/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Not bad

If someone is new to VNs I'm going to guess he can't read moon.

It's fine, but if this recommendation image is for newcomers, shouldn't you give some indication for the games which aren't translated yet?

We already have one.

Fuck off.

>>3072342
The proper chart.

Are you sure this is original content?

>Bible Black
>Hana to Otome ni Shufuku wo
Why? There are so many games lacking there, but so many mediocre games

Of course, you could just ignore recommendation threads instead of wasting time doing this.

Where's katawa Shoujo?

>>3072339
>>3072341
Why the hell spoonfeed them even more? They can find out on their own which are translated and which aren't.

>>3072332
Fuck off and reported.

You should feel bad making a recommendation chart.

>>3072332
>Sengoku Rance
>VN

Question: How do you make the perfectly straight, and evenly spaced columns like that in Photoshop?

>>3072359
I think you're being overly elitist and conceited. But that's, like, my opinion, man

>>3072375
Considering we're already turning into /a/, I think it's warranted.

let me fix your chart:

tsukihime
fate/stay night

>H2O
Anyone have a decent link to this?

>>3072375
Without elitism we're nothing.

>>3072369
Guide lines. You have rulers, right?. Drag them. There.

>>3072384
See the bottom-right of the image.

>>3072375
We're not here to help idiots out. They can go through archive or lurk moar.

>>3072375
/jp/ is always elitist.
Newfags should learn to lurk the fuck moar and not make thread like
"Hi I am from /a/, what should VN should i play next?"

>>3072389
True enough. Isn't it sad?

>>3072332
>>3072348

i hate you op
these shitlists are for bandwagoners without own taste and only good for troll fuel,
so FUCK YOU

>>3072391
I tried that. All I can find isa torrent stuck at 77%

>>3072389
I disagree. Another way we could easily make ourselves distinguishable from /a/ is maturity. It should be expected, rather, since many of us are over 18.

>>3072404
Not sad at all. I feel better about myself already

>>3072404
Nope. Being elitist is a good thing. Take away elitism we turn into another /a/.

>>3072406
I based the OP chart from that image, then added in some new ones. I haven't read all of them, you know...

This thread is everything wrong with /jp/

>>3072426
What you dont realize is >>3072406 is actually a big "fuck off and play all of them" recommendation reply instead of a serious helpful reply.

Try making it look like this???

>>3072435
This. This is why the one that points out which ones are in English should never be posted.

>>3072399
>>3072400
It's like you're indiscriminately grouping together retarded as fuck newfags and new people who could end up being decent posters. Kind of like how we're group with 4chan AKA /b/ for all the outside world cares.

>>3072438
That's too dumbed down. "For beginners"? Reading visual novels isn't a fucking science. Fuck off.

>>3072399
This is why /jp/ is a horrible board.

Well I approve, it's got to the point where I actually like the random recommendation thread cause EVERYTHING ELSE IS FUCKING UMINEKO.

Everyone bitching in this thread is just another 07th expansion weeaboo.

>>3072442
Newfags are fine, as long as they don't act like newfags. When I started posting, I did so after a good while of lurking, and then just blended in. In that sense, I was never a "newfag". Asking for recommendations is newfag behavior.

>>3072445
I never fully understood that. I guess they mean easy as in "short and easy to understand" or something like that, but seriously, it's not that complicated.

>>3072442
Those new people could go lurk moar, or view the archives. It's not hard because we talk about this shit every day.

>>3072456
No asking for recommendations is a perfectly normal thing to do. No other place on the planet actively hates people for doing normal things quite like here.

>>3072442
>retarded as fuck newfags and new people who could end up being decent posters

You can usually tell which is which by the way they post.

>>3072442
If you dont know how to use /rs/, google or torrent.
You are not welcome in /jp/. Also /jp/ discuss every flavor of the month VN and old VN once in a while. If you at least lurk few hours you will know what to play and what not to play.

Helping idiots will only lead to more stupidity.
It is like the saying, you dont give a man fish, you teach him how to fish.

>>3072453
I agree that there's way too much Umineko, but recommendation threads are no better. I mean there are a couple dozen translated VNs, you don't need a chart for this shit.

>>3072466
The fact that you're calling someone an idiot for asking "Hey guys what cool games do you like I wanna play some." is quite possibly the most moronic thing I have heard all month.

>>3072462
All I see here when it comes to VNs is Umineko. I have never seen a thread where people talk about something else.

>>3072453
>Everyone bitching in this thread is just another 07th expansion weeaboo.
I kinda agree with this one.

>>3072438
Wind? What the sjhit?

>>3072464
No it's not. Maybe if they're asking for specific recommendations, but usually people just shout HAY GUYS WOTS GOOD?!?! in which case THERE'S A FUCKING ARCHIVE.

I wouldn't mind if we didn't get this shit multiple times a day.

The recommendation threads always end up as a conversation about a specific vn anyways

>>3072488
There's an archive on ANOTHER site which not everybody knows about.

>>3072504
If they're from /a/, which they usually are, they should know about it. If not, just link them to it and then hide the thread.

>>3072445
>>3072486
I found it like that, also another chart

>>3072482
>All I see here when it comes to VNs is Umineko

I've seen /jp/ going through a few vns. Umineko is just the current trend. Umineko will likely last longer since it is ongoing.

>>3072466
>Helping idiots will only lead to more stupidity.
Idiots cannot be helped. Those who genuinely seek help needed to be tended.

It's not like everyone new to VNs is that smart to figure things out easily. When somebody asks for sauce, all you give is shit. And this is what I hate the most about some of you. How is someone supposed to get into VNs if they don't have any idea about it?

Lurking more doesn't do any help. You'll see what I mean when you browse it yourself.

>>3072512
Maybe you should go to their house and install it for them. They might have a bit of a tough time googling the games to.

>>3072524
They're supposed to get into it by lurking moar. That's what i did and it worked.

>>3072524
>How is someone supposed to get into VNs if they don't have any idea about it?
I got into VNs without making shitty recommendation threads. Why can't they?

If VNs get too popular, /jp/ is going to turn into /a/. It's already going downfill.

>>3072524
Ok. Let me give you an example. Current /jp/ flavour of the month is umineko and sengoku rance. To tell you the truth I havent play Rance but I will tell you what is the trick I use when I want to play it.
I will type this into my top right box in my browser.
-sengoku rance torrent
-sengoku rance translation

Now what would the idiot do instead?
"What VNs should I play next guys? Where can I download it? Any link and is there a translation for it?"

Probably half the recommendation threads that pop up on /jp/ are made by regular posters trolling. I make them on occasion myself, and I imagine others do as well.

>>3072557
/jp/ is probably the easiest board to troll because we don't take it easy. Visual Novels are serious business

>>3072548
Or maybe he wants to look at other things.

And he's still not an idiot.

The only people I'd call idiots are the anti-social, humanity hating retards that populate most of this board.

I mean, when /V/, which is largely a cesspool, has more constructive discussions then /jp/, there's a problem.

I don't know how /jp/ devolved into the bitter little clique it is now, but it's sad. It was pretty nice when it first started

>>3072538
That's, like, just you, man.

>>3072544
>If VNs get too popular, /jp/ is going to turn into /a/. It's already going downfill.
They won't. Say /a/, we know they don't like reading walls of texts. Those who will get into VNs are those who can bear to read through hours. VNs won't get as 'mainstream' as anime outside Japan for that reason. You're a bit delusional to think like that.

>>3072514
Well, yeah, then the discussion will die down and the likes of Umineko will stay on top. It's kinda tiring.

>>3072567
Then what are you doing here? Also, where's your sage?

I got into VN's because I was curious about Clannad so I google'd it, found some MU links and download it, I usually lurked /jp/ in threads that other anons made asking for recommendations and saw some charts, I googled the names on the VN's I found interesting and read the reviews on them, then I managed to get a good source on where to download VN's via MU/RS, most of the links I found where hosted on forums, only VN I got with torrents was Chaos;Head.

It's just a mather to learn how to use google and know what words to use in the search, also learn the usual sites/forums where VN's are discussed, that should help a lot.

>>3072548
>Current /jp/ flavour of the month is umineko

Been waaaay longer than a month...that's why I'm utterly sick of it. And its the same shit OVER AND OVER again, plus alot of it lately is about the anime. Threads made by the very same virgins that use the cliche line "go back 2 /a/" whenever someone disagrees with them.

>>3072583
Also, somebody should write a guide on how to use google.

>>3072574
>That's, like, just you, man.
Are you implying he's some sort of genius and not everyone could just do what he did?

>>3072582
>Then what are you doing here?
Touhou talk mostly. Plus the antics of some of the tripfags amuse me.

>Also, where's your sage?
Sage is for when one feels that their post isn't worth bumping a thread over.

I have no problem bumping up this thread with my comments.

>>3072563
I cant contribute on other thread so I like to shitpost in this kind of thread.
I sure hope the troll feel happy.

>>3072548
That's like forcing newbies and having them say, 'Whoa, /jp/ is playing Sengoku Rance, maybe I should play it too *download* WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?! I WANT HEART-WARMING ROMANCE NOT THIS!! FUCK YOU /jp/!!!'

>>3072574
It's not just me. I'm pretty sure alot of people here lurked their fair share.
>>3072567
Or maybe he's an idiot who can't google.

>>3072567
>I don't know how /jp/ devolved into the bitter little clique it is now
People thinking that being mean and insulting would be an effective method of driving away people they don't like.

Too bad all it caused was inter-board rivalries and bitterness in the past (2D vs. 3D, normalfags vs. roneryfags, athens vs. anyone, etc.), and people trying to take revenge, causing this board to get even more messed up.

>>3072557
That's just you buddy. I recommend you stop.

>>3072605
>athens vs. anyone

I lol'd at this, I forgot about that idiot

>>3072605
>athens

Athens was AMAZING.

I have never seen one person cause so much blind rage.

>>3072600
>>3072600
Insufficient lurking. I havent play Rance myself but from what I read from the first post of Rance thread, you would know that it is a strategy games with tons of raping.

>>3072623
Good because i forgot about him too. /jp/ would be a bit less shittier if we just banned most of the tripfags. Not saying they cause all the shitstorms that we experience here.

>>3072600
Problem is, many recommendation threads just ask "Hey /jp/, I've tried this visual novel here, and I think I'm getting to like visual novels. Can anyone tell me some good ones?"
They don't specify what they want, so every time this is asked, the response remains largely the same.

Also, please and thank you go a long way towards getting the answers they want, something which many of them have yet to learn.

>>3072598
There are two places you should go called pooshlmer and shrinemaiden, don't you know?

>>3072650
That would require me registering an account.

Posting on 4chan is quick and easy. Plus I'm usually doing something else as I browse this place anyways.

>>3072660
>pooshlmer
>That would require me registering an account.
What?

>>3072646
>Also, please and thank you go a long way towards getting the answers they want, something which many of them have yet to learn.

You...make a good point. The OP kinda just disappears after he makes the thread doesn't he. Never thought about that till now

sage for off-topic question but
What is /jp/ supposed to talk about? I have nothing against new, interesting threads, but this question's been bugging me for a while.

I like my trolling VN chart better with all the yaoi games, and the various awful nukige games.

>>3072673
>The OP kinda just disappears after he makes the thread doesn't he
Maybe that's because they were just trolling, like the guy earlier said.

>>3072660
What are you talking about? pooshlmer is essentially /touhou/

>>3072674

lol....its simple. Touhou fanbase thinks its about touhou. Idol lovers think it should be about idols. etc. etc.

Its like 3072605 said..they all just hate each other and try to claim the other shouldn't be here. But when it comes down to it I think touhou really is the reason /jp/ was made but I really don't care.

>>3072674
Basically once there was /a/

In /a/ not only was anime and manga talked about, but visual novels and quirky doujin games like Touhou.

Eventually moot grew tired of this and wanted to make /a/ anime/manga only again. So he created /jp/ to talk about all that other stuff.

pissing and shitting on the floor.

>>3072674
Video Games, Japan, Idols, Doujinshit, Touhou, Type-moon, Hiroshima, Light/Visual/Eroge

>>3072687
Never been, actually.

I'm actually rather lazy, and /jp/ doesn't bother me enough to make me want to go somewhere else yet.

>>3072701
>Japan

>>3072646
>They don't specify what they want, so every time this is asked, the response remains largely the same.
That is because they have no idea what they want. So people end up saying the same VNs over and over. From there they play and choose what suits them. So why not just give an image instead of typing them one by one, or replying with unhelpful crap? After they've checked out the recommendations, lurking moar will become imminent.

Question: Say I'm a newbie, came to and lurked /jp/, saw a certain VN thread, asked for sauce. You give me shit. You told me to google it. Then I didn't like it, reading through some synopsis. Were you any help to me, someone who is interested in VNs?

I know we're filtering the filth but how are we supposed to filter anything if nothing's coming in? It's just us smearing shit at each other.

>>3072717
>It's just us smearing shit at each other.

This is the best description ever.

>>3072673
I'm here, replying to some posts.

>>3072717
Name me more than good 20 translated VNs that wasn't adapted to an anime. There is so few translated VN that anyone should have played all of them by now or know of it existence.

>>3072735
>good translated VN
Define it.

This Thread pretty much represents everything that is wrong with /jp/
Rage, Trolling, spaming, hating each other and faggotry.

>>3072731
He doesn't mean you, he means the OP of "Recommend me a VN please"-threads.

>>3072717
Why don't they go to www.vndb.org. Or search "Translated Visual Novels". First hit was actually a list of translated visual novels. Wow wasn't that tough

School Days, Amagami. Cool.

>>3072751
Anything that isn't fap material like discipline, bible black, xchange, virgin roster and etc.

I am easy to please and I play all the english VNs that I can get my hand on.

>>3072674
>>3072646
>>3072595
>>3072583
>>3072528
Samefag.

>>3072764
Yume Miru Kusuri, Ever17, Saya no Uta, Tsukihime, True Remembrance, Snow Sakura, WIND, Family Project, Kira Kira, Edelweiss, Princess Waltz, Divi-Dead, Phantom of Inferno, MOON., Crescendo, Eve Burst Error, True Love, Sengoku Rance, Planetarian, Narcissu, Giniro

>>3072829
>Phantom of Inferno
Scratch that one. Still, there's 20 there.

>>3072829
>>3072835
Now isn't this easy. How can anybody that have lurk for at least a week not know about all this titles?

>>3072735
(not the Anon you were replying to)
Well, good is a really subjective thing to be honest, but there was at least 20 VN I personally enjoyed (ergo I voted it at least an 8/10 ), and it doesn't have an anime adaptation I've heard of. These are all from my own VN list, and I've been playing with VNs for 6+ years by now. (Of course I might unconsciously using my nostalgia googles for the oldie games)
1 Ever17 -the out of infinity- ; 2 Eve: Burst Error; 3 Saya no Uta; 4 True Love; 5 Desire; 6 Nocturnal Illusion; 7 Critical Point; 8 Kira☆Kira; 9 Giniro; 10 Snatcher; 11 Edelweiss; 12 Sengoku Rance; 13 Adam: The Double Factor; 14 Heart de Roommate; 15 Castle Fantasia ~Seima Taisen~; 16 Yume Miru Kusuri; 17 Divi-Dead; 18 Wanko to Kurasou; 19 Planetarian ~Chiisana Hoshi no Yume~; 20 Narcissu
Of course what I found good, might be an utter crap for the others so please spare me the nitpicking that "oh how dare you call that game good, since it was shit".

>>3072829
Wind was terrible and had an anime adaptation. Princess Waltz was just terrible.

>>3072867
Read his definition of good

Some people found both of them good, you opinion doesn't matter
>Wind (...) had an anime adaptation
Oh. I haven't heard of that. But there are lots of other VNs, as pointed out by the posted above you

>>3072829
>>3072866
My point wasn't on how the good or bad the game is. Taste are subjective but more too this.

There is so few translated VNs around, why dont you just go play all of them instead of wasting time making "Hi guys, what VN is good for me to play?"

Beside you have VNDB that can give you synopsis and shit. Before /jp/ existence where we have no place to ask for recommendation and back then I think I check shii.org like once a week to see what project is stalled and project is on going.

>>3072717
>So why not just give an image instead of typing them one by one, or replying with unhelpful crap?
Why give them an image when you can give them an infinitely more useful link to VNDB that they can copy and paste?

>>3072902

>>3072866 here. Oh I completely agree with that, I personally hate such silly VN recommendations too, since it is a lot easier to search for translated VNs in existance through google as their number is so low (unlike animes or western games), instead of bothering a community with one's own request.

However I wanted to answer, that there are at least 20+ subjectively enjoyable VNs with no adaptation, if you are looking hardly enough.

I'm gonna go completely off topic here and ask for a recommendation though it seems it's looked down upon..

Originally I used to like the .hack series until it got unbearably gay with .hack//link. Then I was in search of something sci/fi ish to fill the gap and found 2 candidates, とある魔術の禁書目録 and Baldr Sky. I ended up picking Baldr Sky as my new fandom, and I was wondering if there were any good VN's that are similar to Baldr Sky where it's based on computer/hacking where interfacing with a computer means you go into a 仮想空間.

I really like series that deals with 仮想空間 on earth. Yureka, .hack, and Baldr Sky are the only series so far that deal with it that I know of, if /jp/ knows of any other semi decent series or VN's that deal with that, please tell me?

..and I'm probably gonna drop a preorder on amazon.co.jp for Baldr Sky 2 Recordare since I enjoyed 1 so much.

>>3073180
What about the rest of the Baldr series?

>>3073180
Just find something you like here.

http://vndb.org/v/all?q=;ti=;te=;ln=en;o=d;s=pop

Hey, can someone get OP for me and put a red cross over all the titles which are non-ero?

Thanks.

I don't really see the point in this. You can just use vndb to find something you like.

>>3073198
How about you go to VNDB, search the title and check to see if it has a 'sexual content' tag. If it's too much work, then give up entirely. There are tons of other things out there.

>>3073183

I heard they weren't as good as Baldr Sky, plus some of them are based too far into the future... I like it closer to present year. I don't know why I have this weird preference but yes.

Anyways, I should check them out. Shouldn't always base it on what I hear...

Thanks for your suggestion.

Is Baldr sky dive 1 a sequel to baldr force..?

>>3073198

If you want to miss out on some really good stuff, yeah, I'm sure someone could cross those out.

>>3073180
Good example of an acceptable recommendation thread.

>>3073180
>>3073213

Check atleast Baldr force as it's similar to sky, and about the tech level, I'm pretty sure that Sky happens after force, I think there was extremely small reference somewhere in sky to force too. So Forces tech level is actualy bit lower than Skys. As for baldr bullet, I haven't played that, but I heard that it happens in "real world" rather than in virtual. So it might not fit.

>>3073338
This. Check Force EXE too. It's by the same scenario writer and very good too. Though i prefer Sky.

>>3073381
>>3073338

Thanks, sounds exactly like what I'm looking for. I'll definitely check force/force exe out.

>>3073180
This is indeed the kind of question that is acceptable. He' looking for something so specific that there's no tag for it in vndb.org. So it's difficult for him to find an answer to the question without asking

>>3072524
Asking for sauce of a picture is also OK. Stuff like that maybe difficult to find out otherwise. Just do it in the same thread where the picture was posted instead of making a new thread for it. And you're supposed to get into VNs (or I got into them this way at least) by playing VNs that have anime adaptions you like and playing anything popular and highly rated in vndb.org. And don't give me shit about newfags not knowing about vndb, it's like 4th result when you type "visual novel" into google.

>>Everyone bitching in this thread is just another 07th expansion weeaboo.

>>3072332
There are a few things on there that I didn't really like, but the fact that there is someone else on /jp/ who has read H20 ~Footprints in the Sand~ pleases me. Also, saved.

>>3072332
Replace "Hana to Otome ni Shufuku wo" with "Rui wa Tomo wo Yobu" unless you just want a girls' school trap game in which case you should replace it with "Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru"

The chart has too many generic harem eroge no one recognises.

Also, switch Chaos;Head with Noah.

>>3072332
Saihate no Ima fucking where?

And I haven't played H2O, but if it's as fucking god-awful as the anime adaptation was, then this list fails.

>>3073198
It's probably faster to mark the non-ero onces.

>>3072332
Why did you choose such an awful picture for Swan Song? Use this or something else.

>>3073198
It should look something like this.
I'm not too sure about some titles though.
But man, there are enough VNs with just a single H-scene per route, might as well just skip those with ctrl or something.

seeing Katahane and Asuseka is nice.

>>3074089
It's like the whole game is translated, huh?