/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>37647942

>>37647942

ZUN on derivative works

>>37682222
Based Zun enjoys pornography of his own creations

>>37682318
>Based
Refrain please
Also it's more about him encouraging all types of fan content rather than policing it like some creators. Very admirable of him to give even the lewd stuff his blessing.

bumpu

I liked this bit
you can actually find keiko's music and hear specific bits that are later used on touhou songs

>>37647942
>It might sound rude to say it in this way, but smartphone games are more like “game-like applications” to me. They don’t fit my definition of a game.
I fully agree, mobileshit (and gachashit) aren't true games. This is a fairly popular opinion I think, it's why elitists look down on anyone who calls themselves a gamer when they primarily play mobile games.

>>37682222
This outlook is befitting from the creator of a franchise who's fans don't even play the games.

>>37708559
It's amazing how many touhou fans don't play the games or read the official print works. Canonfags are in a state of perpetual seethe over it

>>37708673
le copey seethey rent free durr hurr

>>37708688
>t. seething canonfag
Cry about it

>>37708702
Type a sentence without buzzwords autist. Let me see that sparkling personality.

>>37647942
Question for anons, was there any interview or stream/radio transcript where he talked about working at Taito for a spell? I'm genuinely curious about that dude to Magic Pengal indirectly introducing me to Touhou.

>>37708782
*due
how'd I fuck that up.

>>37708559
That pic...

Did ZUN predict George Floyd?

>>37708559
Wait hold on this is Unconnected Marketeers isn't it? That happened after Floyd died. This was a nice reference on ZUN's part.

It's amazing how fast a nice thread can derail into shitposting so fast.

>>37708831
>>37708844
He can't keep getting away with this.

>>37708559
It's way too late to complain about secondaries for Touhou of all things. Just stick to the content you want to see and ignore the shit you hate.
That being said, if someone makes fan content that respects the characters/setting or does something cool with it they're fine in my book, 1ccs or not.
>>37708784
In this interview he briefly mentions his time at Taito.
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/The_Untold_History_of_Japanese_Game_Developers_Interview

>>37708852
If I want a serious conversation I'll turn on my VPN and post to 2ch. You faggots aren't good for anything other than talking about which characters you'd rather fuck, le fumos, and telling your fellow newfags to get out of /jp/.

>>37708871
Shitpost, and then you wonder why all you see here is shitposts.

>>37708857
I don't necessarily have a problem with secondaries (although I love the games and wish more of them would at least try them) even during the "golden years" of Touhou there were a lot more secondaries creating content than most would think. I only started flinging shit at >>37708673 because he's weird and took my comment the wrong way.

>>37708673
How can you consider yourself a fan if you don't do either? That's like saying you're a fan of Star Wars despite never having watched the movies or a fan of Pokemon despite never having played the games. It doesn't make sense and I'm sure ZUN would agree

>>37708877
Yes I'm sure if I refrained from shitposting everyone else would as well.
>>37708881
That's a really dumbass comparison. Touhou is an independent doujin series that was born and survives through derivative works, Star Wars and Pokemon are multi-million dollar IPs that exist to print money for their respective companies.

>>37708880
>I love the games and wish more of them would at least try them
I was surprised at how much I came to love the games even as someone who never played a bullet hell prior to getting into Touhou. Gives me an adrenaline rush even now.
>>37708871
If you hate this community then so be it. I still have faith in it and would rather not see needless shitflinging.

>>37708857
Thanks bro.

>>37708857
>It should be noted that this article may have a large amount of inaccuracies on the part of the interviewer, due to several damning reports of editorial misconduct by the author around the publication of this book. Thus, you should consider this page for archival purposes only rather than as an accurate depiction of ZUN's views.
Ruh oh

>>37708925
I wish I had that optimism but the western community has fallen off a cliff in my eyes. Pretty much every Touhou centered forum is dead, I can take my pick between obnoxious fags who insert their identity politics into Gensokyo on twitter, redditors who spam fumos and danbooru reposts, or /jp/ who, for every decent post, has 100 fetish posts. There really isn't anywhere to go for Touhou anymore.

>>37708973
at least the lore threads are still alright

>>37708973
I hate the mindless lewdposting here too. But when a decent thread subject like this one appears I wanna keep it as shit free as possible no matter how few may be interested,

>>37709041
Fair enough. I won't derail your thread any further unless I absolutely have to.

>>37708871
Then stay on 2ch please, you don't need to lower average post quality on two boards simultaneously.

>JS: Before Highly Responsive to Prayers, did you make any other games?
>ZUN: I made a handful of games before the first Touhou, but I never released them. Some of them I showed to my friends, but they weren't official releases. The first game I ever made was a copy of Puyo Puyo. <laughs>

Now I'm curious.

>>37708973
>There really isn't anywhere to go for Touhou anymore.
you could always just, y'know.. play the games.

>>37708673
You have no idea. In a Beatmario stream where he was playing Touhou recently he made a poll asking his audience whether this is the first time they're seeing an original Touhou game, and for about 80% it was.

Another recent stream that I enjoyed a lot was when someone managed to convince Yuuhei Satellite's new very talented and cute zoomer vocalist (who doubles as a vtuber) to play MoF and she couldn't finish the game on easy. I don't mean 1cc, I mean finish in general.

>>37711607
>I don't mean 1cc, I mean finish in general.
Well if she's new to bullet hell that's to be expected. I got my ass handed to me on easy in EoSD when I first started playing 2hu.

>>37711607
people who watch streamers usually don't play games themselves so it's not surprising

>>37711607
A lot of kids watch beatmario, so they probably don't even own a pc.

>>37709975
I couldn't lower /jp/'s quality any further even if I had an army helping me.
>>37710568
The community surrounding a game is important as well retard. For a doujin series the official content is only the tip of the iceberg.

>>37708971
It's apparently related to culture war bullshit, so don't worry about it.
>>37710555
Reminds me of how the staff at SNK had a test fighting game build that featured characters like Ryu and Goku they cobbled up during development of KOF 97/98. They mentioned that and people really want to see it.
Has there ever been a Puyo Touhou clone by anyone?

>>37711607
to be fair, MoF is easier to finish on a 1cc than it is with continues
if you couldn't beat a stage with all the lives you had leading up to it, how are you gonna beat it with the defaults?

>>37716545
There is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ItUrW36Co&ab_channel=Rubycored

>>37716545
Dracula Mima? who the hell is this?

>>37723708
It's Satan Mima.

>>37719614
There really is a Touhou version of almost whatever you can think of, dang

>>37647942
It's interesting reading old interviews and seeing if the interviewee's vision for the future ended up true or not.

>>37708973
I'd much rather have the fetish posts, which have been part of the Touhou fandom since the start, than literally anything else you mentioned. And if you actually like 2hu, so should you.

>>37708973
The fumo fags unironically sound the least cancer out of those options.

>>37743365
What's so wrong with fumo?

>>37745519
Look at the current fumo thread in the catalog right now and search for the previous ones in the archive and you'll understand

>>37708702
kill yourself crossboarder

>>37745562
No. Why don't you want your fellow anons to come here?

>>37745534
The Doug walker thing is the only serious cringe thing in the thread, but the biggest complaint I see with Fumo is that it's pretty much speciating into its own thing separate from touhou, and fumo enthusiasts are not necessarily touhou fans, so annoyance with fumos is just a proxy for hating secondaries.

>>37755371
Is it really fair to hate secondaries?

>>37761018
Hating secondaries has been a fandom pastime since the early day
imo I think most people wouldn't hate them if they didn't sperg harder than the dedicated type of fan when discussing anything actually related to the series, they're like aversive to enjoying a franchise for real

>>37761018
Yes. They are parasites.

>>37761018
If they don't create meaningful content (thus disqualifying almost every westerner) then yes.

>>37766481
I'm assuming meaningful content means "full length" content and not like, memes.
because then yes, nearly every westerner.

>>37708782
http://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=13935.msg923954#msg923954

>ZUN: "As for Kisume... her usual activities are a mystery. The only image I have of her is that she is pretty brutal. Words are useless against her; she'd just chop your head off, put it in her bucket, and go home. The head you see may not even be Kisume's."

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism/Interview

>>37771169
>the most fearsome youkai was the fucking bucket girl all this time

>>37710555
>>37716545
There's also a lewd Puyo Puyo clone made with PC-98 characters made by FocasLens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBvqG8-6W7s

I wonder what would have been ZUN's reaction if he had seen this in the late 90s.

>ZUN: "I made it to be a game people would hate."
well... that explains a lot

>>37777548
I forgot to put the link
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php?topic=14315.540

>>37777562
>ZUN recalled the time he had appendictis. The doctor said he was very near to death
Dang. I heard about that but I seriously didn't expect it to be that close.

>>37771142
The heck is Lord of Vermilion?

>ZUN: After not playing it for a long time, I played Lotus Land Story and beat it.

You would think it would be an easy task for him.

>>37777954
it's this arcade game that's sort of a trading card game
it's had collabs with everything under the sun and most people know it from the parody version in final fantasy xiv
ZUN lent Yuyuko and Reimu to be in the game way back when, and they had some little lore bits in their descriptions

>>37778682
Yuyuko is schizophrenic and Gensokyo is reinforced as a paradise for youkai but shithole for everyone else

>>37777548
Why would ZUN do this?

>>37787303
Trolling

>>37787303
I did not write it in full, sorry, my mistake. what I should have placed is "I made SA to be a game people would hate"
Th11 SA is probably the most difficult and frustrating game ZUN has ever made.
Orin is a pain in the ass to defeat for example.

I can't wait for Johnny Hearn to debut

>>37791447
Johnny who?

>>37777562
>Due to the special Kantai Collection content, the sales of this issue of Febri magazine went up by an order of magnitude.
>ZUN criticized Febri for chasing the trends and forgetting its initial purpose.
He's just like us

>>37799305
>he hates gacha and mobile games too
Based ZUN

>>37797558
The dream we all share

>>37711607
>play MoF and she couldn't finish the game on easy.
I've never played mof on easy, but (for comparison) it took me like a week just to finish eosd on normal the first time I started. And I didn't do so while having to entertain a bunch of people. If it was her first time playing you can't expect much anyway.

>>37771142
>When he was working on Magic Pengel (ラクガキ王国 in Japan), the situation was very tough, and he accumulated a lot of stress. To release the stress and anger, he made EoSD.
>The game system of EoSD is the same design he had pitched. The people at Taito all knew that. They said to him, "do your job properly." He said, "I am doing my job." There weren't any actual big tasks to do, and they didn't even have to work overtime.
I feel this

>>37778388
nope. guy who invented piano was not a piano master

>>37803629
He better, they mangle the writing of his characters for mass appeal.

>>37813018
The community mangles the writing of his characters on a daily basis, in comparison whatever crimes the gacha 2hu games have done are minor.

>>37708673
I don't play the games but I still enjoy every derivative piece of art from it. At first I thought I didn't play them because I sucked at them but that was only half a reason. I just do not enjoy bullet hell games. Sometimes I feel like I shouldn't be enjoying touhou the way I do or that I am taking advantage of other people genuine interest in the franchise when I start talking to them about characters of the game without even being able to play them but the majority of people I talked to didn't mind at all. Maybe I am just overly cautious but I always hesitate when there's a chance to talk about touhou with someone because I don't feel worthy. I hope I will be able to get over it someday

>>37816321
It's alright anon. As long as you're not one of those guys who try to pass off fanon bullshit as canon fact in lore discussions, you're alright in my book. Unless you're a Cutesokyo faggot. In which case consider pic rel

>>37816590
i bet i have more 1ccs than you and prefer cutesokyo over muh grimsokyo (especially the "durr eat humans" crowd and those that constantly try to force their shitty headcanons on others while whining about the fandom)

>>37824031
how many 1ccs do you have

>>37816321
>I don't play the games but
Gonna stop right there. Filtered.

>>37824660
You don't need to play the games to be a touhou fan

>>37830229
If you suck at the games but still bother to read the side materials (manga, info books, etc) and game dialog, then you're more of a Touhou fan than the one who doesn't play but also doesn't bother to do that.
Lore is just as important as the games themselves.

>>37830518
no one except autismos cares about 2hu lore. everyone is here for waifus and thats it

>>37830229
>>37833317
Cringe secondary coomer

>>37647942
are there any sources or interviews mentioning ministry of right and wrong outside of PMiSS's Yama page? since hecatia is goddess of every hell i assumed she would be a part of it, but then alternative facts in eastern utopia she describes herself as an "outlaw" not apart of "that society", and presumably not affiliated with the ministry?
also why the fuck does the entry for non-gensokyo hells on the wiki say hecatia is at the top of the ministry according to her omake profile when the ministry isnt even mentioned in her profile. who the fuck wrote this

>>37833473
Can always try asking on the talk page, but I've never seen anything else in material implying that about Hecatia either. Only that she governs New Hell. I guess you could assume that since the Ministry is a part of Hell (or at least supported by those in Hell) that she would be in charge of it but even then it shouldn't be on that page unless material actually supports it.
Just do it under a VPN because they get ban happy.

>>37830229
80% of touhou fans have never played the games, i dont know why these guys keep making such a big deal over it

>>37836151
Secondaries shit up everywhere they go with substanceless fanart spam. You wouldn’t be disliked without a reason.

>>37836151
100% of Touhou fans gave played the games.
Secondaries aren't Touhou fans.

>>37682222
>>37682318
>>37687273
Based. ZUN dabbing on Cygames sending horse yakuza after Uma Musume artists

>>37833473
A lot of the wiki needs updating, there's plenty of things that are stated with no sources whatsoever. I really hope no one's been putting fandom shit as canon fact over there

People who play Touhou are the biggest non-fans there are. It's all just a giant egotrip and circlejerk. They publically make a great spectacle of the fact that they play Touhou and think that their choice to play this particular series of games as opposed to some other one makes them some kind of superior breed of human. They don't even care about anything in the series except the fact that they're publically identifying themselves as playing it. The only other people I've seen this kind of behavior from is fighting game faggots.

>>37840479
And what does this have to do with any of ZUN's interviews?

>>37840479
Look at this loser without 1ccs and laugh.

>>37840479
>superior breed of human
Your words not mine.

>>37841411
Where the hell does this pose come from? I've seen it on a bunch of different characters by now

>>37824320
Haven't spent a single dime on Touhou.

>>37842270
cringe. go support zun so he can keep making games

>>37840382
Can you list some others? I know there's the whole thing with attempting to describe the dragon (Ryuujin is both a figure and can also just mean dragons so the wiki went full retard) and Maribel's name (at this point it's been too long to fix)
>>37842565
He's been making bank even early on in the English speakig fandoms where all we had was piracy because importing was stupidly expensive. He'll be fine.

>>37841229
how many 1ccs does the average """true""" 2hu fan have? i got 5

>>37840399
A lot of these guys look disgustingly wh*te. Where was this?

>>37855996
georgia

>>37859063
LoLK came out in 2015, ya goof!
IIRC this was an anime con in California where some dude asked ZUN a Trump question. He was not amused.

>>37816321
There's a huge difference between "never played the games" and "tried them but didn't like them because I don't like the genre". The latter is completely understandable and doesn't indicate laziness like the former.

>>37842187
Pretty late but it comes from Record of Ragnarok.

>>37840399
Weird. I thought ZUN hated America?

>>37805786
this. anons expectations are way too high

>>37647942
>I'm going to keep making games that stand out, so if all my fans disappear I'm still happy I can keep doing the games I want.
https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Interview_in_Swedish_Player1_Magazine
More indie devs need this outlook.

>>37866917
Zun hates California but likes Texas

>>37840399
Left’s cosplay is 10/10 brohu
Guy beside him is ugly and effeminate and I kind of want to hurt him
ZUN is ZUN
Guy beside him is another good brohu cosplay for adding camo and shades. Take notes if any of you (male) fags plan on cosplaying a Touhou character.
Also lol at the fatass Reisin in the back. Average secondary.

>>37876899
>its just fucking rinnosuke
zun cmon man

>>37876899
Words to live by

>>37687273
>>Based
>Refrain please
What repulses you from this phrase? It's common on every other board but /jp/ feels like being different. We're all coomers stuck in the same bucket

>>37876961
He judges the states by the quality of their beer

>>37878114
Buzzwords make having interesting discussions difficult. You can’t really interact with a post that simply says “based” “cringe” “coomer” “zoomer” “boomer” etc. /jp/ tries to maintain a minimum standard of quality while most other boards’ idea of a back and forward interaction is spamming shitty wojaks while quoting whoever you disagree with or commenting “based” under what you agree with. That’s why the majority of this site is unusable outside of smaller hobby boards.

>>37813197
One of from passion one is from profit.

>>37878294
Haha right, so anyway please buy my funny doujin where Sakuya loses her pads on sale on at Comiket for 1500円

>>37859411
I don't blame him. Imagine going to chill with some fans and beer and some weirdo asks a political question killing the mood.
>>37866917
Dunno where you got that idea considering he's appeared here a few times

>>37878234
I use 'based' as a synonym for agreeing with someone, followed by an argument or justification why that's true. I agree with your point.

How do you feel about Touhou getting more commercial? We would have never imagined something like Lost Word existing back in the old days. How do you feel about LostWord's existence or their agenda?
What's good is that Touhou's more commercial nature standardizes it more, so creators like me can licence and monetize their work a lot easier, without any weird confusion with copyright.

>>37879216
I don’t see anything wrong with your comment (I’m not this anon >>37687273 ) because it had more to it than just a single meme word although I can see why somebody else might dislike it since that’s just a few steps away from the low quality shitposts you see flooding every other board.

Touhou’s always been pretty commercial hasn’t it? The freedom for creators to make and sell their own original content without fear of copyright is the biggest reason for it’s massive popularity. I think it’s good for creators to have a way to make money on the side while doing something they’re passionate about. Even since the very early years that I wasn’t around for, doujin groups have been selling music CDs, doujins, keychains, art books, and all kinds of other neat shit. As for lost word I think it’s shit but I hate all gacha and believe it only exists to drain money from your wallet, but it is what it is. If some anons enjoy it I don’t really care as long as they keep it in their general.

>>37879525
>Touhou’s always been pretty commercial hasn’t it?
You're right, but maybe I've chosen my words wrong. What I meant is that it has become a lot more global and not as "niche", for lack of a better word. One way of putting it would be that there is Lost Word fans that don't know what Touhou even is. By the way, I'm not playing the elitist. Just making an example of how its popularity has spread. Even something as much of an inside joke like fumos have become a meme among the general public that aren't necessarily Touhou fans.
What I mean is that Touhou has become bigger in the west (not necessarily BIG, compared to the east) and its marketing has definitely adapted to the western mindset, which might be not as comfy as eastern marketing, but that might be just my personal opinion.
>believe it only exists to drain money from your wallet
everything commercial boils down to this, what really defines its motives is how passionate are the people working on it.
I think Lost Word is pretty alright, it's been inviting creators on the internet to contribute to the project by having them create exclusive content for it, however all of them have been big names, which is a shame because there is some amazing smaller creators who have absolutely astonishing passion for what they do with Touhou and its community.

>>37879216
Not him but I don't understand why people would have a grip with Lost Word, it's not like it's canon or like it takes time out of ZUN's day in which he could've written for manga or worked on the next game, all he does is give thumbs ups and appear in streams. It's not like it's FGO.

>>37879824
I do think it’s annoying when people who’s only exposure to Touhou is fumos or other shitty memes try to involve themselves with real fans (yes I’m pro-gatekeeing) and inevitably shit up every discussion just from not knowing how to do anything other than spam repetitive memes but I try to ignore them since those types always fizzle out after awhile. Memes are transient so the general public will eventually move on while anyone who ended up looking into Touhou and became genuinely interested will stick around. Though I will admit they’ve started to make me detest fumos a little just from overexposure.
As for lost word, I’ve dabbled in it and it’s not as bad as it could be even if I hate it solely for being a gacha. The characters are close enough to canon, and they involve doujin circles as you said which is always good to see. Imo someone who’s first exposure to Touhou is through lost word wouldn’t be nearly as insufferable as someone who learned about the series through fumo memes because their first experience is something that at least has some of the soul of the original series in it.

>>37803629
KanColle is neither gacha, nor mobile, nor a game.

It's not an interview, but it's ZUN related
twitter.com/korindo/status/1474933875390689281
Cute to see that at least on traditional art forms, he still draws that wide face.

>>37883366
I wish ZUN went back to hand-drawn portraits in games. It has so much soul and energy.

>>37883366
Happy 2022 reims

>>37879216
I don't like gacha for the same reaons as the other anons but some look at least better than others. Cannonball seemed decent, or maybe it didn't had the time to became too greedy. Also the intro animation is actually amazing.
I have less sympathy for Lost Word however. Involving doujin artists seems nice but I wonder how much they were paid versus how much the game makes. And I'm not sure how I feel about things like pic related. Of course people already did drawings like this before Lost Word and it's not a problem but that game being so popular and so accessible gives a very different feel to the series to newcomers. I've seen people with love for a character so fragile it literally depends on if they manage to pull the latest costume of that character.

Ouside of gacha, the whole "Touhou Doujin Music Distribution" thing (東方同人音楽流通) was a little worrying. While a legal way of distributing their music on streaming platforms is probably a good news for doujin circles, having a company doing the middleman between them and the buyers doesn't seems very "doujin" to me. Thankfully things have improved since it was first introduced, before circles weren't even allowed to have their own page on BOOTH as everyting had to be under the single "東方同人音楽流通" page.

>>37900277
Not that anon but what do you think of Danmaku Kagura?

>>37901106
I don't know if it's greedy or not but it looks pretty nice actually. The fact it's a rhythm game is an interesting idea since the music circles are such an important part of Touhou, and it doesn't seem like the characters are treated as nothing more than "rare" sellable commodities used to convert the love people have for them into money like Lost Word does, which really is my main problem with that game as without that it could be just a regular fangame.

>>37879824
>santa reimu
Doesn't make any logical sense. Reimu would be the Grinch, or Krampus.

>>37911839
Maybe she lost a bet or something.

>>37911839
Reimu would be santa but only if she's forced to by Kasen or Yukari and does so reluctantly.

>>37803629
Then how do you explain LW?

>>37880303
Its been over 8 years and yet this still has to be repeated.

>>37778682
>Recent Dream: The Annihilation of Youkai
well that was a fucking lie

>>37917915
>how do you explain LW?
ZUN is a hypocrite obviously

I hate gacha but if someone offered my money to make gacha based on my work I'd agree. If retards are going to waste their time and money on jpeg gambling then I'd rather be the one profiting from it.

>>37924007
He didn't earn a cent though. He decided to allow them like he allows any other derivative work.

>>37924076
Decided to allow? Do all derivative works require his approval?

>>37803629
>>37880303
>>37917915
There was this >casual >mobile >game describing KanColle that was a ripoff copypasta of the >Holy >Roman >Empire one.

>>37926665
He hadn't previously allowed commercial works.

>>37924076
How are we supposed to interpret that then? He just allowed a gacha game to use his IP for what? Popularity I assume because Touhou has indeed gotten more popular ever since LW was released. Of course more popularity means more money.

>>37877264
clowpie guy is from /k/

>>37926949
Would /jp/ fuck a brohu to assert dominance?

>>37926972
those are not brohus, they're /k/ommandos

>>37926665
>Do all derivative works require his approval?
He didn't want anyone using 東方 in the name or any commercial works nor selling of any derived works outside Japan.

>>37926949
He should shoot himself.

>>37926949
Remilia shaved his legs, seems to be wearing makeup, and has plucked eyebrows...

...hold on, is that a chick pretending to be a dude pretending to be a chick?

>>37926949
Camo clownpiece is patrician taste

>>37932898
mechanix gloves are shit

>>37877711
Now all the bullshit armchair philosophy makes sense..

>>37843902
NTA but I've personally recently found two such examples while doing some research, on the Human page in the Humans in Touhou section, things like "In ancient times, brave humans, who knew how to deal with supernatural entities, traveled to a youkai-infested area that we now call Gensokyo. They settled there in order to watch the youkai and keep them from terrorizing the rest of the countryside." and "the normal Gensokyo human is probably a little more powerful than the average youkai" but where is this ever stated in canon? The entire first paragraph of that section gives no source while making big claims.

And in Eirin's wiki page it's said that she met up with Medicine Melancholy on nameless hill and they became friends, but it gives no source as to in what work this happened. I've skimmed through every appearance for both characters on their pages and cant find a single instance where the two met. This type of stuff needs to have sources.

>>37912507
Reimu would never be the one giving out things, she only takes. She's the biggest miser of all. Not even Kasen or Yukari can change that

>>37948407
I tought you had cooled down with your reimu hateboner

>>37942075
I wouldn't be surprised if fanon shit like that was leftover from the wikia, before they moved to their own domain. It was easy then to just edit random shit as they saw fit and in typical wikia nature nobody cared, and then after that they didn't really bother to clean up.
I remember reading very strange claims on there from time to time (not that I could remember by now, but it was probably dumb shit like making up BS about Sakuya's past or someones age).
Unfortunately like I said fixing others errors there is like pulling teeth, unless you've got tolerance for dealing with the usual wiki editors autism.

>>37942075
I vaguely remember Medicine interacting with Eirin in her pofv ending.

>>37950782
Coincidentally I'm playing through PoFV right now and just got to the Reisen ending in which she tells Eirin about Medicine and the field of lilies of the valley and Eirin wants to immediately head there, so it wouldn't surprise me if they meet in Medicine's ending.

>>37850491
As someone who's got more than 12, I think one is more than enough to prove you've put effort into the series.

>>37905189
It's not greedy at all. All the characters can only be unlocked for free by playing the songs and the gacha is only used for rolling cards which boost your score. Scoring is in itself optional and you get all the songs unlocked from the start. You also get tons of free tickets for rolling the gacha every week.
The story seems to adhere to canon very carefully, to the point it even makes fun of popular fan theories by dismissing them as "dreams from the people of the outer world".

>>37942075
>>37840382
Just because something doesn't have a source linked doesn't mean it isn't true. It's only suspect to people who read the wiki to learn about Touhou instead of playing the games.

>things like "In ancient times, brave humans, who knew how to deal with supernatural entities, traveled to a youkai-infested area that we now call Gensokyo. They settled there in order to watch the youkai and keep them from terrorizing the rest of the countryside."
That's form PCB's prologue https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Story/Prologue

>and "the normal Gensokyo human is probably a little more powerful than the average youkai"
This is from something that's probably in the EoSD to IN period that is most likely something ZUN said in his blog or in an interview. I know I've seen it personally in something but I'm not sure it's even translated so it's impossible to search for. Nonetheless it's certainly from something around that era since that's when ZUN was still describing Gensokyo humans as descendants of youkai hunters. Even the PCB prologue up there arguably says they're roughly as powerful.

>>37954401
It sure would be nice if they provided sources at the very least so people don't have to rattle in their brains trying to remember stuff

>>37953751
That's good to hear, seems like an actually good game then.

>>37954603
Honestly there needs to be a dedicated translation/retranslation group that goes through everything on the wiki and then starts citing and reorganizing pages once everything's nice and translated properly.

>>37647942
most shocking, controversial interviews that completely changed your perception of ZUN and 2hu?

>>37957766
Maybe.

>>37972381
>Maybe.
maybe what?