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31197728 No.31197728 [Reply] [Original]

Is there any way that this ends well anons? Is there any solution that makes everyone happy? is this the end?

>> No.31197768

Kill the meidos and everyone would be happy

>> No.31197798

>>31197768
They mighy be dead by now aswell, just look at the state of this place.

>> No.31197836

/2hu/
/vt/
Simple as.

>> No.31197839

>>31197728
New containment boards for everyone, or we go back to shitting up /a/ and /v/.

>> No.31197843

>>31197728
I thought I'd come back when meidos woke up and nuked the retards but apparently they were awake the whole time

>> No.31197879

>>31197839
>/v/
no thanks

>> No.31197936

>>31197728
just give the vtubers their own board, its obviously what they want anyway

>> No.31197967
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I think 2hu should be bannes from the site.

>> No.31197969

>>31197728
They stop pussyfooting around the idea of a new board for vtubers/youtubers in general

>> No.31197989

just take it easy

>> No.31198006

>>31197969
A board for e-celebs in general is a pretty good idea actually

>> No.31198020

Make a Doujin and an Ecelebrity board, then /jp/ would actually be fun to browse.

>> No.31198057

>>31197967
stupid sheepposter, we're trying to improve race relations here

>> No.31198123

>>31197839
Please come (back) to /a/ and scare away the shonenfags

>> No.31198511

>>31198123
kys

>> No.31198539

>>31198123
We can't do shit since both /jp/ and /a/ meidos are huge faggots

>> No.31198651

>>31197728
1. make an eceleb/vtuber board for shitposters, all English-speaking vtubers, fans of smaller chuubas, and people who want individual threads for each JP vtuber. limit it to just vtubers if you don't want /v/ undesirables talking about all their shitty ecelebs on the board too
2. keep hlg and only hlg (so not hlgg. maybe keep that 1 vtuber general as well) here with old containment rules so these people dont get their community nuked. most of hlg actually seemed to like the arrangement, and mods stated just a few days ago they thought things were fine. and if theres a specific vtuber board, morons will go there instead of constantly flocking here. this will basically close the hololive border here and attract newfags elsewhere. in this way hlg will get to keep their community (or if hlg is fine moving to another board and keeping their insanely fast general there, move them too)
3. as part of this, make hlg sort their shit out with the homolive faggots and either bulldoze them, send them to a new board, or accept them back, i dont care which. it seems they mostly hate the homos, so send them to the new board
4. similarly make the vtuber geberal come to a consensus on niji/voms/indie JPs etc, unless they all just want to go to a new board too
5. delete all roommates/seiyuu shit on sight instead of leaving everything up that isnt about the mods precious shark
6. while you're at it fucking clean up the porn threads that have never belonged here

satisfies native /jp/ population who wants a slow board, hlg posters who liked things the way they were, smaller chuuba fans that usually get drowned out, and shitposters who want a /v/-speed board to post about their vtubers. sorry to globalfags but there's no justification for some EN tubers to go here while the others are relegated to /trash/ so you'll have to go play nice with them on a vtuber board (or run them over, i dont care).

of course things like this would actually require communication from the mod team which they never do since they're huge fags

>> No.31198704

I'm thinking of hosting an image board just for these cunts to move away from here

>> No.31198717

>>31197728
Replacing the mods

>> No.31198723

>>31198704
Can you post a screencap of the imageboard

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>>31197728
The vt*ber brokers want a whole board to shill their filthy paypiggy crap on, crystalizing a minimum of patronage even if their fucked up racket is cracked down on or loses its current popularity. Any shilling for a separate board is playing into their moneygrubbing hands.

>> No.31198839

>>31198778
Even so, it doesn't necessarily have to be a VTUBER board. An eceleb board in general would solve both the vtuber problem, and the various off-topic eceleb threads on other boards.

>> No.31198862

>>31198778
then they should pull a /fur/, make a honeypot board then nuke it and ban everyone who posted there. then return this board to normal

>> No.31198923

>>31198839
An e-celeb board would be hilarious.

>>31198862
Don't get your hopes up; this "chaos" is top-down and fully intentional.

>> No.31198969

>>31198717
current mods do not understand this place

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>> No.31199214

e-celebs board for jewtuber (virtual or not) cancer and other shit like that would probably be the best option, which is exactly why it is never gonna happen.

>> No.31199286

>>31197728
Well the problem seems to be hololive rather than vtubers as a whole correct?
So if for whatever hololive was gone there'd be no problem right?

>> No.31199554

>>31199214
The one problem with the e-celeb board that this site has needed for a couple years now is it would be filled with retards self advertising and jannies would either have to waive the rule or actually work so it will never happen.

>> No.31199600

>>31199554
not to mention the legal headache from all the doxxing and irl harrasement

>> No.31199679

>>31199600
I think there is enough legal precedent for 4chan to avoid getting dragged into cases with all the shit that's happened on mainline social media. It would still be a huge headache though.

>> No.31199684

>>31199554
perhaps psychological adjusting the board could be the workaround

>> No.31199694

>>31199554
We could have /aidoru/ and put idols, vtubers and k-pop girls in it, would save /jp/ and /mu/ in one go, would be far less likely to run rampant with doxxing too.

>> No.31199737

>>31199694
This is a fair solution but too smart and nuanced for the meidos to ever do it.

>> No.31199756

>>31199679
anon, the whole fapening thing nearly bankrupted the site from legal fees. we won in court and were almost destroyed by it , its the whole reason why moot decided to leave.

>> No.31199764

>>31198651
Maybe also get rid of the game threads while we're at it aswell.

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31199770

Everything is clearer now
Life is just a dream you know
That's never-ending
I'm ascending

>> No.31199777

>>31199737
We should all spam the meidos to death, maybe that will change something.

>> No.31199798

>>31199756
Yeah but that was before there were dozens and dozens of similar cases on twitter/instagram whatever that now basically waive liability from the site for people harassing others.

>> No.31199815

I wish people would stop spamming threads because suddenly threads that would stay alive for hours without anyone babysitting them are straight to page 8 after an hour. The worst part is that it is both sides doing it in response to each other in addition to all the meta threads.

>> No.31199832

>>31199798
twitter and facebook are large companies with highly paid legal teams, 4chan is not.

>> No.31199845

>>31199737
I just wish the mods would say something, you know?
I hate this 'hiding behind silence' shit they do. moot always came out and explained his decisions, no matter how stupid they were.

>> No.31199857

They're not gonna make a new board. New boards that were added and that became popular are almost all giant shitshows. Instead, INCREASE THE PAGES. Other Imageboards can have 15 or even 20 pages. It would solve everything.

>> No.31199874

>>31199777
This, a Hololive vs Touhou spam war should be enough for them to realize their fault.

>> No.31199878

>>31199832
Yes and those facebook/twitter lawyers over the past years have basically made sites immune for people trying to get money from being harassed. There is now so much legal precedent that most cases would be immediately dismissed.

>> No.31199881

>>31199845
old /jp/ would force them to speak up

>> No.31199892

>>31199857
Or just let this calm down and actually purge the generals and game generals to their actual respective boards.

>> No.31199922

>>31198651
>Move EN but keep ID
Nice bias

>> No.31200009

>>31199922
What does EN have to do with /jp/

>> No.31200043

>>31200009
>otaku culture

>> No.31200046

>>31197936
It really isn't. I liked our 2 threads and you guys keeping your board. Doxxniggers stuck out like sore thumbs and got deleted. All the OC is one spot, it was a nice system. All of this is the fucking meidos refusing to do their jobs and giving raiders a blank check to shit up this whole board. This board now is what a theoretical vtuber board would look like.

>> No.31200057

>>31200009
>Employees of a Japanese company aping japanese norms, style, and coworking directly with their Japanese cohorts

Retard.

>> No.31200098

>>31200043
So I guess that means we should allow mobile gatcha's games from /vg/ to set up shop here because gatcha is a otaku culture thing aswell.

>> No.31200114

>>31200098
vtubers aren't video games, which we have board dedicated to

>> No.31200119

>>31200057
Nintendo of America makes japanese video games like metroid prime

>> No.31200132

>>31197728
Yes, create /holo/ and ban hololive discussion in every other board, like MLP.

>> No.31200158

>>31200119
>muh vidya
It's a japanese thing that isn't video games ergo it belongs on /jp/ there was never even an argument against it besides coping. An idol or e-celeb board is certainly needed however.

>> No.31200164

>>31200114
But that's a bit of bais. It is an otaku thing so that should take a bit more of precedent.

>> No.31200165

first do not create an e celeb board as that what would been seen as an endorsement on the concept of e celemdom ,
however what can be done is creating a youtube board, now I don't know anything about youtube's api but if there is a way gain information about a video link's view count or subscribers it would help if you set up the board to only allow embedding of videos with a certain threshold of views or subscribers , this would discourage self promoters.

>> No.31200176

>>31200043
So is every twitch streamer that plays random japanese games also otaku culture?

>> No.31200212

>>31200164
E-streamers hiding behind 2D avatars are not otaku culture

>> No.31200223

>>31200176
Hell close down /a/ and have them move here. Anime is also otaku culture.

>> No.31200233

>>31200009
What does ID?

>> No.31200256

>>31200212
It is dominating otaku culture at the moment no matter how much it upsets you or you cry or shit your pants. I think Touhou is pretty shit but I never would dispute Japanese nerds suck its cock.

>> No.31200262

>>31200233
I'm not some retard who watches vtubers so I don't know what that garbage is.

>> No.31200292

>>31200212
Imagine unironically thinking this and at the same time pretending to be an authority on /jp/, vtubers are a type of idolshit because it's about building a parasocial relationship with fans , selling merch, interacting with other Otaku hobbies, etc. You realize a ton of former touhou artists are into vtubers now? Imagine telling them what they do isn't Otaku culture becuase some westerner on a mongolian site gets angry over it

>> No.31200300

>>31200256
Touhou should technically be on /v/ or /vg/. It is a game.

>> No.31200330

>>31200300
The game is never discussed here only fap pictures and other fan works.

>> No.31200362

>>31200256
Lol on 5ch they think touhou is more popular in the west now than in japan because hololive only gets two threads on /jp/ while touhou gets 50. Touhou isn't that popular in JP anymore.

>> No.31200380

>>31200362
Yeah it's been dead awhile, but while it was alive it was otaku culture, just like vtubers are now otaku culture, or when boat faggotry was all the rage for a year or two.

>> No.31200389

>>31200292
Then why don't we have twitch streamers playing japanese games on this board too? I mean that's peak otaku culture right?

>> No.31200416

>>31200330
Okay then, what about the kancolle general, the mobage general, the Elona general, the touhou GTA thread, BL games geneal, or any of the other game generals?

>> No.31200426
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vtuber board with 4chan pass to post
Must confirm gender is the same as in birth certificate to post as well.
All South East Asia rangebanned.
EVERY SINGLE PROBLEM SOLVED

>> No.31200470

>>31200416
Stop pilpulling you stupid disingenuous faggot. Vtubers are otaku culture, any employed by japanese companies belong on /jp/ the presence of other video games on /jp/ doesn't fix your brain damage.

>> No.31200486

>>31200292
holofags are scum

>> No.31200493

>>31200389
It's not about playing japanese games retard. It's about being employed in a japanese company, speaking japanese, interacting with other Japanese streamers and they also make songs, covers, had a concert just recently, there's anime art released for them (also Otaku). It's Otaku, and there's no other board for it, so it's here. The songs,merch and anime art already makes it Otaku.there are vtuber dakimakura. Do twitch streamers have that? Just stop coping retard.

>> No.31200518

>>31200470
See here >>31200212

>> No.31200532

>>31200389
Why don't you? There used to be threads about NND streamers.

>> No.31200539

>>31200043
>>31200057
>>31200158
QUOTE WHOM-A

>> No.31200563

>>31200518
Nigger do I have to go pull up how many manga referenced vtubers as the latest trend, or cutouts of them all sitting in Akihabara and shops before you stop being retarded? You're not baiting anyone just jerking yourself off.

>> No.31200598

>>31200470
So do we draw the line in the sand at employed by the nips, or all vtubers

>> No.31200601

>>31200493
So? Some twitch streamers also sell japanese related art/merch. Hiding paypig culture behind cute 2D avatars will never be accepted here.

>> No.31200629

>>31199554
>>31199694
vtubers to /vg/
idolshit to /trash/

>> No.31200642

>>31200598
>employed by the nips
Yes.
>other vtubers
>>>/trash/

>> No.31200658

>>31200601
How is paypig culture not peak otaku? What's more otaku than buying the normal and special CD of your favorite idol? Are you out of your mind? You should watch Otaku no vidéo. Just because this time you're paying entertainers rather than artists. What's the big difference?

>> No.31200664

>>31200601
Japs invented paypig culture in the first place retard with idols. They are the progenitors and masters of it.

>> No.31200725

>>31200601
>accepted here
You're already giving up, it's just sad autists trying to have a board for themselves in spite of the rules. It was the same when idol threads started appearing and you fags raged like idiotic autists and made a fuss despite it being clearly on topic. In fact, just kill yourself and go to gensokyo.

>> No.31200762

>>31200725
As someone pointed out we have game generals here anyway that are clearly off topic

>> No.31200812

>>31200762
yeah but /vg/ and /v/ wont allow them on their boards, same with the monster girl threads and /a/

>> No.31200844

>>31197728
Ban non japanese vtubers from /jp/. That would be a start.
Also ban idols and JAV.

>> No.31200848

If only there were websites or chat services where you could curate all the content you want and only see things that you like, maybe some service where you can downvote posts you don't like or where you can kick people you don't like out... I think if there was something like that you wouldn't have to go to 4chan and constantly see stuff you don't approve of.

>> No.31200851

>>31200812
Why wouldn't they be allowed? They're literal video game generals. That sounds more like an excuse and more that they've stuck around for to long without anyone doing anything.

>> No.31200853

>>31200812
most of the game threads could probably move to /vg/ now but there is no reason to unless they want to compete with getting bumped off the board.

>> No.31200873

>>31198511
NO U NORMIE FUCK

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Future is here faggots this is our board now

>> No.31200931

>>31200881
Fuck off /qa/ nigger.

>> No.31200950

>>31200853
I mean they're off topic so that's where they should go.

>> No.31200961

>>31200851
>>31200853
the vn threads got split because /vng/ are EOPs and muh translator drama, mobage thread is here because most of the mobages discussed in there arent popular to sustain their own generals on /vg/ and the mobage board does not allow generals for some retarded reason. arguably /tmg/ shouldnt even exist since the only thing TM is doing currently and in the forseeable future is fate but that happened because of autism in /fgog/. as far as the rhythm game general goes idk

>> No.31200986 [DELETED] 

>>31200098
Yes. We should also allow anime and manga and video games.

>> No.31200991

>>31200961
>>31200950

Seems fine, /jp/ was an off topic cancer containment board in the first place, the first of its kind.

>> No.31200996

>>31200950
Meidos don't care.. like always

>> No.31201019

>>31200961
I mean couldn't there just be merged mobage general on /vg/? Other games do that just find on /vg/ and they can survive bundled up.

>> No.31201031 [DELETED] 

>>31200539
This is an English and Japanese language board.

>> No.31201064

>>31199554
People already self-advertise all the time in /wvt/ on /trash/

>> No.31201079

>>31201019
there was a general mobage general but that died because of /v/ tier console wars and schizos shitting it up (like you see whats happening here). thats why a version of that thread is here because it originally got split of from the /vg/ one

>> No.31201135

>>31201079
That was in the past now though, so it should be more or less fine for the games to go back to /v/ and /vg/. Might be worth asking on IRC.

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>>31197728
Nah not unless some of the mods stop being lazy while some of them are on a power trip.
My suggestion, let it blow over. This is just an imageboard, not life.

This level of shitposting is akin to team edward vs team jacob.
Yeah, you're all acting like prepubescent girls arguing over the same book.

I've enjoyed touhou for about 15 years and I will continue to do so. I also just so happen to enjoy the silly memes that holoshits create. Some people actually care about idol culture, even if they're just a self-conscious woman behind a weird anime face.

If you're a true touhou fan do what we've always done. Hide away like the cockroaches we are, persist through the apocalypse.

Happy holidays /jp/

>> No.31201177

>>31201135
it should be fine now, i did ask on IRC a while back when shit settled down but as usual they were either autistic as fuck about and kept things as they are currently or just not give a shit and let things stay

>> No.31201223

>>31201177
I mean the mod(s) seem in the mood to shake stuff up and actually get the board in order. It couldn't hurt to ask again with them actually caring again.

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its funny how meidos most likely try to lessen required moderation on this board and their current move will make it only harder, its gonna be priceless to see them keep saying "it will calm down, just wait" in week or so. And yeah it wont happen since holoshitters and 2hufags both can prety much shit on either threads let alone those who dont even frequent this board but want to be assholes which WILL require more moderation, or we can just annnounce that board is now shithole aka /v/ or /b/ 3.0.

>> No.31201262

Hololive is the third most popular hobby on 4chan after video games and politics, everyone with a sand mind would prefer a board when shit that's much less popular all has one, instead they are killing /jp/ for it

>> No.31201264

>>31201223
Somebody asked yesterday and get told to suck it up.

>> No.31201265

>>31201246
Just another /pol/ subboard more like.

>> No.31201343

>>31201264
So why actually improve the board in one way, but keep around off topic garbage?

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>>31200426
This is the only Ayamepost that I have ever liked

>> No.31201434

What happened here?
When did this happen?
I haven't been here in ages

>> No.31201479

holoen isn't super jp but at the same time it would be kind of weird to have it somewhere separate from holojp

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>>31201434
>sharkmeido kept things running smooth
>2 threads for the holos
>general peace
>new faggot mods
>refuse to enforce doxx rules or keep holo threads contained
>giving a full pass to pic related to come and shit up the board

>> No.31201527

>>31201434
Hololivefags got couple containment threads here, couple days ago mods decided that fuck that shit and they are now free to have as many threads here as they want, now we are all dancing on the ashes while mods sniff their own farts and hope that this shit calms down on its own

>> No.31201648

>>31199922
the fuck is ID?

>> No.31201704

>>31201648
The indonesians holos

>> No.31201730

>>31201514
>>31201527
Jesus christ
Last time I was here it was just the two containment threads yeah, I guess it's a weird situation since some people want a board just for vtoobers and some wanna stay here but fucking hell, a thread for every holo?
Where is my 2hu tummy thread?

>> No.31201742

>>31201704
they can move too then, i dont give a shit. non-JP idols dont belong here, especially the EN ones

>> No.31201762

>>31201434
mods decided its fine stop containing holo threads when they really needed their own board and it will prety much make whole /jp/ open for shitposting since there is no way that they gonna monitor every thread and remove off topic shitposting. Biggest losers in this will be those slow moving generals that were sheltered here, but now those slow threads cant exist since they get deleted in a day without posts and earlier they could exist atleast week without posts. plus shitposters are free to do pointless threads that dont have anything to with /jp/ related since mods wont do anything since they most likely make them look like they have something to do with /jp/

>> No.31201774

>>31200300
>>1
Touhou is /jp/

>> No.31201815

>>31200300
and hololive stuff is streaming of games so they should too go to /v/ too by that logic.

>> No.31201832

>>31199600
People are posting roommates and seiyuu seiyuu shit for the holos already

>> No.31201836

>>31197728
2hus graduating from 4chan forever

>> No.31201871

>>31201832
and imagine that but even worse and more intense

>> No.31201893

>>31201762
train thread... F

>> No.31202024

>>31201893
Maybe those poor souls can find refuge on /n/.

>> No.31202029

>>31200426
Fuck off. I am ok with SEA after the chink shit

>> No.31203345

Touhou doesn't own the board. Never has. Remember moot's post when he opened /jp/? Sorry you got comfortable.

>> No.31203370

>>31203345
Suck my cock dude.

>> No.31203876

>>31203345
still wont change that fact that current decision will ruin it not only from 2hufags but also from other smaller generals and whole board will be most likely just warzone since i doubt mods will monitor every thread for offtopic posts since it was hard for them to even keep 2 containment threads intact, but since you have not been here long you most likely wont give shit like most of holofaggots.

>> No.31204751

>>31203876
Japanese vtubers won't sustain 100 threads. The character threads are already dying at low post counts, only the more popular girls will have their own once the novelty wears off. You aren't some sort of protected species, threads will survive based on who wants to discuss what.

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>>31204751
>You aren't some sort of protected species, threads will survive based on who wants to discuss what.
While true, there is still literally no reason to current state and no reason to kill threads for it if we dont count some faggots who just hate 2hu for passion. We both know vtubers/hololive stuff is big enough to warrant own board. We shouldnt suffer because of lazyness of moderation or greediness of board owner who, for what i have heard dont like holilive since he is himseld invested to nicolive or such other bullshit, which is most likely reason you cant have your board. And ultimately touhou is rooted to his place hard, why ruin this, when altrenatives exist, protected species or not since you are not one either.

>> No.31205987

>>31204751
>Japanese vtubers won't sustain 100 threads.

They don't have to, after all jewtubers are /jp/ related no matter the language or country so long as the corp funding them is sufficiently nipponese.

>> No.31206024

>>31205252
There will still be plenty of room for touhou. If you had any genuine concern for any other topic, you'd have been begging touhoufags to condense their threads for the past decade. Hard to have sympathy for people that are throwing a tantrum over something they've been doing to others for years.

>> No.31206357

>>31206024
People keep saying this but many Touhou threads are as slow as the generals themselves and don't really disturb much. If anyone wanted a general topic here they could've just made one, and frankly people were at least okay with the condensed Hololive general. Now that they're leaking, not as much.
The idea that people cannot be upset because they are not "entitled" to being upset is dumb. What people should think is that "this happened, how do we fix it?"

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>>31206024
Why should i beg since there was no reason to do so in past and there should no reason to do so now either and for you to have any genuine concern for state of board you should been here longer than few months, since you clearly not been here long enough, since this is clearly not concerning you.

>Hard to have sympathy for people that are throwing a tantrum over something they've been doing to others for years.
So how about source or are you just claiming that some falseflagger shitposters are actually /jp/ core, yet to see 2hu faggots going to claim other people boards for no reason.

Also just side note i been drinking quite well, but i like arguing about things while having some drinks and while this can go one way or another i just wish you merry holidays anon and no hard feelings at this point, i hope this whole thing get settled though, and in time it will, for better or worse and ultimately i will accept the outcome but still giving my few cents while not most wisest ones most likely.

>> No.31207010

>>31198704
inb4 it gets infested with pedos like 9chan

>>31200426
>must confirm gender is same as birth
put this on the whole website somehow, please

>>31204751
The point is that good threads with less posts get pushed off the board for the current flavor, which is spamming threads so hard they kill those smaller threads in hours. Just move your shit off to another board and let the peace be.
I only come to /jp/ to browse 2-3 favorite threads and scroll for anything interesting that's not just horny posting, which in itself already gets out of hand.

>> No.31207115

>>31206770
I think at least 95% of the holofags, even if they don't like touhou, don't want to kill the niche generals either. I never posted on /jp/ before Hololive but I'm lurking in some of those threads since years ago. No one actually likes this situation. However our thread's quality improved a bit because some individual threads shaved off a few schizos, but 9 out of 10 vtuber thread are completely worthless and should die because they have no place on this board. And neither HoloEN, which is probably the biggest cancer, but we can't really do anything against that
Thankfully the swarm of the new threads is slowed down and the catalog isn't THAT bad now, most generals already able to survive. Give it a few days until the worst shitposters will get bored and the catalog will be basically the same except maybe a few Holo thread, but those won't be much faster than an average general here because most people just like to post in the giant threads more.
Merry holidays, I hope we can coexist in peace again, or we'll get a new board and we can leave each other in peace.

>> No.31207336

>>31207115
We'll see how the board is in a few days, I feel more confident that this will just be a failure on the meido's part and I think that if they could moderate the generals, they could moderate the boards. I'm already tired of needing to bump the threads I use semi-hourly to not die.
That said, have a merry christmas.

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I just wish the board would slow down man. Both Touhou-posters and Vtuber-posters keep making dozens of threads that get 5 posts and then die, and then they make the same fucking thread again.
It's hard to imagine the mods making such a colossally stupid decision, to force two such vastly different 'cultures' (for lack of a better word) to live together. 2hu gets a new game every few years, whereas vtubers make literally hundreds of hours of new stuff to talk about every single day. Obviously one is going flood the other out of competition. All I can imagine is that behind the scenes the mods were saying "lol /jp/ is a shithole, who cares what happens to it?" but that's a short-sighted, cruel way of thinking, and though I know that my message to them will never, ever get through to them, I'll say it anyway - Please Reconsider.
Anyway, Merry Christmas ya filthy animals.
Maybe next year we'll implode, wouldn't that be nice, for a change?

>> No.31207538

>>31207115
>Give it a few days until the worst shitposters will get bored
I don't think you understand how determined people can be.

>> No.31207629

>>31207336
>a failure on the meido's part
Seeing what's happening on /qa/ and the meido's constant presence in the thread (only in the global thread though), I think it isn't a fault but completely deliberate action and they have some kind of resentment against either Hololive or /jp/, or the previous /jp/ mod who's frequent in the /hlgg/ thread, because they made fun of him on /qa/ pretty hard. Honestly I don't know what could we do, some faggots currently trying to spam the r/a/dio thread with Hololive related images just to make /a/ hate us even more.

>> No.31207676

>>31201815
They really aren't just people that play video games on stream though, maybe at the surface level it might look like that but really there is a lot more too it, at least as far as the Japanese ones go. They're involved in some way or other with a great deal of what would be considered on topic on this board.

There's doujin events based around it with people producing all sorts of secondary content manga, games, fanfiction, music, cosplay, itasha. Then there is all idolshit like the CDs and live events, vocaloid covers, MAD style videos made with them, visual novels, actual anime/manga about the characters they play, traditional seiyuu and well known utaite often stream with them and even some mangaka.

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>>31207402
>I know that my message to them will never, ever get through to them

That's what the feedback page is for. In theory at least.
I did suggest bumping the ban length up to 3 days on /a/ and it actually happened, so who knows?

>> No.31207815

>>31207629
The anti's are going to ruin everything.

>> No.31207842

>>31207629
there's more than one mod anon

>> No.31207907

>>31207842
You're right, but neither of them seems to care about /jp/, they're just ERPing on irc with each other.

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>>31207629
i guess good question is why /qa/ even exist when its literally filled with faggots trying to ruin things from others. Probably those in r/a/dio thread too.

>>31207676
While i want to say they shouldnt be involved anything /jp/ related since its just makes our obscure stuff not so obscure and we all know what happens to stuff that gets too popular, i guess we have to just see how this works out.

>> No.31207959

>>31199600
We have a rule against doxxing, retard
Also Kiwi Farms still exists

>> No.31208145

>>31207959
rules wont do jackshit, people who want to do that will do that regardless.

>> No.31208186

>>31207907
This is just the nature of it. Anti's being mad that they don't rule the board anymore. Jannies will wait till the fallout is over and the tuhu is finally dead.

>> No.31208405

>>31207921
I think a lot of the Japanese fans and those that were here prior to the explosion in western popularity are the people that were already into that kind of thing to begin with and got drawn in by some connection to it. When one of your favourite illustrators/magaka draws some character and you go on a hunt to find out who it is or you see one of them in an official promotional event for some idolmaster game that kind of thing.

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Remember to post your high scores when explaining why you think touhou won't survive this change. No one cares about your opinion if you're a secondary.

>> No.31208519

ENs are part of Hololive. Hololive is Otaku Culture. Really simple

>> No.31208583

>>31197728
>Is there any solution that makes everyone happy?
Either making a new board, or going back to forcing all vtuber fans into their few generals and deleting every other thread about that.
Both of which are things that a certain faggot mod doesn't want to do because he got mad about vtubers and decided to vent his anger on /jp/.
On Christmas.

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>>31208406
Try not to be too impressed.

>> No.31208626

>>31208405
yep but you do realise whole hololive scene have gone heavily to normalfag tier and i bet like 80% of hololive traffic is some newfags who either never been in 4chan or in /jp/ before, let alone how much it have been treding among normalfags.

>> No.31208738

>>31197728
I think the translation for the caption of that image should be "That picture is too beautiful, I can't look (I don't dare to look)"

>> No.31208772
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Cry all you want but mods aren't listening and they don't give a fuck.
Holos run this board now.

Touhoufags deserved it anyway for years of raiding other boards.

>> No.31208830

>>31200046
This. It's 100 percent a mod conspiracy.

>> No.31208851

>>31208626
Sure I don't think you can argue too much with that. Just look at the board speed, from around 2018 to the start of 2020 it was around 5-6k posts a day. Now since they released the English speaking ones in September it fluctuates around an average of 50k a day, it was building the whole year before that but spiked up massively then.

>> No.31208856

>>31208738
how new?

>> No.31208882

>>31198651
Nice retard, EN discussion will just go to hlg, because they are Hololive related. But its okay, I never agreed with the split in the first place

>> No.31208897

>>31199892
"Yeah let's solve this issue by not addressing it at all and instead killing a few group of innocents who have always been here. That's clearly the best idea."
How retarded do you have to be to keep pushing this idea, basically telling everyone that you have never used this board and you're only here to fan the flames.

>> No.31208925

>>31208772
t. /qa/
and do you really think it was actually 2hufags here and not some falseflagger faggots like you in /qa/ who just tryed to start shit with raiding, since you guys seem to do it constantly, even here.

>> No.31209003

If touhoufags want less threads on the board, they can start by making less threads. I don't know why people are talking about you raiding other boards, you've been raiding your own even more.

>> No.31209020

>>31208925
posting shark is always a sign of /qa/ faggotry

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>>31203345
You mean, the same post telling people to condense their shit?

>> No.31209102

>>31209039
Yeah, so condense your shit touhoutard.

>> No.31209130

>>31209020
true but since everyone is claiming how 2hufags been raiding other boards, was it even actual 2hufags but these faggots instead falseflagging, since it starts really hard feeling like that.

>> No.31209199

>people clearly know its /qa/ niggers raiding like they always do
>retard still fall for the bait
i know you guys are but jesus fucking christ

>> No.31209246

>>31209102
The same way Touhou threads have always been condensed in a way that doesn't disturb the rest of the board? Meanwhile you get multiple spammed threads about the same Hololive characters made in a day using the same OP picture because whoever makes them isn't interested in discussing anything, all they want is to spam the board since it's an epic new happening so they won't even check the catalog if there's already a thread about something. This behavior goes completely against /jp/'s nature from the fucking creation of the board.
Please kill yourself and make your entire family sad on Christmas.

>> No.31209268

>>31209199
I honestly think people are just mostly airing their grievances. Although yes it did start from a /qa/ raid, but a lot of people from everywhere are complicit and want to throw gasoline on the fire

>> No.31209286

>>31209102
Make me

>> No.31209317

>>31209246
>The same way Touhou threads have always been condensed in a way that doesn't disturb the rest of the board
Stopped reading, try again.

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>>31209199
so tell me why does such board exist? harboring obvious faggots who dont really deserve to be in internet in first place, also since its obvious why everyone is claiming that 2hufags been raiding other boards since it was obviously these faggots.

>> No.31209334

>>31209246
>The same way Touhou threads have always been condensed in a way that doesn't disturb the rest of the board?
You can't be a real person. I don't believe it. What kind of thick head does it take to have warped reality in this way?

>> No.31209408

>>31209317
>>31209334
And this is how you further show that you've never browsed this board, since if you had you'd notice how slow every single Touhou thread was, to the point where despite being so numerous they never pushed the thread life cutoff to 2 hours like it fucking is right now. If you had any experience with /jp/, you'd know that even after Hololive got popular, /jp/'s threads took close to 24 hours on average to get archived. But nope, it's clearly the 2hufags' fault for spamming the board right? Kill yourself.

>> No.31209427

>>31209327
It's either them or they're purposefully interpreting some stray posters into 2hu posting it on boards where it's allowed or making shitposts in a blue moon and getting them deleted like on /pol/

>> No.31209469

>>31209408
I've seen threads hit post limit on /jp/ while being up for a while.

>> No.31209489

>>31209408
>And this is how you further show that you've never browsed this board
Been here since the split, stopped reading again. Strike two.

>> No.31209519

>>31209199
When has that board ever been "Questions and Answers" and not "enbie enbie shark shark"? When a board has strayed so far from it's purpose, don't they think it's time for that board to go? or do they just not care?

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>>31209199
Well, what else do you expect people to do? I know the /qa/ncer is arguing in bad faith, falseflagging and gaslighting everywhere they go, but if nobody calls their shit out, there's a chance that some people (including certain faggot mods) will go with their bullshit arguments.
And fuck, what hits me the hardest is how they did all of this on Christmas. It's supposed to be a time in which even autists on 4chan sort their differences out and live together in peace, but nope, a certain retarded faggot mod just HAD to encourage a raid to force fanbase wars on fucking Christmas. I can't recall when was the last time I've seen a Grinch act as bad as this.

>> No.31209599

>>31209489
Sure you have, of course you have. Yup. You're so experienced with /jp/ that you don't know shit about it.

>> No.31209618

>>31209408
Just because Touhou is unpopular now, doesn't change the fact that the situation since this boards creation with regards to Touhou, is the exact same thing as the situation right now compared to V-tubers. Guess what, it doesn't matter that lots of new people have come into the board, if you didn't care about fucking Touhou, there was almost no reason to come here. This board just finally gained a purpose for a far larger number of people. Read that first ever post again, look at the top of the board:
OTAKU CULTURE

Every fucking illustrator, voice actor and composer in Japan is into v-tubers right now, it is Otaku Culture.

>> No.31209623

>>31209519
My theory is they restructured the backend a while ago so that boards are very hard to add or remove. This would actually explain a lot.

>> No.31209628

>>31209489
Sure! I've been on the jay too since 1983.

>> No.31209652

>>31209618
You mean Japan/General?

>> No.31209700

>>31209623
Which sure explains how they went and added 4 useless /v/ splits in 4 weeks.

>> No.31209729

>>31209623
>very hard to add
Heh, so hard to add that they added 5 video game boards in a week. But yeah, i see what you mean about the difficulty of removing

>> No.31209737

>>31209618
>Guess what, it doesn't matter that lots of new people have come into the board
stopped reading there

>> No.31209772

>>31209700
>prioritizing /v/ over any other board
this has no right to be as funny as it is

>> No.31209793

Holo cunny when

>> No.31209794

The mods can't even ban Moemihater despite him shitting up threads for over three years with samefagging shitposting, why would anyone expect them to start doing any work now?

>> No.31209807

>>31209737
>Muh touhou safespace

I wonder how much money was fucking wasted keeping this board up for you to jerk off to Touhou characters for the last 10 years.

>> No.31209837

>>31209700
>>31209729
It was probably in planning for a really long time. The fact one of them is basically the gacha board despite gacha having already peaked should tell you enough

>> No.31209860

>>31209618
more likely its just excuse, since again there no reason to hololive and vtubers having their own board, and like any other board we dont like new faggots since we seen what it have done to other boards, we are prety much only board that have been saved from that bullshit but i guess it have changed.

>>31209807
i wonder how many shekels you just got from this post.

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The funniest thing is how /qa/ keeps chanting "OTAKU CULTURE, OTAKU CULTURE" like a mantra whenever they're called out on this bullshit since they don't even know how the board got that name.

>> No.31209875

>>31209807
Who are you quoting?

>> No.31209902

>>31209875
I was paraphrasing what you said.

>> No.31209930

>>31209837
>people bitched about gacha generals on /vg/ when arguably most of the generals on that board are for single player franchises that are either effectively dead or yet to get any form of updates and clamored for a mobage board
>mobage board doesnt allow generals and mods increased the catalogue size for /vg/ so said threads dont get bumped

>> No.31209931

>>31209246
>The same way Touhou threads have always been condensed in a way that doesn't disturb the rest of the board?
+80 2hu threads shitting up more than half of the board with ecchi porn dumps. Sasuga quality contento.

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>>31209807

>> No.31209950

>>31209860
/jp/ is changing for the better old man.

>> No.31209991

>>31209489
He's right though. I dislike touhou fags, they have been posting the same shit for years and don't allow any non touhou/idolmaster shit but they don't kill generals. Holofags going out of your general is what fucked up /jp/
>>31209618
>Japan is into v-tubers right now
It has been for years and there were already generals for them.
I'm not against vtubers, I like them, but because of you spamming so much is that everyone wants you out. Even the Kizuna Ai shit wasn't this bad.

>> No.31210016

>>31209931
All slow threads that don't periodically bump off other threads. Stop with this false equivalence.

>> No.31210014

>>31209934
Yeah, I'm not the one crying about an invasion or the massive loss that /jp/ is suffering.

The quality of the average Touhou thread is about the same as the image you just posted. It's the exact same shit, but the character in the picture isn't from your dying franchise.

>> No.31210021

>>31209902
But I don't remember saying anything like that.

>> No.31210048

Don't mind me, just being a considerate touhou citizen and condensing my threads.

>>31104574
>>31145796
>>31206813
>>31126011
>>31209660

>>29356493
>>31129366
>>31110289

>>31193170
>>31204263
>>30108623

>> No.31210078

Hololive runs this board now fags.

>> No.31210099

If you are so inclined
https://www.4channel.org/feedback

>> No.31210101

>>31210048
Thanks for wasting your time. No one takes you serious here.

>> No.31210130

>>31209991
I was happy just posting in /hlg/, I haven't made a sinlge post about hololive outside of those threads. There is definitely some autistic shit going on and somebody instigated it, but that's out of our control. I'm just arguing that v-tubers who are Japanese belong on this board, because now there is some sentiment that it all needs to be removed.

>> No.31210142

>>31209934
You can shit on vtubers anon, I approve it, but wombposting is objectively high quality, whatever you say.
Also just force the vtubers back to the generals, that's all we want. Why should we care about the rest of the board, 95% of us don't even browse it at all. Leave the Holostar thread because that was a huge improvement but anything else has to die and both sides will be happy. I hope the tranny mod will get asscancer.

>> No.31210151

>>31210099
Already spent my daily limit of three requests that will get completely ignored because mods are acting on bad faith a while ago. Maybe tomorrow I'll get to call them faggots again.

>> No.31210159

>>31210101
Same, except for "no one" also includes the mods.

>> No.31210230

>>31210159
Oh really? I couldn't figure that out myself. Thanks!

>> No.31210288

Thee who orbits facerigged whores is a faggot extraordinaire.

>> No.31210332

>>31210288
Coming from someone who likes art drawn by a autisic man.

>> No.31210334

Please just make a board for real life japanese stuff and move the TV, Music, Idols, JAV, Seiyuus, Trains and whatever other general of the like there so there's more space for the two 2D mentally challenged fanbases to fight without bothering us.

>> No.31210390

>>31210332
>autistic man
I want some proof on that my fellow holofriend

>> No.31210404

>>31210332
You know very well that you like art by autistics yourself. Now go pathetically emptying your wallet, thanks, then you'll rid yourself of the internet too once the bills are not payable.

>> No.31210435

At least we have christmas hats now...

>> No.31210438

>>31210142
I've been telling you since fucking April that you faggots should get your own thread and you just dismissed me as a schizo. Eat some humble pie and let the board settle down.

>> No.31210492

>>31210435
we're not just fighting, we're fighting with santa hats on!

>> No.31210552

>>31209934
Looks like your average 2hu thread but Hololive.

>>31210016
The individual threads are not that fast, speed means nothing in regards to things getting bumped off, thread creation does. There's more thread creation than usual so things die faster, simple as. That some generals die does not change the fact that they're not staying bumped up, meaning they're not being discussed on the board.
If 2hu didn't exist Hololive would not disturb anyone either because new threads wouldn't need to be created since nothing would be bumped off. Since both exist and share a living space you're just going to have to deal with the fact that just like in every other board in this imageboard, when someone makes a thread the board is full a thread will be bumped off and it'll die.
The real disturbance here was the fact that the majority of the population of the board was restricted to two generals and weren't allowed to make on-topic threads. It has been corrected. Within a few days things will calm down just like they already have and people will adapt like they're already adapting.
Take it easy.

>> No.31210553

>>31210438
fuck off, J_god

>> No.31210738

>>31210552
Except for the fact that people are spamming threads without checking the catalog for similar threads, meaning they don't have any interest in talking about specific characters or dumping images about them, all they want is to flood the board with their shit.
If you want to belong on /jp/, consider learning /jp/'s etiquette - I know it's difficult, but even most of the people in the contained Hololive generals, as well as the inhabitants of every general that got kicked here learned how to respect how things work. Until then (which clearly is never going to happen since you keep proving time after time that you aren't trying to live together with the rest of the board), please commit suicide. Especially because of your addiction to arguing in bad faith.

>> No.31210962

>>31210738
To bad you don't run this board anymore tohofag

>> No.31210985

>>31210738
>The needs of me outweigh the needs of the many because nothing
>"How things work" cited with nothing
>Respect me demand
>kys
>accusation of bad faith

Not a shred of self perspective

>> No.31210997

>>31210552
>people will adapt like they're already adapting.
You'll have several decently fast threads that disrupt the normal flow of the board with some likelyhood. I'm crossing my fingers.

>> No.31211040

>>31210962
upvoted my fellow /qa/dditor

>> No.31211191

>>31210985
It's simple: lurk more. Go back in time, lurk more and you'll realize just how wrong you are. You're even misusing the quote function too, as further proof that you never belonged in here, and the fact that you're feeling hurt and making those kinds of implications means you know you're wrong too. Please just get the fuck out and let the people who actually care about this board discuss this problem instead of believing that your newfag opinions are worth anything at all just because "you" believe you're part of the majority, not that your kind knows anything about being genuine about an interest anyway.

>> No.31211233

Dedicated e-celeb board would be the best solution desu senpai. Plus if it became a thing there would be no longer any doubt about the most cancerous board.

>> No.31211273

those people simp to virtual characters played by whores they are the lowest that a human can get

>> No.31211292

>>31201136
>no true scotsman
i will put a burning pile of shit in your mailbox

>> No.31211315

>>31207921
>why /qa/ even exist

Doesn't it only exist so that redditors will have a safe board dedicated solely to demand removal of /pol/? At least 80% of threads were some variation of delete /pol/ when I last visited it couple years ago.

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>>31210738
No they aren't spamming, feel free to report them and if you get warned yourself for submitting a false report like a few anons who were reporting vtubers as spam then by all means be my guest.
What you call etiquette is merely your autism fueled peer pressure bullying which no longer works because you're a minority on this board. Instead of relying on intimidation and shamming tactics perhaps you could actually show these posters why they ought to bother with the etiquette in a friendly and inviting way. Instead you're telling me and them to commit suicide.
Being a part of /jp/ isn't the same thing as seeking social approval from some anonymous posters on an imageboard. Everyone that posts here is a part of this board, no matter how fleeting their participation.
>you aren't trying to live together with the rest of the board
People are merely making threads about things they want to discuss, get over yourself.

>>31210997
Pic related.
The bottom thread is the 8th fastest on the board. No Hololive thread besides generals occupies the top 8 spot of the fastest threads on the board.
Similarly in regards to thread creation /jp/ is at 5 threads/h (the usual is 2/h), during today the most I've seen is 10-7; this is half as slow as the board was on the 22nd so by all means I expect things to continue to slow down as the fad of Hololive being able to have individual threads wears off and 2hus stop making so many threads for "defensive purposes".
https://4stats.io/

>> No.31211372

>>31197728
>Is there any solution that makes everyone happy?
Global wide ban on hololive the same way they did with ponies,
there problem solved.

>> No.31211388

>>31210738
Five (5) cirno threads.

>> No.31211406

>>31211273
not really

>> No.31211410

>>31211191
Or.... you'll continue to seethe about it? That's a lot of words you used to say absolutely nothing.

"Educate yourself why I'm right" is an argument a child should be ashamed of.

>> No.31211412

Ban touhounigs and vtubernigs and problem solved.

>> No.31211425

>>31211412
Finally a solution.

>> No.31211447

>>31211412
Add boatfuckers on that list too.

>> No.31211454

>>31211388
Yes, which are also spam, possibly as an attempt to counter the vtuber spam while further pushing this forced fanbase war. Remember how some autistic anon posted hundreds of Patchouli threads last week? Also spam. Just like the /qa/ncer spamming vtuber threads right now.

>> No.31211459

>>31210738
And also, within the last 30 threads 8 of them are 2hu, meanwhile only 2 (besides Hololive Generals) are Holive individual threads. Sort the board by creation date on the catalog and count.
I'd just like to let you know this so you think twice about making claims about spamming.

>> No.31211465

>>31211273
They will reach that point once vtuber bath water sales start, for the moment they get to share the second lowest spot.

>> No.31211471

>>31211412
>just ban what i don't like
ok commie

>> No.31211536

>>31211447
Those fags have 1 or 2 threads (3 whenever the nip vs chink boatfucking debate gets really heated up) up at most 90% of time.

>> No.31211551

>>31211345
Don't bother explaining anything to 2hu fags. They're to stupid to understand.

>> No.31211567

>>31211412
>>31211471
so how about we just nuke whole board and split it in two, or just nuke it and give no alternative and we can go back infesting other boards since mods are so tired of moderating this board anyway, and considering their current decision this would be just a master plan compared to it.

>> No.31211570

>>31211345
I'm telling you to commit suicide because what you're doing is fucking obvious to anyone with your attempts to argue like you know anything about the board or the current situation. Yeah, I'm sure that telling a bunch of people who have no interest in coexisting with the rest of the board will result in anything too. What the fuck are you trying to do this time? Your entire post reads like you're trying to be a pseudo-intellectual too.

>> No.31211601

>>31211536
They still don't belong here.

>> No.31211606

So I went on youtube to try learn about the subject. I'm finding it really off that Im not finding any videos that shits on or is in anyway critical of hololive , like even if I'm trying to search for that specifically
Does that seem kind of weird to anyone else?

>> No.31211627

>>31211551
Good effort though. Backed up his shit too. I don't think a rational argument is going to speak to Mr Emotion, but I respect the attempt.

>> No.31211655

>>31211567
approved

>> No.31211661

>>31211606
No? Its good content.

>> No.31211680

>>31211410
And there's the /vpol/ buzzword. Thanks for making your real intentions clear here.

>> No.31211773
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>baww /jp/ has to be my circlejerk
>no, /jp/ is MY circlejerk baww
My god this thread is awful. Just learn to coexist.

>> No.31211774

>>31211661
Anon even Thomas Kinkade , a painter who got rich off making wholesome portraits of landscapes and shit like Christmas scenes got a fuck ton of hate, nothing is beyond criticism.

>> No.31211847

>>31211774
Christmas is half as wholsome as Hololive.

>> No.31211856

>>31211661
>>31211774
What's more I see it if I search on twitter but I not on youtube ,
A platform that just happens to make a lot of money from them using features that they recently implemented.

>> No.31211864

>>31211773
there was a period of co-existance but the kids off school are bored and thought shitting up a board with spam was based, radical or whatever cool word

>> No.31211896

>>31211680

By all means enlighten me, I suppose it's "obvious" as well? I really didn't expect you to actually start a new conversation tack with all the hotfoot dodging your doing to avoid putting down a single coherent opinion not based on a air, dreams and some appeal to an imagined past.

Still, here we are, so just lemme have it.

>> No.31211946

>>31211847
They are both equally unwholesome big business schemes to get money out of retards, in an ideal world neither of them would exist.

>> No.31212028

>>31211773
No, you don't understand. They are ruining our precious culture of imagedumping and posting about touhou armpits hundred times a day.

>> No.31212029

>>31211773
The board's population was coexisting just fine with the few containment generals, which was also how Hololive fans preferred having their space around here, but then a certain mod god mad at Hololive and incited a cross-board raid and now we're in this situation. It has nothing to do with stop liking what I dislike, this entire 2hufags vs holofags is fabricated as fuck.

>> No.31212127

>>31212029
I hate you, 2hu nigger. Relocate to /e/ and /c/ and leaved the board to people who actually discuss things.

>> No.31212157

>>31212127
See?

>> No.31212165

>>31212029
Die tohou fag

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31212210

>>31212127
>>31212165
I see, so holobors and 2hubros are just losing their time replying to falseflagges.

>> No.31212238

>>31211946
They're hardly a big business. They've raised about 10 million in investment over the 4 years they have been in business with 7 million of that being in the last year.

>> No.31212303

>>31211856
Anyone want to make an anti hololive video to test the waters and see if it gets removed or delisted?

>> No.31212341

>>31212210
It sucks having to watch this obvious falseflag shit go down while the mods refuse to do anything.

>> No.31212384

>>31212210
no damn it this shit is serious

>> No.31212397

>>31211570
>Yeah, I'm sure that telling a bunch of people who have no interest in coexisting with the rest of the board will result in anything too.
People are just using the board normally to discuss Hololive, there's literally no declaration of war from Hololive. Nothing is stopping people from making threads about other things, threads don't die within minutes either so if they die within a few hours that only means that they weren't being used which is the case with most extremely slow generals and that's no one's fault. So if you continue to take it easy and show what the board is all about at least some posters will care about your interests as well. There's literally nothing wrong with someone coming to /jp/ just to discuss Holive just like there isn't anything wrong if someone just comes here to talk about Onaholes. Some people will naturally branch out, you can still leave a good impression on these posters besides "Holonigger die" and shit like this. It won't be everyone, but neither is everyone posting outside of the Hololive generals that they post in.

>> No.31212417

>>31212210
Pretty much, it's pretty clear that most Hololive fans aren't happy with this situation either. Most of the conflict is only being pushed by /qa/fags thanks to >>>/qa/3730633 basically inciting a raid.

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>>31211345

>> No.31212551

>>31212417
so why we needed /qa/ board again?

>> No.31212582

>>31212551
high-level shitposting

>> No.31212610

>>31212582
so what would happen if we just nuked it.

>> No.31212632

>>31212551
Hiro is too retarded to know how to delete boards so he left it up, as a joke. And then it began to fester into its own culture, while ignorant mods continued treating it as a board for feedback about 4chan.

>> No.31212649

>>31212610
they would all go on /bant/, presumably

>> No.31212688

Age of the tubers is here

>> No.31212711

>>31212649
so what would be damage? acceptable i assume?

>> No.31212761

Honestly the board looks fine. There's plenty of threads discussing plenty of things even with the obvious conflict bait posts. If it's tolerable now it'll be completely fine in say, a week or two.

Really the content isn't even all that different it's just instead of 3 Reisen threads it's 2 and 1 Pekora

>> No.31212789

>>31212711
If anything it would be a good thing because everyone would be able to know where the shitposting on /qa/ comes from.

>> No.31212792

>>31212551
We really don't.

>> No.31212814

/qa/ should get the same treatment as /q/

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>>31201762
>mods wont do anything
Actually, my sheep falseflag thread got deleted rather quickly so they're clearly still here. They just don't care about the 2hus.

>> No.31213074

>>31212971
So we might have to go the enders game route.

>> No.31213122

>>31212971
Based

>> No.31213398

>>31212971
After checking warosu, it's more that they're letting threads that pretend to be generic character threads (even if they're part of the falseflagging raid) alone while deleting anything that feels like shitposting. Maybe as an attempt to prove a point, I don't know.

>> No.31213511

Make Hololive limit their threads to the gens.
0,1, 2,GAMERS, 3, 4, ID(both gens in one thread), 5, EN, and Holostars.
Therefore limiting the threads from a possible 24+ to 10.
Keep indies in one thread. They aren't big enough to warrant any expanding.
Thoughts?

>> No.31213658

>>31213511
No
Hololive Global
Hololive in Japanese katakana cringe faggots

Stop.
Everything else gets permabanned. We are guests here after all.

>> No.31213708

>>31213511
Only the gen 3 and 4 would generate enough discussion to require a whole thread, the 0-1-2-gamers could go in one without any problem. But I think it's unnecessary, just let the one big hololive thread, the hololive global with En and ID and make one for the holostars, that's all. Nijis actually could go in /vyt/ because that thread is pretty much dead, they're just linking the streams and not talking about them at all anyway.

>> No.31213726

>>31213511
I'd be fine with that as far as the individual waifu theads all over the place, but the 2 main generals need to stay. Indies don't need to be here to begin with, >>>trash

>> No.31213775

Alright new plan. Shared custody. 2 cycles of 3 months going between all 2hu confined to two generals and all hololive confined to two generals.

>> No.31213926

>>31213775
But why should we contain the 2hus? No one cared about them so far. As long as the JP /hlg/ and the jap movie thread can stay the same, I don't care, the whole thread can be 2hu only.

>> No.31213993

>>31213775
>all 2hu confined to two generals
I'm already laughing at you

>> No.31214046

>>31213775
Better plan3: vtubers are exiled to /tv/ while 2hoes are sent to /tg/ gulags. /jp/ becomes a board solely dedicated to nip trains and instant ramen.

>> No.31214095

>>31213658
>We are guests here after all.
Stop that cuck thinking, you're better than that.
If you want that then confine all Touhou to general threads please.

>> No.31214120

>>31213993 How bad could it be? The Hololive people handled it and they get regular content updates daily/weekly. It's not like Reimu declares a new Incident every other week.

>> No.31214192

>>31214120
/jp/sies will always hate general chatrooms. No thanks.

>> No.31214235

>>31213775
Vtubers didn't even have 2 generals when they were being confined, as much as they love to say that 2hu posters are always bitching I think the amount of generals they were allowed was extremely generous. As far as I know, they were all in one general until they split between hololive and nijisanji, then hololive split again when the EN ones debuted, and last time I saw they split again for male vtubers. That's 4 generals, even before all this shit flinging started. It just goes to show how much they need their own board so they can split all they want.

>> No.31214294

>>31213511
Having threads for each talent can make discussions more fun though

>> No.31214364

Compromise would be the best solution: both 2hu and holo get 2 threads and any posts about them outside get auto permabans with no appeals.

>> No.31214384

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>> No.31214408

>>31214192
>/jp/sies will always hate general chatrooms.
Well it's pretty unfortunate that they're on a board where every thread except the touhous are generals.

>> No.31214414

>>31214294
doxx threads aren't "fun"

>> No.31214435

>>31214095
>Stop that cuck thinking, you're better than that.
How am I cuck? Because I'm respectful for other people?
We kept murdering threads daily anyway and every time a Touhoufag came into the threads he was laughed at every fucking time.
The reason I, no, most people don't want an entire board for vTubers/Hololive it's because its quality would be 1 billion times worse than the generals, and that says a lot considering how fucking shit they are to begin with.

>> No.31214472

>>31213074
In enders game ender engages in a space battle against bug people , he uses the molecular destabilize to destroy a swarm that attacks the fleet as they approach the bugs home planet. But many more swarms come out of the planet to attack the fleet. Too many to handle so ender instead uses the next shot of the molecular destabilizer to target the home planet itself eliminating the queens and ending the war.

>> No.31214480

>>31214235
>last time I saw they split again for male vtubers
This didn't happen, the holostar threads before the spreading were all deleted. People tried but it was worthless because the mod actually did his job.

>> No.31215627

>>31214435
>and every time a Touhoufag came into the threads he was laughed at every fucking time.
This should become a standard for posting here.

>> No.31215696

>>31214480
Sounds like meido finally smartened up and stopped trying to force four different communities to live together in one thread.

>> No.31215735

>>31213993
They might actually hit the post limit for once.

>> No.31215783

>>31215735
how's your first day in /jp/?

>> No.31215810

>>31213511
I would kick EN and ID out of /jp/ but otherwise I think it's a way better than what the mods are currently doing

>> No.31216125

>>31215783
Take up any issues with the fags talking about how they want a slow board where threads last for months. This is the most active they've been in years.

>> No.31216578

>>31200848
So incredibly late, but absolutely based.
This is /jp/ - Otaku Culture, not /r/touhou. Idols, Japanese VTubers and VTubing companies, gijinka/monster girl franchises, being Japanese otaku products, all belong on /jp/. This board is so broad in scope you'll never make everyone happy unless you up the number of pages to keep up with the sheer breadth of topics.

>> No.31216801

>>31216578
Just to add, the only real way to make people happy would be to fracture this board into its own specific niches - danmaku, idols, vtubers, whatever...but for fuck's sake we already have a million boards and we might as well just turn into an uncategorized BBS.

>> No.31217456

>>31216578
And yet it's never become only Touhou at any point, even despite the fact that people used to beg moot to do that at some point in the past. Isn't it amazing how nobody really found any issue with 2hu on /jp/ until a group of newfags showed up and started demanding more space for themselves?
The only real issue with vtubers is how much of a hot topic they are right now, that's why they only had a few generals worth of space, so they didn't drown the rest of the board with their numbers. And then a mod forces them out of their containment and threads on /jp/ start dying 10 times quicker. That's what the previous moderation was trying to prevent and what /jp/sies didn't want to see happen.

>> No.31217596

>>31217456
>>31211345

>> No.31217630

>>31217456
while good points, arguing with /qa/ faggots is useless, its quite obvious they are not /jp/ regulars or people who give shit about /jp/.

>> No.31217802

>>31211273
>those people
They aren't people, anon.

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>>31207629
>some faggots currently trying to spam the r/a/dio thread with Hololive related images just to make /a/ hate us even more.
Or you know, they're anons enjoying a once in a year event, I'm the one who forwarded the /qa/ boogeyman and you're being a purposely obtuse, there's 600+ IPs in both threads combined and most of anons in the hololive threads have been around since at least 2008. It's christmas, take it easy.

>> No.31221319

well some anons dont deserve that though.
let alone those who come here talking shit. christmas or not.

>> No.31224450
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>>31221319
Its on you to differentiate shitposters from actualposters
It's not even that bad, every single anon and their mother is overreacting about this. It's going to go back to normal within the next month, Think about what you're arguing about: it's whether you can post LARPING NND hags on a mongolian basket weaving forum, I've seen it be mentioned as /mlp/ but it's not, /mlp/ consistently tried to get you into their franchise while also being annoying as hell whereas most posters are just posting fanart#468 or reactionface#621 It's no different from anything else, it's just the nature of 4chan to be contrarians since it's liked by a lot.
The more popular ones are gonna work to slow down the really fast threads(generals). Just get rid of the two autists on both sides having a war in the catalog with their spammy threads and everything will be fine, this is meido approved, it's not a raid or anything and everyone would be happy
of course it won't fix posters having unnatural vitriol against said content, but maybe that will cull all the meta threads like this one.

>> No.31224460

I started hating Hololive because of this. I used to report Chinese spammers and support them when YouTube tried to deplatform them, and they thank me by ruining /jp/. Making me regret everything.

>> No.31224943

>>31224460
Negative bro. We're not the jannies.

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