/jp/ - Otaku Culture

No, France Shoujo.

No, everyone will be voting for Reika Bitch Training.

Still going to vote for Ayakashibito. Alone.

Nooooo ... we're voting for Swan Song.

>>3715709

We're clearly all voting for Kimi.

France Shoujo. Accept no alternative.

Too overrated

I thought we all agreed to Swan Song?

I would hope that the poll date is announced in advanced and is on a Friday/Saturday or Sunday.

It would suck if he just opened it randomly, as it is easy to miss a 24 hour poll, especially if it is not on a weekend.

>>3715898
No, we all agreed to Flyable Heart

Just vote for what you want; it's not like there won't be 10 good titles to choose from.

Hikari no Valcia will be released at November 20. Meanwhile Inganock was released at November 22 two years ago, so maybe around that time. Don't forget the poll will have two phases: top 10 and final.

>>3715911

No, we agreed to Swan Song.

I don't care what you're voting for. Couldn't you just post when the poll goes up instead of constantly giving me all these false alarms?

>>3715942
No, we agreed that Swan Song is emoshit

>>3715951

No, we agreed it was awesome.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3702115

>>3715979
>Thread full of samefags
...

>>3715989

>Thread full of samefags
>100+ posts

Whatever makes you feel better.

A little late for the occasion, but I'd tap that Chinese ass.

I don't have enough votes to vote on all the ones I want.

I will be voting for Muv-Luv because I don't really like Disney eroge, I prefer my eroge to be the Real Deal.

>>3716051
>Chinese
Disgusting.

No wait, I thought we were gonna vote for Ignacock.

Haha. This thread is why some weird title no one wants is going to win. We all need to agree on something.

And we all already agreed Swan Song. Maybe Baldr Sky. Not MLA.

>>3716388
> Maybe Baldr Sky. Not MLA.

I've played both, and I don't understand how anyone could ever consider Baldr Sky to be better than Muv Luv Alt.

>>3716388
Not really, we will get Baldr Force soon anyway.

>>3715709
No. I'm voting for Swan Song.

>>3716438
Opinions. In my opinion Sky is better than Alternative.

>>3715705
Stop spamming your shitty board on www MJBLDYHKtalk com (replace "MJBLDYHK" with "anon"). We are tired of your fucking spam, DDoS a ttacks and trolling. You are the asshole of the Internet.

>>3716521

Fact. Swan Song is better than both. /jp/ agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>3716438
Seconding this. But well, it's a matter of taste after all.

I like that in Alternative the hero doesn't singlehandedly take down an army on his own just because he is the hero.

Anyone who wants Ixrec's "abridged version" of Muv-Luv as opposed to someone translating the whole series with care is retarded. VOTE FOR SOME REAL DEAL SWAN SONG.

>>3717212
>Anyone who wants Ixrec's "abridged version" of Muv-Luv as opposed to someone translating the whole series with care is retarded.

But the original Muv Luv isn't very good

>>3717212
God damn it, how many times do we have to tell this fag that Ixrec's not really going to make an abridged version. Someone please give him the Ixrec quote detailing how he' going to handle the translation.

I like that people in /jp/ won't actually look up the VNs and vote accordingly but will just be like "oh i saw a thread on swan song, let's raid the poll for that!!!!!!"

>>3717326
[20:45:56] <kViN> Ixrec, please say "No I won't absolutely ignore Extra and Unlimited if Alternative wins"
[20:46:02] <kViN> so I can paste it every time someone says we shouldn't vote for MLA
[20:46:14] * Ixrec|asleep is now known as Ixrec
[20:46:32] <&Ixrec> there is a strong possibility I will translate a significant portion of Extra and Unlimited in the event Alternative wins

>>3717357
>significant portion
>not all

derp

>>3717326
Anyone who tries to propagate the "Real Deal" and "Disney" terms shouldn't be taken seriously anyway.

Where the hell do you vote


Person who gives like will get my vote for whatever one they chose

>>3717399
Not up yet, but I imagine you'll be able to find the link at ixrec's site.

>>3717322
I'd play EX/UL just for UL anyway.

Not that Unlimited is any better than Extra

>>3717473
Unlimited gets good by the end

Of course though Unlimited is nothing compared to Alternative.

What you vote doesn't matter, since botnet-kun and I will be sending all of our votes to Reika's Bitch Training to troll everyone.

>>3717490
Too bad that doesn't matter at all as the poll results aren't publicly available.

Swan Song is awesome, im voting for it.

>>3717490

Doesn't matter. Ixrec plays through the game he's going to translate first and won't translate it if it's below his standards of 8/10.

>>3717569
As the main furry dev, he surely going to love such a well-written, nicely presented and exquisite bestiality eroge like Reika Bitch Training.

>>3717639
Exactly.

>>3717639
Ixrec likes cats, though, not dogs or pigs.

>>3718218
Did Ixrec play wanko as well and how does he feel about wanko? Is it a 10/10 game for him?

I'd rather ixrecs NOT to translate EX/UL as those are avarage and rather long still (altough he doesn't translate them completely). So time translating those would be better to spend some better things. So I will not vote for alternative for that reason.

>>3718342
Good point. We should have one of the fastest translators not work on Alternative since its prequel is too long. That way he can work on shorter, inferior VNs.
Meanwhile no one else will translate either, because they are too long.
In the end, we get a shorter, less amazing VN.
Awesome.

I thought Ixrec won't accept Muv-Luv. Apparently it's shit. Stuff like France Shoujo, Hoshizora and Swan Song are much better.

>>3718370
See
>>3717357

[20:45:56] <kViN> Ixrec, please say "No I won't absolutely ignore Extra and Unlimited if Alternative wins"
[20:46:02] <kViN> so I can paste it every time someone says we shouldn't vote for MLA
[20:46:14] * Ixrec|asleep is now known as Ixrec
[20:46:32] <&Ixrec> there is a strong possibility I will translate a significant portion of Extra and Unlimited in the event Alternative wins

>>3718359
I'm not saying that he shouldn't translate Alternative, it's amazing, but I just rather him not tling EX/UL. one can just read extra and unlimited with agth+atlas, and then theres that UL manga thats almost translated and from what I have read it's pretty decent version of UL anyway. so those are enough in my opinion to enjoy AL.

>>3718397
It's either one or the other.
Alt and some of EX/UL, or no Alt.

>>3718410
well this is on of those things that split opinions a bit. But it's not that I'm not going to vote it later, just now I have few others in higher priority.

>>3718410
In that case, fuck Alt.
I'd rather have 3 good 9/10s then one 10/10 and 2 7/10s

>>3718664
If that were the case, then I would be inclined to agree with you. But the reality is more like one 14/10, one 7/10(EX) and one 8/10 (UL).

>>3718716
It is 14/10 only until it gets translated so let's leave good games alone. Fags may have baldr sky if they won't it so much.

>>3718716
>But the reality is more like one 14/10
Overrated shit is still shit.

Don't understand what the big deal about Swan Song is. Story game with no plot twists? Yawn.

>14/10
That doesn't even make any sense. Something can't be better than perfect.

>>3718842
>14/10
in short: overated

>>3718842

Much less a VN full of flaws like MuvLuv Alternative

>>3718842
A 10/10 or perfect VN can be trash for book, video game, or animation fans. A score more than 10 transcends all limitations of medium and create the most exquisite entertainment and literature for all eternity.

>>3718853
alternative is awesome but not that awesome that it could be said to "transcends all limitations of medium". It has its moments and flaws

>>3718853
I see what you did there.

>>3718860
Don't take me seriously bro. I'm just making shit up.

There's no such thing as perfect VN that are enjoyable for person in the universe. EX/UL is a huge cake which will satisfy those who enjoy generic Japanese comedy, but the effort to translate them all is a pain. ALT might be real deal, but you can get Dive1, Swan Song, Comyu or other smaller and as enjoyable VNs if you handle the limited translator resource well.

>>3718876
>if you handle the limited translator resource well.
The dream of having every translating team working together in a not too terrible attempt at cooperation will live on forever.

>>3718860
Don't take me seriously bro. I'm just making shit up.

There's no such thing as perfect VN that are enjoyable for every person in the universe or atleast in this community. EX/UL is a huge cake which will satisfy those who enjoy generic Japanese comedy, but the effort to translate them is a pain.

ALT might be real deal, but you can get Dive1, Swan Song, Comyu and other smaller and as enjoyable VNs if you handle the limited translator resource well.

Ixrec won't translate VNs for an indefinite amount of time; dude have a life and will move on (unlike Moogy) so use his talent well; is ML/ALT really worth getting, at the cost of other real deal games? I don't think so.

>>3718885
However, not every translator could agree on one work method. Ixrec and his team prefer SVN method with better control and sparing the rest of people in the community from spoiling themselves; meanwhile Moogy and TLwiki bunch makes their script available for everyone, and you can create an immediate but rough unfinalized patch just with some effort.

There's also matter of style; Ixrec prefers on keeping the author's style (Tanaka Romeo's incomprehensible gags, Hikaru Sakurai stylized writing and linebreaking) while Moogy prefers localized (real deal meme etc) and smooth reading (hence making so many quotable lines in Sharin loses its effect).

There's something I don't get. There's finally someone willing to do Alt. It can finally happen. And like if it wasn't already good enough news, there's even a possibility of him doing "a significant portion of Extra and Unlimited". Where every translator and team stopped, finally someone is standing up to the task. For someone to translate three VNs (Or should I say 1 and a significant portion of two others) for a single project is something that happens very rarely.

I can understand that people want to see other REAL DEAL VNs. I can understand the "We could get three real deal VNs instead" argument. but what I don't understand is how anyone could pass-up the deal of having Ex, Ul and Alt translated. You want Swan Song? It's a single VN, the odds of it getting translated are way higher than a goddamn three-parter.
Baldr Sky? Is Dive2 even out yet? At least give it some time!

What I'm saying is, if we're to see Muv-Luv translated, it's now and never. It's completely retarded to not vote for it, seeing as it's most likely one of the only chances we'll get. That's all I have to say.

>>3718908
>now or never
Yep yep.

>>3718908
OMG LOLI MOE XD > Actual quality

by /jp/ standards

>>3718916
...Actual reality?

>>3718908
I want VNs that is worth my time, and MuvLuv seems bloated. I can't read Japanese and evaluate them myself; meanwhile relying on crowds, EGS, English reviews written by those who'd read it, or words of mouth are always a tricky business. See Kazoku Keikaku (EGS, reviews by TakaJun, LoSs, etc).

Instead of aiming for something big and getting disappointed later, I'll bet on getting more of (probably) equivalent stuffs. Smaller chance of disappointment that way.

>>3718923
People who enjoy garbage translated VNs are the reason why actual GOOD ones will never be translated

>>3718908
inb4 Ixrec spends months and months translating Extra three thirds of the way, gets fucking bored and quits.

Swan Song is a low-tier eroge for low-level weeaboos. Fucking romance shit. I demand a Real Deal eroge with ACTION.

What exactly makes something REAL DEAL?

>>3718950
This.

>>3718925
I understand what you mean. That's how someone with no conviction thinks, and is usually the right way to go about things when you want to play safe. As for me, it's a risk I'm willing to take, because I like "real deal", and I believe that a VN praised high as "real deal" will be well worth it. But about Kazoku Keikaku, I think it's mostly a real deal vs Disney kind of thing. I'm more of a real deal person, so Kazoku Keikaku was a huge miss on me. However, for someone who prefers lighthearted VNs, it could be great. KK was praised as a VN where it should have been praised as a lighthearted VN, I think that's all there is to it.

>>3718956
I don't have enough faith on those big games. I just want to see more (in quantity, therefore smaller size game is preferable) VNs that is worth my time both in playing and discussing in this subculture. Saya no Uta for real deal, or Planetarian for moege are worthy comparison.

>>3718945
Haha, what. You have absolutely no idea what Swan Song is even about, do you?

>>3718983
I can tell from the title of it. Do YOU have any idea what it is about?

No, I didn't think so either.

>>3718985
Swan Song do have high body count.

>>3718990
Enjoy your Key-asthma moe deaths.

>>3718993
Great. It's so happen that I loved KEY.

Let's see... my vote will be Swan Song, Comyu, and Hikari no Valcia (loved the impression from Inganock's partial patch, and I know stuff will get better).

>>3718990

What's Vash doing there?

>>3719016
Being a faggot.

I'm going to start translation projects for all games except ML so that they are excluded from the poll.

Who care about what will be nominated?
It's not like /jp/ will care, if anything has been proved recently, it's that /jp/ doesn't have any VNs lovers, only a bunch of faggots who only want to talk about Type-Moon and trash-talk everything else.

>>3719040
>It's not like /jp/ will care
>/jp/ doesn't have any VNs lovers, only a bunch of faggots
>BAAAWWWW my SUPER SEKRET KLUB is all filled with faggots. It's all useleeeeesssss.

>>3719040
It's almost like TYPE-MOON has the only worthwhile translated VNs so far

>>3718956
Kazoku Keikaku is more REAL deal, with emphasis on real, then bloated futuristic mecha drama.

>>3719040
VN discussion starts off good, but after a few days it becomes a unrecognizable ball of pus that festers on idiot's comments.

>>3719061
You forgot Key. Too bad the slowest translators always grab the projects first. I would love to have Ixrec translate Little Busters!

>>3719073
That few days worth of less-trolling discussion is worthy moment to grasp. Otherwise is to be IRC or forum faggot just to get quality discussion. Don't forget easymodo.

>>3719084
>easymodo
>worthwhile discussion

>>3719080

>>3719080
He was probably sarcastic you know, hopefully.

>>3719087
>Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo
>reaction images.jpg

Jut as planned. MuvLuv will never be translated.

>>3719098
You must be new here, she always posts reaction images.

>>3719195
>she

>>3719201
That's from her name, do you really think a girl would lie?

The hell with you people, I'm voting for 12Riven and you can't stop me.

>>3719032
Oh yeah, well I'll start a translation project for the ML games so that'll be excluded. Now what!?

>>3719248
Now I'll join your project.

>>3719248
I could help.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVdz0u_9hsg

Bad Apple!!

>>3715707
stop spamming and attacking www . anuntulk . com please (nun = non, tul = tal).

I'm glad some of you guys are using that copypasta since there was a lot of people confused about this (which is understandable since muvluv has been disqualified and renominated quite a few times). Also, Ixrec is going to play MLA next (he was going to read it after YU-NO, but he played Saya first) so we'll know how much of Extra and Unlimited he considers necessary to fully enjoy Alternative. If there's someone here who has read it, can you tell me what do you think about this? The opinions about this matter seem to be a bit different depending on the person, so I'd like to read a detailed explanation (without spoiling much if possible).

bampu

It has come to the point I don't really care who wins anymore... It'll just be funny once something does.

>>3719705
At the very least Meiya's and Sumika's routes from Extra are needed (they're pretty much the same route anyway) as well as almost all of Unlimited (there aren't routes in Unlimited, just slight variations on the same two endings).

Of course this is just the bare essentials; there's still some things in the other Extra routes that come up in Alt. They're not necessarily huge, but I still think you'd be missing out on something. If you're going to play Alt, you really should aim for the full experience.

What we really need is some translator to say they will translate what ever Ixrec doesn't of Extra and Unlimited.

Of course, Ixrec may decide that just about the entirety of Extra and Unlimited are needed once he played Alternative, which would get rid of all these problems.

Outside of Ixrec, I don't believe we can reasonably expect any Muv Luv project to start in the near future.

>>3719902

>Outside of Ixrec, I don't believe we can reasonably expect any Muv Luv project to start in the near future.

This

Swan Song is a good short game, it is likely someone will decide to translate it in the near term.

We have Baldr Force already being translated, so Sky should get less priority since regardless of who wins, we will get a Baldr game (which is pretty much equal rating on EGS)

Few other choices should compare to Alternative.

>>3718908
THIS THIS THIS
My god. I wish I had the effort to type this out. It's been in my head for ages. Voting for MLA here.

Everyone that says they'll vote for something that isn't MLA is trolling.

>>3719886
This seems to be the general consensus, though I've seen some people who attach more importance to those details in minor routes. Even so, I don't think Ixrec would leave anything relevant to the plot untranslated so we'll just have to wait until he finishes it.

>>3719902
>What we really need is some translator to say they will translate what ever Ixrec doesn't of Extra and Unlimited.
This is very likely to happen if Amaterasu picks up muvluv.

>>3719902
>Of course, Ixrec may decide that just about the entirety of Extra and Unlimited are needed once he played Alternative, which would get rid of all these problems.

The problem with that is that Ixrec didn't play the entirety of Extra and Unlimited. He said that he rarely finds all routes to be equally worthwhile, and so usually just plays a couple and calls it good.

>>3720027
>This is very likely to happen if Amaterasu picks up muvluv.
What are you basing this off of?

>>3719995
I'm not, and I'm not trolling.

>>3720038
Nobody has translated muvluv yet because the whole saga is really large, but if Ixrec translates the main routes of Extra and Unlimited (besides Alt, of course) it wouldn't take much work to finish the rest.

>>3719930
Sky and Force are kinda different though.
Force is more of a game, the story portion is actually quite short.
Sky is more of a VN, far more focus on the story and character development.

Personally I think Saihate no Ima or Ayakashibito should be translated in priority.

I'd wait until Dive 2 to make a decision

Honetly I don't the deal against Extra and UL, they are both quite good.
Extra is really fun all the way through, UL establish the alternative world quite well and has an awesome ending.
Playing Extra, Unlimited and Alternative back to back was the best experience I had with this media.

Any of the 3 top contenders (swan song, baldr sky, Muv-luv alternative) are good choices if they win, so non eed to fight between them. Altough in the case that AL wins, I wonder if ixrecs will take something as side project? considering if it wins we wont be getting anything else from him untill sometime next spring/early summer (or later depending how his TL speed will hold), considering how large the muv-luv project will be. Also in case of baldr sky, I wonder will it become same shitstorm as EX/UL/AL has between the dive1 & 2 or will they be combined automatically?

On side note, 2 weeks till dive 2, FUCK YEAH

You've convinced me. For the first time I have hopes in getting muv-luv translated.

The ideal situation would be for Fungi to do Sky when he finishes Force, Muv Luv Alt to win the poll, and Swan Song, being short, to be picked up as a side project.

>>3720151
>Fungi to do Sky
Not gonna happen

>>3720151
Oh how I wish this would happen. Fungi is a new translator right? I hope he's fast...

from what I have heard, fungi is someone japanese whos looking to improve his english or something along that line. So he wanted to translate something short as a test. so I doubt that he will be interested in translating sky afterwards.

>>3720151
Nice utopia, bro. But the 'MLA wins the poll and Swan Song is picked up as side project' part sounds more realistic.

where can I vote for Muv luv

>>3720248
Poll is not up yet, but it should be soon.

>>3720151
>The ideal situation would be for Fungi to do Sky when he finishes Force
I'm counting on this.

>>3720257
Don't hold your breath for that to happen.

>>3720264
Well, I was debating whether to rally for Swan Song or Baldr Sky. Since somebody is going to start on SOME Baldr project, chances of Sky getting project eventually too have gone up.
Also, Swan Song is shorter.

Everyone in this thread is forgetting something.
Ixrec said he will automatically translate something he gives a 10/10 for (YU-NO was excluded since it already has a project and two translators) and he plans on playing Alternative next. Does anyone have reason to believe that he will give it less than 10/10?

<Ixrec> Swan Song's pretty easy, yeah
<izmos> and you liked it right
<Ixrec> there's one scene with a bunch of Buddhist terminology I didn't know
<Ixrec> 9.5/10 yeah, just a little
<Ixrec> and that's it unless you find text walls hard
<izmos> seems like to me it's a pretty good idea to do it as a side project indeed. I can only see it or some really large stuff to win
<Ixrec> if something huge wins
<Ixrec> like the rules say
<Ixrec> the runner up will likely be done between partials
<Ixrec> unless runner up is also huge
<Ixrec> then I'll just make an executive decision and everyone will live with it
<izmos> which means that if Swan song gets to be the top second it'll be translated, unless for some reason a surprising short/medium vn wins

>>3720315
We need 70% of /jp/ to vote for Alternative, and 30% to vote for Swan Song.

>>3720168
Um lol no. Fungi is a Japanese friend of mine who has lived in the United States for much of his life (i.e., his English is fine), but is now currently back in Japan. BFE is his favorite game, and he's wanted to translate it for some time now, but simply hasn't had the time until now.

He hasn't even played Sky, so uh, don't expect a translation of it.

Anyway, that's the story behind the BFE project. Japanese friend of mine wants to translate it, the end. I dunno how fast we'll be, but BFE is not a long game so it won't take us more than a few months at most.

>>3720302
well I can see ixrecs giving AL 9 - 9.5 as it has some minor downpoints (bit slow start, linear, bit of a shitty end. thats ofcourse just my opinion).

>>3720302
<Ixrec> the 10/10 rule will not overwrite an already chosen project
<Ixrec> ALSO
<Ixrec> because this probable 10/10 demands a 7/10 prequel
<Ixrec> whether the 10 rule even applies is fuzzy
<Ixrec> ofc if it really is *that* awesome I'll prolly just not give a crap and tl all of it

>>3720334
I'm not expecting Fungi to do Sky. Force's translation might get somebody else to do it.

>We have Baldr Force already being translated, so Sky should get less priority since regardless of who wins, we will get a Baldr game (which is pretty much equal rating on EGS)

I have no opinion about Baldr, but I generally like to have all of a series and would be very annoyed if some were left untranslated.

>>3720326
This.
Why can't Bladr Sky, Swan Song, AND MLA all be translated? I hope those three get first place.

>>3720346
Not really a series. They're set with 200+ years apart. Not even the setting is the same from what I gathered.

(refering to Extra)
<tomas> i'd just like to point out that the length of the two main routes combined depends very much on your choices
<Ixrec> got a point there, may have to tl everything just so random choices don't break

Gonna vote for MLA with /m/.
You guys will vote for Swan Song, so it is a win/win situation.

>>3720315
So if we get Alternative to win, and Swan Song second, we get both?

>>3720362
Yeah.

>>3720362
More like four VN's total.

If Ixrec did all of Extra/Unlimited/Alternative and Swan Song, would /jp/ still bitch?

>>3720374
Yeah, because Baldr Sky didn't get any.

>>3720362
I like this scenario.
Others will do Sky, especially if dive2 is as good/better than dive1.

>>3720374
pretty sure we would, as there is always someone who will.

>>3720374
It's /jp/, there's always something to bitch about.

>>3720346
>I have no opinion about Baldr, but I generally like to have all of a series and would be very annoyed if some were left untranslated.
So do you want a translation for Baldr Bullet and Baldr Fist?

>>3720374
Of course. Expect your daily "ITT Overrated shit" with a MuvLuv OP.

>>3720374
Of course. But some of us would be really, really happy.

Most popular real deal games on that list:
- SWAN SONG
- AYAKASHIBITO
- BALDR SKY
- MUV-LUV

It's really hard to choose. Sad but true, I do not believe real deal will win the poll if you know what I mean.

>>3720400
Considering how these VNs are nothing alike, Real Deal becomes more and more pointless as a comment.

>>3720400
>ayakashibito
Enjoy your x-men VN

>>3720400
You can take out Baldr Sky.

>>3720404
Cool story bro but it seems you don't understand the concept of real deal as it was never meant to describe tentacle rapan gaems, though some of them can be real deal too.

>>3720411
Real deal makes as much sense as moe.
Everyone uses it to describe different things.

>>3720409
Not before disney devs take out their disney gaems in relation to the current disney being translated

>>3720400
>- AYAKASHIBITO
I think Comyu tops this.

Baldr is terrible, get over it.
It has gameplay and gang rape, stop being so stupid /jp/.

>>3720416
Right. Sure we could create a more detailed definition but then I would feel like fucking stupid. Hower the general idea should be clear.

>>3720429
I fucking hated that. In order to get Nanoha raped I had to play BADLY on purpose and stall for more time, which is running in circles around the map. Shit sucks.

I have to agree with the above, we have a translator willing to translate Alternative and much of Extra/Unlimited. I doubt that any other translator would be willing to say that he would do that, so we really should take this chance and get Alternative translated.

for some reason I wish the poll would be delayed a bit and be held in about 3 weeks from now. that way people would have played dive2 and know if it will be as awesome as its shaping up to be.

>>3720416
It's simple, really:
Real Deal - Games I THINK I like.
Disney - Games I THINK I don't like.

>>3720446
This.
Glad to see that what I said last night is still be propagated.
It's not that difficult of a concept. Why has MuvLuv not been translated yet? Sure, people complained about it being unhackable, but I believe that the scripts have been available for a long time, and yet the only person expressing interest was that one guy on /m/ who made .1% progress over the past year.

Just asking, why do you guys want swan song translated? honest question here.

I honestly don't care about all the other novels you guys are discussing (No, not even Muv luv) and probably won't vote since my choices have 0 chance to win.

>>3720432
The qualities you guys attribute to REAL DEAL also apply top many other Vns, including ones you call disney, not that these Vns even relate to Disney in the first place in any way.
Just say ' I rally for this VN because it has these elements' instead of pushing stupid terms

>>3720479
I don't think so. Just because some trolls misuse these terms doesn't mean they are insignificant. Liar-Soft is disney by definition because of talking animals. Period. No discussion.

>>3720478
They say it's good.
They say it's a wall of text.

So, I'd rather not use my brain and read quickly in English instead of processing Japanese.

>>3720408
I fucking loved the X-men.

>>3720486
So Tsukihime is disney because of Neko Arc?

>>3720493
I don't remember any nekos in Tsukihime's plotlines.

>>3720489
I'm asking this because I belive I read somewhere that Nasu claimed swan song to be a masterpiece, so it would make sense that all of this is an elaborate Type-Moon fans troll dragging us over to suck their God's dick.

My apologies /jp/, My delusions are getting worse, I haven't slept very well and I might be mixing up stuff.

>>3720506
What do you want to know? It's real deal and pretty good.

Jesus fucking christ, half of the posts in this thread are filtered. When will you faggots stop with the disneyrealdeal idiocy? It's like I'm really on /b/.

>>3720506
You're thinking of Cross Channel.

>>3720497
Len.

>>3720514
Well that's like your problem and loss and the same time. Maybe you should get back to you're anisuki

So are the polls open yet?

>>3720514
Dont worry, I will make a mail with a request to filter that, it is purely used for trolling.
I will post it here later so you guys can send it to.
Latet, I am kinda busy right now.

Get Out Baldr Devs.

I have inside information that says KS Devs are behind all votes for Baldr.

Are YOU a KS Dev?

Stand up for your Real Deal and fight! Rat out all KS Devs!

So I was thinking about the "three bigs", and am I correct that they are pretty much about:

Swan Song: Some huge earthquake hits and climate is messed up and it starts to snow. the story is mostly about the drama what the people do after world end like catastrophe? So it's some kind of survival drama?

Baldr Sky: Cyberpunkish VN with gameplay? It's about some mercanary chasing culprits of some huge incident, and somewhere along the line he loses his memory? and after that he struggles to remember what he was doing, while he gets deeper in the net of plotting from different factions that all were somehow involved in the incident?

Muv-Luv Alternative: Some ordinary guy gets dragged some alternative version of his world? In that world humanity is fighting a losing battle against aliens that like om nom nom people. So he gets drafted to military and starts to fight against the invaders all the while hes looking a way to return to his old peacefull world? Epic mech action ensues.

>>3720579
I think Muv-Luv has JAM Project music.

>>3720579
>Swan Song
Disaster movie shit?
>Baldr Sky
LOST HIS MEMORY? LET ME GUESS SECRETS FROM THE PAST ARE SLOWLY REVEALED AS THE STORY GOES ALONG? OH BOY THAT SURE IS A FUCKING ORIGINAL PLOT DEVICE THIS HAS NOT BEEN DONE SO MANY FUCKING TIMES BEFORE THAT IT IS LITERALLY PAINFUL TO GO THROUGH
>MuvLuv Alternative
Could be interesting depending on the direction it takes (hint: not going all shonen magazine)

>>3720585
It does, multiple tracks from JAM project, here is the opening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dNnyMCJ1yk

>>3720543
hahaha owow little thoughtpolice-san wanting to transform 4chan into his private little world.

We should all vote for Swan Song since Ixrec said it would be easy. He'll finish it fast and we can vote for whatever the next time.

Am I the only one who despises "lost their memory, lets see what I remember over time" type stories?

I'll vote for Soshite Ashita no Sekai yori - some kind of alternative story to Swan Song about world's end with almost perfect art, music and writing.

>>3720579
Baldr Sky Dive1 starts with the protagonist losing his memory so he wants to find his past.

Alternative is the second time Takeru gets into the "alternative world", the first time being Unlimited, that ended with a bad/bittersweet end. So this time, starting where he started in UL, and armed with the knowledge of future events, he proceeds to shape up a different future.

>>3720606
The problem is that the hipsters will vote for either their current hurr 2ch hypeballon durr like C+C or for another round of annoying 100% disney with talking animals.

>>3720607
Clearly you're not, look at >>3720596's spergattack.

>>3720606
Seriously, Swan Song is pretty short. He would be finished in two months or so.

>>3720374
I would not. I could compromise.

>>3720609
Except nowhere near as good or powerful of course.
Soshite Ashita no Sekai yori is pretty average.

Kind of a spoiler but Saihate no Ima also focus on the same theme, though in a much better way.

>We should all vote Swan Song since it's short so Ixrec will be done with it quickly
>We should all vote Inganock since it's short so Ixrec will be done with it quickly

>>3720640
I loved Asuseka, it can fight back with awesome art and music. Also protag.

>>3720640
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm6738590

>>3720642
He is doing it fast, what's your problem?

>>3720642
Nobody ever said that about Inganock. In fact, I don't think anybody knows who voted for Inganock.

>>3720642
Swan song is really good though.

Still not voting for it, as I have other things on my list.

Ixrec said he won't start reading Alternative until Inganock's translation is finished (which won't take long anyway), if anyone cares.

So, no date for the poll yet ?

>>3720666

It was a single fag with a botnet.

>>3720694
Ixrec deleted the votes from bots, and most were for Bald.

>>3720703
bot != shitty web proxy

>>3720703
Actually, HoshiMemo got more proxyvotes than the rest.

>>3720682
Do you think Icksrek will fix the graphics as well as the text? That doesn't look so good...

>>3720733
they can only insert text so anykind of image editing isnt possible

>>3720755
Okay, I will fix some tools. A good artist is needed too, any volunteers?

Muv Luv Alternative is terrible, get over it. An inflated EGS score doesnt make it good.

>>3720703
You can't delete votes from bot networks be it real bots or humanoid bots if you know what I mean

>>3720733
You've seen nothing of "bad graphics" until you hit AF.

>>3720733
The game may have an aliasing feature for the sprites (seriously, damn rUGP has like 10000 functions), but the menu is in japanese so I don't know if it that option even exists. It looks pretty neat from what I've seen anyway, don't worry.

>>3720666
Inganock won because they got votes from:
1. Those who avoid Dive1, GSS, and Swan Song due to bitchfest
2. Those who want to vote for Shikkoku no Sharnoth
3. Those who trollvote (it's Furry Disney it can't win)

Right now everyone is getting to familiarize themselves with the other big candidate and are getting tired of drama. So it's all up to rallying thread like this to do its job. I'm sure that whatever wins /jp/ will do less bitching (no wai) compared to previous poll result.

>>3720783
Don't forget the votes from those who, you know, actually like it.

>>3720773
Uh, what?

>>3720812
Lol. The trolling aftermath makes me forget that such group of voters exist.

>>3720831
Do you know what a botnet is?

>>3720783
The fact is, reason Inganock got so many votes is that two people rallied half of the internet to vote for it. Go ask in Ammy's channel and I imagine they will just admit it.

>>3720854
They did admit to it, and Ixrec had no problem with it. I don't really see the problem, but I don't care about this voting anyway.

>>3720852
I do, but to say that you cannot remove votes from a botnet is simply stupid.

>>3720783
It won only because of bot votes. Liar-Soft is not and never was /jp/ related, only some 2ch browsing disney fags liked it

Yeah, so all these muvluv cgs... not really helping the cause. I am not finding anything greatly appealing here.

>>3720864
Lies, the Japanese only like the Real Deal.

>>3720854
>rallied half of the internet to vote for it.
That's the point isn't it?

>>3720862

Well then tell us how to do it, but remember without changing the voting system as of now.

>Liar-Soft is not and never was /jp/ related
Let me guess, you voted for Baldr?

>>3720864
I voted for it.
Seemed appealing.
And what kind if faggot dictates what VN companies are related or not?

>>3720899
Disney isn't related.

>>3720882
If you mean that the point is that the whole poll thing is being completely pointless, then I have to agree

>>3720906
Well, good think it's a porn game by a company called Liar-soft then.

>>3720913
>He plays VN for PORN.

>>3720896
GSS

>>3720928
It's an adult game no matter what.
>>3720930
So, you have shitty taste. That explains it.

>>3720930
Cool story bro. I voted for Swan Song

>>3720935
GSS > Ingacock

>>3720930
I, for one, respect your choice. Still, that doesn't make Inganock bad.

>>3720875
Those are not CG, just random screencaps that I took of the first scenes of the game. I don't want to get myself spoiled so if you want to see them download a CGrip or something.

Quick tip for anyone rallying Alternative at other sites, use quotes from TakaJun's review, and point out he is the translator of F/SN.

>>3720955
Porn... with that art... Jesus P. Christ! *throws up all over /jp/*

>>3720947
It's called Inganock.
And GSS is not even the best Black Cyc VN.

>>3720875
Check Reika Bitch Training's CGs, it's really pretty and shiny. I hope you too will vote for that instead.

>>3720979
> Reika Bitch Training
Due to all our tactical voting, that will probably win because all normalfags will vote for it ;_;

>>3720970
It's the only Black Cyc title that has Gore, though.

I wish it had more of him, though. It's his goddamn show, after all.

>>3720961
>Quick tip for anyone rallying Alternative at other sites, use quotes from TakaJun's review, and point out he is the translator of F/SN.
>Eroge Review (15): Kazoku Keikaku
>Overall score: 9.5/10

Auto-saged. New thread is here: >>3720992

>>3720864
Giga and age was never /jp/ related, only retarted /m/ fags like baldr sky and muv-luv
Le Chocolate was never /jp/ related, only retared emo fags like Swan Song