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Remember when daily doses weren't 80% of /jp/?

Remember when /jp/ didn't have a ton of threads that were just an image and no text?

That was nice.

ITT
Mokou is immortal, mystic eyes have no dots for her

Isn't Flandre's ability similar?

Shiki's Mystic eyes allow him to see the EVENTUAL FATED destruction of an object or entity expressed as small points on the object or entity's body and as thin glowing reddish black lines that extend from those points and crawl over the body. Mokou doesn't have that said fated destruction, because the Hourai Elixir erased that very entity. She may get hurt, allowing him to see the "lines", but because death isn't a part of her existence, the "dots" Shiki is supposed to see, aren't there.

It makes sense, too, because Yuyuko has a similar ability. And yet she was overwhelmed when she saw Mokou, searching desperately for the death in her. I would imagine Shiki would have a similar reaction as her.

Might as well turn this thread into something productive.

Let's discuss how Shiki can kill servants.

>>3276596
I think fans have overpowered Flandre a bit.
In my opinion, "Immense Destructive Power" does not equal "I think about something and it asplodes"
She just has the firepower of a battleship.

>>3276710
"Even if you roast me, I won't die. But it'll be so hot... *sob*"

Yuyuko is a bully. ;_;

>>3276724
Shiki can't kill Scrooge McDuck

>>3276710
The EVENTUAL FATED part doesn't make sense in a specific sense of time. It's more like "everything created must end", so he can see the imperfections that exist in all things and force them. Things that have no conceivable way of dying at the moment, like Arcueid under a full moon at the height of her power, don't possess a way of ending that can be identified.

Hourai Elixer removes all conceptual imperfections and recreates a form which loses its inborn trigger of termination. Hax.

>>3276770
Exactly!

That's why Keine couldn't rewrite history for Mokou. Mokou was rendered an eternal being when she drank the Hourai Elixir. Because eternity (official PMiST quote) "refers to a world with no history", Mokou was, will, and always has been, an eternal being like Kaguya.
She was never created, never destroyed...simply just always there...what a mind blower.

>>3276747
Got it

>>3276815
Don't bully Mokou. ;_;

>>3276819

>>3276734
Her FIREpower is equivalent to 4 Servants + a.

Why does Shiki have blue hair

For all you fans who'd like to see what would happen in the fight with Mokou and Flandre.

>>3276882
And then Flandre bakes for Mokou. :3

>>3276734
>"I think about something and it asplodes"
Actually, that's the definition Flandre herself gives about her power.

>>3276914
>I went "kyuu", it went "boom"

>>3276914
I think it's more like Flandre can cause a massive explosion at the target's centre. Not the assured destruction move the Shikis use.
A powerful enough being could possibly survive the blast.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as CQB, is in fact, CQC/CQB, or as I've recently taken to calling it, CQC plus CQB. CQB is not a system unto itself, but rather another gimmick of a fully functioning combat system made useful by Green Berets, SEALs and FOXHOUND comprising a full system as defined by casuals.

Many casuals use a modified version of the CQC system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of CQC which is widely used today is often called "CQB", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the CQC system, developed by Big Boss.

There really is a CQC, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. CQC is the gimmick: the part in the system that allows casuals to choke hold and send enemies falling to the ground. The gimmick is an essential part of a system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete system. CQC is normally used in combination with the CQB system: the whole system is basically CQC with CQB added, or CQC/CQB. All the so-called "CQB" users are really users of CQC/CQB

>>3276984
Pretty much. Both her Bohemian Archive and PMiSS articles explain it well enough:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Article_and_Interview:_Flandre
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Flandre_Scarlet

>>3277021
>Iku in a sneaking suit

fap fap fap

>>3276984
Makes sense.
My best guess, she looks at it and "pours her power to it". In the PMiSS, it's said to be very effective. However, the shrine maiden in the story survived.
And the assured destruction Shiki has, is only limited to only IF the target can be destroyed.

>>3277034

I'd let her pour her power into me

>>3277034
Then you have things that can rewrite conceptual truths and teach death to virtually unliving, indestructible things.

>>3277026

>Iku

That's Kanako Yasaka.

>>3277026
It's Kanako..

But now I'm imagining Iku wearing Volgin's suit.

>>3277056

No it's Suwako

>>3277046
this what you had in mind?

>>3277066
So many Metal Gear Solid characters have a Touhou counterpart.

>>3277086
Revolver Ocelot?

>>3277106

Reisen, of course.

They're both useless, and only good for their sex appeal

6 bullets, not even close enough to kill anything that holds shift for focused movement.

>>3277131
>useless

Reisen canonically beats the shit out of many of the more powerful characters in Gensokyo.

Someone just posts a pic of Shiki and a discussion thread on his eyes and Touhou is automatically spawned.
What happened /jp/?

>>3277185
Someone forgot to post the touhouhijack.jpg

>>3277034
>And the assured destruction Shiki has, is only limited to only IF the target can be destroyed.
Right, and they still put it to rather esoteric uses. Like Ryougi using it to cut Fujino's telekinesis, and saving her life. Flandre couldn't do something like that.

>>3277214
>using it to cut Fujino's telekinesis
... Please tell me you didn't actually watch/read KnK and are just repeating something you misheard. I refuse to believe someone could be so wrong about something.

All Shiki did was cure Fujino's appendicitis.

Python and Cirno? It's like a match made in heaven.

>>3277229
Ryougi Shiki can kill emanations of psychic power.

>>3277229
I meant she cut the psychic attacks she sent at her. Or whatever.
I haven't read the novels so I can't use the commonly used terms.

>>3277260
That's what I said. Or are you implying she performed surgery on her right there on the bridge?

>>3277445
Beautiful green and red spirals~

>>3276724
He can't, he would drop dead if he even tried.

/Thread

>>3277499
You can't end a thread that doesn't have an OP topic to begin with.

Even Ryougi Shiki wouldn't be able to kill Kaguya or Mokou for good. Discuss.

>>3277651
Depends on how the Hourai Elixer fucks with their origin. Not having an imprinted terminal flaw doesn't mean you're disconnected from your creation itself.

>>3277651

If it exist, she can even kill God, rewrite reality on a whim etc.

>>3277479
>green red
wut?

>>3277742
The color of Fujinon's psychic emanations as Shiki sees them. Beautiful, spiraling green and red.

>>3277717

And have sex with me.

>>3277717
There is no one definition of god in fiction anyway.

Ryogi Shiki's power is only as strong as the Akasha, there are many fictional beings and entities that are just as powerful, if not more.

>>3277697
>Elixer
Good job, anally rape that language!

>>3277771
Nothing is more "powerful" than Akasha, as Akasha is everything that exists.

>>3277780
Yes, it should be an "i". I've been working for 7 days straight with very little sleep. Go choke on a gigantic cock.

>>3277771
>only as strong as the Akasha
>only

And Akasha is the root of Everything.

So, how would Ciel with the 7th Holy Scripture do against Mokou or Kaguya? That thing was made to fight and destroy "imortals" specifically.

>>3277824
your gay

>>3277841
No, it was created to deny reincarnators. Not immortals.

It's an anti-Roa weapon.

>>3277845
Wait, what about his gay?

>>3277832
>>3277824
You fags do know there are other fictional entities that are on par and surpass that right.

Nasuverse is multiverse in scale at best.

>>3277891
ttrrroooollllleeedd

>>3277906
Entities that encompass more than a multiverse(not just have some power over it, more like BE it) and have a will are few (technically akasha does not have a will).
Kinda pointless to even care about.

>>3277906
No. You don't understand. Akasha is EVERYTHING.

All things. All things that can possibly exist. All things that will ever exist. For the Type-Moon universe, it is everything. A universal, underlying concept.

>>3277939
I think you have down syndrome

Everything in Nasuverse, which is multiverse in scale at best.

Let's just use Marvel for example. The omniverse in Marvel is far larger and contains multitudes of entities that surpass the Akasha. This is just one example

Cool, this thread became existential powerlevels!

The Nasuverse doesn't make any sense, so this entire argument is pointless. It's like arguing how all of Dr Seuss' stories fit together in one coherent world, except Dr Seuss is actually a decent writer that can get a point across without tons of superfluous dialogue.

>>3277966
Not really, no.
Akasha is pretty much Marvel's 'One-Above-All', aka the fucking company.
There are entities that embody a universe, cosmic judges, ones that can affect universes, but the Whole of What Is is always there no matter what, while even the mightiest entities that even represent abstract concepts have been challenged by mortals (and even lost).
You have a bad grasp of one or both universes in their workings.

>>3277994
The details don't have to make sense

Omnipotent entity in a larger universe > omnipotent entity in a smaller universe

>>3277994
As much sense as any fictional universe.
>>3278015
Unless it's specifically narrowed down, hard to judge the scope of universes/multiverses , and omnipotence>omnipotence is just stupid, especially in different fictional workings.

You guys think too hard.

>>3278014
>represent abstract concepts have been challenged by mortals (and even lost)

That always amused me. "Holy shit, it's Mortgage Refinancing given form! Get 'im, Avengers!"

>>3277966
>I think you have down syndrome

I think you're a moron, especially with the "Marvel multiverse" comparison, when the only reason that even exists is to explain away all the canon contradictions, and "re-imaginings" of events and origins without having to pay homage to the god of consistency.

Akasha, in Nasuverse, is the sum of all things. The universal flow.

>>3278014
Being challenged by mortals is a matter of plot and piss poor story writing, which the Comics industry is quite well known for

You're basically taking literal meanings of Akasha's canon definition to the extreme while totally downplaying the Marvel side.

Akasha is much smaller in scale compared to the higher cosmics of Marvel.

>>3278066
Actually, the solve canon contradiction by bullshit explanations. But yeah, multiverse allows both different versions and re-imaginings, and keeping the old status quo in case of a reboot.
The multiverse plays a much smaller role in Marvel than in DC, though.

>>3278072

Yeah, that's why I could never really get into modern comics, they always have some thing were the bad guy does everything correctly and the universe is on the eve of eternal darkness then Superman shows up from the future for no real reason and fucks everyone's shit up and the day is saved. Although I liked Deadpool because it was funny and usually didn't take itself too seriously.

>>3278072
No, it's not.
And mortals, as in 'finite' and not forever, not nessecarily as 'low' as humans.
And since the Marvel universe uses it, you have to accept. Since even the highest cosmic beings, bar 'One-Above-All' and maybe I'll give the Living Tribunal who is the cosmic judge, are below EVERYTHING that is and where all is from in the multiverse, which is what Akasha stands for in the TMverse, your point is moot.

>>3278072
>>3278066
Thanks for the explanation on Marvel.
All that fucking heroism and muscled hero fetishes scared me from reading too much Comics.

>>3278145
Hate to rain on your parade, but one post applies more to DC and the other is wrong and unfounded.
And I suspect your trauma may be induced by the 90's comics, it scarred most people.

>>3278107
I find it hilarious that you actually think a multiverse concept/being/entity like the Akasha is the highest level a cosmic can go.

I think you've embarrassed yourself enough.

>>3278100
lol, don't remind me. I might give Deadpool a whirl later, if it is as you said.

>>3278145
Don't get me wrong, some of it's a good read. But there's a shitload of wankery, too.

>>3278157
Something that embodies EVERYTHING that there is means there is nothing above it in that setting.
The fact that an idiot said 'Above everything, here is what represents everything+1' means nothing.
And I mostly intervened because you used Marvel which does NOT have something to support your case.

>>3278156
No problem. Like I said, I don't read much of either.

>>3278177
>in that setting

A much smaller setting compared to others. Just get over yourself, Ryoogi Shiki can't kill everything.

>>3278157
>multiverse concept/being/entity like the Akasha

It's not a being or entity. And it's quite literally not a concept by itself. It's EVERY concept in existence, that existed, that will exist, and could possibly ever exist.

It is the mass of all things as one. It does not govern. There's nothing for it to govern. It is everything. Looking into it would be like looking into the answer for everything.

Which is why magi would cream their pants to reach it. It's the Source.

>>3278162

Deadpool's hilarious, I love when he starts talking straight to the reader.

>>3278212
So, you're just a would-be troll, in the end? How disappointing.

>>3278212
...I don't even fucking care about that. Comparing omnipotence is something I'd never do, while you get bothered and hot.
But for all we know, it's a multiverse with seemingly infinite parallel ones, and at least one place/record that exists outside of time and space.
How you judged the 'smaller' setting between unmeasurable multiverses is beyond me.
You act like an anti-fanboy.
But whatever floats your boat.

>>3278238
It's also Ryougi's third personality, is it not? Meaning it can be embodied.

>>3278246
Breaking the 4th wall down is your fancy?

>>3278260
Connected to it.
That's how her eyes work, side-effect of the connection.

>>3278156
By the way, what sort of Comics these days you think might interest us /jp/ anons. Besides Deadpool.

>>3278246
>>3278272
Shit. After years of reading nothing but manga, I couldn't understand what I was reading at all.

>>3278298
>>3278298
Since I gather most people do not care much about usual cape comics, maybe European stuff and third party and a few graphic novel.
Sillage, Skydolls, , Ys: The Last man, Wanted, Fables/Jack of Fables , Watchmen, Transmetropolitan, Metabarons, a few old classics like works of Moebius or Hugo Pratt, and less known-conventional cape stories like Planetary, Nextwave, Sandman, Hitman, Punisher Max...
Then there are good stories of long-running series(Not everything Deadpool is good, some very good runs on the Flash and Green Lantern etc) , oneshots and mini series (Like Kingdom Come), and too many stuff to go through unless you give me a pointer.