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>Perhaps the most famous official gaffe occurred in 1986 when then-Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone said in a speech that average intelligence in the United States is lower than in Japan because of America's "large number of blacks, Puerto Ricans and Mexicans." Nakasone eventually apologized.

>> No.3342618

>>3342605
He's right though?

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>> No.3342624

how is this a gaffe?

>> No.3342625

>>3342618
He was.

>> No.3342626

>>3342618
I thought you knew better than this, /jp/

>> No.3342636

... Apologised for what?

>> No.3342646

/jp/ - /n/

>> No.3342649
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>>3342626

We believe in empirical evidence.

>> No.3342693

I do not understand why people living in the supposedly free countries have to apologize for speaking the truth.

>> No.3342709

>>3342693
Maybe because he was proven wrong...?

>> No.3342715

>>3342693
He didn't mention rednecks. Omitting part of the truth is the same as lying.

>> No.3342731

>>3342709

How? The average IQ of a Mexican is 90, African-American - 85. This is a fact. You may discuss its importance (North Korea has a very high average IQ and it does not help her much) but it is a fact that these ethnic groups are intellectually inferior to Whites whose average IQ is 100 or East Asians who reach 105 - 107.

>> No.3342742

>>3342731
Halfassed samples do not make for a reliable argument.

>> No.3342753

>>3342709
Tell me how.

>> No.3342758

Why the fuck are we even talking about this? Its not 1986.

Also, ITT: Shut ins try to be racist.

>> No.3342768

The average IQ is 100. 100 IQ is defined as the average IQ.

You can't have an average IQ of 90, because the average IQ is always 100. People can be smarter or dumber than the average, but--on average--their IQ is 100.

Also, more people tend to be above average IQ because the few mentally handicapped are at such an extreme low IQ that it tends to skew the average.

>> No.3342780

>>3342758
>ITT: Hippie liberal faggots giving life to a petty /n/ troll
Fixed.

>> No.3342781

>>3342731
Flynn effect was here, IQ is shit.

>> No.3342816

>>3342781

Flynn effect applies to everyone. When Whites get more intelligent, Blacks get more intelligent too. But the difference remains.

As for the 100 average - it is the world average, it is not scaled for each ethnicity. It includes more than a billion of above-average Han Chinese, 700 million of below-average Africans, and so on. So it is possible that the average for a particular group will be lower than the 100 figure.

>> No.3342850

>>3342816
>When Whites get more intelligent, Blacks get more intelligent too.
Except that's not what the Flynn effect is. It's IQ scores rising despite us not suddenly being twice as smart as people hundreds of years ago. IQ can't measure innate intelligence because of this. It measures education and test taking ability, which poorer, and thus disproportionately black, people will inevitably score lower on.
tl;dr take your racist shit somewhere else, faggot.

>> No.3342861

>>3342768
learn to math.

so you are asserting that the average iq of a population in a country is identical to that of the human iq average of 100?

is it so hard to think of each country having a different iq average because of different populations or people? that if you add the iq of each country together and find that average THEN it would be 100?

that in USA, the average iq is lower, but on the global scale, the human iq average is raised by lets say the european or asian populations?

>> No.3342877

Americans have been braiwashed into believing that people are created equal.

>> No.3342883

i am mexican and i can insure you that i am not an idiot

>> No.3342911

>>3342850

Look, the Jews were massacred in the Holocaust and they recovered. Israel is the best developed country in the Middle East in terms of the Human Development Index even though it did not even exist before the WW2. The Japanese were affected by the Great Kanto Earthquake, American firebombings and finally, the nuclear bombings. Look at Japan today. The same goes for South Korea, which was the world's second poorest country after the Korean War. Look at Germans, destroyed, occupied and divided for years. Look at Poland, destroyed in WW2 and affected by decades of communist rule. Look even at the Arabs in the UAE who succeeded not only at creating a developed country thanks to oil revenues, but also at diversification of the economy so that oil contributes only 25% of the GDP today. Even the Latino / Hispanic countries of Latin America are far better developed than any of the sub-Saharan African countries. Chile is pretty close to becoming a first-world country, which cannot be said about any country in sub-Saharan Africa.

Still, you will deny the truth.

>> No.3342965

>>3342883
Haha, oh wow.

>> No.3342969

>>3342911
>The Japanese were affected by the Great Kanto Earthquake, American firebombings and finally, the nuclear bombings. Look at Japan today.
>Look at Japan today.
They weren't helped at all, right?

Sorry, but I can't believe in your "truth".

>> No.3342987

Stormfront called, they want their thread back.

>> No.3343022

>>3342969

Who helped Chile or Poland? They may be poorer than the Western nations, but are still far better off than most sub-Saharan African countries which get a lot of help. The issue of development is another one: Africans fail here so miserably that even Vietnam, a country horribly affected by numerous wars and the inefficiency of its early communist rule period (1975 - 1985, before Doi Moi) is better developed than ANY sub-Saharan African country other than oil-rich Gabon. Note that noone helps Vietnam to develop, it also does not have natural resources that many African countries possess.

>> No.3343046

>>3343022
>sub-Saharan African countries which get a lot of help
Not really.

>> No.3343063

>>3342816
>>But the difference remains.
There's debate on this. Considering the test groups and how the data is cut the difference has reduce by nearly half (65-6 points as opposed to 15 points) and the flynn effect has ened for the majority and is catching up with the minority.

IQ nonsense aside the prime minister is an idiot who doesn't know that the average is 100 points, blacks are not lowering it and Asian people are not making it higher.

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>>3342911
Well said, Anonymous.

Always lol at all the hippies who don't want to accept the truth. "If we keep saying all people are equal maybe it will become true!!"

>> No.3343075

>>3343063
He said average intelligence, not IQ.
Only idiots consuse those two.

>> No.3343079

>>3343067
Don't reply to yourself.

>> No.3343082

>>3343075
>consuse

LOL WHOSE THE IDIOT NOW

>> No.3343085

>>3343079
Oh no, the ultimate comeback!

>> No.3343089

>>3343067
Yeah, except you're generalizing. I'm not liberal yet I see that the IQ differences are reducing and believe that while there is still a gap between averages that people should be based on merit and the less fortunate (Be it in education or economically) should get a helping hand. Don't associate racism and outdated thinking with conservative anymore please. It makes me look bad.

>> No.3343095

>>3343089
>believe [...] that people should be based on merit
Nobody is saying they shouldn't. All we're saying is that blacks are on average less intelligent than whites. It's you who read all sorts of other things into it.

>> No.3343097

>>3343085
Sadly, it's not a comeback.
It's just a tip.

>> No.3343100

>>3343075
IQ tests measure g you dumbass.

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>>3343097
Yes, that is quite sad.

>> No.3343110

I'm not racist but even I have to admit that blacks are not all up there in intelligence.
Just look at their degenerate "ghetto culture" and compare how many blacks enter elite colleges, own fortune 500 companies, are top lecturers and researches in science/technology, etc. Now compare that number to the same statistics for Jews, who are also a minority. There's no surprise that the results correlate nicely with the fact that the black average IQ is about 40 points lower than the Jews.

>> No.3343121

>>3343110
Don't say that! It's all the fault of whites keeping da black man down.

>> No.3343122

One of the biggest things depressing IQ in Sub Saharan Africa is malnutrition, which results in iodine deficiency. This is a big problem in rural China as well; in the mid 1990s, the Chinese government began a campaign for iodine fortification in salt, and they reported a 12% increase in the IQ of school children. Something so simple can have profound benefits.

>> No.3343123

>>3343110
I don't know man. I rather be a bit more dumb but earning millions in the NBA or doing sports.

>> No.3343124

>>3343123
>implying every black man is making millions as a pro-athlete

>> No.3343128

>>3343122

>One of the biggest things depressing IQ in Sub Saharan Africa is malnutrition, which results in iodine deficiency.

Vietnam had severe malnutrition problems in the past, Ukraine had even worse. They recovered. Why can't Africa?

>> No.3343138

>>3343121
Stop this stereotype, I'm black and Ive never once in my 21 years of life ever said that or have I heard my family say that. I don't know about Americans but Africans don't blame everything on whites. Hell my people recognize the tremendous strides that America has made.

>> No.3343139

>>3343128
Because Africa is not a country?

>> No.3343142

>>3343128
Because they're cases are not the same. You're oversimplifying a complex issue and comparing cases with different cultures, political states and peoples.

>> No.3343147

>>3343022
>Who helped Chile or Poland?

Chile got helped a lot by US to prove that the capitalist "free market" policies of the regime work.

Poland borrowed a lot of money abroad and the debt was subsequently greatly reduced, since they wouldn't be able to pay it back otherwise.

>> No.3343155

>>3343147
So are you claiming that African countries don't borrow large amounts of money and then have their debt eliminated by debt relief?

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>>3343128
They could. Eventually. Currently Africa is a place with the worst fucking diseases you can get (see picture), little to no sanitation, horrible weather and medical supplies so scarce that doctors find the need to patch people up with nylon sacks, in addition to their malnutrition problem. You can't exactly hope for an entire continent halfway into shit like that to suddenly solve all its problems.

>> No.3343163

Obviously, it is only a coincidence that the only economic powerhouse in sub-Saharan Africa, South Africa, is also the country that was governed by Whites until 1994 and not until 1960s or 1970s like all other countries in this region.

>> No.3343170

ITT Racists can't understand that IQ is not strictly determined by genetics and futilely use anecdotes to try to prove their point.

>> No.3343171

Saying that africans, mexicans, etc. are on average less intelligent is entirely correct. That's not to say that you have extremely smart black people, they exist, they're just more rare.

Saying that there is no difference between the human subspecies is just currently politically correct thing to do, so as not to piss everyone off. It doesn't change the facts though.

>> No.3343173

>>3343155
I'm not claiming anything, I merely answered the question.

>> No.3343178

>>3343162

What about South Africa, then? It is the part of the very same continent, it has all the diseases including AIDS, the same weather, but it is pretty successful if compared to other countries. Oh, the fact it was ruled by Whites the longest does not matter, right?

>> No.3343181

>>3343162
>>You can't exactly hope for an entire continent halfway into shit like that to suddenly solve all its problems.

Sure you can! 50 years ago, South Korea was worse than most of Africa. They were purely agricultural with like no modern industry. And look at them today.

There are plenty of shitty places in the world. Most of them are improving themselves. Africa is not.

>> No.3343182

>>3343170
ITT: Butthurt niggers that whine about racism without actually refuting the points of the 'racists'

>> No.3343184

>>3343138
Then why do you feel it refers to you? I'm not referring to you, I'm talking about the idiots that do say such things. If you don't do that, then it doesn't apply to you.

>> No.3343185

>>3343170
The graphs aren't necessarily saying it's entirely genetic, it might have something to do with culture and upbringing, etc.

However, when you look at the graphs, it's still true that blacks are on average less intelligent than hispanics, followed by whites, and then east asians. Whether that is entirely genetic or not is irrelevant.

>> No.3343189

/jp/ - Racism/General

>> No.3343191

>>3343173
Well, ok.

Although technically true that Poland and Chile got help, they didn't get any MORE help than other countries. Which is the point that matters.

>> No.3343192

>>3342731
Hispanics are very intelligent.

It's just that they (I should probably say "we", since I'm half-Hispanic myself, but have a white father) are so damn poor that most of them can't afford to go to school. I mean shit, you have to pay money just to go to high school.

Because of that, only rich Mexican children go to those schools, and I bet all the smart ones just live the rest of their lives picking crops at lower than minimum wage.

Basically, if you don't give people a chance, then you will never know of their potential. Also, people have to be willing to learn.

Some Mexicans just don't give a shit and would rather work in a field of crops than open a book and study. But some don't. My mom worked really hard to learn English so she could get a visa and move here legally. She now speaks fluently in both languages and has a better vocab than the majority of you here and she's working on her college degree now.

>> No.3343196

>>3343178

South Africa has a nuclear power station, modern gold mines, advanced telecom and transportation grids, all developed by... [PROTIP: not Black people]

>> No.3343200

>>3343178
Yes it does, simply because the whites had experience managing shit so funds backing them up actually worked and not some inherent superiority.

>> No.3343206

>>3343182
Hurr durr, IQ is not completely determined by genetics and therefore not determined purely by race. Consider everything you've said refuted as that's more or less an empirical fact and trumps any over-simplified anecdotes you can come up with.

>> No.3343210

>>3343178
What part of "you're oversimplifying a complex issue while ignoring other factors" don't you get? In your simplified world of straight lines being white is the only factor right?

>> No.3343213

>>3343170
>>3343189
At least make it less obvious that you're the same fucking faggot.

>> No.3343214

>>3343196
Proof?

>> No.3343221

>>3343192
Stop bringing up individual examples. Nobody is saying there aren't any smart blacks or hispanics. All we're saying is that statistics say they are on average less intelligent than whites.

>> No.3343224

Since when does going to school improve your IQ.

Either you have IQ or low IQ. Going to school don't actually improve your IQ. Frankly speaking, with the way the education system is going, going to school probably reduce your IQ.

>> No.3343226

Anyone else here read The Bell Curve? It's really great.

>> No.3343228

>>3343206
Are you fucking 12?

The point here was that blacks, mexicans, etc are less intelligent as a whole. Sure, it's possible for a porch monkey like you to be more intelligent than the average white (although you're not). But as a general rule, it doesn't happen.

Learn to read.

>> No.3343234

>>3343206

Refuted how? Rather, that works out in my favor a lot more if it's not determined by race.

>> No.3343236

>>3343192

That is why Mexico makes progress. It is already richer than most African countries, and obviously it is better developed. Maybe in 30 - 50 years Mexico will become a developed country, but none of the Black-governed nations of Africa will do so, I am sure.

>> No.3343239

>>3343206
If you really think that was enough to refute the mountains of evidence there are to prove his views correct you are truly delusional.

>> No.3343243

>>3343206
>IQ is not completely determined by genetics and therefore not determined purely by race.

Yeah, but genetics do partially affect IQ so you can say that whites are in general more intelligent than blacks, or viceversa, in the same way that blacks are, in general, taller than asians.

That average IQ study probably means jack shit because of the education options >>3343192 mentioned though.

>> No.3343244

>>3343224

Then how will you know your IQ if you can't read the questions on an IQ test, reading being one of the first things you learn in school?

>> No.3343248

>>3343243
I wonder why blacks never get so butthurt whenever someone mentions they on average have longer dicks than whites.

The fact it works in their favor obviously has nothing to do with it.

>> No.3343249

>>3343226
That's outdated and a majority of it's finding has been disproven and it's significance greatly reduced, where the fuck have you been?

>> No.3343251

>>3343214

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_South_Africa

>The formal economy of South Africa has its beginnings in the arrival of Dutch settlers in 1652

Which implies no formal economy, thus - no civilization, before the arrival of Whites.

>> No.3343253

>>3343244
Have you ever taken an IQ test? A lot of them use symbols for a large portion of the test.

>> No.3343254

>>3343248
I get butthurt. Having a huge penis is animalistic and it's origin stems from the likening of blacks to apes.

>> No.3343258

>>3343244
Obviously you need to know basic reading/color/number to do IQ test.

But there is also IQ test that don't require you to know basic reading. Try giving a dumb kid that can read 4colors and ask him to pick which don't belong and ask another smart kid that cant read which color dont belong. The kid that can read will probably give the wrong answer.

>> No.3343262

>>3343251
You're an idiot for likening formal economy to civilization.

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>>3343251
>using wikipedia as "proof"

>> No.3343269

>>3343251
That proves nothing.

>> No.3343273

>>3343251
>hurrdurr everyone was retarded before GLORIOUS WHITES brought them the light of civilization

>> No.3343279

>>3343254
Man, you're really preoccupied with this stuff if you think that far into it.

>> No.3343285

>>3343192
Exactly. Intelligence is affected through both genetics and environment. Not emphasizing or providing the means to achieve a good education in your culture will have a longer term affect on a person's intelligence. As a child matures, the upper bound on its cognitive ability becomes fixed based upon its experiences. If a child experiences a broad eduction that stresses cognitive development, the child will have a greater chance of being more intelligent during adulthood.

That's not to say genetics isn't also an important factor, as it is, and everyone has a genetic upper bound on cognitive potential. Proper education and intellectual pursuit is just a means to maximize that potential during the stage of a person's life when they are still malleable.

There is a longer term danger in not selecting greater intelligence as beneficial across multiple generations as the genetic pool becomes less saturated with good genes. If intelligence and education is recognized within a population group as a good trait, that population group over time will weed out that bad genes and become on average more intelligent through many generations. It's kind of like dog-breeding, only over longer timescales.

This is all a very touching subject, people don't like to face the facts as they find them demeaning to their personal beliefs or self-pride. You just have to accept it, and move on, and take steps to correct it if it bothers you so much.

>> No.3343286

I think the worst part about niggers/beaners is that they retort to "BAWWW RACISM" as an excuse for fucking EVERYTHING.

If they get completely hammered and receive a DWI, they'll call racial profiling.

If they do poorly on a test, they'll bitch and moan and say that it was 'conditioned for whites'.

If every single job they apply for doesn't accept them, it was 'only because they're a minority'.

Shit like this has led me to BECOME racist over time. They're just like women, only replacing 'sexism' with 'racism'.

>> No.3343294

>>3343279
No really, I was in art class when this point was made.

also wiki

"The weekly Q&A column "The Straight Dope" deduces, based on pornographic Greek art work and Dover's aforementioned study, that in ancient Greece an uncircumcised and small penis was culturally seen as desirable in a man, whereas a bigger or circumcised penis was viewed as comical or grotesque (at least in the high-brow view), usually being found on "fertility gods, half-animal critters such as satyrs, ugly old men, and barbarians.""

>> No.3343299

>>3343267

I always knew the trolls who keep these threads going were the guys from the Idol threads.

>> No.3343308

>>3343239
The mountains of evidence consists of "Oh look, we're going to ignore culture, history, and all sorts of variables and focus purely on demographics. Super-reductionism solves everything."

IQ tends to have a higher correlation with socioeconomic class than anything else.

There is no causative link established between race and intelligence. Arguing as if there is one is a hasty conclusion.

>> No.3343315

>>3343308
>There is no causative link established between race and intelligence

Either you're trolling or an absolute fucking retard. You can't just cherrypick which evidence is 'real' and which evidence is 'FAKE AND STAGED'.

>> No.3343316

>>3343286
Anecdotal evidence is shit. The black guy you met is not the same black guy in Africa, Haiti, Washington or Canada. Stop bringing up personal stories like they matter.

Also this:
>>If they do poorly on a test, they'll bitch and moan and say that it was 'conditioned for whites'.

Is true, but replace "whites" with "majority"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence#Caste-like_minorities

Every minority listed here has a lower IQ than the majority, this extend beyond race to even religions and cultural differences.

>> No.3343321

>>3343299

I always knew you were a nigger, ZUN.

>> No.3343325

>>3343196
>advanced telecom

lol nothing to do with the threads content or discussion going on but,
carrier pigeon>South Africa's Broadband network,
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/8248056.stm

>> No.3343327

>>3343316
Explain how minority foreign asian students studying in western country do so well and are always among the high scorer please?

>> No.3343329

IQ doesn't measure intelligence.
It measures if your logic is compatible with that of (white) psychologists and scientists who elaborated it in the 20th century.

>> No.3343332

>>3343315
I think you're confusing causative and correlative. Any how the same applies for you, you can't cherry pic, as of now the issue is complex and both sides have evidence. Lets not plug our ears to either. Lets not advance political propaganda (I'm looking at you liberals) or racist ones (I'm looking at you racists) and ignore the truth.

>> No.3343333

>>3343316
Hurr. At what point did I bring up a personal story?

>> No.3343336

>>3343329

Which explains why whites score lower than Asians and Jews.

>> No.3343338

>>3343294
Yes, but the ancient Greeks glorified the sodomy of young boys. Small dicks made that task easier.

>>3343248
Last I'd read, there's no statistical difference in size between blacks and whites when both are fully erect. When flaccid, black men are bigger.

Advantage: Whites, due to convenience.

>> No.3343340

>>3343321
For once he's right, though. Look at an idol thread, any idol thread; the posts are the kind of posts you might expect on a board like /s/. In other words, completely inane.
It's not really much of a shock that the kind of people who take this /n/ stuff seriously are idiots.

>> No.3343341

>>3343315
There is literally no scientific consensus regarding nature/nurture and intelligence. If you are too busy sucking on your own cock to understand, it is no fault of mine. What the hell does cherrypicking even have to do with what I said.

I'm arguing that the issue is ambiguous and that racists will take advantage of the ambiguity to show an apparent "truth" with stupid super-reductionist arguments.

>> No.3343346

>>3343333
Now, you are being racist.

>> No.3343347

>>3343327
Did you even read the link? Asians are in the high caste.

>> No.3343359

>>3343327
Because they generally come from mid/high class families that can afford to move across continents. They're not a randomized sample; you are stupid.

>> No.3343361

>>3343347
>Castes are combined systems of occupation, endogamy, social culture, social class, and political power. Caste should not be confused with class, in that members of a caste are deemed to be alike in function or culture, whereas not all members of a defined class maybe so alike.

Oh cool, I didnt know minority asian students are consider high caste.

>> No.3343362

Can you guys argue about history instead? That's usually educational. This is just stupid.

>> No.3343375

>>3343327
Not all of them do well. Better than average perhaps.

When I was taking CS & EE in university, most of the foreign Coreans and Chinese in my program kept to themselves. There were two Japanese girls as well. When our tests and exams were scored, they were usually published openly so you could see everyone else marks. About half of the kids in my program were foreigners. The majority of the A+ students were either local whites and local asians, most of the foreign asians fit into the B to A category. Most of the foreign indians and pakistanis ended up in the C to B category (but there were also an equal number of local whites here too, fucking lazy bastards).

I'm white myself and graduated with a 3.9/4.0 GPA. Now I browse 4chan on a daily basis. I can feel it sucking the intelligence out of me.

>> No.3343376

>>3343333
Hi, you must be stupid. Any rant you give without providing logic or citing a reference and is born from your own personal perception is anecdotal. You met/heard saw blacks bawwing over whatever the fuck they baww over and you're bringing it up here while ignoring the fact that black people are not monolithic in opinions. We have one black guy here saying the exact opposite of what you described>>3343138
his testamony contradicts the image of black people blaming whites for everything.

>> No.3343385

>>3343362
Hitler attempted to cure the world of the jewish plague. If it weren't for those kike sympathizers in the USA, his moral goal would have likely been achieved.

>> No.3343386

>>3343361
Unrelated text proves your point how? Explain how defining castes disproves that Asians are held in higher regard from their black/hispanic counter parts?

>> No.3343387

>>3343362
Otaku culture and White nationalism are both rally points for beta-males. Some overlap is to be expected.

>> No.3343395

>>3343385
Are you saying the world would of been better if Germany had won?

>> No.3343397

I don't get it... why does he have to apologize about saying something that is true?

>> No.3343399

>>3343386
Maybe Black/Hispanic are just more stupid in the first place thus they are held in lower caste?

>> No.3343408

>>3343395
Yes, because their wouldn't be any jews jewing me over on a daily basis.

>> No.3343414

>>3343299
Actually, that's the ONLY picture of an idol I have saved. I never participate in idol threads. I was just looking for a good reaction image (and I don't have many to choose from because I hardly save any).

>> No.3343442

>>3343397
Because the truth is racist.

>> No.3343445

>>3343397
Because the truth is usually the most painful for many people.

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>>3342646

>/jp/ - /n/

>> No.3343518

http://psychology.uwo.ca/faculty/rushtonpdfs/PPPL1.pdf

Rushton, J. P., & Jensen, A. R. (2005). Thirty years of research on race differences in cognitive ability. Psychology, Public Policy, and Law, 11, 235-294.

>> No.3344084

It is true that the less educated minorities bring down the average intelligence in the United States.

The real question is why are these minorities less educated--is it biological, or a result of cultural oppression and self-perpetuating socioeconomic disadvantages?

>> No.3344116

>>3343518
The mean of their race may be lower, but because you are stupid, most of them are still smarter than you. ^_^

>> No.3344204

>>3344116
Wow, you sure told him with that post.

>> No.3346315

>>3343181
Seriously now but stop disussing reruderu matters if you don't understand politics. The whole south-east-asia region was financially supported by big institution and tax payer money by the global corporate fascist state for their monopoly game with the attempt to create the next India out of said region with mass slave labor and cheap experts out of funded education systems to then again import the produced goods and said experts to lower the living standards in the west which again increases the profits of the establishment.
Say hail globalization, because you have been sold into slavery dumbass

>> No.3346327

>>3343518
Again the environment is the key factor for groups. Period. If you are born in an area where education is not needed nor provided your congnitive skills will be lower, not only by educational measures but genetically. If you raise the living of standard and educational level said area will increase over a certain period of time. That's called nature, dumbo

>> No.3346359

>>3342605

Yeah, and there isn't a fuckton of stupid people in Japan.

>> No.3346381

>>3343308
THIS JUST IN: INTELLIGENT PEOPLE TEND TO SUCCEED MORE THAN THEIR LESS INTELLIGENT PEERS!

>> No.3346400

why apologize for what is true? I like how "latinos" and blacks (mostly the former) are constantly trying to defend themselves as if they were legitimate, contributing members of society. Okay, just because you are black or mexican doesn't NECESSARILY mean you are a stupid, worthless sack, but there are a disproportionately large number of mexicans who are unemployed, uneducated, on welfare, have too many kids they can't support, etc etc. It's just a fact and it's obvious to anyone who isn't blinded by retarded american "political correctness"

>> No.3346401

>>3344084
Cultural oppression? Really. I think what you mean is that they are being held down by terrible government policy. Support education vouchers. Fuck the teachers unions. Allow all minority students the opportunity to use the tax dollars their parents pay to get tuition at a REAL school.

>> No.3346409

Blackman here with an IQ of 120 according to my local psychology center.

I also have a 7 inch penis and 3D bitches regularly flirt with me when I go outside, even though I have no interest in them. How does this make you feel, /jp/?

>> No.3346413

>>3346409
I'm also a 20 year old NEET so I guess the non-contributing part is true. I wouldn't have my life any other way though.

>> No.3346414

>>3346409
Further proof 3D women are inferior.

>> No.3346419

>>3344084
Having lived around these people much of my life I can honestly tell you that them being 'culturally oppressed' is lofty bullshit that middle-class white people who are totally out of touch learn in college and tend to believe. The reason they stay uneducated is because they just don't give a fuck, eh pichi gringo

>> No.3346423

>>3346401
Minorities oppress even themselves

They don't want to be helped

read
http://martynemko.blogspot.com/2009/06/white-teacher-speaks-out-what-is-it.html

>> No.3346459
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3346459

>/jp/edos feeling superior to, well, anyone

>> No.3346469

>>3346459
all the neet and otaku here are superior to everyone, my child. vn is enlightenment, touhou is nirvana

>> No.3346473

hahaha owow the rascist again (Zionist circles were co-pioneers in the eugenics movement and elitarian fabian jews were the majority in the ruling class of the Soviet Union under Lenin)

http://www.alternet.org/world/142478/israeli_government_ads_warn_against_marrying_non-jews_

>> No.3346475

>>3344084
Blackman here again. I'd say it's how they're brought up. I wasn't brought up in a black neighborhood with dumb niggers weighing me down, but rather a very nice high-class suburban neighborhood where I was allowed to think and act as I pleased.

Niggers are dumb because of their culture and being unwilling to change. Take an actual black nigger and compare his intelligence to that of a nigger of any other race and you'll see what I mean. It's oppression, as a previous post put it. It's as simple as that. They think barely getting through school is fine, and put minimal effort into things that you actually need to function properly in a high-class society. God damn I hate niggers so much.

>> No.3346478

>>3346473

...anyone care to translate what the fuck he just said?

>> No.3346480

>>3346475
Self-oppression.

>> No.3346483

>>3346480
Mexicans are oppressed
>self-oppression
Black and oppressed
>self-oppression
Whites are oppressed
>FUCKIN NIGGERJEW LIBERAL FAGS!

Keep at it, buddy. We all can't work at MickyDs.

>> No.3346487

>>3346423
Again you should learn to abstract and stop jumping on conclusions on current cultural realities. The middle-class in the US is almost complete white (altough being under siege by the globalist), the ethnic minorities were in a disadvantage up until the 60s and since then the US is in it's downward spiral into a 3rd world nation (in favor of monopoly profits and globalist).
When something like this happens the society at a whole will become corrupt, degenerate and delusional. Now look around you and it should make 'click'

>> No.3346492

>>3346483
As I posted, I meant they were oppressing themselves. I've witnessed it first hand.

"Why do you talk funny?"
"Man, you don't like rap?"
"What's with those clothes?"
"Damn man, don't you ever feel like just fuckin a bitch?"
The list goes on. The things that niggerpeople prioritize over an education don't help in real life at all. It's a shame.

Not really. I've never met a cooler black guy than myself.

>> No.3346497

>>3346478
wat, what's your problem buddy? too deep for you?

>> No.3346511

>>3346492

I'm a god damn tripfag, and even I have to frown at your attempts to "fit in" with faceless people who honestly couldn't give a shit.

What purpose does it bring to hate on black people?
If you just think they're annoying as shit (I'm guessing this is your point), then why not include all races?

>> No.3346513

>>3346423
Thanks for the article, bro.
Really thoughtful for the writer to have compiled the responses into an essay.
Gonna spend the whole day reading this.

>> No.3346521

>>3346513
don't waste your time reading that, seriously. who cares about irl hatemongering and whatnot, the 3d world can suck a dick

>> No.3346525

>>3346511
Niggers, not blacks. Loud, annoying, stupid-question asking niggers. They come in all colors. Blacks are probably the least annoying of all the nigger races though. Asians are the most annoying niggers, then latins, then whites, and then blacks. Blacks know when to keep their damn mouths shut at the very least, and are always very nice when you treat them nicely. Latins will talk shit to you in spanish, asians will just talk shit to you for no reason, and whites will always treat you coldly.

>> No.3346527

>>3346525
But then again, maybe they're nice to me because I'm black myself. It's a mystery of the universe.

>> No.3346534

>>3346525
>implying that blacks can keep their mouths shut

HOLY SHIT I DID NOT JUST HEAR THAT.

You must have the most selective hearing ever. Any social situation you could imagine, and the Black group will be the fucking loud annoying one shouting in horribly mangled English about "DAT HOT BITCH" etc etc.

I can't even imagine how you could come even close to that conclusion

>> No.3346536

>>3346534
here

Pardon my slip

Not blacks, niggers. Yes, there's a difference

>> No.3346538

I was at walmart the other day and a black guy and his wife had a boombox set on their cart and were pumping some chopped and screwed stuff while they shopped. Actually, I sorta thought it was neat to be so free-spirited.

>> No.3346539
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3346539

>>3346521
>don't waste your time reading that, seriously. who cares about irl hatemongering and whatnot, the 3d world can suck a dick

Oh my god, a white teacher speaking out about how exactly black students behave?

HE MUST BE A RACIST HATEMONGER

Get lost.

>> No.3346540

>>3346534
No, really, one on one, you don't talk to a black nigger and they won't talk to you. All other races will bombard you with stupid questions and small-talk beacuse they think they need to speak all the time.

>> No.3346546

>>3346521

I bothered to read the beginning and end of the article. The essay was tl;dr and the OP is obviously samefagging with that reply. It's just a grammar school teacher, who admits that it isn't the norm and that it's not a prevailing culture, shining his own pole. It's an essay about how awesome whites are and how without them, black people wouldn't be anywhere. The ignorant fuck actually used Zimbabwe as an example, as if he didn't look like an inbred stormfag already. It's a blog, mate, what else did you expect?

>> No.3346547

>boombox
explain for non amerikkans

>> No.3346549

>>3346547
Portable stereo unit that usually accepts tapes and CDs

>> No.3346550

>My students had only the vaguest
notion of who pays for government
services. For them, it was like a magical
piggy bank that never goes empty. One
black girl was exhorting the class on
the need for more social services and I
kept trying to explain that people, real
live people, are taxed for the money to
pay for those services. “Yeah, it come
from whites,” she finally said. “They
stingy anyway.”

>“Many black people make over
$50,000 dollars a year and you would
also be taking away from your own
people,” I said.

>She had an answer to that: “Dey
half breed.” The class agreed. I let the
subject drop.

Facepalming.

>> No.3346551
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>>3346540
One on one they're fine. I'll grant you that. But because of uneven distribution (projects anyone?) this is rarely the case

No nigger is as bad as a group of niggers

>> No.3346560

>>3346551
Agreed. Nobody wants to deal with a group of nigs

>> No.3346563

>>3346539
I'm not saying the guy is racist. He's probably 110% right on all accounts. I'm just saying who the fuck cares. Black people aren't going anywhere. Black people are stupid. Mexican people are stupid. And a lot of white people are stupid too. I can't stand to be around 99% of people, regardless of their race or class. Why bother bickering about shit that doesn't matter.

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>>3346546
>I bothered to read the beginning and end of the article. The essay was tl;dr

Oh, I see. So you didn't read the whole article. I guess that doesn't make you very credible, now does it?

Opinion disregarded.

>> No.3346565

>>3346564

You linked to a blog.

THIS GAME IS EASY!

>> No.3346568

tripfag should leave already and fags shouldn't respond

>> No.3346574

>>3346563

When it all comes down to it, intolerance is only good for making people feel better about themselves without actually doing anything with their lives.

This successful troll in /jp/ just makes a whole lot more sense, eh?

>> No.3346576

>>3342605
Guy was right.

Honestly, whites are their own worst enemies. This apologetic bullshit needs to stop.

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>>3346568

>> No.3346581

I can't believe this thing is still here.

When I see another person I don't feel fear or disgust, but instead I feel a sense of camaraderie. We're all part of the same brilliant species anyways. But I also know there are certain people out there who don't feel this way.

Both modes of thinking are naive in a way, but one is obviously more productive than the other.

>> No.3346585

>sucked air through his teeth
Why would one do that??

>> No.3346586

>>3346568
>tripfags should leave already and fags shouldn't respond

BREAKING NEWS: UPDATE

btw lrn2trollfu

>> No.3346588
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3346588

>>3346576
Honestly. White guilt is a ridiculous emotion. Probably somewhere along the lines of 60% of white Americans ancestry can be traced to having come to the U.S. AFTER slavery was abolished. As for the civil rights movement; who the fuck cares about The South anyways? Worthless quadrant of the country that it is.

>> No.3346589

>>3346581
I only feel that way for the people that I know are into the same things I am. Lolicons, gamers and NEETs. Everyone else can fuck off.

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3346591

>>3346585
think about it for a moment

>> No.3346599

>>3346588

"White guilt" is a retarded bullshit talking point made up by racists a la "niggers call smart black people 'Uncle Toms'". Having an understanding of civil rights and empathy is not out of guilt, shithole. If that were true there wouldn't be any starving kids in Ethiopia.

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3346608

>>3346599
Way to completely misrepresent white guilt

It's the reason some whites feel they have to be especially nice or generous (or: bend over backwards for) black people because they're somehow "responsible" for what black people have gone through (about 6 generations back...)

>> No.3346620

>>3346591
Purposely doing it, not breathing naturally.

>> No.3346621

>>3346620
You're not getting the reference. Nevermind then.

>> No.3346626

>>3346608

Thanks for restating my point. Even in the most ass-backward yuppie communes will you rarely find someone who will bend over backwards just because of someone else's race. There are people who live to perform civil service and engage in different cultures, but you aren't going to see a fucking gringo handing out buckets of KFC to "make up for all those beatings my forefathers gave you nice people". What the hell are you smoking?

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