crypto didn't turn into a dumpster fire.

>>41780799
Meh, it's only bad for investors at the moment. If you treat it as a currency and immediately cash out, there is nothing wrong with accepting crypto. Can even just ask for stables (inb4 UST) to give you a bit more time before cashing out.

>>41780846
>Meh, it's only bad for investors at the moment
that's the problem

>>41780857
If the artist wants to reinvest it, sure. But if the artist just wants to get paid, the only problem is holding the crypto too long (which varies per coin). Just cash out when you get it. Of course, some artists are extremely lazy, so this might still be too big of a hurdle for them to even bother.

>>41780375
because this isn't the first time american payment processors imposed their restrictions on japanese online transactions.

>>41780882
The problem is nothing facilitates it.
You can't automate it unless you build your own personal platform. Artists are neither technical enough, nor particularly rich to purchase the work.
There's no incentive for existing platforms to integrate crypto. Even if they did, the majority of people haven't adapted to it and will prefer easier alternatives.

>>41780933
Mastercard, Visa, American Express, etc do not represent Americans.

>>41781178
>Mastercard, Visa, American Express, etc do not represent Americans
Then who do they represent?

>>41781188
Themselves.

Fucking mutt golems

Are doujin safe? Where do artists post their digital doujinshi anyways? I saw some posting on pixiv but will they just move to melonbooks or something?

>>41781351
Can you read the thread?

>>41779705
You can just go and ruing OP's bait what the fuck

>>41781385
It's still bad news, anon.

>>41781385
Art is not made for free. If they can't monetize it via pixiv services they have no reason to host it on pixiv services at all.

>>41781389
You're right, they're going to start wiping the entire Touken Ranbu tag because katanas are illegal.
Think before you post, you dumb faggot.

>>41781403
Artists have been using Pixiv since before Fanbox was even a thing, it just means people won't be using Fanbox and will be moving to something like Fantia or Subscribestar or what have you. That doesn't solve the core problem of Mastercard and Visa, nor can I say "well just don't use those payment providers" because that's just ignorance, but the idea that Japanese artists will stop doing art because they're not getting paid for it is ridiculous.

>>41779714
>If I had to take a guess this is a knee jerk reaction to R18 dying.
what the fuck?

>>41781435
You're not entitled to free artwork

>>41781435
Artists all moved to twitter for casually hosting their art. Fanbox and other services were the only reason anyone still used the site.

>>41781440
When did I say that in any capacity?
>>41781447
This is only true to a degree, Pixiv is still massively used just like Twitter is. And let's be frank here too; if an artist wanted to consolidate their work to just one platform, they've already been doing so long before this.

Oh baby, more twitter only artists!!

Anyone can confirm if Fantia still accepts International Credit Cards?

Last time I tried, it worked fine

I remember some users uploading CP images and Candydoll videos with some photoshop filters applied to them then uploading them passing them as AI-generated art tag and selling them through FANBOX.

>>41781457
Elon Musk is planning on adding a paid content feature so it might work out for

Or not, who the fuck knows what Elon Musk might do

>>41781456
>Pixiv is still massively used
Not anymore they won't be.

>>41781479
I don't think you realize just how insane Pixiv can be for optics. Every day there's an artist whose career gets kickstarted by being randomly featured. Even if these shitty new rules start affecting tags people will still be using it to some degree, likely another place to put their artwork, just for the chance of that alone; Twitter can literally never compare.

>>41781378
I just did. So we're actually fucked huh. If CC companies double down then the future is not looking bright for us.

>>41781497
You're stuck in the past, anon. This isn't ten years ago.

>>41781511
You cannot in good faith tell me Twitter, a website with absolutely no tagging that's so diluted it might as well just be water, is better for growth than a website specifically for sharing images. The potential reach is much bigger and due to retweeting being a factor means shit CAN grow exponentially which is absolutely it's biggest boon, but even ignoring the random buyout shit by definition Pixiv is an incredibly viable option.
You don't have to choose to post on just one of the other either.

>>41781538
It is not about what site is better nad never has been. It's about what artists use, and artists prefer sprinkling their art throughout their life blog on twitter so they can pretend people actually know or care about them as a human being.

>>41781547
>pretend people actually know or care about them as a human being.
That's pathetic

>>41781547
That doesn't deny a single thing I've said, though. If anything it only further proves your perception is narrow as all hell, for every artist posting pictures of whatever dumb food or cat they saw recently there's people who post literally nothing but their own artwork and maybe retweets some other people.

>>41779834
Because it's likely the same (or a very small number) person spamming it on every vaguely related board for maximum (You)s
You underestimate how mentally damaged some faggots on this website are

>>41781585
Everyone knows they're 'just' banning it from their payment services, you fucking retard. We just also know that this means nobody is going to draw it anymore who relies on those services, you moron. Nobody makes art for free.

>>41780986
Coinbase has their Pay feature where retailers can add support for crypto payments as easy as integrating PayPal into it. People just need to start using them.

>>41781613
>Nobody makes art for free.
I see what anon means now, this is like the fourth time this exact same post has been made with the same autistic aggression behind it.

Oh Boy I can't wait for a mass purge of "free site" content because artists don't want to work on accounts that make no money and Pixiv's putting bots to the task of taking down every account with the no no items

>>41781464
Those AI parasites are fucking scum. They should have banned them from fanbox.

genuinely cannot believe theres anons ITT who believe nips only care about art if they make gangbusters from it, they literally didn't even take commissions until like '16 or '17 and would actively take it as an insult if you tried to pay them for their work
>>41781648
that shits allowed on fanbox? i thought it wasn't due to the nature of potential copyright infringement

>>41779608
Already are backups so nothing really change aside from pivix dying

Don't blame website owners you morons. The banks don't want their name associated with underage porn because activist have threatened to go after them; hence, the reason so many porn websites are purging amateur porn.

This has impacted the terms of service of payment processor services like paypal/stripe which in turn impacts crowd funding websites like patreon/kickstarter.

Lastly, anyone who has worked in the e-commerce/porn industry (such as myself), will tell you that porn is much more likely to get refunded/charged-back due to either kids getting busted with their mom's credit card or husbands getting busted by their wives and blaming it on hackers. Companies lose money from all the returns/fees.

>>41781707
2D is not illegal shill.

I warned you this sort of shit would happen over a decade ago when visa and friends went after the dogfucker sites at the behest of the Bush administration.
It was never going to stop there. It was always going to creep and escalate. It's the nature of these risk adverse companies to push closer and closer to puritanism to utterly eliminate both what they independently perceive as risky and what they're "warned" of by the feds as fluid interpretations of the law are used to threaten the payment processors to comply.
>>41779834
Your distinction doesn't not matter but in the end the ban will be expanded to affect 2d art. It's inevitable.

>>41781727
>but in the end the ban will be expanded to affect 2d art. It's inevitable.
I swear I've seen this exact same post for the past dozen years for every website to ever exist, and I don't think I've ever actually seen it happen.

Strange, isn't it?

>>41781727
Indeed, in the near future Pixiv will be a site where only 3DCG AI-generated art of legal characters will be permitted.

>>41779834
Cuz it's easier to bait and fearmonger, but the explanation and reality of getting cucked for what you want to draw still sucks.

Damn, blackrock, really wants to fuck with the whole world.

>>41780015
too bad gook artists are greedy as fuck

>>41781803
They have a humiliation fetish and it's the only thing that gives them a horn anymore

>>41779834
>Nothingburger
Anon a a lot of fucking artist that i follow are searching for a new alternatives, and the funny thing its not just artists that draw loli because artist that draw ケモノ are leaving because count as bestiality too.

What's up with pixiv being flooded with ((((you know what)))) last couple weeks either way? Seems like some sort of an inside job.
Was checking out my favorite artist that does mildly lewd loli art and ((((it)))) was in suggestions/related artworks.

>>41781873
I have no idea what you're talking about. Shitted? I saw someone spamming a tag I was checking the other day with it, but it seemed to be literally the only thing that person did.

>>41781891
child porn
>>41781873
its on pawoo too
pedos caught onto the lax rules on both sites, theres a shit ton of them trading session ids

>どうやら規約改定は三次元のことを指してるもののようなので12月以降もイラストのショタなどは問題なさそうな流れみたいなので今後もFANBOXのほうでも新規ショタ系イラストを投稿できるかと思います
wait is he correct?

>>41781870
The thing is that nothing happened yet, nothing will start happening until a month from now, and we'll only learn what exactly happens in a week or two, so any reaction from artists at this point is nothing more than panic due not understanding the entire story.
On the upside, there's no way the Pixiv staff isn't seeing the (over)reaction to their announcement, so my positive side is expecting them to handle the ToS update very carefully.

>>41781909
Oh, I can't say I've seen any either though I will admit I have seen an increase in people tracing real life photos and putting them on there, though it mostly seemed to be clearly adult asian women thankfully. Though it wouldn't surprise me if that was just a cover for actual Clownpieces.

>>41781909
I find it hard to believe that this is not some agency false flagging. Pixiv can't be this incompetent to allow it

>>41781922
This is what we call a hope cope.

>>41781916
could be, I just read that this was caused by pedos who were hiding qr codes in their art leading to cp sites

>>41781439
R18.com will be no more in January. Ask in /jp/'s JAV thread for more info.

>>41781996
wouldn't surprise me, every now and then imageboards get spammed with cp that have qr codes on them that only one can assumes lead to whatever it is they're advertising
unfortunate that people doing heinous things to children lead to everyone else getting punished for it

>>41782135
>Ask in /jp/'s JAV thread for more info.
Anon... this is /jp/...

>>41782204
if this ban is only for 3d art then it kind of adds up. Pedos are manly the ones who do 3d art and they tend to use pixv a lot

>>41782262
Anon this isn't just for underage stuff though, ケモノ or good old tentacle rape have nothing to do with that.

>>41779608
>gets rid of all the absolute garbage
you know what this is a good thing. i've never liked loli, and guro is fucked up on it's own.

Reminder that the anti lolicon brigade are IRL pedos or old hags

So does this actual do anything to the casual degenerate coomsumer or just the whales that use it as a platform to commission their degeneracy?

>>41782356
I know, all of those things fall under the same category that piss off payment processers.

>>41782377
Don't cry when your favorite tag and any sort of erotic content gets banned then, faggot.

>>41782432
my favorite tag isn't fucked up, idiot

>>41780375
>new fad
Americans cause a lot of problems overseas if you’ve been living recluse these past 50 years. While some are respectful to whatever culture there are more who are just trashy and unconscientious. For instance, some posts here have mentioned a surge of AI art from western(aka American) posters in pixiv and more unconscientious westerners creating profiles and upload fucking SCREENSHOTS and treating pixiv like Facebook.

As other people have answered your question. The American credit card company is restricting freedom of speech in Japan.

>>41782435
Tell that to credit card companies, though it's not like loli and guro are fucked up. Not to mention, no one is forcing you to look anything you don't want to, faggot.

Anyone has any artist recommendations for loli and anything else that might be purged because of this change? I'm planning to use gallery-dl to grab the stuff just to be safe.

>>41780124
This is a ridiculous lie. Get out of /jp/.

>>41782377
It's a slippery slope. Even if you don't like the things it's banning, the content you enjoy will be effected.

>>41782436
>The American credit card company is restricting freedom of speech in Japan.
the freedom of speech to post a loli getting fucked by a horsecock is really changing the world.

>>41781712
His point is that it doesn't matter. What matters, in the payment processers' eyes, is the court of public opinion

>>41782509
You've both got it backwards. It's not public opinion that sets corporate policy, it's corporate-government policy that sets public opinion.

>>41782377
Tell me you’re an American without telling me you’re American.
Fuck off and stay on deviantart and tumblr. No need to encroach on another counties community to fellate your wooden crate morals.

>>41782526
oh no i don't like guro, how dare I try and say no to that.

>>41782526
No you have to let me imprison you for thought crime because I'm a whiny faggot

>>41782534
Are you an American?

>>41782546
why should it matter if i'm american or not?

>>41780652
what vn is this?

>>41782549
Are you an American? This is a yes or no question. I'll debrief you after you tell me the answer.

>>41782554
again why does this matter?

>>41782377
>>41782435
This is only the beginning, don't delude yourself into thinking you're safe

>>41779714
what uma ban?

>>41782558
You're acting stupid, just like an American.

>>41782619
We're not all censorship worshipping karens like that retard

>>41781178
Neither do hikkikomori on a Japanese basket-weaving forum. Don't take it personally.

>>41780549
Get them on IRC, dammit.

>>41782641
They enjoy streaming and imagedumps too much for that to work. I love these crazy bastards. So many temporary channels where they spam loli for the evening, congratulate eachother, then delete the channel to prevent reports.

>>41781937
happens to big social media all the time
sadly not enough staff to stop them
>>41782616
no horse porn or the yakuza comes after you for drawing porn of their horses

>>41782377
You're literally posting a shittuber that had a mental breakdown on stream because people kept drawing porn of her and it was, specifically, against her religion. Why do you think your opinion matters?

>>41782746
which tuber is she so i can jack off to the porn in hopes her religion is real and she gets sent to hell because of me

>>41782755
nta but that's Moona isn't it? She's SEA so she's probably a Muslim.

>>41782746
>had a mental breakdown on stream
she did? cause she literally read her doujinshi on stream and seemed unfazed by it

>>41781870
JP artists are capable of being morons too

So what's next for the creators of that kind of content? I'm not interested in guro, loli (besides of the oppai variety) or that other stuff, but it's kind of shitty they're getting assfucked like this. Hopefully there's some way they can keep going for some bux

>>41782774
If your argument relies on everyone except you being stupid you might be the stupid one, anon.

>>41782764
It was at the very start of her career where she was freaking out over it being not halal or whatever, and I feel genuine happiness knowing that she had to come to accept it because literally everyone else she did was openly accepting of porn.

>>41780080
>> Russian-based platform
If that's the case, why the fuck doesn't it accept my Mir card?
Boosty.to is the Russian Patreon.

>>41782746
>You're literally posting a shittuber
Wait isn't that byakuren? Or did someone rip the hair color.

>>41782489
Western shit artists do nothing but pollute pixiv. And I have seen them time and time again harrassing japanese artists, so they can fuck off and die.

>>41782816
Shittubers are known for their unoriginality, especially Hololive.

>>41782776
Different website or stop drawing it exclusively for money and draw other things for money.

>>41781707
>porn is much more likely to get refunded/charged-back
>Companies lose money from all the returns/fees
I heard this argument before and I refuse to believe that money lost to chargebacks/handling of chargebacks outweighs money made from selling porn.

>all these people saying it isn't serious
>when artists who create content show through their actions it is
I'm going to listen to the people who actually draw and used to upload on pixiv rather than some random on /jp/ who claims to know it all

Is it time for artists to join druggies and best koreans in using monero?

>>41782939
Skeb started their own token (announced a few months ago and launched a few weeks ago) specifically to get around credit card processors. I don't own any and have no opinion on whether it's a good idea or not, just saying.

>>41782917
you realize there's people here who also draw right
and the average japanese twitter artist is a spastic that'll use any excuse to remove content anyway

>>41780064
just browse danbooru

>>41782627
Yes you are dumb mutt

>>41783088
>you realize there's people here who also draw right
they haven't dropped their pixiv ID along with authentication in exchange for anonymity
Therefore nobody has proved they're an artist
HOWEVER I will agree that artists will cling to anything to justify removing past content

>>41783091
Where do you think danbooru gets half its images from

>>41781188
Kikes
>>41781191
Same answer, really.

Wouldn't be an issue if they were vetted and verified only posts

>>41781504
Give it a decade, at the most (and that's being extremely generous). When America falls, this puritanical bullshit should die with it. Alternatively, the demand is there for an unpozzed alternative, so if the free market is allowed to do its thing then an alternative will arise. But until we have an unkiked payment processor option, then it won;t; ba allowed to.

>>41783132
my subconcious brings them into reality

>>41783132
What about kemono party?

>>41783179
where do you think kemono gets half its image from

>>41782939
God, I wish.

In the end until we see how the new rules are enforced this is a big nothing burger but I understand why people are going full conductor we have a problem
Overall this is not an expansion of freedoms but further limitations and that's never a good thing

>>41783196
People reposting images from fanbox, fantia, skeb, etc.

The point is even if the content is locked behind a paywall we'll have access to any of the content the artists choose to delete

>>41783092
Ok nigel

>>41783243
How do you think Kemono works?

>>41783312
I read it from the front page

> Kemono is a public archiver for:

Patreon
Pixiv Fanbox
Gumroad
SubscribeStar
DLsite
Discord
Fantia
Boosty
Afdian

>Contributors here upload content and share it here for easy searching and organization. To get started viewing content, either search for creators on the artists page, or search for content on the posts page. If you want to contribute content, head over to the import page.

>>41783317
So then you realize we won't have access to any content the artists choose to delete, just content that people contribute directly to the site.

I wish Japs would create alternatives for American services. Every time something like this happens it's Americans behind it.

>>41783405
So, why not just use credit card companies located in Japan? Or a Paypal service that was homegrown there? Why cry about American payment services when they have options already?

>>41783405
can you read the thread, or do you just lack enough braincells to have a good long critical think about this? It has nothing to do with alternatives, it has to do with the fact that the market share in credit card services is literally the SINGLE most important thing for 100% of websites that have a payment option of any kind. Japan has their own credit cards they could use, but even if Pixiv had no other options but Japanese payment options (a lesson every single Japanese website learned was retarded back when NND did it) all that means is they're innately making less money.

>>41783434
card companies located [outside of america]
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>41783443
So what you are saying is that Japan doesn't have a good alternative for American card companies. That doesn't really contradict my post so not sure what you are so upset about.

>>41783391
Yes, but there is nothing stopping someone from uploading to kemono

>credit card companies located [outside of america]
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>41783452
Not for a global market, that's exactly what they are saying. And all of that stems back to shit going on in America. You know, I want to point to that and ignorant people want to laugh at it, but ask them to point to a single payment processor that means goddam thing on the global scale outside of this fucked up country, and they just stand, bewildered, with their thumb up their collective arse. And thumb it though they might, I promise you, they won't come up with a better answer. Keep trying though, I'm sure you'll find gold if you dig down deep enough.

>>41783452
>So what you are saying is that Japan doesn't have a good alternative for American card companies.
Are you retarded, or can you just not read english?

>>41783464
>Kemono
Can you fucking read?

>>41783434
>credit card companies located [outside of america]
Lol. Lmao, even.

>>41783452
Not for a global market, that's exactly what they are saying. And all of that stems back to shit going on in America. You know, I want to point to that and ignorant people want to laugh at it, but ask them to point to a single payment processor that means goddam thing on the global scale outside of this fucked up country, and they just stand, bewildered, with their thumb up their collective arse. And thumb it though they might, I promise you, they won't come up with a better answer. Keep trying though, I'm sure you'll find gold if you dig down deep enough.

>>41783464
Only not paying for specific tiers maybe, but the point of my posts was that expecting everyone to be smart enough to dump everything is a folly you should know first-hand being a /jp/sie. It's not a scraper.

>>41783479
explain how what you just wrote is different from;
>>So what you are saying is that Japan doesn't have a good alternative for American card companies.

Are they going to remove 2D works or not?
It doesn't seem they have given a answer to just how much is being banned on Pixiv pay sites.

>>41781707
>The banks don't want their name associated with underage porn because activist have threatened to go after them
Are you suggesting activists can cancel richest, most powerful people in the world and those activists are not funded by people running those card companies?

>>41783491
>Japan has their own credit cards they could use, but even if Pixiv had no other options but Japanese payment options (a lesson every single Japanese website learned was retarded back when NND did it) all that means is they're innately making less money.
I literally have no idea how I could even begin to possibly explain it any simpler than that. Maybe "Japan have own funny magic money square, but America also have magic money square, and we want both magic money square."

>>41779608
For everyone here who thinks the announcement was ambiguous because they're retarded and this won't actually end up affecting 2D art. Think again.
The list of content in that announcement that is going to be banned from Fanbox and PixivRequests is pretty much copy-pasted from VISA's own list of prohibited content in their "Brand Protection and Use of the Visa-owned Marks" section of their TOS. And that section also clarifies that it APPLIES TO DRAWINGS, ARTWORK, COMPUTER GENERATED IMAGES, AND CARTOONS AS WELL.
https://twitter.com/tatsunoritoku/status/1592457935829225472

This new policy is 100% only being instituted because Pixiv is choosing VISA and Mastercard over its own users. Fanza, DMM, and DLsite all told VISA and Mastercard to fuck off when they threatened to cut payment processing over this exact same issue and they're doing just fine.
Pixiv is not the same website that we all grew up with. It's now run by spineless, greedy cowards and their website deserves to fail.

>>41783537
>For everyone here who thinks the announcement was ambiguous because they're retarded and this won't actually end up affecting 2D art.
Was... that even up for debate? I thought the main thing was if it'd affect Pixiv or just Fanbox.

>>41783524
So what you are basically saying is that Japan's funny magic square is not good enough of an alternative to say fuck you to America's magic money square. Got it.

>>41783537
So, what does Fanza, DMM, and DLsite use for payment transactions?

>>41783573
How many Japanese credit cards do you own?

>>41783576
I buy stuff on DLSite sometimes and I have to buy a coupon, that is exchanged to loyalty points on DLSite, on some other website that isn't blocked from international payments.
It's a bit of a hassle but not really a big deal.

>>41783573
It's almost like a global site with a primary language of Japanese, a small country, with a secondary main language of English, the literal fucking lingua franca, might want to try and continue serving English customers to a degree. I can understand if you personally are upset by this, i'm posting in this thread with you and I'm just as pissed as the next guy by this decision, but the idea that just the process of having Mastercard or Visa or Paypal or fucking whatever as an additional payment processor isn't a massive boon is a retarded one.

>>41779714
People on IC are saying a big reason is likely due to chinks spamming AI CP and including QR codes that take you to Telegram channels with real CP.

>>41779608
Well. Time to cancel my Pixiv premium i guess.

>>41779834
You know they're not going to stop at Fanbox and the like right? It's going to apply to the main site as well. They're slowly lowering themselves into the pool, not cannonballing.

>>41783573
>Mastercard
>America's magic money square
Try a quarter of the globe.

>>41783660
What makes you think this?

>>41783660
This is surely correct because VISA and Mastercard can be used to buy pixiv premium and that will end up conflicting with the same TOS those companies are forcing on Pixiv Fanbox/Requests.

>>41783684
>>41783696

>>41783703
But Pixiv and Pixiv Fanbox are two separate things. Pixiv Premium doesn't sell any services beyond QoL and that's the only payment on Pixiv.

>>41783717
Why would that matter at all?
VISA and Mastercard's TOS in >>41783537 are so that their logos don't end up on websites that are offering what they see as "problematic" content. Their TOS are extremely clear about what websites that use their logos are not allowed to host and that includes "cartoons of child sexual abuse/rape/incest/bestialiaty/etc".

>>41783743
So then Pixiv can just not take their services for Premium, a service that barely outside of Japan even begins to sell peanuts compared to Fanbox?

get archiveteam to scrape the entire thing NOW

>>41781707
>Don't blame website owners you morons.
You can though. DMM cut Mastercard out and is till doing fine. Pixiv could do the same. But they are greedy so they caved instead. You can absolutely blame Pixiv here since they should not be as reliant on western credit card companies as the average western website.

>>41783543
Was... that even up for debate?
Aparently yes, it was. Even in this thread there are those that insist this is only for IRL material in response to some chinese pixiv users last week using QR codes to link to private telegrams that contained the real thing.

>>41783617
They better hope global market will be worth it because this will cause a massive drop in their artist count and userbase and might actually end up killing the website.

>>41783786
>DMM
Why do people keep bringing up the site that isn't in english in regards to english payment processors? VK probably doesn't use mastercard either.

>>41782499
Yes, actually. Banning extreme shit allows them to creep more and more into less extreme shit. It normalizes people to it. It grooms them, you could say.

>>41783796
If it goes down has some here are saying then yeah. Pixie wanted to be a global brand, but it's forgetting just what nade it popular in the first place.
Just another Deviantart is probably awaiting their future.

>>41782499
Anything from Game of Thrones to Grapes of Wrath would violate these Card Company's TOS you complete and utter smooth-brained fuck.

>>41783796
>killing the website
Pixiv is in the same state as NND where it's too big to fail. You can quote that part alone and use it to make an argument if you'd like, but NND has been in the red for more than half of it's life and Pixiv by nature of being an imagehosting website with barely nothing to pay for beyond blocking more tags or seeing works by rating, two things not even remotely comparable to NND's full-quality videos or faster and also pre-buffering more than than two videos at a time, so it's not going to die from this. It's just going to take a huge hit.

>>41783835
Large websites usually don't just "die" the way you're thinking.
Tumblr didn't "die" either, but everyone considers it dead. And for good reason.

>>41783849
Anon, NND has been dead since before Tumblr even existed by that logic. A website or its services death is very well documented; Myspace, Digg, Geocities, so on and so forth.

Does Skeb allow westerners yet? It seems like the only site at this point that held it's shit together even if it needed a special coin of it's own

honestly between all of the loli images, loli doujins, loli OVAs, and loli eroge I've downloaded, I have enough to last me a life time. I'm not worried for myself but it would be shame if loli artists couldn't earn an income for their work. do loli doujins still get sold at cons in japan? I don't really keep up with stuff like that

>>41782816
a lot of them are just popular characters mashed together, like the suika x tohru one (even containing the ribbon)
chinks gonna chink

>>/jp/thread/41051239

remember when this happened like a month ago and everybody said there wasn't a slippery slope lmao

>>41782649
godspeed

>>41784058
I can't believe Americans would do this...

>>41784058
That didn't have anything to do with the content of the site, just the working environment / HR department of the company itself.
Please learn to read, anon.

>>41780009
>How are they posting CP on Pixiv if it's illegal?
glowniggers obviusly

>>41784058
These are two completely separate issues though?

Apparently it's more to do with chinks and other fuckers embedding AI and generating images with actual CP too. Can anyone confirm?

>>41784107
How would anyone know? Do you think anons here work at pixiv or mastercard management?

>>41784075
If you're STILL in denial of how adopting "diversity and inclusion" policies always means a company is going to be more globally aware, western pandering and prone to censorship than I don't know what to tell you. It tells you EVERYTHING about their future plans. Pattern reocgnition, people

>>41781873
>(((())))
fuck off back to >>>/pol/ kudasai

>>41784075
dawg the censorship literally JUST GOT IMPLEMENTED

>>41784081
Clearly not, given that they put out one thing 2 weeks ago and this happens immediately after.

>>41784129
>>41784141
Are you both genuinely retarded, or just one extra special boy? Mastercard has no hold over how Pixiv treats its staff.

>>41784159
Pixiv put out a "diversity, equity and inclusion" pledge. 3 weeks later they announce massive, site-killing censorship.

We have eyes.

>>41784149
How does the CEO firing some homo and getting clearly successfully sued for being a homophobe relate to credit card companies?

>>41784170
>hire tranny
>2 weeks later, CEO out
>day after that, pledge "global standards" and "inclusive values
>2 weeks later, new CEO implements censorship to comply with "global payment processors"
Do you, like, not see the obvious pattern here.

I really can't believe Pixiv of all things might get more tame than US hentai sites. For all their shittiness, they still allow guro, bestiality, and shota/loli.
Why not just go to a donation system? Or one where you can use checking/debit? I think DMM uses some kind of gift card thing?

> Skebでは特定の決済手段への依存を脱却するために、
> 2022年からSkeb CoinやSkebポイントといった様々な仕組みの整備を進めております。

Just got this mail, nice timing.
If this really allows to bypass credit card companies BS I wouldn't mind them expanding into fanbox' niche.

So where do all the Jap artists move? Skeb? Fantia?

>>41784177
Oh wow, you actually read the thread and managed to somehow come to this completely fucking insane conclusion. I can't tell whats funnier; the implication that they're only sticking with Mastercard/visa as a cover for cleaning up the old CEO's mess or that massive changes can be made in mere weeks for a website that took nearly that long just to make a basic statement on the Yukkuri thing,

>>41784170
>>41784159
Stop damage controlling. Everyone can see how they are related.

>>41784107
It's obviously not just about 3D or IRL content because the list of banned content in the announcement here https://www.pixiv.net/info.php?id=8788 explicitly lists the TOS for Brand Protection of credit card companies the violation of it as being impetus to this update.
>Furthermore, the rules or policies of Brand Protection for Card Networks transactions for content that is patently offensive, unethical, or promote criminal activity; such as, by way of example and not limitation:
>・Sexual exploitation of a minor
>・Incest
>・Bestiality
>・Rape (or any other non-consensual sexual behavior)
>・Non-consensual mutilation of a person or body part　
>Under the Service Master Terms of Use, we ask that all users check for items that include the above content on BOOTH, pixivFANBOX, and the pixiv Requests feature, and if such content is found, delete the items or set them to private.

and the TOS for Brand Protection of credit card companies specifically lists "computer generated images and cartoons" that contain that kind of content are also actionable under their Terms.
See >>41783537

I think we should give up, we already know any outcry is futile, i don't care about loli/guro, but rape/incest is like 90% of doujin, and it seems the text doesn't explicity targets loli but can also means JCs and JKs.
Let's be real here, we are not normal, even if it is just a drawing, can you imagine telling your parents or any woman that you know that you masturbate to teacher mind controlling their students to rape them doujin? No way they will forgive you.
It's better that things develop this way, otakus need to be exterminated, we are no good for society, "evil" as they say.
I hope in the future the police knock on my door and i am executed by firing squad for masturbating to Megumin fanart. It's the logical and final conclusion for otakus as a social group.

pixiv was a shitty js ridden piece of crap good riddance

>>41784177
Who are you quoting?

>>41784141
I don't understand how you could possibly think the two things are related.
Did you read either of them?

>pixiv got sued so hard they changed payment processors
Who linked this thread and to where? I refuse to believe this board is this retarded.

>>41784194
i'm just showing a clear pattern of events.

>>41784214
I'm already suicidal, so I'm just sort of waiting for the exit sign to come on.

>>41784214
Fuck off with your gaslighting

>>41784214
You have the option of killing yourself right now.

>>41784203
The only shining beacon there is that they are not asking for the removal of the stuff on the main website.
They might do it later, but they are going to kill Fanbox and Request right now. Porn is their bread and butter, and even the most big boobed loving fan artists still draw loli.

>>41784214
>rape
can be fixed with a single "I want you to..." text bubble or a bonus drawing at the end showing that the girl consented or something, not the biggest issue. doubt anything but loli and guro are gonna be enforced though

>>41784220
A sequence of events that are documented.

>>41784223
Yes, I did. I read the diversity statement where they pledged to focus on "Inclusion" and then I see they did this to comply with payment processors who openly implement "inclusion" policies.

>>41784237
All this stuff isn't allowed on the main site already, no?

>>41784244
>with payment processors who openly implement "inclusion" policies.
You mean "covering their own asses legally because a good chunk of the world they work in views 2D porn as bad as 3D porn"?

You're forgetting that Bongland, another big place they work in, literally has banned the depiction of the female orgasm in porn. Like, what are they supposed to do, fight three different governments?

>>41784248
I don't know about guro, but there are tags for everything else, well except sexual exploitation of a minor, which would be loli/shota.

>clearly pointing out (((them))) and the fact that the banks are pozzed and America's "morals" are fucked and fucks up everything for everyone else is bad

>>41784129
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/articles/e00caada9e0b27c85e2a84cdafad4f905159c191

>>41784244
>where they pledged to focus on "Inclusion"
That's bullshit talking about their hiring, not their site policies.
If you knew Japanese, no one was talking about Pixiv censoring artists because of what happened with the tranny, you buffoon.
Now, the entirety of Japanese Twitter is up in arms. So much so that "incest" became the top trending tag on Japanese twitter today with more than 90k tweets.

it's incredible how you crossboarding faggots always out yourselves in this type of thread

>>41784248
Announcement made it clear it's only on those three websites that require monetary transactions. Nothing about their main website.
Wouldn't be surprised if they do it later though.
They have become drunk on retards using their credit cards and just letting the card keep making payments even if the user completely forgets about it. Businesses that take monthly charges like gyms get their money that way.

>>41784254
>Bongland, another big place they work in, literally has banned the depiction of the female orgasm in porn.
>Oh scrumptious tea, I'm gonna CU-
>BOOM BOOM CRASH
OI OI HAVE YOU GOT A LOICENCE FOR THAT ORGASM?
This can't be real right?

>>41784129
This is a Japanese company. I won't believe them until their offices are full of blue-haired bearded troons and that's not going to happen, you stupid fuck stick.

>>41783684
>"Oh we're sorry but even though this artist's Fanbox holds no objectionable content, their main Pixiv page does. Because both sites are connected, we interpret this as a violation of our TOS and so in order to protect our brand we cannot continue to allow our services to be used by your sites unless things are cleaned up on all ends."

For any anon who genuinely believes this is a /jp/ thread that isn't getting raided and destroyed by random retards, I direct you to >>41784262. Enjoy your schizo fun until bumplimit I suppose. Still better than Vtuber threads.

>>41784285
Took 'em five years, mate, that it did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiovisual_Media_Services_Regulations_2014

>>41784254
>Like, what are they supposed to do, fight three different governments?
Yes, if they give a fig about their artists. Incorporate in the US and claim 1A protections.

>If you knew Japanese, no one was talking about Pixiv censoring artists
Yeah, because Japanese people have seen this song and dance less than Americans have. Any corporate DEI statement is followed by actions like this.

>Now, the entirety of Japanese Twitter is up in arms.
And I hope that they're successful, especially now that Elon fired those content curators, but they're fighting an uphill battle here.

>>41784248
"ロリ" is literally one of the biggest tags on the site with over 670k works.

>>41784263
>The specified URL did not exist.

>>41784319
Pixiv従業員セクハラ裁判事件

>>41784287
Shall we take a look at Sony with playstation? Or Square Enix openly mouthing off about all this woke garbage and hiring internal censors? Or what ArcSys did to Bridget? Not a single non-Japanese name on those mastheads.

>>41784314
Elon is based though
>can openly call people niggers, shit on Jews, and constantly tell trannies they will never be women without getting banned anymore
He unironically saved twitter

>>41784327
>Or what ArcSys did to Bridget?
But wasn't that all the creator's doing? To the point of them having to confirm it multiple times in interviews?

>>41784328
Yes, Elon firing all the jptwit jannies is the only reason that jptwit is full of unified opposition and outrage. If he hadn't done that, the top Tweets would be defenses of this from HuffPo Japan.

>>41784327
>Or what ArcSys did to Bridget?
How did /v/ find out about this thread?

>>41784328
Doesn't paypal do the same shit as mastercard and visa?

>>41784337
My exact point; you don't need a bunch of blue-haired foreign troons in your office to turn it, well, woke, for lack of a better term.

>To the point of them having to confirm it multiple times in interviews?
I still personally believe it was in response to Twitter threats/gaslighting, not that it matters at this point.

>>41784327
The bridget thing was apparently intended for the start, and even if it wasn't and that's just ass covering you're saying this about the same company that made Blazblue before any of this shit was happening in Japan.

>>41784203
And then you remember that yesterday's announcement only said that people were violating their terms of use, and that they're going to update them for clarit.
And then you find their actual terms of use: https://policies.pixiv.net/en.html
Which makes you realize that instead of only those five things, they're also banning images that show drugs, weapons, every kind of obscene porn, panties, enkou, tabaco, thievery, cameras, dead humans, animals, and Kemono Friends.
You then think "wow that sure makes a lot of sense!" and that makes you go back to whatever you were doing before.

>>41784337
The only reason they even went that route was because retards kept harassing them and apparently some other retards were showing fake emails under their name or something but honestly they only brougutnit up because strive, as a game is shit and to deflect from that

>>41784349
Literally was just to deflect from the fact drive has jo content and is a shit a game

>>41780563
>what is Unionpay

>>41784355
Your phones autocorrect is shit.

>>41784341
It was a pretty big news story in Japanese entertainment, anon.

>>41784349
>intended from the start
No way; the entire story for that character was about coming to terms with being a guy despite being raised as a girl. The sudden turn in this game was the equivalent of Goku suddenly deciding he didn't like fighting.

>Blazblue
Games with gender-bending or exploration of sexuality aren't automatically woke. Hell, Bridget was that until they forcibly changed him.

>>41784344
no, it does worse shit

>>41784327
Even if you were right (and you're not), then it still would take them longer than 3 months to hire a bunch of trannies that would then purposefully change decade old site policy regarding the moderation of content.
While trannies are invasive and almost always want to destroy good things, you're a simpleton that doesn't undertand how hiring works or how unlikely and long it would take for a newcomer to convince a Japanese company to change everything about itself.

>>41784344
Yes, no payment transaction service really wants to deal with porn these days.
Laws in the West has made it harder for them to function. The US is going crazy over the fight against CP and sexual exploitation(i.e.prostitution), while some other nations are straight up banning cartoon porn in general.
It's pretty crazy.

Oh boy, can't wait until someone decided to visit pixiv's HQ.

Bridget was only cute as a trap shota. Once he grew up because of the time skip in the new game, it didn't matter anymore what the fuck they wanted to call him. He's old and gross now.

>>41783812
The issue is that this shit didn't exist when Pixiv started getting big. It didn't even exist 5 years ago. It's a result of American moral crusaders (in this case, the Evangelical Christcuck ones) wanting to ban things they don't like and they lucked out in finding stuff on Pornhub that involved underage teenagers whose ages weren't verified which started the shitshow of processors not allowing their services to be used on porn tubes which resulted in a lot of amateur porn, JAV, etc. being removed.

The processors always dabbled in it a little bit (I think the whole Patreon hentai thing was around the same time) but that's when they went all in on acting as the abrogators of immorality because they're terrified of another similar situation arising.

>>41784360
It's as the anon above said: they were saying because of retards pressuring them, impersonating emails, and the fact the fact the game's dogshit with no content (which is true)

>>41784363
>it still would take them longer than 3 months
Sony went from porn games on the Vita to Cali censorship in 2.

>how unlikely and long it would take for a newcomer to convince a Japanese company to change everything about itself
It takes much less time than you'd think. All you need to do is dangle US investment.

>>41784360
>Games with gender-bending or exploration of sexuality aren't automatically woke.
>Hell, Bridget was that until they forcibly changed him.
I don't understand how you can preclude the second sentence with the first; Bridget's a character whose story could have gone either direction. Hell, most of XX is explicitly not canon if you'd actually play the game and has been for over a decade now, the entire story you're talking about hasn't actually been a thing since Ino fixed the timelines back at the end of XX iirc.

>>41784376
>Evangelical Christcuck
It's 2022, you cannot seriously believe that US evangelicals have any cultural power. It isn't christfags who killed Senran Kagura.

>>41784376
>implying its christcucks or crusaders
>now SJWs and jews

>>41784379
>Sony went from porn games on the Vita to Cali censorship in 2.
No it didn't. It took them over a year to move their HQ to california and even longer to implement new policies. And they were censoring games years before that even happened.

>>41784376
>I think the whole Patreon hentai thing was around the same time
What are you talking about anon? Patreon has been forced to ban controversial topics for more than 5 years now and it was payment processors forcing their hand.

>>41784380
>Bridget's a character whose story could have gone either direction.
His costume literally had a giant male symbol on the hat until Strive.

>>41784378 is right; it was sociopathic troons with institutional support from Twitter.

>>41780422
Yeah. They have a lot of payment options too, I like it. Unfortunately they yanked bitcoin somewhat recently.

>>41784394
The sudden imposition of censorship policies started, at its earliest, with the horrible release of DoA6, which was roughly 6 weeks after the move to Cali was complete.

>>41784397
I like how you ignored the part of the post that was "the majority of Bridgets story was made non-canon a decade ago along with the entire game it all happened in".
Remember; Ino straight up got her soul wiped from existence at the end of the game, which later got retconned into said timeline merging and fixing.

>>41784401
You're a newfag. It was happening back on PS3, you stupid piece of shit.
Look at what happened to monster musume or any of those other games that were forced to censor themselves back in like 2014.

>>41784214
>and it seems the text doesn't explicity targets loli but can also means JCs and JKs
Not even just that. If it's like other sites or even country, all it has to be is someone who LOOKS young enough and it'll be considered a violation.

>>41784360
>genderbending isnt gay dude I swear
>its only exploration if they come to the answer I like
I legitimately do not give a single shit if Bridgets one or the other but you've gotta be kidding me. You're gay anon, it's okay to be so here.

>>41784406
And absolutely none of this made the character trans, a thing that didn't even fucking exist when that game came out.

The trans retcon was entirely new and not remotely backed up by lore at all. Combined with the fact that Daisuke all but alluded to a concerted pressure campaign from social media and it's pretty clear what happened.

>>41784401
>core values happened
>a year or so later mc rib got ousted as kiddie didler
That was a great. Also fuck shimbori and KY for caving into pressure, going into muh esports territory when the "fgc" kept shitting on the game and saying that it will be taken seriously which is ironic as fuck because even after sfv and all the pros pushing for the esports no one takes the fgc seriously at all

die

>>41784409
I was buying uncensored loli hentai vita games in 2014.

>>41784415
Exploring gender norms and insisting that any character who explores gender norms must be transgender are literal opposites.

>>41784397
>>41784378
>impersonating emails
What? You mean as in twitter troons impersonating asw or what?

>>41784421
I have dreams that DoA7 will reverse course... someday.

>>41784417
Anon, Bridget debuted in XX. The game that was made almost entirely non-canon. To put it in another way, have you ever read One Piece? Bridget is Shiki; a character who has a story outside of canon that is explicitly non-canon but only the character and very very vague elements of who they were are implemented into canon. If you've played Guilty Gear or Blazblue I'm sure you can think of a couple other examples, like Ragna "Retroactively Never Existed" The Bloodedge. It's not something new they've done.

Strive is Bridget's first canon appearance. The story in Strive is the canon story to that character. I-no is the only exception to that rule.

>>41784423
Sorry, there's still about 12 hours before this thread is gone. Used to be 24 before vtubers came along though.
But don't worry, someone will immediately remake this thread as soon as it's archived and spam the same uninformed shit once again.

>>41784426
Troons were, with full support from Twitter, impersonating ArcSys and game developers on Twitter and loudly posting their canon, then sending threats to anyone from ArcSys who tried to walk it back.

Thank fucking god this thread is dead. I hope all of you crossies fuck off.

>>41784376
If you think evangelical christians mean anything in the US you're stuck in a time warp to at least 14 years ago.

>>41784442
Jesus fucking christ

>>41784184
How does sites like Sankaku and Danbooru keep all their loli and shit when they also use things like Mastercard and Paypal to charge for their gold accounts?
Why is Pixiv seemingly going even harder then websites that US based?

>>41784438
A game's "canon" status doesn't matter when you're explicitly bringing a (fan-favorite!) character BACK from that game due to customer demand.

This shit would be like McDonald's bringing back the McRib but made of Impossible Meat, and, when people complained, yelling "IT WAS NEVER A REGULAR MENU ITEM".

>>41784425
CERO has banned the sale of "uncensored" games for decades, anon.
A single nipple will give your game a CERO Z rating and thus make it unreleasable and that's been true well before the PSP even came out, let alone the Vita, you zoomer shithead.

>>41784460
Potemkin is dead.

>>41784364
>Laws in the West has made it harder for them to function.
They wanted laws to be like that. Do you honestly believe these powerful and influential people behind payment processing companies not control politicians? They want to push cultural changes. They want to promote ESG values while banning stuff like loli.

>>41784461
I was buying shit in 2014 that wouldn't ever be published on a Sony platform not 5 months later, then; there.

>>41784390
>>41784393
The Pornhub thing was a result of this group: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Center_on_Sexual_Exploitation

They have an innocuous name but they're an anti-porn Christian advocacy/pressure group. They caught on to using the courts to file lawsuits back in the late 2010s which is when all of this shit started ramping up.

>>41784445
Oh no people are discussing big news related to biggest art website that otakus use censoring essentially half of it's content. This board is only meant for unfunny touhou memes.

>>41781188
Israel.

>>41784214
they'll pry my lolis from my cold dead hands

>>41784477
Got it, Christians are somehow powerful enough to ban porn, but not enough to stop any other political developments in the US.

>>41781870
>artist that draw ケモノ are leaving because count as bestiality too.
Please tell me this is a joke

>>41781870
Hopefully this announcement gave them all time to set up contingencies.

>no rape
WHAT THE FUCK
THE EAST HAS LITERALLY FALLEN
WHAT'S THE POINT OF EASTERN PORN WITHOUT RAPE?

>>41780143
Honestly that is the only choice.

>>41784482
There's lots of doomposting about loli but I have faith that we will find ways to circumvent this kind of bullshit even if things get much worse.

>>41784499
Yep, christcucks are not interested in BLM/Antifa burning cities down and trannies forcing hormones into children but oh my god those drawings that can’t consent are being raped by le alt right nazis.
It’s so tiresome.

>>41784546
Stop being transphobic you tourist, this is /jp/.

>>41784558
This thread is an inter-board concession under the Harris Treaty and the Kanagawa Convention of 1868. Other boards may operate sovereign legations in this thread without Shogunal interference.

pffffft, dumbshit westerners started outnumbering japs long time ago and now the NovelAI shit. This site is overdue

>>41784558
suck my chud cock

>>41784586
They won't touch this site outside the bare minimum because this shithole is a honeypot and has been for years

>>41784590
I meant pixiv, and that's true.

>>41784558
What >>41784585 said.

I hope this puritanical porn witch hunt comes to bit back their own ass I'm the future. There already been reports of people in TikTok calling height differences in relationships "pedophillic", I hope everyone dies.

>>41784617
>cant be a 25 yo and date 19 or 20 yo because its le pedophilia despite the later actually being legal and the fact that most relationships have ane age gap where the guy is slightly older anyways
Man

>>41784617
I hope all moralfags and authoritarians die. World would be a better place for the rest of the people.

>>41784617
This puritanical porn witch hunt is the reason why most American men are circumcised, actually.

Man and I was about to come back to pixiv after a year-long hiatus and now this shit is happening? AI shit was fucking annoying but now this takes the cake. The worst part is that, you know for a fact that, the new Twitter CEO who-shall-not-be-named will probably fuck artists even more. It's only a matter of time.

>>41784692
Actually no because Musk is gonna give the artists an opportunity to make money by paywalling their art

If artists didnt paywall jpegs we would not be in this scenario
go back to mail ordering

>>41784477
What's really funny about this group is that they only started to see success after they adopted leftist rhetoric and talking points.

>>41784457
Sankaku and Danbooru hide their lolis behind accounts and paywalls. Who knows how long that will last though. Rule 34 xxx and Paheal have already begun disavowing loli shit.

>>41784707
Twitter already bans loli and other extreme content, they are just terrible at enforcing it. Also they cuck easily to DMCAs, it's why Nintendo fanartists constantly get fucked over.

>>41784742
rule34 xxx has always banned loli art.
paheal has always had that announcement on their front page but never bans loli shit.
sankaku and gelbooru hide it behind making an account, but so does pixiv, so that isn't a problem.
Danbooru has always been shit.

>>41784214
Fuck off, defeatist piece of shit.

>>41784769
You don't need an account to see loli on gelbooru

The japs were the last bastion of civilized humanity. Now everything is crumbling. The future looks bleak.

>>41784791
Danbooru you need a promoted account

Sankakucomplex needing accounts to view loli is actually a very recent thing, coincidentally happened right after Brittany benti made a stink about Gura Gura art

Gelbooru they recently made it so that you need to check some sort of box, no need for account yet

Brittany Venti*

>>41784802
>venti
The fuck did that grifting bitch get mad at now, is she still trying to appeal to "tradfags" or something?

>>41784831
it was a long time ago so I don't remember the specifics, but she kept going on a twitter tirade over Gura Gura fanart calling it the usual pedo or something.

Gawr Gura*, can't believe I messed that up twice

>>41784831
She said anyone who liked Gura was a pedo.
But it was two years ago, anon. Just forget about her. She's not worth the space in your head.

>>41784843
>Just forget about her. She's not worth the space in your head.
He said after bringing up attention whore bitch out of nowhere.

>>41784866
That was me, not him, I was just noting how coincidental it was that Sankucomplex implemented those changes right at the same time that shitstorm was brewing. personally I don't think it was a coincidence

And now it looks like everyone's catching the (wrong) news saying that everything will get deleted, making them archive the whole site in a panic, which is making it slow as shit.

>>41784866
Sorry, I should of said NTA or something.
I'm not the same anon that brought her up. I just remembered what happened.

>>41784836
>>41784843
I don't know who that ho is but why can't these people accept that this type of fanart and preferences have existed in Japan way longer than their time breathing in this planet? Some even call the sfw non-suggestive fanart pedo shit as well.

>>41784902
That bitch doesn't have that sort of influence. Barely anyone outside of chans know her.

>>41784939
You are probably right, but it did make right-wing /pol/-lite Twitter go retard for a while, and Sankakucomplex is unapologetically right-wing if you read their articles.

>>41784843
>We cannot rent free

>>41784841
It's ok anon, vshit is a disease so it's better if you slowly forget about it.

>>41784184
>>41784457
I imagine its because they're selling access to larger tag searches and other features, and not "selling loli"
The fact that whatever premium status also unhides the loli by coincidence makes it slip past their radar.

>>41784058
>>41784327
Hate to bring up Bridget, but when that whole fiasco was flamming it's flames Pixiv's Pixivision wrote an entire article full of virtue signalling pozz and placed it on the front page, even if you use JP Pixiv (which is what I used), it would automatically link you to the English article full of cringe.

basically what I'm saying is that the writing has been on the wall and I don't think any of these happenings are mere coincidences

>R-18G

Sucks that normal artists will be fucked over by evil corp though

>Then again it took Japan 2 nukes to make a bill about raising the age of consent 13 to 16 on a federal level recently

>>41780080
SubscribeStar isnt Russian..... Right ??????

Is there any way to scrape pixiv that isn't a pain in the ass?

Is it just me or is Pixiv loading pages real slow?

>>41785353
No it's not just you

>>41785353
maybe it's because of what this anon wrote? >>41784911

>>41785353
AI spam still going + This news = Chaos on Pixiv Server

You guys had a chance with irori, but it died. This is your fate.

>they thought the all-ages future was a joke

what about fantia though? is it gone too?

>>41785547
No

>>41784558
not your hugbox, tranny

Assuming this is all payment processing jewery, where does this put other sites like melonbooks or dlsite? Is it only a matter of time? Surely they'd know the otaku backlash of denying artists of their livelihood.

>>41785421
I always saw it, but What was irori even? It died?

>>41785549
well it's system is atrocious but I guess most artist will migrate there

>>41785591
can western artist even access it or it just a jap thing

Anybody archiving or does everybody needs to save their shit themselves?

>>41785594
i don't know, can't recall ever seeing any western artist there

>>41785176
https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/7972
Bleh, you weren't joking. The irony is most if not all Bridget works on pixiv are still tagging him as a guy. I suppose this means the virtue signaling is only a concept from their western PR division, or something?

>>41784442
literally the opposite happened, it was the people who were mad about bridget being trans who were making fake arcsys emails

>>41784244
this happened because people were selling actual CP on Pixiv, anon. the tranny getting harassed had nothing to do with this.

>>41785596
kemono.party has a lot of the paywalled stuff from fanbox but unless someone has been privately archiving pixiv in it's entirety a lot is gone forever

>>41785677
>these people are selling cp in our website what should we do?
>uhhh, idk. ban incest and gore lol.

>>41785689
mastecard/visa stepped in because of sells of CP
looked at what the site was actually selling
told them they wouldnt do business if they kept selling that stuff, either

its like how pornhub had to delete 90% of its content because there was some revenge porn on it

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/102839949

this is the kind of shit that's getting banned, morons, not art of blue archive lolis or whatever

spend five seconds on the latest page for loli and its 90% of what you see, theyre right to ban it

>>41785724
Not only you are a dumb moralfag but you are also retarded. I expected real pizza when i checked loli tag but these are just generic AI generated shit. New ToS will be effective by December 15, meaning blue archive lolis won't be allowed no.

>>41785724
>An error has occurred.
>The creator has limited who can view this content
Hmmmmmm

>>41785594
I have an account there just to view free images that are locked behind following certain artists, but I have no idea if I could set up any sort of payment thing.

ITT: Where oh where can I beat my meat to little girls now?

Month five of so-called Japanese Culture Experts from Ohio bitching about Bridget. Love to see it.

>>41785753
bet you five bucks blue archive lolis will still be allowed on fanbox/booth, etc

and bet you 200 that they'll still be allowed on the main site

>>41785826
There's still plenty of places for that, including 4chan.

Can you who fluent in Japanese translate this ?
https://twitter.com/yamadataro43/status/1592505864988282880

>>41785956
There is literally a translate button on the website you retard.

>>41785964
I want to hear it from Japs themselves than relying to Machine translation

>>41785844
Sauce?

The replies to their twitter announcement are something else.
>獣姦を含むコンテンツや商品の取引が禁止されたら異種和姦がリクエスト出来なくなるの?

>kikes
>trannies
>chud
>mutt
This thread...

>>41786164
https://exhentai.org/g/1574443/fe3e4320ae/

>>41786170
lmao

DeepL translates that to "interracial" when it's supposed to "interspecies", making for a funny sentence

異種和姦 = interspecies

>>41782381
>Reminder that the anti lolicon brigade are IRL pedos
Spoken like an ironic lolicon. It's even funnier when you're posting a WEBM made by "IRL pedos" on /tv/ too.
You ironics have no self-awareness.

This whole thread is Twitter.

>>41784479
It's meant for vtumors that think they are too hip to move their chatroom generals to the dedicated board