/jp/ - Otaku Culture

I never thought that I'd be happy to see anonymous of athens#bullshit again.

>>4039985,1
You missed him after all, Meru-chan?

athens ghostbumping his own thread.

What a horrible thread. Was Athens always this bad?

athens is back?

God please no.

>>4042127,1

I don't remember him being racist. The athens I remember shitted up threads with his insecurities about women not fascism.

>>4042127,3
He has always had something against Jews.

>>4042127,4
Jews do control the media and have basically destroyed almost all the civilized values of society. Porn was started and controlled by Jews, still is. Hip Hop music was relatively non-sensical until a Jew started the first hardcore rap label priority, source magazine was owned by Jews and rick rubin had run dmc. MTV was a rock and hair metal station until Jew Sumner Redstone took over in the 80's and made it totally gangster urban music. The Jews also control sports, but how many of you out there still watch Sports?

Right now we are witnessing the two greatest boxers in history with the Klitschkos, don't believe me look at their KO percentages and win streak, but the Jew controlled media will never promote them cause they are white. They should be promoted they both have PhD's and are good role models. All the Jew sports writers claim its the worst era in boxing, this is a straight lie, in fact the eras of Ali, Holmes, Tyson and Lewis were probably less competitive because the best european and cuban boxers of the time were never allowed to compete due to communism. Lets not forget Jews promoted Jack Johnson with the whole racial agenda. Shows like Jew Aaron Spellings 90210 promoted premarital sex. The Jewish controlled fashion industry is responsible for clothing a whole generation of girls like prostitutes. Jews did the same in Germany pre-ww2. I know they controlled the communist party and killed 20 million in Russia for their communist revolution, which forced a relatively tolerant German society to adopt National Socialism. Yes I said relatively tolerant, read Schopenhauer and his love for eastern wisdom. Yes I know Greenspan and Jewish bankers like the head of Lehman, Goldman and AIG have also gutted the Western Economy.

I have never said otherwise, but the small population of less then 20 million Jews could not have done any of this with out the mass of moronic Joe six pack whites or useful idiot wealthy white liberals. No one forced us into all this with swords like the Muslims will. For every senator Gellar there is a senator Kennedy, Kerry or Clinton by their side.

Muslims are no less dangerous. They are both cousins descended from Abraham, from the same region following different versions of the same ideology. Don't forget for 1400 years the most valued items in the slave markets of Mecca were white women. They weren't made sex slaves by the Jewish television or magazines, they were kidnapped at sword point after the men in their society were killed. 60 million European infidels and 270-300 Million infidels in total were killed by the sword in Muslim expansion.

I think with the Internet the Jews are slowly but surely losing their grip. Their agenda is being exposed. It is not just whites waking up, all people who value their culture, way of life, race, ethnicity, values, whatever are waking up to the Jewish hypocrisy of promoting globalization for all except themselves in Israel. But you don't ignore cancer because a heart attack is more deadly. You fight them both. There are 50 Million Muslims in Europe and Muslims already outnumber Jews in North America. In two generation they may be 1/2 of humanity and they do not use sly trickery and academic subversion like their Semitic cousins from Israel, they use the sword to either enslave or kill the infidel.

>>4042127,5
Fuck off back to /r9k/, you piece of shit. Why did you have to come back?

I always hated him for his old /n/ threads. He was always pretending to be a buttmad chink. He's one of the reasons why I believe 4channers in general cant discuss /n/ related topics without dissolving into GDP vs GDP and social system vs social system circlejerks. Everything that was needed to be said about capitalism, Marxism or etc... has already been said (with more detail by non-pseudo intellectuals on various usenet newsgroups).

>>4042127,4
All misogynist are racist by default. No exceptions. Blame the girl that set him down this path of regurgitated inculcation. I guess being called ugly by a female he was trying to help, really made him angry. If said girl was a minority, it would speak volumes about his motives.

>>4042127,5
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I almost forgot how crazy you were.

>>4042127,7
What do you mean by 'racist'?

All people are racist, even the most ardent White Liberals aren't prepared to take the next logical step and buy a house in a predominantly black neighborhood, or send their kids to a majority-minority school etc.

>If said girl was a minority, it would speak volumes about his motives.

It's like you're really spewing the pseudo-psychology of the unscientific fraud Freud!

>athens !SysNpnp3nU
>Posting on /jp/ and the ghost board.
Terrible. My reaction was basically the same as (>>4042127,2). Talk about starting 2010 off on the wrong foot!

>>4042127,11
Typical nonsensical ghostboard elitism.

Having said that, I am not against Elitism. There is something edifying about hierarchy.

athens is moe.

>>4042127,5
I'm bored, so I'll debunk your nonsensical rubbish.

>Jews do control the media and have basically destroyed almost all the civilized values of society.
Whites also control a large share of the media. Your point? Also, you say that as if a media corporation is a Chinese restaurant. Even if it's a mythical Jew that is giving the orders, the orders are still being done by (predominately) white employees.

>Porn was started and controlled by Jews, still is.
Citation needed. Also, what about the global porn industry? Does this mean I can thank the Jews for the advent of eroge games and tentacle rape sims? And if we're going to cherry pick things, then video games and the free software movement was also started by the Jews. The more I read, the more I love the Jews.

>Hip Hop music was relatively non-sensical until a Jew started the first hardcore rap label priority, source magazine was owned by Jews and rick rubin had run dmc.
Even if that was true, the Jews didn't hold a gun to our heads and force us to buy it. Whites account for more than 60 to 70% of rap record sells.
http://www.colorlines.com/article.php?ID=366&p=4
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/08/race

If your wholesome classical music is so great how come [insert genre] of modern music outsells it 10 to 1? If you fail to answer this question I will answer it for you.

>MTV was a rock and hair metal station until Jew Sumner Redstone took over in the 80's and made it totally gangster urban music.
Are you implying that rock music wasn't considered nigger music at its time of conception? Do yourself a favor and google the history of rock before opening your mouth about it. Hint: it makes you look stupid.

>The Jews also control sports, but how many of you out there still watch Sports?
Again, [Citation needed]. Simply regurgitating the unsourced articles you've read on some /r9k/ threads isn't enough to convince me.

>>4042127,14
>Right now we are witnessing the two greatest boxers in history with the Klitschkos,
Not really. It's a boring era of boxing because there's not really any great boxers out there at the moment. It's easy to be the best when there's no competition.

>They should be promoted they both have PhD's and are good role models. All the Jew sports writers claim its the worst era in boxing, this is a straight lie
You're taking a universally accepted opinion about boxing and turning it into a Jewish conspiracy. Good job. Well since there's a Jewish conspiracy we're going to have to rewind time back to the 50s and 60s to uncover the truth about boxing. For every white KO you can find I will find 5 for Mexicans/Africans. That slavish boxer might very well be the greatest boxer of all time, but you can rest assured that there is no conspiracy.

>The Jewish controlled fashion industry is responsible for clothing a whole generation of girls like prostitutes. Jews did the same in Germany pre-ww2.
Alright, now you're not even trying. Where's the evidence?

If girls are such sluts nowadays yet you're still a virgin, how would a person like you get laid in a world where they are NOT sluts?

What exactly do you want from females?

>>4042127,15
>What exactly do you want from females?

Why are you turning this into a MISOGYNY ghosthread?

I'm not the one who tries to justify black rape by claiming that it is motivated by 'feelings of oppression' and 'poverty' like White Liberals and Blacks do. The biggest misogynists are the Liberals and the Cultural Marxists who want to conflate gender roles when in reality they're just a natural division of labor based around our innate strengths.

>If your wholesome classical music is so great how come [insert genre] of modern music outsells it 10 to 1? If you fail to answer this question I will answer it for you.

Sales != Quality

>Does this mean I can thank the Jews for the advent of eroge games and tentacle rape sims?

These are victimless as they don't involve real people.

>Are you implying that rock music wasn't considered nigger music at its time of conception?

It certainly wasn't considered nigger music in the 1980s

>Whites account for more than 60 to 70% of rap record sells.

Doesn't that make sense given their proportion of the US population as a whole? In fact 60% is slightly less.

>Even if it's a mythical Jew that is giving the orders

Who said this was a proactive 'conspiracy'? It's just debate framed by Cultural Marxist norms, and Cultural Marxism was started by Jews. You cannot deny that, look at how Jewish the members of the Frankfurt School were. Look at Gramscian Marxists who also operate in that dynamic of death by a thousand cuts.

>It's a boring era of boxing because there's not really any great boxers out there at the moment.
>That slavish boxer might very well be the greatest boxer of all time

Wut?

Also, you said it yourself. Less competition = Less interesting. What about the Communist era where Eastern Europeans, Cubans and Russians weren't competing?

If you reveal any more of our secrets, you will have to be put down.
Please proceed bearing this in mind.

>Why are you turning this into a MISOGYNY ghosthread?
The only thing I remembered about you was your misogyny; so sue me. By the way, have you grown ashamed of it?

>Sales != Quality
As I expected, you lack the intellectual curiosity to answer such an easy question. To understand the answer to my question you must first understand the correlation between music and moment. In movies, classical music is good for the moment, hence the reason why it is dominate. In the same way you don't listen to weeaboo music at parties with your friends, you listen to rap/rock music while trying to stay awake on the highway. Music sells are directly proportional to how much situations the music can be applied to. This is not rocket science Athens-kun.

>These are victimless as they don't involve real people.
And porn does include real people? How is pretending to orgasm over a microphone in an eroge game any different from pretending to moan in a porno?

>It certainly wasn't considered nigger music in the 1980s
It was still considered garbage by pseudo musical historians such as yourself.

>Doesn't that make sense given their proportion of the US population as a whole? In fact 60% is slightly less.
Blacks don't account for 10 to 20% of classical music sells. Hmm, I wonder why? I hate to tell you this Athens, but in the world of logical debates, there's not always a binary answer waiting for you for any given question.

>Who said this was a proactive 'conspiracy'?
I dunno, you tell me.

>That slavish boxer might very well be the greatest boxer of all time
>Wut?
It was a cheap joke eluding to the fact that he's most likely Slav/Jew/Turk.

>Also, you said it yourself. Less competition = Less interesting. What about the Communist era where Eastern Europeans, Cubans and Russians weren't competing?
In the past there were 'many' greats, as opposed to this time when there are only a few.

Please tell me you guys are just copying wikipedia articles and aren't actually typing this bullshit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI3IFNbjhGs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm-4_G0koxU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHSHvt7MPTw

>>4042127,19
>> Please tell me you guys are just copying wikipedia articles and aren't actually typing this bullshit.

In the past we've shown that Athens copies text from white supremacist websites, slightly edits them, and reposts them on 4chan. If Athens is posting a big block of text, then it definitely is modified kopipe.

And Athens, I remember you said that you WOULD NEVER POST IN /jp/ AGAIN due to it "being a bad influence" on yourself (or something to that effect). Why the change of heart?

>>4042127,18
>Music sells are directly proportional to how much situations the music can be applied to.

This is a common liberal tactic, rather than seeing the obvious, that races have differing tastes - he dreams up complicated observations for observable reality, the fact it completely ignores changes in musical tastes, and sales of certain genres going up or down regardless of the causational factors he posited, doesn't matter to him.

>Blacks don't account for 10 to 20% of classical music sells.

Because people with an average IQ of 85 aren't going to be able to appreciate the perfect counterpoint of 6 different voices.

>In the past there were 'many' greats, as opposed to this time when there are only a few.

Isn't that relative? Ali's greatest rival, Foreman is widely considered to be one of the most overrated boxers of all time for example.

>And porn does include real people? How is pretending to orgasm over a microphone in an eroge game any different from pretending to moan in a porno?

Wow......

>It was still considered garbage by pseudo musical historians such as yourself.

Because it is garbage.

The democratization of Culture destroyed Music, Art, Lit etc in the same way Universal Suffrage destroyed Nations. There is a constant appeal to mediocrity within this context.

>>4042127,21
And you, ZUN !bar, said you would never post on the ghost board because it was for 'normalfriends'.

>>4042127,23
I believe the reason ZUN initially avoided the ghost board was because of you and Meru

>>4042127,21
Athens probably came here following his /a/ comrades.
Umineko break and all that.

>>4042127,21
Also, note there is a difference between 'Nationalism' and 'Supremacy'. Purposefully using the two interchangeably isn't really fair, especially since the MSM takes such extreme care molly coddling and treading on eggshells around Black 'Nationalist' groups that openly call for the extermination of whites.

Well, in South Africa and Rhodesia they got their wish, and anyone who pays attention to History saw what happened there.

>This is a common liberal tactic, rather than seeing the obvious, that races have differing tastes - he dreams up complicated observations for observable reality, the fact it completely ignores changes in musical tastes, and sales of certain genres going up or down regardless of the causational factors he posited, doesn't matter to him.
Nice straw man. When did I say demographics didn't matter? I was just responding to your "Doesn't that make sense given their proportion of the US population as a whole?" comment. FACT: whites, blacks, and Hispanics make up the rap music industry. The average fans of rap music (in most first world countries) are in fact surburban whites. This isn't like the other genres of music that are dominated by whites. You offer no explanation to why this is the case, then you accuse me of being a liberal.

>Because people with an average IQ of 85 aren't going to be able to appreciate the perfect counterpoint of 6 different voices.
That still doesn't explain why modern music (a.k.a nigger music) outsells classical music 1 to 10. From Japan to Iraq, jazz/R&B/rap/rock/metal/soul/etc, dominates the market. Traditional music is going instinct and the market doesn't care. Unlike you, I at least tried to answer why this was the case.

>Isn't that relative? Ali's greatest rival, Foreman
Stopped reading the sentence at here.

>Wow...... I cant debunk your argument.

>Because it is garbage.
Indeed. But in comparison to what? Music genres are good for different situations.

>The democratization of Culture destroyed Music, Art, Lit etc in the same way Universal Suffrage destroyed Nations. There is a constant appeal to mediocrity within this context.

I thought you were a better debater than this Athens-kun. I am disappoint.

>>4042127,26
>Rhodesia
wwww

Zimbabwe makes a great example of a nation gone to shit, but the Rhodesia government was hardly a shining light of civilization.

>This isn't like the other genres of music that are dominated by whites.

How do you mean exactly? Classical Music isn't liked by -any- young demographic in great numbers. Though I'd suspect whites and asians pip blacks to the post if there were quantifiable stats. It's main audience is still Whites though, just older Whites.

Rock music is pretty solidly Young and White for its audience.
My response to you was concerning your claim that

>That still doesn't explain why modern music (a.k.a nigger music) outsells classical music 1 to 10.
>Unlike you, I at least tried to answer why this was the case.

Actually, I did answer it. Modern telecommunications enabled a meteoric rise of pop culture unparalleled in previous ages, this, together with the democratization of Culture (more people having more of an input over Cultural affairs) and the Postmodernist/Cultural Marxist cult of Relativism all combined to create a situation where high culture is maligned and pop culture is endlessly celebrated.

>Wow...... I cant debunk your argument.

I'm just seriously astounded that somebody honestly believes there is no difference between moaning over a mic and actually getting fucked for money.

>Indeed. But in comparison to what? Music genres are good for different situations.

In comparison to everything. Fans of Modern Music are dullard who view things through a vacuum of the past 40/50 years and completely ignore a Western Musical tradition stretching back to the Middle Ages and flowering in the Renaissance.

When assessing objective factors like Harmony and Counterpoint, Classical Music trounces everything, regardless of what modern genre it falls into.

Not -everything- is relative. Some things can be assessed quite easily in an objective manner.

> From Japan to Iraq, jazz/R&B/rap/rock/metal/soul/etc, dominates the market. Traditional music is going instinct

1) I'd like to see stats on the former.

2) The latter is absurd. Musical genres of such age do not go 'extinct', they merely occupy a niche.

>Stopped reading the sentence at here.

Ok, so he wasn't as important as Frazier, but Ali fought his most famous fight with Foreman, not Frazier. And despite the fact many acknowledge Foreman to be overrated, this is considered Ali's greatest victory by many.

>>4042127,28
>but the Rhodesia government was hardly a shining light of civilization.

Conditions for blacks under White Minority Rule in Rhodesia were better than they are now. Same goes for 'apartheid' South Africa and the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa.

Indeed, as far back as the early 1900s Africa was a place of hope. Hard to believe it, but it's true. Every indicator of human progress, lifespans, literacy rates, GDP, all were going up. There was even the beginnings of a Bantu middle class, particularly in places like Ghana, South Africa, Rhodesia, and of course Liberia, where the government began the "Unification Policy" to uplift the native tribal peoples. In the 1950s and 1960s, the horror of decolonization began. Mass murder, rape, and starvation crippled nation after nation. The USSR and USA, the anti-colonial superpowers, began to flood Africa with light weapons in their struggle for power. Between the beginning of decolonization and the 1970s, Africa's GDP as a whole declined. This is an easy thing to say, but imagine what that means. The entire efforts of tens of millions of people to create wealth wiped out AND THEN SOME EVERY SINGLE YEAR. At this point, only the Republic of South Africa, Rhodesia, and Portuguese Africa remained fairly stable, along with Liberia, the Ivory Coast and a few other enclaves which retained their white minorities. These combined represented together more than 75% of Africa's total wealth. In fact, the RSA alone represented more than half the wealth of Africa's 54 countries. After a determined effort by leftists abroad and the OAU, Rhodesia surrendered in 1980. Liberia's government was overthrown in a coup the same year, after which both countries slowly but surely sank into barbarism, mass murder and starvation. South Africa's government too was forced to surrender in 1990; the result has been the emigration of millions of the nation's most skilled people, including half of its medical professionals.

gg lefties

>>4042127,29
*My response to you was concerning your claim that Musical sales were dependent on context. So that popular music sold more simply because it was more context appropriate to what most people do.

>>4042127,29
>It's main audience is still Whites though, just older Whites.
This is getting off the point. I'm just saying that the Jews didn't force us to buy modern music. Unlike classical music that is dominated by whites, rap music is enjoyed by all younger demographics in the US (Asians included). This isn't an opinion, it'$ a fact.

>Rock music is pretty solidly Young and White for its audience.
Which is ironic considering the fact that it was invented by niggers and wiggers. Other genres of music such as R&B; however, are dominated by whites despite being of African American origin. Care to explain why that is the case? Oh wait, you already have explained it with your regurgitated Jewspiracy.

>Actually, I did answer it. Modern telecommunications enabled a meteoric rise of pop culture unparalleled in previous ages, this, together with the democratization of Culture (more people having more of an input over Cultural affairs) and the Postmodernist/Cultural Marxist cult of Relativism all combined to create a situation where high culture is maligned and pop culture is endlessly celebrated.
Jews really are the master race if they were able to pull off something like that. We should be worshiping them right now.

>I'm just seriously astounded that somebody honestly believes there is no difference between moaning over a mic and actually getting fucked for money.
Your christian morals have led you to believe that the sexual reproduction processes of organisms is a moral/holy process. Do you pray for street cats when you see them fucking?

>In comparison to everything.
You really believe classical music would be better in a club, don't you? Opinions rejected.

>1) I'd like to see stats on the former.
http://allcharts.org/music/japan/singles.htm

Obviously this list changes from time to time but if you focus on the genres, they're mostly R&B/rock/metal/Jazz/soul/pop/ and sometimes rap.

>2) The latter is absurd. Musical genres of such age do not go 'extinct', they merely occupy a niche.
A niche you say? More like shit people no longer care about. If traditional music genres like enka are going to survive, they're going to have to mix with other (more modern) genres.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE-nZqx_EQw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMdjAYs98W4

>I'm just saying that the Jews didn't force us to buy modern music.

I never said they did, this is a bit of a strawman.

>Unlike classical music that is dominated by whites, rap music is enjoyed by all younger demographics in the US

Again, strawman. I've never doubted Rap Music's broad popularity.

>Which is ironic considering the fact that it was invented by niggers and wiggers.

Now... I'm not good with the History of Rock Music, but even I know this a contentious and hotly debated issue. One that hasn't really been resolved and is still going on.

>explained it with your regurgitated Jewspiracy.

Was Nikita Khrushchev also a believer in a 'Jewspiracy' because internal memos reveal that he believed 'over 50%' of certain top Soviet departments to be comprised of Jews? How about when Trotsky said that they would pay back the 'anti semites in the imperial family' tenfold? Or how about the support for the

Let me get one thing straight, I do not believe a secret cabal of globalist Jews meets up underground. I simply believe Jews have been over-represented in intellectual movements like Marxism, Cultural Marxism, Hedonism and so on that have been ultimately damaging to Nation, State and Society. Their motivations differ for doing this, some genuinely dislike White Society and make no secret of that fact:

>Jews were also at the vanguard of the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Wilhelm Reich, Herbert Marcuse and Paul Goodman replaced Marx, Trotsky and Lenin as required revolutionary reading. …

>Pacheco was one Jewish porn star who read Reich’s intellectual marriage of Freud and Marx. …

>In light of the relatively tolerant Jewish view of sex, why are we ashamed of the Jewish role in the porn industry? We might not like it, but the Jewish role in this field has been significant and it is about time it was written about seriously.

- Nathan Abrams, Triple Exthnics.

Others, like say.... Noam Chomsky genuinely believe what they are saying is the right way to a prosperous future. They view themselves more in terms of an academic vanguard that is going to lead the Proles towards the light than anything else.

>Your christian morals have led you to believe that the sexual reproduction processes of organisms is a moral/holy process.

I'm not Christian, and sanctifying sex is hardly exclusive to Christianity, Monotheism or even Religion (see Secular Ethics on the matter).

And comparing humans to cats is retarded. Humans construct narratives to understand our actions, cats do not.

This is why I believe in shame culture, if you believe that mere moral conscience is the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong then you are a moron. Because that is subject to all the philosophical gymnastics one uses to justify their transgressions (it is part of the liberal tradition that to understand is to forgive all) - On the other hand, shame culture, and the wider idea of constructing narratives to understand our actions is more rigid, and holds people to stricter standards.

I've often found that people who blame religion for all ills are missing the real issues though. And most of the people who do that just use their so called 'atheism' as a proxy to attack White Western Civilization, they never attack Islam or Hinduism or other religions as virulently because they don't have the balls.

>You really believe classical music would be better in a club, don't you? Opinions rejected.

A 'club' isn't really a context you can take as a standalone environment as the place itself sprang up around the popular forms of music and as a result of the music rather than the other way around. 'Venue' is more fitting. And Classical Music is more suited to venues.

In any event we're being detracted from the real issue here, when you assess something objectively you assess it in of itself. So you assess Music by the objective standards I mentioned.

>Obviously this list changes from time to time but if you focus on the genres, they're mostly R&B/rock/metal/Jazz/soul/pop/ and sometimes rap.

That's not really hard quantifiable data pertaining to your assertions though bro.

>If traditional music genres like enka are going to survive, they're going to have to mix with other (more modern) genres.

Enka will always survive, even amongst the younger generations there will be a niche market. Classical Music is doing just fine with the Middle Classes as is. It's a small market but it will survive.

>Jews really are the master race if they were able to pull off something like that. We should be worshiping them right now.

Must I repeat myself? It is not a proactive conspiracy. Cultural Marxism is well attested to and you can see it residually almost everywhere. Look at the rise of multilingualism and its defense as simply being 'polite' and 'respecting another culture' for a good residual example.

Marxism is an extreme form of left wing government. Cultural Marxism, however, is a 'way of thinking'. The idea that all humans are equal may be extended to races and genders and this is where the roots of feminism and multiculturalism exist.

Feminism is more or less the idea that gender roles are nothing more than a social construct and therefore can be removed without problems. And multiculturalism is the idea that races are all exactly equal and therefore there should be no separation between them.

Cultural Marxism must be shied away from because it is based on an incorrect assumption. All humans are not equal. Genders are not equal and races are not equal. Believing they are does not make them so.

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NB: Referring to other forms of Jewish support for Communism, there is obviously the intellectual basis itself: Marx. But you've got things like financial support, even from Wall St. Bankers for the Reds during the Russian Revolution, they say this as an opportunity to take vengeance on the Whites/Royalists and the Christian population of Russia as a whole.

They dreamt it up, they brought it into being, they engineered the red terror (Trotsky) and forced Germany to adopt National Socialism (there was a LEGITIMATE FEAR amongst Europeans that what happened over there could happen in Western Europe too). Can you see how one could hold at least a little enmity to the Jews for all this?

>Again, strawman. I've never doubted Rap Music's broad popularity.
Okay... so what did you mean by: "This is a common liberal tactic, rather than seeing the obvious, that races have differing tastes."

You're either contradicting your own argument or you're claiming your argument was weak. Instead of implying the libs were wrong for assuming race wasn't a factor in sells, you should have said they were wrong for thinking it wasn't a 'partial' factor in sells. Because if you're saying ethnicity determines album sells, you're going to have a hard time explaining why whites keep listening to rap.

>Now... I'm not good with the History of Rock Music, but even I know this a contentious and hotly debated issue.
It's not really a question about whether blacks had a hand in the creation of rock, it's more like a question of which blacks had a hand in the creation of rock. With the only white factors being wiggers (who at the time received death threats from the KKK for making 'colored music').

>Was Nikita Khrushchev also a believer in a 'Jewspiracy' because internal memos reveal that he believed 'over 50%' of certain top Soviet departments to be comprised of Jews? How about when Trotsky said that they would pay back the 'anti semites in the imperial family' tenfold? Or how about the support for the
I don't have the time to debunk every Jew conspiracy you throw at me, but I will say this. Being influential != conspiracy to enslave white race. Whites do a pretty good job of doing that to themselves with their constant colonization of brown peoples' lands. How dare those brownies fight back to get their motherland(s).

>Jews were also at the vanguard of the sexual revolution of the 1960s.
Implying there wasn't a never ending escalation of sexual revolutions prior to the 60s.

>Jewish role in the porn industry? We might not like it, but the Jewish role in this field has been significant and it is about time it was written about seriously.
Where did you get this from? Oh, let me guess: http://tiny.cc/4zXNP

>I'm not Christian, and sanctifying sex is hardly exclusive to Christianity,
You sure do sound like one.

>Humans construct narratives to understand our actions, cats do not.
Mental masturbation much? Don't get me started on why that was wrong.

>This is why I believe in shame culture, if you believe that mere moral conscience is the ultimate arbiter of right and wrong then you are a moron.
Please practice what you preach.

>I've often found that people who blame religion for all ills are missing the real issues though. And most of the people who do that just use their so called 'atheism' as a proxy to attack White Western Civilization, they never attack Islam or Hinduism or other religions as virulently because they don't have the balls.
Siding with the extreme right now, are we? Die monster, you don't belong in this world.

Fuck. gb2/a/ Athens.

>>4042127,34
>And Classical Music is more suited to venues.
Thanks for proving my point in your own words that some music genres are "better suited" for a given scenario.

>That's not really hard quantifiable data pertaining to your assertions though bro.
Truth, my citation was lazy. Here's something lazier: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_albums_in_Japan

Most best selling albums in Japan fit into three categories: Rock/R&B/Pop. Japanese pop music in general is usually a less perverted version of our pop music. Koreans are just as bad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzjCfn9j79g

>Must I repeat myself? It is not a proactive conspiracy. Cultural Marxism is well attested to and you can see it residually almost everywhere. Look at the rise of multilingualism and its defense as simply being 'polite' and 'respecting another culture' for a good residual example.
And the rest of your post is copypasta from earlier copypasta in this thread. Now I see how you got to this situation.

1. A girl you were trying to help called you ugly.
2. This led you down the path of misogyny.
3. You searched for articles to discriminate against females. Which also brought you to articles about race. You assumed minorities like blacks and Mexicans were responsible for the slut culture of modern day women.
4. You needed one last group to link all of your hatred/insecurities together, so you included the Jews.
5. [Insert confirmation bias].

How does it feel knowing I read your life like a cheap 2 dollar book?

You know who I'd really like to see come to /jp/?

Hotaru Doll Faggot. I think he got permabanned from OPchan for some petty reason.

>>4042127,37
It seems you've been reduced to ad homs quicker than I expected. Ah well, just goes to show it is isn't worth showing your kind of people civility.

As for your hypothesis, you do realise I used to be a massive liberal right? Fuck I've even read Bakunin. My move to the right began when I started to read how flimsy the scientific evidence for blank slate theory was.

>>4042127,39
I can understand why a narcissist such as yourself would interpret my honest hypothesis about your upbringing was an argument (even though its context speaks the contrary), but I'm sick and tired of people misusing/abusing the phrase ad hominem. Had I substituted my argument with my hypothesis about your upbringing it would have been an ad hominem (argument). But clearly that's not the case.

>As for your hypothesis, you do realise I used to be a massive liberal right?
I guess that makes us opposites. As always Athens-kun, you're always the odd man out. A few months ago we ghost took a political compass test and most of us were leaning to the left.

>My move to the right began when I started to read how flimsy the scientific evidence for blank slate theory was.
I don't recall you speaking about such things prior to this moment. When did you become enlightened to the truth? Let's see what you really believe in: http://www.politicalcompass.org/test

>>4042127,39
>Ah well, just goes to show it is isn't worth showing your kind of people civility.
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

My kind of people you say? And by what pray tell did you mean by that? Does having a particular view on something forfeit my rights to common courtesy? You're not very nice.

>>4042127,38
And his posts were always more entertaining than Athens'.
I think he actually believes what he writes, unlike dear Athenaki who takes positions on the sole basis that the majority will disagree with them and then copy and pastes from radical sites to come up with material.

"We've been through this before I believe. I simply don't believe in proactive conspiracy theories."

I forgot how funny I found your posts. Anyway, I'm surprised this hasn't taken a turn to insulting athens for his low powerlevel. Isn't that what we used to do?

http://i46.tinypic.com/wbrmty.jpg

And no, I don't believe in pracotive conspiracy theories.

Nor is my use of the term 'ad hom' in this context improper, you make a series of naked assertions based on flimsy Freudian psychology, but even by those standards they're utterly negateable and of no consequence whatsoever.

>And by what pray tell did you mean by that?

People who are not gentlemen. I believe in gentlemanly conduct in any debate.

>>4042127,44
>http://i46.tinypic.com/wbrmty.jpg

Sup Hitler, how's it going?

>>4042127,45
Not too bad Godwin. Thanks for comparing me to one of the greatest men of the 20th century though! : D

>>4042127,47
Isn't that the purpose of this board anyway? To quarantine this brand of faggotry? I'd rather them duke it out here then on /jp/ itself.

I want to have a threesome with athens and Elksop.

>>4042127,47
>Well, given /jp/'s current wave of newbros,
Ever since that Tohno guy appeared there has been a surge of neo /a/ tripfriends on /jp/. I wonder what's going on.

>it was a matter of time until our lovely one-trick-pony trolls returned.
It looks like our little pony has learned some new tricks.

>>4042127,50
>I wonder what's going on.
/a/ Crunchybros are using our board for Umineko. Unfortunately, some decide to stay.

/jp/ is really shitty right now, new threads being created every 5 minutes, discussions die and things are getting image spammed.

It's like I'm really back on /a/!

I'll take the newf/a/gs over ahtens any day.

>>4042127,53
Ｉ　ｗｏｕｌｄ　ｒａｔｈｅｒ　ｈａｖｅ　ａｔｈｅｎｓ　ｔｒｏｌｌｉｎｇ　ｏｖｅｒ　ＫｏＧ，　ｉｍｐｌｙｉｎｇ，　ａｎｄ　ｒｅａｃｔｉｏｎ　ｉｍａｇｅ　ｔｈｒｅａｄｓ．

Hmm, I'm not reading all this bullshit, and it seems I don't agree with athens on everything he says, but I thought it was nice to hear a voice from the other side (conservative, that is) for once, and not by a religious person... though if athens now says he's a Christian that would change things.

I don't get why people try to be white knights and berate him for being a misogynist though, considering misogyny is so prevalent on 4chan. Don't tell me when push comes to shove you people all try your darndest to get into women's pants after all, or treat it all as some "inside joke"? The janitor being female and deleting (besides athens' posts) all posts that insulted her womanhood is typical of the kind of female behavior that I despise.

>>4042127,55
I'm not religious no. I'm not really that misogynistic either. I just believe that Women were never truly oppressed: gender roles were assigned by a division of labor based on our natural capabilities.

I'm not sure why everyone is so sure the Janitor is a female though. It could just be a trap.

>>4042127,56
It's been a while, but I just did a search and found the thread where we figured out the mod/janitor for /jp/ is female:

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/88886

It was a thread where people were crying they couldn't post junior idols anymore, hahaha.

>>4042127,56
>that Women were never truly oppressed
That may be true, accounting for historical and cultural factors. I just don't think society gains anything by keeping women barefoot and pregnant. If a woman can be trained to do a job, and do the job as well is a man, she should be allowed to work.

>I'm not sure why everyone is so sure the Janitor is a female though. It could just be a trap.
It's a joke. Janitors aren't moe. Search the archive for "meido".

>>4042127,58

Good afternoon woman.

>I just don't think society gains anything by keeping women barefoot and pregnant.

How about an above replacement level birth rate?

>>4042127,59
With the amount of people on Earth we don't exactly need to increase birth rate, though... instead, we should focus on bringing it DOWN for Africans, Arabs, Indians, etc. which will also prevent us from becoming a minority ourselves.