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let's all cool down a little bit

>>35102680
This, I just want to have a friendly thread.

Ciconia phase 2 preview here:
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/07th_Public_Bath_2021

How's Ciconia Phase 1 bros? should I just wait until they're all done or should I play it now?

This thread will also be free of all the meanness from before! I believe in you all! Uu-uu!

>>35102706
Does it say when it's coming out?

>>35102724
As always, the beginning is super slow but the ending is quite interesting. Play it if you're ready to handle the eternal wait for Phase 2

>>35102836
I'll play it when we get a release date, I hate getting invested in a story only to be taken out of it and forced to wait for a couple months

>>35102781
Thanks maria :)

Isn't there supposed to be some type of announcement tonight about higurashi?

>>35102973
Yeah, but it's probably just gonna be some type or merch revel
https://twitter.com/higu_anime/status/1401552801273053189

>>35103040
Well, at least it's something. You never know, it could have something to do with sotsu!

Never mind, turns out it's a booth in some type of museum.
https://twitter.com/higu_anime/status/1401705467798118400

>>35103212
Well, there's always next time anon! We only got about a month left until sotsu airs, and we have the newest gou chapter coming out on the 18th.

>>35102860
Ciconia will take few years to come out fully. We might have around three years between Phase 1 and Phase 2. Phase 3 might comes out faster, but Ryukishi himself said that he can't write a full episode in 6 months like Umineko and Higurashi anymore.

>>35103339
Jeez, that sucks. The worst part is if i choose to just wait and play them when they're all out, I'm certain I'm gonna be spoiled on some major key moments. I'm probably just gonna bite the bullet and play it now. The wait's gonna suck but what can you do.

>We have to wait a total of seven months until sotsu is completely finished.
>We have no idea when phase 2 is coming out
What do we do now bros? Want to talk about Umineko?

>>35104004
For now, we can't do anything more than speculate, perhaps mysteries can stave off the boredom

>>35104075
Well don't worry bro, I plan on releasing my purple mystery tomorrow. I still have a shit ton of work left to do, but I plan on pulling an all-nighter. It should be up around the Evening!

>>35104104
I'm looking forward to it! I have been thinking of making my own mystery but I'm a little unsure if they must be related to WTC (using the characters or a scenario from the novel) or if I can get away with using the coloured truths only.

>>35104127
I don't think people'll mind if you use your own characters, it's just that using the characters from the VNs tends to make it easier for readers to understand them, so long as the writer tries to stay within their character. It removes the need to set up characters if we already know them, after all. Plus it tends to be easier to write an already established character rather than coming up with yor own. If you're confident you can do it though, then go for it! I'm always up to reading an interesting mystery!

>>35104165
I think I'll just go with making my own characters since in one of my mystery ideas, the characters don't exactly have many characteristics other than being victims, and in the second mystery, the victims are relatives of a certain infamous political figure. Thanks, anon.

Why are there 4 threads up

>>35104199
/07/th has imploded, don't worry though, things usually turn out for the best

What role do you think Maria will play in Ciconia? Considering her potential to become the Creator, her involvement in Ciconia should be expected.

>>35104127
I would say you have a lot of freedom when it comes to mysteries. I personally don't care if the characters are WTC-related or not, But it's easier for people who are new to mysteries to get a grasp of the story. My own mystery has almost nothing to do with the source material, I'm just using the sprites. As long as it's a Mystery that is set within the game rules it should be good!.

>>35104165
My personal favorite trick I setting it a mystery to where the player assumes a lot about the personality of the character since I'm using a sprite from Umineko, only to have them act in a completely different way!

>>35104186
Sounds pretty kino anon, You got to let me know when you're able to post it!

https://twitter.com/higu_anime/status/1401735669400150016

Sotsu starts on July 1st.

>>35104240
Maria is dead anon

>>35104240
None.

>>35104242
Also it's 2 episodes in a row on the first day, one right after the other.

>>35104254
that's a heavy pog

>>35104240
Assuming she does show up in Ciconia, she would probably be extremely jaded from the amount of time she has been alive. I don't think we will be getting happy Maria that we know from Umineko but rather a being who has been alive for a painfully long amount of time :(

>>35104242
>>35104254
LET'S GO, BROS!!!

>>35104269
I just want her to be happy...

>>35104240
Is it true that all of Umineko and Higurashi took place inside some type of brainjar?

>>35104281
Same bro :(

>>35104281
She can't be happy, Battler's already taken...

>>35104283
Having everything be a simulation would be a little cheap in my opinion but it would make a lot of sense in Higurashi's case with the blatant supernatural aspects (Hanyuu, Rika looping).

>>35104240
Would MARIA even be a full-fledged creator at the time that Ciconia takes place?

>>35104331
Before playing Umineko, I probably would've hated the idea of it all taking place inside some brain, but now I honestly wouldn't really mind. It would still suck ass for Higurashi though

>>35104358
Yeah, it kind of sucks to know that your favourite characters possibly had their spines and brains torn from their bodies and are forced to live in these eternal loops of repeated murder and revival. At the very least, in the Umineko gameboard, the pieces have the Golden Land but I'm not sure if any Higus have the same luxury of having a paradise to escape to.

>>35104350
All we know is that MARIA has future potential to become the creator, but apparently the longer a witch lives on, the more fucked up the concept of time becomes. I'm not really sure how long it would take MARIA to become the creator but if she lives at least 1000 years she should be on the same level of existence or higher than Bern or Lambda. Judging by how Higurashi Gou is going, Bern and Lambda managed to live 1000 years through the loops so maybe MARIA can spend 1000 years doing chuuni shit with Ange in the golden land

>>35104456
If that's the case, MARIA is so fucking lucky she doesn't need to be murdered over and over again for her ascension to become a high-levelled witch. Now I understand why Bern hated magic so much lol

>>35104403
Rethabile is such a pathetic creature. Despite being royalty, she is still human and poops just like any dirty peasant. Her smelly ass is just as embarrassing and shameful as the ass of any commoner.

What gives her the right to be a princess and live in a beautiful palace without working? What does it mean to be a "princess"? She's a dirty fucking human just like the rest. She's not entitled to special treatment. She poops, farts, sweats, has smelly feet... She is normal ass human. And yet, she is supposed to be special because she's royalty. Bullshit.

I hope the ACR loses the war and the winning factions show the impoverished peasants just how disgracefully HUMAN their princess really is! The humanization of Rethabile! Lewd! The exposure of her human condition! Pathetic! I bet racists would enjoy humiliating her and making her into a black slave!

I hope she's paraded around town, completely naked, stripped of any dignity, pride or honor as a human being. Forced to shit herself and clean it up with her tongue in front of an audience. Forced to vomit it all up, admitting that, yes, her shit stinks just like the shit of any other human, despite her being a princess. She's not special. This will be televised all over the world! And every single one of her former close friends will be forced to kick her naked black ass before her execution!

She's part of the royal family in a country with a massive cult of personality, North Korea style. She officially does not poop like commoners do. She doesn't even have an anus. Nobody in her family does. This is taught in schools all across Africa and everyone believes it. That puts her above the foolish masses as a human being, since she lacks the one thing that prevents pride and dignity from being permanent. Even if it's all fake, she has more than enough reason to be prideful and a bit full of herself.

Which means that the only way to prevent the ACR citizens from wanting war is to have Rethabile throw away her dignity and expose her anus in public television/selcomtube. That would prove that nobody in the royal family is superior to regular humans and therefore the pride of the ACR is a load of shit. It would kill everyone's national pride and make them surrender peacefully to the other factions, with no casualties except the princess' pride. And the pride of every single one of her family members, including the actual heir to the throne.

I mean, she's human and that means she shits. Any pride resulting from her royalty status is bullshit. I want an Erika expy to appear in Ciconia and expose the naked truth to all of Africa, with the help of Rethabile who wants to see her family go down. Even if it means sacrificing her dignity and destroying the image people have of her, revealing the fact that she poops. If Erika's 296 pieces of evidence are not enough to convince the masses, the princess could make the ultimate sacrifice: take a shit right then and there, in public, after telling everybody to scan her face on selcom to guarantee that she's in fact part of the supposedly non-shitting family and not an imposter.

It's a pretty lewd idea for a doujinshi: Rethabile consciously deciding to humiliate herself for the good of her people! Nobody is forcing her to do it, and yet she does it because it's the right thing to do! Even if deep down she wants to chicken out and preserve her dignity! She still does it while trembling in shame!

The fact that she's not being forcibly humiliated is hella lewd. She's not even being coerced or blackmailed into doing it. She has a noble spirit and she chose to humiliate herself, even though she's so embarrassed she could die, even though she really doesn't want to do it. Even so, she knows it's for the best. It's the right thing to do.

So she slowly drops her panties, blushing heavily, her pulse accelerating, her mind telling her that she still has a chance to stop, her heart telling her that she must do it for the people. And then, she forces a big smile, pretends not to be dying from embarrassment, ignores the knowledge that she's shattering her dignity and her life will never be the same... and pulls them down completely, exposing her dark brown African ass that is about to take a shit in public.

>no public bath scene where she discusses her decision with Miyao and the others and ultimately comes to the conclusion that it's a worthy sacrifice
>why live
How would she even bring up the topic?

What the fuck am I reading? Ryuukishi belongs in a mental institution.

Witch Maria leaked

The fact that Naima was so nonchalant about wanting to put on a naked avatar when she was first invited to Miyao's public bath is pretty suspicious. It implies she has a naked body scan of herself at hand, ready to be used at any moment. Especially because nobody batted an eye at the revelation that she had one, only to the fact that she wanted to expose it without thinking.

It implies that preteen lolis in this universe explore their sexuality by communicating with people through Selcom. Nobody can trace that or even know it's happening inside their head, so it's common knowledge in A3W society that girls do lewd stuff on Selcom from a young age. It's something everybody knows but nobody talks about because it's an uncomfortable truth. Just like dads IRL don't want to think about their daughters masturbating.

I bet Naima trades nudes with some pedo that communicated with her mentally in the middle of the street. I bet she sends pics of her spread butthole to handsome young guys she finds attractive, because she's exploring her exhibitionism fetish or because she wants them to send dick pics back. Self-destructing files are a thing in Ciconia, so this shit is totally canon and the only reason girls can do this shit without being blackmailed or exposed online is that the pics are impossible to copy and self-delete after viewing.

This is what would happen realistically with Selcom technology, I'm not even joking. So it must be canon in Ciconia. Naima and Chloe are porn sluts. Unless Naima is so modest and religious she doesn't allow herself to do that shit. But being 12, she probably has a hard time resisting the instant sexual gratification Selcom provides. It's not just a few clicks away, it's literally in her head, so all it takes is Naima being horny one day for her to fall down the rabbit hole of telepathic sexting.

>>35104496
>Writes autistic fantasies in grimoire for 1000+ years
>Ascends to a state of existence that no other has reached
Best WTC girl without a doubt

>>35104526
Selcom is nightmare fuel for any helicopter parent. Imagine knowing your daughter could have disabled the filters, looked up all sorts of porn and sent nudes to multiple people. The helicopter parent would NEVER be able to tell if this is happening or not, because there's no way to check her brain and she would obviously lie and pretend she has no idea. Whether your daughter is a 7th grade Selcomwhore or genuinely pure and innocent, you can never know for sure and will always live with the paranoia. At that point it would become something that everyone begrudgingly accepts and doesn't think about, because it's impossible to do anything about it. Imagine how cucked those parents would feel! At any moment their kids could be doing anything online inside their head, even in front of their own parents! They could be getting Indoctrinated or lured into a cult without their parents being able to prevent it!

I assume this is all canon, just not something the story focuses on. The stupid easy availability of porn and self-humiliation without consequences would also contribute to people not giving a fuck about dating or reproducing, which facilitates the state-run baby factories and prevents the average poorfag from having ciconia kids by accident.

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Good night anons

>>35104523
I wonder how maria's life would've turned out if she lived to be an adult?

>>35104552
ask ryukishi.

>>35104549
Good night bro!

>>35104549
Good night my beloved anonymous

>>35104541
Yeah at this point just ignore them and hide their posts.

I bet Satoko would go full mindbreak with Hinamizawa Syndrome and the creepy doctors would be forced to tie up her hands so she doesn't kill herself.

I bet Mion would cry herself to sleep every day as she hears a mindbroken Satoko convulsing and Rena puking inside her mouth-asshole closed room because she can't take it anymore.

Mion's hairy teenage asshole would be burned by Rena's gastric acid and Rena would have to swallow her own vomit enema straight from Mion's asshole.

All four of them would be super sweaty and completely naked, their unshaven body hair exposed for all the mad scientists to see.

And their noses would be dripping with snot because they can't stop crying. They would also have near death experiences as their snot-filled noses make it hard for them to breathe.

They would probably develop a pseudo-language based on grunts and moans so they can tell the person in front to shit a bit more slowly because they are fucking choking on the shit. And I bet Shion would take advantage of the situation and intentionally ignore Mion's grunts. She would let all that diarrhea out in a single shot, to make Mion suffer a bit.

>this will never be a real episode from Rena's point of view
>you will never get to read Rena's thought as she goes through this experience
>"I'm so sorry, Satoko-chan! Please don't hate me for this!"
>BBBRRRRRRRRPPPPP
Why live?

>>35104561
Okay, do you have his Phone number?

I don't quite agree with that, but I see your point. This is subjective after all. Although I believe Takano was more traumatized by grandpa commiting suicide than anything else. Her obsession with fulfilling his dream was probably a way to do something for him because she can't leave things like that, she can't bear what happened to him. If he had simply died in his sleep suddenly, she wouldn't have been as obsessed with it to the point of doing so many cruel things.

I guess humiliation depends on your perspective. If I'm the one being humiliated, I see nothing lewd about it. If I put myself in Ange's shoes and think about how she must've felt from a first person perspective, there's nothing lewd about it either. Only despair. But realistically, I will never be anyone other than myself. I'll never be Ange or a random female rape victim on the news. Putting myself in their place is easy, but it requires a conscious effort. It's an action, not something as natural as being myself and identifying with my own ego, which is effortless.

So, as long as the humiliation is even slightly lewd in some obscure way, a part of me can enjoy it despite my other side feeling awful for the victim. Because I'll never be that person. I can put myself in her place, but I can always go back to being myself. I'm not stuck being her, like she is, so the pain of her humiliation is something I can distance myself from if I want and enjoy the lewd part of it. She can't.

I guess the exception would be if my loli cousin got raped or stripped naked by bullies. I'd be too emotionally attached to ever be able to think about coldly, no matter how hard I tried. The indignation would be too much to ever let me appreciate the lewdness of the event, which is something the bullies can easily appreciate for obvious reasons.

I'm not sure about my female friends being raped. I'd say I wouldn't find it lewd in any way, but I'm not too sure. Depends on how close we are emotionally speaking. If she's just an acquaintance, a part of me could easily lewd the situation if I tried hard enough and suppressed the pity I feel for her.

>>35104617
Imagine the kidnappers forcing Rena and Mion (mere days into the torture) to decide which one gets to be free while the other stays with them to be tortured for the rest of her short life. They have to beat each other up and the one who wins can go free.

Imagine those great friends totally naked, punching, scratching, kicking, hurting each other, trying to pull out each other's eyes with their fingers, trying to make the other surrender and admit defeat so they can save their own asses and leave the other in that hell. Imagine them looking at each other with hatred, fearing the mere thought of any more torture, willing to seriously hurt their best friend if it means they can be free from that nightmare,

Rena and Mion becoming mere animals! Fighting to the death out of fear! Pathetic!

>>35104597
Imagine Satoko completely butt-naked with her asshole broken, with her face red from shame and anger, screaming at her friends to get the fuck out and stop looking at her, but they don't get it. She awkwardly stands up, barely covering her ripe hebe body with her hands and starts trying to punch them while still covering herself with the other hand, yelling at the top of her lungs to make them go away.

Lewd! They don't get why she's so ashamed, they are too focused on comforting her after the rape! And Satoko can't do anything to force them out because she's small, weak and naked! She has to stand there humiliating herself until they get the hint and leave the room in a hurry!

In Tsumihoroboshi, we learn about Rena's secret hideout. We also learn that she has supplies necessary for living in the hideout, such as a bed, a blanket, pillows, a flashlight for when it's dark, books for entertainment, and, most most importantly, tissues. The existence of tissues implies that Rena stays on her hideout for such long periods of time, she might have to shit or pee. How does she do it? Peeing is easy, she can just use a bush nearby, but what about shit? She needs to clean herself afterwards, and the nearest trashcan to dispose of the issues must be quite far away. Worse yet, what if she runs out? She must not replace the things in her hideout very often. It'd be fine if the poop came hard and clean out, but wet poop would be a different story. Would she use the river? How would she dispose of the poop? I don't think a lady like Rena would just leave her smelly shit roasting in Hinamizawa's hot sun. Maybe she uses a bag to store her shit. How much I'd love to sneak into Rena's hideout and steal her shitbag and her poop-stained tissues... maybe I could even buy some chemistry equipment and find out the composition, so I'll know exactly what Rena-chan ate that day. It'd be amazing. Better yet, imagine living in Hinamizawa, going to the junkyard to look for re-usable trash or just because you're lost, and catching Ryuugu Rena pissing in a bush. Your eyes meet, and you look away, saying an apology. She mutters an "i-it's okay" and cleans herself up, then awkwardly walks away. You go home, and she'd probably forget about it eventually, but tonight you'd masturbate violently. The thought of such a happy, innocently-seeming girl who constantly talks about 'kyute' things doing something as crass as relieving herself in public... how erotic. And how embarrassed she was that you caught her! In a secret spot, where she felt safe doing her business out in the open, squatting and spreading her legs to let the stream out. It must've been utterly humiliating. Realizing that is exactly when you finally begin to cum buckets. Rena Ryuugu, you really are something else...

>>35104606
Well, since you asked.
Imagine studying magic and the occult for decades, intent on reaching your one goal no matter what happens to you. Imagine spending twenty hours a day or more engrossed in studying dusty grimoires and obscure medieval tomes. Imagine slowly coming to sense a world above our own, then slowly gaining the ability to touch it. Imagine drawing a detailed magic circle all over the floor of your room, sleeping in your kitchen so you don't disturb it. Imagine lighting dozens of candles and chanting for hours until your voice becomes hoarse and you start feeling drowsy, but powering through it all with your intent to reach your goal. Imagine that after calling out in an unspeakable language for days at a time, you feel a faint voice answer. Imagine almost not believing your eyes as a wind blows in your room despite the windows being closed. Imagine seeing a girl you've never seen before suddenly standing just outside your chalk circle, regarding you expressionlessly with her purple eyes. Imagine her asking in a grand, stately voice what miracle it is you wish for and what you are willing to give up to find it.
Imagine her shocked and slightly disgusted look when you look her in the eye and tell her your only desire is to lift up her dress and blow a big raspberry right on her tummy, making her laugh as if it was a joke for a second before trailing off as you maintain your gaze. Imagine her trying to flee back to the sea of fragments before discovering that your incantations have trapped her until she fulfills your wish. Imagine her expression going from slight amusement, to disgust, to horror as she realizes what she has to do to escape. Imagine looking at her with a serious expression that slowly becomes a perverted smile and stepping towards her as she starts frantically threatening you with eternal torture or being tossed into the bottom of the void if you dare touch her, knowing full well that she can't do a thing to you until the contract is completed, until a look of tight determination crosses her and she begrudgingly allows you to approach. Imagine slowly lifting up the frilly hem of her dress and catching a glimpse of her incredibly soft, pale, smooth tummy and cute belly button, as the faint scent of an unearthly fragrance wafts into your nose. Imagine the sight of it filling your whole field of vision until your lips gently press against her belly and you hesitate for just a moment before blowing a huge PPHPHHFFFFFTTTTTTT right on top of it, savoring the feeling of your lips against the softness of her stomach. Imagine the sheer disgust and shame she would feel as a mere mortal makes her, a thousand-year-old Great Witch of the Senate, undergo such a humiliating act. Imagine her cheeks turning red as she vows to put you through torture never before seen in any fragment as you casually step back and tell her she can go now before cracking open a book and sitting back, completely ignoring her. Imagine her promising you a life of pain and bad fortune like few who have ever lived as she disappears back into the sea of fragments, face still bright red, while one hand unconsciously rubs her belly. Imagine suddenly hearing a voice you've never heard before thank you for the fun show as a piece of candy suddenly materializes on your desk.

>Keiichi
>intellectually gifted and looks down on his dumb classmates in the city
>Satoko and Rika want his dick when he moves to Hinamizawa
>canonically pedo as fuck
>likes a girl with orange hair
>stressed by his studies
>fantasizes about dressing lolis in humiliating outfits (Meakashi rant)
>started studying because he found it easy and it got him praise, but ended up hating it because it became the norm and his parents expected more and more
>only became a cunt by chance, because they gifted him a BB gun and he decided to do exactly what the warning text said not to do
>laughs internally during class because he's the culprit of the shooting incidents that have the city in a panic
>justifies his actions because he's enduring so much stress and deserves an outlet
>"I'm only having my fair share of fun to make up for all the pain, so this is fair and I'm still not a bad guy!"

>Kanamori
>pretty smart and feels he deserves to have a higher position in the school staff
>loved by the lolis in his class because he's attractive
>canonically pedo as fuck
>likes a girl with orange hair
>stressed at work
>fantasizes about dressing lolis in humiliating outfits (internal monologue scene)
>started out as an idealistic teacher with noble goals, but was disappointed by the shitty kids and unrewarding hard work
>only became a cunt by chance, because he happened to find an outlet in a pathetically submissive girl with no self-esteem
>laughs internally during staff meetings because he feels superior to the other teachers who don't have access to loli pussy
>justifies his actions because he's enduring so much stress and deserves an outlet
>"if you balance the good and the bad I've done so far, I can still be considered a good person!"

Kanamori is literally Keiichi except without empathy. Psychopath Keiichi.

Also, if you take into account Tatarigoroshi Keiichi, both characters end up reluctantly visiting a doctor the day after committing murder and immediately go back to the scene of the crime to search for incriminating evidence as soon as they get out of the infirmary. So many similarities. What are the chances that this character wasn't written as a psycho Keiichi? Ryuukishi was clearly thinking of him when he wrote the first chapter of Higanbana. Even the nurse that hits on Kanamori looks and acts like Mion and both characters are associated with a fancy doll.

>Ange stripped by schoolgirl-goats in EP8 implying bullies did that to her in the past

That entire scene in EP8 is suspicious as fuck. They use custom school girl goat sprites that never appear anywhere else when it could've been done in text only or the scene could've been represented in some other way. Isn't it strange to represent Ange facing the truth that particular way? Goat girls eating through her clothes at school and licking her naked body all over (it's literally described this way, I'm not even joking.

That scene is hinting at her biggest trauma, the day she got stripped naked by bullies. It's canon. It also explains why she's so willing to kill herself and doesn't try to do something else with her life before jumping off a skyscraper. Her dignity is broken since that day and she lost all her confidence. Especially considering they might have spread rumors about it or even filmed it all with a 90s video camera. She's fucking done with life since that day.

Why do you think she waited until Eva's death to go to the rooftop and kill herself? She wanted to at least know what happened on the island, even though deep down she was so humiliated she wanted to die. When Eva went into convulsions without telling anything, that was her signal to kill herself because she never learned the truth and she stayed alive for nothing.

Why do you think the scene with her classmates ends so abruptly with Ange denying Mammon and shit? Why do we never learn what happened after that? Because this is what happened. She got stripped naked by the bullies. Strongly implied in this goat scene in EP8.

Remember that they were all surrounding Ange, in an empty classroom in the evening, with no teachers around. And right before the end of the scene, Ange had given up and read the letter humiliating herself. She was broken and didn't care about anything anymore. She submitted herself to their will and would do what they wanted. This is what leads to her stripping and degradation. Remember how she was unable to move in the scene with the goats. It represents her unwillingness to stand up for herself, letting the bullies do as they please.

Sure, there was no filming, blackmailing OR ice cubes. Those are memes. But she did get stripped to AT LEAST her underwear after she read the letter, gave up on her dignity, erased her imaginary friends and and became a tool for them to humiliate as they please.

It's similar to how Satoko was canonically molested in Tatarigoroshi but people meme about her getting buttraped, which is an exaggeration.

The fact that Satoko's cell has a bed and a TOILET! She's a human and the board of directors acknowledges it! She needs to sleep and shit! Pathetic! She may want to avoid bringing up that topic because it's humiliating, especially in a school full of high class rich girls, but being faced with that cell where only a bed and a shitter exist forces her to ackowledge it in front of her teachers!

Imagine Satoko using her trap skills to switch the exam sheets with one of Rika's stuck up friends! Imagine Satoko setting up a trap and blaming it on one of those bitches! Imagine that high society bitch being forced into one of those cells and having to shit and pee in the same room where she sleeps! Imagine her shame when they bring in some food and the visitor gets to smell the shameful sweaty air and the toilet where she does the deed!

She will never be able to look at the teacher's face again! She was confronted with her shameful humanity and forced to expose it to everyone coming in! She had no privacy!

I think the buttsweat of a literal cute is a nice alternative to shit. It's slightly disgusting but becomes full lewd if the girl is cute and has a good personality, totally negating the disgust while still retaining the taboo and humiliating nature of it. Plus, it's produced by the literal cuteのbody and has a distinct musky butt smell that has nothing to do with shit, making it both more palatable (in the gross/lewd scale) and more personal than literal rotten food.

The arses of human girls are almost always clean or dirty, with no in-between. That's the reason why buttsweat is underrated and often completely ignored, to the point many self-proclaimed perverts don't even know it exists or that it has its own scent not associated with shit in the slightest.

Aya-chan from Higanbana is the best example of this. She's clean but exercises a lot during the story, giving her butt a sweaty aroma that would be disgusting for her fellow loli classmates but extremely delicious for any pervert. Truly, the best balance between gross and lewd. Lewdness that comes from something "objectively disgusting" being seen as lewd is completely different (and more powerful) from regular lewdness. Especially in the case of a loli, whose body has few erotic traits beyond the butt and a couple other parts.

There's nothing more erotic than Satoko sweaty butt crack after a hot shower and 30 minutes of exercise. The faint smell of her butt at that time is the essence of what it means to be a human rori.

Would Satoko's buttsweat taste good? Not really. Probably somewhere in the middle, closer to bad than good. But the realization that something produced by Satoko's butt crack doesn't taste good would be so humanizing, so erotic, so mindblowing, you probably wouldn't care about the taste. It's still a magical feeling, similar to translating God's wisdom. She's so cute... and yet. And yet. So impossibly cute it makes the idea of her being disgusting in any way completely impossible to believe. Even though you know. Even though you tasted her buttsweat. Even then, the idea of her as a perfect creature is firmly planted in your mind and won't be destroyed no matter how much TRUTH you throw at it, trying to deny its existence.

So if you think about it, the existence of a cute loliのliteral ass is the closest think we have to real magic. To God's wisdom. It's an illusion of perfection that can't be erased no matter how much evidence and disgusting truths you are exposed to. And so, humiliation is a form of magic and Witch of Humiliation is a totally valid title. After all, Human Dignity is a gold truth. A consensus that can be inferior or superior to the cold hard facts depending on your disposition.

Humiliation is like BDSM.

In the same way a girl can enjoy being sexually tortured as long as she knows her boyfriend won't really hurt her and she has a safe word, you can enjoy lewding the most humiliating parts of your waifu's human condition because you know nothing will ever make her truly disgusting in your eyes.

In the same way a girl can enjoy getting her nipples playfully teased and bitten, you can enjoy the idea of smelling Satoko's feet and used socks, because you know that no amount of disgusting loli feet sweat can ever truly make her unattractive.

In the same way Gunhild is in perfect control of her gauntlet and can pull of crazy stunts confidently without fear of getting herself killed by accident, you can lewd her shameful ass and even see it taking a shit being confident that something like this isn't enough to make her unattractive. She's still hot even after taking a shit in front of you!

Humiliation is a test to see how much you like your waifu and how hot she really is. The more humiliation she can withstand without losing her appeal, the better she is.

I had the weirdest dream tonight. I was some random guy having a drink with Meixue at a restaurant. I mentioned someone's name and she started laughing at how stupid it sounded and made a really lame pun about it (I don't remember what the name was). Then she fell down saying that someone had poisoned her drink.

Then I was Meixue herself and I was sitting on a hospital bed. The doctor was near the bed talking to some visitor but I couldn't tell who it was. My body felt really weak and I struggled to keep my eyes open, my consciousness was impaired somehow. The doctor kept explaining that the poison had paralyzed me and they needed to get it out of my system.

Then I was Alan and I was visiting Meixue at the hospital in the middle of the night. She was better and could move her body but was still a bit tired. I tried to kiss her, but she refused. I kept insisting and she fell over backwards over the other side of the bed and I got to see her naked ass (she was wearing one of those humiliating hospital gowns that expose your butt). It was a really plump ass that contrasted nicely with her slim waist. I spanked her ass like 10 times and she started laughing because "I missed the first two slaps and it made a dull sound when I hit the bed". I grabbed her and made her sit back up, and she kept laughing and told me that it was OK to kiss her and fuck her now. I was about to remove the covers to see her naked body and hairy pussy, when suddenly a scary mafioso showed up at the door.

He looked like Davis Degawa on drugs but he wasn't wearing glasses and his eyes made it clear he was either on drugs or absolutely deranged. He was also wearing a worn out yellow outfit that made him look like a mix between a detective and a gangster. The fedora was yellowish brown.

He pulled out a knife and told me to reveal our names. I said she was Meixue and I was Alan. He told me to step out of the room with him. Suddenly, the outside of the room was no longer a hospital corridor and it looked more like a small hotel. I went down the stairs with him and at some point he grabbed me from behind and pointed the knife at my neck. He made me walk to a phone in the corner of the dining room where a bunch of people were having dinner, but they ignored us. Then, he took a couple of paper sheets out of a drawer under the phone and told me to write what he told me. I was supposed to write a letter for Richard saying that Meixue gunned us all down with a machinegun. I started writing but he was really obnoxious and wanted me to write the message in a very particular way. I kept fucking up because he was giving me vague instructions instead of saying the exact words he wanted me to write. Every time he pushed the knife closer to my throat. I kept fucking up the words and making him mad. He kept telling me that I had to adress the letter to the "executive", so I assumed it was Richard, but he scramed at me saying that the executive was the name of the country (what the fuck) and made me erase it and do it again.

At some point I got scared for my life because he was getting angry at my fuck ups, so I casually grabbed his arm to prevent him from pushing the knife any closer to my throat. He struggled and we fell down on top of the table where those people were eating (they were like 5 meters away, but somehow we got there in an instant). I felt something on my throat and worried that the knife might have cut me, but I wasn't really sure if I was wounded at all. I took the knife from him and stabbed his throat like 5 times, then I fell down and fell asleep wondering if I was unharmed or bleeding profusely. I didn't care which one it was.

>>35104729
You clearly don't understand what I'm talking about. I'm not referring to anything that complex or exclusive to Ryuukishi's writing. Alright? I'm talking about basic stuff that is in EVERY piece of literature known to man. Think of any book you like from any author.

Speedreaders like the one I mentioned appear to be incapable of fully engaging with a story because they read like automatons and don't think at all while they do it. They empty their mind as they read and simply absorb information, without thinking to themselves about it or understanding anything implicit in the text that ANY normal reader would get.

For example, rememeber the scene where the old woman asks about Maria's age and Rosa flies into a rage. The line before that says "maybe there was no malice in the old woman's words, but Rosa found that remark extremely humiliating". 95% of readers would quickly understand what this is implying without being explicitly told. Rosa is ashamed because Maria doesn't act her age.

The speedreader I described above would simply read that scene with their mind empty and not think for even a second about what that line is implying or why Rosa is reacting that way. Not even guessing wrong, they would simply not think about it because they are already focused on speedreading the next line, giving themselves no room to breathe or think.

Someone like that will not enjoy ANY book as intended and will miss out on half of the experience, no matter which one it is or who the author is. All books say things implicitly most of the time, knowing that the reader will understand it. They write based on the assumption that the reader got the hint and obtained that implicit information. They might also make things vague so that the reader's mind wanders for a few seconds and makes guesses.

A speedreader reads books wrong and might as well be reading a Wikipedia summary. They just read and read and read without any breathing room, without giving themselves even a few SECONDS to digest any of it, as the author intended.

Why the fuck do you think I'm talking about Ryuukishi? This applies to any story in any genre.

The fact that lolis depend on their parents to survive and would drown in their own waste if they were left alone for a week is just mindblowing.

Even the most prideful and respected loli in your class would suffer that humiliating fate if her parents decided she's old enough to be left alone for a week. Wouldn't you have loved to know this interesting piece of trivia as a kid and masturbate to the fact that your classmate is not as mature and awesome as everyone thinks she is?

Maybe she wouldn't bathe in an entire week because she doesn't feel like it. And her breath would smell embarrassingly bad because she didn't brush her teeth. And it would be arousing because it would prove that she is in fact human even if she is really, really cute and the idea of her pooping somehow doesn't feel realistic at all.

I mean, think about the cute as fuck loli classmates you were so afraid to interact with. Don't they seem like a bunch of fools now that you look at them from an adult perspective? They do stupid things, they have long conversations about completely retarded shit and do lewd stuff that would appeal to fetishists without realizing it because they don't even imagine that things like fetishes could exist.

It's kind of like you are degrading and therefore humiliating them just by thinking about them with a mature mind. It's like their very existence is embarrassing and pathetic, worthy of a good laugh.

Your crush was a ridiculous human loli and probably had self-esteem issues typical of tween girls hidden behind her cheery persona. She probably had armpit stubble and felt ashamed of it. She never expected anyone to know these pathetic facts about her life, but you know now because they are undeniable facts of the human condition. You are remotely humiliating her past self beyond space and time, prying into her most intimate and mortifying secrets.

Get over that bitch, anon. She had an ass. An ass!

>It's Mion's birthday today
>All the club members have decided to throw her a surprise party when she gets home
>they go to Shion and borrow her key
>Shion waits until they leave and finds Mion, tasing her from behind and dragging her off the the dungeon, where she's strapped into a chair unconscious for later
>retrieves the duffle bag she prepared months ago for this occassion
>changes into her sister's clothes
>goes home, careful to not be seen, and checks to make sure all Mion's friends are hiding in her closet
>goes into her sister's room, strips naked and begins violently masturbating
>the combined sensations of humiliation but also sadistic pleasure at knowing they'll think she's Mion is overwhelming
>after several minutes she opens up the dufflebag, which is filled with only the most extreme, gigantic, and horrifying sex toys of all kinds
>vibrators, dildoes, candles, whips, lotions and oils and nipple clamps
>no normal human could fit any of these items inside themselves without serious medical complications
>but she's spent months and months training, preparing herself for this nearly supernatural feat of rectal capacity
>she works her way through the entire bag over the course of an hour
>But it's still not enough, she needs something MORE to be satisfied
>She starts humping the furniture, fisting herself in the ass and pussy at the same time, screaming in ecstasy
>She "accidentally" bumps into the closet and knocks the door open, mid climax
>All of Mions friends fall ontop of her naked quivering body, prompting another even more powerful orgasm as she gleefully feigns horror and screams "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
>She pauses, fully exposed, just long enough for the scene to reach it's maximum breaking point of horrifying tension
>Then she leaps up, still naked and covered in her own fluids, and runs naked out of the house through the center of town, making sure as many people as possible see her
>Eventually she breaks contact in the forest, washes up in a stream, changes into a prepared set of her own clothes and, armed with a present, returns to the scene of the crime
>She hunts down the club members, who are scouring the town looking for their friend, increasing the humiliating exposure even further than she had planned, and extracts a reconstruction of the scene from them under duress
>It's getting dark, and they think Mion may be lost in the woods, they're thinking of calling a town meeting to search for her
>This is a little too far, even for Shion, so she says that there's a secret hiding spot only the two of them know about, and she'll go and retrieve her sister
>She tells them the best thing to do is just pretend like none of this ever happened, so get the surprise party ready again and wait for her to come back
>once they're out of sight she goes to retrieve Mion
>She carefully explains everything that just happened, with a live action re-enactment for example
>And how no one will ever believe it was wasn't her, how her friendships have been ruined forever, how she'll never be able to look any of them in the eyes again
>As Mion screams and cries and chokes on her own vomit while Shion climaxes for the dozenth time, she offers her a way out
>Mion's life is over, it can never be repaired, but, just this once, she has a chance
>She can renounce her name, stop being Mion, trade places with her sister one last time
>Everything will go on, Shion is stronger than Mion, she can handle the fallout, the humiliation
>As the last jumbo sized goorilla dildo plops out of Shion's gaped asshole, Mion agrees, she'd rather die than face her friends after this
>Laughing, Shion agrees, but says there's one final condition
>It took so much time and effort to pull this off
>so many days of agonizing training
>just trading places isn't good enough anymore
>Mion has to experience the full depth of her sister's suffering to truly repent
>right here and now, the entire bag at once
>Mion begs and pleads for mercy, unable to even prostrate herself in her restraints
>Shion tells her that she only has two options, having her holes destroyed, or going out there and facing her friends
>Her dignity or her shitter, choose now

>>35104752
Same reason spoiled milk is disgusting. And much more than shit, if you ask me.

I think the buttsweat of a literal cute is a nice alternative to shit. It's slightly disgusting but becomes full lewd if the girl is cute and has a good personality, totally negating the disgust while still retaining the taboo and humiliating nature of it. Plus, it's produced by the literal cuteのbody and has a distinct musky butt smell that has nothing to do with shit, making it both more palatable (in the gross/lewd scale) and more personal than literal rotten food.

The arses of human girls are almost always clean or dirty, with no in-between. That's the reason why buttsweat is underrated and often completely ignored, to the point many self-proclaimed perverts don't even know it exists or that it has its own scent not associated with shit in the slightest.

Aya-chan from Higanbana is the best example of this. She's clean but exercises a lot during the story, giving her butt a sweaty aroma that would be disgusting for her fellow loli classmates but extremely delicious for any pervert. Truly, the best balance between gross and lewd. Lewdness that comes from something "objectively disgusting" being seen as lewd is completely different (and more powerful) from regular lewdness. Especially in the case of a loli, whose body has few erotic traits beyond the butt and a couple other parts.

I wonder if Satoko and Rika would tell the truth to the police once Rena is found dead in the bathroom. Would they come out and say that they were the last ones to see her that evening? Would they make up a different story about their encounter with Rena to protect her dignity as a human being? Or would they remain silent about having met Rena so they don't have to say what happened?

If they didn't say anything, the police wouldn't have a motive for the suicide and her poor dad would probably blame himself for going out with a woman Rena hated. But if they explained the truth, Rena's reputation would be destroyed and the memories everyone has of her would be tainted by the knowledge of what happened. The pathetic reason she killed herself. The way she shamefully lost control of her sexual urges. Not only her friends, but also the police and the media. They would all know about the truth if Rika and Satoko talked.

The whole point of Miyo's plan was for she and her grandfather to leave something behind in this world even after death. The memories you leave behind in the minds of people are what keep you alive. It's a very important theme in Higurashi.

For Rena to leave behind such a humiliating reputation... For Rena's friends to remember her like that... For all of their memories of the usual Rena to be tainted by her shameful final actions... That is too sad. From the day of her birth to the day of her death, Rena didn't achieve anything worthwhile. All she left behind was a record of her pathetic existence. Everytime her friends remember Rena, they will cringe and try to forget about her because it's so embarrassing. That is all her life amounted to.

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