/jp/ - Otaku Culture

fortune teller, virtual gorilla

>>32443091
Sorry, I'm an Onahole chad.

I'm here for the non-touhou/non-vtuber/non-general threads which means there are currently only 3 threads visible for me, including this one and that I can't give an answer for your request.

>>32443091
Time heals all.
Just give it a few months. Holo threads are not as overwhelming to completely drive everything else off the board. The rest of the threads now need more posts per day to survive though, but the situation seems to be stable now. We all live under the same roof now, we need to make peace even though the 2 userbases are really different.
My favourite 2hu is Suika. I watched some vtuber videos to see what it was all about and even though I wasn't too into it I genuinely liked Kiryu Coco.

While I did prefer the generals acting as containment threads, i still don't think this entire deal is a problem for /jp/

Also, Kokoro and FBK

>>32443091
Amelia/Reisen
They wouldn't mesh well, I don't think. Then again, they're both autistic and socially inept.

>>32443318
>Holo threads are not as overwhelming to completely drive everything else off the board.
they did that for three fucking weeks

>>32443318
>The rest of the threads now need more posts per day to survive though
Oh, you mean the 20 post difference between the first two threads and the rest of the board?
Who would have known.

My favorite 2hu is Kirisame Marisa and my favorite holo is Ninomae Ina'nis.
Both of my favorites are hardworking, cute girls with good senses of humor that are heavily associated with magic. They're both incredibly passionate about their crafts, and they're both flat, small, and have huge asses. What does this say about me as a person?

>>32443318
>I watched some vtuber videos to see what it was all about and even though I wasn't too into it I genuinely liked Kiryu Coco.
That's bizarre, Coco usually takes a long time for people to warm up to her due to the extreme voice filtering. And some never end up liking her because... well, I shouldn't tell you.

>>32443891
You're cute!

My favorite 2hu character is Reimu Hakurei and I hate kikes because of their shameless exploitation of the Holohoax, which they blew out of proportion thanks to the falsified reports that they forged in many of the post-war kangaroo courts. It has been over 60 years ago, yet you're still using it as an excuse to get a free pass on EVERYTHING: the insane manipulation of media, the lobbying, the atrocities you're committing against the Palestinians in the lands you STOLE thanks to your Jew friends in the United Kingdom.
Everyone knows what you're doing and you've been doing in these 50 years, the only reason this spiral of silence still exists today is because you'd be called a Nazi, an anti-semite, you'de be ostracized from society.
Can you imagine a Kurd terrorist being excused because 90 years ago the Ottomans attempted to kill his people? It would be inexcusable, but then again Jews have their friends in Hollywood who love to line their pockets by tugging at goyim's heartstrings.
I'm fucking sick and tired of your slimeball tactics. If you really have the support of people in the western hemisphere then are you still wasting no effort to influence and manipulate public opinione, kikes?

>>32444121
And your favorite holo?

>>32444282
The holocaust

>>32443091
/mgg/ represent here. We welcome vtuber frens

My issue isn't with the holo, my issue is the obvious crossboarders that are fans of neither that are just here to stir shit and make a mess by pretending to be hololive fans when they're actually just, forgive me for the ancient terminology, "trolling".

>>32443091
Well there was form of unity at some point, but it kinda got ruined by giving tourists free reign.

>>32443891
>and have huge asses
Huge ass isnt canon in touhou. Only 2 character canonically have huge asses marisa is neither.

Listen here you little shit I don't want to coexist with 2hushitters, I just want my /hlgg/ thread to shitpost in, /hlg/ to contain antis and all those crappy fucking split threads to be abayo'd by the meidos.

>>32444831
well canonically almost none of the 2hus have any features so it would be fucking boring to have 150 characters with same body type anyway, so fuck canon regarding body features.

>>32443091
I don't really know much of anything about touhou. I'll just say Marisa because I like cute witches. For hololive I'd say korone because I enjoy watching her play retro games

>>32444710
No one likes them, and they get bored eventually.

FUCK THE KIKES
FUCK THE JANNY
FUCK VTUBERS

>>32444943
still boards quality will deterioate as long as there is that window to people to shitpost, no matter that most of them get bored, there always be people who will use that window as long as mods keep it open.

Youmu and Korone.

>>32443900
>why wouldn't people like coco? She's one of the most popular members of hololive.

>>32444710
>>32444943
They are not pretending, you are delusional. Many Holotards are not even crossboarders, a lot come from youtube, twitter and twitch and they come with their own gay jargon and culture like whatever the fuck is a "poggers", they are not trolling at all.

>>32445350
holy shit go outside

>>32445350
How many layers of self loathing?

i believe hololive belongs on an e celeb board

saku and aya

The individual vtuber threads somehow manage be even worse than the generals, which I didn't think was possible. Just goes to show things always can and will get worse.

>>32445350
I don't know how anyone can seriously suggest such a huge surge in users won't mean a ton of shit being dragged in with them in the first place, even if hypothetically those users weren't coming from outside 4chan. This isn't just some new fad that resulted in a boost of user activity. /jp/ has gone from one of the slower boards to one of the fastest, regularly beating /a/ in ppm. But it's not surprising to me that the mods see this as acceptable. After all, these are the retards that came up with the brilliant idea of moving threads between boards, something that benefits nobody and without exception results solely in a fat turd being dropped on some unsuspecting board without warning.

>>32445817
>his isn't just some new fad that resulted in a boost of user activity. /jp/ has gone from one of the slower boards to one of the fastest, regularly beating /a/ in ppm. But it's not surprising to me that the mods see this as acceptable.
mods literally don't care whether boards get bigger or smaller and it's not clear why they should

>>32445935
"The quality of posts is important blah blah". The mods don't care about anything at all and if you need proof of this you should check out the DJT.

>>32446009
>check out the DJT.
I didn't even recognize the place after 1000

>>32444831
Consider this: Marisa's ass is powerful enough to graze danmaku and guard crush foes.

>>32443318
I want holotourists to fuck off. The sooner an e-celeb board is created so /jp/ can return to the status quo the better.

>>32443318
>Holo threads are not as overwhelming to completely drive everything else off the board

When did /jp/ get so aggressive? What happened to "take is easy"?
I just wanted to talk about my oshi and my favorite 2hus.

>>32446808
Take it easy doesn't apply when your board is being invaded by a huge influx of outsiders eroding all that you once knew.

I wonder how many posts in this thread are falseflags?

>>32446839
That already happened when /jp/ started hosting 3D idols though.
And let's be real, Flanfly died years ago.

>>32446874
I made every post in this thread.

>>32443091
fuck off vtuber scum
seeking acceptance on our board is just another nail in the coffin of /jp/

you will never be accepted here

>>32446808
You want to discuss niche topic things that the /v/ermin don't care about?
fuck you, go away to page 10 kudasai it is time for aqua thread amelia thread hologeneral thread hologlobal thread holostars thread botan thread watame thread fubuki thread miko thread luna thread haato thread niji thread indie thread coco thread aqua thread v2 korone thread hologen thread gawr thread shiina thread pekora thread lamy thread

>>32446951
99% of hololive posters would be okay with all of these getting banned except the two main ones.

>>32446602
And your status quo is... what? Besides /idol/, /onahole/, /djt/ and the /vn/ threads, the catalog was just one inane touhou thread after another.
What's the difference with an status quo of inane touhou threads AND inane hololive threads?

>>32446808
WE WERE ALWAYS
ALWAYS
AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS OFFBOARDERS

in order to take it easy we can't coexist with crossboarders in the same environment
could one take it easy on /v/?
could one take it easy on /b/?
the answer is an obvious no

The continued easiness of /jp/ citizens requires the establishment of an easy place in which /jp/sies can take it easy in without the meddling of uneasy peoples. If this place is flooded with those who do not take it easy, then how could one expect us to take it easy?
holofags have been rude to us and constantly disrespect our board cultures and gloat in our suffering.
why should we ever accept them

You are an uneasy enabler because you allow these horrid people on our board and see nothing wrong with it. Thus you should be attacked too.

>>32447195
>holofags have been rude to us and constantly disrespect our board cultures and gloat in our suffering
ogey

>>32447167
>Besides /idol/, /onahole/, /djt/ and the /vn/ threads, the catalog was just one inane touhou thread after another
Utter proof that you are not from this board and do not understand /jp/

There are hundreds of different sorts of topics to discuss on /jp/ and even if they don't currently have an active thread at this moment it doesn't meant that said interests and hobbies don't exist or aren't present on this board.

Look to the archives to find more wonderful /jp/ topics.

>>32447167
/jp/ was literally created as a 2hu containment board you nigger. And there are plenty of other niche threads like the DMM threads and Elona which are now continuously getting pushed off the board by ethot spam because the tourists literally cannot contain themselves for a single second. There is no reason to simply sit down and accept getting overrun by a horde of braindead redditors because "b-b-but you guys were just as bad we're not ruining anything"

>>32447315
There’s nothing to prevent a unique thread topic from existing now, you autismo.

>>32446526
Marisa has a bigger hitbox so she arguably has a bigger ass
More ass to graze with, da ze

Until hiro gives us a board and stops making /v/ spinoffs go deal with it you cucks

>>32447354
Aside from being pushed off the board almost immediately under the combined mass of 2hu and vtuber threads.

>>32447383
I'm kind of surprised he hasn't. He was the one that came up with the gay 4chan vtuber idea, didn't he? Even though that amounted to nothing in the end. I guess he doesn't think you fags will make him enough money to warrant the effort.

>>32447492
That and he supposedly hates them because of NND or some shit. At this point I think /v/ might be one of the more profitable boards

>>32447315
Yes? Then just make threads about those topics, and the inane threads will get pushed off, as always. Most of the retards who claim oldfag just do it as if it was a woman card. It's pathetic.

>>32447319
>There is no reason to simply sit down
Blame the retarded mods who decided to terminate the only mod who actually controlled the spillover. Now, it's either that a new board gets created, which brings even more attention to /jp/ from the other boards, or the board endures until the tourists die off as they always do and the new status quo is enforced.

>>32447492
Wasn't the issue mainly that nobody wanted to be the "4chan" vtuber? Can't blame them, even the vtuber that got her start on 4chan doesn't openly talk about us for obvious reasons.

>>32447195
>WE WERE ALWAYS
>ALWAYS
>AGGRESSIVE TOWARDS OFFBOARDERS
It was so aggressive that no new blood was ever able to enter and the board was left with a bunch of killjoys that refused to accept even the slightest of changes that deviated from board culture from 2008. And most of those fags weren't even there at the time, they just enforced it because everyone else did.

The board became a stale circlejerk with the same "WICH 2HU WUD U FUG" and imagedumps dedicated to each 2hu, with the only saving grace being some of the generals that were actually nice.

The fact that it became the designated dumping ground of the most cancerous fanbase of the 2020's is nothing but poetic, well deserved justice.

>>32447383
Why is it that all Luna posts are either shitposts or interesting posts?

>>32447557
Isn't that the case for a lot of shit that came from this site? I remember that was apparently the case for notch and minecraft

>>32447557
It doesn't make much sense to care about being associated with us these days. Most of 4chan is just reddit but you can say nigger and only get banned for it some of the time.

>>32447383
Even when the citizens of 4channel cried out for an e-celeb board, Hiroshigook didn't listen. /jp/ which is one of the last holdout boards from the aggression of outsiders and uncultured swine is now under siege and its very existence is threatened. Still he will not listen.
>>32447538
>>32447645
Just ignoring it never works. It has NEVER worked. In 1-2 years time /jp/ will be even more unrecognisable than it already is and will just become another /v/. What is wrong with wanting to be unchanging? We have already seen what happens to other boards (/a/) which surrender its culture to newfaggots who refuse to adhere. It would be a tragedy to go that way.

>>32447656
>>32447654
I'm pretty sure they removed that message when notch sold the property and they scrubbed his influence.
Either way, there's a difference between giving 4chan nudges and winks and actually being officially associated with 4chan.

>>32447538
>Most of the retards who claim oldfag just do it as if it was a woman card
You're the pathetic one here, my man

>>32443232
This
All of us who come here for actual /jp/ discussions and not for 2hu always saw 2hu threads as the hollow spam that it is, aside from the occasional topical stuff like gameplay threads, which is a drop in the sea of shit
Watching 2huposters sperg out and panic over Hololive's popularity has been hilarious, trying to be like "w-well fellow /jp/ regulars we have to do something about this, our board is being stolen!"
Meanwhile we'll be just fine and we'll keep having our niche threads, Hololive spam is the same as 2hu spam, same shit different waifus

>>32447696
>newfaggots who refuse to adhere
But we do? /hlgg/ would rather stay in one thread and delete the other ones. As I said, blame the stupid mods.

>>32447492
He wanted someone to voice his vtuber FOR FREE.
Since just janitors are willing to put up with those garbage working conditiins, he found no one, and the project got canned.

>>32447383
>>32447696
hiros dead in the fucking water he hasn't done shit in months

absolutely useless unless we make him money

>>32447788
that's absolutely pathetic but I believe it
he's scum

>>32447793
Isn't he just running 4chan to avoid being canned in elevenland?

>>32447788
Damn, I knew the man was a greedy fucker but this is above and beyond my expectations.

>>32447788
>FOR FREE
Imagine doing this.

>>32447859
He doesn't interact with the community and his mods are too busy ERPing each other to actually do their "jobs" half the time. Even the end of moots reign looks like a golden age compared to this.

>>32447779
Fucking this, I'm almost certain /hlgg/ and /hlg/ account for the majority of chuuba-related posts, and for sure 99.9% of non-retarded, non-doxxing discussion. Just delete all the other threads, that's where all the offboarders and newfags go.

How exactly did SA lead to 4chan anyway? Wasn't it just moot asking a question on if people would use it?

>>32447977
You’re shitposting. A lot of times the generals suck for discussion and trying to discuss something like AHG is not something you want to do in any general. Please die.

>>32448029
moot wanted to copy Futaba. Asked for support in SA, got nothing, made it himself and launched it. Technically, SA is the 4chan's dad, since ADTRW was the only thing they had for anime containment, so 4chan was welcomed.

>>32448029

>>32448065
>source: dude, trust me
It's actually great for on-topic discussion.

>>32448065
Please don't reply to obvious bait.

>>32448065
Yes it's shitposting. Do you prefer one or two threads of shitposting, or literally hundreds of threads of shitposting? Are you saying there's anything of value happening in the split threads? Because I know there isn't, if you think there is you're the problem.

>>32448123
>>32448139
>>32448153
Who do I believe?

>>32448251
Let's see, the ones who want to contain our hololive autism to a pair of manageable threads, or the guy who is okay with every thread on /jp/ dying to make space for his slow "roboco dox #4" thread?

>>32448306
Extreme hyperbole. Also a falseflag.

>>32446950
kek

For what it's worth I agree with OP.

Hololive has a lot of strong connections with Touhou, lots of the fan music talents love them and have done work with them and in terms of cultural import hololive is breaking into the west using roads that touhou paved. That the fandoms don't recognize each other as having similar souls is honestly weird.

The difference in whether a girl is acting behind the puppet or Zun is writing the fiction isn't wildly different.

>>32448365
Not a falseflag, I literally only come here for /hlgg/, never played Touhou. I'm just annoyed at how shit all the split threads are and how easily it could be avoided if the meidos just did their fucking job. As for hyperbole, currently a quarter of the catalog is vtuber threads, and that fraction is increasing. Vtubers' popularity is increasing while 2hu and most /jp/ topics are niche. Without strong pushback from the moderators, they'll be pushed out, plain and simple, it's a story as old as the Internet.

>>32448544
Basically, this.

>>32448557
>hlgg/, never played Touhou.
Then you’re an off board newfag that doesn’t even know why I said you can’t discuss AHG in a general without attracting schizos. Opinion discarded.

>>32443158
>fortune teller
is kill
>virtual gorilla
kanata?

>>32448636
Wait, so you want the board to have dozens of hololive threads?

>>32448636
But schizos are unavoidable nowadays, no matter the topic and thread.

>>32448557
>if the meidos just did their fucking job
A meido was sacked because of doing that job.

>>32448659
>hololive
Retard.

>>32448706
Anon, read back your posts, you've legitimately not explained your position. I think we're in agreement, you just jumped to being an asshole instinctively.

>>32448659
>>32448706
/hlgg/ here, it's understandable. To someone who doesn't care about the topic, the most prominent one on the anglosphere is hololive.

>>32448776
And more relevant, in terms of /jp/ the vast majority of the split threads are hololive related. In usual there'll be one or two threads for some indies at most.

>>32448557
That's the thing, shsrknigger was doing his job (even if it was a shitty one) but still got canned because of schizos, /qa/ and literal /v/ mods like uwu forcibly changing shit

>>32448852
Why do people who'd be bullied off the board have so much power over it? Those faggots seemed unbearably retarded from the IRC screens I saw.

>>32448827
There's a general for japanese indie vtubers.

>>32448913
Hiro doesn't care, so the retarded mods use 4chan as their place of power, and anyone who doesn't follow hte agenda gets canned. Yadda yadda that one experiment about nazism in an university and the Stanford Prison one.

>>32448913
>Why do people who'd be bullied off the board have so much power over it?
>Why does a mod have so much power
Read what you just wrote.

>>32448913
Unironically a tale old as time. Honestly most of the mods who are there were around when most was still running the place and they fucking hated him, at this point I'm surprised hiro didnt just prune them and replace these fags with his own cronies

>>32449074
There is but have you seen /vyt/? That shithole has actual schizos, and not the meme kind that the hololive and nijissnji generals have. It was so fucking bad most of the indie vtuberfags just made separate generals for shit pikamee, etc.

>>32448913
It's just them enforcing the rules as they exist. There's no rule stating everything in /jp/ has to be forced into a general except touhou.

>>32449171
If they don’t know about /vyt/ then they’re either posturing or false flagging.

>>32449171
Would you mind elaborating a bit? I'm really not familiar with /vyt/

>>32443891
>What does this say about me as a person?
You're probably a virgin

>>32449298
He just told you everything.

>>32449171
Well, since Pikamee is in a company, I think the VOMSfags just remake their general every time they have something important to talk about, but as of now, there's no VOMS general.
>That shithole has actual schizos
That's why there's "Virtual Youtubers" and "Independent and Small Company Virtual Youtubers". I think VOMS is also in the last one, and the first one serves as containment for the schizos.

>>32447195
take meds schizo

>>32447723
No no, he might have a point in there somewhere. People just saying they've been here forever and therefor must be listened to and respected. Also demanding protections for their threads to exist over other people's interest threads.

All of that might make sense for like, reddit or tumblr, but 4chan? Land of "No one has to give a shit about your opinion?" Seems weird

>They didn't even bother to explain to Ame how the game works

>>32450253
I don't know, bending to the will of unwashed masses of newfags sounds pretty reddit as well.

>>32450253
Anon, 4chan IS Reddit. Don't you know?

>>32450253
Respect your senpais.

>>32444831
Which touhous have huge asses? Patchouli and Yuyuko?

>>32450827
You’re a newfag.

>>32450832
Yuyuko for sure

>>32450827
>2005 and 2007
>senpais
Newfagchama, your google reps...

>>32450871
And you're a tourist. Shoo, shoo!

>>32450995
>Didn’t deny it

Influxes of newfags result in
- hostility
- constant arguing

Surely the mods aren't so ignorant that they thought we would just get on on our knees, face down ass up, and accept this major fuckup? There must be some other reason as to why they haven't said anything yet, right?

>>32451179
Literally no one cares other than the users of the board, none of which are mods.

>>32450832
Junko, Hina Kagiyama, Yuyuko, Patchouli and Ran Yakumo

>>32451116
Truly immigration is a mistake

>>32451322
>Hina
You're on crack.

>>32447696
>ignoring it never works
Another thing I said years ago proven correct.

>>32451508
Who the fuck are you? Why did you make this post like anyone gives a shit

No one is at fault here. Except for the mods. This entire situation happened because of their actions.

And they have the nerve to say. "Give it a few days, it will calm down" after they are the ones that pushed this shit. And it's only gotten worst.

>>32451692
>”Give it a few days, it will calm down”
The individual that said this was executed. It is assumed by top narratives that it is because they said it.

>>32451322
If Hina had a big bootie she'd be thrown off balance whenever she spins.

>>32451948
She uses her massive ass as a counterweight, granting her increased momentum.

>>32450832
Patchouli is a skinny anaemic with asthma, the idea of patche having a plump fertile body is a complete fan fabrication.

>>32451948
low center of gravity is important

COOL SHIT HIROYUKI OUGHT TO CONSIDER:

- /chu/ - Virtual Youtubers
- /ido/ - Idols
- Ban generals
- Ban imagedump threads
- Encourage self-moderation
- Move garbage threads to /trash/ instead

>>32452078
It absolutely is, but you have to admit that her outfit really works with that body type. Stripes are really good at accentuating curves.

>>32452363
Honestly you could probably just combine those two boards into Idols/Virtual Idols and it'd work just as well, if not better.

>>32452363
I like the idea of an experimental board with futaba-style self moderation.

>>32452459
I don't really know what their stance on 3DPD is, so I decided to keep those two seperated.

>>32452528
3D is PD, as always.
Retarded doxxers, >>>/out/ of /jp/.
Dunno how /idol/ would feel sharing the board with vtubers, though.

>>32443091
truce is the best thing we can ask for

>>32447743
Ah, but touhou threads more often don't have anything new happening too, so they are slightly worse.

>>32443091
My favorite 2hou is probably mamizou and my favorite hololive would probably be mori

>>32451692
agreed

>>32452423
Yup.

>>32451879
It's all so underhanded as well. If this was another board there would as at least be a locked sticky about what is now permissible on the board, like they did with /vr/. Or how hiroshit literally said that wrestling was okay on /asp/ and the board changed its title right after. These is no "sports" there to speak of there anymore.

Instead they just kiss eachother on irc. Its a very slimy way of doing things

>>32452554
>3D is PD, as always.
It doesn't seem to me that most vtuber fags care that much. I've seen a concerning amount of 2D/3D crossover from them, talking about the people behind the poorly animated model and whatnot. Not just the doxxer either. Do they even maintain their character that thoroughly? Seems like it would be impossible to fake it consistently for such extended periods of time.

>>32452975
its the sad reality of this site anyways: theres no care at all, and its all neglect

>>32452975
Because it was never an official rule. There's no point giving public attention to a mistake like that

>>32443091
Still waiting on clownpiece/Polka art

>>32452983
Thats the main thing why vtuber, holowhatever will never click with. Its bad that they have to use streaming on kuso sites with kuso people as a form of getting there content out there.

And if just want to watch something cute then I just watch sol anime again and read manga. It doesn't have all that garbage baggage usually.

>>32453497
Click with me*

>>32447743
That's disingenuous, 2hufag thread were never as fast as the holospam which push a lot of thread to their death. I think it's even worse considering 95% of the vtuber shitposting is holo despite there being other corp/communities.

>>32444872
I wish I could refute this.
Please stay in your containment thread, we will stick to ours

>>32443091
What dominant culture did the 2hus supplant?

>>32447696
>In 1-2 years time /jp/ will be even more unrecognisable than it already is
this is like a modern italian complaining that italy becomes less like the roman republic every day

>>32456843
2hu was there at the inception of the board, it was an exodus from /a/

>>32443091
>simply post your favorite 2hu and your favorite vtuber in this thread
Are you happy now?

Sorry but we will never unite with twitch chat tourists. This holoshit fad will die out eventually.

>>32451692
>No one is at fault here.
Yet you fags still create holoteen threads every day

>>32451059

fuck off, /jp/ is already plagued with enough vtuber sewage clogging it up every fucking day
at least idolshitters stay in their containment threads

>>32446993
You know what happen to the last meido who tried to ban on topic posts, right?

>>32446993
Suisei thread died by itself simply because we prefer to post in the main thread.

>>32449298
Its a general for virtual youtubers, but it kinda became the mix of groomers who hate vtubers with more than 100k subs and 1k viewers, and tribalistiv antis/schizos who are fanatics of their vtuber group, mainly from Nijisanji and Hololive. I'm glad Idolbu dont have a presence overseas, otherwise we would have a third one in the tribalism.

If you were Hiroyuki, would you give a shit about moots legacy? Would you even consider touhou board culture or attribute any ownership to it? Would you give a shit about touhou threads at all? If so, why? Given his position I don’t see why he should care. I wouldn’t.

These metathreads are worse than all vtuber and idol threads combined and multiplied by a fuckton.

>>32451059
>Gets called a tourist
>Posts holotrash

Like pottery

>>32471792
Green and redditspacing.

kill yourselves, youtube faggots
stop shoving you pirate whore with touhou, imbeciles. you will never be doujin.

>>32467746
I don't understand the mentality of a crook, so I don't know what I'd do if I was one. But as I am, I wouldn't take over a website if I intended to just let it rot. Moot's legacy was being a wishy-washy faggot who did all kinds of retarded shit and was actively antagonistic towards /jp/ more often than not. He was a fag on an astronomic level, but somehow he was still less bad than Hiro.

>>32449298
vyt was a home to unashamed schizos trying to groom low view indies, a sperg that hates a vtuber so much that they would constantly shit up the thread. Retards that would use it as a dumping ground to constatly shit on the other's company. I don't blame them for leaving as soon as they could.

>>32448251
90% of the threads related to Hololive are trash that should be deleted. The only ones that use them are tourists and crossboarders. Keep the generals, and let the 2hus go back to doing whatever the fuck they were doing.

Hello Touhou friends.
I would like to learn more about your culture, but I dont know where to start, since the games are not really the main focus.
What do I read or watch or lurk?

>>32474143
Just go on exhentai and start fapping, you'll slowly start absorbing touhou culture naturally.

>>32474143
Hold shift for focused movement.

>>32473629
>let the 2hus go back to doing whatever the fuck they were doing.
How about no. I think it’s time to for them to have their own containment thread.

>>32474193
It already exists. If only they would use it.
>>319970441

>>32474143
Play EoSD first.

>>32474143
>since the games are not really the main focus.
Very subtle. This might be the best post in the thread.

>>32474187
Actually sound advice.

>>32474929
Sound advice for becoming a secondary faggot, but I suppose it's the most one can hope for from a niwaka.

>>32474143
Play the games. No, really. At least try them. They are fun and are a decent skill challenge.
I think the best way to get into the rest is just find something fanmade you like and start consuming it. There are plenty of high quality music arranges, doujin videogames, h and non-h doujins, to start immersing yourself into the world, lore and characters. If it clicks, or course. No need to force yourself to like them, but if you do, then there is a huge, neverending mountain of content to consume. That is some of the biggest appeal, regardless of what you like, there is something 2hu related out there similar to that.
Also this board is fucking awful to get into 2hu discussion. People here constantly have a stick in their ass and if they see something they don't like they go on autistic rants all the time. That has been the norm since before your bunch even got here, by the way. I can only recommend the niche generals and maybe some draw thread where people are having fun instead of mindlesy waifuposting for once. What I'm trying to say is, if you want to discuss 2hu, this is not the place. It's stale and full of people that have closed their hearts to anything they are not familiar with. I've had better 2hu threads on /tg/, /a/ and even /v/ than the average /jp/ 2hu thread. The only place worse that I can think of is the /vg/ thread.

>>32474143
Watch marine stream touhou, she’s an expert on it

>>32475033
I already told you man, I'm not reading official touhou material until I can read Japanese fluently and can enjoy it as it was meant to be enjoyed.

>>32475111
/tg/ touhou threads are shit. /v/ threads can be good though.

I didn't realize until recently that I've been exposed to Touhou since 2013 through their songs in a certain rhythm game. I've always loved music from groups like Undead Corporation, BUTAOTOME, IOSYS, Tatsh, FELT, Alice's Emotion, Redalice, Demetori, Halozy, meramipop, senya, Shihori, Shibayanrecords and a bunch more. I want to get into the games now and explore more.

>>32474143
Stop watching holoshit and abandon it's fandom
Play the games first and slowly get into touhou
Lurk more and you will find out more about /jp/'s culture

You can't force us to like your e-celeb streamer shit. Anyone that wants to unite with holoshitters and crossboarders deserves a bullet.

stop fighting

>>32443091
No. Fuck you. You and your corporate masters ruined the last place I had to call home. You have mocked, degraded, and monetized otaku culture into just another viral product designed to hit the absolute lowest common denominator. I thought gacha was the death knell but I could not have been more wrong. No, you and your kind are the absolute cancer. You people don't even have a creative bone in you, all you do is consoom ravenously. Your memes are nothing more than appropriations of content which came before, made by people who actually thought independently. Every post you make is absolutely brainless and completely devoid of insight or even an attempt to be insightful. You exist entirely on the shoulders of creators who came before you. The anime designs which your vtubers ripped off. The games they play. The idol industry they ape. The social media platforms which relentlessly shill your godawful shit using algorithms designed by and for massive corporations. Absolutely nothing about your appeal is organic, it is a synthetic mockery of actual art. And at the helm of this, is disgusting 3dpd whores who pretend to be something actually pure. Placed in art next to 2d perfection, as if they were somehow on equal standing. All of it is a fucking charade, an act, and not even a good one. It's escapism for people who absolutely suck at escapism. Fake normalfags. All of you should fuck off, I sincerely hope you have miserable lives from now until the day you die. You brainless somachuggers are the reason the world is brown, ugly, and materialist. You deserve to reap what you sowed.

>>32478805
The old /jp/ is waiting for you.

>>32478805
Implying that Touhou is anything but derivative.

>>32479563
Don’t even try to compare to touhou you fucking retard. Touhou is a game. You can bitch about secondaries all you want, but that’s what it is. I don’t give a shit how derivative it fucking it is or how similar whatever random pc98 girl looks to whatever even more random manga ZUN read - it will always have more value than watching a stupid whore consoom some other person’s game. Even the shittiest, tropiest touhou fangame has more artistic value than a vtuber stream. It’s not even close.

>>32478805
This.
The war with holofags shall never end.

>>32479676
The designs weren’t just copied. They were TRACED. The gameplay was designed with other games in mind. Copied. The story is full of unironic Jojo references. Even the setting has been lifted. None of it new or all that creative.

>>32478805
B-but my favorite e-whore played 2hu too!! Peak otaku culture right there!! You must like holoshit if some old 2hu creator likes it too, r-right??

>>32479804
Who cares. ZUN is a hack.

>>32479792
You’re talking about the earliest games in the series that ZUN rarely ever revisits. And as for the jojo references, so what? It’s literally a few lines of dialogue. Nobody’s playing EoSD for the fucking story anyways

>>32479882
It’s all derivative shit. All of it.

>>32479843
I bet he doesn't even like it. Holoteens think he's a big holofag for getting invited into marine's stream.

>>32478805
Preach brother! These infidels deserve nothing.

>>32479903
Technically everything is derivative if you think about it. If we judged art by how derivative it was the entire field of art appreciation wouldn’t exist.
Originality is impossible, all we can do is use our own effort and individuality to make something which rearranges elements in a way that’s beautiful and reaches a higher order of concepts through said combinations.
Vtuber streams have hardly any effort and the only resultant appeal it has is to the absolute basest human emotions - the desire for companionship and the fear of isolation.

>>32480030
>Originality is impossible
Wrong. It’s impossible for ZUN.

tell me again why the holoshits dont just get their own boards

2hubros had this one first

>>32480094
Because gookmoot doesn't care and the mods are retards.

>>32480084
Go ahead and name literally one piece of media that is not derivative

>>32480154
Read a book, /v/irgin.

>>32480247
Alright, I’ll read The Divine Comedy. Has good reviews.
...What the fuck? All these characters are just historical figures, or are directly from greek/roman works of media. The setting is entirely based off judeo-christian lore as well. What the fuck, I guess Dante’s a hack. This is trash, he’s completely incapable of originality.

>>32478805
Amen to that brother. These squatters on our board do not belong and never will.

>>32480333
Correct.

>>32480138
If he reckons it'll net him more money he will. I think he'll make one this year as holotrash continues to pull in more westoid normfags and get popular so it's just a matter of time. You can't escape this shit whether it's /jp/ /a/ or even /ck/.

>>32474390
Kek.

>>32443091
As a fan of both, coexistence would certainly be nice.
Favourite 2hu is the perfect and elegant maid.
Fav chuuba... Okayu, though Marine and Pekora are close seconds.

>>32447195
Oh my, it's yukkuri hitler.

>>32448679
>>32448852
Sharkmeido didn't do a shit except enforcing his personal rules and bias. You newfags don't even know that Hololive threads used to have probably the best moderation on this site. When threads used to be slower meidos were fucking merciless pruning chains of shitposting, banning you for stuff like LOOK AT HER GO etc etc. Even during Holocaust and Aloe drama they were pretty active but that changed with that moron and global because the thread at least doubled this board speed.

>>32478805
Truth be told.
>materialist
I don't know how it got to that point but the answer is the same- profit.
Nobody knows how to make anything anymore. If it's not for profit, good luck. That fun project won't come to fruition.
It echos in modern videogames as well but I digress. Everyone already knows what they were back then compared to now. The only thing worse is seeing them attempt to be something they're not through bad development decisions.

The problem is that companies take something that seemed fun years ago and monetize it. There is no fun to be had in that when none of it is authentic.
Anyone can look at an 11 year old video. Anyone can react to it.
Anyone can play a popular videogame.
Anyone can talk about a controversial topic.
Anyone can say or do something stupid to get people talking.
A company embedded on pushing such content is no different. It's the most cookie cutter shit I have seen and a common path for people to take to get more attention.
People stick to what they were doing before because the alternatives either don't peak their interest, just aren't as good as people say, or aren't worth the time. You can get someone to watch something, but you can't force them to like it.

>>32481144
Post-consumerism is the name for it. It’s fotm multiplayer trash keeps blowing up too. We’ve reached the point where the experience of enjoying something with friends/lovers is a higher valued commodity than making something actually intrinsically enjoyable.

>>32481198
So that companies which manufacture this parasocial experience are massively more successful than companies which don’t.
Gacha, is arguably of the same bent. The games themselves are absolutely boring as shit. The only thing that makes it worth it are the girls slobbering over your dick that you can fantasize about going on adventures with. Though at least gacha is a game, albeit an awful one.

Are you morons seriously still going? This is embarrassing. Sad even.

>>32481295
I know, how dare people have an actual conversation. On an imageboard no less, oh the horror.

>>32481295
What are you doing on 4chan?

Hololive global was a mistake. Not even the old timers like the new trash flooding in and shitting up the already smelly community. Same with /jp/. The Hologlobal threads are some god awful stuff.

>>32481502
Some of them literally came from reddit or twitter. Hololive is only the beginning. New cancerous fads will emerge in the 2020s

>>32481469
Watching you fags shit your pants right now.

>>32481622
first week?

>>32481654
This is sad.

>>32481295
If you don't understand the reason why actual board regulars are unhappy then you've clearly outed yourself as a tourist-kun and don't belong here. Both those who despise Hololive due to what it actually is and those who like it but understand the clear problem here are in agreement.

>>32481860
Why don’t you agree yourself off a skyscraper you tribalist ape.

>>32443318
Never. Fuck vtumors.

>>32482043
Damn you seem butt devastated. Better donate to your favorite e-whore to fix your mood!

>>32482314
Why don’t finish transitioning and become a statistic.

>>32482368
Not even a /jp/ rebuttal.
You're not from here.

>>32481860
>due to what it actually is
>like it but understand the clear problem
the brainwashing is complete

>>32482368
Learn English.

>>32482380
Tribe good. Me beat chest. Dance around okuu farts. No need think. Tribe strong.

>>32482524
Yes, some aspects of tribalism are good. Like the ability to uniformly reject invaders and maintain community standards. If you think tribalism is some universal evil, you are almost certainly underage. Please learn to show respect for a community that you enter. This used to be common etiquette online, I have no idea why you so heavily resist it.

>>32482871
>Please learn to show respect for a community that you enter
I do not EVER want to be one of you. Do not ask again.

>>32482922
That’s rather tribalist of you to say

>>32482922
>I do not EVER want to be one of you.
Then why are you here.

>>32483231
To discuss my interests and think for myself. If you can learn anything from 4chan, it’s that.

Shit, can we appreciate for a moment that for once in this godforsaken website's history there seems to be a consensus over the problem (Tons of vtuber threads), its solution (Delete the split threads) and its cause? (Retarded faggot mods who don't give a shit about the board, and probably hate it) There's a couple devil's advocates and contrarians in here, but by and large there seems to be some agreement over this. That's pretty amazing.

>>32483347
>To discuss my interests
Nah I see you crying about 2hu posts all the time. Maybe change your filenames the next time you post on the jay.

>>32484285
Unga bunga brainwash good

>>32481295
As I said before, I just made this thread to post my oshi and my favorite hu.

>>32482922
Then fuck off from this board.

>>32484850
Go back to your containment thread on /vg/.

>>32484905
It appears you have forgotten why this board was made.

>>32484925
Nobody ever gave you the keys, faggot. You’re a poser.

>>32484007
And you know what will happen don't you? Hiroshigook won't listen since he barely exists. Mods won't listen because it would cut into their private ERP time. Holotrash threads will continue to multiply as more and more tourists and outsiders flood /jp/ and push anything that isn't Holotrash away to the side and kami forbid should there be a gura karaoke or festival or some "major" event which will make the board unusable for everyone else. Even if some Holofaggots understand they are just as helpless as the rest of us.
>>32484925
He's a very obvious tourist straight out of /v/. All he needed was to be told to fuck off (done) and then ignored.

>>32485071
How blackpilled. You're right though.

I don't understand the logic behind the "ZUN appeared on a stream therefore he loves hololive!" argument. It's like saying that if ZUN likes football and trainspotting, then I too must like it. Same goes for former Touhou content creators. Saying that since they are bandwagoners, then I must become one as well.

I get that most people who post that are just trolling, but there are probably some who genuinely think those are legit arguments.

>>32443091
>holos and youkai may coexist in harmony
Who Killed A. Watson?

>>32460167
>>32488337
Do one with the japanese whores instead
they are the reason why this shit is here

>>32487932
Not only that but these hololive people are not even touhou fans so it doesn't matter what ZUN thinks of them

>>32489274
LLC / MS : Normal 1cc
EoSD / IN / PoFV / SA / UFO / DDC / LoLK : Hard 1cc
PCB / MoF / TD / HSiFS / WBaWC : Lunatic 1cc
Every Windows game : Extra 1cc
StB / DS : Any%
ISC / VD : 100%
SWR / Soku / GFW / HM / ULiL / AoCF : Normal 100%

I love every Hololive girl.
My oshi is Amelia.
Kill yourself.

>>32489428
Don't care faggot

>>32443091
fuck off vtumors

>>32461747
>twitch chat tourists
You're thinking of VShoujo.

>>32443091
Miko and Suika

>>32443189
based

>>32489274
>>32489428
My oshi is Ina!

>>32496565
>>32489428
Damn holofags can do all *THAT*!? What the fuck, ewhores are otaku culture now!

>>32502137
they always were, the disapproval of a few retards who thinks /jp/ circa 2015 is the pinnacle of otaku culture notwithstanding

>>32502210
Yeah, touhoufags are just seething that they are irrelevant now because 2dpd has been replaced with the superior 3d

>>32489428
>>32496565
Why do you think this is relevant? The whores themselves do not like touhou or otaku culture, and no, them acting like they do does not change that.

>>32502282
>The whores themselves do not like touhou or otaku culture, and no, them acting like they do does not change that.
This is an unfalsifiable religious belief you have that isn't based in anything even remotely tethered to reality.

>>32502302
The fact that they are making tons of money from retarded modern day consumers is enough proof

>>32502282
You don't like touhou or otaku culture.

>>32502765
Prove it.

>>32502798
>Prove it.
the ironing

>>32502278
fucking based

>>32502282
see >>32502302
I'll just add that until you prove us otherwise, (You) are the one who couldn't care less about Touhou.

>>32502278
>superior 3d
bait.

>>32502282
>The whores themselves do not like touhou
https://youtu.be/HHdWVCny-PY
https://youtu.be/3vFLD9kS6as
https://youtu.be/_W49HD5qHxE
Also, if I'm not mistaken both Marine and Mori were involved in the doujin community before becoming vtubers.

>>32502765
I don't like Touhou or otaku culture, since I was never here for Touhou and otaku culture has been bastardized by the ewhores this thread is about. This doesn't change the fact that neither do your ewhores. It just makes me a lot like them, so you should donate to my onlyfans.

Honestly, I don't mind being hated by 2hufags. Lay it all on me friends. Maybe if you hate hard enough all those shitty split threads will get deleted.

>>32510874
It's true. 2d women are just shallow fapbait with hardly any personality except the one you project onto them. Vtubers are real women and as such they have much more depth. But they also get beautiful art on a daily basis from some of the best artists japan has to offer, so 2dpd literally can't compete at all. Art that is much, much higher quality than touhou art per capita (lol)

>>32513834
Yes, such superior 3D that it needs to hide behind 2D to have any relevance at all.

>>32513834
2D is the platonic ideal, symbols we strive for, 3D is the base, disgusting beast the only cares for itself and will betray you if something it sees as better comes along.
I don't actually give a shit about 2d vs 3d but your post was silly, stop fanning the flames.

>>32513545
Shallow shit like this opposite of how a fan would act

>>32514331
Yes, a true fan would post fifty pictures in the boobhu thread.

>>32514382
No a true fan would be male

>>32514331
Learn English.

>>32513545
>Also, if I'm not mistaken both Marine and Mori were involved in the doujin community before becoming vtubers.
Where's the proof?

>>32514540
He might be stretching the definition of "involved" a bit, Mori did covers of Touhou doujin songs.

>>32514629
Ok now where's the proof?

>>32514382
The existence of secondaries on /jp/ does not somehow make your slut genuine.

>>32514629
Also did an original song with IOSYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7VK3pne8N4

>>32514851
wtf I love real women now

>>32514851
This has nothing to do with touhou or otaku culture

>>32515046
Go back to your general.
>>>/vg/2hug/

>>32515137
Please explain how people from IOSYS working on a shitty non touhou related song has anything to so with touhou

>>32515137
Go back to your home, because /jp/ belongs to us
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/

>>32514851
>>32515184
She did an entire Touhou ALBUM.
http://cool-create.cc/cd/cccd60/

>>32515222
Since you love reddit so much:
https://www.reddit.com/r/touhou/
This isn’t your board and never was. The fact an oldfag LARPer like you is trying to claim ownership is all the more reason to flush it all back into your containment where you belong.

>>32515325
That's corporate trash and you have yet to show proof of the other one you named

>>32515417
>corporate trash
>deflecting
>deflecting
Have you ever played a Touhou game?
Do you have a single L1cc?
No. You haven't and you do not.
You will never be a true Touhou fan, but Marine is.
ZUN hates you, ZUN loves Marine.
Simple as. Now fuck off to Reddit.

>>32515558
He’s never written a song. Never made a single piece of art. Never made a game. Doesn’t even play them. He’s nothing and this is his only outlet.

>>32515390
Touhou is the reason this board was created newfag

>>32515558
>ZUN hates you, ZUN loves Marine.
I guess I love commercials since I've seen so many.

>>32515558
The album was not talked about in any touhou fan communities

>>32515865
This is a lie. It was blogged and discussed on nearly all of them when it released. Maybe you’re a newfag?

ITT: Gaijin knows otaku culture better than the Japanese

>>32518421
Niwaka is a Japanese word.

>>32514429
ok then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3q-M1wKioQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJxfnWhmQ3U

>>32514660
She did a cover of one of my personal favorite Touhou vocal arrangements/PVs, actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbfVsscUMaU

>>32447557
>vtuber that got her start on 4chan
Who?

>>32522992
Moot.

>>32522992
Koopa Fortuna. She's an indie used to do voice requests in /hlg/ before going into vtubing proper.

Noble goal but I fear /jp/ is damaged beyond repair. Not the first time it's happened either. Anyway

Okuu (Utsuho Reiuji)
Haachama (Akai Haato)

>>32523091
I see, thanks anon.

>>32522992
>>32523091
Oh yeah, and Mori used to post on 4chan and has dropped pretty explicit references to the site in the past without actually name dropping us.
People like to speculate about the others, but Mori is the only one Holo EN that as definitely been here before.

>>32515390
Holofags come straight out /v/, reddit or twitter. 2hu will always stay on /jp/. The holoshit fad will die out in 1-2 years.

>>32443091
Rumia and Gura, I guess. I don't follow vtubers at all but I think Gura is cute at least.

>>32443091
Patchouli and Marine, Ina is a close second too.

>>32523740
>I don't follow vtubers at all but I think Gura is cute at least.
Spoken like a true Holofag. Gura is the magnet for all the fairweathers and tourists.

>>32522992
The attention whore Nyanners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mhY-dElllk

>>32524823
Damn it, anon. I didn't want to remember this bitch existed.

>>32524907
She's part of the line up of whores (literal and otherwise) that make up VShojo so you'll have no choice.

>>32524937
You could just not watch VShojo

>>32524951
And you could just not watch Vtubers but if you're on /jp/ you're going to have them shoved down your throat regardless.

>>32524797
Okay. I've got probably about 200 images of Rumia saved over the past five years and a lone picture of Gura, but whatever you say :^)

>>32524937
>VShojo
I don't actually know what this is so hopefully I'll only have to be angry for today.

>>32524969
Just hide the threads/posts and move on anon

>>32515390
>This isn’t your board and never was
Why do you think /jp/ exists to begin with?

>>32443091
>vtuber
>holos
Just for this special mention of hololive you have already failed and have highlighted yourself as one of their EOP tourists. Just say vtubers.