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>>If samurais and knights got into a fight who would win?
The pirates and vikings.

Can you add some ninjas and vikings and gladiators and shit? I can't get off to only two participants.

Knights.
Superior armour, superior weaponry, superior support.

samurais, better swordman

If Age of Empires 2 has taught me anything then both would fall to the power of the Teutonic Knights or possibly Cataphracts.

>>3715676
No, the Eagle warrior caste would win, faggot.

>>3715692
>superior weaponry
but katanas can cut through solid steel

Dog Airbone Infantry would win.

Where do the Mongols fit into this?

>>3715707
A katana can easily bisect a fully armored knight.

>>3715733
Mangudais are useless.

>>3715661
We've went over this, they aren't fighting. They're buddy cops.

He's an old cynical samurai who's become disenfranchised with the dynasties and nobility

He's a young gung-ho knight trying to reconcile what he learned about law with the corrupt vassals who run it

THEY FIGHT CRIME!

Minamoto & Hendrick:
ON THE EDGE.

*both of them crash through a window riding a 1985 Transam*

Shaka: (large, cigar-chewing Zulu warrior): THAT'S ENOUGH! YOU'RE BOTH LOOSE CANNONS! HAND IN YOUR BADGES AND SWORDS, NOW!
Minamoto: I cannot part with my wakizashi, sire. It symbolizes--
Shaka: IT SYMBOLIZES MY FOOT IN YOUR ASS IF YOU DON'T HAND IT OVER RIGHT NOW!

Knights....from what century? Depending on the answer, the outcome may change drastically.

Both call for their peasants to fight in their place.

>>3715745
Hendrick: So we're off the case. Nice job, Mina. We could've caught the guy if you hadn't tried to duel him in front of his entire gang.
Minamoto: You may go and engage in bawdy activities with your honorable mother.
Hendrick: Did you just call me a motherfucker?
Minamoto: I think I did, yes.
Hendrick: I hate when you do that.
Minamoto: I know you do.
Hendrick: Let's hit Ivan's Bar, now. I've got a couple of questions for the crazy Cossack.
Minamoto: I thought we were off this case...?
Hendrick: Of course. But he doesn't know that.
*driving montage*

>>3715743
That's what my siege rams thought.

>>3715757
Where were your Champions?

>>3715751
> Knights....from what century? Depending on the answer, the outcome may change drastically.
19th century.

In Age of Empires 2 knights are more powerful.

Maori warrior wins.

>>3715768
>using Champions against Mangudai
Think about it for a couple seconds.

The fencer wins. 13 foot lunges and whatnot.

Ninjas win. They have crazy rasengans and all that shit.

>>3715809
Send the Huskarl!

>>3715813
Attack of Opportunity?

>>3715785
A Samurai will defeat a Teutonic Knight, but an Elite TK will kill an Elite Samurai.

>>3715750
I'd watch it.

>Superior armour (only in melee, samurai's armor tends to be more efficient at deflecting arrows, and even better against bullets, heck, even leather armors where better than full plates against bullets), HEAVIER weaponry (greatswords don't have the cutting power of katana, but if a greatsword touch a katana, the latter is fucked), same support (but samurais are better trained with bows than knights).
Fixed, basically, if a knight engage a samurai in melee, the odds are against the latter, but in a bow fight, a samurai will pin the fucker down.

>>3715661
Man, feels like it's been ages since we had this.

>>3715948
Arrows don't tend to do so well against the chainmail underneath the plate, you know?

The trolls?

>>3715948
>a bow fight, a samurai will pin the fucker down.
Knights weren't trained for bows.
It's like giving a spear to an archer, and tell him to defend the front lines.

Though if knights have their mount, which they should, because they're, you know, KNIGHTS, they can easily flank bowmen.

maybe the samurais, but fucking no one would be able to defeat the Vikings on a good day, not even Genghis Khan

>>3715966
Say that to the french knights who where heavily fucked by the english longbowmen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4gPgHyaG1Q

>>3715966
Then it's crossbow bolt to the face.

Guys, what if the knight got the samurai's katana?

Guys, what if the knight got the samurai's katana?

>>3715948
>even leather armors where better than full plates against bullets
Which is why full-plate style breastplates were in use right up 'till world war one as a defence against bullets, right?

>HEAVIER weaponry (greatswords don't have the cutting power of katana, but if a greatsword touch a katana, the latter is fucked)
>Heavier
About the same weight
>Don't have the cutting power
Wrong.
>Implying that the greatsword was the knight's standard weapon, and that the katana was a samurai's
Lol.

>same support
English Longbow. Do I need to say more? (The answer is "fuck no I don't.")

>>3715966

Agreed, it takes a bow with a really strong pull and a well-made arrowhead to go through plate at any range beyond point-blank.

>>3715697
Are we assuming average samurai and average knight? Is it a knight who inherited the title, or a knight who earned it through battle? Or is it a knight who just got it because he was a really popular singer?

The latter might not do so well against a samurai.

>>3716011
>Implying that Japanese archers were anywhere near on the level of an English Longbowman

Oh gods, I've never laughed so hard in my life.

>>3715705
fuck, aztec warriors are in a class of their own.
the laughing stock of warrior culture

>>3716025
I meant arrows having trouble with chain, not plate ;_;

>>3716025
ITT
Paul Mcartney Vs. Miyamoto Musashi

>>3716011
British Longbowmen were special.

Why does /jp/ have threads about this so often? Do you guys know anything about history besides ancient militaries?

>>3716045
fuck even Paul mcartney's Wings band would kick any Jpop band's ass

>>3716045


They don't even know shit about ancient militaries. You always get these dumb fucks who think that swords were a primary weapon, and all the other BS that movies feed you.

>>3715661
The Mexicans.

they'd just take all the jobs. Knights and Samurai would be unable to afford their fancy armor and weaponry anymore.

>>3716028

Obsidian weapons sucked ass. It only worked well against other tribes. Also, they had almost no armor and were geniouses to make the leader a fancy plumed faggot who is a perfect target against enemy artillery. No wonder Cortéz fucked them up with a handful of knights and some enemy tribes. (And of course the Pox)

>>3716057
this is one one one brah, like Lancelot vs. Miyamoto

>>3715809
Yeah, I didn't really read and was thinking about anti-siege units instead of anti-cavalry.
┐(´ー｀)┌

>>3716011
You do realise the main damage done to the French army is due to the French nobles being retarded enough to charge through muddy grounds right?

Heavy armour and mud don't play well, so they get hammer to the face after they fell and couldn't get up.

>>3716079

Well, Lancelot could easily fuck Sasaki Kojiro, since he's such a puny servant. Guess Musashi might be some kind of hybrid servant.

>>3716098

fuck Lancelot could take down the Shogun, and that's when Shoguns actually did stuff, except grow fat

Now Lancelot Vs. a Ninja, that could be a serious problem

>If samurais and knights got into a fight who would win?

The Mongols.

>>3716129
It's been established that mongols couldn't beat Goths, much less a Viking and even less a Knight

>but in a bow fight, a samurai will pin the fucker down.
Bullshit, a well-trained knight can close the gap in mere seconds, pic obviously related.

>>3715661
fuck your /a/ shit.

>>3716151
A samurai can fire ten arrows per second, and each can pierce ten fully armored knights at once because they aim for the pressure points of the armor.

>>3716141
The Mongols would've beaten the shit out of all of them. At the same time.

Musashi wasn't as much a samurai as he was a troll. Samurai were about burning villages and killing peasants just because they were ordered to (or they felt like it, but getting away with that was a bit difficult. ) Musashi was about beating people up with an oar.

>>3716157
You are watching too much anime.

>>3716172

on even ground, Samurai.

On steps, knights.

>>3716160

you poor, deluded, asiaphile

>>3716195
Looks like drawn by the guys that did White Ninja

>>3716215
It's not that I particularly love the Mongols, it's just that they were that badass.

>>3716242
except, they weren't

>>3716237

Whoever it is, I love them.

>>3716251
They conquered an enormous part of the known world, and were only stopped when their leaders simply died and they fell to succession fights/factionalization.

The Europeans of the time shat their pants at the prospect of fighting the Mongols, and this was while the Mongols were already busy fighting both Chinese remnants and the Persians/Arabs.

>>3716213
On steppes, Mongols.

>>3716270
Kate Beaton drew these.

http://www.harkavagrant.com/

Also, white ninja isn't funny.

>>3716285
Europeans of that time shat their pants with everything, they kept believing the end of the world was near, so they couldn't get their head out of their asses

>>3716304
More like they were pretty much at a lower societal and technological level than the "barbarians" they feared. Muslims, Mongols, Vikings, etc.

All of them were pretty much superior, especially the Caliphate.

>>3716294
I love her facial expressions so much.

>>3716294

Thanks

Knight wins.

>>3716141
>implying mongols couldnt beat goths

the sandniggers smashed whatever remained of the goths in spain and guess who gave the sandniggers the biggest pile of "OH FUCK" they've ever gotten? the mongols

>>3715692
/thread

Anyone who argues with it is a fool. A katana will not even cut chainmail, let alone plate.

I don't think some of you realize how powerful katanas are.

They are the strongest metal (even tougher than diamond), and it's not rare for blacksmiths to fold them over a million times.

A knight would not be able to beat even a low tier Samurai if he has a good katana.

>>3716735
>They are the strongest metal
>(even tougher than diamond)

You seem to be implying that diamond is a metal, which is just crazy.

>>3716703
What? They can cut tank easily.

>>3716738
You seem to be implying that he isn't a shitty troll.

>>3716738
Flipping hamburgers doesn't leave you much time to browse the internet, does it ?

>>3716738

Diamond is the strongest metal known the man.

>>3716738
But diamond is the strongest metal! If a diamond car run into a diamond wall at high speed...etc.

Oh, how I miss the times when quotes like that were amusing.