/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>606295604
Follow the DJT guide before asking how to learn Japanese tatsumoto.neocities.org

Make targeted sentence cards (TSCs) for maximum gains.
Read more. and listen!
IGNORE Animecards and Moeway spam.

こんにちは！

the daily japanese thread will continue now at >>>/int/djt

come post, have fun, and escape the spam!

a message from our tomodachi, ぶんこ and ジャマル
https://vocaroo.com/16KvfezLyR4Z

see you there!
よろしくお願いします

>>40580734
Tatsumoto is the best guide ever!

>>40580727
important info for beginners.

>>40580727
next time
use this img

>>40580727
>Ignore Tatsumoto
Tatsumoto is unironically the best Japanese language guide out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO_UNZ13_6E

>>40580753
>>40580739
>>40580738
>>40580734

True and based! Tatsumoto is the best thing to happen to the Japanese language learning community in decades

>>40580744
It's important that you use the correct katakana when typing to avoid embarrassing mistakes like this! The best resource to learn katakana is
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kana-in-two-days.html

>>40580744
>>40580829
＞デイ
LMFAO ANALCREAM doesn't know Japanese

what now?

>>40580860
Anki Drone Starter Pack, the most widely recommended deck for beginners.

https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/basic-vocabulary.html#anki-deck

Then start mining TSCs using Mpvacious

>>40580835
When will analspammer stop shitting up our threads with his spam? I thought he left /jp/

>>40580735
>escape the spam
the irony

10 of the 13 posts above are from you know who. do jannies even?

Japanese to English translators make an average of 70k a year! We're all going to escape NEETdom and enter the middle class!

>>40580949
>>40580895
Yes Analfag must be stopped!

>>40580954
I found this excellent place to network with other translators to find that job
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/join-our-community.html

>>40580954
Why would you want to escape NEETdom? I've spent the last painful 5 years ensuring I could enter and secure my NEETdom.

I just started my first serious attempt at learning JP. I have the hiragana memorized (mostly, and if you asked me to write them out, no chance). It’s late, so I don’t want to start on anything new, but I wanted to try and see if it could get through a page of a manga. The slightly different and way smaller font than I’m used to is rough. I imagine as I get more acclimated, it’ll feel more evident. Hopefully I don’t give up, good luck all.

>>40580999
That's not neetdom that's retirement.

>>40581016
i think you meant to post that here >>>/int/djt

>>40580875
baaaased

>>40580980
what's your MXID?

>>40580727
I'm new to yomichan and stuff, but I've been using anki for a while and have a huge custom deck of simple word -> definitions/some sentences but I wanna use yomichan's auto add thing in the same deck. Is it possible to just have the new yomichan added cards on top of my basic deck?

Also, the words "Kanjium Pitch Accent" show up on one of my cards, but not the accent lines on the hiragana (the graph does show up, but I don't like it desu).

>>40580727
Stop making threads so early. I know your bedtime was approaching but the old thread will still be there when you wake up, and if not, you'd survive a day without having your patreon links in the OP.

>>40580954
I'm too dumb to be a translator. That or just unwilling to be a shit one.

>>40580727
Don't follow the MoeWay guide because it's a scam run by a turkish tranny. Ignore his idiocy poor fuck is a mentally ill spammer trying to scam people with his site. If you truly wish to learn Japanese i would recommend you to read Tatsumoto's guide to learning Japanese so you will reach true fluency level.

Has the quality of these threads ever been lower than this guide faggotry that's been going on?

no, this is rock bottom. the entire thread is tatsu talking to himself, and it's not even one of he started.

>>40581570
Analcream has brought this upon us.

>>40581611
Tatsu doesn't use 4chan. Why do you think he would post here?

your replies are repetitive like anki reps. i can recognize every single one of them.

>i can recognize every single one of them
show me what you've recognized.

>>40581287
you can make yomichan add cards directly to your deck

みんな。immerそう
https://youtu.be/eeLN0P0x1d8

Memento is a FOSS, mpv-based video player for studying Japanese.

https://github.com/ripose-jp/Memento

Memento bros keeps on winning!>>40581937

true true!

>>40581948
only thing you are winning is the porn addicted doutei nerd loser who doesnt know japanese competition

this is djt. nobody knows japanese here.

>>40580727
Reminder that tatsuhomo is a shill who plagues these threads and samefags so badly that we have to put up warnings in the OP.

But we don't use animecards or learnjapanese. The best guide has always been on itazuraneko(the only site that doesn't beg for donations).

tatsumoto reminds me of those snake oil salesmen with always shilling his stolen sentence cards or whatever, except he's not charming or smart enough to manipulate people lol

>>40582062
Tatsumoto never plagued anything. It's the official DJT guide.

Is it possible to learn 2 langauges at once?

>>40580727

Tatsumoto's advice:
>just use the fucking language!
>use whatever learning method, just keep using the language doing things you like!
>i give you a few good anki decks for free, but they are optional

Animetards and themoeway's advice:
>use my anki deck
>watch dolly's videos because I say so
>subscribe to my patreon for more!
>join my Cringecord

If I use the export feature in anki will that export my progress as well as my deck? I'm migrating to a different computer in a few days.

>>40581843
Then what's the point of the special template deck in the animecards site? Is there some setting I need to change on my current deck?

>>40582372
animecards site is a scam made by a mentally ill spammer. you don't need that template to use yomichan.

>>40582435
goddamnit I don't care about your fucking namefag drama, give me an answer faggot

>>40582083
kek

What's the best extension for reading raw manga on tachiyomi?

When is it appropriate to use onegaishimasu and what does it really mean?

>>40583199
it means お願いする

>>40583211
Wow, thanks anon, it sucks that I already knew that, but thanks for trying anyway.

>>40583222
lol ngmi

This is not the beginner thread
Stop asking n∞ questions

time for morning anki

戯言　－　たわごと
戯れ言　－　ざれごと
戯れ　－　たわむれ
hate this shit

this is the beginner thread, ask whatever you want

>>40581936
nice
>>40581937
also nice
>>40581948
true
>>40582062
also true
>>40583199
theres no answer anon, what does anything mean? meaning is an agreed upon collective delusion. you need to use your own intuition and cognizance in order to acquire that answer, yourself, it can not be given to you
generally its used when making a request, but not always and theres different levels of request politeness and relationships to think about, translators like saying it means please but that's not all it means.
anon is right that it means お願いする
an6way heres interesting reading on the subject https://docoic.com/55123

yosh its tako tuesday!!!

>>40583686
why does my piss turn red?

where the fuck are the good nukige at? it has been months since the last good one (tomefure 2)

>>40583953
rhabdomyolysis, see a doctor NOW

>>40583968
https://vndb.org/v36175

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogvoCl9qJ2k

>>40584015
yoooooooo

>>40583979
I'm sorry I don't speak german

今日の神曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfDGSWx2KdY

>>40584015
nice
god i love 羊

hmmmm maybe i should pick up rust in japanese anyone played it?

>>40584096
>羊
hitsujisaru ???

Hey weebs, what is the general jist of this song?
https://youtu.be/P3nUkm5i8F8
I know not your personal army and all that jazz but I just don't know how to explain my infatuation with the song. I've listened to it so much but I'm simply not the skilled in the nihongos to actually understand any of it. The music video itself captivates me I guess. I have no expectations that anyone might look into this but if they do, you will have given an anon context for something they have spent probable days of their with.

>>40583999
>Heroine with Big Breasts

>>40584151
heres the lyrics https://qrics.com/japanese/%E6%83%91%E6%98%9F%E3%82%A2%E3%83%96%E3%83%8E%E3%83%BC%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AB-LET-IT-DIE-%E6%99%82%E3%82%92%E3%81%8B%E3%81%91%E3%82%8B%E6%AE%BA%E3%81%97%E5%B1%8B-3142
really nice song, added thanks
as to what it means? its music, it means whatever you want it to mean, you can mine and translate the lyrics if you want a machine interpretation
really liking this girl, thanks for posting the song

>>40584232
No, thank you for helping me. I greatly appreciate this. I will set aside some time to mine this.

tf when you rush to shit and the first log is almost out as soon as you sit down

>>40584307
no worries really like it

>>40584096
as for me its error
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIbTGUvNGWk

>>40583979
I doubt anyone here works out enough to get rhabdo
anyways, wew this thread is trash

i had it once, do not recommend

>>40580714
holy nice

>>40584463
that is why im learning japanese

want boing boing jk gf bros...

yoooo shes live!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kabDmSQTebM

Yeah, this is why Im learning Japanese.

This is why I'm learning Japanese

as for me

>>40582083
analspam hands wrote this post

this is why im learning japanese

this is why im learning japanese

im learning japanese because it makes me dokidoki when 熟女s say im 真っ白

as for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy5vwhYkjZg

>>40582149
Of course especially if both of those languages have the same parent language i.e. latin based etc.
If they are too similar it can get confusing though

>>40585450
love that song
>>40582149
無理
絶対無理

as for me
it's linnies

for the ultimate proof the advanced thread is on int don't miss autistic imbeciles arguing with a nip that the nip is wrong
advanced thread bros, its time to go home with all your favorite threadcelebs

>>40585568
just cuz someone has japanese flag doesn't mean they're a nip

>>40585568
saw that, reminded me of 4king arguing with a guy that lives in japan about the japaneses' guy cost of living

glad 4king found a new home

>>40585568
don't care keep it in your beginner thread

>>40585518
yabeeeee

>>40585568
don't care keep it in the advanced thread

Is there a Japanese travel app where I can enter a destination and origin then it calculates the best route for me with public transport?
All I can find are apps for individual things like trains or buses

>>40585915
google maps?

>>40585928
I guess it will do.
In my shithole of a country we have an app that gives you options for every form of public transport combined though, its so much more clear

>>40585915
there are actual natives you can ask this question over at >>>/int/djt

>>40585969
ye native english teachers lol

>>40585915
check the beginner thread in /int/ !! we all are にほんぎらい here

Small question. I want to use Yukkuri Movie Maker 3, however it is in Japanese and I'd like to simply just modify the program and change the menu's text options to English for personal use and convince through file editing and a dictionary. How would I go about doing this, what files or file would I need to edit? Thank you very much if someone helps.

>>40585996

>>40585915
https://www.jrailpass.com/hyperdia
thats the app everyone uses, if you are in any city itll work

>>40586022
I'm sorry, is this the wrong place to ask? I like those hand-drawn type videos like Horned Owl and Bat by Kawabug and I want to try my hand at making something similar. I apologize if this is the wrong place and I'm intruding.

>>40585915
https://www.navitime.co.jp/
https://www.jorudan.co.jp/
both of these are great if hyperdia doesn't work for w/e reason

>>40586025
yeah I know that one but it doesnt allow you to enter addresses only stations, and its exclusively for trains.
>>40585990
>>40585969
>>40586045
>>40586025
thanks senpais

>>40585996
would help you but i dont know computer stuff

https://streamable.com/9ylcuf
HLHYBLJAHMDYU?

>>40586056
Oh, well thank you either way. I hope your journey to learning Japanese goes well.

>>40586053
no worries, jorudan is good but costs money, try the other one first, if neither work, theres google maps but those 2 should do and have bus stops and schedules on top of trains

sell me on learning radicals
please

>>40586152
it helps a lot with remembering definition of words quickly or being able to make good guesses, plus its not difficult and kind of interesting.

only learn the important and common ones though, and make sure you learn the true definitions. Meme definitions like wakani always fail at some point and then you realise just how retarded their definitions are

>>40586152
i won't because i believe it's a waste of time since you'll naturally pick them up as you acquire vocab
if you want to go full autismo and learn all their names and shit you can always do that once you actually know japanese
sure it *can* help you in discerning new kanji more quickly but the question is whether the time and effort spent learning radicals upfront is really worth the benefit here and i just don't see it

>>40586152
>>40586255
im with this guy, the important ones youll learn naturally and as time goes even kanji with minute differences will seem obvious
there's imho no point trying to bruteforce them, especially in english

thx whoever posted the milf sailor Moon cosplay ntr yesterday just gooned

my pleasure

yh thanks bro

yes learn radicals by their japanese names so that you understand your japanese wife when she critiques your penmanship and teaches you kanji

>>40585996
ＹＭＭをつかうとは

なにするの

me meeting my japanese wife and her best friend

>>40586700
待ち伏せ鉢合わせ

pog

me meating my japanese wife and her best friend

>>40586873
y...yabeeeeeee...!

How do I escape the trap of translating sentences in my head? I have a compulsion to make sure I understand what I'm reading but for some reason the only way I can do that is by understanding it in English

>>40580954
Sad that by the time most of us learn Japanese that will probably be lower middle class if that
>>40582984
I can't check because my cell is roaming rn but I'm pretty sure I've used rawkuma before. It's alright, but you can probably just download raws from nyaa. If it's a bunch of images, just put them in a zip file and change the extension to .cbz and tachiyomi should read it fine
>>40585996
You might just be out of luck. As far as I could guess those are probably baked into the exe itself. There might be some sort of text file that it's using to grab text from but I kind of doubt that

>>40586917
switch to j-j definitions

>>40586917
have you watched fullmetal alchemist? when you translate in your head, you're doing a complete transmutation. be like scar and just stop when you've done the important decomposition part.

>>40585996
you would probably need to search in the exe binary for the text you want to change with the programs such as ghidra or IDA Pro.

>>40586965
人は何かの犠牲なしに何も得ることは出来ない。
何かを得るためには同等の代価が必要になる。
それが錬金術における等価交換の原則だ。
その頃僕らは、それが世界の真実だと信じていた。
>>40586917
do j j definitions also realize why it is you translate in your head, it is because you don't understand the japanese, if you did, you wouldn't go further.
it really sucks at first but you have to accept the japanese as the truth of this world. you may think about it in pictures, colors, flavours, textures, or whatever it is you use to conceptualize things, but NOT ENGLISH WORDS.
maybe thisll help you, when listening to music or watching stuff, i used to visualize the way things were written (kana/kanji/we), in my head, then came images, now for most words its nothing
mind you i haven't made it but neither do i translate in my head and i feel like i understand the 4 or 5 hours of unsubbed stuff i listen to a day

>>40586930
I'll try it out, any dictionary recs?
>>40587025
Good point that I should start tying Japanese words to concepts instead of the English words that represent concepts, at least if I understood you right
>>40586965
Lel, noted and thx for the analogy

>>40585996
>>40586917
To follow up a little bit though,
If you're experienced in programming at all and have way too much free time on your hands, you could in theory disassemble the exe into bytecode and search for the snippets that correspond to the text you want to change, change those, then recompile it. The issue with that is determining if it's in little or big endian, properly disassembling it, and determining how the japanese text was represented (unicode or something else, probably) so that you can appropriately replace these portions with text that works
This might also be relevant, if you can figure out what language it was written in you might be able to decompile it in a workable manner:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/273145/is-it-possible-to-decompile-a-windows-exe-or-at-least-view-the-assembly
>>40587018
My post was late because I had no signal but also yeah what this guy said lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-xYL97pNxY

>>40587130
nta but i like https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp
it uses short, clear definitions, and i ended preferring it to the others i tried
also, you are right about associating nip words with japanese, also part of the point is that having a blank mind is hard, so by having something that is not english in it, you prevent it lingering there if that makes sense (ie, not thinking about a pink elefant is hard, thinking about something else and leaving no room for the elefant, is easy)

>>40580727
Is there a repository for children books for like total beginners (even brain damaged level would help)

>>40587218
tadoku and hukumusme have some children stories

seconding hukumusume

>>40587230
tyvm anon time to get some reps in

why is it that japanese almost never use 5.1 surround, but their dubs often will?

>>40587290
japanese rooms are often tiny and using 5.1 would get them kicked out cause the soundproofing is also terrible

>>40587208
Thank you very much

>miss anki for 1 (ONE) day
JUST

>>40587399
delete deck and start over

>>40586152
if youre struggling to remember or differentiate kanji it can help

>>40587399
you can do it

>>40587399
Bro, those are some baby numbers. You're never going to learn Japanese like that.

>>40587444
Trips of truth but I've also only started out a week or two ago.

>>40587452
That makes it even worse. You're still learning the easy words.

>>40587418
wanna do her bros...
>>40587452
>>40587399
protip: external streaks are meaningless, set your clock to whatever you want and save it if its important to you, the only streak that matters is in your heart
you are gonna make it bro!

What did she mean by this?

think its a type of dog

>>40587750
it just means female dog

I REALIZE

>>40587783
kekked

>>40587452
You should be doing 25 new words a day minimum

>>40588022
I have a job.

>>40588028
correct, it's called anki

>>40588034
No no, I meant a real one.

>>40588028
So do I faggot. I can tell you from experience 25 words a day is like a 45 minute daily commitment. If you don't have at least 45 minutes a day to commit to anki on top of immersion and are already missing days you're never gonna make it. May as well go to reddit.

>>40588060
Just curious, how many hours of commute do you have in a day?

>>40588028
don't worry too much about it, its a lot, lot harder at the start, in a few months all the stuff that seems hard now will seem natural and youll be picking up so many words naturally that making cards for every word or kanji will be a hassle, there really are bo words or kanji harder than your first ones

>>40588034
lol (true)

>>40588080
Do you want to learn Japanese, or do you just want to bitch, whine, and make excuses?

>>40588292
I can do both at the same time.

>>40588303
my man

鏖君, even tho you are a dick at times i appreciate posts like this guy

>>40588022
>>40588060
>>40588292
Bruh you need to relax lmao you dont know anything about this guys life

>>40588022
retard

>>40588028
Still not gonna get anywhere learning 10 words a day, especially not if you're not doing it every day. Japanese isn't something you can learn spending 15 minutes a day on. Are you reading/immersing? I usually get my anki done during my lunch and other breaks at work and can just come home and immerse more or less. Although at your stage I'd probably recommend more reps over immersion for a couple weeks. Gotta know a couple hundred words before you can really start meaningfully reading

>>40588514
Hes learning 20 a day and he just missed one day lmao

>>40588514
I'm doing 20 a day on all the days I can do it, this was my first skip in a week or so. Haven't gotten into reading, I'm planning to get the Japanese Mushoku Tensei LNs and then start a mining deck out of that after doing a couple more weeks like you said. I've also still not gotten through Tae Kim's grammar guide. Should really prioritize that during commute over youtube videos.

milestone

>>40588563
Impressive, very nice.

>>40588529
>>40588531
My mistake then, I interpreted the 20 as "10x2" from missing a day. 20 words a day is respectable.

>>40588563
holy nice time to celebrate

>>40588563
yoshi

>>40580954
No one here is going to get to a level where they can translate. Especially not by sitting around masturbating to VN's once or twice a week.

>>40588578
Anki doesn't add more new words if you miss a day...

>>40588574
>>40588582
>>40588595
thanks bros

>gooning to vns when jav and manga exist
bruh

>>40587399
lol I haven't done mine in a little bit

>>40588705
I wouldn't know

>>40588864
But anon, vns are nice too!

>>40589101

Another day another chapter. 8 words mined.

>>40587828
ちゃんとたってるなら

うえした

くっついたほうがよくないですか

やはりうえのほうが

いいかもしれない

i can't read this japanese shit guys. please post in english.

頑張ってあのん

けつのあなひくひくしてみせて

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIdFeby__VQ
今日の曲

started reading my first novel and got my ass eaten wtf? i thought i was close to making it?

>>40589488
w..wat.. w..which novel...? a..asking for a friend..

really hard to concentrate when that happens

>>40589488
same except i have trigger finger in my left middle finger and it annoys me

Hey fellers, am a little confused by the ni particle in this situation.
あなたの笑う頃に
Sticking it into google translate gives me "when you laugh," and I know the umineko title has a similar translation. Is this accurate, and can you really stick ni at the end of a clause to mean when? Thanks.

>>40589577
yeah bro
t. n6

>>40589551
lol

do i man up and use genki or is imabi fine?

>>40589820
structural functional japanese

>genki imabi
they are on the opposite ends of the autism spectrum from one another.

imabi is retarded dog shit.

>>40589874
>>40589870
then what

しちがつーはつか

がっこうにごせんぞうわすれてきた

bitch accent. それ以上です。

>>40589904
it wasn't a disendorsement. learning grammar really depends what works for you. most people hate learning grammar, so tae kim is the most recommended because of how easily digestible it is.

>>40589904
everything is on library genesis and or YouTube and the rest of the net anon, if you want a resource, i will hand it to you, if i can find it (im good at finding things)
here is the answer you need though:
everyone in 4chan is to some degree, retarded. this is a fountain of information, try all things and see what works for you.
do not do things blindly that someone says or recommends
that said, cure dolly but really everything is about as useful as reading about driving or playing an instrument, although its not useless, for things to sink in you need to drive a fair bit.
here anon, learn grammar by immersion
https://doujinmura.com/%E8%8C%9C%E3%83%8F%E6%91%98%E3%83%9E%E3%83%AC-%E6%9F%93%E3%83%A1%E3%83%A9%E3%83%AC%E3%83%AB-%E5%BC%90%E3%80%90%E7%9C%9F%E7%8F%A0%E8%B2%9D%E6%AD%A6%E7%94%B0%E5%BC%98%E5%85%89%E3%80%91%E3%82%AA/
reach out and grasp the answers you seek yourself anon!

>>40590130
tldr you dont know jack shit, got it 気に流れ

>>40590130
thanks anon great post

>>40590142
lmao

>>40590130
y..yabeeeeeee...

>>40588860
this bitch has two left ashi lol

>>40590219
yup, happens all the time these days
that's why you always should ask girls to show you their feet when you meet them to make sure they aren't freaky mutants

>>40590219
w

>>40590240
last time i asked a girl to show me her feet she told me to sub to her onlyfans
remember to gatekeep your interests lads

>>40590219
AAAHHHH

おにいちゃん

おにいちゃんは

どうしておにいちゃん？

yooooo
this site and this dudes games are all gold, check them out if you are looking for something to immerse, its all free rpgs
https://www.freem.ne.jp/brand/10667
theyre really really good

im new here
i need your help djt
best deck to learn kana?

oh gee i wonder who will pen the reply and what will be recommended. do jannies even?

>>40590503
don't use anki for that
the quickest way to get kana is to hunt down a fellow beginner learner and eat their heart

>>40590503
I'd recommend looking at Tofugu's ultimate guide for hiragana and katakana. The mnemonics will help you memorize them. I personally learned the old fashioned way and wrote them over and over though.

>>40590306
ちんちん付いてるからだよ〜ん

>>40590503
Go to realkana website
Quick and easy

Question about early Genki.

Is the structure X は Y です specifically applicable to statements or sentences in general?

So I’m at the introduction of other particles in lesson 3 and the formula is now like Direct Object を Verb, so that doesn’t really follow the same thing

Well this thread was a disappointment

>>40590503
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/learn-hiragana/
https://kana-quiz.tofugu.com/

>>40590535
>Tofugu's
I found the anki version + audio.
https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/2141155567
thanks anon!
>>40590593
ty

another spam prompt lol

はいおにいちゃん

正方形のおかねは

なんでないんですか

>>40590616
i dont see you making good posts

>started reading recently
>spend a few hours reading at a snails pace
>starting to enjoy the story a lot
>finish studying and spend my free time reading the rest of the content in english
>dont feel like rereading it in Japanese
i'm disabled i need to find things that haven't been translated so my monkey brain cant do this to me

>>40590696
What medium are you interested in?

>>40590622
np good luck anon

>>40590696
what's interesting is that the translation wasn't so bad that you'd rather keep slowly reading in jp

>>40590696
>>40590450
play through those theres no engkish version and most are 5 to 20 minutes tops

>>40590706
I've only been doing manga so far. I think I'm going to look for some LNs/VNs that interest me though soon.

>>40590717
the fact that I can play these in a browser and be lazy is perfect. thanks anon

>>40590713
the only really awful ones that come to my mind are hawks translation of berserk. really old scanlations with bad translations are charming in their own way though

やきめしチャーハン問題がとけてしまった

もんだいがないならべつにいいんだけど

https://twitter.com/Calpas_oishiiii/status/1549409302074490880

>>40591027
https://twitter.com/Calpas_oishiiii/status/1545288640901050369

どっからがやきめしで

どっからがチャーハンなの

にほんてきにはすごいきょうみがある

>>40590706
medium breasts

>>40590503
We usually recommend the official DJT guide for learning kana.
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kana-in-two-days.html
This is also the fastest and most efficient way to learn kana ever invented. Don't fall for other sites you've been linked, they use nonfree JavaScript and track you with ads

how do you guys keep up with this shit
literally feels like all i do is study these days

>>40580727
tatsu is so mentally ill hes spamming threads in /trash/

>>40591302
mind, body, soul
keep studying, but take care of the other two too

>>40591302
because eventually you'll reach the point where "studying" is just looking up the occasional word in danganronpa or something while you enjoy and read it. i prob read 3-4 hours a day minimum just because manga and games are fun

>>40591359
>start amagami
>the first 5 sentences of the game have me look up every 3rd word
できない

>>40591318
Tatsumoto doesn't even post on 4chan, analcretin.

>>40591302
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/faq.html#im-not-motivated-and-dont-enjoy-learning-japanese-is-it-still-worth-my-time

>>40582477
>give me the answer
Read Tatsumoto's guide to learning Japanese.

>>40591373
i'm motivated and enjoy learning and don't feel like it's a waste of time but i am burning resources pursuing this and it does make me anxious

>>40591369
dude there was a time like 10 months or so ago where it made my entire day that i could read
私はアンンです in tango n5, and now im comfortably reading danganronpa with only minor lookups. my listening is stitll pretty bad, precure and card captor sakura no subs are easy but kamen rider revice is a bit tricky at times for me. its just time in time out

>>40589046
All "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus, everyday words used commonly in Japan.
Download Ankidrone Starter Pack https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/basic-vocabulary.html

>>40591383
Do you enjoy anime? If so just watch anime in Japanese and use yomichan+mpvacious to look up words. It is not something you can burn out of.

>>40591383
You would be burning less time if you used a more efficient card format like TSCs

>>40591392
>Tango
garbage deck. uses sentence cards instead of TSCs

>>40591408
for vocab i already have randomized sentences that are 1T or 1T+1 based off terms i have already studied
my study flow is already pretty good, but hundreds of cards a day still eats time, then the need to immerse myself and mine some more

>>40590612
>genji
trash book. tatsu says to read all about particles
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-grammar.html#grammar-guides

>>40591408
Based. If I didn't switch to TSCs earlier this year, I wouldn't be fluent by now.

>>40591423
I double this.

>>40591421
Just make sure you are following the official DJT guide for anki setup

>>40591421
which can be found here
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/how-to-review.html

tatsugod

newcomers don't forget to read the op post

>>40585518
She really have titties

love qt 受付嬢

きょうのとにかくわからないにほんご

>カス

これはなんなんでしょう

ちゅうに？ことばなんでしょうか？

わるくちなんですけど

ふるいことばで

>コー

というのもあるけどいまはカスがおおいきがする

sigh

ぜったいにうれないアニメキャラ

>キュ〇カス

ぜったいにくさいひと

>ヤ〇カス

ぜったいにやばいひと

>〇ーコー

どうつかいわけてるのかわかんない

なぐりあいになるから

つかったらだめよ

>>40591556
the post below the op post.

I've done it!

>>40591392
yoooooo!
>>40591935
yoshi!

Please recommend me stuff to read.
My level is around "retarded japanese kid" tier.

I read the VN Hanahira! and the manga 黒 in the past.

us just learning japanese like bros
>>40592032
hukumusume, orenoerohon, doujinmura, https://www.freem.ne.jp/brand/10667 are all great
yurukill just came out if into vns
stray in japanese for a japanese cat simulator

そうめん

そうめんたべたことありますか？

I'm not a pedo...
It's just that I know a lot of dirty words in Japanese and loli protags use simple language so its easy to understand those...

shes making it

>>40592480
>>40592492
nice

fuck now I remember why I stopped trying to play japanese games back then
i'm playing a game on the DS and the kanji is so fucking small i have no idea how to decipher it even from context

okay I figured out it was 繋
fuck my fucking life

acquired 繋

I know this is nothing compared to what most people here can read, but having just started about a week ago, I was able to read a sentence in the wild for the first time without it being completely in hiragana and katakana and it made me recall some super basic grammar points without needing to refer back to a grammar guide. It was just a simple YouTube comment, but it was still nice to be able to do that. Below is the sentence. Despite how easy it probably is, I feel good being able to read it and understand it.
これはもっと伸びるべき

What are the actual differences between themoeway and tatsumoto? They seem fairly similar to me.

>>40592690
see >>40582226

>>40592690
moeway is a patreon scam, tatsumoto is a japanese learning guide.

>>40592675
based gmi

what do the dots next to each character imply? some kind of punctuation or emphasis to how it's being said?

>>40592788
I'm guessing it implies he's speaking like this
いち　ねん　で　いち　ばん　ひょう　こう　が　たか　い
like he's lecturing or something

Whenever I try to watch anime or read I end up quitting after like 15 minutes because it's such a pain in the ass to look up every single word I come across and trying to figure out what the fuck the sentence is supposed to mean, especially since sometimes I think it doesn't pick it up right and ends up giving me something nonsensical, and other times it detects the correct word but I'm not sure if it's right because it's odd.
Should I just wait until I know some more grammar and have a basic vocabulary before bothering? I've only been studying for two weeks and I feel like the only thing I get out of trying to consume media is frustration.

>>40592788
try asking on >>>/int/djt

(╯︵╰,)

>>40592788
emphasis yes, like underlining or italics

>>40593117
do the core2.3k then start mining animecards, 2 weeks is basically impossible to start reading

>>40592032
gakkougurashi, any kirara comic

>>40593331
>analtard is still spamming his patreon deck

i thought you left the thread?

>>40593117
All "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus, everyday words used commonly in Japan.
Download Ankidrone Starter Pack https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/basic-vocabulary.html

reps done, 15 new words. high new word count on stats is because I couldn't finish my reps for a bunch of days

>>40593374
I'm using the moeway tango n5 deck, which covers basically the same material as far as I know, just in a different way. I'm probably going to switch to the ankidrone decks after I'm done with it though because I really like the targeted sentence card approach they use, it's just that I'm deep enough into this one that I don't want to restart.

>>40593397
I hope you are using TSCs to maximize fluency gains

https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/discussing-various-card-templates.html#targeted-sentence-cards-or-mpvacious-cards

What's a LN or VN with a lot of katakana in it? I keep on forgetting katakana so I need to read and mine it more.

please help djt :(

>>40593401
The most important part about learning Japanese as a whole, no matter what deck you are going through, is using TSCs. Don't underestimate the significance of card templates.

>>40593401
hopeless

>>40593422
not sure in particular but look for things with robots or aliens

>>40593422
Most visual novels should be avoided since they are proprietary.

>>40593422
We usually recommend the official DJT guide for learning katakana.
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-kana-in-two-days.html
This is also the fastest and most efficient way to learn kana ever invented. You shouldn't be reading VNs as they are proprietary and dangerous.

>>40593331
>core2.3k
You literally fell for the analspammer meme.

>>40593452
>>40593445
wish mods would add this site to the spam filter

>>40593468
mods should add the following sites to the spam filter
animecards.site
learnjapanese.moe
anacreondjt.gitlab.io
(don't click on them, they contain malware)

Why are these threads so schizophrenic?

>>40593498
Almost every thread on every board seems schizo to me these days.

>>40593506
Most aren't anywhere near as bad as this.

>>40593517
Bacause Analcream hijacked the OP, look at this mess >>40580727

>>40593498
mods choose to do nothing about tatsucuckold

>>40593117
I've been at this for 3 or 4 months now and I'm retarded, but yeah I was in the position as you. You're not confident with what words mean so you get paranoid doubts over whether jisho/yomichan is giving you the right words or not. DeepL helps, but having a grasp of basic vocab and grammar does give you a sense of whether lookup tools are right or not.

The earlier you start reading the better, tho

>>40593539
analcringe, you should be on /int/

>>40593598
he hasn't posted since march so it's not him

>>40593573
Sounds like you need the Anki Drone Starter Pack

>>40593608
He's ruining the /int/ thread right now. If you go there, you can see it in real time.

>>40593649
nope don't see it

has anyone ever gone through the trouble of compiling vocabulary lists for manga to study beforehand because i am TIRED of looking up kanji when i'm trying to immerse myself in a story

>>40593770
I know that exists for Yotsubato but I'm not sure about anything else

>>40593770
Yes. You need to use this https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/basic-vocabulary.html
This should cover almost everything in your manga.

>>40593836
>almost everything
nigger i just told you i am tired of looking up kanji

>>40593844
According to Tatsumoto:
>Not all words are created equal. In Japanese, the most frequently used 1,000 words comprise around 75% of all written language. After memorizing the most frequently used 1,000 or 2,000 words learning vocabulary from immersion becomes easier. When reading you'll be able to recognize the majority of words in a given sentence.
Tatsumoto is near native level so I'd trust what he says and use the deck

>>40593844
>>40593836
He's right about doing ankidrone. Learn kanji with the words. When you finish it, you will know thousands of kanji words.
Don't learn just kanji, they don't mean anything.

>>40593864
>majority
look man i just want to read a full volume of manga without opening up jisho once, not at 75%, or at 98% comprehension, completely

just say no if you don't know a vocab list for any manga please

>>40593890
If you just don't want to look up kanji, here is how to use OCR so you can use a hover dictionary while reading https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/mining-from-manga.html

Guys, I'm too addicted to learning Japanese and my life is falling apart. Please give me some reasons to quit learning.

>>40593964
Thank you

>>40593666
kys analfag, get cancer. you have killed djt.

jesus fucking christ the tats spam in this thread is insane. his rent must be due

>>40593422
bump, still need help with this

Is Japan ever going to open up or are they just gonna a continue pretending COVID is dangerous or even real forever? Because at this point I'm thinking they will just keep pretending forever until the next super scary deadly global pandemic hits.

>>40594103
tatsu doesn't post on 4chan anymore. he left us last year... this must be some crazy fan lmao

>>40594157
true true. could be any of tatsugod's many fans

>>40594157
there's 2 of them posting from shitholes based on their int flags

miss bunbro

>>40594124
what do they gain by opening up?

>>40594323
smelly gaijin white pig english teachers

>>40594252
he's in the int japanese thread and pops into the int djt thread to tell everyone that they're not going to make it
he goes in phases, he did the same thing last year after getting doxxed

>>40594103
I'm almost convinced it's some elaborate falseflag at this point

>>40594252
im still here

>>40594333
welp 1000 years of isolation incoming then
>>40594346
a while ago he did say he stopped looking for a job because he made enough from whatever he is doing here, so he definitely relies on it, probably has something other than the patreon that makes him money on his website getting views

>>40594323
About 400 billion in tourism money? You're joking right?

>>40594378
Even if he is, the cultish posts in these threads probably do more to turn people away from his site than direct traffic towards it.

>>40594373
ああああ！
この化け物。。。
私の目が痛い。。。

>>40594378
if my livelihood depended on making myself look like a fool in order to appeal to the lowest common denominator I'd kill myself

>>40594401
>1.1 gdp
they don't care, that's worth it to appease their old population that value perceived stability and "health"
not having filthy waito piggu gaijin coming into their country and coughing on them is an excellent way to get votes from old people

fuck i'm blind meant 0.7% gdp

>>40594378
>he stopped looking for a job because he made enough from whatever he is doing here,
and you believed him?

>>40594530
well he obviously isn't working if he can spend this much time spamming, so yeah it checks out

>>40594464
That's true, but they will need that money at some point. They "opened" up to some tourism last month but it is guided tours and other boring shit like that.

Also in 2019 it was 7.5% of their GDP, that is a huge amount. I'm not sure what numbers you got but look again.

>>40594554
he's mentally ill, delusional, and lies as if he's breathing
he definitely lives off his parents/autism bucks

>>40594555
sounds like a good compromise for them
they get some money and the filthy waito piggu nigger cattle get herded around where they can't cough on respectable nihonjin on north korean-esque tours, there's no longer any point in opening up
great success!

>>40594554
on the contrary, he must be very busy, otherwise he'd post here
but he doesn't even visit this thread

>>40594530
>>40594378
there's no evidence he actually said that

YAB3!!!!!
https://twitter.com/aliceholic13/status/1549748462308282368

atsusugi

what's the left most Chinese character

How do you look up words if you're watching anime without subs?

>>40595074
type them into a yomichan window

>>40595073
攻速（攻撃速度）

>>40595215
or maybe 攻略速度

why does anki say i have a bunch of cards due 35 days ago but there's no way i can do them and they have been there for quite a while

>>40595274
oh they were filtered for some reason never mind

https://youtu.be/EAT5NliRoR4

>>40595074
ears

yooooo todays koyoku!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1cKh7SAl6o

>>40595074
jp subs are a pain, and you need something softsubbed anyway to use retimer, so dl the eng subbed anime and watch with subtitles hidden. if you hear a word you don't understand, but can transcribe it, then write it down and look it up. if you can't transcribe it, peek at the english subs and back into the word on jisho. if the english subs are fucked and you really want the word that badly, mark the timestamp and come back to it after you've found jp subs for the episode. or clip the line and ask someone better than you.

>>40592690
All DJT related guides have basically the same general structure
>1. learn hiragana and katakana
>2. use anki to acquire some basic vocabulary and use grammar guides to acquire a basic understanding of grammar
>3. consume a bunch of japanese media, look up words you don't understand make anki cards out of them (mining)
>4. repeat step 3 until fluency
The main difference is in the resources they offer, which is where I think tatsumoto comes out on top. He's also more tech literate, and while that does lead to some FLOSS autism it also means he has better guides on setting shit up and he recommends more software in general.

>>40595725
lol

>>40595725
nice try txtsumoto

i've already studied 1k vocabs.
now i also picked up tae kims's grammar guide, but I don't really understand the stuff he is talking about. Is there a better/easier grammar guide?

>>40595761
drown in piss, analcringe

>>40595787
yeah if you're too retarded for tae kim just pick up genki

hello friends i am new learner of wondering regarding the guides
many good advice but it seems the tatsumoto wins??
yes yes truly he must be the winner i will be of using the chat room matrix as well inshallah

>>40595787
Choo Choo SEnsei
https://youtu.be/pSvH9vH60Ig

>>40595787
Tatsu says to read all about particles.
https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/learning-grammar.html#grammar-guides

>>40592728
want og to mlem on me bros...
>>40592112
nice site saved
>>40592463
yum
>>40592492
yosh
>>40592675
grats!
>>40592908
saved! konkonsugiru!
>>40593165
q_q
>>40593331
love kiwawa good post
>>40593397
yosh
>>40593573
true
>>40594112
try jrpgs off the top of my head dragon quest is full of katakana
>>40594769
yabeeeeeee sugiruuuuu!
>>40595254
sauce!
>>40595377
kek
>>40595620
nice koyoku!

yoshi! today too lets do our best!

>>40595787
yup this anon needs cure dolly
hop on the grammar train bro

pay no attention to cure dolly spam >>40595813, he's a patreon beggar. want to learn japanese? read the tatsumoto guide for god's sake.

jannies please this is ridiculous

>>40595819
outputted earlier
gonna read now but だnめ its hot

>>40595825
dolly will kill all japanese in him

>>40595830
try the feedback link at the bottom of the page anon, theyre cool but not omniscient

>>40595826

>>40595860
卑怯だなぁ、捏造しちゃ

yoooo immersion desuwaaaa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OadmFKZgTPo

>>40595904
after she did that Ads I stop watching her

>>40595904
wow an eslut playing a game
im so compelled
maybe if i pretend shes my girlfriend the pain will get a little better

>>40595620
also a nice koyoku (less nice tho)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUgBubOTBwA

>>40595904
yooooo nice love that game
>>40595923
yoo we got a really nice bed from it!

>>40594346
im thinking its analcuck spamming to drive traffic to int, notice how theres no tatsugod spam there, but there are 10 analcuck posts back to back
he also hijacked two ops in a row with cringe trash instead of the usual lovely bijin op pics
one things for certain, tatsugod was right about analcuck
(that said, mine your own cards and give money to noone, especially the mentally ill spammers)
hope tatsugod finds him one day and thoroughly instructs him on proper japanese learning protocols inch by inch

me and og

>>40591392
look i know it's cringe and all and not indicative of knowledge
but around how many words did it take for you to reach the point where you're not looking up words all the time and able to comfortably consume things like danganronpa, i'm around 3.7k words in and i'm constantly looking up words

>>40593981
Get fit
Create a family
Learn a more useful/generative skill

if i married a japanese woman and got divorced i would probably have to quit japanese

>>40596442
nta but it doesn't work like that, the more you immerse and try to think about/in japanese, the easier it is
don't get frustrated, nor count the words till fluent, it doesn't work like that and itll just blackpill you
>>40593981
might as well make it and pick up the pieces later, you already sacrificed this much, might as well get something for it

>>40596200
God shut the fuck up

>>40596513
do you quit english every time you break up with a gf?
>>40595904
yoooo theres little juice boxes but coffee

>>40596534
why do you think i started learning bro

>>40596515
he needs to be blackpilled to learn
>>40596442
14k words
if youre not working hard you are wasting your time and may as well quit