/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>33166957
Ringo looks a bit strange today.

In Japanese Folklore Tanuki have gigantic balls, which they can stretch to any size and shape. They can change their scrotum into fishnets, umbrellas or even mochi (pic rel).

>>33167194
It is said that, because Tanuki can make their own balls swoll like that, they can also make wallets swollen. This is why they are said to bring luck and fortune.

>>33167194
>>33167217
>or even mochi
wtf? So Mamizou is immune to Yuuka's CBT?

>Previous Threads:
Don't do that kudasai

In Japanese Mythology Kappa were said to dislike saliva, so Nitori probably doesn't like kissing. Sorry anons.

>>33167427
On the other hand, Kappa in mythology have three buttholes.
You know what to do with this information, anon!

Suika is based on (or even IS) Shuten-douji, a drunken demon from Mount Oe. According to the legend Shuten-douji, before becoming an oni, was a human boy who was trained to be a Shinto Priest. One day, during a festival, he got drunk and started scaring people while wearing an oni mask. At the end of the day he became a real Oni.

>>33168283
After this he escaped on a Mount Oe. He started kidnapping girls to rape them, suck theri blood and eat their flesh.

You heard that right, Suika is canonically a rapist!

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>Kappa in mythology have three buttholes.
What?

>>33168304
I wish Suika would rape me

>>33166957
No

>>33167217
It's the other way around. Their skin was used for wallets and the scrotum jokes seem to have come way later. There's little folklore related to their balls, seems like it was always a self-aware running gag in art

Is anything here really niche anymore? It's the same stuff getting repeated again and again

Hurr tanuki balls

Hurr kappa ass

Hurr Shuten douji

Is this news to anybody? It feels like you're just going through the paces again

>>33179742
niche isn't the right word to use there if you're talking about going through paces again.
I don't feel like tossing words into the void, so I generally find things to do if I'm not lurking.

>>33179742
The Shuten douji is stuff I'm not familiar with and not as wildly referenced as tanuki balls and kappa ass.
There's way more to Touhou than just that, but I guess I was passed out for the previous threads.

>>33179742
If you want new Touhou discussions, /jp/ ain't the place,
2chan is

This thread will die, but I was recently trying to find information on hihi'irokane. It was a mythical metal harder than diamond and could not rust. Marisa in Curiosities of Lotus Asia hoarded a bunch of scrap metal after fruitless attempts in finding it. Rinnosuke admits he has a few and agrees to repair the mini-hakkero with it in exchange for her collection, and ends up finding the sword of kusanagi in it without her knowing its value or that it's made out of hihi'irokane.
Anyways, this metal isn't from some ancient mythology but apparently stemmed from a cult from somewhere between 30's and 70's that claimed to have an ancient text called the Takenouchi Documents describing a global advanced civilization ruled by the Japanese emperor billions of years ago. I'm still in the middle of looking them up and can see they also talk about UFO's and Jesus in Japan.

>>33191850
Every thread will die. After two (three?) long threads of niche lore and references, we run out of niche lore and references. And I'm not going to post about things already covered in previous threads.

Nice work finding a piece of trivia not covered in previous threads, tho.

>>33191929
I saw this thread teetering off page 10, I knew it was bound to die after I posted, but it does not matter if I managed to say my piece and at least one other person read it.
And I'm reading those threads right now after feeling stupid that I somehow missed them. Mythology and lore interests me the most, it's why I like SMT and unsurprisingly is probably the same reason ZUN likes it. One day, when I'm finished reading everything, this thread or this thread's ancestor will live again. I feel like the comments on tanuki and kappa were cheeky jokes.
Anyways, if Runnosuke found the mirror and magatama, this could make him the rightful emperor of Japan.

I didn't read the post right before clicking and thought maybe it was a thread about notable references to 2hu outside of 2hu which I think could have been interesting

>>33192877
Did you know that Jojo vilain DIO is partially based on Sakuya and Remilia?

>>33197167
Is he?
What year did he debut?

>>33197167
>Volumes 13–28, 152 chapters. In 1989, Dio Brando

>>33197242
:^)

>>33197381
The manga, dude.
It's an old series.

>>33166994
I can't see Ringo clearly, but she's definitely there.

I haven't really been paying attention to these threads which is surprising cause I like mythology.

Has anyone bothered to archive all of the findings and such?

Kaku Seiga's design is similar to the girl in the Zuntata logo (Taito's in-house band; ZUN's nickname is a coincidence, but he was employed at Taito from 1998-2007), which is in turn based on mythological depictions of celestial beings from various cultures. E.g. Chinese mythological beings known as 飞天, often translated as 'harpies' or 'fairies', and Kinnara from Hindu/Buddhist mythology, who can pass between realms.

>>33166957
Hecate is a greek goddess depicted in triple form. Lampads are Hecate's companions, being nymphs of the underworld, and sometimes being depicted with torches that can drive people to madness.

They are represented in Touhou via Hecatia and Clownpiece.

>>33202731
You would need to look through the warsou archive. OP posted digits of two of them, but there definitely was more.

>>33197439
troled xd

>>33207844
Working at Taito also inspired a lot of UFO

>>33210848
Yeah, Taito made "Space Invaders" after all.

>>33191850
http://www.takenouchi-documents.com/
They have a site in English, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvWLonzHtH4
It's basically just Theosophy's Atlantis, root races, etc but with a Japanese focus, some Nazis had their own version. But the typical educational anime look of it makes so much more bizarre, at least it's better than the more creepy and gaudy paintings cults end to adore.
Japan was at the center of an ancient global utopia, we now live in a dystopia because the gods punished the rest of a world for disobeying Japan, and to return to this utopia Japan should become the center of a one-world government.
Jesus, Muhammad, Moses, Confucius, Buddha, and all that were all originally Japanese. And something something aliens.
And this is all related to metal used in Marisa's mini-hakkero.

>>33211180
https://youtu.be/Hd73Mu51iwQ
8:50, there it is.
These are wild

Kosuzu wondering, what sort of youkai Ebola is in Forbidden Scrollery (pic rel), actually makes some sense. In Japanese mythology there was a Smallpox Youkai – Hōsōshin, who was said to cause smallpox (hence the name).

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>>33191850
>and ends up finding the sword of kusanagi in it without her knowing its value or that it's made out of hihi'irokane.
Aside from that, I'll look into it once I get the time since it sounds interesting.

>>33210823
You only managed to confuse me more than troll

Do doujins add to the lore?

>>33191850
Man, Japanese cults are weird.

>>33237444
>Do doujins add to the lore?
Not really? They give a different take since it's up to the author to interpret what is already there. I haven't found everything, but it varies person to person. It all comes down to everyone having a personal interpretation of Gensokyo, led by what is commonly acceptable or accepted by the fanbase.

>>33237444
One example of non-canon having an effect would be Cirno on the subject of her wings.

>>33237444
>>33238062
In a sense, I'd say they do, on the grounds that actual folklore has far more in common with collective fanon than with the canon imposed upon high to which we usually apply the term "lore".

>>33238424
Every fan can add to the lore… except moonie-lovers. Any doujin that shows lunarians in a positive light is not lore-friendly by default.

>>33238070
>One example of non-canon having an effect would be Cirno on the subject of her wings.
Explain.

>>33216827
If memes like the seal can end up in Gensokyo, then maybe one day Ebola-chan will make her debut.

>>33192185
>it's why I like SMT and unsurprisingly is probably the same reason ZUN likes it.
ZUN like SMT too? I bet he is actually might be chaofag

>>33241067
The games are basically /2hu/ - SMT/Jojo References

>>33240321
>Explain.
Not >>33238070, but ZUN started drawing Cirno's wings as detached ice shards instead of pointy fairy wings. Look at her appearance throughout various games. https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Cirno

On the subject of Cirno, some characters mentioned that her tan wasn't just a tan and was a sign of something happening, but it was never explained what: https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Who's_Who_of_Humans_%26_Youkai_in_Gensokyo/Tanned_Cirno
According to that article, tanned Cirno is a parody of tanned Sakura in MvC, who herself is a parody of dark Ryu. Thus the thing that's happening to Cirno was likely her becoming corrupted by power/losing her fairyity to madness. https://streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki/Satsui_no_Hado
Incidentally, it doesn't mention it, but it's likely her sunflower is a reference to evil Ryu directly, see image.

>>33243718
>wasn't just a tan and was a sign of something happening
tan = corruption
https://mangadex.org/chapter/698489/1

>>33241275
How boring.

>>33241275
>The games are basically /2hu/ - SMT/Jojo References
are they now.
I never played through SMT, but I might reconsider.

>>33241067
>I bet he is actually might be chaofag
A thing that annoys me about SMT is how Oni are always portrayed as being chaos-aligned when they're actually lawful torturers of sinners in hell.

>>33263225
Don't whitewash the part where they kidnap and eat people.

>>33263338
Lawful doesn't mean that they're morally good. The SMT setting repeatedly brings this up. Overall they seem subservient to the judges of hell who probably tolerate their terror-mongering on Earth so that humans retain a fear of judgement in the afterlife.

Also, despite their actions against humanity they do have a moral code and claim to despise humans being for being liars and tricksters in contrast to their own brutal honesty and upfrontness.

>>33263609
>upfrontness
What if they purposefully avoid questions

>>33237444
If it's not made by ZUN then no they are not, unless they are related to folklore.

Alice's doll Hourai is the Japanese name for Mount Penglai, a winterless mountain island in Chinese legend existing far off into the east, populated by the eight xian, with fruit that grant immortality.
I feel like most people interested in mythology might have already known this. I just want to mention that according to legend Chinese explorer, Xu Fu, claimed that he found the island but told Emperor Qin he needed reinforcements, and asking for 6000 virgin girls and boys in particular.
He sailed off and never came back.

Lewis Carroll was a pedophile. This probably explains why Alice is such a fucking weirdo and why nobody likes her.

>>33288933
I don't know who that dude is quoting but I thought Lewis Carroll was respected among his peers. The girls' families still requested the photos burned after his death

>>33288933
It can easily be interpreted that way with our modern views but honestly I don't think he actually was, he was just slightly autistic man with a few strange hobbies and a troubled love life.

>>33288933
As someone who has looked into this

Calling Carroll a pedophile for the naked kid paintings he had would be like calling a modern day old lady with naked cherub paintings in her house a pedophile. TECHNICALLY those look like naked babies but the painting is meant to represent purity instead of lewdness. Many contemporaries among his time had similar paintings, and nobody from back then would've found them out of the ordinary.

Someone who has lived with very young children will know that they're naked a large amount of the time. Paintings back then often tried to reflect that period of youthful innocence.

This shit is basically a clickbait tier rumor, it sounds scandalous for the creator of alice in wonderland to be a pedo so that's what people say. But if you look into this shit you'll find it was a norm to have paintings like that and saying they were lewd back then would be seen as absurd and just indicative of your own issues.

>>33297779
>saying they were lewd back then would be seen as absurd
An exaggeration

>>33297779
I didn't even know that was the story.
Didn't those painting get famous?

>>33303395
>Didn't those painting get famous?
Didn't those paintings get famous years later? Nobody talks about Carroll as much, let alone what you mentioned.

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>>33166957

saving /jp/

>>33240302
>Join NASA
I really need to get around to writing that fucking pasta.

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>>33247900
Ironically, it was just a tan in the case being parodied.

>>33167427
Kappas were also said to hate metal and the sound of firearms, so mythologically accurate Kappas wouldn't be engineers.

Dogu when?

>>33237772
Meh, it was classic "muh we wuz advanced kingdom and shiet". Scientology still has the most unique cult lore of all time

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>>33237772
Cults don't really need to make sense.

>>33347519
This image is now impossible as it seems.
It's either this image or another one where she builds a thruster (rocket).

>>33372609
>this one
No, nevermind. It reminds me of something else.

>>33167194
I forgot you were talking about folklore for a second.

>>33167194
>They can change their scrotum into fishnets, umbrellas or even moch
trufax, everything in this image is a Tanuki's scrotum.

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>>33166957
Touhou-chan looks very cute here.

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>>33183854
Where then
There's shitposting everywhere, no matter where you look.

>>33419281
Truth

Nice, I will contribute!

>>33167574
Please name their locations kudasai

Sekibanki is not actually a Rokurokubi, but a Nukekubi – chinese and japanese monster, who had detachable head (unlike rokurokubi, who had long necks), and wore scarfs to hide lines between their heads and necks.

>>33437808
Also in the mythos Nukekubi (as well as rokurokubi) were lived like normal humans, and their their youkai powers activated only during their sleep. When they were asleep their heads would go on a hunt to eat some bugs and drink human blood (yes, nukekubi were japanese vampires).

>>33437925
>nukekubi were japanese vampires
This is a first, but aren't there others that drink blood or is it exclusive to the nukekubi?

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>>33444380
There were others, nukekubi are one of a couple of kinds of youkai that can be called 'japanese vampires'.

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Anyone can recommend me manga adaptations/spinoffs that would help me with getting as much references as possible?

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>>33468514
What do you mean by references?
Do you mean like the Kasen Manga continuing after WaHH?

>>33429596
Why would you want to know that

>>33207844
That's interesting.

Patchy has a spellcard ‘Emerald Megalith’ which is almost certainly a reference to the emerald tablet - an (possible metaphorical?) ancient slab famous among alchemists for containing many of alchemy’s secrets. Didn’t know about this one til real recently.

>>33207844
>he was employed at Taito from 1998-2007
Never heard that before, that’s pretty big. Do we know what role(s) he had there and which games he worked on?

>>33489489
Rakugaki Oukoku for one, which is why Reimu (Hakurei no miko) makes an appearance in it.
He recently drew a new Reimu for the Rakugaki Kingdom mobile game which was distributed as a preregistration tokuten.
https://twitter.com/rakukin_pr/status/1253157699165933568

Spoonfed me some lore about the Tsukumos. I would like to know about them more.

>>33489489
>a reference to the emerald tablet
I think I saw that before somewhere but I didn't know the significance. That's interesting.

>>33490757
I don't think there's much to know about.
I never looked into those two either.
IIRC, something about an instrument developing its own soul after 100 years.

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>>33490757
They're probably based on the biwa and koto tsukumogamis depicted in the Hyakkiyakou Emaki.
'Benben' is the sound a biwa makes when it's strummed. Yatsuhashi was a famous musician.
Benben's spellcards reference the Heike Monogatari (e.g. Vengeful Spirit "Hoichi the Earless") which you might be familiar with if you've ever seen Kwaidan. Heike Monogatari (which tells of the history of the Heike clan) was passed down and performed by biwa houshi who were blind biwa-playing minstrels who would perform for money.

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>>33297048
>he was just slightly autistic man with a few strange hobbies
I feel like that's a more accurate description of Henry Darger.

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>>33509444
What about the number 99? what does that refer to?

>>33524172
Other than being their last name?

>>33524664
so it just is?

>>33518306
I have big respect for Darger. He would've probably liked Touhou in another life.
Or maybe he reincarnated into a Japanese man in the 70's.

>>33525021
It's an alternate way of writing the tsukumo part of tsukumogami, nothing deeper than that. There's a blurb about why in the Wikipedia article for tsukumogami https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsukumogami

Didn't realize it'd be on the English page too

>>33515196
Translation, please?

>>33533398
The pleasure of cumming inside an little girl.

>>33524172
>What about the number 99
>>33525773
>an alternate way of writing the tsukumo part of tsukumogami
I'm waiting for there to be a thread where character names are just broken down into numbers.

>>33540663
>I'm waiting for there to be a thread where character names are just broken down into numbers.
I swear there was something like that already. not sure if it was in shrinemaiden or another Touhou forum

>>33540663
The 22 series, staring 89006

>>33288933
So many Alices, but so little time!

>>33552297
more like people become Alice in nature, but there are several Alices to choose from

>>33552297
Alices for everyone!

>>33556781
Too much Alice

>>33561006
No such thing.

>>33552297
Let's see, we got:
- Original Alice
- Touhou Alice
- SMT/Persona Alice
- American McGee’s Alice
Any other Alices I should know about?

>>33562149
>SMT/Persona Alice
isn't she just based off of the darker Alice lore

>>33562158
It's still a different version of Alice.

>>33562158
She was meant to just be a standard spooky ghost girl but the Wonderland connection was made later. I think ZUN referenced her too in the PC98 games.

>>33571867
>I think ZUN referenced her too in the PC98 games.
The witch of death that drags you into the depths of hell.

ZUN once mention that Mamizou's design were highly based on his distant aunt, especially the glasses and the tail.

>>33581625
>ZUN once mention that Mamizou's design were highly based on his distant aunt
I don't know what to say about that, but that's surprising if true.

>>33288933
If you are interested in to go into autistic detail about Lewis' pedo escapades i suggest you check on /vrpg/ for Black Souls threads.

I was going through random threads in the archives like I the bored autist I am, and found something I thought deserved to be posted here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vjc_lfbVkA

Anon, in ancient Chinese magic and philosphy, particularly in wuxing (lit. "five elements"), the color associated with the element of earth is yellow. Since Japan literally based their entire culture off of China, they imported wuxing as well (where it's known as "gogyou"). The symbol in the middle of the elements, a pentagram, was interpreted in Japan as a seiman (a pentagram used in Onmyodo magic and Shinto mysticism). The Shinto text "Kiki" uses metaphors based on wuxing and explains genealogies of gods through wuxing as well. This is why "The Ground's Color is Yellow" is the title for the song associated with the Hakurei shrine, a Shinto shrine currently owned by shrine maiden Hakurei Reimu.

Also the first setence of the classic Chinese poem "Thousand Character Classic" is literally "The sky is black, the earth is yellow; space and time are vast and limitless". The legendary Japanese scholar Wani Kishi is said to have translated the "Thousand Character Classic" from Chinese into Japanese. The only sources of Wani's life are the Kojiki and Nihon Shoki, the two foundational Shinto texts. In fact, the Kojiki mentions the classic by name. So it's no wonder that that title was chosen for the music track. Oh and the element of earth (symbolized by yellow), according to wuxing, has a perfect balance of ying and yang. Reimu has the Hakurei Ying Yang Orb. In AoCF, the remix has "~ Primrose" attached to the end. Makes sense considering the title of the game, but it more has to do with the fact that primroses are yellow. Like the earth and like Reimu's ascot. What's more is that primroses are considered spring plants in Japanese. AoCF takes place in the spring before HSiFS and Reimu's main season associated with her in that game is, well, spring. So there you are anon.

>>33352330
>Meh, it was classic "muh we wuz advanced kingdom and shiet".
Obligatory outsider meme aside, absolutely. From some Theosophists to some Nazis and Neo-Nazis themselves to some 60's-80's Afrocentric cults, it's just another weirdo belief that x people is actually descendant of some advanced aliens, everyone wants a piece of that narcissistic pie.
>Scientology still has the most unique cult lore of all time
I both agree and disagree. Maybe it's because people almost never mention anything beyond Xenu and celebrities, but there's something quite boring about Scientology to me, maybe because it really is unique, Hubbard's own scams and Thelema with a pseudo-scientific coat, while almost every other cult can generically fit in certain bigger movements and a long list of things it's ripping off. Less people mention the crazier shit like the original OT8 and Hubbard claiming he would reincarnate as the Antichrist, or him sailing around the world and trying to find any government that would accept his teachings before being kicked.

I've been resisting from posting this for weeks since it's becoming off-topic, but on the topic of Japanese cults: Something I never seen mentioned in English is the inspiration for the last SZS opening reference a Japanese cult from the 60's and 70's that got into a scandal over, from what I can understand, the higher members believing they got a signal from UFO's and would be whisked away anytime now(?). They changed some more obvious lyrics over fear that surviving members would cause commotion. They still have a monument in Hokkaido they built, interpreting Ainu legend to have aliens.
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/宇宙友好協会
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/林檎もぎれビーム!

>>33600470
Reads like a schizo rant

>>33601249
That's everything related to religion and occultism.

>>33601249
I'm pretty sure anything you can write of similar length wouldn't be better.

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>>33581625
>and the tail

>>33616584
>>and the tail
you lost me

Thoughts on what the next game will be about?
There's not much to go on so any guess is good.

>>33627789
The Jews!!!

>>33627830
begone

>>33627789
>Black water gushed out onto the surface. The water released an odd odour, and was hard to get off once stuck to one's body. It was not something that you could use as your everyday water.

>Some saw the gushing water as misfortune, some as good fortune; some saw it as holy, while others as evil; some saw it as a natural disaster, some saw it as a business opportunity, various theories were tossed around. Some even started a festival and made a fuss.

>But not long after, an event occurred that put a horrific damper on their buoyant moods. From the springs that they drank from, the beautiful clear streams, the hot springs at rest spots... from every location it possibly could, the black water began to gush out.

>>33630315
Given what happened with oil last year, it would make sense. that would also imply fracking becomes commonplace in Gensokyo as a new resource is discovered.

thinking
thinking

Women in Heian period had painted brows and blackened teeth, so historically accurate Mokou and Kaguya would look like pic rel (at least during Mokou's youth).

>>33638997
The eyebrows are cute, at least when anime and manga artists try to replicate it. The teeth, not so much, but I'll commend anyone who tries.

>>33639532
What's wrong with the teeth? Are you from a country obsessed with pure white, perfectly straight teeth?

Nice thread, unfortunately my filters catch the 'holo' in 'mythology' and filter it...
Anyone know how I can fix it?

>>33641107
>Anyone know how I can fix it?
No idea. Guess I'll have to name the thread differently next time.

>>33641107
change it to uppercase or just use "hololive" instead

>>33640720
>Are you from a country obsessed with pure white, perfectly straight teeth?
My teeth are yellow, hurting, and I haven't brushed them in a week since I didn't have toothpaste and I didn't want to leave my room and see my family in order to get some.
Personally I have no problem with the teeth, but whenever I've seen the Heian era brought up, people always complain about it so I feel it would not catch on. On a related note, Aztec noblewomen used to darken their teeth as well, though their skin was dyed yellow.

>>33638997
Painting teeth black isn't a native japanese custom, it was imported from europe.

>>33642779
Do you know what the Heian period is?

>>33642903
I had a vague idea, but googling the actual dates, wow that's way before european contact.
huh, guess you learn something every day.

>>33638997
>Women in Heian period had painted brows and blackened teeth,
that's really fucking weird, but I guess I can't complain.

SoPM has an article written by Aya in 1983 (pic related), about an incident where Kisume crawled out of a well and started chucking human remains at some playing children. Yukari immediately appeared and pulled a Russian-style cover story, even denying that the bones were human remains at all, and later had the well filled with dirt. Considering how Yukari has acted at other occasions (like in WaHH, when she was telling Kasen about the purpose of Zashiki-warashi) it seems that she maintains the balance of Gensokyo by telling lies, much like a benevolent dictator. The last thing she wants the humans of Gensokyo to realize is just how she keeps all the youkai fed, and what her grand goal is.

>>33655581
>The last thing she wants the humans of Gensokyo to realize is just how she keeps all the youkai fed, and what her grand goal is.
They know youkai are fed by ‘spirited away’ humans from outside, they just might not know she is responsible.

>and what her grand goal is.
I’m a tard but from what I gathered the subtext of that bit from WaHH was that she wants the whole world to function like Gensokyo does, is that right?

>>33655728
>she wants the whole world to function like Gensokyo does, is that right?
Well, maybe not the whole world, but she's definitely trying to expand Gensokyo's borders.

>>33655581
>it seems that she maintains the balance of Gensokyo by telling lies, much like a benevolent dictator
She wears Yin-Yang symbols on her clothing. The perfect Taoist ruler is an invisible one, who works tirelessly behind the scenes but allows their subjects to feel like they accomplished everything by themselves.

Her meeting with Miko in AoCF is hilarious. Miko has heard of Yukari by reputation, and seems mildly awed by her. But when Yukari doesn't show her the same respect, she flies into a rage and Byakuren of all people has to step in to defuse things. Miko normally *never* gets angry, but she can't stand being treated as one of the sheeple.

>>33655581
>Kisume crawled out of a well and started chucking human remains at some playing children
Kisume was hardcore in the 80s, so much for Cutesokyo.

>>33655581
>Yukari immediately appeared and pulled a Russian-style cover story
>A Russian-style cover story
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>She maintains the balance of Gensokyo by telling lies
That isn't new

>>33661821
>A Russian-style cover story
Think about Chernobyl. The great disaster occured, but the goverment was assuring people, that eveything is okay, or that it's all according to the plan. This is what Yukari is doing by showing up and assuring that everything is ok, and that the bones aren't even real.

In Wily Beast if you wondered why the fuck the primate spirit garden(?) looked like a keyhole, it's because Japan has ancient burial mounds shaped like that. Among other things there probably were a lot of haniwa buried in there.

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>>33562149
Vampire Alice!!!

>>33663933
>Vampire Alice
?

>>33655581
>Kisume crawled out of a well and started chucking human remains at some playing children
Kisume is such a fucking cunt. She's probably the rudest, most aggressive youkai in Gensokyo, bar none. Everyone shits on Seija for being a manipulative dick to people, but Kisume does this and beheads random people for shits and giggles.

>>33666776
it was just a prank bro

Here's some general information about the Ministry of Right and Wrong
>founded by the Juuou, the Ten Kings, AKA the Ten Judges of Hell, according to Perfect Memento in Strict Sense
>in order to keep up with the rising number of souls to be judged, the old system of spiritual transmigration was changed to the current system (where a lesser yama reads out your sins in court, beats the shit out of you, and then delivers your sentence without any chance for defendant testimony)
>additionally, more judges were created from the jizo population to reduce the workload on the Ten Kings
>however, due to the rising human population, the Ministry was created as the number of judges could no longer keep up
And the actual organization itself is composed of
>10 Yama (most likely the Ten Kings)
>the lesser judges and kishin chiefs
>the shinigami working under the lesser judges and lesser oni under the kishin
And because Hecatia is one of the leaders of the organization according to Eiki in VFiS, wouldn't that imply she is one of the Ten Kings? After all, the yama at the top of the ministry are likely the original ten judges of the dead, unless they happened to somehow retire or get booted from the position via corporate takeover or something, I dunno.

Something else that's interesting is that the Ministry does not involve the/an Excuse Jizou at all, too, considering there is no one defending the souls on trial at any level in the Ministry's court system. Additionally, it seems the Ministry is based more on non-Japanese Buddhism considering Japan invokes 13 Kings, rather than 10 (http://www.onmarkproductions.com/html/sai-no-kawara.html#10kings))

Additionally, there are six realms the yama can judge a soul to be reincarnated to, all of which are part of the stages of suffering.
>Hell (the billions of countless realms of suffering)
>Hungry Ghosts (Netherworld)
>Animal (Animal Realm)
>Human (as in you become a human again)
>Heaven (the Celestial Realm, which may is likely to share ties to the Lunar Capital, as the Dragon Palace IS the Lunar Capital itself)

I don't think all of this is niche, but I think it's good to have all of it linked together in such a way that's more convenient.

>>33666776
Yes but unlike Seija, Kisume is cute. That makes it okay. Charming, even.

>>33667217
You only listed five realms.

>>33667217
Going further, the Ten Kings are as follow
>King Shinkou the Immovable (AKA Qin Guang Wang and the leader of the nine other Kings)
>King Shoukou the Enlightened One
>King Soutei the Wisest
>King Fukan of Virtuous Conduct
>King Enma the Merciful Savior
>King Henjyou of the Future
>King Taizan of Medicine and Healing
>King Byoudou of Mercy and Compassion
>King Toshi of Strength and Wisdom
>King Gotoutenrin of Limitless Light and Life
Originally, each king would set before the soul a trial and if they could pass just one, they would be guaranteed a good next life.

Just wondering, but is there any more information on the Jade Emperor in Touhou? I'd imagine he'd be one of the fuckers in the Lunar Capital, considering all the big shots and heavenly motherfuckers are strongly associated with the Lunarians.

>>33667347
Sixth realm is Asura (aka the land where the oni come from aka where Shinmyoumaru's castle was, implying Seija was also either from the Asura realm or traveled there by herself).

>>33667217
Dunno it sounded more like Hecatia was give veneraly position because of her power. She outside of system but agreed to allied with them.

>>33668167
So really, she's just an outsider trying to take advantage of the weakness of the ministry to carve out her own little realm among the otherworlds and to Hell with the rest of Hell.

>>33666824
now i want a drawing of kisume as filthy frank

>>33667306
I disagree

>>33656298
>so much for Cutesokyo
Really, no one even told me about man-eating youkai at first.
It's an enticing world but I would die in an instance.

>>33678278
ZUN was asked once about which Touhou characters he'd want to hang out with. He basically answered that youkai are unpredictable, especially when interacting with someone like him who isn't protected by Gensokyo's rules, so Reimu and Marisa are the only choices where he could guarantee his safety.

>>33680439
Are Akyuu and Kosuzu really that dangerous?

>>33680470
Kosuzu willingly became a youkai and wanted to upset the rules of Gensokyo

>>33680594
She got better.

>>33680610
She should have gotten her cunny split in two

>>33680694
By me.

>>33680439
>Reimu
>he could guarantee his safety.

>>33680859
Reimu "I don't particularly mind needless killing" Hakurei is the safest person in Gensokyo to not be around.

>>33680439
Byakuren would be the nicest Youkai to be around Reimu not so sure she seems like a bit of an asshole.

>>33681006
>a bit

>>33680940
Even if ZUN was trying to turn himself into a beer youkai, he's an outsider so Reimu wouldn't care.

>>33680470
>Are Akyuu and Kosuzu really that dangerous?
Ask yourself not whether they'd attack ZUN, but whether they could stop someone else from attacking him.

>>33681006
>Byakuren would be the nicest Youkai to be around
Byakuren isn't likely to hurt ZUN herself, but she might leave him in a room full of man-eating youkai without thinking about it.

>>33680439
I figure Sanae and Kanako would be nice and protective. Not sure about Suwako, kinda doubt it.

Hm...I figure Kasen would be fine to hang out with too.

Both these examples I’m disregarding the trek to and from their homes.

>>33681308
Byakuren shouldn't be that incompetent then

>>33680439
>where he could guarantee his safety.
ZUN doesn't need to be kept safe, he's an author. The TOuhou characters are like his children, and the children wouldn't harm their father!

>>33680439
>Reimu and Marisa are the only choices where he could guarantee his safety.
outsiders aren't protected by Reimu and Marisa has zero obligation to help you.

>>33686814
But it's canon that if an outsider does somehow make their way to the Hakurei Shrine, she'll help guide them back out to the Outside World.

>>33680439
>>33686814
How would youkai react to an outsider exterminating them for real?

>>33687014
Shock and outrage because modern humans probably have far less spiritual power than Gensokyo humans. Though, ESP and other bullshit probably make up for that.

Touhou is interesting because all the witches are "evil" from a point of view rather than just cute girls with magic powers. Every one of them associates with evil spirits or demons or has done something awful in the past to gain their powers. There's no "good" magic or "white" magic or anything.

>>33689397
It's never explicitly stated, but doesn't Reimu practice some form of onmyo through the exorcism rites and practices of the Hakurei temple?

>>33689449
She practices whatever generic anime shrine maidens practice when they fight youkai, which is generally similar to how onmyouji are portrayed. I don't know what her needles have to do with anything, but it's probably similar to hama-ya. Or at least I assume. If anyone knows about her needles, this would be a good thread to post about them.

There's no english page about hama-ya, but I'm referring to how miko/anime miko shoot arrows at things sometimes. These would be the closest relevant pages. The first one has a link to the Japanese page about the arrows.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_yumi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azusa_Yumi

>>33668690
Well if I not mistaken it's more like she was native lord of the realm that is Hell now. Ministry just struck a deal with her about incorporation because it would be troublesome for both parties to fight of. I certain that it is true but don't know about actual motivation

>>33486817
We're taking our shirikodama back!

>>33556781
Fractalice.

>>33691482
>She practices whatever generic anime shrine maidens practice when they fight youkai, which is generally similar to how onmyouji are portrayed.
IIRC, onmyoudo was basically merged into Buddhism/Shintoism so for all intents and purposes whatever shit Reimu and Sanae pull, they're bound to make use of it even if it isn't necessarily their intention just because it's so thoroughly meshed into the practices and beliefs of those religions in Japan.
>From around the 9th century during the Heian period, Onmyōdō influenced the local folk religions that later in the early 19th century would be named Shinto and Goryō worship (御霊信仰) in Japan, developing into a system unique to Japan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onmy%C5%8Dd%C5%8D))
I'd cite the actual sources but I'm EOP.

>>33687010
Reimu has no obligation to protect you. The only help you will receive from her is a trip back to the outside world.

>>33698285
this 50 yen piece says otherwise

>>33699030
>50 yen piece
She probably doesn't even know what a gun is. The piece won't be very effective.

>>33703740
>She probably doesn't even know what a gun is.
Guns have been around Japan ever since the Portuguese introduced them to the region hundreds of years ago. Plus, kappa, rabbits, and Sumireko carry heat.

>>33630461
Moriya Shrine Conspiracy. Kanakp is frakking now.

>>33703911
We had a Nuclear Bird Girl, now we're gonna have a Petrol Dinosaur Girl.

>>33709630
>dino
inb4 war

>>33626418
The implication here is that the distant aunt had a tail

>>33240302
based, fuck the lunarians

>>33687014
i imagine they would be scared shitless, we are the big monsters to them despite all their flexing

>>33689397
what did marisa do?

>>33699030
just give her a donation and she will probably do whatever you want or she might kill you after...
50/50

>>33718991
Was a servant of Mima, an evil spirit, was first met somewhere around makai, steals everything including her spells, and gets high on mushrooms all day.

>>33718991
Current-canon Marisa hasnt done too much except casual theft, but she does consort with man eating demons on a near daily basis.

Plus, you know, witchcraft.

>>33719383
isn't that PC98 lore?
>>33719491
>she does consort with man eating demons on a near daily basis.
i mean who doesn't?

>>33719774
>isn't that PC98 lore?
So what if it is? I'm talking about touhou, not whatever specific subset of touhou you're imagining.

>>33719856
yeah but what did windows Marisa did?
apart from the whole demon thing

>>33720373
She's heavily hinted to want to be a Jinyou since long ago.
If you don't remember what that is, it's what Fortune Teller is. Trying to do one of the greatest sins in Gensokyo is pretty something.

>>33720373
>steals everything including her spells, and gets high on mushrooms all day.
Doesn't matter for my statement though unless you're going to say the pc98 games don't exist at all anymore. She also willingly uses magic learned from evil sources such as Patchouli's library.

>>33720489
>She's heavily hinted to want to be a Jinyou since long ago.
i wonder if Reimu is going to pull the trigger at her
>steals everything including her spells, and gets high on mushrooms all day.
this is not that bad
>She also willingly uses magic learned from evil sources such as Patchouli's library.
this may be bad

>>33720373
>>yeah but what did windows Marisa did?
Windows Marisa is PC-98 Marisa.
They're the same person. The same applies to Reimu.

>>33719491
>Plus, you know, witchcraft
Why would witchcraft be considered something bad? Japan literaly had magicians as high-ranking officials (Onmyōji).

Magic is considered evil only in abrahamic religions (and even not in all of them, eg. Hasidic Jews practice Kabbalah, and there are literal magical rituals descibed in Talmud).

>>33718991
release a literal evil dragon and let it go free because it promised her a present

>>33723751
really? i thought that wasn't the case

>>33724968
the dragon end up not doing anything and fulfilling his end of the bargain

>>33724849
>Magic is considered evil only in abrahamic religions
Not even remotely true. You also aren't distinguishing between witchcraft, divination, and holy rituals, and any other sort of thing. Just trying to lump them under one generic magic where exorcising something is as much magic as cursing something.

>>33600834
I have seen pictures and videos of that supposed "temple" of theirs. I found it funny how in reality it was just a mound with a set of stairs leading up to a wall with nothing behind it.

Rumba > Ringo > Bure

>>33725081
We the readers never see him again but I was under the impression Marisa got a reward off screen. Not like we can say absolutely one way or the other. Just like we cant say one way or the other wether the dragon ended up doing bad things or not.

>>33731723
he gives her a dragon claw and kosuzu a dragon print scroll
he doesn't deny being evil though, but says that since he's not a full dragon yet he can't do anything, so let's meet again in a hundred years
considering most people in gensokyo will still be there in a hundred years, that fucker might do some bad shit that they'll have to deal with

>>33732009
Ohh that’s right. Been too long since I read FS.

>>33732009
what's the worse it could happen?

>>33736186
Doesn't Gensokyo not exist anymore in Maribel's time?

>>33175461
Same here

>>33490729
Said game is now colabing with Hololive. Hololive also had official art of them drawn by ZUN so I guess we can now add Taito to the list of things Hololive has connected with (ironically tying it back to ZUN).

>>33737495
>Hololive also had official art of them drawn by ZUN
Was it really drawn by ZUN himself? I thought it was just in his style but by someone else.

>>33724968
>>33732009
What chapter is this?

>>33741855
Forbidden Scrollery, ch9

up

So much Touhou!

>>33737495
this? that's just art in ZUN's style, and probably done because beatMARIO is a massive holofag

>>33749687
>loosely apply bucaneer outfit to anime girl template
is this what passes for "design" nowadays, i dont know shit about hololaiv but i know it has to be trash just from that gacha tier look

>>33750102
Yeah we sure have degenerated from the apply a maid outfit to anime girl template days.

>>33750281
i never liked generic maids either
your taste is objectively shit and inferior, suck it jabroni

>>33751267
What sort of character design DO you like?

>>33751363
The sort of design that mirrors the personality, especially that which gives subtle exposition.

Of course what i truly consider good character design goes beyond clothing.

>>33751553
I don't care for Hololive either, but if you don't know shit about it, then you can't critically assess its character design on anything but a visual level.

What's an example of a character you think is designed well?

>>33751598
I googled hololive and its a bunch of 3dpd trash with the chinks and corporations behind it
no wonder i saw so much hate for it, time to filter those threads

>>33749687
Imagining just how much of a secondary I'd have to be to think that ZUN drew this.

>>33737495
>Hololive also had official art of them drawn by ZUN
Stop talking out of your ass holofaggot.

>>33719491
>>33724849
>>33725511
What sort of thing is considered evil witchcraft depends on the setting, and Touhou does not treat Marisa's magic as evil witchcraft.

>>33751553
>The sort of design that mirrors the personality
Oh you mean when angry girls have red hair and slutty girls have pink hair and smart and quiet girls have blue hair.

>>33752956
Was she not kicked out of her home and thrown out of the village most likely for her magic practice in windows canon? Ignoring she was a villain/rival in pc98. After all the fortune teller was looked down upon for using magic in his fortune telling as well, and the ultimate goal of witches is to become an immortal youkai.

>>33751553
>The sort of design that mirrors the personality, especially that which gives subtle exposition.
That kind of shit isn't possible anymore.
Everything needs to be a self insert isekai that's #relatable to the masses.

>>33753427
>>>/a/

>>33753423
>Was she not kicked out of her home and thrown out of the village most likely for her magic practice in windows canon?
Where'd you get this from? She's certainly allowed in the village, and the village accepts her help in solving incidents.

>the ultimate goal of witches is to become an immortal youkai.
I thought Marisa remained mortal by choice. I thought that was what "Ordinary Magician" meant. Also, she justifies her theft from youkai by saying that it's only borrowing because they'll be able to take their stuff back when she dies, which implies that she intends to remain mortal.

>>33751856
An example of character design you like, please.

>>33753657
PMiSS says she doesn't go to the village much and cut off relations with her family.

>I thought Marisa remained mortal by choice.
No, she's definitely shown to be interested in immortality. In one of the earlier games, it was said she made an immorality elixir that was too big for her to swallow.

>>33694994
EOP?

>>33756037
Ignore it.

>>33756037
English-Only Peasant

>>33720781
>evil sources such as Patchouli's library
Right, because every book in there is full of the foulest of black sorceries. A library can stock both the Necronomicon and Mother Goose. I think you're reaching here.

>>33756732
Patchouli is a witch who is friends with a devil and has a demon assistant, she is evil and by extension anything associated with her is evil.

>>33756987
>a witch who is friends with a devil and has a demon assistant
>she is evil
You sound like a seething christfag

>>33757078
You sound like a youkai sympathizer.

>>33757113
>You sound like a youkai
Correct

>>33757078
You're arguing something different. I don't think either of you are on the same page outside of the youkai bit.

>>33764392
33756987 is clearly arguing in bad faith at this point. He's applying the law of contagion to a debate about Marisa's morality without presenting any evidence that the moral metaphysics of the setting work that way.

>>33749687
Yeah this. Kinda thought it actually was by ZUN...guess I was wrong then.

>>33736186
>what's the worse it could happen
Meet me after class, young woman.

>>33533398
>Whoooooa!!!! Children are sexy!!!!!! Children's tummies and chests!!!!!! They're sexy... [crying emoji 3x]

So what exactly are the Yaoyorozu-no-Kami? I know what the phrase means (literally "Eight Million Gods", figuratively "Oodles and Oodles of Gods") but the term seems to have a specific meaning in the context of Touhou. Gods like Kanako are apparently not one of the Eight Million. Why is that?

>>33749687
Disgusting. More like beatJUDAS

>>33771125
if only killing such problematic people are allowed
or am i taking it too far with advising murder on them?

>>33770828
I don't remember all of it, but I don't think Kanako falls into that category

>>33767967
nah, you can tell because the eyes are proportional and correctly placed. Even now ZUN can't do that, he always places one eye right at the edge of the face one makes the other one way bigger
it isn't the way he'd colour it either

>>33776144
hes gotten better

>>33756987
not all youkai are evil anon, some of them let you live for a while before eating you

>>33770828
Is Kanako actually native to Japan? I couldve sworn I remember it being mentioned her original temple was on the continent.

>>33787772
>>33770828
There are different groups of Japanese gods besides the 8 million, but I think it's like >>33787772 says and Kanako is a foreign invader god. I'm not sure about the continent though, I think it's more like the gods of proto-Japan (Kanako)vs the other gods of the native island cultures(Suwako). Which at some point would have had her come from the continent but still. I can't even find the quote about her not being one of the myriad gods. You should look up about the war over Sanae's shrine for info most likely.

>>33771963
>or am i taking it too far with advising murder on them?
No it's alright. Never question the /jp/ mafia.

live!

>>33788200
>You should look up about the war over Sanae's shrine for info most likely.
Kanako took over after just rusting swords.
Suwako didn't stand a chance.

>>33807923
Well the people basically told Kanako to fuck off, so it didn't matter in the end

>>33482157
I reckon he means manga that gets into Japanese/eastern Asian mythology.

>>33808209
Yet she's still there and practically runs things.
So much for telling her to go away.

https://files.catbox.moe/4kr7mn.zip
For whatever references of the first 5 games the translators found. Feel free to point out any inconsistencies/missing references.

>>33824455
Wait, I forgot. And why is this spam?
catbox.
moe/c/0sm3th

>>33823022
She can only run things because of Suwako though, she's just a figurehead. Kanako is like Suwako's Ran

>>33824556
What is it?

>>33826212
Oh yeah, it went with the old post.
The commentaries, references and tidbits the translators of the first 5 games found on them. List is incomplete, feel free to point it out, and since it's supposed to be an extra for the translation, it's detailed as if you're new to either touhou or any of its references.

>>33824455
What is that

>EosD
Vlad Tepes III Draculesti/Count Dracula - Responsible for turning the Scarlet sisters into vampire.

>PCB
Saigyou Houshi/Satou Norikiyo (西行法師/佐藤義清) - Yuyuko's father, also the famous poet who died and became the embodiment of Saigyou Ayakashi Tree.

>IaMP
Yamata no Orochi/Ibuki Daimyoujin (八岐大蛇/伊吹大明神) - Suika's father. Suggest her in a dream to find the other Oni so she wouldn't be lonely.

>IN
Sanuki no Miyatsuko (讃岐造) and Fujiwara no Fuhito (藤原不比等) - Kaguya's adoptive father and Mokou's father. The former persuaded Kaguya to stay at Earth (only to run away from the Lunarians before he managed to reunite with Kaguya) while the latter possessed Sanuki no Miyatsuko to enact revenge on him and Kaguya.

>PoFV
Enmaten (焔魔天) - The Ruler of Higan and Chief Judge of Hell. Responsible for creating Shikieiki from Jizou statue and employed Komachi under her.

>MoF
Takeminakata/Kouga Saburou (建御名方/甲賀三郎) - The original Ruler of Suwa region. Also the husband of Yasakatome no Kami/Kanako as Takeminakata and Moreya no Kami/Suwako as Kouga Saburou.

>SWR
Taishakuten (帝釈天) - The Lord of Heaven and Leader of the Celestials. Responsible for giving Tenshi the Sword of Hisou so she can create an incident that results territory expansion for Heaven.

>SA
Sarutahiko (猿田毘古) - Earthly kami who lead Ninigi to the land together with Yatagarasu and the ancestor of monkey-like youkai like Satori. Responsible for trapping Yatagarasu underground that results Kanako persuading Utsuho to eat it.

>UFO
Myouren (命蓮) - Byakuren's brother and the driving force behind her quest for immortality to avoid death.

>TD
Emperor Youmei (用明天皇) - Father of Prince Shoutoku/Miko and a relative to Soga clan. Responsible for introducing Taoism to the Soga and Mononobe before Seiga Kaku came in.

>HM
Hata no Kawakatsu/Taikou Daimyoujin (秦河勝/対抗大明神)- The creator and father figure for Hata no Kokoro. Responsible for throwing away the Mask of Hope so she could stand on her own emotionally.

>DDC
Urikohime (瓜子姫) - The Princess that Shinmyoumaru sworn to protect in the past, only to get murdered accidentally by Seija.

>ULiL
Usami Clan (宇佐美氏/宇佐見氏) - They're samurai clan differing branch of Ito clan and Kudo clan. The only known members are Usami Sadamitsu (宇佐美定満), a general of Uesugi clan, and Usami Sukemochi (宇佐美祐茂), Head of the Usami clan at Izu in Heian period. Possible ancestor of Sumireko and Renko.

>LoLK
Feng Meng/Houmou (逢蒙) - Hou Yi's apprentice and responsible for his death with the collaboration of Han Zhou and Xuan Qi/Junko. He's also the only one who try to rob the Elixir of Immortality from Chang'e/Jouga, resulting her drank the said Elixir and become immortal, which also results Junko's erratic pursue on her.

>AoCM
Kisshoten (吉祥天) and Kokuanten (黒闇天) - The original Goddess Fortune/Blessing and Misfortune/Disaster. Both sisters are mother figure of Jo'on and Shion respectively. Tired of of their daughters always messing around, they told them to take a vacation in Gensokyo and attend Primsriver + Raiko concert. Little did they know, that their daughters already hatched a plan for having their own fun in Gensokyo.

>HSiFS
Shinra Myoujin (新羅明神) - The Mysterious Deity of Miidera Temple and the main rival of Matarajin/Okina. Not wanting to lose his status as Secret God, he goaded and challenged Okina to reveal herself on Gensokyo in order to win a bet between them.

>>33835642
>The Princess that Shinmyoumaru sworn to protect in the past
I asked before, got answered and forgot what was the answer, so I'll ask again.
Where the fuck did you (or whoever made this list) get this idea from?

>>33836946
>Vlad Tepes III Draculesti/Count Dracula - Responsible for turning the Scarlet sisters into vampire.
From a retard, it seems.

>>33837247
Yes, it's supposed to be written "Vlad Țepeș Drăculea". >>33835642 is such a retard!

remilia just says she's related to dracula because she's a lying baka that thinks it makes her sound regal

So can someone explain Tsukumo to me? I mean, I get that they are tools that gained a spirit either from being treated very well or very poorly, but I thought that a core precept to Shinto was that everything housed a spirit? Because it's animism?

>>33845459
The spirit isn't necessarily sapient. The tsukumogami's spirit became sapient.

So we got Kappa and Yawamaro. I hope they will add Oyabun Kappa and NEET Kappa
http://yokai.com/suiko/
http://yokai.com/garappa/

>>33810202
[MUFFLED FUNKY]

>>33601249
Disdain for hylics

>>33638997
I feel like this is like a 2200's historian saying American Women from the "free love period" didn't shower or shave and took copious amounts of drugs and all dressed like Janice Joplin.
Like sure, some did and the surviving records have a lot of evidence supporting it, but I doubt every noble woman looked like that. Maybe I'm wrong.

>>33835642
Dank

>>33825386
They're partners. In a 1v1 fight its hinted Kanako could probably beat Suwako, shes done it in the past, but it would be close and theres no reason to. Kanako has ambition and is willing to aim for greater things than just sitting in her shrine all day but she also fears death from lack of faith while Suwako does not. Suwako has powers useful to Kanako but she uses them less out of fear or fealty and more out of friendship. I mean, would you let you ages old friend die from lack of faith anon?

Assisting.

>>33862024
It's not a matter of fighting, in the backstory, Kanako had to use Suwako's powers to get the people to follow her, so it's still really just Suwako's shrine in the end with Kanako as the face of it.

>>33849764
That diagram also seems to depict the fashions of the aristocracy. Kaguya's adoptive parents were peasants, so it's likely that she would have dressed more plainly (although Mokou might not have). Note also that the Heian period was multiple centuries long, and that fashions change noticeably on the scale of generations.

>>33787772
>>33788200
I think it's because she's a shinrei.

>>33862154
But she clearly didnt? She had followers, Suwako had followers, and Kanako rusted the weapons of Suwako's followers. She only needed Suwako to gain the faith of her followers, she can gain faith on her own, its just easier to do so with Suwakos help.

New thread:
>>33874219

>>33874227
Retard

>>33824556
one thing that could definitely be updated here is that this stage background is a picture from an alicesoft (pretty sure it's from an early rance title) game

>>33874227
Why does this need to be a general, anon?

>>33877549
This thread's OP here. I have no idea why that anon have done that. I only put the last threads in the thread's description, so it would be easier for people to find them. I never intended for it to be a General. These threads have never been posted one after another, there's always been a couple of days or weeks between them.

Blame the >>33874219 's OP, anon.

>>33878795
I say let him have it since the Gameplay Thread exists.
No back to back threads however.

>>33207844
also seiga kaku uses a type of magic that uses the soul of fetuses... can't remember where i read that tho

>>33638997
the teeth dye faded after a while so they had to do it again after a period of time, also the dye would stain the lips so they used lipstick to cover the stains.
the brown where shaved or plucked and redrewn on.
also it was common for women of that time to cut bangs when they got married so mokou and kaguya got married at some point...
also i during that period noble women wore red pants under all the layers to act as a pad and also they thought that it helped with period cramps and infertility...so yeah...mokou is wearing period pants and she's going commando.
also i don't think that mokou would keep doing all the beauty stuff, but on the other side kaguya would and she would look like the pic

>>33878795
>>33880013
Whoops, sorry about that guys. I posted the new thread because I wanted to mention the wordplay I had found in the word "Gensoukyou" while still leaving room to discuss it. (I thought /jp/'s bump limit was 300 but apparently it's 315 or so.)

>>33880132
It's one of her spell cards.

>>33882020
310. Not 300.

last one I guess.

Komakusa Dayuu theory I saw on twitter:
Folklore as to the origin of the name of the plant komakusa (that can be seen in stage 3 and that Dayuu takes her name from): - a woman called Okoma has an ill daughter - she has a dream in which she's told to pick a plant from the top of Mount Ontake - she climbs the mountain and makes medicine from the plant - this saves her daughter's life and the plant is named after her (first okogusa and later komakusa).
Ontake has an interesting legend that says its 5 lakes were created by 5 dragon gods.
This connection might explain the dragon-themed elements of Dayuu's design and theme title etc.
I imagine ZUN was researching a lot of dragon-related folklore when coming up with characters for the game considering the title 'kouryuudou'.

>>33899766
I should add that although it's interesting, the connection is perhaps a little tenuous.
The whole dragon thing might be just to illustrate her Yakuza-ness like ZUN said he tried to do with her theme.

>>33886949
That's a weird-ass number.

Goodbye everyone, see you next thread!

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