/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Yes

>>30535350
>>30535379
*claps*

Not official. Of course. Too soulful for TM of 2020.

>>30535317
meh OP

>>30551541
Isn't this 2017 though? I'm surprised it hasn't gotten scanned yet

>>30565414
rude

>>30535317
>discount Rin

>>30575907
>>>/a/eddit

You don't want these crummy cards, you want something more.

>>30575907
I didn't like her initially but as I kept reading I grew to like her more than Rin

Is /tmg/ still seething over FGO?

>>30577606
Not as much as FGO shills are seething over TM, DW and Aniplex being completely incompetent.
And the rise of games that can kill it.

>>30576733
That guy is still mad that this isn't a Rin hugbox like /a/.
This is an Aoko general, always has been, always will be.

>>30578312
is the UBW anime to blame?

>>30569890
It's from Sasaki Shonen artbook

>>30578411
It was an issue prior, but it made it a whole lot worse.
Miura being a Rinfag and Sudou being a Sakurafag has not helped either of them or the works as a whole.

>>30579458
Was Yamaguchi a Saberfag? Really don't know much about him other than the news that he died not too long ago

For me it's Shizuki.

>>30582389
Me too.

I want to do something cheap and superficial with arc.

Dont care, still playing FGO

>>30586007
I bought some FSN promo stuff from Japan and they sent me FGO stuff for free.

Weird.

>>30578312
alice>aoko

>>30578312
>>30582389
>>30588111
Nah, pic related > all

>>30586007
cool, i'm still buying cyberpunk
gotcha bitch

>>30589641
Considering after all of Mahoyo is done, Aoko is likely the only one left...
You might as well let go of the rest.

>>30589740
Why do you have to hurt me anon? I just want them to be happy...

>>30589641
Understandable

>>30589740
If Mahoyo is done at this point

Is there any way to skip dialogues you've already read in Melty Blood? It's kind of annoying spamming a button.

>>30590127
Nevermind, I just realised I could use ctrl on my keyboard...

>>30589740
>Considering after all of Mahoyo is done,
NASUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

This month crumbs will be the Tsuki no Sango and Fate/Grand Carnival.
...I think this will be the last year I actually expect anything.
I'll try to watch both, even if it costs me money, but if in the end it is just Nasu stalling the remake because of some bullshit Fate-related reason, I think I will get out.
We are entering a new decade and I don't want to live a joke in the hands of a japanese individual that never knows what he really wants.
It is too disrespectful.

You know why Nasu all the time extends the Fate project? Because everytime he reads what his public say, he notes that nobody understood his intended message.
The most notorious example are the extended Sakura wank he has been doing since CCC. I actually think Nasu is forcing people to like Sakura for some reason.
It is like Nasu was deeply offedend that people called her wormwhore and not worth being a waifu because she is not virgin.
There is also Last Encore, which people also talked very badly about. Nasu even wanted a remake of Extra and we are getting news from it. Guys, we have SCHEDULES FOR UPDATES OF THE EXTRA REMAKE WHILE TSUKIHIME REMAKE HAVE LITTERALLY NOTHING.
"oh but those prints from kyobee- THAT SHIT WAS NOT EVEN SUPPOSED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.
Even FGO is starting to get this treatment, they are litterally having 0.5 chapters a year worth of DEVELOPMENT OF THE STORY. The last chapter was a LITTERAL stall where Sion tells you to "go have fun while Holmes analyze things". Even FGO players are being made of clowns.
Do you understand the problem? Stop wasting your time.
Delete this general.
Why are we even returning here? There is no point.
The more we wait, the more we are a joke.
Give this december and those 2 events the final chance. If NOTHING happens like usual...
Then, it will be time to DISPERSE.
Delete Type Moon from your memories, overwrite it with something more productive. Regress to the point where Nasu was a non-existance.
Do yourself a favor and live a good and virtous life. Make this decade worth something, anything.
Even death at this point would make you more valuable.

>>30611227
Pasta posters should eat shit.

>>30611744
I actually wrote that, it is a shorter version of a blogpost I did in a near time.

"I don't know how things turned out like this, so many years passed by and yet we don't know anything about the Tsukihime remake beyond some small things. I'll probably be dead by the time you read this. To the one reading this, please uncover the truth of what truly happened in Type Moon, 2008. That is my only wish."

>>30611227
I can't.

>>30620572
You will when the next collab in FGO ends up being Emiya Gohan.

Is Arcueid autistic?

>>30620742
The arcueid we see is frequently in the post killed state that Shiki left her and also regenerating using most of her energy.
Something on the level of aspergers is the minimal expected.

>>30620736
I have no problem with that, at all.

>>30611227
>This month crumbs will be the Tsuki no Sango and Fate/Grand Carnival.
There will be Extra Remake news too. Maaaaaaaybe you could get to see Arcueid.

>>30628473
Even if they intend do repeat the cameo, there is no reason for her to appear in an early demonstration, she was the what, sixth master you fight?
But yeah, I undestand where you're coming from, with tem showing her model just to tease.
Indeed would fit the crumble aspect.

>>30628552
>Even if they intend do repeat the cameo
They already stated that every character and scene from the original Extra game would be kept

The Tsukihime Doujins from 2008 link is dead. Does anyone have a backup?

>>30631899
Also does anyone have [WAVE-0018] or a general WAVE collection? Sorry to be a begging leech but these aren't on the internet

>>30611227
Speaking of that FGC anime, they created a twitter account for it right after the announcement so I'm certain it will be a TV series, not just an OVA for the NYE.

>>30633731
They will show an episode on that day, so at least that episode will be an OVA.

>>30611227
There is a lot of other media out there to engage in while you wait. Constantly thinking about Tsukihime R is just going to make the wait harder. It will come eventually. Maybe learn Japanese in the meantime so you don't have to beg for a translation 4 years after it's out

Akiha

>>30634827

>>30634262
I think people, including the anon up there already pass most of the year doing other things, else they would rant like that all the year, like, 5 times a month.
The issue that I think I understood is that each december is depressing when it should be a happy month.
Also, when in moments of weakness, remembering that what you wish doesn't happen because nasu is being a totally hack with Fate is kind hard to deal.
I myself was a "to the next 10 years" shill that thought "a good work needs a good dose of preparation years" and was defending the long wait because there were a lot of works being released prematurely and being shit.
The thing is that the remake is clearly not being released because of a more complex preparation.
What makes this guys depressed is not that the Remake is taking too long.
It is the very clear reason of why it is taking too long.
Maybe if Nasu got quiet on interviews and never answered Tsukihime related questions, things would be fine and no one would be depressed.
Ignorance is bliss in this case.

What is better for the Stay Night VN Mirror Moon translation or Realta Nua Ultimate

>>30635880
You're right, I can understand the frustration, but at the same time I've just accepted that Nasu is doing what he wants to do. I don't get my hopes up unnecessarily saying that he HAS to be working on Tsuki R to finish it ASAP or anything. That anon seems to be going overboard in the melodrama near the end of his post, which is why I assumed that he needed to engage in other things.

Frankly, I'm happy with what we got this December because I have fun with playing and reading FGO's story so a GO carnival could be fun. Go ahead sue me.
I am also having fun delving into some of Nasu's older works, and reading artbooks etc. I know many of you have probably exhausted all of these resources by now though.

The more I read, the more I realize so many Type-Moon media is left untranslated. It would probably help the community a great deal if many of the artbooks and side manga were translated and properly typeset. If only we had more fluent JP speakers willing to do that

>>30639482
Realta Nua Ultimate

>>30639482
rn

I'm tired of all this shit. I don't enjoy TM anymore. Everything irritates me and I just want it to end

>>30641075
Everyone except a few autists here irritate me.

>>30641075
>still not having given up
why

>>30641075
You have the power to end it. Just cut yourself off and never think about it again.

It's what I'm planning to do, if there's no good news this month. I'm weak-willed and won't succeed, but it's still a good idea.

>>30620742
considering she had minimal social contact prior to shiki and what >>30620795 said, it's quite possible

If phantasmoon were to be a welfare on a carnival phantasm collab on fgo, would you play it to get her?

>>30651006
No and if I did care I would be mortified that they were in that abomination.

>>30651006
Pls don't. I play fgo and I don't want Nasu putting anything Tsukihime related there

>>30651006
No.

>>30660027
I am pretty sure that LB 7 will involve Sion and the DAA, since ORT is a DAA itself. If other Tsukihime characters are going to show up it would be there.

>>30661891
Sion also has that "bond with human history" thing going on, which might be related to the DAAs not existing in Fate stuff.

Is it normal to be bitter about everything post 2012?

Ciel is a loser and has no friends.

she deserves more love and attention

>>30663546
If you don't like TM past Extra that means you brain can identify patterns correctly

EXTELLA Link > EXTELLA > EXTRA >> EXTRA CCC >> Stay Night

>>30667875
Okay but she's hot

>>30676322

>>30676335

>>30676347

>>30676322
I will agree with this.

>>30578312

There is literally a hentai thread for Rin on /h/ LMAO

I love Arcueid.

>>30679996
me too

>>30676322
>>30676335
>>30676347
>>30676358
Based Cielchad Sasaki reader.

>>30683066
no u

>>30686887

>>30686893

>>30679996
Why can't the remake art look like this?

>>30611227

>We are entering a new decade and I don't want to live a joke in the hands of a japanese individual that never knows what he really wants.
It is too disrespectful.

Sometimes I think Nasu is forced into doing things or persuaded lol.

>It is like Nasu was deeply offended that people called her wormwhore and not worth being a waifu because she is not virgin.

Yeah... I think it's weird. Just because they made CCC and all of suddenly oh I see Sakura differently now?

>"oh but those prints from kyobee- THAT SHIT WAS NOT EVEN SUPPOSED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.

If it was not for the public to see then why did they show it at TM museum? I think you mean don't take pictures and upload it on the internet.

>Even FGO is starting to get this treatment,

FGO is a mental illness. At the end of the day it's just waifu collecting and people going into debt for jpegs. lel

>Delete this general.

Delete TMG on 4chan? I can't fathom to comprehend this other than your despair.

>Delete Type Moon from your memories, overwrite it with something more productive. Regress to the point where Nasu was a non-existence.

This is so wrong on so many fundamentally levels. If you think about it, those who experience TM soul works are the truth. I'm not a OG but if I experience their works when it came out, I would cherish them more than delete them. It's like a sense of awe so this what they were.

A FRIEND OF MINE WAS INSPIRED TO MAKE THIS HECK MAYBE I'LL ASK WHY IF TSUKI REMAKE COMES OUT OR UNLESS YA ARE REALLY REALLY CURIOUS!

>>30611227

>We are entering a new decade and I don't want to live a joke in the hands of a japanese individual that never knows what he really wants.
It is too disrespectful.

Sometimes I think Nasu is forced into doing things or persuaded lol.

>It is like Nasu was deeply offended that people called her wormwhore and not worth being a waifu because she is not virgin.

Yeah... I think it's weird. Just because they made CCC and all of suddenly oh I see Sakura differently now?

>"oh but those prints from kyobee- THAT SHIT WAS NOT EVEN SUPPOSED FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE.

If it was not for the public to see then why did they show it at TM museum? I think you mean don't take pictures and upload it on the internet.

>Even FGO is starting to get this treatment,

FGO is a mental illness. At the end of the day it's just waifu collecting and people going into debt for jpegs. lel

>Delete this general.

Delete TMG on 4chan? I can't fathom to comprehend this other than your despair.

>Delete Type Moon from your memories, overwrite it with something more productive. Regress to the point where Nasu was a non-existence.

This is so wrong on so many fundamentally levels. If you think about it, those who experience TM soul works are the truth. I'm not a OG but if I experience their works when it came out, I would cherish them more than delete them. It's like a sense of awe so this what they were.

A FRIEND OF MINE WAS INSPIRED TO MAKE THIS HECK MAYBE I'LL ASK WHY IF TSUKI REMAKE COMES OUT OR UNLESS YA ARE REALLY REALLY CURIOUS!

okay /tmg/, which one of you posted their room

>>30679996
>>30682907
me three

that is the worst raitaabortion i've ever seen
what on earth compels maggots to not just quit

>>30693419
why she sad?

>>30697777
no shiki :c

>>30697777
She has nobody to abuse and then comfort.
I mean, the abuse is in good nature.

>>30687238
Because takeuchi sold is soul ages ago.

>>30700271
Telling someone off because he's proudly showing off how he can kill anything with one cut isn't really abuse.

>>30709070
Come to think of it, the kicking is only in CP.
I'm truly losing it.

I think the steady stream of fanart still coming in after all these years is enough to keep me invested.

>>30710691
I mean, same, but like, only for Mahoyo because it's like in my top 3 VNs, but it's not like I have any faith in the sequel ever comming out or Nasu ever reusing characters like Alice or Shizuki in any meaningful way. Aoko will probably play a role in fgo from what I've heard though? But that's about it.

>>30711038
Well, outside of very specific usage, Aoko in FGO wouldn't be meaningful at all.
She won't be in it, that mats is a red herring.

current typemoon be like
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaSidvxLyNOQ6Ip-626Dkc7F66Yf3n864

>>30710609
She said she could have kicked him because she couldn't see someone so small, so you're not that far.

>>30710691
What are your sources of aokochad artists?
Do they make other Mahoyo characters also?
I need more Arisu art

>>30712595
90% are twitter, the remainder is pixiv.
I'm sure there are vestiges of art being made elsewhere, but I'll pretend that doesn't exist.
I do check the boorus also.
Generally speaking, go through a rabbit hole and follow the relevant tags and you should find everyone.

>>30713545
oh so pretty much what I have been doing
either we have the same images then or I'm not searching enough
anyway, thx for the consideration

Arc is a winner and has many friends.

>>30712595
>Do they make other Mahoyo characters also?
They mostly are TPfags who really like Mahoyo in particular. They sometimes remember Alice exist but even that's rare so others Mahoyo characters might as well not exist.

>>30715598
TM*

Anything i'm missing for the prototype universe?

(I know labyrinth takes place in the stay night world but ayaka is the MC)

ぴえん

What if Sasaki Koijiro had mystic eyes of death perception?

Whether that be Tohno's or Ryougi's version of them.

>>30725999
? They would have the same effect, not sure what you're getting at.

>>30727300
I meant more on how much would they have increased his effectiveness during the holy grail war?

>>30727799
It wouldn't go against plot armor, probably would create more bad endings but only that.
Remember that technically Saber would be killed both by Gae Bolg and that Kojiro battle if were not for a plot enhanced use of her instinct.

>>30716648
Nope, just that. Proto characters also appeared in some spin-off games like Hanafuda or CapSaba, but these don't count as Prototype Universe.

>>30711200
>She won't be in it, that mats is a red herring
I'm not delusional enough to think so but at the very least, please don't turn Aoko into a "for (You)" servant or give her a ridiculous design.

>>30730701
FGO is turning into a cuckfesta, just so you know.
Litterary all "for you" servants are becoming shipped with someone else why you just watch on that game.
Look for sakurai on fgog and they say about and you will understand.
All in all, Aoko is pretty much safe on that regard.

>>30730701
FGO is turning into a cuckfesta, just so you know.
Litterary all "for you" servants are becoming shipped with someone else while you just watch on that game.
Look for sakurai on fgog and what they say about and you will understand.
All in all, Aoko is pretty much safe on that regard.

>>30730701
I'm just hoping Nasu hasn't completely lost his integrity.

anyone know any VNs similar to mahoyo? it's comfy as hell and since it's december I'm looking for something like that

I've read tsukihime, f/sn, and f/ha already fwiw

>>30733988
>anyone know any VNs similar to mahoyo?
Doesn't exist but someone is welcome to prove me wrong.

>>30731458
That sounds great, or at least entertaining to an outside observer like me. Tell me more so I don't have to dive into that cesspit, waste brainpower on interpreting ravings I have no context for, and risk coming into contact with the deadly nuclear radiation of FGO Lore.

>>30731458
How is that problematic that characters created for the purpose of self projecting and waifuism are shipped with other characters than the mary sue protagonist???

>>30741017
Well for one because none of the writers talk to each other. They had a character that develops feelings of love for the protag because she poisons everything she touches and the protag has poison resist, so she can actually interact with him.
Then they added a story about how she touches another servant that has poison resist by accident without knowing, and she gets really upset about it because she thought her relation with the protag was super special and doesn't want it to be any less so. Decides that her relationship with the protag is special not because of how it came to be, but because of how she feels now.
Then years later they add new voicelines that reveal she's been constantly touching another servant with poison resist to the point where he is actually annoyed about it, which is fucking retarded, mentally that should almost be cheating to her after everything the writers themselves put in the game. I really don't care about waifushit but FGO is so fucking inconsistent with everything

>>30740492
I can't necessarily give you precise details because I don't spend that much time on it as well, but I can specify how fgog is reacting.
First, we're having something really interesting which is the rise of people who likes to ship (and actually having material to it), either for the ships that you support and are canon, either the ones you make up yourself. The thing is that, either way, they were serviced with plot that enables what they like
The other is the rise of fujos which received some nice service this recent chapter with Douman, Tsuna and Kintoki to some extent.
Note how both of this already kills waifufaggism and selfinserting. They were actually being called losers and ridiculed by shippers and fujos.
Then, we also have examples on interludes that reveal things that, at the very least, make the for (You) factor questionable.
One noticeable example is Anastacia, which remembers Kadok to which she has some interesting relationship. That hurts the "to (You)" factor naturally.
The other recent issue was both Shuten Dohji and Ibuki Dohji that although have things saying for (You), seems more of a casual thing while they consistently preserves a very strong atraction to "Golden" (Sakata Kintoki).
There are other examples naturally, but it seems that overall, it is like the My Room lines although happen, are not that important and could just be an post summon alteration of the Saint Graph/Reiki, that is, an alteration that is not permanent.

>>30745159
If you want a bigger summary check >>317324281
Also, Christmas event was announced and the PV is mostly males and the waifufags are already on the "FGO is dead" today lel
They were already on 'FGO is dead wave' since last year, but this reaction to christmas was very fast imo

>>30745159
If you want a bigger summary check pic related
Also, Christmas event was announced and the PV is mostly males and the waifufags are already on the "FGO is dead" today lel
They were already on 'FGO is dead wave' since last year, but this reaction to christmas was very fast imo

>>30745764
Oh btw, they're having I think the first male welfare, which is Karna (otomebait and fujobait).
Karna Santa!

>>30745929
Karna continues to be the most fuckable.

Look at those long ass legs

>>>/vg/317315650
If you want to see the waifufags sperging on christmas announcement

the more ironic part is that this fujo/otome pandering might actually make the story better for us

>>30747057
> I'm just pissed at TM
>That's why I'm annoyed at TM
They will know our pain soon.

>>30743100
>>30745159
I still don't get it, they're developping actual romantic relationships between different characters to stop self projecting and waifuism escapism, I thought that's what anons wanted??

>>30747584
which anons?
the fgo ones (at least until 2019) were all self projectors and waifuescapists, so yeah, that's not what they want.
What this batch of "new TM fans" want is the same treatment they have with Azur Lane and etc. They want the galge experience.

>>30747737
I meant the anons who actually cared about fgo story or something

>>30747858
pic related
fgog has a saying that "fgog never read anything"
They are either a minority or TMboomers like us.
The Fujos and Shippers also like the lore (for many different reasons), so maybe they fit as well.
The closest I saw of a majority liking lore there is when they talk about powerlevels, like this one guy saying that the Greek Pantheon was the only one to beat Sefar and how JP pantheon is weak and etc.
They also inherited the gilgamesh powerlevel debates, but obviously with fgo characters.
That is, they like when fgog gets to be "shounen". But seinen moments are frequently called shit. The funny part is that this is usually compared to our VN era, and they preach a lot how VNs don't sell and how that shouldn't exist in FGO and etc.
Other than that, they usually say it is "higashide shit", "sakurai shit" or whatever author Nasu invited.
In a sense you could say that "Nasu trying to make FGO more VN-like" is destroying their waifu collection game.

>>30747858
pic related
fgog has a saying that "fgog never read anything"
The ones who like the lore are either a minority or TMboomers like us.
The Fujos and Shippers also like the lore (for many different reasons), so maybe they fit as well.
The closest I saw of a majority liking lore there is when they talk about powerlevels, like this one guy saying that the Greek Pantheon was the only one to beat Sefar and how JP pantheon is weak and etc.
They also inherited the gilgamesh powerlevel debates, but obviously with fgo characters.
That is, they like when fgog gets to be "shounen". But seinen moments are frequently called shit. The funny part is that this is usually compared to our VN era, and they preach a lot how VNs don't sell and how that shouldn't exist in FGO and etc.
Other than that, they usually say it is "higashide shit", "sakurai shit" or whatever author Nasu invited.
In a sense you could say that "Nasu trying to make FGO more VN-like" is destroying their waifu collection game.

>>30748200
I see, that's a good thing then

>>30748200
Modern Type Moon lore is fucking retarded. I doubt any /tmg/ poster cares about it beyond maybe the mentally ill fags that want Tsuki stuff on it thinking that the remake might me released soon.

>>30749139
Modern Type Moon is a mess and being rewritten every fucking second,
I'm not joking, Nasu already extend the story 2 times, created two in-universe retcon devices and is in his way to creat yet another.
It might be retarded but it fucking funny to watch.

>>30743100
>They had a character that develops feelings of love for the protag because she poisons everything she touches and the protag has poison resist, so she can actually interact with him.
Hold on a a second....

>>30748200
Does that mean self inserts fag are leaving the game? Does that mean it's getting worth getting into?

>>30750503
>Does that mean self inserts fag are leaving the game?
Yes, gradually.
>Does that mean it's getting worth getting into?
Depends on your standards. If not having selfinserts is the only requirement, go for it.

>>30750793
>Depends on your standards. If not having selfinserts is the only requirement, go for it.
Enjoying the story without having to cringe every time a character is romantically attracted to (YOU) for no reason, I guess.
Is the story any good actually?

>>30751119
It is getting good imo. Kinda fillery, but there are some interesting misteries to solve along the way.
The addition of old nasuverse elements is also nice if you're into that.
I am also starting to like the Animusphere for what they seem to mean in the whole scheme.
The furigana that was revealed when Kirschtaria made the Anima Animusphere chant is pretty revealing of what they're about.

>>30745764
That pic is full of bullshit. Summer Abby is 100% in love with (you), describes herself as "your small lover," talks about going on dates with (you), and so on. Even the living Abby doesn't really care about the whole elder god thing and is only trying to find a way to resurrect her dead gf.

>>30754076
Summer yes, the normal one, debatable.
And they don't want debatable for (You)s.

>>30754151
Summer one is normal one in a bikini. It's not really debateable because the only room for argument is her oneitis that the Servant one conveniently has amnesia over.

>>30754255
Well, even then Abby is clearly not enough for them.
They want moar.

>>30750358
Except it was actually good.

Finished Hisui route, and I gotta say, this is one of the few times where Good Ending is a lot better than True Ending.
Also does that mean Kohaku was the true villain of Tukihime? She seems to be the one who set up the whole story. aside from Micheal of course.

>>30760480
>spoiler
Keep reading.

Archer is literally me

https://twitter.com/MAKO_010/status/1338487085355782144

>>30764871
Akiha is so pretty

>>30764871
I like it ~~

The cards seems to be nice, there's even magical amber.

https://dis-code.booth.pm/items/2079215

>>30760480
Hisui True is probably the best culmination of all the plots in the Far side for me. You get to see sides of characters that were hidden up till this point and the ending fits being bittersweet since the situation with the Tohno, both in Shiki's and Kohaku's case, was fucked to begin with.
Still love Kohaku's route tho

>>30765014
Yes

>>30765403
Thought Aoko had a hilariously oversized bust there, but she is standing square on so its her arm.

>>30765403
the fuck is up with that blur?

>>30751384
"Kinda fillery" is giving it a lot of credit when it's been entirely filler for 3 fucking years now

>>30751384
? It's just says Grand Order and Animusphere, am I missing something here?

>>30771558
Thats a print of a frame and obviously not the thing that is being talked about anon.

>>30770278
probably has that dumb "get it yourself" mentality

>>30776470
wait nvm im retarded its from the artist themself

>>30775013
Ah okay. But I mean, tbf it IS a image of Kirsomething using a spell in fgo, Anima Animushpere is written on the frame and there is furigana.

I LOVE Arcueid

>>30760480
You will lean how awful the entire mansion is.

>>30788540
Who had the better route and romance, Arc or Saber?

>>30794913
Saber, because her entire backstory is revealed in her own route, while the rest of Arcueid's is revealed in Ciel's route.
And also because Saber shares a bigger connection to Shirou since he has Avalon.

>>30788540
I want to go to an arcade with arc.

Is it ok if I like Kotomine Kirei?

>>30815341
of course

>>30794913
Saber by a long mile.

>>30815341
yes Shirou

>>30745764
Taking /fgog/ at face value is a bad idea.
That post is mostly shitposting to fan the flames of a pointless war. One anon already pointed out Summer Abby. Himiko is another that is clearly is interested in the player character.
I also wouldn't say that one anon being mad about Karna is representative of waifufags as a whole. He has a pretty positive reception all over and even in /fgog/ as a refreshing change and a entertaining servant. Sorry to rain upon the doom parade.

It is true that character writing has gotten a lot better regarding servant relationships. Pairing Bryn with Sigurd definitvely, is probably the best thing they could have done lore-wise. I feel sorry for the few Brynhildr waifufags, but at the same time if you were going to waifu a character that canonically has an obsession with another man, I don't know what you were expecting.

>>30840681
Bryn wasn't very popular in the first place. They need to take someone actually popular and start shipping them, that's the real test of courage

>>30840739
Hmm, not sure who would be a good candidate for that. At the very least it would have to happen in a story chapter. Forced shipping would be a bad idea. What currently seething people might forget is that they actively deny shippings as well. Semiramis and Amakusa is one I remember off the top of my head. She pretty much denies any romantic feelings for him carrying over from Apocrypha. Jeanne Alter getting in the teacup ride with Amakusa during oni halloween and being actively displeased with it is another denial. Amakusa Shirou gets no bitches in F/GO.

>>30848334
Proper intakes or no deal.

Are there any news on new El-Melloi books?

>>30854583
One week until the release date. But not long ago, someone posted an excerpt of an interview where Sanda said Adventures would take place outside of London + it would be a one big story instead of having smaller arcs like Case Files + the main cast would still be the same as CF + more guest characters from various TM works

>>30854583
Vol 1 synopsis
>"Thus, I ask the God"
>El-Melloi II and Gray visit Singapore during summer for a lecture at a Clock Tower branch.
>In a country of mixed cultures, they meet a young man named Ergo. The Sixth Origin from Atlas appears to be on the trail of this mysterious young man. What is the ancient experiment carried out by the Atlas Institute, the Wandering Sea Baldanders and another magician? And what is the name of God that El-Melloi II shall ask?
>"The Adventures of Lord El-Melloi II", where magecraft and legends blend together with illusion and myths, begins.

Dunno if this was done already, but I think it is worth leaving it here in case someone didn't pay attention.
This is the Anima Animusphere chant.
>1 Starsスターズ
>2 Cosmosコスモス
>3 Godsゴッズ
>4 Animusアニムス
>5 Antrum?アントルム
>6 Unverse?Universe?アンバース
>7 Anima, Animusphereアニマ、アニムスフィア
Which are the furigana respectively to
>1 星の形。
>2 宙の形。
>3 神の形。
>4 我の形。
>5 天体は空洞なり。
>6 空洞は虚空なり。
>7 虚空には、神ありき
First three are the words for star星, space宙 and god神. The addition would be the 形 which doesn't add much, as it just means "form, shape, figure". Therefore, the four first lines are always "form of X".
On the fourth something changes, as the equivalent for animus is 我(われware) which is either 'I' or 'myself' depending on the syntax.
Then we have sentences that brings 3 new terms which are 天体tentai celestial body, 空洞cavity, 虚空kokuu empty space. It is important to notice that all these words are nouns.
So, assuming such information, the translation should be:
>5 Celestial Bodies are located in a cavity
>6 Cavity is located in the empty space
>7 At the empty space, God resides.
Also, the seventh line has as its furigana the "Anima Animusphere" compound. That is, when you pronounce this two words, you're declaring that 'God resides at the empty space'.

Did you notice that this is a description of a layered structure? And not only that, that it has a hierarchy? First we have stars, then we have the heavens, then we have gods, then we have the individual spirit/mind, then we have celestial bodies, then the empty space, then the emptyness itself and finally, God.
When Kirschtaria uses tha Meteor Shower magic he starts another chant, to which I prefer calling a prayer because it has a vocative:虚空の神よ that is 'Oh God of the Void'.
I find this rather interesting considering what we know about the root, how it is the equivalent of the throne of God, how it holds the source to omniscience, a godly trait, and so on.

What do you think? Is there anything on what you read on older works that might link to it?

>>30858737
Seeing "void" reminds me of KnK (though the "void" in that is simply 空). I'm not that well-versed in the nasuverse, but maybe it has something to do with the Root or something.

Lore autists who can't let go are the worst.
It's utter garbage.

>>30859804
The Void in KnK also uses 空, which also means heaven.
So yeah it is the same thing.

>>30856828
Sounds interesting.

I've read FSN, FHA and watched the Fate Zero's anime adaptation. Should i start on the el melloi books? I've watched the adaptation but understood none.

>>30858737
>5 Antrum?アントルム
This is definitely Antrum
>6 Unverse?Universe?アンバース
Could also be Unbirth too
I kind of doubt if 虚空 is really connected to the Root though since Nasu has always referred to the Root as 空 only. Both 虚 (hollow) and 空 (void) can mean emptiness, 虚 has the implication of shallowness/falseness and that it's empty because of lacking in (meaningful) substances. Meanwhile 空 has the implication of "not being bound by anything else", it's just emptiness or void straightforward which makes sense for Nasu to use this word while referring to the Root. Though honestly who knows? I could be wrong anyway.

On an unrelated note, I have this stupid thought without any basis that Daybit is going to be the first character with 空 element in Nasuverse.

>>30860561
You element in which sense?
Asking because Shiki already has 「　」 as origin which is also 空.

>>30860695
As in the element/alignment in magecraft...? 虚 (hollow, also called imaginary numbers) and 空 (void, can be translated as nothingess too) are the two imaginary elements. Sakura, Trisha and Lev has hollow. Still no character with void element though.

>>30861198
Oh regarding magic element. Yeah, indeed.

>>30860561
Forgot to mention this in my previous post. Since the Animusphere (Marisbilly, to be more specific) want to reach the Root through Chaldeas so yeah that chant might be related to the Root somehow. Also in Mahoyo ch12 during the Aozaki sisters battle, there is this 天の外の神

>>30848643
Remake Arcueid is just technology progressing past the need for large vent intakes. Nowadays, you don't need massive vents.

>>30859886
I've understood 空 in the sense of KnK to mean "emptiness," but this could also translate to "void" in a certain sense. I'm not sure if "heaven" is appropriate unless you're going off of the "sky" meaning? Or not well versed enough in nasuverse shit.

>>30863873
or I'm*

>>30863873
>unless you're going off of the "sky" meaning?
Exactly that.
There is an equivalence of sky and "god's place" usually, even in fgo.

>>30868947
Okay, I see. I don't play FGO jp unfortunately (I don't think my japanese is good enough for it) but that's good to know.

>>30871714
lol

>>30858737

SO YOUR TELLING ME VOID SHIKI IS GOING TO DESTORY FGO? FUCK YAES HER TIME OF RECKONING HAS COME

>>30860485
I'd personally say read Knk + Tsukihime first since Sanda incorporates lore from all over the Nasuverse in Case Files. You could just read the el melloi books now anyway if you really wanted to since you know the main parts though.

>>30858737
Animuspheres are trying to create a new "God" to manage the Pruning Phenomenon instead of humanity itself. The goal is to coalesce all the timelines into a single "possibility", as that is the only way to make future certain.
It is done via the Cyber Daemon LAPLACE and all of the equipment at Chaldea, most importantly Chaldeas.

>>30874942
dude what the fuck

>>30863283
And also progressing past the need for a different face, body, and hair, apparently.
Nowadays every character is the same.

>>30858737
Post yfw
>ENTERS: GOD

>>30881445
Everything is just so efficient so naturally it looks the same

>>30877209
>read Knk
I've watched it. Does that count?
>Tsukihime
Already did. Although I have to reread KT at some other time

>>30889576
>I've watched it. Does that count?
I'd recommend reading it as well when you're in the mood. It's worth it. But yeah, you have more than enough background knowledge for Case Files.

>>30874942
No lol Shiki Void is just someone who knows everything as God would, but she is not God.

>>30877882
This is funny because they would be litterally killing all potential things humans could be with the risk of making a future that actually is shit.
Also, there's also a theory that the Animusphere actually want to take all prunned worlds that stagnated and make them "continue" on different celestial bodies.
It would be a way of conquering all universe by overwriting it with different humanity futures.

>>30898559
>This is funny because they would be litterally killing all potential things humans could be with the risk of making a future that actually is shit.
The Animusphere "problem" is that human history has been unstable ever since the AD era. The reason for it is the fracturing of the timelines as the Human Order covered the planet. Marisbury wants humanity to have a safe and certain future, and that requires eliminating all possibilities but one.
>Also, there's also a theory that the Animusphere actually want to take all prunned worlds that stagnated and make them "continue" on different celestial bodies.
The evidence doesn't really support it. There was never meant to be more than one Lostbelt (LB5). The fact that there's 7 is just because Kirscht wanted to save his co-masters.

>>30860561
>虚 has the implication of shallowness/falseness and that it's empty because of lacking in (meaningful) substances.
You know, in hermetic esoterism, God has a number to which it is 0, exactly because of the Void and emptiness value.
This is because God is interpreted as something that has "infinite potential" because everything is created by Him.
Although 虚 has indeed the idea of fake, that kanji form is kinda "problematic" because he is also the outdated form of 空. I would have to search more on the use of kanji to make it more detailed.
However, I would say that the focus should be on the compound 虚空 and its uses, and one of them is actually a buddhist concept: Ākāśagarbha which in sanscrit is आकाशगर्भ . Do you see the first part of the word, आकाश? They are pronounced commonly as "Akasha". 虚空 is आकाश. Try to search what आकाश means.
This is one of the Bodhisattva that is related to, you guessed it, void.
Also, the one religion that has an intense philosophy on the idea that God = Void is buddhism and we know Nasuverse is heavily influenced by it.

Always remember that Shiki kanji name 式 is litterary the kanji equivalent to the buddhist concept of Vijñāna to which two of them are known to us: ālāyavijñāna and amalavijñāna, that is, Alayashiki and Mukushiki. The second is the name of the Noble Phantasm Void Shiki uses on melty blood and FGO, which is described as something that comes directly from Nirvana (which is most probably what the Root is). And yes, Nasu is probably trying to make in his universe that Christian Heaven and probably all paradise concepts from other religions = Nirvana.

>>30877882
>The goal is to coalesce all the timelines into a single "possibility"
Huh so they are forcing a Steins Gate?

>>30900747
Haven't read that so don't know

>>30898721
>The evidence doesn't really support it. There was never meant to be more than one Lostbelt (LB5). The fact that there's 7 is just because Kirscht wanted to save his co-masters.
But then Marisbury gave every Crypters the Siriuslight long ago eventhough Kirschtaria was the only one who knew its true purpose. Also A-Team were supposed to solve Singularity F together as well. Anyway, Pepe did say all of this shit had been set up from the very beginning so whatsoever I guess.

>>30900194
>However, I would say that the focus should be on the compound 虚空 and its uses, and one of them is actually a buddhist concept: Ākāśagarbha which in sanscrit is आकाशगर्भ . Do you see the first part of the word, आकाश? They are pronounced commonly as "Akasha". 虚空 is आकाश. Try to search what आकाश means.
>This is one of the Bodhisattva that is related to, you guessed it, void.
Huh, this is interesting. I didn't know about this before.
>Also, the one religion that has an intense philosophy on the idea that God = Void is buddhism and we know Nasuverse is heavily influenced by it.
Yeah. The difference between the meaning of 虚 and 空 that I said before were pretty much a Buddhism concept too.

>>30900194
>Always remember that Shiki kanji name 式 is litterary the kanji equivalent to the buddhist concept of Vijñāna
no it isn't retard
vijnana is 識

>>30906541
I think Nasu likes to make that kind of connection/wordplay. Even if the character for Shiki is not that of vijnana, I don't think it is a coincidence.

All of >>30900194 was very interesting to read though

"Type Moon has changed.

It's no longer about visual novels, storytelling, or ideals. It's an endless series of waifufagging necrophilia battles, fought by gachafags and phones.

TM--and it's consumption of life--has become a well soulless machine.

TM has changed.

ID-tagged fans carry ID-tagged phones, use ID-tagged FGO merch. Dopamine's inside their brain enhance and regulate their d!ck.

Genetic control, information control, addiction control, horny control…everything is monitored and kept under control.

TM…has changed.

The age of TYPE-MOON has become the age of gacha, all in the name of milking FATE series of averting soul TM works, and he who controls the system, controls Fate.

TM…has changed.

When the company is under total control, FGO becomes routine.”

I got spoiled on who Mahoyo's antagonist is, is that gonna hurt the experience when I'm finally able to read the translation or is it established pretty quickly?

>>30913539
I got spoiled too. It lessened the experience a bit, but I still enjoyed it a lot. Can't do anything about it now, just try to enjoy it as much as you can when you're able to read it

Please don't call Arc autistic. She is smart and quick.

>>30913627
Damn, I still plan on playing it whenever it's finished but that's a bit disheartening. It's not exactly an easy spoiler to dodge, either. Thanks for the answer though.

>>30913539
>>30913627
>>30914110
It was incredibly obvious had you seen any previous TM work which contained such things, or reading threads in the last 8 years.
I mean, you need to be a newfag or incredibly fortunate to not know.

>>30916068
I've seen/played pretty much all the "major" works and it never seemed that obvious to me. That's why I asked if Mahoyo treats the antagonist reveal like a surprise or mystery, since if it did the expectation is that the player wouldn't know. I guess I'll just have to find out for myself, hopefully by sometime next year.

>>30916068
I'll admit that I'm a bit of a newfag, and clarify that I wasn't spoiled before I started reading mahoyo, but about half way through. There were plenty of moments during the VN where I heavily suspected who the antagonist would end up being
Therefore having it (accidentally) spoiled didn't ruin my experience per se, but it definitely lessened it even if I had a decent guess as to how things might play out

>>30913539
Now not really, that plot is more of a backdrop, the real focus of the story is the three main characters' interactions

>>30916718
It's not a twist at all, I don't know what people are talking about. It's revealed like halfway through the game and is incredibly obvious before that

>>30922344
The main antagonist being anybody else would be a twist.
I mean, to not know means not knowing any of the various references before Mahoyo was released.

>>30906541
indeed, I completely didn't pay attention, I need to stop writing this things when I'm sleepy lol
Sorry for the mistake

>>30911486
>Even if the character for Shiki is not that of vijnana
The mistake on the kanji doesn't remove the connection though
The mukushiki concept is still a thing on Void Shiki hougu.

who is
who is mahoyos antaganist

>>30913539
Mate, you can figure out the main antagonist of Mahoyo in like 2 chapters.

>>30929553
you okay anon?
>>30931022
Not really no. And you can't figure out who it is early unless you already know fateverse pretty well.
Anyway >>30922177

I want to sniff Aoko's butt.

Is Apocrypha worth reading if you haven't read everything else yet?

>>30945111
If japanese, sure
If English, the LN translation nor the manga translation are complete, so the anime is your only option

>>30945111
Yes. I found the LN much better than the anime.

An idea from this Reddit posts interested me'

https://www.reddit.com/r/typemoon/comments/kg3hql/personal_typemoon_projects/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Particularly patching together a fan-edit for tsukihime using the (non-existent), Carnival Phantasm and the VN.

The guy gave it up since he thought rockman lab would try animating the whole thing, though I thought he could have just integrated that as well.

Honestly the idea interests me, do you anons think it'd have a chance at working?

Even just as a shortened version of the Visual Novel.

>>30936152
>get attacked by mysterious puppets
GEE WHO COULD IT BE. I mean if Mahoyo is literally the first type-moon work you read OK but it's really obvious.

>>30952175
And they are none other than puppets that look like Aoko.
Only one person could pull that off.

When Mahoyo was first released I was convinced Soujuurou is the werewolf because of his suspicous throat wound and bandaging

>>30952175
>unless you already know fateverse pretty well.
The only your proved was showcasing you can't read.

>>30952175
>unless you already know fateverse pretty well.
The only thing your post proved was showcasing you can't read.

>>30965695
>>30966379
Alright you have to admit it's kinda funny you missed a word in your first post after calling out someone else's ability to read

>>30966827
Yes. Actually I missed two. You still can't read tho

>>30913539
I've played Tsukihime, Kagetsu Tohya, Melty blood, Fate and HA and I got spoiled on every single one of them before playing them.

Still enjoyed them a lot despite of that.

Which TM girl would make the best mother? [FGO-onlies need not apply.]

>>30971445
Rin even says she's motherly in the prologue

Also Akiha's friend Hanei since she has the biggest rack of all the Tsuki girls, a motherly trait

>>30946774
ask reddit and stay there

>>30966379
Watching a handful of KnK movies is not "know[ing] fateverse pretty well".

>>30980458
you're insufferable

>>30980581
Stop making dumb excuses. All you need to know is who the fuck Touko is. She appears in almost everything; it's not "deep" knowledge.

>>30973040
Mate i'm just asking if the project would be possible, couldn't give a shit about the 4chan vs reddit bollocks.

>>30971906
Please don't use the r word

>>30988327
When they still had their soul

>>30989342
That came from HF2 BD Q&A, though

>>30999663
Yes? I don't follow

>>30986043
Rigger.

>>30986043
Realta Nua

So I finally managed to finish Tsukihime.
I can see why people really like Tsukihime, but I also see why Tsukihime really does need a remake, overall, I'm looking forward to the remake (which I know it will never comes out)

I guess all that's left is Tsukihime Plus, Kagetsu Tohya, Melty Blood Re-Act and
Melty Blood Actress Again so I can fully enjoy Carnival Phantasm.
Oh and I just realized I managed to finish it just in time before Arcueid's birthday and Tsukihime's 20th anniversary.

How original were the concepts of Fate (servants, contracts, projection etc.) when Nasu wrote them around 2004? Did he essentially come up with these ideas? Not really familiar with the literature.

>>31043427
Did you remember to read the Eclipse? Occasionally people forget to do that, somehow.

>>31043427
>I also see why Tsukihime really does need a remake
Why exactly? I don't see anything particular other than adding voices and maybe expanding the soundtrack. Though Nasu doesn't really like voices, so the remake might not even offer that.

>>31045849
the art is egregious

>>31046533
you are egregious
tsukihime art isn't

>>31046658
it really, really is

>>31046706
and you really, really are egregious

>>31046533
Not where it really counts, like the characters, the expressions, the whole internal consistency of the aesthetics in terms of projecting a transcendental Reality Marble which attacks the very concept of egregiousness

I'd be smug too if I was a living weapon of destruction whom any virile human would lust over.
And nobody could do a damn thing about it.

>>31049963
that was a random post

The problem with Tsukihime, be it scenario or art is not being "bad" or whatever word.
It is the lack of content.
There are lot of things that are underdeveloped and thus in an unfinished like state.
The remake, as explained by Takeuchi and Nasu on that typemoon ace, will bring LOTS of details to the point of making Tsukihime comparable to an exploration mystery game.
I don't about the art being better, because usually this is a matter of taste, however, we will for sure have:
>more expression sprites
>probably different clothing for different scenes
And whatever you complain, that's very enriching in many many ways.

The problem of early 2000 Tsukihime is not that the art is egregious or whatever.
It is that it was very lacking in variations and detailing. And not limited to art, but text too.
One of the things TsukihimeR will have (assuming it ever will release) in terms of art that was exaplained on that TMace issue was the additional content and details.
If you pay attention, we will have things that will make Tsukihime comparable to a mystery exploration game.
Do you remember those options of "go back" "go forward"? They could probably be actually relevant. Or just better.
This also means more details on the lore and development of the scenario (although this part could have some issues because FGO).
The other thing that would happen, and you who played Mahoyo knows it, is
>clothing variation
>acessories variation
>more CGs (probably animated assuming they keep mahoyo style)
>More expressions.
Even if you hate the remake, those things are actually VERY enriching and will result in tons of doujin (as in fan related) content.
Imagine the amount of things we will be able to see Kohaku doing to tease Shiki.
Imagine the amount of subtle expressions Hisui will make.
Imagine Akiha sadist speeches with new CGs...
I mean, even if I hated the new designs, I would still be very eager to see how things would work out.

>>31051154
meh, it was fine, art was just bad

>>31051204
sorry for having deleted, I made a better text later
also, what was just bad? the new design?

>>31051198
Exactly. Like I always say: just imagine Tsukihime but with Mahoyo budget. You'd have a godly, enhanced soundtracks, amazing effects, shitloads of CGs, etc. It could be a 10/10 game with better presentation.

>>31051198
what matters is if I can fuck arcueid still

>>31052494
I actually forgot to add.
TsukihimeR also means
MORE
BARE
LEGS
ARCUEID
CGs

>>31052494
That's probably the main reason for development hell, the h-scenes... He can't just throw them out, he can't just keep them as they were. There's your infinite rabbit hole.

>>31052737
As long as I can keep my Ciel with glasses, I'm fine.

>>31045786
Yeah I did.
Best way to end Tsukihime.
I will assume I learn more about her in Kagestu Tohya.

>>31045849
In comparison to FSN, Tsukihime REALLY feels outdated. You're correct about adding voices, and music, and I will get onto that

> Severe lack of CGs
This is the biggest issue I have with Tsukihime. There are so many moments and fights where you could have CGs for, such as Shiki vs Micheal and Kohaku being crucified by Akiha's hair. These moments really deserves to have their own CGs considering how memorable and important they are, and have many reusable CGs for character fights just like how FSN does.
It's weird how HALF of Tsukihime CGs are just h-scenes, something some people would just skip it.
So I really hope the remake have much more CGs than what Tsukihime currently.

> Music
Like you said, they should expand the soundtrack, because having the same 8 songs (technically 10, but 1 song only plays in credits and the other for h-scenes) being played for the whole VN, let alone the whole route, is not enough, especially considering Tsukihime's length. There should be some songs played for certain fights and moments, and some for made for character themes, since it's very easy to get tired of the same song being played multiple times.

> Sound design
If FSN can have sick sound design, why can't Tsuki have it too?
It would be nice having variety of sound effects since it would make the fights more enganing.

> Voices
Self-explatonry.
Voices make the experince better and more enjoyable.

> Shiki's design
At this point, Shiki's design in Tsukihime's VN is severly outdated.
I mean come on, he looks the typical h̶e̶n̶t̶a̶i self-insert protagnist even though he actually's the oppsite of that.
Also weird how it's always mentioned that Shiki wear glasses yet he never appears to wear one in any of CGs.

> Outdated engine
Ok this one is pretty minor since not many care about it, but it would better having Tsukihime made in the same engine as FSN.

I would also argue how Tsukihime needs a remake to have much better writing given how experienced Nasu is now, but I fear he can no longer do that.

Nasu is so far gone Tsukihime remake will barely even be a remake
I'd be really surprised if even 1 character in the game is close to the original

The remake won't be released until 2025 at least, why are you getting so uppity about it.
Is this the end of decemeber syndrome?

>>31068489
the 20th anniversary is in 8 days.

>>31084910
you mean, the nothinburger memorial day