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>Western 3D shit
>good

>>4069886
Oh no you didn't, not to Holmes

>>4069886
Hey now, Holmes is a bro.

I am as straight as a man can be. That said, I would do Robert Downy Jr.

Robert Downey Jr is a sexy beast.

I remember when he was still fucked up on drugs. Good thing he got off them because he's a decent actor.

>>4070024
During his fucked up phase he got kicked out of a hotel I was staying at because he trashed his room.

>>4070024
This. I wonder why he even used the stuff in the first place, he's pretty good. Bit biased since Iron Man and Tropic Thunder, but...

Umineko? Man, Sherlock Holmes was a Bond film if anything.

Too lazy to download it.

>>4070054
This. Though I think I will sometime this week, before spring semester is back in session, if only to see how much justice they did to Holmes.

>>4070088

Or how much injustice they did, right?

/tv/ ------------>>>>>

>>4070130
Well, it's an adaptation. You know how it goes.
I try to look at the glass as half full rather than half empty.

Too much fighting, too little actual mystery solving. The mysteries weren't even tough to figure out, lowest common denominator tripe.
As a Sherlock Holmes story, it was a disappointment. As a Movie, it was okay. As a good Umineko, don't make me laugh.

>>4070148
>I try to look at the glass as half full rather than half empty.
This is a stupid cliche.
If you are emptying a glass and stop halfway, it is half empty.
If you are filling a glass and stop halfway, it is half full.

I thought it was great. Incredibly fun, Jude Law and Robert Downey Jr. have a great dynamic going on. It's not really a mystery movie though

>>4070202
Exactly?
I'm going from zero and hoping to be pleasantly surprised, not going from the top and looking for mistakes. That was the entire point: optimism.

>>4070202
But... what if you come across a glass that is already half-empty/full? Huh? What then, Mr. Smartguy?

>>4070229
Then it is a glass containing a liquid equal to half its total volume.

>It's like Umineko

magic, witches etc. stuff?

>>4070256
I don't know, man. Can you really tell that much just by eyeballing it?

This was a shitty movie in every way possible (except special effects, I suppose).

But umineko is good...

>>4070263
Yeah, then they are explained with SCIENCE

>>4069849
you forgot to mention how it broke Knox rules and how it was an unsolvable mystery because the detective with held details of each scene from the viewer until he decided to solve it.

it was a decent holywood action movie. unfortunately this means they missed the genre they should have been adapting almost entirely.

>>4070591
Ah, so it really is a good Umineko.

>>4070620
Terrible.

Can't get over the portrayal in the trailers. Also looks incredibly "action packed" and is likely a Hollywood murder mystery drama, where the murder and the mystery are just a plot device, not a puzzle.

>>4070620

Pretty much this.

Umineko is a good, tough mystery that by and large follows the rules enough to be interesting. It is built with the assumption that the reader should try to solve it.

The Sherlock Holmes movie assumes its viewers are idiots and is simply built to show Sherlock Holmes solving a mystery. There's nothing interesting about that.

If you read mystery novels for the ending as opposed to the mystery, you pretty much fail at the genre.

>>4070637
I also like how Umineko is mystery 101, metamystery learning for mystery beginners.

The trailer seemed like they had just done an action movie, make everyone dress up like it was happening in the past, give one guy a pipe and call him Sherlock Holmes.

>>4070637
>>4070642
And the answer of Umineko will be MPD and A BUTLER DID IT
Sure is great mystery.

>>4070637
>Umineko is a good, tough mystery that by and large follows the rules enough to be interesting.
>tough mystery
>Shkanontrice

Hahahahahaha...!

>>4070656

Anyone who thinks that Umineko wasn't tough, remember the following:

1. There was enough information available before the answer arcs to solve episodes 1-4.
2. You didn't solve it.

>>4070667
People saw the ShKanon thing from the second episode.
It was the most popular theory at that time.

>>4070672

It doesn't solve everything though. You can't just yell "SHKANNON" and have every single closed room disappear.

>>4070667
>2. You didn't solve it.

Mate, almost everyone saw Shkanon from the beginning. Almost nobody took it seriously just because it was far too ridiculous.

>Sherlock Holmes
>action movie

seriously? you best be trolling

>>4070672
yeah, but it wasn't even popular and people still didn't solve it

>>4070675
THIS, Shkanon doesn't magically solve every closed room in the game

>>4070679

Hollywood makes everything into an action movie.

>>4070667
Shkannon has been around forever, it's just fucking stupid and cheap. Real mystery writers would have a fucking conniption if they hear about this, it's a garbage plot device for a shoddy mystery.

Not to mention the romance drama and bullshit magic only take away from the mystery. If Battler wasn't such a sap, this would have been solved indeed back at EP4.

>>4070685
Actually it does.
The closed room in Umineko are all pretty easy.

>>4070685
But Shkanontricenzobattler2 does. Nanjohdatrice still needs some work, though.

>>4070681
>but it wasn't even popular

What? Shkanon has been far too popular for quite some time.

>people still didn't solve it

Because nobody took it seriously to try to solve the murders with it. Nobody expected such a ridiculous answer. Seriously, if I just lumped 3 people in 1 I could solve almost any closed room, in almost any mystery any time.

oh wow

>Sherlock Holmes thread
>suddenly Umineko and ShKanontrice

and I thought I was bad

Does it have Sherlock jumping with a background explosion?

>>4070693
yeah, like the murder of Nanjo when Shannon and Kanon are both dead, yeeeeeah
You need more than Shkanon to solve all the closed rooms. Also Natsuhi's room in ep2 if no one commited suicide and they were indeed dead

>>4070701
YES

>>4070705
Yeah you need ShKanonTRICE

Most classic mystery novels are pretty easy if you sit around in a group talking about them. Had to read a few in some lit classes, and weren't allowed to read ahead.

Cocaine! Cocainecocainecocaine I know there is cocaine in here I-

...Oh, its just Robert Downey Jr.


You are now imagining Robert Downey Jr. casted as Ronove and think its awesome.

>>4070707
what??

seriously? what Arthur Conan Doyle story did they adapt anyway? or is it hurp derp an original story from Hollywood featuring some guy coincidentally named Sherlock Holmes?

>>4070705
Shkanon with a Jessica culprit, or Shkannontrice solves any of the closed rooms.

>>4070705
>yeah, like the murder of Nanjo when Shannon and Kanon are both dead, yeeeeeah

You do know the "they dropped their names so they didn't actually die" has also been around for quite some time, right? The difference is, back then, we just thought of those things as jokes. You see people using those ideas now because this crap has basically got confirmed.

>>4070701
Actually, it had tons of them. At once.

>>4070713
!!!

>>4070719
I'm pretty sure most Holmes movies are original stories.

Red herrings

>>4070747

Something that will draw interest but have no real use?

>>4070734
Fuck yeah

>>4070741
greeeeat

probably except the Hound of the Baskervilles.

so that's why it's an action movie. I just don't remember any novel or short story written by Doyle where he jumps away from explosions.

>>4070717

Eh, there'd be better Ronoves.

Who was it, Antonio Banderas that we thought would be excellent?

>>4070747
I'd believe that if we weren't down to the last two episodes.

7 will reveal whoever the culprit is, so I can't see this ending well. Either Shkannon(trice) will be validated, or we'll get some fucking stupid out in left field answer. There's no way it will be satisfying, because Ryukishi got ahead of himself.

>>4070637
>>4070620
Fools!

I had solved it before the end of the movie!
I had guessed how he had "magically" killed everyone AND the substance he used to make himself appear dead!

Only normalfags know the names of actors.

>>4070775
You're only saying that because he has a dirty sanchez mustache.

>>4070775
Banderas, I always though that guy that made Dracula, Bram's version, was way better

>>4070773
>>4070741
There's a series of Russian Sherlock Holmes movies, they adapt books' stories and are actually great.

>>4070777

I'm hoping for a combination. A little bit of this, a little bit of that, basically. If the answer is exactly what everyone thought, it'll be boring.

>>4070782
It's right there in the poster

>>4070796
FUN FACT: the anwer should be what poeple think it is, it wouldn't be fair just do whatever you want after telling everybody to solve it

>>4070802

What, Ryukishi should change his ending to match the most popular theory?

How about no.

>>4070775

>>4070794
but this movie is action? so... if i wanted something from Conan Doyle's stories... I'm better off not watching this?

>>4070799
Only normalfags have reasonable cognitive abilities and awareness of their surroundings and the real world.

>>4070812
If you want a good detective movie, don't watch this. It's decent as an action, but doesn't have much in common with Sherlock Holmes at all.

>>4070779
I'd figured on how he managed to kill himself, and the loosely-glued rock was simple enough. I also knew there were chemicals that can induce a death-like state, the guy going through rain on what was otherwise a clear night made the gun trick obvious. Also knew there'd be something in the drink, just wasn't sure what.

>>4070808
Shkannon isn't popular in the slightest.

It is however, very strong.

>>4070816

Did you just insult your own intelligence?

>>4070816
lol

>>4070824
Yeah, it was uncharacteristically dumb of Sherlock to drink that.

>>4070828
Nope.
Because I'm a normalfag too.

>>4070840

Then you don't get to deem what is an is not a normalfag.

You are judged by others, not yourself.

>>4070821
right, thanks a lot

that Umineko theory hijack was meaningful.

>>4070840
What a twist.

Mystery genre is for pretentious faggots who think they are smart.

>>4070864
>Puzzles are stupid!

>>4070851
I don't really thing it's a highjack if it's mention in the OP.

>>4070846
awww you just want to be a normalfag too. come join us its fun! we go outside! and talk to girls! and solve mysteries!

>>4070872
I like that last part...but...

>>4070869
theoriiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssss

>>4070872
Who the fuck are you, Shaggy?

>>4070877
Ok I lol'd a bit at that.

>>4070885
Someone should makes an Umineko turned Scooby Doo characters picture.

>>4070895
How about this?

>>4070901
I'd watch the hell out of that.

>>4070838
I was actually referring to the chalice that got passed around the meeting of loyalists.

>>4070914
Ohh, right.

>>4070901
thats pretty awesome, but I need more.

Battler as Freddie...
Beato as Daphne...
Erika as Velma...

...hmm, i really don't know how to end this.

>>4070943
Cat-Bern as Scooby, but I am not sure who would be Shaggy.

Sherlock, drinking offered liquids?
It never happened in any of the books, thats for sure.

I decided to try Umineko. Does this torrent contain chapters 1-5 or only 5 - Other (C76) _Umineko _no _Naku _Koro _ni _Chiru-Episode _5 _End _of _the _Golden _Witch. iso, http://tokyotosho.info/details.php?id=239393?

>>4071065
Only 5. Only chapters 1-4 go together, starting with 5 it's a separate game.

>>4071159
Thanks.

>>4069845
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>>4071031
Well, it WAS still sealed up...

If I became a movie director, would /jp/ (or ryukishi) let me make a live action umineko movie series?

I've considered becoming one to do just that.

>>4071245
Movie series would be awful, 1hr episode television series would be the only way to go.

And it would suck, because it's gotten far too mystical for the average viewer. Unless it went the route of Dexter and made television only story arcs.

>>4069847
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>>4071260
I always thought the way to go for an umineko tv series would be to cut down on the mysticism stuff, namely all the big "this is how the magical world works" type stuff, and concentrating more on the logic discussions.

>>4069848
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>>4070620
The sherlock holmes stories often broke knox's rules (although saying that is somewhat of an anachronism).

>>4069845
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>>4070716
> Most classic mystery novels are pretty easy if you sit around in a group talking about them. Had to read a few in some lit classes, and weren't allowed to read ahead.
Got a couple suggestions?