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4053978 No.4053978 [Reply] [Original]

What if Keine created Gensokyo by creating its history?

>> No.4053984

More like: What if Yukari forced Keine to create a history that favors her?

>> No.4053981

>furfold

>> No.4053985

Then nothing of consequence, really.

>> No.4053989
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What if the Hieda family passed down a history that denied the existence of Gensokyo?

>> No.4053992

If Keine erased the history of her becoming a hakutaku would she lose her powers?

>> No.4054003

Why does Keine like humans so much?

>> No.4054004

Shit like this is why Kaguya keeps anyone from changing the past.

>> No.4054008

History doesn't work that way guys.

>> No.4054013

>>4054008
Someone hasn't even played IN. It does work that way.

>> No.4054020

Can Mokou drown? If so, what happens if you tie a rock to her and drop her into the bottom of a river?

>> No.4054030

>>4054013
>>4054008
Discussions about Keine's power never led to anything.

>> No.4054037

>>4054020

Remember: the Hourai Elixir can operate by Reincarnation, not just Rejuvenation or Resurrection. A corpse is left behind and she pops up elsewhere, fully formed.

>> No.4054040

>>4054020

But her corpse is at the bottom of the river. Unless there are piles of old corpses lying around, in which case we tied down all of those to the riverbed too.

>> No.4054043

>>4054020
>>4054037

Oh, she uses ancient ninja tricks to escape the ropes (1200 years old = lots of ancient tricks) and SHE SETS YOU FIRE.

Or she sets the rope and rock on fire.

Water can burn, and she has "manipulation of fire"...

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>>4054043
Sure. And this is Cirno's MinusK.

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4054068

Someone please explain why Shikieiki is pissed at Youmu in Youmu's story mode in PoFV. I'm confused by it.

>> No.4054077

>>4054065

Who would immediately be defused by Mokou.

Manipulation of fire and manipulation of warm air are very different. Most people confuse Cirno's power to be 'cold', but it's actually 'chill' (or cold air).

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>>4054068
Youmu is a being of the Netherworld she should not be visiting normal places so much or something bad will happen!

>> No.4054081

>>4054043
>Water can burn
Water can't burn. Water is a result of oxidation, meaning it already burned.

>> No.4054084

>>4054068

SHE KILLS GHOSTS FOR SPORT

SHE WRECKS THE ENTIRE GODDAMN SAMSARA BECAUSE SHE THINKS THEY GET IN THE WAY

>> No.4054091

>>4054081

Well, salt water can combust. Not pure water.

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>>4054084
Oh. Yeah, I guess that is a bit careless.

But what does Eiki mean by
>You are neither a living being nor a dead one. Since you are in an unstable position, you can live in the netherworld and kill ghosts.

>You have become too acquainted with this world. If you raise a wild wolf, it'll become a pet. If ghosts live in this world, they'll become a living being.

>> No.4054107

Do Tewi and Hina's powers cancel each other out?

>> No.4054108

>>4054097
She means what she says. Youmu is a half-ghost: she straddles the living and the dead. If she goes to the living world too much, she will die and be judged. Otherwise, she won't die because she is already dead. Or something.

Presumably she doesn't age except for when visiting the living world but I'm sure someone who knows more about touhou will prove me wrong in a bit.

>> No.4054136

>>4054107
Why would they? Hina saves curses. She does not enjoy causing them.

>> No.4054137

How come it takes three sweeps of Aya's fan to blow away a cloak, but only takes one sweep to blow down a whole goddamn house? Can't you fuck that up pretty easily?

>> No.4054144

>>4054107
By Tewi's power, do you mean Tewi causing misfortune to others?

>> No.4054147

>>4054137
The person clutching the cloak around themselves has Love. The house does not.

>> No.4054169

>>4054147
What if that house was a home?

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>>4054107

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>>4054137
It's supposed to be a reference to the wind and the sun parable.

The Wind and the Sun were disputing which was the stronger. Suddenly they saw a traveler coming down the road, and the Sun said: “I see a way to decide our dispute. Whichever of us can cause that traveler to take off his cloak shall be regarded as the stronger You begin.” So the Sun retired behind a cloud, and the Wind began to blow as hard as it could upon the traveler. But the harder he blew the more closely did the traveler wrap his cloak round him, till at last the Wind had to give up in despair. Then the Sun came out and shone in all his glory upon the traveler, who soon found it too hot to walk with his cloak on.

Just kidding. I don't know.

>> No.4054241

>>4054184
What's happening?

>> No.4054278

Keine's power is the blue truth.

>> No.4054301

Keine = Featherine

>> No.4054314

Keine = ZUN

He hid the history of Touhou 1-5
He removed the history of Rin Satsuki

>> No.4054330

>>4054241
Looks like they're bouncing off each other or something.

>> No.4054340

>>4054278
Keine's power is peer reviewed.

>> No.4054359

>>4054340
Why do you think Hieda exists?

>> No.4054365

>>4054340
But she doesn't really have any peers, because the only people on her level of intellect are Eirin and (perhaps) Yukari.

>> No.4054371

>>4054365
>implying Eirin studied any humanities courses at MoonUni and was not a biochem major.

>> No.4054373

>>4054365
>Implying Yakari didn't get rejected from MoonUni the first time she tried to apply, and that she wouldn't have slept through classes anyways

>> No.4054374

>>4054373
>YAKARI

>> No.4054375

>>4054365

On 〇 month 〇 day, the mathematics magician calculated the width of the Sanzu River, surprising related parties.

The Sanzu River is the river which flows between this world and the next.

This river isn't fixed in width; rather, it is famous for extreme length changes according to various factors.

Because of this, calculating the width of the river has been understood to be impossible.

The mathematics magician who accomplished this feat is Ran Yakumo (Shikigami).

She's usually strong with numbers, being able to answer complicated equations instantly, startling those around her.

When asked why she had the thought to calculate the width of the Sanzu River, she simply replied that it was to kill some time.

>> No.4054376

>>4054371
>>4054373
>implying touhous know what a school is

>> No.4054378

Pro-tip: Keine's methodology and epistemology is Marxist.

>> No.4054464
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4054464

Keine: Retroactively omnipotent (can change history into whatever she wants, affects the present and future that way).
Remilia: Eventually omnipotent (can change the future into what she wants).
Yukari: Omnipotent as long as she can figure out a border that represents what she wants to affect.
Yakari: A little indian.
Moonbitch Uno: Omnipotent through sheer overwhelming power (combined powers of every Shinto god).
Suika: Not omnipotent per se, but can affect everything in the universe.
Kaguya, Mokou, probably Eirin, possibly Letty: Can just wait until everybody else dies and they'll have the whole universe just for themselves.

>> No.4054479

>>4054376
Always those uninformed secondaries.

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>>4054378
ktkr

>> No.4056656

Remilia has no omnipotence. It's just her being a smug patrician brat.

>> No.4056676

>>4056656

Fact: Remilia's urine is the source of all Gensokyo's power.

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>> No.4056694

>>4054464
You can't have more than one omnipotent beings and none of the touhous are omnipotent.

>> No.4056704

then she is god GOD I SAY!

>> No.4056713

>>4056704

No, Remilia is God and China is Jesus. We had this discussion already.

>> No.4056718

>>4056694
That's stupid. If they're omnipotent, that means they have the power to have as many bros as the like.

>> No.4056761

>>4056718
You can't have more than one omnipotent. By nature omnipotence is having all the power in the megaverse. If you're sharing all the power in the megaverse with another omnipotent being then one of you or all of you are not omnipotent.

But hey NONE of the Touhou characters are even up to that level of strength maybe except the dragon god.

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>>4056718

This.
By extension omnipotence includes being able to violate your own logic and be excused. Creating the hypothetic rock too heavy to lift and lift it anyway, etc.

>> No.4056800

>>4056773

Can Yukari microwave a Burrito so hot that even she can't eat it, and then eat it anyway?

>> No.4056811

>>4056800

There are no truly omnipotent touhous.

>> No.4056818

>>4056811

But...but you said Yukari can do everything....

I don't think she can fix my broken heart now. ;_;

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>>4056818

>But...but you said Yukari can do everything....

When?

>>I don't think she can fix my broken heart now.

Certainly. She could just move it across the border of being intact or not.
She can certainly do a LOT, but far from everything.

>> No.4056867

Marisa is the strongest touhou.

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4056876

Yukari is relatively weak when there are no borders nearby what she wants to do. Apparently that does happen sometimes.

Border of the fiscal year wwwww

>> No.4056894

>>4056761
>You can't have more than one omnipotent.

Of course you can, silly.

>By nature omnipotence is having all the power in the megaverse.

No, omnipotence simply means being able to do anything. That's it. There is no limitation to how many other people have the power of doing anything, in fact one of the basic uses of omnipotence is creating other omnipotent beings.

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>>4056894
>other omnipotent beings
aka friends. so ronery ;_;

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Come to think of it, for Keine there is a limit that isn't usually considered. She can only change history to what she can reasonably come up with - if there is a situation that is theoretically possible, she can't bring it about directly unless she has knowledge of it.
Certainly the Great and Wise Hakutaku is very knowledgeable, but she's still a single person with limited knowledge.

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>>4057002
If by knowledgable you mean gets her raw material for lessons from fucking AKYU then sure.

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>>4057034

Guess then it's a moot point since Keine probably has no interest of altering anything outside Gensokyo.

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