/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>33989731
>Sub-heroines

>sub-heroines

>tfw still coping with nu-Arc

>sub heroines

>sub-heroines

Yumina is a mahoutsukai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2uBL6QiUw

https://youtu.be/zD2uBL6QiUw

>>33992146

>Ciel is the thumbnail

did they remove ciel's tattoos..?

Nice, the cut ins are animated.

>>33992222
I hope not, this and the fucking ahoge

>>33992222
Good, they were ugly as shit

Is Tsukihime a good VN to learn Japanese with? I could play the English translation side by side with it and study.

>sub-heroines

>>33992284
why not read a vn that's fully voiced instead?

>>33992222
yes
Proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD2uBL6QiUw

What's with the sub-heroine thing

>>33992351
i like tsukihime. i do not know any voiced vns

>>33992406
Majikoi is a good one

>>33992222
nothing of value was lost

>>33992372

>>33992406
>i do not know any voiced vns
There's Fate, that's voiced.

>>33992432
thank you fren!

>>33992406
i wouldn't really recommend tsukihime as a starter vn as it's unvoiced and because nasu has an "eccentric" writing style desu. their's also plenty of infodumping and magic stuff. some good starter vns for the medium are the ones made by key like little busters or clannad as they're fully voiced and have simple prose.

>>33992445
Oh

Honestly I'm not surprised he said something like that

>>33992222
Her tattoos were always pretty silly. I still have a hard time imagining her painting that shit on her body every time she goes to fight vampires, for no apparent reason.

type lumina will be released in english, impossible.

>>33992498
Good starter VNs are short VNs, like Saya no Uta. Although nowadays zoomers would rather play ridiculous shit like DDLC.

>https://www.play-asia.com/tsukihime-a-piece-of-blue-glass-moon-limited-edition/13/70eb87
They're already taking pre-orders?

>>33992635
They were anti-vampire something tattoos tho

>>33992498
He's gonna be reading Clannad for 500-600 hours. I think it's better to start with something super short like Planetarian or Narcissu or maybe something a bit longer but stupid easy like Axanael.

>>33992475
You're in for a really good vn. I recommend you save Wanko's route for last because that's my favourite

>>33992657
Id wait a bit for more information regarding bonuses but seems so

Fate remake when?

>>33992653
>>33992686
yeah you guys are definitely right. pretty dumb of me to recommend some of the longest vns to a beginner desu.

Does anyone have or remember when the original tsukihime game was on here because they removed it for some reason?

>>33992779
>wizard's night

>>33992763
What's wrong with long VNs? Not like they have adhd or anything.

>>33992827
some people are too autistic and can't bear reading for too long

>>33992445
>the peak of traditional visual novel genre
according to who?

>>33992881
me

>>33992827
even i wouldn't recommend those vns in english to an absolute beginner because of some parts being an absolute drag and taking an incredibly long time. that's just asking for someone to be turned off from the medium desu.

>>33992694
Based Wankoposter

well, although the tatoos were removed which was a weird choice
the seventh holy scripture redesign is nice I guess

Ciel with Gate of Babylon with black keys now?

>>33992987
PUNISH

>>33992779
Neither Tsukihime nor Kagetsu Tohya is there, and no Melty Blood either, despite that game having like three different releases.

kung fu pose arcueid

>>33992827
As a beginner reading something in Japanese took me around 5-6 times longer than in my native language or in English, even for the simplest stuff. It was also very tiring and I was reading only around 2-3 hours per day on average. So instead of spending an ungodly amount of time reading something easy with little progress in language, it would be better to go through more and more difficult but short titles to be able to read TM VNs much sooner.

Did Nasu mention what he's gonna do with the story of Type Lumina? Is it going to be the same as the original, or a new one?

https://www.play-asia.com/tsukihime-a-piece-of-blue-glass-moon-limited-edition/13/70eb87

>>33992146
>>33992150
I like the voice acting in these clips.

>>33992763
Nah it's actually not as silly as you think, but it requires the reader to be disciplined. My first untranslated VN was Baldr Sky. The long length and repetition definitely helped me out. Rain's route was really painful the first time around, but I got comfortable by Chinatsu.

>>33993174
I want that art book! I NEED it.

>Type-Moon Times Vol. 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gqrcd0maUU

Not sure what the fuck this is but hopefully they say something interesting.

>>33993261
that was the hisui kohaku va stream. only interesting thing they revealed is the melty blood teaser

>>33993169
An AU what-if taking place 10 days before the remake.

>console exclusive

>>33993275
Yup skimming through it; that seems like an accurate assessment. Thanks.

>>33993311
Nice dubs

But just use Yuzu bro, just do it.

https://www.play-asia.com/search/tsukihime
link to all versions

>>33993373
thank you. i was wondering where the switch release was

>the art book is not included with the switch version
Fuck you again Nasu, Sony.

Any chance for a pc release in the future?

>>33993420
But it is? Buy physical.

>>33993432
I'll doubt they deliver in my third world shithole.
>>33993431
100% if not because of Nasu but Jews above him.

>>33993431
It will probably happen eventually.

Q: Is Zelretch's name that well known?
Nasu: Old bloodlines teach their children his name, and even young families have heard that "in the Clock Tower the great magician who led the World of Magecraft into battle long ago is still alive". Those who rise to the rank of Cause may eventually hear of another Magician by the name of Yumina.
Take: Is Zelretch still a vampire in Fate worlds?
Nasu: No, but he's got something along the lines of immortality all the same.

>>33993420
>https://www.play-asia.com/search/tsukihime
It is. The limited version is what you should be looking for.

>>33993506
Usually courier services (DHL, etc.) will deliver basically everywhere. Actually if you're a burger like me, DHL is basically your only choice because Japan Post is a bunch of fucking retards that decided to fuck us over.

>>33993615
Huh

>>33992779
They were doujin release's before TM became a commercial company

Neco Arc or we riot

where the fuck is HF3 day 0 BD rip?

>>33994419
I hope it gets translated soon...

>>33994674
can't translate something I don't have

>>33994674
They usually have shitty aniplex subtitles.

>>33989731
Does anyone knows when Tiger Collosseum upper got voices? The game came out in 2008 and Irisviel and Kiritsugu have the same voices as in Fate Zero and other Fate media. Was it voiced after Fate Zero came out or did this game gave both characters their voices?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZV7x6tvmT0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh6nkxuMi68

>>33994741
beggars can't be choosers

>>33992763
>>33992284
for easy, short VNs I'd rec
Nanatsuiro Reincarnation
Axanael
Clockwork Ley Line (episodic, long if you count all 3 parts as a whole)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFs1GjKBmx4
EMIYA 2020

>>33994419
1 hour bros

>>33995448
more like 3 days

I wish Nasu or Takeuchi would finally give us a serious answer to why Type-Moon never does English translations. At this point, every Japanese studio releases English versions of their novels if they can afford it, even every TM-adjacent developer translates Nasuverse games into English. We even have this silly situation where the new Melty Blood is getting an English release, but the VN it ties to doesn't.
I really want to hear what they actually have to say about this.

>>33995895
Pretty sure it's just racism, after it has made so much money any reasonable businessman would be pushing for internation releases

>>33996005
>racism
uhh, no
they're just gatekeeping it because of toxic western culture
and they're right to do so

>>33995895
>every Japanese studio releases English versions of their novels if they can afford it
Not really. Plenty of bigger name studios don't really give a fuck.

>>33995895
They're probably just out of touch. No way would modern day Type Moon reject free money knowingly.

>>33996005
I really doubt that. You can see how much of a westaboo Nasu is in his own novels, it's plain as day (from vampires to King Arthur to him being obsessed with FROM Software games, he obviously doesn't find Japanese mythology as exciting as foreign myths), and I remember a story about how Takeuchi based both Arcueid and Saber on a transfer student he fell for in uni, or something like that.

>>33995895
I've heard because their licenses are really expensive. It's more like that no english translator accepts their expensive licenses.

>>33996080
Most likely this. They're still a studio of like 15 people, I believe, so they probably don't think that they could pull off a worldwide release of anything. It's a different matter when it's being handled by bigger studios like Arc System Works or Marvelous, which have been working with the West for decades now.

>>33996142
Foreign model yeah

>>33996209
not only that, it is pretty clear it is hard to find someone who won't butcher your work with SJW shit
it is cheaper for them to just let fans translate it like always
fans also butcher the translation, but at least they do it for free

>>33996061
This.

>>33995895
I wish someone asked him about this in his interviews.

>>33996005
literally who isn't racist against ameriburgers?

>>33996291
Hm.. I'm starting to think that type-moon doesn't care abiut fan translation even bootlegs of their old VNs as long as it creates new fans who buy other parts of their franchise like gacha servants, blu-ray discs, manga volumes, figurines or any other parts.

>>33996209
Maybe this and the VAs charge too much, after all JAST apparently couldn't pay all the VAs for Majikoi and Fate VAs are mostly big names now.
But I don't know, Fate is such a big thing now that it's weird that nobody would be willing to make the investment.

>>33995895
The guy just told you he scrapped the PC release because he wants every single reader to read the remake on a big tv for the best and 100% accurate experience and you're wondering why he doesn't want releases in other languages? Also FGO NA and China censoring shit probably doesn't help his opinion on overseas releases either

>>33996535
Does FGO NA actually censor stuff? I just thought they were too incompetent to translate anything properly.

>>33996579
Their translations are mostly inaccurate because they're shit, yes. But they also changed Emiya alters skin color and probably "detroit Emiya" nickname because it was considered racist

>>33996535
China does, but to give FGO NA some credit, they might enjoy too much freedom in their translation escapades, but they never censor anything. The only case of censorship in my memory happened ages ago, when they bleached Detroit Emiya's skin so that no one would cry about blackface. Everything else remains intact.

>>33996516
I don't think a VN would be a good investment on the west unless you have some really cheap deal, like ryukishi who just made the fan translation group the official
Melty is in english because it actually has a big fighting game culture on the west
VN have never been a culture here, all VN consumers are either niche people who import things from japan or pirates

>>33996608
>>33996611
>detroit Emiya
lmao I totally forgot that was a thing. What the fuck

>>33996535
>The guy just told you he scrapped the PC release because he wants every single reader to read the remake on a big tv for the best and 100% accurate experience and you're wondering why he doesn't want releases in other languages?
And the same guy who said this is releasing it on Switch.

>>33996623
It was pretty silly, but I guess it could be misconstrued as blackface and Aniplex didn't want any bad press at the time when the game was still getting started, especially since he was all over the promotional materials for EoR.

>>33996686
it even looks like he has big lips in the jp version, lmao

What happened?

>>33996608
>detroit Emiya
what??

>>33993688
Yumina is either the First Magician or the Fourth Magician

>>33996686
I mean he still looks blacker than regular Archer in the left, but yeah.

Would anyone be interested if I lazily (MTL) translated Nero’s Fate Extra CCC manga version?

>>33996668
I mean yes, Nasu is retarded. He really does need somebody to tell him when he is being retarded every single time. Takeuchi stopped giving a fuck now that they have unlimited money and doesn't fill that role anymore. Just look at the HF movies
>I should rewrite the HF route. -> Wait director doesn't want me to rewrite HF. - > Wow I really like these movies and was wrong about Sakura.

>translate it in house
>add English option into the original release
>don't distribute it in the West, the gaijin will get it themselves somehow
Minimum spending, maximum profit.

>>33996754
nanako horn became an anus

>>33996827
what, he wanted to rewrite HF?

>>33996769
Tamamo cat calls him Detroit Emiya in the CCC event. Nasu wrote the event. Emiya alter has black skin. Detroit is a city that went to complete shit and is now full of poor black people that commit a lot of crime. Nasu wrote that event.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYJ3bqSkN8

>>33996835
>translate it in house
Uh, that's a shitload of work for probably minimal return. The laziest option is to just license it out to some shitty western company but I guess maybe no one wants to do it or TM licenses are too expensive.

>>33996005
>Pretty sure it's just racism
based
fuck westerners and more importantly fuck anglos

>>33996827
>>I should rewrite the HF route. -> Wait director doesn't want me to rewrite HF. - > Wow I really like these movies and was wrong about Sakura.
Elaborate. I avoided most of the movie stuff.

>>33996863
and people think I'm shitposting when I say Nasu is racist

>>33996754
Defenseless.

>>33992372
People get triggered by type-moon's opinion on the maids
This >>33992445 got a bunch of replies when it happened even though it was nothing new

>>33996922
Nasu is not racist, he just doesn't like black people.

>>33996922
Detroit was also a paradise for blacks once
you're the racist for assuming referencing Detroit can only be the bad Detroit

>>33996993
>you're the racist
yes

>>33995895

Simple

Nihongo>Gajins

Let's be honest they don't give a shit and I think the global release is just a advertisement for the new Tsukihime or they just really want a lot money just like their FSN.

>>33996863
>that random group listening to a cheesy love pop ballad instead of the usual jungle beats
huh

>>33996847
>>33996903
「自分がもしHFを映像化するなら、大手術が必要になると思ったんです」
>I was of the opinion that if HF were to be turned into a movie, it would need a large scale operation.
HFのアニメ化は違う肉体に脳移植する位の勢いで作り直して、2017年にふさわしいドラマツルギーに落とし込まないといけないだろうな、と
>That I would need to remake it as if to transplant a brain into a new body, for it to have Dramaturgy fitting for 2017.
その『覚書』は分厚い紙の束で、文字が全て手書きで書かれていたんです。これは魔導書か？！と唖然としました。
>But the "Memos" [Sudo wrote] were a thick stack of paper, all hand written. I was shocked, thinking it must be a grimoire.
まさかここまでだったかー！甘く見てたわー
>To think he would go this far! I underestimated him.
須藤さんは原作の大事なところをしっかりと解析していて、「この構成があるからHFは面白いんだ」とまとめてくれていた
>Sudo-san analyzed the important parts of the original work carefully, gathering them while saying "HF is interesting because it's constructed like this."
これは自分が意見を出さない方がいいんじゃないか？早く完成した映像が見たくなった
>So I started thinking that maybe it would be better if I don't voice my own opinion. Really made me want to see the completed movie.

>>33997139
My Japanese is garbage.
Is he actually sceptical of the of the contents of the film, or that it was cut into several parts? Or both maybe?

>>33996922
>Nasu is racist
wtf i love nasu now

>>33997139
Nasu always was both too hard on himself and too proud at the same time. One of the reasons why TsukiR took as long as it did is apparently because he refuses to even touch the original, considering it too inferior. He seems to think that the quality of his works is a straight line going up instead of a wave function it actually is.

>>33997220
Side story of Arcueid learning Baji Quan with Miyako incoming.

>>33997220
why arcueid only has 4 thingers on her right hand

>>33997220
>I have razor-sharp claws that can cut through anything like fucking Wolverine
>so it's time to punch people!

>>33996613
My problem with Ryukishi is that his VNs are a bit too boring or at least Umineko is a bit too boring. I have problems with getting the motivation to continue it. It doesn't help that they are very long and repetitive. His drawings are also really bad, although at least there are updated versions of it. I had no problems with continuing nasu's VNs. Maybe it's because they are more action focused.

>>33997317
Ryukishi uses the mystery trope more than action or lore themes like Nasu
Maybe if you read Ryukishi like a mystery, seeking a solution and etc you will find it more enjoyable

>>33997243
>he refuses to even touch the original, considering it too inferior

What's wrong with the original?

>>33997243
The original Tsukihime is the best thing he has written in his entire life, everything else has gone downhill

>>33997439
>extreme low budget at the time, Takeuchi had to help Nasu with his wageslave job
He is probably focusing too much on production value

>>33997477
What about Kara no Kyoukai?

>>33997542
>Kara no Kyoukai?
What is that and where can i read it?

>>33997477
>>33997570
>he doesn't even know about Nasu's first novel series
Anon I...

I actually thought KnK was pretty meh

>>33997602
I thought it was just his sarcasm

>>33997617
Well you thought wrong.

>>33997617
Is it even popular? I think that the movie series made it popular in Japan, but in the west it seemd that only type-moon fans talk about it.

>>33997640
Only Fate is popular in the west

Bring me ArcKEK

>>33997690
Tsukihime seems to be more popular than KnK in the west.

>>33997709
It's hard to judge. KnK has 7 main movies which are relatively easy to watch for the typical anime fan. On the other the hand, you basically have to be a JOP to read the novels since it's pretty common knowledge that the fan T/L's are all hot garbage. Tsukihime is a VN which makes it more niche than anime films by default, but it's also a really, really famous one so lots of people have read it (plus it does actually have a T/L).

Wow Japanese fans are vocal about the new tsukihime remake and they are not happy. They're discontented with the long delay and with the whole only the near side routes will be released thing. I guess they were holding out hope for a satsuki route. There's even a petition that's garnered thousands of signatures to have the far side routes included. Obviously that wont happen but it shows how unhappy they are.

Does anyone have any experience ordering from the TM store? Apparently the extra tokuten if you order directly from them is something called the Tsukihime production staff book. Are there any good proxies that you could use to buy from a weird online store like theirs that only operates every so often?

>>33997779
Source: My ass

>>33997779
>not even a chinese tweet to back up his shitpost

>>33997788
In terms of proxy services for getting random stores, I usually use FromJapan. They do preorders and stuff.

>>33997779
Nice post brother

>>33997788
I think pretty much all proxies can work with whatever URL you give them.

>>33997795
>>33997846
>>33997856
It's just a shitpost from /a/'s attack on titan threads.

>>33997243
In the hf2 pamphlet he said something utterly retarded along the lines of "If these movies had been released earlier I never would have wrote CCC"

>>33997976
what you can learn about it: never trust Nasu

>>33997976
Why was HF so divisive?

>>33997570
>What is that
anon.......

I like the track 08 remix in the teaser. Reminds me of the 28 days later theme a bit.
>>33997976
Ah, yes "BB is Sakura redemption" or something like that.

>>33997542
Kara no Kyoukai was good but not as well-structured and solid as Tsukihime. It really was a prototype. Then, Fate/stay night started leaning into the shounen genre a lot heavier (but it was still fine), and the rest is history.

>>33985129

>/fgog/ is making a shiki vs shiki debate
fgo is really dying heh

>>33998124
>Will be released in one form or another
oh no no no no sacchinbro? Are we getting a Tsukihime/Kaleid?

>>33998140
they're also spamming Akiha a lot

>>33998140
What debate is there to have? KnK Shiki is overpowered, not only are her eyes much more powerful, but she also can use them at her leisure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nj3LfXizHs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLNF4KxwUu8

My two favorite ost from KT. Hope we get their remixes.

>>33998124
Is this from Kagetsu Tohya? Well, at least the promise is there but it's so vague that anyone who tries to hold Type Moon accountable on the basis of this vague promise is maybe asking for too much.

I would say that there would probably be pretty big backlash from older fans if Type Moon doesn't deliver on giving Satsuki a route. It was one of the primary reasons after all people wanted one in the first place.

>>33998124
>one form or another
There's plenty of wiggle room there. That plus disc was way before the remake was even announced of course.

>>33998157
Prisma Sacchin when?
Will the white moon princess have the role of Rin in it?

>>33998013
Literally the only reason Nasu hated original HF is that some people on the internet were shitposting about Sakura not being a virgin. Then he cuts the scene saying she's not a virgin in realta nua. Then he makes CCC with 900 different sakuras, and in a game full of sex references the only character that has viriginity mentioned is Liz. HF adaption gets announced, he wants to do a rewrite, they don't do one and even keep Sakura saying she's not a virgin in, the movies are liked by the general public and suddenly you have Nasu saying shit like how "I was wrong" and "CCC wouldn't have happened". The guy is actually incredibly petty, he removed the clock line when releasing realta nua for the same reason.

>>33998193
I like this one a lot. I really hope Len is shown giving Shiki his dream in the remake.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JPbEo25C-A

>>33998221
>Then he cuts the scene saying she's not a virgin in realta nua
You say that, but I'm like 99% sure Kotomine says basically that in RN anyway during that church scene.

>>33998173
They're debating who is the biggest gary stu/mary sue character

>>33998221
He removed it because he retconned her rape didn't he? He's probably going to do the same with Kohaku.

What if the Sacchin route was DLC

>>33998267
>They're debating who is the biggest gary stu/mary sue character
What FGO is full of gary stu/ mary sues since when did they have a problem with such characters.

>>33998318
that's because someone posted pic related and now they assume MEODP is above everything so it must be a gary stu/mary sue trait now
They imply that
>Nero chaos is Tiamat level
>Nero chaos can only be defeated by antiWorld attacks
>conclusion, MEODP is at least antiWorld
and then all debate started

>>33993373
Is it available at other stores yet? PlayAsia is a scam with their taxes/shipping

>>33998267
Calling Shiki a Gary Stu is silly. Not only are there tons of ways for him to kick the bucket in his own game, but he never goes beyond what any protagonist would do. The world doesn't bend itself around him, he's the one who gets bent by the world, most of the time.
Nasu was clever to give Shiki a fragile body, it did a great job at handicapping his main ability so that he never reached Shirou's feats like kicking Gil's ass with sheer sword autism.

>>33998363
That's retarded. MEODP do not have a measurable level of power, they erase anything as long as Shiki can see its death point. It's not a weapon, it's a Delete key. But it's not overpowered either, since it causes massive stress and makes you go mad if you use it.

>https://www.play-asia.com/search/Tsukihime+_A+Piece+of+Blue+Glass+Moon
$67 for the standard edition

>>33998566
How the fuck are they coming up with these prices. It's 7700 yen for the regular edition which works out to 69.86 USD at the moment.

I'm not buying Tsukihime remake. I bought Mahoyo and they fucked me in the ass.

>>33998694
>they fucked me in the ass.

How?

>>33998694
>buy the greatest kamige known to mankind
>fucked in the ass
???

>>33998702
>>33998708
>Nasu says it's part 1 before release
>never release part 2
>people expect me to cocksuck him 9 years later

>>33998744
Alright but that doesn't change the fact that Mahoyo is kamige

>>33998759
I certainly would expect you of all people to think so.

>>33998772
Dunno man, seems you're just mad about Nasu lying. He does it all the time so I'm numb to it. Judge the work on its own merits.

First VN other than KnS2 that I'm buying. I hope it sells well. Nasu needs positive feedback before he decides to shelf the rest of the routes because it didn't do well.

>>33998791
Yes I am mad about Nasu lying because I bought his lie and paid his overpriced price. I could have just not given him money and pirated the game and I'd feel less mad about my money being blown on fucking hookers. That's why I am doing just that for Tsukihime remake to make it more enjoyable.

>>33998744
>Nasu says it's part 1 before release
No he didn't retard.

>>33998849
All VNs are priced like that my friend.

>>33998878
Yes he did. He even did it so shortly before release that it was obvious he was afraid people just freak out about the game being short.
>>33998888
You should actually try browsing the internet outside of 4chan for once in your life.

>>33998942
>You should actually try browsing the internet outside of 4chan for once in your life.
I don't understand what you're trying to say. You complained about the price and I pointed out that it's a totally normal price. Practically anything that's not some single heroine nukige is going to be 7000+ yen on the regular edition. Welcome to the industry.

>>33998363
Sounds like shitposting to me rather then an actual discussion

>>33998942
The first time Mahoyo's sequels are alluded to is in the 4gamer interview released a month after the game was released.

>>33998979
playasia can still overprice shipping though

>>33999130
That's a totally different issue though. Welcome to importing anything from Japan.

Why didn't Shiki turn into a vampire when Sacchin sucked his blood

>>33999232
his nanaya white cells are too chad to let that happening

>>33999232
nanaya blood

>>33999232
Akiha's mojo, he killed the blood before it was too late.

>>33999255
>>33999267
>>33999290
It would be an interesting premise to explore in a potential sacchin route. Him being turned into a vampire by sacchin and Arc and Ciel try to hunt both of them down.

>>33999356
Nasu always cancels the routes and stories with the best premise like the Illya or Sacchin route.

Ciel looks hella cute in new melty blood

>>33998363
ok, this proves it. Anyone who says Shiki can't kill servants is just blatantly wrong and chooses to remain ignorant.

https://twitter.com/lisa_rec/status/1376962175009390593

>>33997243
In the interview it’s stated that he went through the original Tsukihime. His complaints were the obvious lack of production values and the shortness of the routes. Tsukihime hasn’t held up too well for me as the lore dumps in the Arc route are repeated to you over and over and the general writing isn’t amazing. It’s still had some great moments, but a rewrite and more scenes between the charcters to better build their relationship sounds good to me. It all depends on if Nasu is able to capture the tone of the original work and add in new things that make it better. I’m worried about how it’ll turn out.

>>33999842
I mean the debate was never just "can he stab the black point on a servant and kill him?". It was more "can he keep up with servants in a straight up fight and when".

>>33999232
Satsuki remarks that he's already claimed or something, referring to Akiha. She thinks that he would need much more blood, or something like that.

she deserved to be happy...

>>34000042
>the lore dumps in the Arc route are repeated to you over and over
Lore dumps are actually handled very well, for the most part. Shiki doesn't have patience for long explanations, so you're not getting 15 minutes of kitchen lore dumps like in Heaven's Feel for example. Everything is to-the-point, you're only told what you need to know.
The only problem I have with Tsukihime is Shiki being sometimes dense (but to a much lesser extent than Shirou, or other similar protags), and surprisingly, not enough SoL. The original novel really doesn't let you know the girls as much as you'd want to.

Why does Ciel have an ahoge and no tattoo's in her Powered variant anymore?
I hate this.

To those that skipped or haven’t seen the TM stream today you should skim through it as it has the soundtrack to the Tsukihime Remake The soundtrack is shaping up to be amazing. https://youtu.be/4Gqrcd0maUU

>>34000188
>kitchen lore dumps

>>34000231
I don't like the OP, it's thoroughly way too modern for my tastes although I can understand why it's there. Also, the newer soundtrack rearrangement is okay but I'm lukewarm to it. Not looking forward to how my favorite tracks are going to sound. Very likely they will overarrange and ruin Lamplight and Parting, and it's very likely the latter won't even be in the remake considering when it was played and used for.

>>34000208
I like it, but I would prefer if she was also blonde

>>34000564
Now, she looks exactly like Arcueid.

>>34000060
shhh, let me bait someone

>>34000687
Since when can Taiga kill servants? Since Tiger Collosseum?

>>34000687

>>33998122
>knk
>good
retard alert

>>34000719
Don't be so contrarian.

>>34000719
Which is worse? KnK or Fate Zero?

MB2 unironically looks worse than its predecessors.

>>34000771
knk is worse, both are shit though

I need Shiki to be much nicer to his imouto this time around.

>>34001012
Akiha is so fucking hot, i'd make so much children with her that Genghis khan would look like an amateur

>>34000782
>pixlated af sprites looking better
haha look at me Im a contrarian

>>34001050
I can't see Akiha as a person who would want kids

>>34001012
How is she so pretty?

>>33995895
>At this point, every Japanese studio releases English versions of their novels if they can afford it,
You have no idea how bad the visual novel translation scene is and how many popular novels are never-evers
Just learn moon

>>34001050
She deserves only consensual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreating.

>>34001113
She's embodiment of elegance. I'm glad her long skirt was kept. Imagine her in a short skirt. That would've been a travesty.

>>34001093
Doesn't matter, as her husband i will have plenty of reproductive sex with her, we will raise our beautiful children together and everything is going to be ok

>>33989731
If there are prototypes of Tsukihime in KnK, prototypes of F/SN in Tsukihime, etc. why do people get mad at prototypes of F/GO in Tsukihime?

>>34001199

>>34001199

Why was Akiha's hair drawn brown in her route? To signify she hasn't fully inverted?

>>34001273
Her hair becomes more red as her power awakens
It's dark red, not brown

>>34001290
If I was Shiki I would tell her to make her hair red and have sex with her.

>>34001273
>>34001290
to be fair, what we often refers as brown are shades of red, orange or yellow.

>>34001309
If I was shiki I would tell ciel to keep the glasses on

This version of Tsukihime in the OP has super high-res font. Looks odd, I don't remember it being like that.

>>34001354
ONScripter scales that way. We get this remark every thread, which I guess means a lot of people are playing it for the first time which is cool
Find the cfg and remove the # in the resolution setting, then make sure it's 640x480 or whatever you want it to be

>>34001199
10 fucking years ago, good lord.

>>34001395
Not surprising. With the remake being announced, there's a spotlight on Tsukihime for the first time since forever.

>>34001239

>>34001239


I'm pretty sure 99% those people are not "mad" but more like a bunch of broken records trying to make a sound now for some attention lmao.

>>34001395
>640x480
Good looks. Looks better now.

>>34001239
Because FGO sucks

>>34001395
>telling people to downscale their fonts
Anon pls. It's 20 years later and VN engines still can't render text at native resolution 99% of the time. You should be happy when it happens.

>>34002251
I'm not telling him to, I'm just saying that's how you do it if you prefer it that way.
After all, it's the only game configured to do it by default. Also, there are some graphical errors that I believe come from scaling

>>34002320
It's been forever since I last messed around with onscripter, but scaling seemed fine from what I remember. It's probably bicubic or lanczos which is acceptable.

>>34002251
It actually helps with Tsukihime. The font it uses drops a shadow a few pixels in distance (so that text won't disappear on white backgrounds), but when you upscale the font, this shadow doesn't get upscaled with it, and text starts blending in with visuals. It's not a huge deal, but it can be somewhat distracting.

>>34002251
Kinda offtopic but it's kinda confusing that VNs haven't moved to an engine based on Javascript entirely for portability purposes as shit as that is for performance and development cleanliness and I know there are several engines like that but they aren't widely used. The most performance intensive thing I seen in a VN was the fireworks effects in Katawa Shoujo and nothing else has really come close, since most of the increased "graphical fidelity" has come from clothes or facial animation.

One would think that adopting web technologies would allow for these things to look as good as they could be and cut costs down but Japan has stuck with ONScripter, KiriKiri 2, and other custom engines. I would've thought Type Moon would've abandoned their custom KiriKiri 2 stuff a long time ago for something like that for maximum portability.

>>34002541
Japanese developers in general are firm believes in OLD GOOD NEW BAD, which is something I actually respect about them. But I don't think it's a question of new technology. Those who still use engines like KiriKiri2 are using them because those engines are braindead simple to use. You don't need any knowledge in programming or anything, just open up the text editor and type away. And those developers who are not concerned about complexity, like Nitro+, use their own in-house engines. So there's no need for one size fits all framework.

Is Nasu retarded?

>>34002668
Yes.

>>34002659
I guess, inertia is a big factor as you said. I guess the engines will probably work until they don't and fall over for some reason or someone wants more portability.

>>34002668
Nasu really wants to remove vampires from Fate really badly for Tsukihime to be the place to talk about vampires. What an autist.

>>34002773
If there's one thing Japanese know how to do, it's keeping shit working. I don't doubt that KiriKiri2 will be supported until the universe implodes.
Although it does make you wonder if they'll notice Ren'Py one day. It's pretty much as simple as KiriKiri, but it's more powerful thanks to the Python scripting. For some reason, only Western devs use Ren'Py, but they sure love using it.

BD where

>>34002844
Merging the two settings was dumb anyway

>>34002871
I haven't seen anything close to the Katawa Shoujo fireworks graphically so far so when Japan decides they want to do that kind of stuff in their VNs, then that functionality will probably be hacked in their existing engines or some new engine based on 20 year old thinking will be made.

But as far as Ren'py goes, it's doomed to be western based. And as I said, if you want lowest common denominator, you really should be targeting Javascript. But looking at a Japanese programming languages survey based on job boards from HROG, it seems like Python is behind even C/C++. And the pay is higher in Python or Javascript than in C/C++ so yeah. It is abysmal though, I make like 3 times that in the US doing C++ developer work...

>>34002871
Some japanese Vans use Renpy, I know recent Miel ones do

>>34003003
>Vans
I meant VNs

New melty isnt on pc???

>>34002541
>engine based on Javascript
Please anon don't give them bad ideas

>>34003081
It's not like it's novel, there are engines like Tyrano doing it already. But the compromise may be to compile to wasm and fire and forget. Though the main issues still is that wasm isn't ready for primetime, missing interoperability with the DOM APIs being most crucial. Anyways, enough off topic chat, we're supposed to discuss Type Moon here.

>>34002844
But that's good.

I love Alice so much bros... When will we get mahoyo 2 ?

>>34003159
Why?

>>34003164
Is it true that she’s part of the first magician’s family with the new info?

>>34002951
Well Dead Apostates are still a thing as they’re still referenced in FGO so some kind of vampire is still in Fate.

>>34003185
>new info
What info?

>>34002990
>Katawa Shoujo fireworks graphically
I remember jackshit about Katawa Shoujo but was that impressive? I've seen Age do weirdass distortion effects/animation on sprites in like a 2001 game.

>>34003281
“ We now the name of another Magician. Likely the Successor of the First Magician. Her name is Yumina. You know the same lady who the Botany Department of Clocktower is named after which are made up of mainly Witchcraft users.”

>>33992694
>>33992475
There is a bonus route after all other routes are done.

>>33998246
The original said "She is a victim of sexual abuse. It is easy to imagine the kind of training Matou Zouken imposed on her.
To state the fact, Matou Sakura is not a pure virgin, but a woman who knows men."

In Real Nua it's "She was Zouken's guinea pig, it easy to imagine the kind of training he imposed on her,
To state the fact, she's not the pure maiden you think she is, but a witch corrupted by worms"

They changed the implications that Shinji raped her and Zouken had magi fuck her for mana.

>>34003698
>清らかな乙女ではなく
Anon, the implication is literally exactly the same.

>>34003312
Here's a video: https://youtu.be/KQsyjqn_cJ0?t=1160

I wouldn't term it impressive but I don't think any other visual novel did animated fireworks until that point outside of the opening. 4LS deserve some props for showing what Renpy could do other visual novel engines couldn't in terms of scene dynamism. It was actually a pain point in the demo release that it was noted in the release notes although was fixed more or less with optimizations and time.

https://ks.renai.us/viewtopic.php?t=1268

Anyways to bring it back on topic, I don't think I saw anything close until the climax of Mahoyo as far as particle animation and such, but hopefully, Tsukihime R will have a ton more of this dynamism.

>>34003698
Sounds like it's the same meaning, but with less explicit wording (since RN was 14+, they had to tiptoe over a lot of shit).

So who kills Satsuki in Near-Side routes?

>>34003698
The original said btw, you can google them to confirm

間桐臓硯がどのような教育を施したかは想像に難くない
間桐桜はお前が望むような清らかな処女ではなく、男を知る女魔という事だ

Yeah, it was a lot more explicit.

>>34003928
Unknown but probably Ciel or Arc

>>34003928
Nasu

>>34003834
The particle drop off is certainly neat, but hard to appreciate.
Mahoyo's effects are much more pronounced, even if lots of it isn't that demanding.
Remember they said they nerfed the effects since potato PC's couldn't run it.
Also I think they wanted a higher resolution originally.
Unnerfed Mahoyo should be on consoles, god damn it.

>>34003834
Honestly I can't remember a specific animated fireworks scene before, but I've definitely seen lots of particle effects and the like (a common example is animated rain) that should have made it possible if the devs wanted to do it.

>>34004037
>Unnerfed Mahoyo should be on consoles, god damn it.
Literally just do a new HD PC release. Plenty of companies do that shit like Nitroplus.

>>34004069
Well PC too, it has been 9 years.

>>34002668
So Zelretch is no longer the same vampire guy using his second magic to hop parallel timelines/worlds anymore?

>>34004037
Yeah, I think it's much more pronounced in the way where Type Moon likes to use sprite transformation paint fills and etc. and such even if it is "cheaper" than the particle stuff from KS. I wish I still had the KS demo for the non nerfed fireworks but I don't think it looked much difference. I think it was just there was more of them at once. Anyways, there was no minimum specifications which was why this problem got pointed out in the first place and people were surprised.

Mahoyo didn't need to be restricted to the resolution it was at. 4k would've been questionable at the time but they could've done 1920x1080 easily. And it's not like consoles at the time, PS3 or Xbox 360 wouldn't have been able to run them given how not graphically demanding they are then and even now. Look at the specifications Mahoyo demanded.

>Operating system (OS) XP/Vista/7
>Processor (CPU) 1 GHz Recommended: 2.66 GHz (multi-core)
>System memory (RAM) 1 GB
>Hard disk drive (HDD) 5 GB
>Video card (GPU) DirectX 9.0c compatible
>Other 1024x576 resolution
>A drive that supports dual-layer DVD-ROM (DVD-9)

Based on these specs alone which may or may not have been definitive, the only downside is needing a computer from the new millennia to run it (AMD Athlon at 1 GHz released in 2000). A harder requirement may be needing a DX9 capable GPU, but you could probably get away with running it in Swiftshader to do CPU rendering. So the only thing definitive was needing to be able to run XP with a big enough swap file for the RAM requirements. And you could probably do that with a Pentium but dear god, it would probably be a disaster.

>>34004069
Particle effects are more common now, but they used to be super rare. And in the cases where it was used for animated rain/snow, some of them used sprites instead and the real ones that did it were peanuts compared to the fireworks because the particle is predefined and static and only needs to fly in a semi-random path from one edge of the screen to another and it's gone. It's basically would be the same as doing a sprite transform, roughly, in terms of amortized cost. Of course, it's more complicated now with splashing and whatever fancy things they do to get them more realistic, but it took a while for VNs to get even somewhat fancy with using effects like that.

>>34001050
I miss your usual "Akiha makes me smile"

>>34002668
are you sayin that he hops into one universe he a vampire, but hops into another then he not?

>>34001513
Hide Contrarian Threads, Ignore DoomPosts, Do Not Reply To Hater Posters

>>34003980
It has to be Ciel. Satsuki became a vampire on the second day, and in Near-Side, that's when you attack Arcueid. In fact, you almost attack her in Far-Side, but Satsuki's appearance distracts you. So Arc wouldn't be able to do anything about her, and Ciel would be on the move at this exact time. When you crash at her place after Arcueid's "death", at night, you notice that she's taking off the robes, so she was hunting outside while you were asleep. That's probably when Ciel caught Satsuki as she was killing her first victims.

what makes Mahoyo so good?

>>34004590
it's really not, it's just people pretending to be able to read japanese shitposting on non-speakers

>>34004590
This guy.

>>34004561
She could have dies at some unspecified day later. I agree Ciel is more likely though given Arc's weakend state.

>>34004590
Great plot, excellent characters, nice prose, amazing OST, and stunning visuals.

>>34004703
Yes, like you said. Plus, you pretty much never leave Arc's side after that, especially because Nrvnqsr pops up, while Ciel is prancing around doing what she does best.

>>34004590
Because at its center is the relationship between Soujuurou and Alice and Aoko which makes it more focused than most other Nasu stuff.

>>33989979
I tried fixing the hair as well as change the nose. Does it look better?

>>34003185
She uses magic that is one of the domains of the Yumina department
Yumina is a name related to the first magic user, probably the current user

>>34004823
Good effort, but it's pointless. You'll need to redraw her eyes and hair completely, and at that point, it's easier to just abandon the idea.

>>34004823
Won't do it for me. I have to get the original hair and granny skirt back at least but even 4 has problems for me. I agree with >>34004890, you have to redraw her face to not be Saber to get anywhere. Sadly, I think the vast majority of fans would've been fine with #2 or #3.

>>34005007
4 looks good, i don't like the saberface though

>>34004823
That looks great actually. Wish they kept the triangular bangs

https://twitter.com/TM_TSUKIHIME/status/1377063929508065281
Time to cough up.

>>34005034
God I love it when Arc pouts like that, you just wanna hug her and tell her that everything's gonna be fine.
Fuck you Takeuchi, I just know you won't be able to replicate this magic.

>>34005083
No cash until next month, but it's gonna be sold out by then I bet. Oh well.

>>34005083
I already ordered mine through play-asia

>>34005083
Official site is very down.

>>34005158
yeah, was going to comment that
considering the site was done by typemoon, I doubt it is using proper servers

https://www.aniplexplus.com/itemBcGQxCvS
Aniplex has the best tokuten (Tsukihime staff book), but no international delivery like amazon, so it'll probably arrive a bit later after going through a proxy. Amazon on the other hand has the worst tokuten (a fucking phone wallpaper) but has international delivery.
Maybe I should order from Aniplex and also buy the digital version.

>>34005115
>sold out
Anon it's a preorder. They don't sell out. You're not trying to buy some obscure hipster's band, limited to 200 copies, vinyl pressing.

>>34005172
Nasu decided that server maintenance should only be experienced with Windows 2000 software on a large TV, please understand.

>>34005083
>>34005277
NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>34005271
I'll get it when I have some free cash then.
>You're not trying to buy some obscure hipster's band, limited to 200 copies, vinyl pressing.
Knowing some Japanese developers, you might as well be doing that.

>>34005247
>spoiler
That's what I'm planning to do.

>>34005247
Also amazon preorders aren't even up yet.

>>34005298
Something that has a real publisher/distributor (i.e. not doujin) will accept as many preorders as they get. Limited/first press editions stop being printed sometime shortly after the sale date so once they sell out it's over. Regular editions will stick around as long as said publisher/distributor is willing to keep them in print. It's kind of random on that last point. I've seen major label stuff go out of print after years whereas sometimes independent stuff stays around fine.

>>34005247
>月姫・制作スタッフ本
Yup looks like the aniplex jews are going to get my money then.

>>34002541
>>34002659
IIRC TM has some of KiriKiri creators in their staff so it's easier that way for them. It also seems Tsukihime is being developed on a brand new KiriKiri (Z)

>>34004233
>>34004037
>>34004069
They have to redraw every assets and animations for a 1080p release, it's not gonna happen.
They could if they're going to release Mahoyo 2 on consoles and need to port the first.

>>34005493
Mahoyo's assets were almost certainly downscaled for the final release. No way they actually made those at 576p.

>>34005531
I don't know I think it could go up to 900p with some elements, but I do not expect there were FHD assets

>>34005091
>>34005493
https://github.com/krkrz/krkrz
Doesn't look too active. Some good pull requests stuck though to modernize compiling it and make it faster. Bet Type-Moon have some sort of internal fork which is why they can't merge the pull requests.

Also who said they had to do that. They could run Waifu2x on it and call it a day. I prefer if they could fix up the output but that would be too much to ask of Type Moon to do.

Do I need to play anything before Melty Blood?
Or is it literally just a fighting game with no plot?

BD doko?

>>33992657
Seems legit. Preorders are just a few hours awayanyway.

>>34004590
Even without Aoko it would already be near the tip top of VN's.
But it has Aoko, so it is without peer.

Amazon preorders are out. Ships to my shithole.

>>34006846
But bro your production staff book tokuten...

>>33992779
http://www.typemoon.org/main.html
>>34006910
Not worth the hassle to be honest. I can live without it.

>>34006910
I hate it when the tokuten is actually good. Whatever, the extra fee that a proxy service entails isn't a big deal.

>>34005974
Tsukihime. Each Melty Blood version is a sequel to the previous. They stopped having story modes later and it's just arcade gags.

>>34006910
Doe anyone know if orders from play- asia get any tokuten? Kinda kicking myself for jumping the gun on the limited edition

>>34007109
No clue but anything that's not aniplex is going to be useless knick knacks like a poster or whatever.

>>34005007
3 is the optimal version. The necklace and the boots were good additions, although as long as it is Takeuchi's modern style there will be those who complain

>>34004590
The characters, the setting, the visuals, the lore. Especially the characters for me

>>34003834
>hopefully, Tsukihime R will have a ton more of this dynamism.
Tsukuri Monoji is also directing it and 9 years have passed so I wouldn't call that far-fetched

>>34003164
tfw no cute Alice eating mochi. I feel your pain bro...

HF movie is up

>>34007435
Did they kill Shizuki?

>>34006835
Seeing them develop as a group was half of what made Mahoyo for me.

>>34007585
Finally

>>34008801
It is so refreshing for a VN plot, more like a typical YA novel.

I was always wondering, what photos were used for backgrounds in Tsukihime? Was it public domain stuff?
And if it was, I was thinking that someone autistic enough could track down the original high-resolution photos, do some photoshopping, and make something like an HD 16:9 version of them.

new
>>34009691