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Illya

>>35044078
Cute.

poop schizo? is that you?

>>35044166
>poop schizo?
Explain.

Why is Fate more popular than Tsukihime? The main content(stay night) is paced so poorly there's memes about a cooking route.

>>35044256
>The main content(stay night) is paced so poorly
It's not. That's just ADHD kids that have trouble reading. Anyways, Fate is obviously more popular because it was a full on proper game (that later got voice acting) and not a cult classic doujin game.

>>35044256
Higher budget and polish would do a lot.

post cursed

>>35044256
I don't think the pacing is so bad once you get past Shiro's part of the intro, though HF does have the worst pacing out of the 3 routes. That said, bad pacing isn't as detrimental to a story as other aspects like characters, plot, and setting. People love Clannad for example, and that has possibly the worst pacing I've seen for any VN. So many frivolous routes.
In any case, Fate is more popular than Tsuki simply because action is more popular than psych horror.

>>35044425

>>35044425

>>35044425

>>35044256
Those who complain about spending time with the charcters during down time are idiots, though I do agree that the pacing can get pretty slow with nothing much happening during the days. Fate is more appealing in a shounen/action way and the higher production values make it more appealing to a broader audience. It’s also more unique than Tsukihime and Saber’s design is iconic that made people want to play/watch Fate.

>>35044256
>The main content(stay night) is paced so poorly there's memes about a cooking route.
p-people make MEMES about it?
guess it must be shit then

>>35044044
Last thread's op was better.

>>35044425

Damn, TM male protags are pretty unpopular especially Shiki. Guess it must be the otaku audience that just votes for the waifus, but Archer is always popular due to how cool he is.

>>35045262
Protagonists in bishoujo games placing that high is pretty remarkable.

>>35045262
I'd say Shiki did pretty well considering it was TM's philosophy at the time to conceal the protag's face as much as possible.

>>35045262
>but Archer is always popular
He represents the homosexual part of the fanbase.

>>35045331
It's pretty embarassing for the main protag to be beaten by Seo who is a minor character introduced in a plus disc. I don't think they really like Shiki besides playing him in Melty Blood, also surprised Nanaya didn't rank in the polls due to how edgy/cool he is.

>>35045376
>It's pretty embarassing for the main protag to be beaten by Seo who is a minor character introduced in a plus disc
No?
I think you're just out of touch.

>>35045376
People always like the girls better anon. It's normal in this genre. Stuff like Archer being 3rd is an anomaly and not the norm.

>>35045439
alright then I'll just say you're right and that the girls the most important in these polls.

>>35045262
Male Character Poll 2009
1. Archer
2. Nanaya Shiki
3. Lancer
4. Tohno Shiki
5. Emiya Shirou
6. Kotomine Kirei
7. Gilgamesh
8. Kokutou Mikiya
9. Emiya Kiritsugu
10. Iskandar

>>35045262
Ciel-bros what is this???

>>35045611
You should just be glad she's somehow not last place like she should be.

>>35045540
Glad to see Nanaya Shiki get some love. Also surprised Shiki beat out Shirou, but I guess Emiya is good enough.

>>35045262
does anybody have a link to the pics used here? I'm assuming there's some sort of artbook with them since they're used a lot

Saber getting visibly angry after Shirou calls her abilities bullshit is one of my favorite scenes in the Fate route.

>>35046652
Wait a second, does that line technically count as foreshadowing losing to Kuzuki? Bravo Nasu.

>>35046652
That route sucks

>>35046652
Cute.

>>35046692
all of them do

>>35046678
Sure, since it was basically just Rin explaining that despite her being broken you could still beat Saber if you have the right tools (Berserker's strength, Lancer's Gae Bolg, powerful enough magic, etc).

>>35046874
Yes but that one more so

>>35045262
>Archer higher than Sakura
no wonder Nasu hates him

>>35047003
everybody loves redman :)

>>35046678
How much UBW foreshadowing was there in Fate?

cute king!

>>35047694
When Redman just knows that Shirou is good at projection for no reason

When i read any of planefag/ghost's stuff (military quest runners), one common thing is that there is always a few characters that set up a still to make homemade alcohol stills. Which servants/base personnel would be most likely to do the same at Chaldea?

I'm talking about people who normally don't do culinary things.

>>35045262
>>35045540
Best boy

>>35045262
>Rider over Sakura twice
if only Nasu gave her a route...

>>35045262
Fucking Neko Arc. Also, Elegant sister #2.

>>35045232
Now she's worthy of being Sudo's wife!

>>35048878
she pretty much has the setup for one in F/HA with Rider warning Shirou that she'll become a monster one day and having Shirou say that he believes in her. It has the making of route material.

Cute

>>35049950
This is now a cute thread.

>>35049997

>>35050278
Third worst girl

>>35050280
you're third worst girl

>>35050280
Very uncute post
Delete

Hope they include a good depiction of the Tsukihime prologue.

>>35050418
Pretty picture. I hope they do Zelretch right.

>>35050418
I think they will. Gotta expand on Arc's backstory more for the remake.

>>35050306
cute shit is what ruined this franchise

>get a sick new puppet body better than old one
>live in a mansion with tons of beautiful maids
>spend the rest of your days fucking (around with) Illya, Sella and Liz
>probably master projection after Illya absorbs Archer and using his knowledge as a guide
>get to train with Heracles
What's so bad about this ending again?

>>35050539
Illya dies and you're left on your own for the rest of time.

>>35050539
t. retarded coomer

>>35050539
Who quote?

>>35050539
Based Illyachad

>>35051137
Based on what?

>>35051366
on cute cups!

>>35051470
The cutest of cups!

explain, weebs

>>35049997

https://twitter.com/FGOAP_ep6/status/1400739101289062402

Latest Camelot trailer. Hopefully any future Tsukihime anime project can get the same level of resources most Fate projects have been getting. Surely Aniplex believes there's money to be made from Tsukihime.

>>35052573
*burp*

>>35045262
Based Archer

>>35045333
Whatever shirou

Anyone remember the name of that gacha game that had a Mahoyo collab with playable Alice and Aoko?

Just downloaded Melty Blood, glad it doesn’t tank on my shitty i3 laptop from 2012

>>35054912
Lord of Vermilion and I think it had a MtG booster pack model not a gacha.

>>35055892
Thanks

So I've been with this wish of trying to understand the "logic" behind some spelling choices of western names on Type Moon works.
Some names, like Altria, are easy to understand because the character already links to the source, but some names don't, because they are probably made up from what people at TM research, like a anachronic combination of different proto-european radicals.
Is there any extensive analysis, even on hypothetical level, of TM westernish names?
Like for example, Brunestud, which actually have some etmologic roots on anglo and german radicals that could give some clarity as to what possibly Nasu was thinking it sould mean, probably with the brunner/brenner/brun roots with a more specific and old use of 'stud' (which doesn't necessarily is limited to the meaning of hot guy, but also means 'royal breed').
Anyway, if there is no previous work, how about we try do one?

>>35057305
Chuuni naming convention is often a combination of picking cool sounding words regardless of their meaning and a lack of basic knowledge of English language. I think that trying to make sense of it is a fundamentally fruitless endeavour.

>>35057305
There is no logic to japanese spelling of western names.

>>35057305
>TM research

funniest shit in this itt so far

>>35058695
>in this itt
>in this in this thread

Hello, Fate/Extra Record news?

>>35059562
Probably not until after tsuki R comes out.

>>35058717
>being this new

>>35059798
>being this gay

>>35044044
big

>>35051515

>>35059562
I wish. I've just been watching this over and over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDwHvFIzFZA

What are the chances they will officially translate the tsukihime remake?

>>35060504
Zero loser. Be happy you got Melty Blood.

>>35060504
zero, cero, нуль, ゼロ, nulla

>>35060504
Literally none, also you'll to wait at least 10 years to get a fanTL since HollowMoon has to wait for the french to translate it first.

>>35060371
How can Illya be saved?

If you would rewrite Fate Zero what would you change?

>>35060746
At least 15 sex scenes, all of them including Kirei

>>35051661
The teacher’s design is based on Ciel’s design so he gave thanks to them. He was also influenced by Tsukihime so it’s just a special thanks to them.

>>35060305
seethe

>>35061051
mad white boy

>>35060662
Magic probably.

>>35044044
Should I read KnK or watch the movies first?

>>35060504
Nasu is racist and hates 外人 so zero. All official type-moon T/Ls have happened only because they happened to partner with another company that does it.

>>35060770
Based

>>35061525
Unless you know Japanese, you can't read KnK. There's a fan t/l, but is basically fanfiction with how poorly done it is. I personally would say read them first and then watch the movies, but it really doesn't matter too much. Just know that the 6th movie is garbage and the book is way better.

>>35060504
thankfully none

>>35060770
>all of them including Kirei
*and Gilgamesh

Lads, I have a question.
Since there's no translation of KnK aside from Baka-Tsuki and Cokesakto...
And that one dude from reddit deleted his account after bragging about how he's translating KnK ever since December...

Should I bite the bullet and read Cokesakto's translation? I get that they added pointless filler to the text, but did they actually change anything significant? Or just get verbose for no reason?

>>35061348
>t. brown third worlder

>>35062163
It's not like I've done a thorough look at it or anything. However, I saw excerpts of the epilogue and it was rife with completely mistranslated lines and made up shit. Basically, it was completely wrong. That doesn't really inspire confidence in the quality of the rest of the work since, presumably, the final epilogue was the last thing translated.

>>35062163
https://karoshi.mangadex.com/2020/10/20/the-garden-of-sinners-a-view-from-above/

Oh god, I randomly looked at the very fucking being of that Cokesakto shit and it's already wrong. It even inserts a random "It was a person." sentence which completely misses the point of having all the descriptive text in the first place.

>>35063175
>being
beginning*

https://www.strawpoll.me/45359177/r

>>35062163
I made the mistake of reading it. It's not just being verbose, he changed shit for no reason. It's practically a different story due to the mistranslation.

Speaking of Cokesakto, what drives a person to """translate""" hundreds of pages of Japanese poorly and insert his own fanfiction? I mean I guess he gets a few more hits on his blogs, but come on surely the e-peen of being universally laughed at isn't worth it.

>>35059562
didn't they hit a snag in development? Think they said something like that in the TM magazine or maybe someone lied to me. Well they should have something to announce for FGO's anniversary.

>>35064238
yeah I think they said they found some "unexpected" problems of something like that.
A shame

>>35054912
>>35055892
>>35056890

>>35065459
Goddess.

>>35060746
Make it less shit.

Make the secondary masters less one dimentional, make the plans that the various teams take less retarded, dont butcher sabers character, dont make kiritsugu childishly edgy, dont make the action scenes dumb

>>35060597
How fast do you think it will take the French to translate it? Will it be faster for me to learn French than moon?

>>35065793
Shit taste.

>>35066161
>learning french
don't do that to yourself, learn nip like normal people do

>>35044044
This is a moon thread? what about mooncoins? $BUBBLEGUM to the moon

>>35066161
Why would you go to the trouble of learning another random language just to read more shit translations from another language?
The best part of learning Japanese is that you never have to think about translations again.

>>35066272
Because learning French is much easier than learning japanese

>>35066251
Sorry bro, we only trade Doge here

>>35066289
sounds like half-assing it.
If you're gonna learn a language just for the lulz just learn nip

>>35066289
Just machine translate it bro. That's even easier than learning anything.

>>35066289
Is it really?

>>35065722
Somewhat literally.

>>35066161
>How fast do you think it will take the French to translate it?
A week.

>>35068086
I ended up finding the Trad-Moon discord and some other FR TM server and they seem to think it's never going to get translated in French, so I guess I'll hope that Aniplex localizes it.

>>35068104

Miss Blue sweater puppies > Vampire sweater puppies.

>>35063144
>karoshi
lel

barelegs

>>35068106
I thought the French translated mahoyo in a week?

>>35066808
Mindbreaking Aoko!

>>35068104
>>35068222
>>35068255
is
>>35068645
is not

>>35068645
Based

>>35068645
Rude!

>>35068782
why must you do this

>>35068820

cute

>>35068813
>>35068820
>>35068898

>>35066394
Not him but it would probably take less time, yes.

I think it would be better to learn japanese though, even if it would take longer.

>>35062788
>>35063922
So I guess I'll have better luck just reading the BakaTsuki translation for what they did translate and then use fucking DeepL machine translation for the rest? Lol.

Alright, so I tried using DeepL for KnK's epilogue, and it's surprisingly decent. At least half of it.
The most hilarious mistake is translates "Kokutou" to "Kurogiri".

>>35071059
Here's the translation from DeepL:

>The city was experiencing its first heavy snowfall in four years.

>The snow that falls in March is so cold that it freezes the season.

>The white crystals did not stop falling at night, and the city was dead as if in an ice age.

>It was midnight.

>There are no people on the streets, only the light from the street lamps resisting the veil of snow.

>In the darkness, which should have been dark but was now white, he decided to go for a walk.

>He didn't have any particular purpose in mind.

>He just had a premonition, so he walked to the place.

>Holding a black umbrella, he walked through the falling snow.

>And there she was, standing there.

>Just like the day four years ago.

>In the empty white night, the girl in the kimono was staring blankly into the darkness.

>He called out casually, "Hello," just as he had done four years ago.

>The girl in the kimono turned around and smiled at him.

>"It's been a long time, Kurogiri-kun."

>The strange girl had a soft smile on her face, as if she had known him for a long time.

>>35071080
Meanwhile, Cokesakto's translation is:

>At the moment, the city is knee deep into the worst snow it’s had in four years, and to make matters worse, it’s falling in March. The volume of the snow is so thick, and the temperature so low, that no one at all would be surprised to see the entire city frozen in place. Even at nights, the white spots drift down onto the roofs and streets in a languid pattern, showing no signs of abating, like the sky is determined to drown it in a new ice age.
Tonight, at midnight, is one such frigid night.
Not even the shadow of a person can be sighted on the streets tonight, and the unceasing white veil of the snow is permeated only by the illumination of street lights. It should be dark, but even the darkness can’t resist being tainted by the gathering white. In that scene of contrasts can be seen one boy, strolling through the late hours. He has no particular purpose in mind. Something called him out here, a premonition that promised something in a place so familiar.
He walks casually, as if time didn’t truly matter, holding aloft his black umbrella as he presses his way through the thick snowfall. And at last, he finally chances upon the girl, standing there, just as she did four years ago. Dressed in her kimono in the midst of the desolate white night, the girl stares blankly at the void. And like four years ago, the boy calls out to her in a voice at ease.
“Hey.”
The girl in the kimono turns slowly to glance over her shoulder, and smiles sweetly.
“Good evening, Kokutō. It has been quite a while now, hasn’t it?” asks the strange girl, Shiki Ryōgi, as the gentle smile on her lips speaks of a past where he had known the boy so long ago. The voice, however, is cordial, not intimate.

Anyone got a translation of the Kagetsu Tohya Manga? I know a Manga exists, but I cant find scans online.

>>35071080
Huh, that's surprisingly close.
Lads, I'll run all of the novels through DeepL if someone is willing to edit the imperfections.

>>35072448
Yeah we’ll call ourselves Middle Finger Moon

>>35072448
>>35072849
I was actually trying to "translate" it in a similar fashion by using DeepL and Coke's translation.
Basically, my idea is to just get a machine translation of everything and then compare it to Cokesakto's.
That way, I can remove the bullshit prose that Coke added and keep the original.
Might take a while.

>>35071343
It's just a doujin anthology series with no TM involvement, not an actual adaptation. Scans of the first volume are on sadpanda but no translation obviously. Don't waste your time on this.

>>35072448
>>35073740
This is much worse than what discord trannies are doing with Mahoyo. You better be fucking joking.

>>35073875
Why is it bad if you're doublechecking against the actual text?

>>35071059
You called?

>>35072448
>>35074132
Kill yourself idiot.

>>35074295
Translate the novel then.
FSN is not a good translation either. Neither is FHA, and so on, yet you don't complain about them.

>>35074338
Are you going to pay me in bitcoin?

>>35074364
Paypal or bust.

>>35074403
I thought paypal accepts bitcoin now.

>>35074419
Do they? I didn't check. Either way, I don't deal in shitcoin.

>>35074451
Well it was a joke but obviously I'm not going to translate for EOPs for free.

>>35074338
You underestimate my complaining. But seriously, do not machine translate fucking KnK.
Everyone says they're 'checking the original text' but always end up with shit. You can't make a good translation with something fundamentally broken as the foundation.
Also, because you failed to mention them, Tsukihime's translation sucks and KT is godawful.

>>35074465
>KT is godawful.
Well that one is a translation of a translation if I remember right, that's why I didn't bother mentioning it. I didn't know about Tsukihime being bad as well though.

Either way, I'm not "machine translating" it. I'm putting it through the translator and editing it line by line. If it comes out shit, I don't care. At least you guys'll have some stuff to laugh about.

>>35074465
I still liked that one line from the Tsuki TL about “hiding in the red of the setting sun” or something

>>35074589
Do some of the really chuuni shit from later in the epilogue.

>>35074770
Man, now I imagine becoming Cokesakto 2.0 and adding a 4th personality for Shiki or smth.

>>35074589
>Either way, I'm not "machine translating" it. I'm putting it through the translator and editing it line by line
that's machine translation stop fucking coping.

>healthy thread goes to translation discussion
>gets pumped with massive diatribes of hopeless reasoning
>/tmg/ doesn't feel good and changes
Autism, many such cases.

>>35071112
Did you cut out from the Japanese or is this padded to hell and back?

>>35075794
It wasn’t that bad, we could be having 6+ hours of schizoposting like some other places.

>>35064214
You give "translators" too much credit, a lot of them don't even understand how shit they are somehow. Like that one Symphogear TL group is currently claiming on twitter the new spinoff is written by the main series creators because somehow they don't know what 原作 means

In these trying times I'd like to propose a toast to Hollow Moon, for translating to english the questioned french translation of Mahoyo!
Now let’s a raise our glasses to the saviors of EOPs! Cheers!

>>35074589
>Either way, I'm not "machine translating" it. I'm putting it through the translator and editing it line by line.
holy shit, the absolute state of /tmg/

>>35076440
>>35075508
>machine translator gives perfect translation aside from minor stuff here and there, such as first and third person.
>"uwu! wuw! machine translation bad!!" say the retards who most likely already played Tsukihime and FSN, and had no issue with them.
Never chance, retards.

>>35077057
>most likely already played Tsukihime and FSN, and had no issue with them.
Yes because I played them in Japanese.

>>35077057
says the retard who didn't even know that MTL was LMAO

>>35077057
Who are you quoting?

>>35077196
Retards who don't deserve anything good.

>>35077235
... who don't deserve another KnK MTL...?

>>35077243
>another
By all means, show me another MTL that was edited to stick to the real thing as closely as possible. I'm waiting.

>>35077272
>edited to stick to the real thing as closely as possible
oh hey, it's the hollow moon bullshit again

>>35077057
>minor stuff
More like manure stuff.

>>35077536
Show me some examples where this is shown to be bad, babe.

>>35077562
>Show me some examples of MTL not being accurate
anon I...

>>35077562
>changes the subject
'kay bitch.

Don't worry bro I'm doing my reps so I can translate the Tsukihime remake to spanish as soon as it comes out

>>35077849
kek, anglos lose again

>>35077562
The introduction of KnK has several errors on DeepL. The most amusing one is somehow turning "おそらくは。" to "It's not that I don't like it.". This shit has got a very long way to go.

Yet, those hands will never hold a decent TL

>>35077562
If you don't know japanese you literally cannot check how accurate a MTL is. all you can fucking do is rewrite whatever it shits to not read like complete shit

>>35078182
>The most amusing one is somehow turning "おそらくは。" to "It's not that I don't like it.". This shit has got a very long way to go.

Remove unnecessary stuff, like the line before it, and even DeepL recognizes it as "Perhaps".

>>35078410
The mere existence of one sentence shouldn't somehow fuck up the translation of a really common phrase. That's just sad. Maybe the idea of "I'll just use MTL and proofread for errors" sounds okay, but the reality is that, assuming you care about doing a good job which most translators won't, you're going to check literally every single line for errors (which there will bet a shitload) and then also rewrite garbage sounding prose and all that stuff. Basically, it's just a waste of time and you'll switch to translating from scratch like a sane person.

>>35077849
>Only knows french and english, busy with japanese
It's not fair bros, I don't have some obscure language to translate it to before EOPs ever get it.

>>35078672
Translate it to French and then back to Japanese.

Well I tried my method with the first part of Overlooking View.
What do you guys think?
https://www.mediafire.com/file/texiny2rgh8e2lu/Overlooking_View.docx/file

>>35079508
I was wondering if you were going to catch that error in the MTL. You didn't.

>見飽きたビル街を呆と歩いていると、ほどなくして人が落ちてきた。
>As I walked in a daze through the buildings that I was tired of seeing, I soon heard a person fall.
This is wrong. The original Japanese doesn't mention anything about "hearing" a person fall. I didn't check after that.

>>35079570
Huh, GoogleTranslate and Yandex both are correct like you say, while DeepL is the one that added the hearing part.
That's interesting.

>>35079635
>checked other MTLs
Anon... you don't even know japanese

>>35079688
I don't know kanji to same my life, yeah, but I can at least read hiragana.

>>35077849
Wasn't the game already picked up by a group?
Something something Feeling.

>>35079736
>picked up by a group
If by "picked up" you mean, they said they'll do it on their discord/shitty blog sure. That doesn't mean anything is going to happen.

>>35079714
Try learning Japanese first.

>>35079570
And that's not even the only problem in that single sentence.

>>35079764
Yeah yeah, but you get what I'm saying, right?
It might be a good idea to ask them if they're truly going to do it or not, I simply don't want your effort to got to waste anon.

>>35079714
Anon, you can always check the kanjis with a dictionary, its a slow procress but with grammar and katakana/hiragana you can pretty much start reading, you'll have to stop every sentence to check for kanji, but little by little you'll build up vocab.

>>35079714
people like you are why I miss hitler

>>35079868
I am obviously trying to learn kanji. I'm not stupid enough to think I can learn Japanese by ignoring the most important part of their writing system.

>>35079714
Then you'll be ignorant to the bunch of other errors in just those first few lines.

>>35079892
People say that if the Germans won WWII, we'd all be speaking German. They're wrong. We'd all be speaking Japanese.

>>35079903
I wasn't implying that you weren't I was saying that you don't need to wait that long until you can start reading shit at your own pace.

>>35052573
The Tsukihime remake is being published by a branch of Aniplex, so take that as you will. People have been speculating that Aniplex has been getting into the VN business to make new IPs for their anime projects, but I don't think anything's come of it yet. For the record, the VNs aniplex has funded so far have been released on Steam in English, but I'm pretty sure if the remake was going to be released in English, it would have been announced by now or at least at about the same time Melty Blood was announced for English.

>>35079925
We all know Hitler was a hopeless weeb. Why else would a white supremist ally with Japan?

>>35079948
Ah okay. Yeah, you're right though. I imagine learning kanji by looking them up while reading something makes learning them easier than just memorizing them one by one.

>>35079968
Is it being published by Aniplex? I thought they were just a distributor. I'll confess that I don't know if that's a meaningful difference or not.

>>35079508
Shouldn't've spent time on this one. Isn't the Faust version out there anyway?

>>35079826
I mean it has the "shit prose" problem, but I don't think there are any other outright errors are there?

>>35080140
ビル街

>>35080415
skyscrapers, eh...
Alright, I'll fucking drop this.
I'm just so frustrated.
If you guys know enough of the language, why don't you translate at least one chapter? Not even all of one story, but one chapter.
If 20 people did this we'd at least have a translation that's not shit...
KnK is not even that long compared to other LNs.

>>35080641
Why would I translate for free?

>>35080641
>If you guys know enough of the language, why don't you translate at least one chapter?
Because fuck EOPs.

>>35080641
Because it's a lot of work. And just knowing Japanese doesn't mean you're any good at writing in English.
Also, it doesn't mean skyscrapers.

>>35080641
do you know how many fucking franchises beg me to translate shit? How many galleries on exhentai do? all of them offering me absolutely nothing?

>>35080722
how many

>>35080697
>doesn't mean you're any good at writing in English.
Yeah I'd be a pretty bad translator probably. I have no idea how to deal onomatopoeias without making them sound stupid.

>>35080641
>skyscrapers, eh...
That too but the main point is that the entire street or area or whatever is being talked about.

>>35080873
yes, the skyscraper district. I know. Sorry for talking short when you all already knew about it, duh.

>>35080641
>If you guys know enough of the language, why don't you translate at least one chapter?
Why the fuck would you do that when you can just use that language to enjoy yourself instead? That's a whole lot of effort for lazy faggots who take time they could be using to learn the language to whine about translations instead.

>>35080662
>>35080722
Alright bitches. How much would you charge for a translation of KnK? Name your price.

>>35080901
.5 dollars per character.

>>35080901
I'll do it for $5000 per book.

>>35080900
You mean why would someone fantranslate stuff?
Quite a few reasons desu. For one, they get to be the one that everyone talks about when talking about the translation.
Cokesakto gained a lot of attention even if their translation was shit.
If you think you're hot shit and think you deserve to get paid for it, then open a Patreon or whatever the fuck you want to ask for money. Although that's not really legal last I checked.

On the one hand, I understand. Being a selfish cuck who doesn't care about others' enjoyment is alright. I'm not entitled to you all working for my benefit.
But on the other hand, people on this thread are being massive dickheads by constantly shitting on the guys who work on Mahoyo's translation.

>>35080977
Go away discord tranny.

>>35080977
Start by not being a translation of a translation and maybe you guys won't be mocked.

>>35080922
>.5 dollars per character.
>>35080965
>I'll do it for $5000 per book.
Who do I believe...
Have you two ever done shit professionally or nah? I'd be unironically willing to pay that much if it meant getting a good translation out of it.

>>35080999
if you want a professional level translation I'll happy rewrite every 6th sentence to random garbage because that's what they get paid for

>>35080999
I dunno anon. Shouldn't you just contact some actual company to do this instead of some weeb on /jp/? I mean if magically I got thousands of dollars of an advance payment in paypal or something, I would do my best, but I dunno how good it would be.

>>35080977
The real shitting will start when they grow balls to actually release it.

>>35081021
Reminder that one dude got paid to translate an eroge and he changed all the "onii-chan" to "dude".
Not even mad. That shit was hilarious.
>>35081060
Well, companies can't really do shit without a license, can they?
I guess there might be some translation groups that are willing to get paid anonymously and whatever.

Sex with Azaka.

>>35080977
>I'm not entitled to you all working for my benefit.
Exactly.

Since this is today's topic, what level does one's Japanese need to be to read Type Moon stuff?
I know my Hiragana and my Katakana, and I obviously have a dictionary on hand for mumbo jumbo Kanji, but what's the officially recommended level of Japanese one should have for Nasu's wild ride?

>>35081246
You need to be comfortable with reading a book. Type-Moon's VNs are written like novels so it's a step or two above a typical moege and such.

>>35081246
If you need to ask you're not good enough.

>>35081276
So like, N3 or N2, I guess.

>>35081286
No fucking shit, Sherlock. Why do you think I'm asking.

>>35081294
Judging by the sort of vocabulary on the N1 list, you need to be N1 (and then some).

>>35081294
dude you can pass N1 and not know japanese. I don't know what memes DJT told you but you can get 45% of the answers in that test wrong and still pass

I'll be posting cute stuff while all of you argue with each other over stuff no one cares about. Keep slinging shit at each other for all of our amusement.

Nasu is fun to read.

>>35081246
https://jpdb.io/visual-novel-difficulty-list?order=reverse
Check the Type-Moon VNs here, if you make an account you can even add the vocab from the games to a deck.
Personally I'm preparing for both Mahoutsukai and Tsukihime, My recomendation grammar when reading knowing the grammar will carry you quite a bit.
If you read at your own pace, checking for vocab while reading, taking notes etc etc, even if it takes you 5 times more than reading normally, then its all gold.
So if you're interested in reading T-M stuff, simply pick some random quotes or something and start dipping your toes in the act.

>>35081334
>you can get 45% of the answers in that test wrong and still pass
Then regardless of whether that's a "pass", I wouldn't consider it as one unless you ace it.

>>35081339
Based

>>35081344
Nice. Cheers.

miss blue....

>>35081344
>currently reading Dies Irae
>other stuff on my backlog is near the top of that list
This is what happens when you like chuuni.

>>35081344
mfw Nekopara became the de facto mandatory Japanese learning experience.

>>35081367
Thx!
>>35081430
Then you're one of my dudes kek, recently (and after 6 months of reading 5 hours per day) I finished KKK, that Masada dude sure is something, that said Dies Irae in jap just sounds hellish (its even a bit of hell in english) good luck.

>>35080641
>he already gave up
funniest thread we've had in a while

>>35081430
Years back when I was reading dies irae in japanese some random kanji fucked me up so I went to look it up only to find it wasn't even a kanji, the guy used a spelling so ancient it was literally chinese. for absolutely no reason. It was some random everyday word too.

>>35081497
That sounds chunni as fuck. It's Dies Irae, so that sounds about right.

>>35081497
Dude loves to do that, I guess is part of the charm of his style but he should set some boundaries ahahaa.

>>35081497
Some of the random walls of kanji lines are direct quotes from the kojiki.

>>35081475
Ren's point of view isn't so bad, but Masada can really fucking lose it on the big old NVL-style textboxes. I've had to stop and pause for a while a few times and I haven't had to do that in ages. KKK is going to be a lot of fun. I really love the aesthetics and presentation of that game from just the screenshots.

The shirou vs. kirei fight with the VN ost edited in got taken down off YouTube. Did anybody download it? I feel like such a dumbass, I loved that vid.

>>35081526
>Some of the random walls of kanji lines are direct quotes from the kojiki
Obviously, but lots of chuuni shit spams random walls of garbage. maybe it actually was a typo from his IME being filled with retarded bullshit since I was playing a 1.0 version of acta est fabula

>>35081553
>shirou vs. kirei
Sorry, I don't download garbage.
Someone will probably add it again at some point.

>>35081526
I haven't read DI in jap but yeah even in english sometimes those big box scenes were a bit overblown.
Oh man, KKK is sure something, art style, presentation and so on is top notch, even the vertical texbox is cool af, hope you can finish DI soon so you can start with KKK it took me 6 months to read KKK but it was one hell of a good read.

>>35081344
>Oretsuba
Wait this is actually supposed to be hard to read? I only know it from the meme screenshots like this.

>>35081587
to be honest KKKs ending fucking sucks and I don't even care if it was clearly intentional. And to think the original release didn't even have the epilogue, dude really needs to stop letting his games get released unfinished.

>>35081626
Don't know if they changed something on the ver I read, but ending was good, the whole scene of them all reunited along with them finally doing the party was really powerful, it gave it such a good closure to the thing. Did they cut that scene on the original release?

>>35081684
I was mostly upset about the final fight but the original release is missing 5 chapters including the final one

>>35081246
Don't listen to anyone. Start reading whatever you want as soon as possible. Right now, for example.

>>35081626
>>35081734
Why is Light such a shitty company?

>>35081734
Ah I see, yeah I don't know which chapters were added but the second version does indeed feel more completed, not having best mom backstory and that extra epilogue story.
For me the final fight was really great but I did find annoying having to read all the viewpoints to reach it, especially the whole cut before the battle starts so that you read the rest of the POVs of the other characters. It was such a hype killer.

>>35081750
I don't know how dies irae even got a second release when the first one was dogshit and literally had only 2 routes

>>35081887
>Masada gets writer's block or some shit and fucks off
>hire SIX people
>barely only finish two routes
>don't tell ANYONE about your fuckup and release it
>everyone loses their shit when they find out they were lied to about the writers and the amount of routes
Someone needs to make a documentary detailing what logic went behind this decision.

This is a longshot, but does anyone know if the Kara no Kyoukai pamphlet that came with the 2004 collectors edition was ever scanned?
It's what the KnK glossary was included in, but it seems pretty damn obscure.

Why is Archer such a disloyal piece of work
That's not how you get into a teenager's pants

>>35060504

>>35081339

This is why I hate TMG sometimes lol

The last time I tried to intervene was two idiots saying fgo camelot was good and the other bad. Just make a discord and you two fight it there lel


Either I go back to shitposting and doomposting or Aoko spam when pointless arguments happen.

The last chapter finally got translated if anyone still cares about it.

5th magic jeans

We wait

>>35045611
>Ciel-bros what is this???
You'd be lucky if the other one of you is in this thread

>>35044352
>It's not bad, everyone is just retarded!
Absolute state of fate kiddies

>>35081382
>>35083257
>>35083865
Something worth doing.

sneks

>>35084269

>>35084352
Her hair should be sneks. But Nasu is retard. He hates Greek mythology.

>>35084523

>>35085079

>>35085320

>>35085737
>>35085352

Man, it's going to be weird seeing modern Aoko since the remake is coming soon. Wonder how she'll look and if Koyama wanted to draw her since it's been so long since he's officially drawn her.

>>35087560
I think things will be the same.
Takeuchi last drew her around 10 years ago, so adjust from then.

>>35087617
yeah, just wondering how her sprite version will look for the epilogue. Man poor Koyama having to see another artist draw her after so long must be a strange feeling. At least he can help with the coloring and other things.

fuck fate

>>35088291
fate is pretty cute so I get it.

Wait is ufotable ever doing this? The most they can do with demon slayer is a season 2 and another movie right?

>>35088752
Kimetsu is going to get fully adapted. This means
>season 3
>two cour season 4
>maybe a season 5/movie

>>35084488

>>35089065
Is there enough material for that? I thought mugen was like halfway through the series?

>>35089192
It's more like the end of the first third.

Okay, real talk... that machine translation you were arguing about looks surprisingly decent. Is it purely machine or did the guy edit it?
I compared it to the Baka-Tsuki translation and it's pretty close.

Maybe in 10 years machine translation will get even better and put all translators out of business, as most robots tend to do.

>>35047003
Nasu hate him ? Sakura doesn't seem to be that high in Nasu list either

>>35090030
People here love to make up a bunch of assumptions about Nasu.

>>35090030
>Sakura doesn't seem to be that high in Nasu list either
Dude wrote Extra CCC because he was salty that Sakura wasn't popular. Come on now.
It's not even a secret that he wants her to be the most "correct" choice in the eyes of the fanbase.
>Exhibit A
Despite adding a new ending to Realta Nua, they kept the Tiger Dojo line where Taiga calls HF True the "True Ending of Fate/Stay Night".
>Exhibit B
This interview:
>I really wanted to make it a work that would make the users want to get to know Saber and Rin better, or cuddle with Sakura. Saber and Rin respresent the fun and sweetness of romance. But I wanted to express the tragic nature of love with Sakura.
You were never supposed to want to cuddle with Rin or Saber apparently. Just Sakura.
>Exhibit C
Calls HF: "an yet higher level of entertainment".
>Exhibit D
Zelretch showing up in a timeline makes it more true than others. Hence him showing up in Heaven's Feel and directly interfering to help Rin out.
>Exhibit E
Despite seeing the Fate Route as a failure, he never tried to fix it whatsoever. Even wanted Zero to bully Saber instead. On the other hand, he wrote CCC trying to improve Sakura's reputation.

Dude's transparent as hell. Whatever he might say, those aren't the actions of a person who doesn't see Sakura as the absolute best. Plus, Heaven's Feel makes Fate and UBW look like dogshit in comparison. Both in the novel, as well as in adaptations.

>>35090093
Is it really an assumption when he spends every part of his writing trying to show you that Archer is wrong about literally everything?

>>35044044
Hot.

>>35090158
Sion has bigger tits.

>>35090158

>>35088393
you just know

>still no complete translation of the garden of avalon novel
Saberbros...

fate
girls
suck
now fuck off to /a/

>>35090857
>tmg
>"no fate allowed"
>OP's pic is a fate girl.
Oof, anon. Couldn't be more of a lamer if you tried.

>>35090239
How could best girl get any better?

>>35091105
Tsurui's doujins of Arcueid are top tier.

>>35091032
Don't play stupid.

>>35091826
Don't have to.
You already did.

>>35091867
Observe how /tmg/ is for longer than one thread, which is all you've had here.

>>35090576
>shitty retcon novel
no thanks

>>35091944
Yes, and?

>>35092093
Certain posters with certain posting habits, originating from other places are the ones who make /tmg/ worse.

There's a lot you lose from not adapting the Fate route, but I always thought it was strange that the recent adaptations never touched on exactly what projection is despite it's focus in UBW and being fairly easy to explain.

>>35092013
What? Nothing is retconned. It's just a short novel about Seiba when she becomes king.

>>35090857
but I really like this Fate girl

>>35094544
Speaking of that, can Shirou and Archer trace other things besides swords/weapons? iirc Shirou can project appliances and shit and that's how Rin found out that his projections weren't disappearing, but they were hollow or something. If so, can Shirou and Archer trace money?

>>35089489
You're not fooling anybody samefag

>>35096346
Yeah I think they can project almost anything
Isn't Archer's rod in pic related a projection?

>>35089489
>Maybe in 10 years machine translation will get even better and put all translators out of business
People have been saying this since the early 2000s, TLing is not as easy as it seems

>>35096346
>Shirou can only project things that are related to weapons in some way—or more specifically, swords. Modern weapons are off limits. …Well, technically he can pull out shields or armor, too, if he strains himself to his utmost limits, but the effects only last for an instant and the cost is enormous.
Also, on Rho Aias:
>It is the only defensive armament Archer can use proficiently.

>>35096444
Yeah, I forgot about that. It was supposed to be some high tech fishing rod or something.
>>35096565
So is this like a retcon then? >>35096444

>>35089489
>Baka-Tsuki translation
This one also has multiple translation errors. Mikiya was not walking "woodenly". The entire 押し花 line is wrong. Calling the face "featureless" is wrong and misses the point of Nasu being chuuni and using 亡い instead of 無い. You know it's pretty bad when nobody can even do the goddamn introduction correctly.

>>35096618
Maybe the rod's a 'failure' like the stuff Shirou had in the storehouse, but it's probably just that Archer is much better at projecting. It sounds like anything non-sword based takes way more effort though.

>>35096886
A lot of the chuuniness of KnK is in the prose and dialogue, more so than anything else Nasu's written, so it sucks to see it turned into such dry, clunky English.

>>35097016
Yeah to be quite fair, KnK would be pure hell to translate correctly. I wouldn't even know how to begin to convey Shiki's differing speech styles in English.

>>35044044
help i keep getting this error on f/sn how to fix it
the game just stays stuck here after i click OK

>>35096618
Fishing rods are kinda like swords

>>35096444
I dont think its fair to classify a regular fishing rod alongside his other projections that are magical weapons.

A regular mage can make a fishing rod with gradiation air, its like projecting a screwdriver or spoon.