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they're both shit

neither

>good fanbase
>Type-Moon
>Touhou

in before power levels

All the fanbases are shit.

umineko

>>3581998
>better
>fanbase

DOHOHOHOHOHOHO

I'd have to say I'd break it up.

Fanbase as a whole goes to Type-Moon.

Fanbase on /jp/ goes to Touhou.

Touhou. The sheer bulk of fan created material is my argument for that position.

>Which has the better fanbase

Wait, is this a trick question?

Touhou's is a bit less shittier

Which has more tripfags named after characters from it? That is the worst.

>Comiket staff heard commenting that Touhou fans are really unruly

Touhou = srs business

>>3582029
That's a close run, there.

All fanbases are shit.

>>3582029
Touhou. Arcueid isnt' really a Type-Moon fan, so troll trips don't count. eirei emiya is the only other one I can think of, unless you're counting that Sakura fag.

You are asking the wrong question, here, let me help you out.
Which has the better powerlevels: Type-Moon or Touhou Project?

>>3582046
What about Shmion, Bananaya and Tatari? And yourself?

>>3582057

Oh, Type-Moon by far.

Shiki can kill Servants, discuss.

>>3582062
Nanaya hasn't posted in AGES. He's internetless atm, I think.

>>3582062
Sion is a wigger, Tatari doesn't even post under his trip anymore unless seriously called out, and I haven't seen a Nanaya trip in a while.

But I'm not on /jp/ as much as I used to be, so meh.

>>3582057
Type Moon, no one can beat ORT. The strongest from Touhou are Yukari and Flandre. Plus, TM has Arc and the Dead Apostles and whoever else is there.

>>3582066
I just wanted to say that I think you're alright, man. The least offensive tripfag using a TM reference left.

>>3582070
>flandre and yukari the strongest
hmMmmMMmMMmm

>>3582066
>>3582073

I like eirei emiya but only when he's posting NeroDeer.

>>3582066
>>3582068
Just because they don't post that often anymore doesn't mean they do not exist. Gotta count them in when calculating this board's shit-fanbase-ratio.

>>3582081
I, too, miss the deer.

>>3582088
Then you're going to have a shitload of ex-trips that are Touhou to count in.

Neither of them are really all that bad honestly.

Sure, there's some powerlevels and retarded fanon in both, but it's nowhere near as bad as it could be. Pic related.

>>3582081
>>3582073
Uh, thanks, I guess. Here, have a deer.

>>3582078
Yukari can send them off the end of the world and Flandre can pretty much split your atoms before you can do anything. Reimu is overrated, Kanako is weak, Suwako is useless, Remilia is weaker than Flandre, Yuyuko's ability probably has no effect on them and the rest is 2nd string and downwards.
Even someone relative weak like Nrvnqsr Chaos would kill Marisa without problem.

>>3582092
OK let's only count in tripfags who have 'existed' for more than a month. How about that?
Isn't there some tripfag-list with dates and shit on the archive?

>>3582104
b-but... THAT'S NOT A DEER!!!

>weak like Nrvnqsr Chaos

He's not really that weak. If you disregard Shiki, he has the highest endurance/survivability out of everything shown that isn't just game-breakingly powerful.

Virtually unkillable and HOAAAHH.

>>3582115
Still proves my point that everyone in TM is pretty much hax.

>>3582120
That's why you don't mix universes. It doesn't work.

>>3582106
Remilia Scarlet
Remilia Scarlet!NOxU
Hong Meiling
ZUN (it counts?)
Singaporean ZUN
Koakuma
Cirno
Aya Shameimaru
http://www.livestream.com/possessedbyphoenix
!Mystia
Alice Margatroid
Tewi Inabog
Kaguya is a bear

>>3582115

>Virtually unkillable

Even disregarding Shiki, EXCALIBLAST and Ea both have a 1000 target cap.

Gate of Babylon can probably target all 666 at once, same goes for UBW.

While there are no other Anti-Fortress Noble Phantasms that we know of, they're generally things that would work.

4th Caster can also summon infinite tentacles and infinite > 666.

Tsukihime remake was great, I loved satsuki's route.

>>3582129
UBW and Gate of Babylon don't have a cap high enough. I wouldn't be surprised if some of Nero's acquisitions are on the level of low-ranking noble phantasms as far as concept rating. Excalibur and especially Enuma Elish are so game-breaking that they should just be excluded from consideration. 4th Caster's demons would be an interesting match to Nero, but seeing as Nero's familiars can reconstitute themselves completely unharmed in himself, he might be able to send out some of his more powerful ones to simply steamroll Caster's abominations. It's a good fight idea.

Nero is pretty damn unkillable, aside from Excalibur, Enuma Elish, and Shiki's eyes. Arcueid admitted she would've been hard-pressed to fight him, even at her before-death power level.

>>3582140

>>3582105
Shinki Alice and Yuka can destroy it simply using the ultimate magic.
Kaguya can seal ORT in a closed space for eternity
Yuyuko can't do shit, Youmu however might be able to cut it to pieces.
Remilia can change ORT's fate and make it "stop being alive"
Tenshi's Sword can probably cut it into pieces, however Crystal Valley will turn her into a pretty statue before she gets to cut ORT.
Suika can break ORT too
Yuugi might be able break ORT if her manipulation of supernatural phenomena disables Crystal Valley

>>3582106
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>>3582158

>>3582154

>Shinki Alice and Yuka can destroy it simply using the ultimate magic.

No, they can't. Maybe if they get RIDICULOUSLY lucky, just like Zelretch who wielded an ultimate magic against a TYPE.

>Kaguya can seal ORT in a closed space for eternity

Closed Space becomes Mercurian by Leaked Law, ORT moves out of it.

>Yuyuko can't do shit, Youmu however might be able to cut it to pieces.

Tink. Youmu explodes.

>Remilia can change ORT's fate and make it "stop being alive"

Remilia cannot acknowledge its fate, Remilia cannot UNDERSTAND its fate.

>Tenshi's Sword can probably cut it into pieces, however Crystal Valley will turn her into a pretty statue before she gets to cut ORT.

Tenshi's sword isn't even designed to cut ANYTHING, it reveals emotion. Tink. Tenshi explodes.

>Suika can break ORT too

Tink. Suika explodes.

>Yuugi might be able break ORT if her manipulation of supernatural phenomena disables Crystal Valley

Tink. Yuugi explodes.

You do not understand how strong ORT is.

Touhou.

The games are good. The fanworks are massive. There is a Gensokyo for everybody. It isn't as restricted or filled with shounen bullshit as Typemoon, so it suits me just fine.

The settings and situations are limitless.

>>3582154
>Shinki Alice and Yuka can destroy it simply using the ultimate magic.
You dream, he will destroy them before they can even lift a finger.
>Kaguya can seal ORT in a closed space for eternity
As if something like a closed space is a hinderance for ORT
>Youmu however might be able to cut it to pieces.
This won't work
>Remilia can change ORT's fate and make it "stop being alive"
No one really does know how her ability works, not even ZUN. Stop pulling shit out of your ass.
>Suika can break ORT too
In a matter of raw strength she has no chance. But she will die even long before that.
>Yuugi might be able break ORT if her manipulation of supernatural phenomena disables Crystal Valley
Maybe a 0.2% chance that she might him a little.

> Powerlevel discussion
> Touhou
> Type-Moon

There is only one conclusion:
Youmu is softest.

>>3582168
Flandre makes "kyuu" and then ORT goes "kaboom".

End of argument.

>>3582168

>No, they can't. Maybe if they get RIDICULOUSLY lucky, just like Zelretch who wielded an ultimate magic against a TYPE.

Just to note, it's implied that while Type-Moon is a Type, it may not be an Aristoteles (Ultimate One).

>>3582184

Let's read this again.

"Her method of destroying things so effortlessly involves pouring her power into the "eyes" of any material where its tension is the highest. "

Do you honestly believe
1. Flandre's power is enough to destroy ORT, no matter how much she flows into it?
2. ORT has a place where tension is highest?
3. If, by ANY chance, it is sufficiently destroyed... That that even STOPS it?! Types don't STOP when they break! Types don't DIE when they're killed!

Give up. ORT cannot be defeated in its own universe. It won't be defeated in Touhou.

Tsukihime 2 better have a route for her.

>>3582168
as far as I know ORT can't make things explode, it can just turn them into some kind of alien crystal
>No, they can't. Maybe if they get RIDICULOUSLY lucky, just like Zelretch who wielded an ultimate magic against a TYPE.
they don't even need to lift a finger, no matter how many times ORT tries to kill them, youkai and gods can't die unless they want to or unless they are attacked with divine power (Like Reimu's)
>Closed Space becomes Mercurian by Leaked Law, ORT moves out of it.
Eternity can't be changed unless Yuugi's ability works on it.
>Remilia cannot acknowledge its fate, Remilia cannot UNDERSTAND its fate.
explain
>Tink. Youmu explodes.
1/4 of light speed slash, ORT is cut in half
>Tenshi's sword isn't even designed to cut ANYTHING, it reveals emotion. Tink. Tenshi explodes.
you win
>Tink. Suika explodes.
she reassembles again and turns ORT into a mist of atoms
>Tink. Yuugi explodes.
disabled all supernatural abilities, ORT is turned into dust by Yuugi's oni strenght
>>3582176
>You dream, he will destroy them before they can even lift a finger.
they don't even need to lift one
>No one really does know how her ability works, not even ZUN. Stop pulling shit out of your ass.
durr heee hEeeeE
>In a matter of raw strength she has no chance. But she will die even long before that.
manipulation of density
>Maybe a 0.2% chance that she might him a little.
source?

>>3582193
Oh wait. This is not possible because Japan banned loli already. GODDAMNIT!

>>3582184

Alternatively, Suika creates a black hole inside of Crystal Valley, ORT is sucked in. No more ORT.

This is humiliating, stop it.

>>3582191
Watch Nasu bullshit his way into letting Shiki kill it.

>>3582220
Keine is the only one who can beat ORT. She can just rewrite it so that he never came to earth.
Win the fight before the fight even starts.

>>3582152
Are you frustrated?

>>3582228
oh, this too

>>3582228
ORT doesn't care about your earthling ways of thinking, it's still going to steamroll over Keine

>>3582213

>as far as I know ORT can't make things explode, it can just turn them into some kind of alien crystal

You missed the part where it's described as "THE STRONGEST THING EVER". Crystal Valley is a passive side-effect of its EXISTENCE, it's not even a conscious attack.

>they don't even need to lift a finger, no matter how many times ORT tries to kill them, youkai and gods can't die unless they want to or unless they are attacked with divine power (Like Reimu's)

You say this as if ORT isn't so far beyond a god that all of its "attacks" are liquid divinity. Also, you assume these laws will work in the order of Crystal Valley.

>Eternity can't be changed unless Yuugi's ability works on it.

Everything is changed by Crystal Valley.

>explain

It is something not of Earth. All fate in Earth terms will be IGNORED by it.
Additionally, it is an Aristoteles. An infinite existence with no beginning or end. It would have no fate.

>>1/4 of light speed slash, it tinks on ORT's skin

>she reassembles again and turns ORT into a mist of atoms

She crystallizes in gaseous form and is now a fine crystalline dust on the floor of the Crystal Valley.

>disabled all supernatural abilities, ORT is turned into dust by Yuugi's oni strenght

ORT's power is not 'supernatural', it is a part of itself. ORT's power is a few INFINITIES above Yuugi's.
Yuugi explodes.

>manipulation of density

Crystal Valley throws your earthen concept of "density" out the window. Science doesn't work here, friend.

>Can't be killed by Mystic Eyes of Death Perception. Doesn't have the Gaia concept of death, so the Eyes can't perceive it. It can be destroyed physically, though it would be exceedingly difficult.

So you just need enormous ammounts of brute force? Sounds like a job for the oni. Or Flandre.

Rock, Scissors and Paper. See attached pic.

>>3582217
Because Suika sure has enough mastery over density for such a feat, right?

>>3582241
>>3582244
Stop.

>>3582240
How can he do this if he doesn't even leave Mercury

Only Two touhous can stop ort.

Yukari because she can gap it off world, period.

Reimu because she can float out of reality and not even be able to be affected by anything.

>>3582244

None of them have enough power to defeat ORT.

You missed the part where "exceedingly difficult" means "you need a source of infinite damage like a Sorcery or Black Barrel".

>>3582250
>Yukari because she can gap it off world, period.

So then he would just get back to earth. He came form Mercury, not like being someplace in the universe has an effect on him.

>>3582245
>Implying touhous have any limit to their abilities

>>3582250

>Yukari because she can gap it off world, period.

Again, it has a UFO mode presumably for interplanetary travel.

>Reimu because she can float out of reality and not even be able to be affected by anything.

Deactivated by Crystal Valley

>>3582255
Toss him in the sun.

The sun is the death of Mercury.

>>3582258
>conveniently ignoring that Suika pretty much defeated herself for trying to go too far, too fast.

>>3582255
And it would get gapped off again. It's not like Yukari is going anywhere soon. Even her lazy ass can be bothered to gap it into a sun every now and then.

>>3582264
one of the types it's a sun

TYPEMOON vs　東方　is rather silly. I still say Touhou had less bullshit.

>>3582261
Reimu can float out reality, no matter what you change reality to be. Reality is reality.

>>3582264
>Implying ORT is a male
Stop that. You'll make her cry.

>>3582264

The Sun is a mysterious thing the Nasuverse.

Also you enter into the limits of Gaps. If Yukari opens a gap in the sun, wouldn't BILLIONS OF TONS OF SUPERHEATED PLASMA flow out and kill her/the entire planet earth? And if she opens a gap far from the sun, ORT will just fly away from it.

>>3582255
I doubt ORT would care about Earth enough to come back.

>>3582261
ORT is more likely to fly into the sun then make it back to Earth. Clumsy oaf.

>>3582264
That's not how it works. To kill Ort permanently you would have to toss the planet Mercury into the sun. Just tossing Ort would mean nothing since Ultimate Ones represent the ultimate power of a planet.

There was Type Moon and there is Type Mercury. But how many of them are there in total?

>>3582271

A black hole then. Let me guess, not enough to kill it?

>>3582278

Well, Gaia will ask it to in XXXX A.D.

>>3582279 than

>You missed the part where it's described as "THE STRONGEST THING EVER". Crystal Valley is a passive side-effect of its EXISTENCE, it's not even a conscious attack.
I know, but it's not a natural thing that's why it can be disabled by Yuugi or Kaguya even.
>You say this as if ORT isn't so far beyond a god that all of its "attacks" are liquid divinity. Also, you assume these laws will work in the order of Crystal Valley.
energy and spirits can be turned into crystal too?
>Everything is changed by Crystal Valley.
not eternity, eternity keeps it's shape for ever, it cannot be changed
>Additionally, it is an Aristoteles. An infinite existence with no beginning or end. It would have no fate.
you win
>ORT's power is not 'supernatural', it is a part of itself.
you win
>Crystal Valley throws your earthen concept of "density" out the window. Science doesn't work here, friend.
source?
>She crystallizes in gaseous form and is now a fine crystalline dust on the floor of the Crystal Valley.
are the effects of Crystal Valley instantaneous?

>>3582278
To be fair it would. After all it was called to Earth in the first place to eradicate all humans by Gaia.

>>3582276
Boundary manipulation. If you can bullshit ORT to be greater than the gods, I can also bullshit and say that Yukari can keep herself and her planet safe with her borders.

>>3582285

That may be. But it depends.
Again opening gaps in environmental hazards is risky to Yukari herself and opening them too far away from them allows ORT to maneuver.

>>3582282

9 including Type-Moon.
Type-Mercury through Type-Pluto, with no Type-Earth.

>>3582280
Something is wrong here. Type Moon got killed, but with your logic it would not be possible to kill it, but it is dead. That means you can kill ORT too and it would have the same effect. Dead is dead.

>>3582280
Suika can destroy Mercury

>>3582280

And all of a sudden, everything becomes a whole lot simpler. I imagine destroying a planet is easier than dealing with some broken EVA angel.

>>3582299
type moon isn't dead. Going to come back on the next crimson moon.

>>3582168
I hold that Flandre stands the highest (only?) chance of defeating ORT should the two universes cross and all inconsistencies are eliminated, resolved, or ignored. As it is written-up, her power does not rely on material strength, proximity, or contact, but rather on sight (or knowledge of presence?). Likewise, as it is written up:

>Destruction of anything and everything (PMiSS)

ORT should only be able to overcome this by being invisible before coming into Flandre's vision. Likewise, Flandre would need to want to destroy ORT just after spotting it, rather than get closer, and I'm certain situations like that could be manufactured. Likewise, this all depends on the effective range of Crystal Valley. In the end, I believe ORT has the absolute advantage unless Flandre is in the proper mindset and positioning at time 0 of their hypothetical "fight".

>>3582280
You fucktard, Types can exist without the planet, many planets die after making the Type or outlive the planet.

ITT we seriously discuss touhou vs TM power levels

>>3582276
Even without getting into boundary manipulation and the fact that no, the earth wouldn't be scorched bald since we can nuke it just fine and not kill it, let alone her small sun gap area, or the gravitational danger of being sucked in...


You're assuming the gap allows travel in two directions. Stop assuming that.

>>3582291

>I know, but it's not a natural thing that's why it can be disabled by Yuugi or Kaguya even.

I'd say only Yuugi can.

>energy and spirits can be turned into crystal too?

Sure. Crystal Valley is a corruption of REALITY ITSELF. It has no limits.

>not eternity, eternity keeps it's shape for ever, it cannot be changed

Bah. Her Eternity Locking thing requires there to be no history moving. Crystal Valley will be attempting to do things, thereby altering history and causing change to the world, breaking the Eternity. It's not something that can be enforced over something else, Hourai Elixir notwithstanding.

>source?

"It is a leaking of alien 'order'".
Science as we know it is under Earth's 'order'.

>are the effects of Crystal Valley instantaneous?

... Uh, it's not been stated. The only thing we know is that it grows larger over time, though.

>>3582313

>You're assuming the gap allows travel in two directions. Stop assuming that.

But EVERYTHING WE KNOW indicates that.

>>3582304
Wiki states it was destroyed by Zelretch. Doesn't say a thing from ever coming back again.

Hello, Beast's Lair? Your board is leaking all over our imageboard, please come wipe it up.

YUUKA MAKES FLOWERS BLOOM FROM ORT. ORT DOESN'T DIE BUT HE BECOMES A PRETTY FLOWER GARDEN. THE END. YOUKAI MOE.

>>3582244
Doesn't have a real concept of death, period. You have to teach that to it in order to actually kill it.

>>3582276
It's shown that Yukari can open a gap, close it and maintain a closed space of sorts, and then reopen another gap elsewhere. Now whether or not ORT can leave her closed space within the few seconds it'd take to open and close those gaps is debatable.

>>3582332

It's said that it will come back in the year 3000 in Melty Blood.

In fact, it's drawn from the future for all of a few seconds by Arcueid to destroy the Night of Wallachia.

>>3582336
>ORT
>HE
Stop that.

>>3582336

The flowers crystallize.

ORT becomes very pretty.

>>3582332

TYPE-MOON can reincarnate from either Arcueid or Altrouge as they are the only ones able compatible with Crimson Moon. It'd probably pick Altrogue over Arcueid due to Arc's severe reduction in strength from Tsukihime.

I kill ur space aliens with the common cold.

>>3582332
"destroyed" as physical destruction, Type Moon exist inside every TA, including Arcueid. His personality pop's up some times in Kagetsu Tohya and Melty Blood, scheluded to come back in 1000 years, the next crimson moon.

>>3582339
The red moon returns. It's implied that it is also the time of the Crimson Moon's, the old king of the moon, revival.

But then, Dust of Osiris, time manipulation, etc. Seeing as Arcueid is the only True Ancestor of sufficient purity to spawn a reincarnation of the Crimson Moon, something has to happen to her.

>>3582345

It's actually vague as to whether it will be able to take over Altrouge, since she's not a True Ancestor (she's half True Ancestor and half Dead Apostle). Altrouge just has the title of Brunestud since she's so powerful.

Yuki can defeat ORT.

>>3582338
I don't think Yukari would want to risk Crystal Valley infesting/infecting the interior of her gaps.

srsly

>>3582345
>>3582352

Oh and Arcueid's strength was not reduced at all in Tsukihime.

It's just that more of her strength has to go to withholding bloodlust.

The Crimson Moon wants her to GIVE IN to bloodlust to achieve maximum power.

>>3582354
If you know what I mean?

>>3582315
>"It is a leaking of alien 'order'".
>Science as we know it is under Earth's 'order'.
What about moon order?

Remember kids, If ORT doesn't understands what he fuck is trying to attack her, she's is immune to said thing.
That's why she's a perfect ultimate one.

>>3582352
She summoned Castle Brunestud, dunno how, but that's enough for her to get the Brunestud title

>>3582336
>crystalline flowers
Fixed for aesthetic accuracy.

Alternatively, ORT decides to play on Gensokyo terms and turns into loli form. Danmaku battles take place, but ultimately all is resolved by manly cross-counters. Victors and losers are good sports, Tea Party end, all is well.

/thread, please please stop

>>3582362

It apparently works via giant fucking castles and rainbows.

Brunestud has weird tastes.

>>3582353
so what? Bitch should just seal haruhi's powers and be don't with it. She could just manipulate the way haruhi thinks so she isn't so strong willed.

>>3582363
>HURRDURR I NOT UNDERSTAND YOU SO YOU NO HURT ME

>>3582366

>ORT decides to play on Gensokyo terms

The very NATURE of Crystal Valley is that "ORT WILL NOT PLAY ON YOUR TERMS, YOU MUST PLAY ON ORT'S TERMS".

This is why it's undefeatable.

were the angel notes translated?
if so where can i find them?

>>3582339
>>3582345
>>3582350
Well, that i did not know. Always good to find out more things than Wiki can tell me.

>>3582354
what.

are you trying to imply all gaps are related in some way? because that's just stupid.

>>3582372
That's how ORT works, brah. Go cry to Nasu.

Density is a property of the universe; only the word itself is Earthen in origin. Therefore, density does work on ORT

>>3582374

http://nrvnqsr.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=walk&action=display&thread=3210&page=1

Just to say, ORT does not make an appearance. Only Types Jupiter, Venus, and Saturn, and a brief mention of Pluto.

>>3582374
http://nrvnqsr.proboards20.com/index.cgi?board=walk&action=display&thread=3210&page=1

Jesus, why do Type-Moon fans always get so butthurt in these powerlevel discussions. Y'all need to take it easy, da ze!

>>3582381
>>3582383
thanks

>>3582380

Science in the real world =/= science in the Nasuverse.

Remember, this is a world where all of reality is decided by a giant sleeping god who generally does not like humanity.

Hm... arguing Nasu bullshit against Touhou bullshit. Well done guys, didn't take much for you to get off track with that one.

Still, could be worse, Touhou fans could introduce Seihou characters into the mix.

This thread is an eyesore.

This Thread is a good Thread.

>>3582380
Dude, I doubt ORT understands even something as basic as time with the whole "opps I arrived several thousand years before getting summoned by Gaia to kill mankind. Brb, going to sleep." deal.

>>3582401

Not to mention that it BROKE causality.

It arrived on Earth... long before Gaia even called it. Gaia called the Types with its DEATH WAIL.

Type-Mercury knew this somehow.

>>3582387
>Remember, this is a world where all of reality is decided by a giant sleeping god who generally does not like humanity.
wat

>>3582410

Gaia.

And I shouldn't say all of Reality. Things that aren't on Earth abide by a different Reality, as well as things in Reality Marbles.

Well, I think this thread again proves Type-moon fans on /jp/ are complete faggots and it takes some real effort to out do Touhou fans on that point. Bravo.

>>3582410

Gaia hates humans. This can be seen with the reason behind Counter-Guardians.

>>3582406
So is there an ort on mercury at the same time too?

Someone needs to post a thread on /co/ about how ORT's POWER IS MAXIMUM and then defend it as vehemently as people have been in this thread. It'd give The Flash trolls a run for their money.

>>3582428
Yes, let's have an east vs. west trollfest!

>>3582417
>>3582424
Alright, the all of reality bit is what threw me off.

>>3582376
Nothing so grandiose.
Yukari is a gap youkai like Kogasa is an umbrella youkai, is what I mean. The Yukari and Kogasa we see are just personified abstractions of a "gap" and a "kasa kasa" (well, Kogasa carries herself around ...).

ORT damages "Yukari," she can heal to an extent.
ORT damages the "gap," that affects her on a much more visceral level.

>>3582424
>>3582417
>>3582387
>>3582406
The solution is clear. We must incarnate Gaia into a humanoid female.

Then we must stick our ponos into her until she falls in love.

>>3582428

Eh... The only thing that can work with is that 'speed' is thrown off by Crystal Valley.

*is the guy who's been thoroughly defending ORT's powerlevel since the beginning*

>>3582428

haha, oh wow. Now that would be worth seeing. Though good luck getting them to take anything /jp/ related remotely serious enough for a 100+ post thread.

Okay, who the fuck is Gaia? And why did it create the Types and sent them to destory whatever?

>>3582428
ORT vs.Barry vs. Living Tribunal. Gogogogogo.

>>3582376

ORT has NOTHING on my Moon Bitches, they would defeat him with nothing more then a Moon technology fan.

>>3581996
gtfo stop spammin ur shitty board on Дnoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's all ur ip's lulz ur not relly anonimus enjoy ur party v&'s

>>3582444
Gaia is Earth. That is all.

>>3582444
The earth. And it didn't create any types. It can't. It tried but it got humans instead. It got butthurt about that and called the types made by the other planets to kill all the humans.

>>3582459
Doesn't it also control Primate Murder?
And the counter-force?

>>3582444

Gaia is Earth.

Gaia did not create the Types. Mercury created Type-Mercury, Venus created Type-Venus, and so on.

Gaia called the Types to Earth when it died, so that natural order can take effect (when a planet dies, everything on the planet must die. When Earth died, Humans lived on).

yeah, we all know how this works. Turns out Type-moon has better cheaters.

>>3582462
No, the Counter Force is controlled by Alaya, which is essentially the collective will of human kind.

>>3582460
So Gaia is a being now or what? And who created the Types?

>>3582462
The White Beast IS Gaia's Counter Force. The Counter force you think of belongs to Alaya, or simply humanity.

>>3582462
>>3582468

Primate Murder is the Counter Force of Gaia.
Counter Guardians are the Counter Force of Alaya.

A Counter Force is made by one of these higher entities to defend itself from threads by other higher entities or itself.

>>3582475

Yes, Gaia is Earth's consciousness.

Type-X was made by X, Type-Y was made by Y.

Notice how they're named after planets? Yeah.

>>3582444
Gaia, the spirit of the Earth, can no longer stand the terrible destruction plaguing her planet. She sends a mighty DEATH WAIL to five special Types:

ORT, from Mercury, with the power of hax
Brunstead, from the Moon, with the power of vampirism
V/V, from Venus, with the power of parasitism
The Cross, from Saturn, with the power of HUGE FUCKING CROSS RAIN OF DEATH
And, from Jupiter, The Black Aristoteles, with the power of photon gas

>>3582486

>Gaia, the spirit of the Earth, can no longer stand the terrible destruction plaguing her planet.

It's never actually stated what killed Gaia.
But Tsukihime obviously implies it.

>>3582486

Haha! After 1000 years I'm finally free, time to conquer the Earth!

>>3582493
Isn't it also said that at some point or another we become fuckawesome and start taking on the Types?

>>3582501

In Angel Notes, Ether Liners are a type of evolved humans who have bones made out of Haxinium.

Ado Edem, leader of the Ether Liners, has bones made out of INFINITE Haxinium.

>>3582464
>>3582484
>>3582486
Okay, i have it all figured out now. Thanks guys, but one more thing: Type Mercury is now on earth but what about the other ones? When will they arrive or will they ever? And how do they look like, some of them sound like Nasu is pulling shit out of his ass.

VIVIT>EX-Yuka>Sikieiki>Eirin=Yorihime=Toyohime=Yukari>Tenshi>Yuugi>Suika>Reimu=
EX-Alice=Shinki>EX-Marisa=Flandre=Komachi>Mokou=Kaguya>Ran=Yuyuko=Yuka>Remilia>Suwako
=Kanako=Sigma>Utsuho=Mima=Gengetu>Iku=Yumemi>EX-Keine>Satori=Koishi=Marisa>Yumeko>
Aya=Mugetu=Patchouli>Orin=Sakuya>Youmu=Alice=Mai>Reisen=Sanae>Tewi=Medicine>Yuki=Chiy
uri>Elly>Merlin=Nitori>Lunasa=Luize=Rikako>Lyrica>Kana=Keine=Lolice=Sara>Kurumi&am
p;amp;gt;Momiji=China>Ellen>Mystia=Chen>Meira=Wriggle>Hina>Parsee>Kotohime>Flow
erTank>Letty=Yamame>Koakuma>Cirno>Orange>Minoriko>Shizuha>Rumia>Kisume>Li
ly>Daiyousei>Starsapphire=Lunachild=Sunnymilk


ORT > Crimson Moon > Primate Murder > Zelretch > Gilgamesh > Arcueid ≥ Black Sakura > Berserker = Black Saber ≥ Saber > Lancer > Rider = Archer > Caster ≥ Aoko = Nrvnqsr = Kouma = Barthomeloi ≥ Kojirou > Ciel ≥ Great Teacher Hassan (GTH) ≥ "Ryougi Shiki" > V Sion = AC Satsuki = R.Shiki = Bazett ≥ Akiha = Fujino = Araya ≥ Touko = Alba ≥ 18th Roa > > SHIKI = Kiri = Reinforced Kuzuki ≥ Sion = UBW Shirou > ha Avenger > Nanaya = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Leysritt > Satsuki ≥ Rio = Avalon Shirou > ha Sakura > Salaryman Dead = Ilya = Corpse ≥ Azaka ≥ Misayo > Kirie = Zombie ≥ Dragon Tooth Warrior ≥ Fuji-nee > Shinji > Fake Shiki


Mix them together as you see fit. But don’t do it here. Now please kill this thread.

>>3582486
Nasuverse Justice League.
>>3582493
Yeah, Crimson Moon was involved but because the only thing Gaia sent at her death was just a bitch cry, Types assume(if they can do that, otherwise lol natural order) that humans are at fault.

>>3582506
Fuck yeah, Humanity.

Makes me want to dig up that text file of Copypasta of why Aliens might think Humanity is absolutely terrifying.

Thread hidden

>>3582510
Go fuck off, i still have questions.
If you don't like it, close the Thread and hide it and enjoy your trolling /b/ threads because there is nothing else here anymore beside that.

>>3582510

Whoops, copypasta fail


VIVIT>EX-Yuka>Sikieiki>Eirin=Yorihime=Toyohime=Yukari>Tenshi>Yuugi>Suika>Reimu=
EX-Alice=Shinki>EX-Marisa=Flandre=Komachi>Mokou=Kaguya>Ran=Yuyuko=Yuka>Remilia>Suwako
=Kanako=Sigma>Utsuho=Mima=Gengetu>Iku=Yumemi>EX-Keine>Satori=Koishi=Marisa>Yumeko>
Aya=Mugetu=Patchouli>Orin=Sakuya>Youmu=Alice=Mai>Reisen=Sanae>Tewi=Medicine>Yuki=Chiy
uri>Elly>Merlin=Nitori>Lunasa=Luize=Rikako>Lyrica>Kana=Keine=Lolice=Sara>Kurumi&am
p;amp;gt;Momiji=China>Ellen>Mystia=Chen>Meira=Wriggle>Hina>Parsee>Kotohime>Flow
erTank>Letty=Yamame>Koakuma>Cirno>Orange>Minoriko>Shizuha>Rumia>Kisume>Li
ly>Daiyousei>Starsapphire=Lunachild=Sunnymilk

>>3582510

Yukari Yakumo > Ort.

>>3582507

>Type Mercury is now on earth but what about the other ones? When will they arrive or will they ever?

It's unknown what order they arrive in, but Type-Jupiter arrives sometime after Earth's death and a ways before Type-Venus.
Type-Venus arrives before Type-Pluto.
Type-Pluto arrives before two other Types whose entry is prevented by the barrier made by Type-Pluto's blood.
It's unknown when Type-Saturn arrived, but it was active after Venus.

>And how do they look like

Type-Jupiter - a gigantic humanoid, tens of kilometers tall, made out of a black gas.
Type-Saturn - A gigantic cross, 3 kilometers end to end. Everything else unknown.
Type-Venus - vaguely bird-like. Giant plant. 'Wings' resemble tremendous trees.
Type-Mercury - ORT can be seen >>3582070.

>some of them sound like Nasu is pulling shit out of his ass.

Isn't he always?

>>3582498
This makes me think of Byakuran

>>3582535

>Byakuran

You now imaging Byakuren with 9 tails

>>3582525
Now that is really ridiculous, i can believe ORT and such but with that he is really pulling shit out of his ass now.

>>3582521

Yes, because Type-Moon powerlevels are new and fresh and haven't been covered here and elsewhere dozens of times. Yep. And it's not my fault there's nothing more of interest for you on this board, maybe you should try a different one?

>Gaia

Touhou actually, because they don't have a UBW kiddie group.

Discussing powerlevels between two different series..

Ok /jp/, carry on.

>some of them sound like Nasu is pulling shit out of his ass.

1. Watch sailor moon
2. Read lovecraft
3. Watch evangelion
4. ????
5. Nasu

>>3582539
OH GOD THEY ARE ALL MULTICOLORED

>>3582543
I am not the one with the problem here, you are. Go close the Thread and hide it faggot, but instead you are a whiny little bitch who cries about one little thread that he does not like.

>>3582542

Spoiler: ORT was made AFTER Type-Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn

>>3582542

Spoiler: ORT was made AFTER Type-Venus, Jupiter, and Saturn

>>3581996
gtfo stop spammin ur shitty board on Дnoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's all ur ip's lulz ur not relly anonimus enjoy ur party v&'s

Type-Moon: Shiki can kill Servants.
Touhou Project: CIRNO BAKA XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

...Yeah, better fanbase goes to Type-Moon.

Reimu kills ORT in Touhou 17

>>3582596
To be fair, both of those are troll non-memes.

Go away.

This thread was perfectly good up until ORT was mentioned

ORT forgot one thing: I am strongest.

>>3582544
Captain Planet is Type-Earth.

>>3582610
Actually it went off as soon as powerlevels were brought up. Then again, a 'one fanbase vs another' thread was going to be doomed from the start.

>>3581993
gtfo stop spammin ur shitty board on Дnoпtalk.com u retartet fagit's btw moot log's all ur ip's lulz ur not relly anonimus enjoy ur party v&'s

>>3582625
In my opinion, Lucifer should be Type-Earth. But maybe that's just because I play too much MegaTen.

>>3582638
Humans are type earth because >>3582551

>>3582670
No, humans are pretty much the Anti-Earth. Weren't you paying attention?

>>3582675
That's just Earth's 尻痛 opinion.

ITT: We will discover that Type-Moon is actually none other than Reisen.

Malice Canon. 'Nuff said.

>>3582241
You missed the part where it's described as "THE STRONGEST THING EVER". Bankai is a passive side-effect of its EXISTENCE, it's not even a conscious attack.

You say this as if Ichigo isn't so far beyond a god that all of its "attacks" are liquid divinity. Also, you assume these laws will work in the order of Bankai.

Also, it is something not of Earth. All fate in Earth terms will be IGNORED by it.
Additionally, it is a hallow (souls). An infinite existence with no beginning or end. It would have no fate. Bankai throws your earthen concept of "density" out the window. Science doesn't work here, friend.

>>3583261
Here comes ZUN, making a bad thing worse.

>>3583271
>implying a powerlevel thread could ever get worse

>>3583261

I won't post any Maria if you act like that, ZUN.

Yes, I am the same person.

Maria and ORT fanatic.

>>3583275

I wonder how conflicted I just made people feel.

>>3583275

So you like two characters that are the only bright spots in an otherwise shitty series?

>>3583280
Only madmen would hate ORT and Maria. I approve of you.

>>3583283

... From a perspective, yes.

Except I really like Star Ocean and am fond of the Nasuverse.

>>3583275
Wow, really? This changes everything. My apologies; I will refrain from doing that in the future then.

Also oh man my pants just exploded from that picture.

>>3583309

Wonderful.

The only good Star Ocean is Star Ocean 2. If you disagree you're a fag. Best game ever.

Don't bother replying, just admit it to yourself, I probably won't refresh /jp/ again for some hours due to it being ass. ಠ_ಠ

>>3583316
I've never played Star Ocean 2. Mostly because I played the other three and they were all terrible except for the gameplay. Which was also terrible in Star Ocean 3, which was just pure terrible.

>>3583316

Nuh uh. No. I will not simply stand for that. You are wrong, sir.

>>3583316

Agreed, Rena was awesome. I hated SO3 more than I hated FF12 and I hated FF12 so much that I wanted to demolish entire buildings with my bare hands.

>>3583318

SO3 had the smoothest battle system, though.

>>3583321

Okay, now your tastes are just too far apart from mine. We stand at opposite ends of a chasm.

SO3 and FFXII are in my top 5 RPGs ever, to say.

I'll not try to convert you, though.

>>3583322
If by "smooth" you mean "you could and would link the same two moves together over and over and over in every battle to win automatically or else get your ass handed to you, no exceptions," yes.

Instead, this has become a Maria (ero) hijack.

Any excuse possible.

Ｂｏｔｈ　ｈａｖｅ　ｓｈｉｔｔｙ　ｆａｎｂａｓｅ

>>3583331
Taste only goes so far. When you make statements like yours, you're just plain wrong.

>>3583338

Yes, I do mean. More RPGs should have systems where you need input skill than just powerleveling and spamming ultimate attack spells.

>>3583318
>>3583319
>>3583321
He said don't bother replying. Can't you dumb shits read?

>>3583350
So your idea of fun is pressing the exact same combination of buttons ad nauseam.

You're a faggot.

>>3583347

I can say the same to you, provide no further input, and reach the same conclusion! Wai!

>>3583347
NO U!

>>3583357

You say this as if I would not do the EXACT same thing in any other RPG.

No, I find fun in finding out the right combinations of button input to achieve perfection.

>>3583360
>provide no further input
Sure, you can do that. I can't. I'm too busy proving the battle system is complete ass, you know?

>>3583361

WELL SAID SIRRAH

>>3583366
Oh, so you're retarded. Everyone else found the perfect, autowin-every-battle combination without any effort.

>>3583369

Except the root of which one determines something to be or not be "ass" is based upon opinion, and thereby subjective to oneself, and thereby not "provable" at all.

>>3583377

Try adding deliberate challenges.

Spoiler: no Side Kick

>>3583387

Or even figure out working combos with OTHER CHARACTERS!

How about, instead of the same Fayt/Cliff/Nel setup, try Adray/Mirage/Sophia.

Why am I even trying to defend this game

I LIKE IT YOU DON'T SHUT UP I'M STILL GONNA POST MARIA

Maria Maria Maria Maria Maria Maria

More ero content

>>3583372
>SIRRAH
Well, I thumb my nose at thee then!

Power to cause thread derailment

more like the "power to ignore rationality" olol

>>3583404

I bite my (clawed) thumb at you, sir!

>>3583379
>opinions lol
No. There is no such thing as "subjective"--all things exist as objective, observable realities. Human thought itself is entirely ruled by the natural laws, just as everything else, and so "opinion" is, indeed, objective fact. This "opinion" accounts for tiny variations based on biological differences. There are also differences based on prior experiences, but these are irrational, as this process is essentially rewriting your opinion based on what you want it to be rather than what it actually is.

Those who vary beyond the allowed error accounting for opinion are provably wrong.

Saying "In my opinion, Star Ocean 3 is a good game" is throwing all standards aside. This does not work. No two human beings think completely unalike. There ARE standards, and any opinion which challenges them is incorrect.

As some anon put it a while back, art museums, beauty, etc.

ITT butthurt fags who have never played SO2

>>3583410

>Those who vary beyond the allowed error accounting for opinion are provably wrong.

Unless they are, as deducted by society, insane.

I can tell you I am insane for Maria, and you can discredit my opinion. And then we can all go on with our lives.

>>3583410

Also, I don't believe you can set a human observed standard of quality for video games quite yet.

>>3583418
;_;

>>3583413

He's right, actually. I have yet to play SO2.

>>3583410
>No. There is no such thing as "subjective"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. At least Maria anon is not being a pretentious dicktwat.

>>3583410
>Those who vary beyond the allowed error accounting for opinion are provably wrong.
Who are you to judge exactly what this allowed error accounting is?

>>3583424

Well, I can be, if you like.

Maria is, of course, the most beautiful and perfect woman in any visual medium ever.

posting in a troll thread.

(；´Д｀)ﾊｧﾊｧ/lｧ/lｧ/ヽｧ/ヽｧ ﾉ ＼ｱ ﾉ ＼ｱ / ＼ ｱ / ＼ ｱ

Oh, the thread hit autosage.

Pff, that's not gonna stop me.

Traydor

>>3583422
You really should then, it's fucking amazing.

>>3583432
You, sir, are a fool and a cad.

>>3583445

Your lies shall not sway me.

>>3583444

I've been meaning to pick up SO: Second Evolution but I'm just soooo poooooor.

Hey, I thought this thread was going to be about me! Why is this happening?

>>3583456

Nuh uh. When I post in a thread, it's only ever gonna be about
1. Maria/Star Ocean
2. Valkyrie Profile or other assorted tri-Ace and Enix games
3. ORT
4. Nijiura Maids
5. Kaguya, Mokou, Komachi, or Shikieiki

I have the power to hijack threads, doncha know.

>>3583453
They changed some stuff and added some horribly animated videos, or so I hear. I've only played the original PS1 release, hopefully it's still the same game at heart.

SACCHIN FAITO!

>>3583456
Perhaps if you showed us your panties the thread would continue to focus on you. Just pretend I'm Shiki and pull your skirt up.

>>3583470

SO: The First Departure was fairly good. The animated sequences weren't too bad; I actually liked the one they put in for the fight with Jie Revorse.

Fuck yeah, dude stops a sword with his wrist.

Also I had actually gone into GameStop intending to get SO: Second Evolution...

But walked out with Dissidia Final Fantasy instead...

Hell, I don't regret it. It's fun.

Now that this thread is off the front page I can post lower quality ero and only a few people will notice.

I-is this okay? ...it's kind of embarrassing.

>>3583480
L-Like this?

This one is actually high quality but I do not appreciate the tentacle violation of mai waifu.

>>3583492
Oh, oh no, I'm sorry, Sion. I didn't really mean to hurt you, but I wanted this to be my thread only, so I had to make you leave...

Stop taking up my imagelimit, Sacchin.

You're next, Maria. <3

>>3583517

You realize Alteration is a Cosmic-level ability, right?

Even if she can't outright Delete you like Fayt can, she can still Alter
1. You to have the resilience of tissue paper
2. Her to have the firepower of a Creation Cannon

And of course Fayt would use Destruction if Maria asked him to.

They- they're all dead? All I wanted was to make them quiet down a bit so I could have my own thread... Tohno-kun, I didn't really mean to kill them, you must believe me! Please!

I'm running low on Maria ero.

You realize I like Maria more than ORT, right?

I can argue that Maria can DEFEAT ORT, if you like.

>>3583528
I don't care if God himself would blow up the world on her behalf, she still can't defeat me!

>>3583543

Oh and Maria + Fayt can defeat anything ever.

Even Demonbane and Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Giorno Giovana.

Deletion means there is no data for it remaining at all, and cannot be reconstituted from a different timestream.

>>3583548

Who needs God? Maria and Fayt KILLED God, who was about to delete the UNIVERSE just because they EXISTED.

>>3583551
Keine ripoff

sage even if there is no point

>>3583559

And Sophia was there to. I dunno, she may have helped or something. I think she was just there for sex.

>>3583559
But they won't defeat me!

Posting my favorite pic

You know, I alternate whether >>3583583 or >>3583360 is my favorite pic, and I honestly cannot decide.

I'm not fond of tentacles.

>>3583627

Wait, no it isn't.

Posting this image wrenches my insides, but I have to wonder... Why sea creatures?

>>3583636

Maria can happen to anyone.

That's all of my Maria ero.

Now I'm gonna post Maria x Fayt love until imagelimit.

And that is imagelimit.

Till the end of time, friends.

330 post thread.

Longest thread /jp/ has ever had?

So, humans can kill Gaia and Gaia hates humans. Is this some kind of hippie message about polution and environmentalism?