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>>351960
Mere mortals cannot match a god!

>even using continues
This is not a good way to unlock Extra stages in any Touhou game.

Marisa B. Get your Power between 3.25 and 3.95, prepare to rape bosses in three seconds with unfocused fire.

If you're honestly incapable of beating Normal without continuing, then use MarisaB(ugged) and her psuedo-Master Spark.

As long as MarisaB is between 3.00~3.95 power, the middle beam of her UNFOCUSED laser will do MASSIVE damage. You'll eat through most bosses before their danmaku even reaches you.

Of course, you're a pussy if you do it.

>>Of course, you're a pussy if you do it.

Yeah that's why I'd rather not. So what is the easiest character to win with without exploits?

Also why hasn't ZUN patched that bug yet?

>>352025
He's too busy writing official manga and accompanying short stories while dicking around with his next game.

FUCKING SWR WHERE?

>>352025
No more touhou games. ZUN agreed, don't bother him about it.

>>352021
Depends. Seems to me the majority of people around your level are in the mindset of "Okay, just dodge long enough to kill...die...DIE, DAMMIT DIE!", So perhaps it'd be better for you to just record your replays, see where you died, and figure out WHY you died. It helps for trying to decipher or memorize a pattern, as well.

>>351975

Not strong enought.

>>352045
You're doing it wrong.

>"Okay, just dodge long enough to kill...die...DIE, DAMMIT DIE!"

Well that is pretty much the goal of the game, so yeah.

Why not join our religion?

>>352073
Don't got to ask me twice.

>>352063
Juxtaposed against knowing how a pattern works and being able to know where and when to be makes instinct dodging seem really bad. Of course, there are plenty of spellcards that are nothing but instinct.

>>352060

Needs moar powar

No Church Tax, no boring prayers just Party hard!

>>352094
You forgot that we get to worship a cute loli frog-goddess, a hot snake-goddess, and a sexy priestess who may be human but looks like a goddess.

>>352073

I'd rather join Reimu's. She is cuter.

>>352099
The Priestess is a Goddess as well. It's just her powerlevel is that of a normal Human of Gensokyo

>>352101
enjoy your zombie you sick bastard

>>352099
Suwako is not loli, just not healthy.
But hell, the MoF cast contains some of the best touhou chars.
Kanako, Suwako, Sanae, Nitori and Hina.
Don't care about the rest.

>>352103
Nah. She's human. It's just that she's a descendant of Suwako. So she has some divinity in her. But not enough to really count.

>>352111
I can understand not caring about Aya? But not caring about Momizi is just wrong.

>>352111
>But hell, the MoF cast contains some of the best touhou chars.
Too bad the game is the worst one in the Windows series.

>>352112
>Her role at the Moriya Shrine is similar to a Shrine Maiden, but with her inherited power Sanae has become more like a deity herself.

>>352092
If killing bosses in three seconds isn't fast enough for you, then all hope is lost.

>>352099
Is it me or does it seem like Kanako is more powerful than Suwako?

>>352123
That's cause...she is? Kanako defeated Suwako and took over Moriya Shrine as the patron deity.

>>352123
Back in the Human world Kanako had more Faith thus was moar powerful.

Now she's collecting Fate for Suwako

>>352120
Like a deity != a deity

She's only like a deity because the tengu and kappa also worship her instead of treating her like they would a shrine maiden.

>>352119
Yeah, i forgot to add that
the lack of distinctive features for every playable character (and the lack of variaty of them) made it suck, bad.
WHERE IS MY MASTER SPARK?

I don't understand what is there to like about Suwa-ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD

>>352132
So, Suwako is more powerful in the end?

same powerlevel

>>352138
I C WAT U DID THAR
......and i lol'd, a bit.

>>352140
Not exactly, Kanako defeated Suwako to take over the shrine, but they Mutually agreed to create the false god Moriya, which they both gain faith from.

>>352140
Now, Kanako is the God of wind, but why is a snake-patterned rope her trademark?

There are two reasons.

The first is because the snake symbolizes reincarnation. It was to oppose the fear of Mishaguji.

And the second reason is because... She wanted to casually stress the fact that she won against Suwako.

Why, you ask? Suwako is a god that takes the form of a frog, and snakes eat frogs. Rituals of the new kingdom included sacrificing frogs to state that "The Snake now rules this kingdom in place of the Frog."

This is one reason why Suwako and Kanako argue a lot.

They share common interests and are actually very good friends.

Suwakos "highest of the native gods" must mean something

I prefer to think of them as having a sort of "rock-paper-scissors" relationship.
It's not so much that Suwako lost to Kanako because she was weaker, because she was the "rock" to Kanako's "paper".

Of course, if she wanted to, Kanako could easily beat "scissors" as well. She's "super paper".

>>352157
That's cause Suwako used to be the leader of all the mountain gods. Then Kanako showed up.

>>352170
Suwako and Kanako met in the human world then moved to Youkai Mountain

>>352164
Kanako is actually 'vine' apparently:

However, many other gods of Yamato (ancient Japan) invaded her kingdom. One of those gods was Kanako. The many gods of Yamato continually conquered the small kingdom for themselves. They said that ultimately, they would unify all countries and create a single country called Japan.

Naturally, Suwako resisted and fought with the finest steel weapons of the time. However, Kanako held out a thin vine, and Suwako's large steel arsenal instantly rusted. Suwako realized the difference in their divine powers and her defeat. She valiantly forfeited and relinquished her kingdom.

>>352136
Although only Reimu and Marisa are playable, both have three different formations. If that's not variety, I don't know what is. Second, despite bombs not being flashy in MoF, they are ultimately much more useful.

>>352171
Why thank you captain obvious. However, Moriya Shrine was located in the mountains in the outer world. Of all the mountain gods, Suwako was the leader of the rest of them in the outer world.

>>352187
>bombs
>more useful
ಠ_ಠ
You best be joking nigger

>>352187
I don't know if you're actually serious or trolling with this post.

>>352187
The mechanic of "bombs are shared with regular shot power" is plain stupid.
Plus, why the heck isn't there a border of life and death? that thing saved me like a billion times in PCB and IN.

Timeline hijack lol

1. Kanako vs Suwako
2. Kanako & Suwako became friends
3. Suwako pregnant
4. many generations later Sanae was born
5. Humans began to loose faith in gods
6. Kanako paniked, Suwako didn`t bother
7. Shrine moved to Youkai Mountai
8. Reimu happened
9. Nothing changed

>>352205
What about EOSD? Too hardcore for you?

>Kanako & Suwako became friends
>Suwako pregnant

I see what Kanako did here

>8. Reimu happened

fuck yeah zombie outbreak

>>352187
>RaymooA
fukken same old homing shit.

>RaymooB
yet another fukken same old shit.

>RaymooC
One of the two innovative weaponset for MoF, but it's still shit.

>MarisaA
lol Gradius V ripoff

>MarisaB
"But Marisa has HAX lasers, so yeah!"

........i just tried the marisa B bug thing
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
i pwned aya on hard in 5 seconds.

>>352227
Can't unsee.

Nor do I want to unsee now that I think about it.

>>352209
>3. Suwako pregnant

I like where this thread is going.

What I don't like about MoF is how few old characters it uses

Only Reimu, Marisa and crowbitch

>>352259
remilia is in one ending

I find ReimuA useful if you're just a beginner, since you can focus more on dodging than staying under the boss to damage it. The additional time you take helps you to get used to the cards.

prepare for character nuke!

>>352259
...wat

You're upset that a new game introduces new characters? Like how ESoD introduced Rumia, Cirno, and SDM? Or how PCB introduced Letty, Lily, Prismriver, Youmu, Yuyuko, and Yakumo-ke? Or IN with Keine, Mokou, Tewi, and the Mooninites?

>>352275
no Sakuya
no Alice
not even playable Komachi!

>>352285
Why would Alice or Komachi be playable in a game where you have to resolve an incident?

The way Gensokyo works is that youkai can easily create incidents and humans can easily solve them.

This is why in IN all the teams have a human on them. Youmu apparently counting as a human despite being half-ghost.

>>352285
zombie only
FINAL DESTINATION

>>352296
so, we could expect a playable Sanae in a game?

>>352285
Slacker gonna beat up Kananko because she works to much!

>>352305
Zun tradidion WAS to make stage 5 boss playable in the following game.
see what happened to Komachisa

>>352305
One can only hope. However, ZUN + TasoFro will finally have to fucking release SWR first.

>>352275
I don't mean that
Is just that...I dunno, IN introduces the whole Eientei, Mokou, etc...but it also has loads of old characters, either playable, as bosses or in the endings
Same with PoFV
MoF doesn't

that's all

>>352305
This tradition of having humans playable completely rapes the idea of having a playable Reisen in an actual Touhou game, though.
But the bunny was already an initial character in PoFV, so I guess she's out.

>>352212
That's a completely different thing.
EoSD was actually GOOD.
MoF has a good story, GREAT characters, and decent music (Decent, but not more than that...)
how did zun manage to fuck that up? really....

>>352325
Didn't ZUN try to go "oldschool" in MoF?
At least the part of having only Zombie & Thief and the playable ones and only new characters to be seen (with the exception of slutengu) he did right.

>>352337
We cannot forgive this

>>352337
The problem s that going 3 steps back in every aspect doesn't make a game "Oldschool"
but it IS making it BAD.

The thing about MoF is that according to ZUN it was supposed to be a sort of "return to the basics", hence why there's only two playable characters, no fancy bombs, no Border of Life and Death, and so on.

It's kinda funny that so many complaints people have about the game are involving things that the game was intentionally attempting to get away from.

It's like if someone who is used to making progressively fancier omelets with lots of ingredients decided to just make a simple batch of scrambled eggs for a change, and everyone bitched them out because there was no cheese, sausage, bacon, peppers, onions, mushrooms, or anything else in it.

>>352337
Well I don't like that

Touhou already has a shitton of characters, adding more than the necessary is just redundant to me
I can understand Kanako, Suwako and Sanae being there, but all the others? They're gonna be the next Medicine, just filler characters nobody will remember

>>352352
EVERYONE are going to remember them.
NITORI IS McGYVER GODDAMIT
how can you ever forget that?

>>352357
Ok, you got me there

I forgot about the kappa

But the rest still suck

I think the thing that annoyed me the most in MoF is that there isn't a graze marker, and that you don't get points for grazing.

The fact that I could keep an eye on it in the past games means I was always pushing myself to see how close I could actually get to the bullets. In MoF, I'm constantly trying to get out of the way.

>>352333
Zun should've realized that his touhou is no longer about SHOOTAN/DODGAN/GRAYZAN GAEMS.

>>352357
Nitori, definately.
Hina, probably.
Hell, even Aya's pet rape machine already has her own doujins, and she never even had any lines!

But the Aki sisters? No one will miss them.

>>352365
I am not a point whore, so I don't mind that

I just want my Sakuya back! ;_;

>They're gonna be the next Medicine, just filler characters nobody will remember

I too always wondered what was the fucking point about Medicine

She had virtually no connection with PoFV storyline so what the hell

>>352370

>>352348
Thanks for mentioning our best skill, man.

By the way - why do the things feel so goddamn huge in MoF? I simply can't get used to them.

And I'll never forget Hina. Mai spinning waifu ;_;
The Aki sisters... who?

>>352382
ZUNs way to troll Alice fans

lol nobody even mentioned Momizi

poor doggie

>>352396
see
>>352370

>>352396
>>Hell, even Aya's pet rape machine already has her own doujins, and she never even had any lines!

>>352382
It was funny how she was a near-end boss too.
Well, I guess poisoned flowers have something to do about the event?

I think their names are Minoriko and Shizuha. Or something along those lines.

>>352396
Canada-tan is more recognizable than the Aki sisters.

>>352352
ZUN has basically said that the games revolve around the stories, not the other way around. And a new story requires new characters. Furthermore, adding new faces expands the world and keeps things fresh. If we just went to the SDM in every game, it would be like a Megaman game where we think "Gee whiz, a new Megaman game, who wants to take bets that Dr. Wily is the final boss?" This is also the reason why official comics and short stories are their own stories, instead of just rehashes of the games. The same would be true of a TV series, if ZUN ever broke down and allowed one, he said.

>>352413
This reminds me how awesome Megaman World V for GameBoy was, having SunStar ass the final boss.
And the whole game was awesome too.

manchin

>>352403
Yeah, Shizuha and Minoriko. But I had to wiki it to be sure. Isn't it sad, Shicchin and Micchin?

I agree with the addittion of new characters, but old ones should come back too

Flandre, Yuka, China, etc...

>>352442
Old characters should make a come back if the story calls for them. Like in IaMP, IN, and PoFV.

I don't understand why people whine about old characters being left away after playing PoFV

Damn, that game even had YUKA, and Yuka was from the fucking pre-windows era!

>>352457
So is Alice.

>>352457
And it was awesome.

>>352442
China would be fitting for every Touhou game.

China: "Hey Zombie you want to invade SDM again?"
Zombie: "No, I have to beat the crap out of Mars people!"
China: "Then why are you heading this way?"
Zombie: "I'm not, Im heading toward Mars portal!"
China: "No, SDM is this way!"
Zombie: "Brains? no!"
China: "Look behind me, there is the SDM!"
Zombie: " Oh..."
China: "See? I might beat you up for your follishness."

>>352419
Hell yeah it was. That was probably my favorite Megaman game ever. It seriously needs remade for the DS.

>>352442
>Flandre, Yuka, China, etc...

Fucking signed the three of them

>>352382
She lived on the hill with all the flowers or something like that.

>>352428
She is throat cancer-tan to me. I mean, look at whatever that thing on her throat is.

>>352442
a yuka&flandre team would be fun

>>352470
No she was thrown away there and turned into a youkai

I don't want China to appear in another game because ZUN would fuck her personality like we know it

>>352472
Nevermind the impossibility of it all.

>>352472
oh shi...

>>352471
Holy shit, she has John McCain's cheek for a chin!

I wonder if we'll get a game related to SSiB. Regardless of how much it kinda sucks at the moment. The manga that is.

>>352472
they would kill each other off

fuck, that's even better that they making a team!

>>352486
Fuck yeah, moon invasion shooting game.

And then everyone went back to the shrine and had some tea.

The problem with old characters reappearing for furture games is the whole thing that humans solve non-human screw-ups.

PoFV was the exception since it wasn't a screw-up to begin with. IaMP doesn't count since it's a fighting game. Same for SWR.

>>352472
Remi/Flan team would be more fitting.
If you want pure awesomeness, a Yuka/Mima would explode everyone's computer when selected.

>>352486
instead of playing a loli you control that wacky rocketship on its way to the moon

>>352491
No, they will have tea on the moon to break up the monotony!

Yuka/Cirno

FUND IT

>>352499
Trinity dual twilight spark would blow a dragons head off!

>>352508
Mokou/Cirno!

Can touhoes breathe in space?

>>352512
As long as they have their hats on.

>>352511
Actually, Yuka/Mokou would be very fitting since only an immortal could team up with Yuka

Also lol fire and flowers

>>352511
Kaguya/Mokou

>>352515
what aboyt yuka then?

>>352521
as long she has her parasol

>>352491
>And then everyone went back to the shrine and had some tea.

>>352521
Yuka has already proven to be at least as powerful, if not moreso, than your average Mongol.

So yes. She can breathe in space.

>>352527
plot twist: the shrine is on the moon

>>352527
Yuyuko was so moe in that chapter. I laughed when she fucking swiped a bottle of wine from the party in her outfit.

>>352504
I'm thinking it would be more like Toejam and Earl. Playing as Sakuya you would wander around the world looking for spaceship parts. And along the way you'll make with the bullets shooting bullets and whatnot. Then after you complete the ship, you fly to the moon and you and the Lunarians get down with your bad selves as MC Marisa serves up some fresh rhymes and funky beats.

>>352499
Except that a Remi/Flan team would get nowhere in a normal game unless ZUN pulls another eternal darkness plot. Being that they are vampires and sunlight is kind of a hinderance to them.

>>352533
EVEN BETTER

Yukari gaps the hakurei shrine to the moon for the lulz

is up to reimu to fuck lunarian's shit up and go back home

maybe she could team up with sakuya since she's supposed to be lunarian or something

>>352539
FUND IT

what about a game where YOU are the bosses and fairies, and try to set up patterns to stop the zombie outbreak?

>>352535
Or if they wanted to kill the whole world with moe

>>352539
>Playing as Sakuya you would wander around the world looking for spaceship parts.

"These items are for the spell to go to the Moon. My lady insisted that she wanted to go there before dawn, so I collected the materials required for it. I would have returned everything back to you when the sun rises."

"A pipe is a substitute for a rocket; a spinning top is for a gyroscope. The blood of a snapping turtle works as a liquid fuel and it looks like one, doesn't it? Of course, the Hakkero is a rocket engine... Still, I really have no idea what Armstrong meant."

>>352551
>The blood of a snapping turtle works as a liquid fuel
Wait. What?

>>352551
>>352539
point & click adventure
FUCK YEAH

>>352551

Anybody seeing this like Putt-Putt goes to the Moon?

>>352570
Yeah, you know you want to be CLICKAN your way through the bowels of the SDM, over The Lake, through the forest of magic, the zombie shrine, Eientei, etc. Maybe even allow you to recruit a partner for some co-op play. Patchy is too busy and sickly to leave the library, but Cirno could probably be recruited with the promise of shiny things. Yes, I foresee an epic battle when Cirno meets Suwako for the first time. Then, when she's no longer useful, rape and/or ditch her and back to the mansion.

>>352121
Source?

>>352620
http://www.geocities.jp/nwqkp334/

>>352486
Danmaku style Moon Patrol with Alice and Reimu on a jalopy.

>>352565
GENJI! NOO!

>>352511