/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Reminder that subtitles were added to the voice clips in the journal now! Go find a line you really like that you couldn't understand before and post it!

I will never spend a dollar on lost word

>>36696965
This is the battle voiceline I love most.

>>36697208
Why not

>>36697208

>>36697401
Good boy

Black Youmu tumbling down...

>>36697883
Rumia is as strong as a super FES! And she's much cuter! Great job Rumia!

>>36697883
What is special about Merlin to warrant her A+ placement?

The latest event on Global is so hard to farm wtf? And no I am not gonna waste dolls on Nig-Youmu when better SuperFes is likely coming next month.

>>36697916
>Major overhall to the rating system. All character tiers and ratings have been adjusted accordingly. Overall is based off of 1T damage (double the weight), full damage, utility, breaking.

It is honestly hard to tell with that list because it lacks really in-depth commentary. I guess it's because she lowers yang defense, dodge and inflicts freeze? Not putting Yuuka really high is already extremely strange. Same with Loliyuko who has the 2nd highest turn 1 damage in the entire game yet is somehow super low depsite 1T damage apparently being double the weight.

I get unreasonably upset every time Sanae's shop doesn't have any cubes.
Useless slug!

>>36696965
Ran...

Why does Reimu have to be the worst Super-Fes? She's the only one I find remotely interesting.

>>36698106
What does the fox say?

>>36698163

>>36698205
Get out of here, Tsukasa.

>>36696965
Holy shit if you skipped Byakuren because she's not a meta pick you missed out big time, these are fantastic

Is this event scroll drop rate better than last event? I feel like it is but need some confirmation.

And it has tiger scroll drop too. Hell yes!

>>36697208
Spent 6 dollars total on Lost word.

>>36698163
It's "Kuooh"
Don't know why they called it fox noises.
Pic related is Koishi at the start of battle.

>>36697920
Which stage are you trying to farm? Suika one shots the Ravis really easy so I haven't had issues yet.

>>36698695
I love this crazy psycho

>>36698237
Speaking of hags...

Okuu has elemental advantage over the lunarians in the final stage of the jap event which amuses me greatly.

Is it worth MLBing Kasen and Flan? I have MLB Reimu, Remi, Ran, Youmu, Eirin, Yuyuko and Medicine

>>36700048
Flan is a complete meme who needs an entire team to do anything, Kasen does well enough but is limited to single targets.

>>36699244
Boobs too heavy

I still regret using Paper Dolls on Youmu at the start of the game and the game is making it worse by giving me so many dupes of her that i could make a 2nd MLB Youmu.

>>36701643
Same but I already got over it a while back. I wouldn't have a proper footing at the start if I haven't used my dolls on the Youmu I rerolled for. Extra dupes of general pool 2hus are just part and parcel of this game.

>>36701643
Same with Patchi, Ran and Alice, tho i never used dolls on alice

>>36697208
Never will I pay up my shekels. These are reserved for the Fumos I will be buying.

>>36697883
Why is Rojo only A+ ? This is bullshit

>>36699730
She looks like she's having so much fun. Global when?

>>36701643
I used dolls on Youmu, Ran and then Medicine. They carried my game for months until I got Suika and others. No real regrets, but getting dupes of them still feels kinda disappointing.

>>36700048
Kasen is useless gameplay, only good for her music theme. Flan is also poor gameplay, only good for her cute and funny

OH YEAH? Well I think... I think Nemuno is cute!

>>36703408
They made this mountain redneck way cooler than she has to be (which is a good thing to me)

Religious wave

Fuck, do I have to pull donutsteel Youmu? Is she THAT good or can I skip her entirely? I'd rather save my shit for something I actually want.

>>36704348
She's the worst ultra FES.

Why is Youmu black

>>36704389
Never heard of Shaman Reimu?

She´s bad, but still better than most regular and FES units.

>>36704455
Cause she decided to become a metalhead. Best thing ever.

Do they do reruns of general pool units? I really, really want Tewi.

>Single wave stage enemies can survive 3-star Red Marisa's LW
>Can't try to bank on on my single target LW friends because there's two of them
>Only reliable grinding character is Suika

This is rough.

>>36704894
>Only reliable grinding character is Suika
Yeah same. Okina would be able to farm the rabbits who are weak to star, but she needs like 10 more days of training

>>36704894
Who are you quoting?

>>36705117

>>36704845
Yeah, especially when tower is around. It's almost always rerun time then.

Marisa is so, so, so close to being able to farm Reisen and Seiran on lvl90, but she's not reliable enough no matter what I stack on her. To make it worse this event has that 'The Witch Summit' card that I'm guessing will give her 15% on her 12 star bullets and 15% on her 11 normal bullets. Which will probably make EXACTLY the same damage as using Lively Temple Grounds or Behind the Firepower, but I won't be sure until I MLB it and waste my tiles on it. If only I wasn't bothered about using 8SP instead of 7SP I would avoid this suffering.
>>36704894
I am farming the rabbits easily with Youmu using Marisa Red's card first, and then her LW, my green friend

>>36704348
You don't need to. General rule is if you're a f2p player, you are able to MLB 1 superfes unit. Either use those dolls on Rojo or Mecha Marisa later on.
Youmu is very good at breaking barriers. Metal, wood, fire, paralysis, burning. She still hits harder than 99% of the cast at the moment, but drops as more new units come out (probably when we reach japan's current meta). I'm leaving her at lv90 just for her barrier breaking ability in tower.

>>36704894
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one having trouble with this. No one but Suika can beat the Ravis and only her and Toyohime can beat the autumn sisters. Not even maxed Youmu with maxed black Youmu card can do it. It's crazy.

So any reason to do these if I have a lvl 100 Reisen already? Do they unlock anymore missions? Rather not waste a doll if I can help it.

>>36705906
Nope that's a pure scam

>>36705918
Thought so, guessing I can also get rid of the free Medicine as well since I don't need her either.

Is Yuuka still the queen of the JP meta or has she been surpassed?

>>36705962
Skater Marisa is by far the best character in the game right now. She is so absurdly strong that she can full auto Red Marisa in 1 turn despite Red Marisa resisting her elements and being immune to burn.

>>36697883
Link to the full list?

>>36706047
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ilgWbCQgIBlfCW0Yz5RPzTPX0R9h9MYUA5LoH7Sjxto/htmlview#

>>36706059
Thanks

I am having absolutely no luck getting any story card drops in the current jap event.

>>36697883
dem trolls fucking the tier lists up lmao

>>36697883
What makes Cyber Reimu so much worse than the rest of the Cyberhu's?

>>36707009
Defense focused.

Kasen is a FES character, right? Did she ever have a dedicated banner in EN?

>>36707092
She had one with Yukari near the beginning, and ha been in several 72 hour special banners. Additionally she'll certainly get a rerun when >>36707093 happens.

>>36707093
Old hag Yukari finally getting married! maybe one of those dried up eggs potentially still work!

I like Youmu but I'm hesitant to use my divine paper dolls on her dork version because I'm not sure how's she like in the story and they're super fucking rare but on the other hand I don't really like any of the other super FES 2hus and I might not have enough paper dolls when they come

>>36707992
HOW MANY do you have right now? Rainbowdolls, i mean.
Maybe wait for the mecha-Dork then later on?

>>36708132
I have 3 and I think I'm only at floor 25 in the tower, I'm not sure about cyber dork either I'd like to see her personality first

>>36707093
I really hope they add Remi soonish

>>36707093
Yukari was done dirty. The hermit looks good though.

>>36707093
Why is that tiger so surprised to see Kasen wearing white? And whose' arms are going through those gaps?

>>36705986
So what is the secret to Mecha Marisa's absurd damage? Mirror bullets? I checked the JP wiki and her skills seem to be focused on boosting crit damage but there is nothing to explain her ability to kill Lunatic Red Marisa like that.

>>36708483
She has maxed out attack and a stage 7 crit damage buff with the Marisa card in addition to the laser damage increase and having slayers against fairies and magicians.

>>36708483
What >>36708707 said, and also her LW has a 1-3-1 format, she has a 1.5 P buff, and enough of an accuracy buff to always hit. Plus the effective damage vs Magicians means she automatically gets crits, which are then boosted by her crit atk.

>>36708707
Oh that explains it. 7 levels of crit work out to 4.1x damage which is about the same as full break damage. And would you happen to know what mirror bullets do? Kinda curious if it has some effect that further contributes to Mecha Marisa's damage output.

>>36709004
It's like Psystrike from Pokemon in that it uses the other defense stat for damage calculations. This means that Marisa can use the debuff from burning to boost her damage even though she uses the wrong attack type. The only character who can even outdamage Marisa with all of her effects working is Hecatia with 1 very specific card.

>>36708444
>And whose' arms are going through those gaps?
You don't want to know.

>>36709034
Thanks anon. And wow that's just super loaded. Vanilla Marisa is still wallowing in bad gameplay land while both her variants dominate the meta. Kinda sad when you think about it.

>>36709348
Has anybody in Lost Word got a notable buff besides Meiling? I mean Sakuya is still shit and she's one of the most popular characters.

>>36709458
Kasen and Yukari

>>36709348
I'm sure it's intentional. If base Marisa is bad, it makes her alts more appealing. Probably why a ton of early characters have gotten buffs, however minor, except Marisa.

>>36709458
https://altema.jp/lostword/jouhousyuusei

>>36709494
>https://altema.jp/lostword/jouhousyuusei
Did NA already have these buffs? I know they made a big deal about Meiling buff.

>>36709508
Yes. You can tell because Yukari already had the earth on her focus shot at launch. Another example is Sakuya having 80 base accuracy instead of 75.

>>36709547
Oh nice, too bad Sakuya is still trash

>>36707093
yukari is getting a reincarnation and her best skin is still not on sale

The drag animation was cute for this section of the event.

>>36709809
I really wish they'd release it so I could have her on my home screen permanently.

yuyuko is very tame this time around compared to the other event

>>36709896
not event but the original story. yuyuko will do anything to eat the cubes

This event's writing has been pretty great, especially when Sakuya had her Ratatouille moment.

The event is so Shokugeki no Soma, I love it. Too bad the girls' clothing aren't exploding off from the food!

I like the event but I wish the devs stopped sticking Nitori and Aya into everything. How is Yuyuko who's whole character revolves around being a glutton, not the main host for a cooking contest?

>>36710145
Takane and Hatate hands made this post.

Wish we had a gallery, or a way to see each character's different poses.

Reimu's team would have lost if Sakuya didn't give up.

Are all the event SCs going to be worthless?

200 story cards. When does a friend show up before pity?

I don't give a fuck about edgy dork, just give me Miko already

Since there are no microorganisms in the netherworld, it would be a great place for hospital work huh?

I've used six of the guaranteed friend cards since the pool got expanded, and three of them gave me Marisa.
Is the game trying to tell me something?

>>36710980
Yes

>>36710816
If it makes you feel better, the odds of this happening are roughly 0.0035%. You have a better chance of rolling three friends in a row on single rolls. So if you think about it, you're actually really lucky.

>>36710922
You make a great point. If only there was a way to get all the sick and injured people into the Netherworld.

>>36711713
I know a quick and easy way.

You motherfuckers weren't kidding she does speak like a hillbilly lmao

Goddamn, fuck these hp pools on lunatic. Regular mobs should not be tanking 3p last words that have element advantage.

>>36710440
No, the one from the Seiga event is the best card for multiple characters because it raises fire damage and crit damage.

This spoder looks pretty cute...

>>36701643
i never regret desu, ran is a great farmer and very useful to me in the tower

>>36712950
Is it just me or does this event has WAY more event stages than the last ones per day?
I mean doing all of the stuff for today minus grinding took me 90 minutes this morning. Usually i was done for story parts after a maximum of 20-25 minutes...

Also why tf are the healthpools so big? I want to grind the new Sakuya/Meiling Stage for Dragonscrolls, yet none of my units can solo it with their LW, at all.
am i fated to throw Toyohime at the autumn sisters during the whole day again?

On the pluss ide, 300k coins in the event shop first wave is nice. i´ll be back at 800k after sparking the black youmu dupe and will most likely hit the million on second wave. Nice. 1126 cubes again too as of now.

>>36714742
Nah this event is just plain unfriendly to casual players. Hopefully the next ones are easier to auto-farm.

>>36714753
Maybe we´ll get a single boss at the end again. i love to grind the last stage for story cards to convert directly into tokens.

>>36714742
You may want to check again. The new coin stacks are 999 stacks of 10 coins each. It's ~20000 coins for 1098900 points.

>>36714831
why did they change it to something like this? Its weird

How do i get my account back after changing phones? I do have the account linked to facebook but when i press the link button in the title screen it gives me a permission error or something like that

>>36715127
...theres this thing called Transfer Code. You need to generate that on your account, and transfer the account with this code over to the new phone

you even got a task telling you to do it.

>>36714894
Probably to appeal to the heavy grinders who have a lot of leftover points even after exchanging everything during previous events while making sure that casuals won't feel missed out on rewards by making them rather miniscule.

>>36715344
Im not that of a heavy grinder and i have around 500k left over every event...

This is just flatout stupid. I thought "Hey, they give more coins because its a superFES unit this time, maybe they noticed that people complained about not having enough coins with marisa rojo" but damn.

>>36715402
So am I but I guess they don't want casuals to whine about having to grind for an extra stack of 99000 coins. Leftover event points are usually left to rot anyway so being able to grab some extra coins is fine with me.

>>36707093
>>36707134
Do we have any indication what day that will start, because I did not realize goth Youmu needed 250 and not 150 prayers until I was already too deep, and if they start a rerun banner before the current one ends I will look very foolish.

>>36716312
It says October and there should be a maintenance for the 2nd part of the event on October 1st so it should be around then.

>>36717792
Thank you! It's stupid to have already sunk 190 prayers on Youmu's banner, but I care a lot more about Yukari, and I should be able to scrounge up the necessary 750 crystals for her if I stop praying on for Youmu now.

Lessons learned, always double check the actual cost of sparks!

>>36717915
I try to have at least 1250 in the bank at all times, so if a suprise Yuuka appears i can spark Mommy for sure

man i'm completely lost about what the fuck they talk about in the event, i have zero idea about actual serious cooking

>>36719275
i half-way get it and i regularily cook for my family.

I didnt get the cheesecake part completely tho...

>>36719414
Eh, they made cheese, and then denser cheese instead of dought for the "cheesecake".
In the end it was only cheese. The lastest stage was basically not cooking at all on either side.
I'm sure the sake they were given would've been enough to cover the fermented food requirement.
Frankly them finding enough rice inside bamboo was the bigger asspull.

>>36719712
Where did they get the cheese?

>>36719712
sparrow sake is a famous folktale, so of course they´d go with it.

>>36719789
Self-made fromo the milk that sakuya snatched at the beginning. Meiling was pounding it with heat and rotation, adding lemon and vinegar to make it thicken.

This event is why I don't like cooking competition based media. As they keep going there's no way to make the food sound good without being repetitive. I can only hear "the x complements the y" and "it melts in my mouth!" so many times before it doesn't sound impressive anymore.

>>36719801
>Meiling was pounding it with heat and rotation, adding lemon and vinegar to make it thicken.
That's not at all how to make cheese

>>36719822
You cant have it ferment in the netherworld, since there are no microorganisms there, no bacteria and anything. So i guess she just cooked it somehow to get rid of the moisture? I dunno, im no cheesemaker, and im certainly not a Quigong Chinawoman in a magical mystical netherworld in gensokyo

certified cube moment

>>36720719
how come this never happens to me on global

>>36719822
It's more of a pseudo cheese, since no fermentation in the netherworld. As long as they hit the cheese criteria the dish is valid.

Geez, (Me) is really thirsty about Sakuya, at every given chance. Makes it easy to self-insert

>>36721328
Well, Sakuya is a capable beautiful human. Of course (Me) is selfinserting

>>36721328
Sakuya is absolutely going to be the canon route. God I want to be Sakuya's princess.

>>36721404
Its weird.

You have two conversation options. Both sound like a single answer, yet you have to choose. But the choice never matters since the type of convo isnt altered by whatever you choose

>>36719822
There's hundreds of kinds of cheese, but you're right in that the result of that would be more like cream than cheese. You can do it yourself, add some lemon juice to milk and wait, it'll start forming grumps which I guess they could consider cheese.

>>36721328
>>36721404
Man Sakuya is winning (You) bowl like it's nothing. She isn't even trying and yet she gets (Your) panties so wet, they put the Misty Lake to shame.

>>36721434
Honestly I prefer it over gachashit that makes you choose between two variations of the exact same answer. It's at least more honest about the fact that it's not a real choice.

how different are the drop rates from hard to lunatic? am i missing that many drops? i just want to be able to auto

>>36714742
Not a JP player, but I think this was the first event that the chapters were released daily instead of all at once. That's definitely why they're longer than usual, and it may be why the enemy health is so different.

>>36721988
I can't give you exact numbers, but I do the drop rates for hard are worse. Just full-auto the Reisen/Seiran stage with non-MLB Metal/Star units. They share their weakness so it's much easier to break their barriers.

I have 19 Lv. 100 units, how are you guys at?

>>36721434
The illusion of choice

>>36722494
7

>>36722494
2

>>36722494
62

Enemies in this event are surprisingly tanky, the only friends i have that can farm the last stage effectively are Meiling and Suika...

>>36722640
JP?

Is Meiling worth MLB now? I just got Tewi off of the friend ritual and figure she is going to want it too.

>>36722655
Worth it? Yeah.
Worth spending paper dolls on if you don't love her? Not really.
Her buff made her go from useless to useful, not meta-defining.

>>36722655
She's about on par with Yuyuko, maybe a tiny bit weaker. MLB her if you like her, otherwise wait until you get some copies.

>>36722643
Yes, I have even more units with their LW unlocked but they are not at lvl 100.

>>36722694
I generally never pull since I'm waiting for 2 characters who likely won't appear for a long time so should I really just wait for her to spook me on friend rituals or daily rolls?

>>36722726
Well, that depends. Do you need a farmer right now? Do you like her as a character? If so, might as well MLB her then.

>>36722787
I'm not particularly fond of her, but like I said there are only 2 characters I care to invest in and they won't be for a while so I figure I might as well build some other strong units in the interim. It's more about strength than favor at this point.

>>36722933
I see. Gameplay wise she is a good choice for farming, her LW hits hard and has a very short animation, so that's a good thing. For tower she also has plenty of elemental breaks, including a 0P cost earth break for her strong attack, which is always neat. You can probably get a ton of use out of her, so go ahead and MLB her, since you aren't planning on pulling for a while.

>>36723009
I think I'll focus on her and Tewi and leave it at that for a while. Thank you anon.

>>36709458
Kasen, Yukari, and Reimu all got notable buffs. Launch Reimu was dogshit.

>>36721328
>>36721404
I got Sakuya as my fated character when I stated the game, so I appreciate this...makes it feel more personal somehow.

Why are there so many stages in just the first couple days of this event? It's a pain in the ass especially considering how strong the enemies are on Lunatic.

>>36723594
See >>36722115 except I looked into it and this was definitely the first event that was timegated
https://wikiwiki.jp/toho_lw/幻想小料理屋 ねむの木

holy shit i want to ravage tewi while she's wearing that costume

I just found out that, on a character's details page, if you click a spell card then click the spell card imagine on the left, you can get a whole lore dump about the character's spell card. Why do they hide all of this stuff so much?

Had to whip out my tower comp for the last lunatic node just to get 3 stars. This event is something else alright.

Well, I'm glad they finally addressed the bullshit that was Buddhists eating meat this event, even if their excuse was bullshit.

>>36724367
its hard to get protein when you're buddhist

All this time I was confident that Toyohime LW would carry me everywhere. I was wrong.

>>36724466
It's this only event that was bloody awful overall in JP and now in Global, the enemies have bloated HP. The next ones should be better.

>>36723646
holy shit i want to ravage tewi

I want to eat Tewi

>>36724862
Hi Sanae.

I think people overstated how "hard" this event would be but I've been playing since day 2 and have a pretty loaded set of 2hus and it was still kind of annoying towards the end. Sure am glad I'm done with all that and I can go back to autoing Meiling/Sakuya until the next story drop increase.

>>36724889
Nobody ever said this event was hard difficulty-wise. It's hard to farm efficiently i.e. <8sp on Lunatic nodes due to enemies' bloated HP.

>>36724950
Is over 8sp really that awful?

>>36724889
I'd say it was definitely hard, I had to bring out a full tower team with Youmu/Suika/Toyohime for Koishi and the tengu trash, plus the Medicine/Eirin/Yuyuko full break and nuke setup for the triple 2hu finale.

>>36724976
I don't obsess over SP but I'm also not looking to spend more SP than necessary to farm an event. The 8sp/Lunatic run has always been the gold standard since the first event.

>>36725095
thats why theres 3 stamina in the shop. we are meant to go all out this time around

Used Yori/Suika/Rojo on last node.
Solo spellcards on Koishi, whatever remaining spellcards on the 2nd wave, brute forced the last wave with all 3 LWs.

>Used Yori/Suika/Rojo on last node.
>Solo spellcards on Koishi, whatever remaining spellcards on the 2nd wave, brute forced the last wave with all 3 LWs.

>>36725588
Too green. Also, go back to whatever shithole you came from.

>>36724795
Holy shit, I want to punt tewi of a cliff.

I think I missed a day of the rebirth event.
Fuck.

>>36726180
The event stamp? It runs through the 27th of October. You’re good.

>>36722515
Illusion of choice In the land of illusion, how fitting.

>>36724862
Yuyuko, behave

Now that all the stages dropped, which ones are you grinding on for points?
What units do you use?

Also fuck the last stage, this shit is ridiculous. I needed a full team of 6 MLB to bomb this shit away...

>>36727715
Autumn Sisters with 8sp Toyohime and Seiran/Ringo with 8sp Dark Youmu.

>>36727715
Autumn Sisters with 8sp Toyohime and Seiran/Ringo with 8sp Dark Youmu. Both at Lunatic difficulty since my main goal is farming gold tiles.

>>36727761
Mlb youmu?

>>36727810
Unawakened MLB Dark Youmu.

>>36727842
I have 4 Rainbow dolls and my youmu is capped at level 80, unsure if I should MLB her.... I have no Marisa rojo

This event was really short, wasn't it?

>>36727860
Rainbow dolls are super rare so it's all up to whether you like Emo Dork enough to use those dolls on her. I like her and it's fun to look at her shred enemies with this Ultra Dork setup.

Yes, yes, well done, Sanae, well done, Sanae... HOWEVER

>>36727925
That's a lot of myons.

Will the next banner be the yorigami sisters?

This is probably an error, but it looks funny

What's the best stage to farm given the enemies' bloated health?

>>36730476
The first one.

Ok, what is with the constant shifting on the tier list, it got a major overhaul 2 days ago but now it's been overhauled again and now Black Youmu is above Loli Yuyuko and 4 tiers above Toyohime, while some previously B-tier range characters like Koishi are now above that?

>>36730643
The "Black Youmu is the worst superfes" meme sure is short-lived.

The should add some more general pool units. It’s been FES after FES, and I’m tired of getting dupes of the same few friends.

>>36730805
I still lack Tewi and kosuzu from the general pool.

only those two... and i got 3 sunny milk from my last prayers...

>>36730476
if you have a decently strong Suika she can oneshot both rabbits stages.

>>36727914
It feels short because they released way more stages each day, instead of less stages over a period of longer days. Honestly I preferred the other way, even if it means less stages to farm early; beating all the stages each day was a slog.

>>36730476
>>36727715
I use Toyohime and Yuyuko on the Autumn Sister stage

Suika on the Stay Alive survival cocking with Reisen and Seiran

>>36730643
What the fuck is up with all the S's ? Can't they use a normal Tier List ?

>>36731245
Because all the B and C units are shit like Byakuren and Joon.

>>36731421
So why not make an F tier for the likes of Seiran, Byakuren, and pre-buff Meiling?
There doesn't have to be 6 different S tiers.

>>36730643
Shit list

>>36730643
how tf is yorihime in the same tier as joon and hatate. i know she provides like zero team utility but her damage is so crazy it shouldn’t matter, i’ve had her solo high levels of the scarlet devil tower.

>>36727715
Suika solo and Red Mari+Reimu on the Lunatic Sakuya+Meiling stage.

>Also fuck the last stage, this shit is ridiculous. I needed a full team of 6 MLB to bomb this shit away...
I think that stage is the first time I ran 6 units outside of the tower just so I could have a fresh crew to break the last wave's barriers.

>>36727715
I'm just slapping the bunnies' shit with Suika

>>36727715
Just bully Aki sisters with Remi and slap bunnies' ass with Suika.

>>36732009
>>36731936
>>36731507
The tierlist is adjusting to the game's powercreep, nukers usually go down as characters with bigger damage arrive but characters with decent utility/breaking can keep up with the blatant powercreep in JP. I suppose lol.

>>36732199
Kasen is not better than Toyo. They need to condense like 2-3 rows of that list to the same level for it to make more sense

>>36732199
That tier list is just crumbling under its own weight because it wants to have way too many categories to judge characters with. Now characters who get a good score in some shit category get put high up next to characters who will actually see use. That's why the jap list from the OP and even the english wiki just have stuff like grinding and tower performance.

>>36723733
not just that, there's a lore dump for practically every item on their list, including their normal attacks and temperament

Imagine the awkwardness of having to prepare a rabbit stew for the cookoff and Tewi having to procure the ingredients by killing one of her own

>>36733311
I mean she already sells her own, what's a little murder?

youmu, meiling and reimu's charged last words
and not even fucking rumia died to them
what the fuck is this event

So is youmu negro good or not?

>>36733523
good in terms of all units

middle in terms of SuperFES

She has a lot of utility for element breaks and damage, but gets outclassed by Marisa, Yuyuko and the Mecha2hus.

She´s great for tower, but as all SuperFES needs a lot of care in form of the rainbowdolls.
Focus on 1-2 SuperFES to MLB if you´re not pumping additional money into the game (buying the 80 bucks boxes and shit)

>>36727715
Autumn sisters, bunnies, and SD employees.
Yori (2turn), Suika, Rojo/Akyuu.

man the event's last stage on lunatic is a bitch and a half, ended up running eirin as a healer to not fucking die

>>36733583
I had to go in with a full team of MLB units, switch out the first set in phase 2 without using their LWs, do a load of grazing and praying in the third wave with the second set until they got to 3 power, use their last words and then switch the first set back in and use their last words too and then I still only barely made it

>>36733486
>>36733583
For me it was Toyohime, Reimu, and Suika's 3 power maxed out last words and Joon survived it all with over half her health. I thought I was dead for sure but luckily Reimu has sun and Toyohime has water on their focus shots so they could just break her.

I had to retry a dozen times. I had more trouble with this than the tower.

>>36733523
She's a dork, Anon. A DORK!

>>36733678
Dorks are the best. Just the best.

only missing hecatia yuuka and sukuna of characters i like that i want. but that's gonna take a while anyways

>>36733712
Missing only the other half of my brain cell

I love this event's story but I fucking hate the stages themselves. I will buy all CD and dust and call it a day

>>36730643
>Koishi S-
Higher than toyo? You tell me she's not meta haha

>>36727715
Hard

>>36732009
Because they don't appreciate superior lunarian beauty

>>36732578
>>36733186
I've picked up some feedback in the past threads, and sent it to the group making the tierlist. They're planning to discard 1T dmg in favor of Farming ranking. 1T dmg is too objective, it doesn't fit in with the current content ingame because it doesn't define if an x character is good for farming, and 1T dmg is not suitable for Scarlet Devil Tower since high floors will have enemies with abilities/buffs/skills that favor Full dmg setups than just using brute force in a single turn. Let's hope if this changes anything, i'll come back later if some news appear.

>>36727715
Meiling/Sakuya with Suika while leveling Kaguya.

I just got my second Ring of Fate! I can have TWO wives/older sisters now!

>>36733583
I went in with full awoken maxed out Toyohime, Suika, and Scarlet Marisa, and was very surprised when it still wasn't over after all 3 of their Last Word, and Joon still had over 100,000 HP left.

>>36734950
In addition to being both beautiful and generous, Joon is also powerful!

Speaking of tiers, anyone know why Yamame is rated so highly? Is it just because her LW has slash bullets? She's got good offensive stuff otherwise, like yin atk buffs and a speed scaling all-target LW, but nothing that other characters don't have.

>>36734804
Were they factoring in effective damage or crits in general as part of their calculation? I assumed the reason Toyohime and others fell was because of that.

Okina's real banner when? I need her to complete my Nazrinland collection.

>>36735616
Anyone else think Yuyuko's cankles are really cute?

>>36735616
Maxing out Byakuren must've been painful. At least Kanako has some niche use... Byakuren desperately needs a buff.

>>36735616
Flatties die when they see this image.

>>36727715
10 and 2 for Dragon, Tiger and Plum.
My team consists of MLB Suika, Yuyuko and Toyohime.
Took awhile to figure out a team that could autofarm it. Was using MLB Suika, Doremy and Okina at first for training but those aren't so great for this event.

I know I'm just shouting into the void here but I wish a jp player would've given us a heads up on maxing out Marisa and Reimu first. If someone did I missed the boat.
I don't have the tokens or the story cards to max our Marisa currently and it suuuuuucks. My fault though.

>>36735680
She really does. Her skills, ability, and SC/LW all need a Meiling-level buff for her to be decent or at least worth using as a tank. I maxed her because I like her as a character from the main games but it's really hard to find a good use for Byakuren in this game.

>>36735616
You know there's another young popular maiden you could use instead of the cripple instead! Have her join your team! You won't regret it! Please!

>>36735754
Do you need a JP player to wipe your ass too? Global gave you a month's heads up that reincarnation was coming, and even before that people were talking about the latest JP characters to get reincarnated. Plus if you don't use Marisa enough to have her maxed out already, reincarnation will do nothing for you. Don't be a little bitch.

>>36735754
>My fault though.
>>36735841
I don't know who hurt you but it sure as hell wasn't me.
Go eat beans.

wow, the last stage on lunatic is anti-fun.

>>36735616
Why is Yuyuko grouped up with these characters? I kinda get the joke with the rest but what indication is there that Yuyuko is old besides the fact that she's usually depicted with sizable breasts?

>>36735961
She's Yukari's old friend

>>36735820
I like Yuuka and intend to get her but she doesn't quite fit the theme of "17-year-old head honchos of Gensokyo". All she does is hanging around her garden, tending to her flowers and minding her owm business.

>>36735961
She is, at minimum, 1000 years old. Yukari knew her when she was alive. Also she is fat.

>>36735988
She was one of the original ones though that got replaced by Byakuren since the Japanese like their 5s. Whenever a 6th one is added though she usually gets priority. And Eiki's main complaint about Yuuka's sin is that she's old.

>>36735616
Total power more like total age amirite.

>>36735616
Here

>>36736003
Well okay. I guess Yuuka and Okina can just share the 6th spot.

>>36735616
I think I don't have enough boobies now

>>36736043
that wouldn't even be 1/10th of Yukari's age

Neat.

>>36735594
ST and AoE Last Word damage are rated differently, because they're both tested against only 1 enemy ST LWs need to deal more damage to be rated higher, meanwhile the damage thresholds for AoE is lower. And also yeah, crits are factored in plus their BiS. Kasen's kit would be the dream for a 2020 Destruction unit (too bad her LW is mixed Body/Energy so she doesn't have a card that uses her full potential unlike other Destruction/Crit characters like Hecatia and Servant Sakuya), she can crit very easily and has high accuracy too. Toyohime on the other hand has 5% base crit chance in her entire LW so crit accuracy buffs and Elastic/Explosive barely helps her, plus can only get guaranteed crits vs Gensokyo enemies only (mob enemies doesn't count).

Do you guys do all the bonus x5 stages on each difficulty each reset?

>>36736445
Nah, it ain't worth it. These stages are tedious.

>>36736445
Maybe the 1 wave stages.

I hope as they add more characters for special stages, they update the interface for the menu selection. It's going to be awful scrolling through a list that only shows 4 and a half characters at once for a fucking touhou game

>>36699244
how the hell would he shoulders feel stiff in a body that is constantly in its perfect and best state

>>36737319
She's just that old. That's canon anyways. Houri Elixir doesn't stop you from getting fat either.

>>36737359
>Houri Elixir doesn't stop you from getting fat either.
yes it does, it locks your body into whatever state it was when you drank it. It also heals any ailments

Eirin is indeed old, but she's also one of those beings that don't really age in the first place

>>36737389

>>36737319
Mental strain isn't nullified by the Hourai Elixir. Working constantly will still make her feel tired, and doesn't stop pain either. If she gets her back stiff multiple times, her nervous system will still feel the stiffness for some time. The main reason why Hourai immortals can be defeated is because they can get mentally exhausted and give up if they get beaten up enough.

>>36736310
Is that a naked apron. Lewd

>>36737409
Literally not canon.

>>36737495
And your proof for this is? Note that "I don't like it." or "It's a 4koma." does not make it not-canon.

>>36737298
The tower's friend selecting interface would be perfect if it showed more 2hus at once. Much better than having to tap and hold if you want to modify a unit's spellcards.

>>36737414
It's a qipao

>>36737509
The proof is it's not written by ZUN and contradicts canon in several ways and it's a comedy series made specifically to counter some of the most serious entries in canon (SSiB and CiLR)

Conflicts:
*Hourai immortals getting fat
*Hourai immortals getting sick
*Gatling guns/mines
*Reisen not minding that the Watatsuki's are on earth despite having a panic attack over the mere thought of it in canon
*The Watatsuki's coming down to earth to visit Eirin at all (they would be executed; the joke is that in CiLR and SSiB they are extremely clandestine about even secondhand interaction with Eirin because Eirin is a wanted fucking murderer who they are associated with and whose actions they are persecuted for)
*Tewi plays pranks constantly. She never does this in canon, she's a slaver and a scammer in canon

I never said I disliked it, I do like it. It's not canon. The "original story" credit is that: the original story was made by ZUN--that is, ZUN is Touhou's creator. The manga was created by Arata

>>36737546
>it's not written by ZUN
But it still has his approval, is considered an official Touhou work, other Touhou works have made references to its events, and there has been no statement officially made stating it is not canon. ZUN doesn't draw the manga series but they still are unquestionably canon. He looked over this and gave it his approval.

>and contradicts canon in several ways
Other canon Touhou things do this too. In such incidents, there's either an explanation reconciling them, or the latest one is the canon.

Certain things in the story are obviously exaggerated due to its nature as a comedy, but there's no reason to believe that its outright noncanon for being a comedy. The mainline games themselves even play up the comedy angle more than the print works tend to. Until ZUN himself comes out and states to the contrary, I see no reason to doubt Inaba's canonicity. And regardless, in the context of LostWord Inaba gets tons of references to it (the rabbits even take their designs from the series) so here we can assume it's completely canon.

>>36737599
>Other canon Touhou things do this too
No, they don't. You also can't prove this nonsense, because they don't.

>it still has his approval
So do the doujin works in Strange Creators, the official Touhou magazine. They're not canon.
>other Touhou works have made references to its events
That doesn't really mean anything.
>and there has been no statement officially made stating it is not canon
Yes there has. It's not written by ZUN.
>ZUN doesn't draw the manga series but they still are unquestionably canon.
He writes those, you fucking idiot.

>I see no reason to doubt Inaba's canonicity
Yes, because you're a moron. At least there aren't a lot of people like you.

>>36737599
>He looked over this and gave it his approval.
Lost Word is officially licensed by ZUN too. Does that make everything we have seen so far canon to the lore?

>>36737677
Not them, but officially licensed doesn't mean entirely approved by ZUN. Don't be ntentionally obtuse.

>>36737668
>No, they don't. You also can't prove this nonsense, because they don't.
The PC-98 to Windows transition was literally this. And there several things in early touhou lore that have been retconned or sidelined, that's the nature of a series that's been going on for 20 something years. Are you seriously saying ZUN has never changed the canon once?

>So do the doujin works in Strange Creators, the official Touhou magazine. They're not canon.
Those are explicitly stated to be doujin works and not canon. Inaba was not.

>Yes there has. It's not written by ZUN.
>He writes those, you fucking idiot.
You completely missed the point. ZUN does not need to be involved at every level of production for it to be canon.

>>36737697
>entirely approved
What does this mean? Either ZUN approved it or he didn't, man. Don't make this more complicated then it has to be. ZUN allows people to make fan games of his work and that includes Lost Word. Doesn't make it canon unless ZUN explictly says so. As far as I'm aware he hasn't.

>>36737718
I'm glad we agree that LW isn't canon.

>>36737714
>The PC-98 to Windows transition was literally this
It actually was not. ZUN eventually said after a lot of badgering that if things don't contradict, they're canon I guess. Very dismissively. Why dismissively? Because he originally said, multiple times, "ignore PC-98, consider windows a new blank slate", and has only ever since made perhaps 3 actual hardcore references to the series. And why's THAT? Play PC-98! It's completely fucking different!
>Inaba was not.
STOP being stupid, holy FUCK, Can you READ? It's not written by him, which is the very reason given as to why the Strange Creators works are said to not be canon. Read the warning on them: it's about how ZUN's work is canon, but various artists can have various interpretations.

>ZUN does not need to be involved at every level of production for it to be canon.
I didn't say that he did, how goddamn stupid are you? He has to write something for it at the very fucking least. See: all the goddamn fighters. He writes the scenarios and usually one or two pieces of music for them, everything else is handled by Tasofro, even when they disagree with him such as with Patchouli's design (look it up--look anything up and please actually learn about what you're trying to talk about)

>>36737772
and one more thing before you reply to me with retarded horse shit, stop fucking ignoring all the blatant contradictions in Inaba

It's a comedy series meant to not make sense and not actually adhere to canon, and you can't point to parts of it and say "well that doesn't contradict so it's actually ALL CANON" what kind of braindead shit would you have to be to say something like that? It's not only stupid on a basic level of logic, it's missing the fucking joke

>>36737789
>>36737772
Nobody cares. Kaguya is a fat neet, Reisen is a slutty bunny, Tewi is a master trapsmith and Eirin is a flying spaghetti monster. All canon, prove me wrong.

>>36737808
I certainly cannot

>>36737808
>Kaguya is a fat
Pictures to backup your claims?

>>36737772
>>36737789
>the Strange Creators works are said to not be canon. Read the warning on them
The warning that isn't on Inaba? You can argue that, if Inaba had come out later, it would have had this warning. But the fact is it didn't. It is an official Touhou work, it has been referenced multiple times in other canon material, and until you can find a definitive statement saying otherwise, it's canon.

>>36737821

>>36737821
see >>36737409

>>36737823
>it has been referenced multiple times in other canon material
That's a funny way of saying three things mentioned to happen in it also happened in canon, and literally nothing else.

>a definitive statement
This is the definitive statement. Pretend it isn't all you want, however, it is. This is literal fact. Fuck yourself, basically

Why can't we just go back to enjoying fat hag boobs?

>>36737889
Whether you like it or not, Tewi's gatling gun is canon.

>>36737842
I can smell this image

>>36736043
Rude.

>>36735680
Just wait until people in global get to reincarnate Sanae who still can not grind any stages on her own because she will never deal damage.

>>36738520
But Sanae has her use as a healer, and a free one at that. Byakuren has no use outside of her all target LW. She can't damage for shit, she can't tank for extended periods, and she barely has team utility.

>>36727715
I'm not grinding points, I'm grinding materials on Fermenting in the Netherworld with 11sp Strawberrisa (2T) or 9sp miso and rice soup maiden combined with 11sp Regularisa (3T), who I happen to have MLB'd since she came out of the last GFR and am currently leveling up to try out the mirror stages.

If my number of Tiger Scrolls were still lower than the number of dragon scrolls, i would've farmed the bunny stage instead, which I can farm even with 8sp Minoriko in three turns thanks to her metal breaks.

>>36735640
You have a point.

Baku is now maxed, time to uninstall

Are there no EX stages this time?

>>36740492
Wait for it, anon.

>>36737495
Fuck you it's canon. ZUN is my drinking buddy and he said so

>>36737495
We all know fanon is superior to canon. Touhou (canon) is dead, long live touhou (fanon)

>>36741902
nice bait

>>36740599
As long as I don't have to wait as much as for Youmu reincarnation. Could be farming rabbits at 7SP right now, but I had to take the bait even guessing and knowing internally they would take forever to add it

Bros this event made me fully realize how much I fucking hate cuisine, and fucking hate it even more when it's narrated by japs

>>36743109
Focusing on the taste of food always leads to boring narration. There's only so many ways to say "wow, this food is good."

>>36738994
She would be okay as an unlimited tank. As a festival unit she is pretty lackluster.
Having the best Yin defense in the game is not enough to tank, you need the skills to go with it...

>>36744387
Look at all that stamina.

>>36744387
Yuugi banner when ?
I need oni

>>36744387
Fuck man I really need Kasen to rerun a banner solo again.
She's the one unit I desperately need for breaks.
Quick fill in on our new units coming up:
Shou is decent but will be a basic unit like Nemuno, who is pretty bad.
All other chars in that document are fes units. Grab them if you need them.
Yuugi is the big one next month.

>>36745223
How good is Yuugi?

>>36745490
Neither good nor bad. She got pissed at humans, so she fucked off to somewhere with no humans. She's not trying to harm them, but also not trying to reconciliate with them. Not exactly a rolemodel, but not a villain aswell for sure.

>>36745490
Honestly? I'm not sure, it's Yuugi and the guide I'm looking at says A tier.
For comparison Shou is S tier but also a basic unit.
>>36745559
lol I wasn't ready for this today.

>>36745559
I meant in LW lmfao

JP hasn’t had a new banner in a week. Could this…?

>>36746178

>>36745490
Her main elemental breaks are Star, Earth, and Metal, and she has spammable Star on her focus shot.
Her LW is solo-target Metal with Star breaks and a 2-1-2 pattern
She's crit-focused, having higher crit chance on all of her bullets and many ways to increase her crit accuracy.
Her skills give party-wide crit accuracy and atk buffs, plus a 30% self-heal and Charge.

Her weakness is that she's a yin attacker, but she has two yang atk buffs for no reason. She does have a level 3 yin atk buff and crit atk buff on her LW, but it's solo-target. And she has the usual decreased accuracy that crit units have. Overall, great if you love her, nothing special if you don't.
Miscellaneously, her spread shot has both 95% hit and 30% crit, which is pretty neat.

New story too

>>36746217
Nevermind. Guess they were just late haha. Thanks anon

>>36696952
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1ilgWbCQgIBlfCW0Yz5RPzTPX0R9h9MYUA5LoH7Sjxto/htmlview#

tier list got revised (again), still wondering how yorihime is bottom tier

>>36746875
She can't farm (full-auto), she has no utility, elemental breaks are non-existent. That being said, her damage is phenomenal when the conditions are right. 3power, full yin attack/agility buffs, MLB Eating Contest, and against Gensokyo dwellers. She does her job well in Tower. She scores well in damage, but low in everything else.

>>36747202
i mean yeah all of that is true but consider the other characters in c+ tier, that’s what doesn’t make sense

>>36746875
I'm gonna drop the game so fucking hard once these retardedly broken mecha SFES hit global

>>36747360
It will be interesting to see how global will handle their release because global players sure as shit won't tolerate 6 back to back Super FES.

>>36747360
Why? Even f2p players can MLB 1 of them.

New type of step-up in JP. More expensive overall, but a lower bar to entry and you get 2 guaranteed friends at the end. A guaranteed friend for 60 GC is pretty tempting.

>>36747360
But Marisa spatsu...

>>36746235
>Her weakness is that she's a yin attacker, but she has two yang atk buffs for no reason.
Is this a frequent problem with the cast? I feel like I've heard this about at least two other friends.

>>36747810
I don't think so. There are only 4 friends that applies to off the top of my head: Marisa, Cirno, Yuugi, and Junko. And the first two are mixed attackers whose LWs happen to not align with their buff type, while Junko has a weird gimmick with her bullet layout.

>>36746875
>koishi fell to B- tier
pain.........
now it won't exactly impact on me using her but it's just sad

>>36746875
That tierlist is ping ponging so hard every other day I'll just wait for things to calm down.

>>36744387
I'm going to max out Shou asap.

>>36748774
Just wait until the auto replay function is rolled out.

>>36708337
The fact that that she hasn't gotten one on jp makes me worried for how long I'll have to wait for Rumia to get one on global

I still habe a bunch of normal Paperdolls laying around, tho I'm unsure if I should pump them into Eirin, Doremi or even Remilia

Theres also a Akyuu offscreen on 90, and units like Kaguya and Aya on 70
Might as well as to upgrade them now to level them while grinding.

>>36750206
...I forgot I got an Aya dupe... forget that part lol, it's too early at 5am for thinking...

>>36750206
Don’t burn paper dolls on non-fes. Can’t help on Baku/Eirin, though I will say Doremy’s LW animation is long as fuck.

>>36750325
Yeah but it's pretty hilarious.
Smothered by a motherfuckin pillow.

>>36750343
Well it's the best way to release sleeping people from life...

>>36750325
>don't burn paper dolls on non-fes

Do people really think like this? Do you just expect to eventually, maybe, hopefully get spooked by another copy on your daily rolls/friend rituals?

4chanにも立ってるんだな…

>>36750857
Do you just expect to eventually, maybe, hopefully get spooked by festival friends on your daily rolls/friend rituals?

>>36750885
I didn't realize paper dolls were a limited resource. I don't know what's wrong with your game but I get one every week.

>>36750857
Yes. There are really only four valid reasons to paper doll a general unit.
1:You’re just starting out and don’t have a fes character but do need a higher level friend/a last word.
2:Using the doll is the only way to get past a specific difficult fight in a timely manner.
3: It’s your waifu.
4:It’s Medicine.

Uggh, didn’t pull a second Goth Youmu. Unit count on the spark was below average too.

>>36750911
>4:It’s Medicine.
This is actually the only appropriate use of paper dolls.
Once she hits MLB you need to keep feeding her or she'll eat the other girls.

>>36750857
It does happen.
My Cirno is MLB purely from spooks
I got 3 Youmu dupes before I used paper dolls on her
Same with Medicine
Sanae & Marisa are 1 dupe away from MLB, though they were given away for free so you could argue that it doesn't count.

Hmm. I think im going to attempt to get Yukari when her rerun drops, im not the best at tower so i really want a better tank than Reimu and not depending on Sanae for barrier regeneration.

>>36752470
Why not just break barriers. It's easier.

>>36752972
That requires knowing what units to bring and when to use skills/spell cards. Stalling just requires grazing telegraphed spell cards and having your skills leveled.

Can a kind soul tell which story cards are farmable? I'm only aware of mysterious sword master.

>>36758137
Last stage of each story section on hard and lunatic, it tells you in the stage description. Only swordmaster and lunatic Rojo’s card are super important, though my girl’s the cutest gives a yang atk boost and yin atk stat stick, so it’s not useless.

There is going to be another livestream for the upcoming content soon. Can't wait for them to suddenly add Loli Yukari to go with the new story chapter.