/jp/ - Otaku Culture

>>33116860
What you posted only applies if you are like Ken-Sama

>>33116860
Yea

>>33116860
anon, of course moving to japan isnt feasible when youre a neet with no marketable skills. dont project yourself onto /jp/

>>33116860
>unrealistic
How is moving to japan unrealistic. It's probably one of the easiest life goals out there, you don't even need to know Japanese to become an English teacher, JET is a fucking joke.

>>33117015
>dont need japanese to be an english teacher
So you can teach english to kids who know no english at all completely in english?

>>33117015
Good luck trying to explain english particles, contractions, etc to japanese students without knowing japanese

>>33117052
Yup. This is from jet's own website.
>>33117113
Don't need any of that when you're singing English nursery rhymes to Japanese grade schoolers.

>>33117052
you're gonna roast /jp/ dude. this is what 2hushit does to your brains

>>33116860
Yeah I still get them, and I genuinely believe I'd like Nippon more because of its scenery and language. But I assume that if I hate it here I'll hate it there, so it's an afterthought these days.

>>33117137
>dont need japanese
>must commit to learning japanese
Hmm

So all you do as a teacher is sing nursery rhymes? Pretend you know no japanese at all. Pretend youre taking a japanese class and the teacher cant speak any english. How much japanese do you expect to learn? Or do you get a decent grasp of japanese before you apply to be a teacher so you can actually explain english language concepts correctly.
>nah you dont need to communicate with students

>>33117235
imagine not being able to speak with your colleagues. youre just the weird gaijin who cant talk to anyone just like
>>33116860
is in real life

>>33117235
Thankfully at least Japanese classes have bigger standards in teaching, probably because most people learn Japanese later in life outside of high school. I live in the UK so we had a choice between German or French, and I remember my French teacher barely knew any English and taught the entire lesson in French. That teacher's English improved as the school term went on.
>So all you do as a teacher is sing nursery rhymes?
Depending on your Japanese level, you can teach higher grades. If you know nothing or near to nothing, you can expect to only teach toddlers.

Having at least a working knowledge of Japanese and having visited several times, I can't say I'd actually want to live there for an extended period of time. If I had to live in East Asia I'd much prefer Taipei or Seoul over Tokyo/Osaka/Kyoto/Nagoya/Sapporo.
Even these days though, I can't say I really dislike living in the states. It's not as if there is truly a country for weebs.

Japan is one of the best countries to casually tourist as a lone foreigner or with others, though.

>>33117392
I get that its possible, but why wouldnt you attain some level of proficiency first? I think most people here would agree that its irresponsible to move to a different country without at least conversational skills in that language. Its not fun trying to communicate with someone who cant speak your language. I live in america, youre in the uk, im sure both of understand the troubles of living among people who cant speak english. Like i said yeah its possible, but why would you? You are at a huge disadvantage both in your teaching ability, and communication ability if you arent at least conversational.

>>33117500
Also, having grown up in the rural Midwest, I can say that Japanese farming towns don't even feel that different to me, as did Korean/Chinese ones.
Hicks around the world have more in common than they profess.

>>33117577
You're absolutely right, you shouldn't teach English in Japan if you don't have an interest in Japan and the Japanese language. Unfortunately many people do exactly that, and exploit the poor system because "wow japan so exotic and cool" or they think it'll be a neat experience, and then they wonder why they feel so burnt out after only 1 year.

>>33116860
t.

>>33116860
Of course. Everyone wishes their lives were better and Japan has its appeals, even if the reality is cruel.

>>33116860
t. can't speak japanese

>>33116860

Unironically no, and the people who feel this way are delusional morons without an iota of introspection. You can buy anything you want from Japan using Internet storefronts or escrow services, and anything you want to see or do in Japan can be realized simply by saving money and eventually taking a vacation there. So what's the point of living in Japan? Do these unironic weeaboos not realize that if they're ostracized losers in their home country, they're going to be even bigger losers in a foreign one?

>>33117661
And they also bitch about how "racist" japan is and how it doesn't cater to their demands and give them privileges like their western country does. Holy shit I hate those type of people. They ruin japan for the rest of us..

>>33119105
This so much. If you go to live in a foreign country, you need to adapt to the country and culture, not the other way around

>>33119327
Really isn't that hard DESU.
I lived in Taipei for 4 years, and after getting good with Taiwanese Mandarin it was basically just vibing in not-China for years.

>>33116892
>>33118129
at least OP is self aware

>>33116860
No, closet I get is dreaming of going to live in a hut or something.

>>33119105
western social media is full of those sjw morons, they are similar to the western kpop fans that complain all the time about management forcing the girls to wear short shorts

If you are just a weeb who likes 2D stuff don't come to Japan. It will be a shock to see how people actually don't give a shit about most of that stuff and you will feel like shit like every other dame ningen japanese otaku.

>>33116860
>not having an office job in Japan
>not being a life-long slave to the very first black company you got your job
>not being shunned by society
>not being able to date multiple japanese girls and get rejected in the first hour of your meet up
>not being able to go to onsen by yourself
>not being able to climb a mountain and break your leg, where you would most likely be ignored thanks to being a foreigner
>not being able to practice your japanese with the tv
hold me bros, I am relapsing of not being able to do all of the aforementioned...

Not interested in being a salaryman and working 16 hours per day. But I think being a Yakuza would be fun. Or living in an Internet cafe with my retirement savings, but they've been closed down because of the (((virus))).

"Damn I wish was Japanese" is only said by weebs who get all their knowledge about Japan from anime and 2hu

>>33119936
Japanese people live in an ethno state where they can walk in the streets where they don't get insulted by groups of immigrants who spend their entire days at the corners of the streets. I don't see how being Japanese could go wrong.

I see too many people wanting to teach English in Japan, how is the pay like really?

>>33119996
sufficient

>>33119837
People use this as an argument but the thing is, you'll be immersed in the language of the otaku media. Japanese otaku are probably different from gaijin ones, they grew up with this media, they understand its quirks on a deeper level having a natural understanding of japanese. Also nips are based and i'd have gay sex with lonely buttbuddies while dressed like touhous.

you guys are going to end up with your body framed in the suicide forest as an an-hero.

>>33120070
I would give my life for any Japanese person. Life in Europe is horrible and everyone is stupid and extroverted. The Japanese people are all cute and introverted, and intelligent. This is the paradise on earth. I do not think of myself as worthy of being in Japan, even as a tourist. I'm not cute enough.

>>33119936
Oh yeah, fuck living in a polite society where i mostly dont have to deal with rude fucks, where people are considerate of each other, where people dont litter, where people as a whole are responsible, hard workers, and where drugs like heroin are not an issue. Who would want that haha that sounds like shit.

>>33119960
ngl not having to be "culturally enriched" sounds pretty nice.
t. Swede

>>33120333
Hi felix

>>33120070
Son, I've picked up Japanese and Mandarin throughout the years.

Japanese culture is not worth emigration to on its own. Most aspects can be acquired from a comfy spot in the states, postage included,

>>33120163
I'm okay with that so long as that logan guy doesn't try to skullfuck me.

>>33119921
>But I think being a Yakuza would be fun.
This is your brain on yakuza games.

>>33119866
Pardon, who are you quoting?

>>33120650
Haha good one my friend. It just gets funnier and funnier.

>>33120689
Please do not misuse the quote function in the future.

>>33116860
It's enough to see vroids relocated, they are barely ''otaku related'' and removing them has given me a reason to be here.
I have seen enough, from my armchair.

>>33116860
It comes full circle. When you're naive you want to go to japan because you think it'll be paradise. Most people will realize that's silly romanticism and that japan has it's own problems. Eventually you'll come to realize the west is so cancerous that japan would be preferable after all.

>>33118890
Oh look some NEET that's never traveled giving travel advice. There are plenty of countries that are likely to treat you better than your own, unless you're some third-worlder nobody wants. There's an entire board about this subject dumbass. I tip my fedora to your cynically enlightened self, anon.

>>33119996
worst thing is when you see someone from some third world shithole thinking they know enough English to go to Japan to teach English, that is ridiculous

>>33123089
From watching interview videos of random street people in Japan it looks like culture is just as shit.

>>33124751
In what ways? I didn't notice much to complain about from watching Nobita's videos, except the girls seemed more conservative.

>>33116860
i've gone to vietnam/thailand as a kid on some sort of pseudo-birthright trip funded by my parents and would love to VISIT Japan after a years long infatuation with the culture. especially if the Olympics are happening. but traveling overseas is scary. i might catch covid and never be able to return to the US cause of obvious sensible travel restrictions.

how were any of you guys planning on funding your travel? were you planning on immigrating or simply visiting? do you just have an infinite monetary supply or were you planning on working in Japan?

btw reminder that COVID is now a permanent fixture of life for the rest of the forseeable future. it most likely will not be eradicated totally.

>>33124590
As someone from the US who has encountered the exact group you describe: most of them have a good enough grasp on English for education if they've made it that far.
Sure, they'll have an accent, but the degree of command of English they're trying to teach is so fundamental that accent is a relatively minor barrier. The intended audience would struggle to even pick up the difference before the nuts and bolts of the language. And that's to say nothing of native Japanese teachers and their grasp on the English language (or Spanish, or Mandarin, or...), despite (understandably) being preferentially assigned the roles. The latter group would make Peggy Hill look like a Spanish savant.

I've mainly run into Filipinos, Indonesians, and Brazilians teaching English in Japan, both in public schooling and privately, and most of them have a command on English that I would call basically fluent. They search for words, they might fail a contraction or an inflection, but they're generally comfortable at speaking English and making themselves understood. The general vibe I got was that they acquired English growing up. As far as I could tell, their main issue would be comprehension of Japanese.

>>33125306
More of a topic for /trv/, but:
>how were any of you guys planning on funding your travel?
I've been to Japan twice, once for a few days while in East Asia, once for two weeks. I had a friend who I could stay with, but for a convenient* journey (good plane (ANA), lodging, public transport, restaurants) you are looking at a few thousand dollars in total, probably a thousand at a minimum. The longer you stay, the more the price should stretch out.
As far as your worries about COVID, the sensible advice is to get the vaccine and wait until the Japanese/US governments no longer consider it an issue worth restricting travel over, which will probably be within the year.

* For an inconvenient one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eFgRxfTZPI

>>33125528
no school should be so cheap as to hire them, and any parent shouldn't be fool enough to send their kids to schools that hire them

>>33125645
you make it sound so accessible haha. maybe i'll get a few pen pals to practice the language and make the trip eventually. bonus points if they let me lodge with them but obvs would have enough resources to lodge myself.


lmao that vagrant is so based! i cant believe he tried hitchhiking and actually got picked up.
>https://youtu.be/7eFgRxfTZPI?t=1021
>i dont know why but "what's this button do?.... alright i've seen enough" made me laugh uncontrollably. his normal voice is just hilarious in light of the exotic events occurring.

>>33120385
What happened to his plan to move to Japan

>>33116860
Sometimes in my loneliness wish I had been born in the Japanese countryside in some tightly knit village.
I'm not bold to fantasise about moving there, though, as I wouldn't be one of the village boys anyway.

>>33117015
What if I have the c2 English certification but I'm not a native speaker? How difficult would that be for me to get hired

>>33116860
I'm old enough to know I can actually do it without issue if i'm willing to sacrifice a bit of time to finish up a bachelors, income from lost work and creature comforts but i'm so close to my family I don't know if I want to live on the other side of the planet just because I enjoy their culture (normalfag and otaku ones), sights and girls.

>>33125306
>btw reminder that COVID is now a permanent fixture of life for the rest of the forseeable future.
So is the virus that caused the spanish flu. we got over it.

>>33130863
I'd never do what this guy does in particular (camping outside, etc.), but a lot of my traveling abroad is basically:
1. Get a plane ticket and a rough idea of lodgings, and a few things I may want to visit
2. Wing it from there

As long as you can speak the local language and know how to get around, you can basically just wander around at your leisure if you so desire.

>>33132699
please don't

>>33132699
Not him but I’d imagine it’d be easier with TOEFL or something

>>33124590
>>33125528
>>33126761
Brazilian here, sometimes I might add an "i" after my words, it's an accent thing. I still haven't met a Japanese who could speak English as well as I do. Never got disrespected as well or treated as a lowly third worlder.

>>33135645
post a recording

>>33135457

>>33135642
But the toefl is easier to get as far as I know, do jeeps prefer it for other reasons? Im honestly just curious

>>33120297
There are a lot of dangerous things in Japan too, like claimers, rougai, anti-doutei sentiment, White Pig Go Home marches, excessive salt intake, and salary men overworked into the karoshi.

OP is a feminist faggot.

If going to Nippon is a life goal to VISIT and leave after a few weeks , then do it.

But these glowniggers are trying to make people abandon their copes.

Run them over with the metaphorical van.

>>33116860
>autistic, stupid AND unrealistic?
This is true, but I kinda feel for you.

I've studied abroad at a university in Japan and worked, albeit briefly, doing white-collar work in Japan. It sounds so fucking appealing until you realize the reality of it.

Japan is a phenomenal fucking place to visit. Amazing food, cool people, weird culture, blah blah. When you live there, it becomes a different entity entirely. Small things (e.g., having athletic hobbies outside of work, stocking up on groceries so you don't have to go shopping every time you cook, etc.) become a huge fucking hassle, especially in Tokyo. You can be reasonably good at the language, but the combination of your looks and your lack of perfect N1 skills will always be a sort of roadblock. Dating and fucking every manko that moves is fun for two seconds until you begin to realize it's all a house of cards and you're constantly at risk of some girl trying to spermjack you for a halfu baby. You begin to wierdly miss more permissive aspects of Western culture, like having the ability to leave work at a reasonable hour.

The JET program is unfortunate. As someone from the outside looking in, all the people in that gig really do seem miserable, thanks in no small part to the mindless job and the low pay. I had a shitton of money when I was in Japan which afforded me the ability to do little stress-reducing things (e.g., weekend trips, fancy restaurants, etc) that they unquestionably couldn't afford. Those people seemed like they were constantly being hit in the face with the realization that they were at the bottom rungs of society in a lot of ways. A lot of my buddies from the Japanese university are now back in the US and, contrary to what you might think, seem genuinely happier with their lives.

Here's what I recommend you do instead: get a nice job in your home country, save up money, and go to Asia as much as you want with that saved-up money. Pre-COVID, I'd go every year at least twice. If you can telework, it becomes inconsequential - get some cheapass crash pad in Thailand for a bit, bop over to a cheap hotel in Taiwan, stay in Tokyo/Seoul for as long as your money reasonably lasts you, then bop back home full of stories and food.

>>33124826
> except the girls being more conservative
why's that something bad

>>33141767
It isn't, I agree. Some people think it's bad for... reasons.

>>33141434
Thanks for this info, can I ask. When you studied in Japan, how hard was it to apply for Visa's and stuff? Did you get in trouble signing up?

Yea I don't want to teach English, that sounds terrible, the plan would be to save up but at the same time, that requires a job that doesn't mind that you move abroad and basically NEET and come back with ease

>>33116860
i'd live there only if i managed to get into a company with an international branch or english department. Not that i don't know japanese, but i imagine it would have a different office culture compared to your typical black company.

I want to too, unfortunately I live in a progressive shit hole called Argentina

>>33141994
>When you studied in Japan, how hard was it to apply for Visa's and stuff? Did you get in trouble signing up?
Not a bit, but I did so through my U.S. university as a study abroad program, so the process was well-established and straightforward.

>>33141994
>the plan would be to save up but at the same time, that requires a job that doesn't mind that you move abroad and basically NEET and come back with ease
It's admittedly very unlikely you'd be allowed to do that.

Keep in mind that the rule of thumb with immigration (and, particularly, with visas) is that they're letting you come in for some specific country-benefitting reason. Most countries don't just allow you to live there and work remotely in another country - from their perspective, it's rarely worth the effort of allowing you in, and they realize none of the tax revenue. That's doubly the case for Japan, which assumes foreigner = potential criminal.

The "smart" move, as I see it, would be to come in for something genuinely useful (e.g., taking classes at a university, doing some sort of language exchange program) for a short duration (a few months). Problem is, you gotta find (1) someone that will take you for (2) a program you actually wanna do. I'm trying to do this (I'm older and could teach law at a university), but it's proven to be tough as fuck, even when I'm expressly looking for something after COVID lockdowns calm down.

The "stupid but effective" nomad move a lot of other folks do is just hop from tourist visa to tourist visa. Japan gives you 90 days, Korea gives you 90 days, Thailand gives you 60, etc. All you gotta do is make sure you're out within that period. It gives you an excuse to bop around Asia like a nomad and work remotely largely without question. Keep in mind, though, that you can't do it forever - I'm sure that Japan would feel free to send your ass home if they saw you do more than 2-3 visitor visas in a year or something like that.

>>33142846
That's a nice plan anon, I personally plan on travelling to Japan for a university spot when I can afford it, it will be expensive but I know it's possible, It is entirely possible for me to do so, I just have to have a plan.

Hopping country to country is impossible in these covid days, the only hope that I have is university and English teacher (but I hate the thought of that). Can I ask what university you went to? And did you see any difference from the west?

>>33117015
JET is basically a lottery

>>33141434
>like having the ability to leave work at a reasonable hour.
isn't that your own fault for taking part in the culture of "being the first one to go home is embarrassing"?

>>33141434
>get some cheapass crash pad in Thailand for a bit, bop over to a cheap hotel in Taiwan, stay in Tokyo/Seoul for as long as your money reasonably lasts you, then bop back home full of stories and food.


great post and totally true, living in Japan long term actually sucks, and Thailand has way more benefits when you actually go and live in both to compare

>>33120204
theres tons of ugly japanese people wtf are you talking about is this such obvious bait that it comes around and becomes nice bait

>>33143909
JET is great if you want to go to the inaka.

I live in Japan, and it fucking sucks. I made a thread about this a lonnnng time ago, but this bears repeating.

1. Anime and manga are more expensive in Japan. The prices are ridiculous, and it's hard for me to justify buying anime even though I feel it's important for fans to make an effort to support the industry.

2. If you are a girl, you will be groped and treated like shit. I have had men grab my ass in public *7* different times in the past year and a half. My Japanese friends say that women should just grit their teeth and bear it, since if you try to do something about it you will be publicly shamed. I also feel dirty and pathetic when these incidents occur.

3. Office culture in Japan is...intense. You are expected to show up at social gatherings even if you do not want to. And at these social gatherings people have the EXACT SAME CONVERSATIONS AGAIN AND AGAIN. I've had like 50 conversations on the power of beer to refresh you after a day's work. You have to say "good morning" every day in a very specific way, and if you don't then someone will approach you and tell you that's not how things are done at company XYZ.

4. The people treat gaijin like shit. Even the ones who try to be nice come across as condescending and rude by American standards. There are also a large number of Japanese men who think gaijin women are sluts and that they can get you to open your legs at the drop of a hat. Fuckers.

I wish all the Japanohiles could actually visit GLORIOUS NIPPON. They'd change their tune.

>>33147830
>>/jp/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=I+live+in+Japan%2C+and+it+fucking+sucks+Japanohiles
I thought I had seen this before a few times, but that's some goddamn dedication.
Honestly it passes like realistic enough case of a naive weeb going to Japan and becoming disillusioned, not really sure what makes it such a long-lasting copypasta.

>>33124590
Sometimes impudence is a virtue. I knew a woman who had a better position than me, even if they knew jackshit about her work at the start.
Even I was savvier in her field of work, lmao.

>>33125306
>i might catch covid and never be able to return to the US cause of obvious sensible travel restrictions
You need something like this.

>>33125645
>you are looking at a few thousand dollars in total, probably a thousand at a minimum.
I wonder if an average Japanese salary amount (~300k yen) would be enough for a nearly month of travel expenses there?

If I was in my early 20s I would certainly try it. But I'm 30 and I really don't want to live in a tiny shitty apartment and deal with a very shitty Japanese corporate culture.

All Japanese media I can consume from home. Basically the only thing I'm interested are Japanese girls - I want whores, relationships and just friendships. In my country it's rare to to find an asian girl and everytime I see one I'm in awe.

I guess I will move there once I decide I want a wife.

>>33148343
>I guess I will move there once I decide I want a wife.
stay where you are, you won't be a positive addition to the country that is for sure

>>33148394
Nope. My goal is to significantly increase Japan's birthrate.

>>33147971
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/39801258
>>/jp/thread/6049016
because it's real

>>33116860
It seems like a neat place to visit, but it's not a theme park mmo, and I certainly wouldn't want to live there forever. shit would get old right fast.

>>33149442
Not surprised. Just doesn't really stand out to me beyond seeing it several times before. Could've been OC yesterday and it would still seem like a fairly typical case of culture shock.
I guess its pretty tone deaf for (especially) /a/ and /jp/ of course, but I don't see why it is interesting or notable on its own. But at least a few people probably found something else in it to repost it.

>>33147830
>4. The people treat gaijin like shit. Even the ones who try to be nice come across as condescending and rude by American standards.
this seems to be the fate of visible minorities in pretty much every country

>>33148121
>YOU VILL VEAR ZE HOOD OF SHAME UND YOU VILL LIKE IT!

>>33154564
Rude awakening is for the gaijins who had great experience as a tourist and got shocked when the xenophobia is rearing when you're around long enough. You wouldn't survive their insane wageslave culture anyway.

>>33155523
this

a lot of Japanese are nice, but there is still a sizable number that absolutely hate foreigners and the longer you are there the more you will run into them

I lived there about three years total and really liked it.

The big downside from my POV is the big difficulty jump (and honestly, for me, a commitment hurdle) between normally temporary language work and something more permanent.

Can't relate to most of the complaints in this thread. If you're a gaijin (non-Chinese) in Japan and getting yourself locked into a death-by-work office you are indeed doing it wrong. I would go back if able to attain a relatively undemanding uni position or something similar, but I also think the anon's advice re: getting serious work at home and traveling whenever you can is wise.

Doing a year teaching English is not the worst thing, either, and can help you figure out if you even like the place. I really did, personally, but wouldn't want to do that kind of work permanently. /diary]

>>33147830
>There are also a large number of Japanese men who think gaijin women are sluts and that they can get you to open your legs at the drop of a hat
look at the average western woman's social media page for 2 seconds and it will become apparent why this is.

>>33116860
there is nothing wrong with having shitty desires, as long as you know they are shitty.
It would improve your situation to also know why you have such shitty desires.

>>33156733
You have cunts like that in every country, though. I don't really get this narrative of Japan being some hotbed of xenophobia that people always like to push.

>>33157894
they are not just a few cunts though, xenophobia is an important protection they have built into their culture, Japan is an homogeneous country and that is part of the reason they are so successful, especially when it comes to an overall responsibility, respect, and discipline from the people as a whole

>>33147649
Is the inaka a good place to live

>>33147830
>Anime and manga are more expensive in Japan
Lol who cares. I've never bought that stuff legally.
>If you are a girl, you will be groped
Get over it, it's just a hand.
>and treated like shit
It's not like you're exempt from being treated like shit if you're a guy. Disrespectful people exist for both genders.
>Office culture in Japan is...intense
As it is in America and everywhere else in the world. The repetitive conversations and toxic office culture isn't unique to Japan. Watch 'Office Space' some time.
>The people treat gaijin like shit. Even the ones who try to be nice come across as condescending and rude by American standards.
Everyone on earth wears a false facade over their true personality when they talk to strangers. If you think everyone's an asshole, that's on you.

>>33149442
Here's a great post from that thread:

Okay, so I think I understand what's going on. You're curious that your "boyfriend" (read: fuck-of-the-week) spends a lot of time every day going F5 F5 F5 on 4chan's /b/, which is the only part of the fucking site he probably goes to. So you decided "Hey, I think I'll post a thread here and see what these CRAZY HILARIOUS INTERNET PEOPLE have to say!" I bet you like going to sites like Fark and collegehumor and Ebaumsworld when you're not posting glitter comments in people's myspaces and listening to the streaming mp3s they have linked on their profiles.

Also, you are a ridiculous waste of a human being with nothing better to do with your time than to sit here and say "Hey guys I'm a girl teehee I giggle and I'm soft and I get to wear cute clothes when I go out on Friday nights! Hey you know what'd be fun I have a good idea I'll sit here and press F5 F5 F5 on a thread I made and watch people from the internet talk to me!"

You're just trying to validate your vapid existence by proving your gender to you, yourself.

Femininity doesn't travel over Ethernet and DOCSIS, honey. When you're standing there at the bus stop in the morning on the way to your $8/hr part-time job, and people start talking to you, they're not "being nice people" - they're trying to find an opening to get a chance to fuck you. And you're so wrapped up in yourself that you don't even realize it, you just think that people are talking to you because you look cute and it brings a smile to their morning to see a pretty young thing like you.

But nobody would have known you were a girl if you hadn't fucking posted this abortion of a post. Therefore any and all conversation you're having here is completely initiated by you, for the sole purpose of garnering internal merit for yourself.

>>33116860
get out of your basement first

>>33159208
Only one of their points is gender-dependent, though. If they didn't bring up #2, anons would've just been more likely to reach for another of many potential axes to grind with that post that wouldn't address the actual points of the post. Tone, off-siter, etc.

I don't think its a particularly thread at all, especially for /a/, but it seems the only reason it gets copypasta'd so much is not because it is funny or interesting or anything like that, but because it irritates the anxieties of a lot of a anons in such a blasé and biting way, even if they often hide it behind contrarianism and irony. Fact of the matter is that a lot of weebs/otakus/etc. consume Japanese media as a means to ignore their current dissatisfaction with life in a way that other media addresses less effectively for them, and so they often read heavily into Japanese society and culture from the ideals presented in that media. I've known plenty of people unironically like that in online communities , like the OP in this thread, and even a few IRL, and they really don't want to hear - yet again - that most of the practical issues in their current life would either be unresolved or heightened if they moved to Japan with their current mentality and motivations. For example, I think the detached ironic weeb persona that come to be norm in the 2010s is at least partially a defense mechanism to the irritation of naysayers.

I can't think of a single good reason for that post to have any space in someone's head, even for the stereotypical jaypee. Probably just soured a few anons hard enough that they feel obligated to air it out every time this kind of thread pops up.

>>33159841
you are not wrong

>>33158574
>xenophobia is an important protection
>homogeneous country and that is part of the reason they are so successful
are you sure you aren't confusing the chicken and the egg?

>>33158574
I agree. I heard that some Japanese politicians are pushing for more immigration into Japan though. Some claim that Japan needs to "open up" and allow themselves to become more diverse.

>>33164489
I've never seen them adopt the diversity argument in particular, just the usual "we need [cheap] labor to fill [job sector]" shtick. Also, they're more for work visas which can be readily revoked.

>>33158574
I can't fault them for it. A country's enemies will use diversity as a weapon against a country they wish to subvert. It's been repeated through out the western world and they are doing the same to Japan.

>>33157894
Less than a century ago, Japan was the most extreme xenophobic country I can think of. Imagine being a foreigner in imperial Japan, sheesh. That spirit lies dormant among the people, and it was quelled only by nuclear devastation. I wouldn't want to be in Japan when it awakens.

I can say one thing if given the choice of living in diverse USA versus living in Japan, my choice is instant and easy to make.

>>33147971
>>33147830
saving this bait, thanks

>>33165417
It's not bait though.
That's what I don't get, it's like people are reading into this like its some perspective that's illegitimate. I can see disagreeing with it, but almost no one is actually challenging the points they made.

>>33165440
oh, so you like horrid posts and agree with them? Here's more

My gf had about 10 partners. She was my first. I know most of her exes because of mutual friends. Most of them are good guys. This doesn't disturb me. At all...

Why? Because I'm not an insecure pussy and I'm glad she did what she thought was good at the time.

13 years and two kids later we are still good. Don't overthink this shit. She is an individual with rights and a will of her own

and another:
Another woman. Disregard the opinions of the spoiled unwrapped meat. Definitely past expiry date too with flabby arms and crows feet on the brow and alpha Chad won't answer her texts and heeere come the incel remarks and the "i fuck anyone I want" defensive reaction from a hysterical dried up ovarie out of date meat

>>33158758
It's the best place to live as a human being.

>>33142846
>foreigner = potential criminal
yeah i can see that

>>33165573
>oh, so you like horrid posts and agree with them?
I don't like it, definitely didn't belong on /jp/ or /a/, and I think their take is of someone whose expectations of Japan were entirely misplaced.

But there's actually few things I would even call horrid that I've seen on 4chan in the last decade, if we're going by average seen per total content. And that OP doesn't even come close to meeting the mark or even standing out. Especially since they are voicing opinions that are not that far off from what other people said in this thread before this post was made.
Based on your reply, it seems like your hung on how it was said and who said it, rather than the actual substance of what was said. And there is substance if you remove the tone and their person from it.

What you posted doesn't give me any real reaction, because I generally don't care about people who I don't know, or what they do with their personal relationships. None of my beeswax, and it wouldn't be in Japan either.

>>33145976
>people actually think that this behavior is normal in japan
Of course otaku exist in japan, but its not actually a magical anime fetish island. Magical fetish island, yes, but people unfamiliar with the culture dont realize that for most, anime is just another form of media.

>>33147830
>i live in japan and it fucking sucks
Then why continue to live there?

1: who cares, support creators
2: you will never be a real girl
3: god forbid that you have to participate in social gatherings that you dont want to go to and communicate with people. Protip: fucking no one wants to go to social gatherings at work, you just do it.
4: visit new york city for a week and then tell me more about how rude nips are. As another anon said, look at western womens social media pages and tell me why you think they feel that way about you. Western women are fucking sluts with daddy complexes.

You dont live in japan. Im willing to bet youve never even been there. Another example of someone "living" in japan and not actually understanding the culture. Work doesnt need to be fun, it has one purpose and that is to make money. And dont expect respect from strangers just because you exist.

I'm white and worthless and
they don't want me. I don't want to impose myself on a culture that doesn't want me.

Also their food sucks

>>33125306
>btw reminder that COVID is now a permanent fixture of life for the rest of the forseeable future. it most likely will not be eradicated totally.
as if it actually is dangerous, don't fall for that shit
you should do some research in imporatnt things like that
http://tapnewswire.com/2020/09/ultimate-proof-covid-19-was-planned-to-usher-in-the-new-world-order/
>>33125645
>the sensible advice is to get the vaccine
you know that the vaccine can change your dna and shit? it's literally deadly, people who take it usually die or get their health fucked up sooner or later, it there are also long term effects to be worried about
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-07-26-fast-tracked-covid-19-vaccine-alters-human-dna.html
http://tapnewswire.com/2021/02/shocking-official-data-on-adverse-reactions-to-covid-vaccines-released/
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-10-pfizers-vaccine-studies-based-on-fraud.html

>>33147830
>The people treat gaijin like shit.
and so what?
what do you expect? you're the alien in a foreign country so you should expect to not get treated equally, nobody likes foreigners in their home countries.
i do agree that the part with the groping and harassment sucks but in that way you're also at fault for letting that groping thing happen (assuming you just put up with it)

>>33123089
ティス
t. studied japanology

>>33167864
This. Its their country. You adapt to them, they shouldnt have to adapt to you. I dont know why this is so hard for my fellow westerners to understand. If you adapt to the foreigners moving to your country, you end up with a mess like in america and europe. I hope japan never changes so it can remain strong.
Japanese people are generally polite to foreigners, but at the same time im sure they know how westerners tend to fuck things up. Like people getting pissed off at nobita for making a video about what he dislikes about foreigners. I mean hes right, westerners do like to litter and are rude and inconsiderate of people among other things. In general of course, there are exceptions. Stop being assholes and japanese people may start to like us more.

>>33167734
>https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-07-26-fast-tracked-covid-19-vaccine-alters-human-dna.html
>Sources include:
>NewsWars.com
>NaturalNews.com
>ChildrensHealthDefense.org
...
>NaturalNews.com
I also consider myself to be a proper source of information, along with people who draw the same conclusions as myself.

Literally the only source they reference that actually reviews a study of the vaccine's effects is: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/vaccines/letter-to-wv-legislators-the-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-is-likely-to-make-more-people-sick-than-covid-19/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32663912/
The 80% moderate symptom in the second dosage they mention is cumulative of all symptoms, mostly deriving from myalgia (muscle soreness) and "any local symptoms," which are already both common symptoms for the yearly flu shot (why the person who gives it tends to ask you which arm you want it in). That the "Children's Health Defense" fails to mention this aspect of the study is a bit convenient. Though I'll give them a point in that many younger people with sore muscles afterwards could have been potentially asymptomatic if they just got COVID. The elderly are a different case.

>you know that the vaccine can change your dna and shit?
Bullshit it does. mRNA is a byproduct of genes and once it is created as a final product it doesn't need to interact with the nucleus or the DNA within. What the mRNA does interact with is the Ribosome, which convert the mRNA (which normally originates from expressed genes in the nucleus, but in this case is provided via the vaccine in a coating which passes the cell wall) into antigens, after which the normal immune system process breaks down the antigen, activates an immune response, and presents the antigen fragments to helper cells to be recognized by the body. Really, the most concerning aspect of mRNA vaccine is that they bypass the built-in protections of the cell to prevent foreign mRNA from being encoded, which is generally only done by pathogens; that could potentially be done to produce things besides antigens in the future.
I can provide sources, but if there are any sites you're just going to shoot down, like the citations which Wikipedia employs, please say before I waste a lot of time presenting citations that you'll just throw "fake news" at me.

You're free to not get the vaccine variants, but the justification you use to not get ignores the actual mechanism of the vaccine.

>>33167734
>you know that the vaccine can change your dna and shit
i think the sputnik vaccine might do that, but the mrna ones wont

>>33169177
>my fellow westerners
Pretty sure regularly browsing 4chan excludes you from that group. Not saying you're an Easterner or otherwise, just that no one is going to see you as a fellow member of your culture.

>>33132699
Are you white? If so, it doesn't matter. If you're not, good luck getting hired.

>>33164489
>>33164584
They're mostly looking for SEAfags

>>33147830
>3. Office culture in Japan is...intense. You are expected to show up at social gatherings even if you do not want to. And at these social gatherings people have the EXACT SAME CONVERSATIONS AGAIN AND AGAIN. I've had like 50 conversations on the power of beer to refresh you after a day's work. You have to say "good morning" every day in a very specific way, and if you don't then someone will approach you and tell you that's not how things are done at company XYZ.
I'd also mention that the hierarchical nature of Japanese offices is insane. Bouncing off of the after hours gatherings, there are so many insane rules to them that you're expected to just know and follow.

An example, for the rest of /jp/: when you clink glasses of beer together, you're never supposed to be higher up than anyone higher than you in the organization. My boss was a short guy who was also getting along in years. Meanwhile, I'm a tall Minnesotan jotun. So there were numerous times where I had to "raise" my glass by bringing it down.

This also just relates to being tall and white. People will be nervous when you're around - they're not hostile or terrified or anything like that. But you'll be making a late night run to a Lawson and the guy us really hoping you just buy things without incident. It's kind of disheatening when people look at you and go "this person is probably trouble."

>>33169853
this is your brain on CIA propaganda

>>33173932
you are right

kind of similar example would be if you are a 250lb guy of another race in the US, people will be nice to you but inside they are feeling nervous and uncomfortable and hoping you go away .

this is why the empty seat phenomenon occurs on the train, people just don't want to deal with the feeling so it is easier to just stay away

>>33116860
Yes I think about it.
I don't think it's stupid and unrealistic depending on who you are.
I mean I guess I have the money at this point and am studying the language.
The biggest problem is visa and corona-chan autism.