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>>3443912
Natori just has to cast her Wind, which is the same regardless.
But she will be impossible to kill with it.
Your choice.
Mikos are not useful.

As for the Emperor ring, after the Honouji temple events (NOT KENSHIN route), recruit him and talk to him ONCE.
And you will get it.
Fire him then.

>>3443920
Isnt the ability to heal up your troops in battle useful?

>>3443927
It's kind of OK, but normally you'd want to use her special offensive skill. She casts it very quickly and it'll probably prevent more damage (by reducing the number of opponents drastically) than you'd heal by using Healing Mist.
Like that other guy said, in general, all the item really does is make her harder to kill. If you do rely on healing a lot I suppose it's worth it.
Although, since the item can only be used on Miko and Natori is arguably the only good one in the game (aside from Chinu), might as well use it on her.

Btw how do i trigger the ranmaru undressing event? Is it random?

>>3443927
It's actually very good early on, with a low troop count.
But later on, kinda useless.

>>3443940
Well the normal version of miko storm is prety shit, since it only does 10% damage to each unit...thats honestly not much.

>>3443952
Assuming you have told to her enough, deployed her with Katsuie and spoke a bit with him too, it will happen at the start of a turn.
Low-Priority.

>>3443961
3 mikos
Chinu with 9 Speed
Natori
All guard footsoldier

Not effective but pretty damn funny.

The problem with pictures like these is that you don't know whether it was a weird mistranslation or if it's just because it's Japanese.

>>3443968
Not that good, since Chinu affect current troop size.
All the others will hit first.
Just Chinu and Natori, with Natori normal attacking toll CHiu does her poisoning is better.

>>3443972
There is nothing wrong with it.

>>3443966
Hmm then its already on turn 50...

>>3443972

>>3444002
You may have triggered the requirements on 49.
Just have faith.

So after getting the option to attack teh temple, is there a time limit? What happens if i dont attack it?

>>3444021
I think you are forced to attack at some point, so you better do it on your own, to take advantage of the turn and having prepped units.

>>3443976
"King" normally implies a male. The Japanese word for it was entirely gender-neutral.
So it's technically wrong, but to be honest I'm not entirely sure what English word I'd have used. Maybe Head Demon, Demon Ruler, something like that.

>>3444047
All of which sound lame. Demon king gets the point across, and i dont think theres many people who care that the title is supposed to be gender neutral.

Whats the japanese word for it anyway?

>>3444066
Maou

Is Kanami useful? I mean shes level 25 and has 4s for combat stats.

>>3444156
Ridiculously fast in dungeons, even in troop battle.
Also, comes with lots of troops, even when summoned first, so she can fill in for the Ninja battle Permit, and let decent ninjas do proper job.
Plus, she does give satisfaction.

And this is personal, but having played a coupel Rance games, I really feel bad for her, so I always keep her...

>>3443911
> Old. I read this on http://www.ansntalk.com/ (sn = on) last night.
Wow. This board is so cool!

>>3444167
Hmm...how does the battle permit work actually?

>>3444066
Demon Queen, then. In English the title could be altered depending on the host.
>>3444156
Kanami is crap in army battles and kinda OK in dungeons. Normally people use her as a permitbot and for Searching (she has 5 Search), plus she's required for some dungeons and events. Either way you need to get her to get the next reinforcements, which are pretty good.
>>3444180
Permits will cause the character who has it equipped to take one of the opponent's subterritories automatically when you end your turn. The character will lose between 1 and all but 1 of its troops in the process. This can be costly with non-Ashigaru units, but it saves you a lot of time.

>>3444180
Acquired when you reach a certain troop count.
If a certain unit has 1000 troops(Warrior, Footsoldier, Ninja, Tactician, Diviner), they can equip them.
WHen yo uEND your turn, they will automatically attack and conquer an area, but NEVER conquer a province. Also, they will always first reclaim areas the enemy has conquered. They will lose a certain amount of troops each time. Beware, they must have 1000 troops at least to attack, so remember to replenish them.
They never fail, except when in certain routes, they attack VERY specific provinces of the DA(the game even takes the permits away).

Cheap strategy.
Use Covert Action on a nation. Especially if it's the first time, it will cause political chaos and they will NOT attack. Your battle permits conquer all areas but the last, and next turn, you conquer the last area and the province.
You can conquer a province per turn with minimal resources.

Apparently you cant attack after the temple shows up as an option. There goes the idea of wiping out takeda first before the demon army can take them over and fuck me in the ass.

>>3444210
Thought you only get it after the temple battle.

>>3444213
I believe it takes 10 turns after the temple events before the Demon Army actually appears.
Doing the temple event will take all your actions for that turn, though.

>>3444263
10 turns isnt enough time :(.

Its sad that everyone is too weak to stop xavier from taking over their nations.

>>3444213
in retrospect it gives you an infinite amount of time to do everything else besides conquering.

>>3443906
> Old. I read this on http://www.ansntalk.com/ (sn = on) last night.
What are you talking about?

Goddamn ranmaru's undressing scene wont trigger i dont know whats stopping it.

>>3444267
You only have to conquer their 2 original territory if they've taken over Uesugi or Houjou. If you do it fast enough then their generals won't even appear. I did it once and it felt good to get attacks only from your left

>>3444297
You're going to have to be patient for it, it's one of the more fickle events to trigger. You may not get it well into the mid-late game.

>>3444300
Is it possible to start a war with takeda at all without them taking over hojou?

I mean the game kinda shoe horsn you into :

-Attacking Ashikage

-Attacking Hara

-Tenshi sect

-Iga

And if you attack ONE MORE HOUSE...(i usually take asai askura, the free war declaration via grabbing yukihime's boobs), uesegi gets pissed and declares war on you, and hojou instantly loses(fucking weak).

>>3444319
Oh and Mori always gets asaki to declare war on me, then tanegishima gets shafted.

Does xavier kill your vassals too?

Mmm i wonder what it would be like if Xavier tried to take over one eyed masamune...

>>3444319
well not really Iga, they just declare on you if you're not at war with anyone.

>>3444319
If you declare war on Houjou and Uesugi at the same time, Takeda won't conquer one of them.
Don't worry too much about it though, Takeda only takes advantage of the shift in power during the 1st playthrough. This won't happen in 2nd games.

Is there any special requirements to capturing one of the four takeda generals once they start fighting?

I'm a dumbass and don't have light attack on any of my units, which combined with fairly low troop numbers meaning I generally don't win on battlerating much, and even with defeated warrior hunt I can never capture any of them. Do I just need light attack and/or better rating or are they uncapturable up to a certain point or something? also, should I kill as many troops as I can for better rating even though I'll probably capture some of the shitty units instead? Been trying only killing the guy I want but so far it's failed

>>3444319
If you declare war on Uesugi and Houjou at the same time Takeda won't take over either of them. Uesugi is a walk in the park with autowinning against Kenshin, but Houjou has some really annoying generals.

Oh, and Iga only declares war on you if you are not fighting against anyone else, you can leave them as long you have at least one enemy

>>3444329
One of the dropped scenes in Alice's Mansion is Xavier killing Masamune in Kenshin's route

>>3444330
They will declare war on you after you take over the tenshi sect...you will get a cutscene where inukai decides you are too dangerous.

>>3444337
two hits from light attack is a guaranteed capture, if you still can't capture them from it, it's because you can't. If you dont' have a bushi with light attack, upgrade it for one of your current ones.

>>3444330
Exactly. Most houses do the same; they attack you if you're not at war with anyone.
Make sure you keep an extra action fan and a few negotiators on the turn that you fully conquer a house, and declare war on another house of your choice. This way you can control of the flow of the game and decide who you're going to be fighting.
Some things of course are unavoidable, like the damn Tenshi fanatics. Unless you're playing Kill the Monkey, they'll always attack you.

Is there a way to recruit Kojika, the silly girl running around getting herself scammed?

>>3444356
Yeah, beat Mouri, don't recruit the hanny girl.

>>3444347
oh really, must be a first playthrough thing, don't know too much about it

>>3444347
There is no cutscene if you declare war on someone else in the same turn as you defeat Tenshi Sect

>>3444337
You can't capture the Takeda generals normally.
Tourin joins after you conquer Takeda. The other three are killed if you conquer Takeda via the Attack command, or they disband (and can be hired by other houses) if you "Assassinate Shingen", which is a rather difficult event to trigger. If you do manage it, and manage to capture all 3 generals after they've been rehired, you can deploy all 4 to unlock the Takeda house bonus.

>>3444365
fuuuuuuu

Any help on how to get the assassination option. The only reason I didn't steamroll them before the commanders appeared like my last playthrough was so I could get at least one or two of them, and I don't feel like reloading from 15+ turns ago.

>>3444358
Okita? Hmm, which is better? Also why cant you recruit Kojika if you recruit Okita?

>>3444386
The main condition for unlocking the assassination option is to win all four fights against the generals during a blitz. Yes, it's as hard as it sounds.
The wiki states a 2nd condition. It says you need to have conquered Takeda via brute force at least once, "either on this playthrough or an earlier one", which doesn't make sense because if you've conquered them via brute force on this playthrough, you obviously can't get the option because Takeda doesn't exist anymore.
Either this condition is false, or the dude who put in the info screwed up when he said "on this playthrough".

>>3444391
You just don't do her events until you get Kojika. You can get Okita afterwards.

>>3444386
- Second playthroughs only IIRC
- You must have defeated Takeda once before (you can defeat them on this run and reload an early save, it still counts)
- On a turn where they attack 4 times in a row with the generals, you need to successfully defend against all of them.

Then you get a search option for it.

I was expecting some loli in Shingen's huge armour. Then I was disappoint

>>3444391
that's just a misunderstanding, recruiting okita triggers a scene with Kojika where she looks pretty doomed, so some people thinkg you can't recruit her after that, you still can.
To recruit Kojika you have to see all her scenes at different houses and may also mean you will have to hold off finishing off the Mori house until her scene shows up.

>>3444404
Oh, thank you for the clarification. So what he meant is that you can beat them, save, then reload and it'll count... interesting.
I'll edit the wiki a little bit.

>>3444399
Conquer Takeda via brute force, let the game autosave, reload, THE BLITZ.

>>3444404
>>3444399
Ok, thanks. Guess I'll skip it this game and go for it once I have more points/troops than now.

>>3444411
Ive already seen the mori scene...are there any more scenes after that?

>>3444448
That's probably a good idea. The Takeda bonus is, IMO, the hardest to obtain. Even the One-Eye felt easier.
Plus, I don't know if you were going for maximum power or for points (always a tricky question on first games), but waiting for the generals to all get rehired takes a lot of time and will pretty much ruin any attempt at getting points.

there are two scenes of kojika at Mori, three if you recruit okita

>>3444480
Damn ive only seen the one where she gets scammed into thinking motonori's house is teru's house...

>>3444464
There's a couple with Motonari. In the first one she attacks an Inn hearing one of his daughters was there, but bumps into Motonari himself instead. Some of his men abuse her while the hannies watch.
In another she attacks his castle directly, her companions all get killed and she gets gang raped. I'm not entirely sure but I think that's the last one.

>>3444488
the two Mori scenes dont' come up until you're at war with them

>>3444498
>>3444488
I think there is another scene that comes up after you conquer Mouri areas (and have uncursed Motonari) where she exclaims her chance (hence her storming the castle after having finished the job)

Whats the deal with the okita events where rance loses his action after raping her again and again?

>>3444559
A poster said you could lower it down to only one turn if you prepared for it, but in my case she monopolized Rance for 4 or 5 turns in a row. Quite crippling.

>>3444559
it's something you have to do if you want to clear okita

>>3444559
He is too busy fucking her to fight. The sadist allure.
You must character clear her.

Sorry for being such a retard, but what game is this?

Whats the best captain to use the action textbook on?

>>3444603
One you use often and always runs out of action points.

>>3444601
Sengoku Rance

>>3444603
The normal one?
Footsoldiers are a good choice in general.
I'm not sure if it works with Leila(alternative to giving her the Emperor Ring)

>>3444601
Rance VII, better known as Sengoku Rance.
>>3444603
Depends, really. Every game is so different you end up with a widely varying captain roster, and your tactics might not be the same each time.
I usually end up using them on someone who's decent in dungeons, since Action is the only stat that carries over in dungeon fights.

>>3444652
Almost all the useful classes are excluded though.

Archers, mages and tacticians are too slow to use it anyway...

>>3444754
Tacticians are not supposed to attack a lot, archers barring Yamamoto SUCK, and the few mages you get should use White Destrcution beam or A-Cutter right away.
Foot Soldiers, Cavalry, Diviners using single Guard, increasing Action points for units whose attacks cost 2 (like having Yamamoto use Whirlwind shot 3 times) are good examples.

>>3444778
Erm isnt air cutter 50% damage?

>>3444793
Up to 6 targets. More damage to demons.

>>3444793
Yes, to all, normal on monsters.
And Rizna is immune to magic, so much less likely to get hurt when in the back row.
You win Battle Rating, risk losing.

>>3444805
Add 'less' before 'risk'.

>>3444754
Princess Sen makes a great recipient. Good levels for dungeons, lightning fast for how early you get her, and she only has 3 APs to begin with.

>>3444823
someone needs a word with you

>>3444894
Remember when I stole your plates, your wife, and then made you eat Dog Raccoon stew which was also poisoned?

>>3444894
Oh, Ieyasu... I'm still trying to figure out how to get the "Kill subordinate Ieyasu" event. I tried making Tokugawa a vassal and then messing around with 'em as much as possible (taking their heirloom, raping their maids, etc) but he never got pissed enough.

>>3444931
You need to have Ikkyou in your roster.

>>3444947
Holy crap. I've only used Ikkyu in 5-star games, so I'd never have found that out, thanks!

Oh btw can i still get seigan to join even after conquering the tenshi sect?

>>3444982
Nope. He doesn't join unless you keep the sect alive until Xavier is revealed, then choose to make peace with them, and then wait until the Demon Army appears.
Basically he's not available in all routes and you have to endure the sect attacks and riots for quite a while. It's not hard but it's annoying.

What happens if for some reason you are able to take over Shimazu house BEFORE the temple event?

>>3445039
>you are able to take over Shimazu
You aren't.

>>3445047
By cheating or whateveer

>>3445058
You just can't.

>>3445058
Still impossible.

>>3445065
Why?

>>3445072
Cause you are not allowed to declare war on them.

>>3445072
Because AliceSoft doesn't want you to.

>>3445076
Thats dissapointing

>>3445088
Get over it or play monkey route

>>3445154
kikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikikiki

Will battle permit users only attack if they were unsued at the end of a turn?

>>3445220
yes

Deleted my save folder, so I could start from the beginning, but I still can't get the 'Tease Mitsuhide' thing in sat bonuses. What the hell.

>>3445289
Yeah, strange, I only saw that during my first playthrough. In later playthroughs, even if I hack and get all satisfaction points and use all the options, I still don't get this option anymore.

>>3445329

It should count as my first playthrough though, since I deleted my save folder. I am utterly confused.

>>3445329
>>3445289
Do you actually have him in the roster?

I took over both shinano and saitama, but takeda house is still undefeated?

>>3445329
>get all satisfaction points and use all the options
It's low priority option. If you have to much satisfaction, you probably won't get it until you clear some space for it.

>>3445344
The other 'original' province is "Kai".

>>3445343

Yes, I do. I've gone through 20 turns, and it never appeared.

>>3445349

That's what I did.

Im fighting the last takeda province and why does baba shounen and Hayuka and Yamagatawa get to act before my troops with 9 speed?!

>>3445471
Because they have good stats too. Because cavalry. Because furinkazan.

Also, what decided who Takeda will conquer, since people have mentioned it conquered Hojo for them? (Do Ran and Sounn die in the conquest?) Because for me Takeda conquered Uesugi instead. KENSHIIIIN! ;_;

>>3445495
It's whomever you don't declare war on between the two. If you want both, declare war on both.

>>3445476
because those motherfuckers are a true pain in the ass.

this is the goddamed 4th time I assassinate shingen, and still the other nations don't hire them

>>3445495
You attack Hojo, they conquer Kenshin. You attack Kenshin, they conquer Hojo. Same goes for Mouri/Akashi/Tanegashima.

>>3443910
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
I saw this posted on AT. Must be copypasta.

>>3445504
You attack both of them, and being Kenshin so easy to defeat you are able to take over both nations.

Tagenashima and Akashi sucks, so I don't really care what happens to them

So once takeda conquers hojo i cant do anything with the hojou characters?

>>3445525
You cant even reach hojo...

>>3445529
Yep.
Besides, unless you do everything properly, your only guaranteed recruit is Komatsu/

>>3445529
As far as I know they are lost. Also this only happens in your first time, so you don't really have the power to conquer two nations at the same time (and let's not talk about the battles with Ran and her homo-bird)

If you must chose I preffer Uesugi. Kenshin and Aoi are much better options than Soun and the little bitch, and they are much less dangerous than Hojou

>>3445531
Hojo es easy to reach (the hannys and tanukis are really weak) the problem is the province you reach (three motherfucking castles right in the beggining)

>>3445534
How do you get the scene where Rance strips Komatsu in front of her troops? I captured and recruited her and that didn't happen.

>>3445551
Don't recruit her.

>>3445551
You have to keep her in prison.
Purple event will show up in Owari eventually

>>3445551
You must NOT recruit her. After many turns in jail 3d will tell Rance about the fans of komatsu and how desperate they are. Then Rance can strip her and send her to his harem

What the fuck, the list of bonuses was this minus the tease thing, so I couldn't have had something blocking it.

Is there a certain number of times you have to battle Omachi to trigger her stone event, or do you have to use certain commanders in her battle (after defeating her unit of course) to trigger the event?

>>3445908
Capturing everyone else and completely obliterating her should work.

>>3445912

Weird, I've captured and recruited the other youkai captains and she still refuses to turn to stone.

Does the even happen immediately after the fight?

>>3445916
The moment you beat her, right after the battle (like the other youkai girls scenes).

>>3445920

Well for some reason it's not happening. The only thing that comes to mind is that using battle permits has fucked it up but I've never had trouble recruiting other commanders with them.

>>3445934
Battle Permits are irrelevant.
The only reason it should NOT happen is something weird like taking the House Bonus or playing Kenshin Route and Xavier suddenly attacking.
Doubtful.

>>3445916
I think but im not sure that in the higher difficulties, it's not 100% sure that you capture the youkai commanders, you may need to beat them several times.

>>3445948

Do I have to obtain all of these weird treasures I'm getting after battling One-Eye's armies (crab, tofu, algae, etc) first?

>>3445962

And no worries on house bonus or route conflicts, unless Monkey Route prevents you from getting One-Eye house.

>>3445965
I heard you cannot obtain masamune (only him) in Yamamoto's route.

I supose it's because of kou-chan

>>3445972

Not worried about Masamune yet, just trying to get Omachi's stone scene first.

>>3445972
Just means you have to conquer Dokuganryuu before the seals are broken. Doable if you move fast.

>>3445983
I didn't used any battle permit, and I captured her around the third battle in the second province (she says shes going to fight, you beat her, and she turns into stone) with all the ladies was always the same (unit wiped out, battle won, chick raped)

I dunno what was the food for, but I remember an event about the tresaure of the youkai (an event with Kenshin, it wasn't worth it)

>>3445995
if you have enough points and battle permits (mainly for Takeda) you have more than enough time

To get Mori, the only character from Takuga you need is Ryouma, correct? I'm worried that firing the rest of the Takuga commanders will prevent me from getting the scene for beating the youkai who cursed Mori.

Which province is Red Helmet Dungeon in?

>>3447370
where are you getting the name of that dungeon from

probaly from 赤ヘル?

Dunno how it's translated in these patches, but it's from the Red Helmets Hiroshima Carp players wear.
Someone in Alicesoft is a baseball fan lol

When exactly do you get battle permits? I have only ever gotten them after the demon army shows up.

>>3447572
You get them after the demon army shows up.
Or as a bonus.

>>3447562
>赤ヘル
Oh wow, that's pretty moe.

Oh and what are the parameters for kentarou's adventures to show up?

>>3447612
Do the previous one.

>>3447640
But they take a while to show up right?

>>3447370
赤ヘル (red helmet) is the name of the province, dungeon is 赤壁迷宮 (Red wall dungeon)
As for the place... well, where Hiroshima is currently, of course.

Goddamn it, True Route final battle boss is raeping me hard...

And here I thought you guys told me to take it easy and that is was unnecessary to save Youmeishu for later...
I can't take it easy anymore ;_;

Managed to amass 30000 troops, and ended up with enough clears to get 12 points at turn 82...
And 21 end-game bonuses...

Should I go for dungeons? Or it is more cost effective to just lose to the boss a3 or 4 times?

>>3447705
well we don't really know what commanders you have, and yes it might be more cost effective if you use a continue, two at the most.

>>3443966
>Is it random?
>>3443952
>at the start of a turn
The wiki walkthrough is mistaken. First of all, you need to trigger part of Katsuie's events.
Then you can actually initiate ranmaru's undressing even manually without depending on that Start-of-turn bullshit.

>>3447705
Just make sure you always have Rance or Kentarou out on the floor, and if not, swap someone out for them.
Don't put them both out at the same time, or the AoE could hurt both of them, making it inefficient to try and heal both.

That's... about it, really.
Xavier isn't a pushover, but he's not too bad after several tries

>>3443966
>at the start of a turn
>>3443952
>Is it random?
The wiki walkthrough is mistaken. First of all, you need to trigger part of Katsuie's events.
Then you can actually initiate Ranmaru's undressing event manually without depending on that Start-of-turn bullshit.

>>3447789
The problems if i have all of his events already...already went past the yuichirou one. The purple event for the undressing scene didnt show up at all...until much later when it just showed up randomly.

>>3447788
>Don't put them both out at the same time
I think the game forces me to do this. When I pick the party for the final battle, it says I need both Kentarou and Rance... Or did I misunderstood it?

no you didn't but just switch him out

>>3447818
>just switch him out
I....I can do that??? But I thought that if I switched someone out, they'd be out for the rest of the fight.

BRB, beating xavier. (or at least trying)

>>3447830
they can be switched back in if they still have unused action points

>>3447830
switching someone out just puts them on the sidelines, you can switch people in and out indefinitely

>>3447861
"as long as they have action points left"
forgot to mention that important part

I have rance and ranmaru with the same amount of troops, but rance has 9 attack and ranmaru has 8...how come ranmaru does much more damage in troop battles? Is it the shibata katsuie attack up bonus?

I'm using this setup btw.
Kentaroufag is level 42, managed to let him duke it out with Gigai a few times.
Rance is level 49 thanks to all the Happy Pokkurus I managed to get.
Everybody else are default level, with 1 to 3 dungeons cleared.

The idea is to attract xavier with a guard with shikigami given by Soun. And everybody else pounding on the boss.

Oh and I have 4 more Happy Pokkurus, any ideas who to give it to?

>>3447895
if Rance doesn't have an attack buff, then yea that would be the logical explanation.

>>3447895
>attack up bonus
Might be. The bonuses are very significant. Someone like Tourin with full bonuses and +1000 troops is very hard to kill, I once put him in the frontline and even the demon army had trouble killing him completely.

>>3447906
I usually always give the Pokkurus to Rance, seeing as how you need to use him often and has a lvl 99 cap and all

I thought the latest patch protected women whom are at Trust level from being stolen from Shimazu.

Is one buff the same? E.G. If i have a tactician with 100 troops give an attack buff to someone, is it the same as if i had a tactician with 1000 troops give the same buff to the same person?

Also is it possible to capture the shimazu brothers when fighting against the demon army?

Okay what the FUCK. I just hit turn 81, finished defending against an attack, the demon army still had full control of mori's territories, and suddenly i get a event where it says i pushed them back all the way to south africa...

But i havent done anything!!!

Can you still see the naked Ranmaru event if you cleared Katsuie?

Alright, just gave Kouhime's protection paper Kenshin as the last tweak. Going off against final boss now.

>>3447999
Dont think so...because thats when ranmaru makes up her mind to marry katsuie by any means necessary.

>>3447998
isn't that what happens in the kenshin route

>>3447986
the higher battle strategy the tactician has the more buffs he gives, more troops helps

>>3447998
If it's your first playthrough it automatically does that near turn 80 or x amount of turns after demon army shows I think.

>>3447906
Dont think you captured enough prisoners. I got more happy pokkurus and i didnt even use light attack at all, and i only had ranmaru and yamato with defeated warrior hunt.

>>3448039
Cant be 80 turns, the fifth gourd only breaks on turn 90 if you didnt conquer enough stuff, and you can drag it on longer than that.

>>3447986

Only way to get Shimazu brothers to my knowledge is to kidnap kurohime after they steal one of your female captains.

>>3448087
It could be, if he broke five of the gourds early.

>>3448087
It could be a minimum, really.

>>3443906
> Old. I already read this on http://www.anantalk.com/ (anan = anon) last night.
I came buckets... NOT!

I really liked how they changed Katsuie's personality.
In Kichikuoh, he was a lowlife scumbag...

omg...I think it's homerun guys. And I didn't even used Kentaro yet.

This is all thanks to Soun and my generic diviner. They protected Rance at the right moments, and protected the guard whenever they could.
WOOOOHOOOOOO

I think we all know who the REAL villain is, the guy trying to get Rance into lolis

>>3448196
um gratz

I have the scene where gigai challenges rance to a fight...and why dont i have the option to use kentarou to fight him?!

>>3447906
>>3448196
WOOOOhoooo, three shots from Maria, Natory and Leila should be enough, I hope, DIE DEMON! DIEEE!
(Actually I'm REALLY relieved that I only had to lower his levels once)

>>3448206
Thanks ;_;

>>3448209
You need to turn him to have his event where he fights one of the Apostles.

>>3448209
kentafag needs to be a demon

Oh this is the perfect randomness. Having Leila give the finishing blow, how fitting.

>>3448223
How do i get the event to occur? Im getting my commanders killed here.

>>3448269

Have you talked to Kentarou? Possible the demon transformation event isn't triggering if you haven't done all of his ???? events.

As for killing Suzuka, only 2 ways to do so:

1) Have Souun kill him (one of the steps needed to character clear him). Granted, you actually need to have Souun to send him to fight.

2) After the first fight, there should be an event in Owari (I think) where Rance tries to figure out how to beat Suzuka. This turns the fight into a normal captain battle against Suzuka if you send Rance for the second encounter.

Unrelated, loling at how badly Shimazu has given up. I even gave them a 5 turn advantage of no battling (action fan or battle permits) and they've yet to bother try to steal my commanders. Most annoying thing was waiting for them to recapture a territory so I can finish the 6 great treasures. At least I got some character clears while waiting.

>>3448283
I might be missing some of his adventures...the lasto ne i did was in death country

Looks like I got 54+5 points from my first playthrough.
Danm, diviners are awesome against overpowered bosses, I'll be stocking up at least 3 or 4 of them now. I would have never made it through level 88 xavier without the two diviners I had.

>>3448299
I'm jealous. Put those points into battle permits and popularity staff next game.

>>3448298
Kentarou's adventures are unrelated to his demon event. I had him turn into a demon 5-10 turns before Suzaku challenged me. And that's without doing any of his adventures.

All I did was initiating his regular "purple ???" event two times.

>>3448314
looks like its random then...i already have the hirami lemon event...but still he doesnt transform into a demon. Or is there some other trigger?

Oh btw what is Madou talking about when he talks about waka?

Hmm i reloaded a save, removed battle permits so they didnt trigger gigai, and immediately afterwards im getting the kentaro turned into a demon event.

>>3448309
That sounds like a good idea.
I think I'll take the 3rd fan bonus as well.

I have a question though, do I lose these points when I start a new game?

>>3448366
No. But they don't sum up either. The only score that matters is highest + points for clearing the routes.

>>3448366

The game keeps track of your highest point score out of all games you complete. Whenever you start a new game, you will always have 59 points unless you get a higher score, X, then you will always have X points.

War fan
battle permits
house bonuses (if you have any, One-Eye is probably the only one you'll get on a first run and that's if you beat the demon king and recruited all of their captains)
pop. fan to speed up use for battle permit and for extra help getting 30k troops
kill the monkey option to enter monkey route (good for picking up house bonuses that you don't have)

Maybe throw in the various +20%/X dmg weapons and you'd have a nice starting package.

>>3448324
Rance 5D stuff. That whole game took place in the world of Castle of Genbu, a world Madou created.

Waka is a princess he kidnapped centuries ago and imprisoned her in the Genbu Castle (you don't age there)
She escaped, but her soul got into a painting of her.
She eventually escaped the painting (when Rance got there) and ended up inside a doll.
But she fell in love with Bard (another Rance regular).

So when Madou went to go see his darling princess, he found out she became a doll and was wooing over a human (Bard), so in range he killed her and came back to Japan = the scene you read.

>>3448324
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/3355888#p3357918

>>3448423
>>3448425
Ah thanks, now the system makes a lot more sense to me.
It would suck if the points were used. But it'd be imbalanced if the points added up. This actually fits me fine.

I don't know why anyone would want to burden themseves with a point run in the true history route, it's hard enough as it is and it's so much easier on Ran's route.

>>3448471
I set it as my challenge to get as many points as possible ;_;

>>3448471
I actually ended up doing a point run in True History on my second game. I fucked up and didn't get into a route, so I ended up fighting Xavier on 1-Star. Shit was hard.

Managed to scrape by with 80-ish points though, and Mori bonus, so I was good for my next playthrough.

>>3448485
>Mori bonus
Delicious maids! I want to unlock their bonus, which route would be the best to do that in?

>>3448496
Ran route would be the easiest, as you don't have to worry about one of them popping into obilivion.

>>3448484
Currently I have 201 points available. With that many points I can buy *all* items plus two or three house bonuses and the standard Permit/NP bonuses. Having all items saves you a lot of actions looking for them on the map, and forces dungeons to give you Book2 items (since you already have everything else), so it greatly speeds up a run.
I bet under ideal circumstances you could get over 300 points, which is more than you'd ever need unless you insist on buying every single extra commander and dismissing their troops and them at the beginning for extra cash.

>>3448516
Thanks. Yeah I remember when that happened ;_;

>>3448524
well that's weird.
201 points is exactly how much I have too, and I stopped trying for higher since this is really all I need

>>3448445
Firefox hangs immediately if i try to go there

>>3448556
Here's a copypasta then.

She's a character in 5D.

Waka was a princess who was captured by Madou (Genbu) and held in the Genbu Castle.
Madou stopped going to the castle (probably due to planning Xavier's return?), and Waka supposedly died.
But the soul of Waka was trapped in a painting, when Rance arrived to the castle in 5D.
She managed to come back to life by moving her soul from the painting to a doll.

There's a character who's been in the Rance series since the early years named Bard.
Bard is a handsome and capable adventurer, but he keeps getting the short end of the stick thanks to Rance. He's really lucky he's still alive, actually lol.

Anyways, Waka befriends Bard, who was also trapped in the Genbu Castle (at the end of 5D).

It looks like Madou got pissed that his girl had hots for Bard, and destroyed the doll, killing her. Bard, as usual, got away alive it seems

>>3448533
Holy coincidence, Batman.
Let us now solemnly listen to Auferstanden aus Ruinen. While trying to keep a straight face. Which is impossible for anyone who's played a Rance game before.
Oh, for any newbie who wants the song: http://www.sovmusic.ru/english/download.php?fname=ddrhymn
That shit is so hilarious it gets me every time.

>>3448588
Genbu is so fucked up. Good to know the guy got away at least.

>>3448595
Awesome porn song is awesome.

>>3448198
I wonder how Rance will react if Katsuie ever meets his (future) daughter.

Will there be bloodshed?

>>3448626
Well, he let Kou join Katsuie's unit, so I believe Rance trusts him not to actually try anything with any young girl.
Still... Katsuie used to like voluptuous women before a loli turned him into a lolicon, so he may very well have been involved in some underage porking.

>>3448626
Knowing the flow of Katsuie's events, hilarious things will occur instead.

>>3448661
I can imagine hin raging for even laying eyes on her though.

>>3448675
>>3448663
Definitely, on both counts!

To avoid making a new thread...
I'm facing byakko right now and I'm now regretting not DUNGEON CRAWLIN. My rance is only at level 42, and the lowest I can get byakko's health is to around 400 (I took in kenshin).
How should I go about this boss battle, or have I screwed up too much to be reconciled?

>>3448701
You should be able to handle that. I didn't do any dungeons either by that point.

I started out with my weakest units, then kept them on standby until round 2 of his fight, then beat him up pretty easily. The next fight is a lot harder though....

>>3448722
I should point out I also had Kenshin, Tourin, and 5 out of all 6 reinforcements. If you don't have the the strong high level characters, I can see how you'd get in trouble with an army of generics...

>>3448727
That reminds me, what do the reinforcements do anyhow?

>>3448742
They're commanders. Most of them really good ones.
Leazas gives you:
1. Crappy ninja
2. Super Musket unit, causes another unit to join
3. Super Bushi/Ashigaru unit
Zeth gives you:
1. Mage, good against Demon Army if you get her Cutter spell
2. SUPER POWERFUL Tactician, owns in dungeon fights
3. More powerful Mage

Quick question for Mori house bonus: for the game to recognize it, can Mori be in his ghost form or just uncrused?

>>3448753
It probably works either way. I've seen a few events where they just replaced his portrait like it didn't matter.

>>3448742
>2. Super Musket unit, causes another unit to join
>3. Super Bushi/Ashigaru unit
>2. SUPER POWERFUL Tactician, owns in dungeon fights
>3. More powerful Mage
All of these are good Dungeon fighters. They're also extremely good in normal battle if you use them right.

How do I enter Isoroku's route? Kenshin's and Ran's were obvious, but I get Isoroku early on so I have no clue

>>3448776
After the fifth gourd breaks, and Kou goes missing, instead of searching for her, hit the purple event called "We searched for Kou, but..." or something to that effect. Isoroku route begins, in addition to some ;_; scenes.

>>3448783
So the same as True History, thanks

Maria's damage feels too low and it costs so much to increase her unit size :(.

>>3448822
Maria's damage is extremely high, especially with the double damage skill

>>3448829
Yamamoto does way more damage than her currently...then again ive been using her since the start of the game so its no surprise her unit size is larger. But penetration ignores defense too right? She rapes footmen...

What double damage skill?

>>3448837
Rapid Tulip Fire, 1.5x damage, eats all action flags

>>3448822
>>3448829
>>3448837
I never used Maria all that much before, but this time around I did buy her double damage move (it does double damage but takes all her actions points away).
Combined with the Popularity Staff, it's actually pretty good. I fire once for 1200 damage, then use the double damage skill for a 2400 damage ranged hit.
It's a viable use, but then again it does monopolize the Staff, which could have been used on another character, like Yamagata Masakage or Omachi.

Maria and Kasumi's cannon soldiers damage per unit is higher than archers.
It costs a lot to raise them, but the offensive power they have is undeniably high.

As a matter of fact Tulip damage is the highest direct ranged attack in the game.
It's almost like a long range muskets.

I don't know why you found her damage low, it's absolutely not the case.

What does penetration do exactly?

>>3448886
Attacks two units in the same, front and back line

>>3448870

Especially once you get a decent troop count, then she can wipe out units easily.

Maria is always broken, because she's TADA's favorite gal.
In Rance VI she was the most wtfhax unit.

I dont have the option to build the diviner/musket training grounds...why?

>>3448976
You probably need the cube guy to build it. I know Souun is required for the Diviner training facility.

WHERE IS MY KOUHIME ROUTE?!

End of Rance 10, we will realize that Kou was the only princess Rance didn't fuck.

>>3449180
True route is pretty much the Kouhime route.
Too bad Rance only fucks her in the lolicon route (which isn't so much a route as a Game Over choice), and there's no scene or CG for it.

I want to play as one eyed masamune...could be funny.

Which provinces have the events that lets agireda recruit 1k troops? Ive only gotten one so far.

What happens if you dont kill gigai and just use him as a free way to level up kentarou?

He comes back again.

>>3449553
So you can just farm him to level kentarou up to level 99?

Should have done this from the beginning.

Is there a sequel to sengoku rance?

What is free for all mode?

>>3449557
Yes.
>>3449669
You choose a faction and play as that faction. It's kinda like a war-themed board game. You can build different structures to give you bonuses.
I did it once and I'm not sure I'll ever do it again. Maybe play as the Hannies for the challenge... but it's all combat, nothing ever happens.

Man i really want to fuck the demon king...

>>3449632
Not yet.
Sengoku Rance is Rance VII.

There's a Rance VIII in the making, but the project is currently halted.

39 points here...what should i get?

>>3449736
Logic dictates you get the extra action fan.
I'd personally choose the 'Additional character' bonus (2 good characters without starting war), either Morita Ai)warrior) or the Tactician from the Bonus Characters, and two items of your choice.

>>3449745
Do 20% damage items work in both dungeons and troop battles?

I bought the 20 point special commanders but they are not showing up in game?

So anyone know how do i get them to show up?

>>3449754
Yeah, they do.
>>3449785
Gekko appears after an event in Hara, called "*Lightning on a clear day" or something like that. He's extremely good.
Shizuka appears as an extra reinforcement after you call on Maria.

I think theres a bug with my game, neither gekko or shizuka is showing up at all...i already paid 20 points before starting the game, but i just got maria, and i have had hara province for a while now...they are not showing up at all.

up

>>3450406
You need to trigger Gekko's event relatively early (turn 7-9, I believe) because you need Nobunaga to be healthy for the event to take place. You have to check Hara every turn, and make sure you have enough NP to accommodate him into your army.
If lots of things are happening it might delay Shizuka's arrival. And again she won't appear until you have enough NP for her.