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Delicious trap protagonist.

I've heard so many good things about this game I tried to play it, but it seems to be too much for my level. I hope it gets chosen for Ixrec's next project.

>>3032542
>>3032543
>>3032554
Alright, these three pictures convienced me.

>>3032542
That girl looks cute enough, I approve.

>games you wish were translated
Muv Luv;_;

>>3032572
quite

Amagami

Hana to Otome ni Shukufuku wo

I left it midway Rui's route so I could start Sharin. Now I don't have any motivation to pick it up again.

I'd like to see Yosuga no Sora translated.

NARCISSU 2/3 WHERE

>>3032612
>Hana to Otome ni Shukufuku wo
Not worth the time. Go play Shizuru's route, I can tell you what happens, you can use your imagination to rebuild the plot and fap away to "the little girl".

id prefer a game where you get to "bang the trap", instead of "be the trap"

Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai

I am the meganekko. I am the worst character in the game. I have the dumbest curse and I am overshadowed in my own route by a sub-character who is far superior to me.

Gore Screaming Show, but i'd be fine with anything by BLACK CYC

>>3032660
Same here. Unless there's an otome style game where you play the trap.

Trap on female just isn't appealing.

>>3032660
I prefer to play as the trap.

opinions

>>3032721
Seconded, no enjoyment from banging a trap here.

Flyable Heart

>>3032542
Doesn't her H-scene involve putting it in, screaming, taking it back out, and then ending?

Because that sounds hilarious.

http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89470
I have the ISO since last year.
http://www.getchu.com/soft.phtml?id=457645
The art looks just great

You've probably spoiled yourself to fucking hell if you're looking at the CG pack.

>>3032751
What a beautiful people

>>3032751
>The art looks just great
Just like all Liar-Soft games, then.

>>3032764
also, doll-joints

Otome wa Boku

>>3032833
This.

Is there any way we can increase the chances of this being translated? Anyone I can e-mail to get some attention to it? For some reason I'm fairly interested in having this happen.

>>3032542
link to cg set? I looked for it before but couldn't find shit, I probably got the name wrong.

>>3032896
I just typed ruitomo CG into Google.

http://www.badongo.com/file/13211822

>>3032876
Ixrec's poll would be best bet most likely. If he doesn't have it as an option, could suggeest it.

>>3032876

Amaterasu is going to have a vote for their next TL project and RuiTomo appears like it will make the voting list. So be sure to vote for it when the time comes.

Unfortunately their site appears to be down at the moment, so have an archive thread:
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2998562

btw, the site is back up, also the current list of VN candidates of next translation is:

3 days ~Michiteyuku Toki no Kanata de~
AIR
Baldr Force
Baldr Sky Dive1 "LostMemory"
Beat Blades Haruka
Daiakuji
Daibanchou/Big Bang Age
Extravaganza
France Shoujo ~Une Fille Blanche~
Gore Screaming Show
Gunjou no Sora wo Koete
H2O: Footprints in the Sand
Haruka Ni Aogi Uruwashino
Himawari
Hime Gari Dungeon Meister
HoneyComing
Hoshizora no Memoria
I/O
Ikusa Megami Zero
Itsuka, Todoku, Ano Sora Ni
Kara no Shoujo
Kizuato Remake Edition
Kono Yo no Hate de Koi wo Utau Shoujo YU-NO
Kusari
Little Busters!
Magical Language Lyrical☆Lisp (added for lulz)
Mugen Kairou 1
MuvLuv
Narcissu: Side 2nd + Narcissu 3rd -Die Dritte Welt- (due to brevity, both will be counted as one game for voting purposes)
Never7 -the end of infinity-
12Riven -the Ψcliminal of integral-
RuiTomo
Saihate no IMA
Secret Game -Killer Queen- Depth Edition (chosen edition for this entrant may change)
Seinarukana
Sekien no Inganock -What a Beautiful People-
Shikkoku no Sharnoth ~what a beautiful tomorrow~
Shiokaze no Kieru Umi ni
Shoujo Mahou Gaku Little Witch Romanesque
Suigetsu
Swan Song
Yami to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito
Yoake Mae yori Ruri Iro na
Yosuga no Sora - In solitude, where we are least alone.

In the thread there is now also how the voting procedure is going to go. the thread is is still open, so go there to suggest something if you like to try to get it translated. Personaly I would like to see some hard sci-fi or horror VN translated because we lack those, enough with the drama/trap genre atleast for now, not saying that ruitomo wouldn't be good, but something else for a chance.

>>3034424
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I don't know what to choose.

>>3034424
Way too many choices.

>>3034424
There's so many that I would like to see translated.

>>3034424
There's so many I'd like to see translated. Fuck.

Watch it be decided by one or two votes with each game having no more than 20 votes,

>>3034424
Aren't some of those already being translated, albeit slowly?

>>3034428
Anything with gameplay, so if you some reason you dont like the scenario, you still have the game to have fun with.

>>3034424
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>>3034424
>Little Busters
Someone should tell him that's being translated. Not even slowly, either.

>>3034424
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>>3034424
Good luck with France Shoujo. Little birdie told me the script is 6 megabytes in size, and it's filled with gratuitous pre-WWII kanji even for the simplest of words.

>>3034454
Isn't Air being translated too?

>>3034461
Yes, but I'm not sure if it's still being worked on. The translators might have dropped it.

What about 11eyes? an anime will be out in October, to boot.

>>3034460
Fuck.

For lulz ixrec should translate Succubus Soon, as it's not like we'll ever get Shera, My witch.

>>3034471
Tag: Blood-related Brother/Sister Incest

>>3034513
>lulz

sup, /b/?

>>3034424
>enough with the drama/trap

How many translated trap VNs are there?

>>3034527
Zero?

>>3034460
Pre-WWII kanji? Ain't it just Traditional Chinese?

OP here. I just found a far superior board without morons so I'm leaving Retardchan forever now:

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>>3034544
「其れとも、斯う言い直した方がいいかしら？　あれが殿方の言う無邪気い
少女だと言うなら、此の世に無邪気い少女は存在しない、と」

Well, pre-WWII, as in 1920's or so, meaning the characters don't use English based loanwords either, aside from the jolly merchant. There's a guy who speaks only Chinese too apparently.

>>3034471
It was listed under the possible licenseable category, for some reason.

>>3034576
Doesn't look too hard. It's just using kanjis to represent words that are usually rendered in hiragana.

Putting language aside, how's the plot?

>>3034596
Uncertain yet. It's apparently filled with routes and flags.

So far: the main character gets invited to a friend's mansion, the friend dies, the main character inherits him, including the "pure white girl". The friend's sister who came back from Shanghai is interested in the girl too. The main character is starting to have "thoughts" about the girl...

Honestly Swan Song is the best choice.
Awesome all the way through, short enough to be translated relatively quickly, it should be chosen.

>>3034641
No

Saihate no Ima is the only choice

>>3034424
ho, i want to see yamibou translated, unfortunately i don't think it's popular enough tho

I'm going with RuiTomo all the way.

It would be nice to see Yosuga no Sora translated, but I doubt it will.

For something lighter I would recommend Tsuyokiss.
Probably the funniest eroge I ever played, a joy to read all the way through, and it can also be very touching at times.

>>3034678
It would be nice to see it translated.

>>3034424
No Kusari-Hime or Ayakashibito?...

>>3034686
If we're going to get Ixrec to translate something, it should be something challenging, since he likes a challenge, and those of us who can read some Japanese can easily read something like Yosuga. It'll probably get a translation eventually anyway because any talentless tard can translate something like that. Besides, he said he had to find it "excellent", and while I love Yosuga since I'm a big fan of twincest, Ixrec might not.

This is why we should vote for Saihate.

Sekai de Ichiban dame na koi too, this one is my favorite pure love type eroge, really heartwarming, funny and touching.
No wonder it was elected as the best eroge of 2007 by 2ch.

>>3034714
I think we should just clone Ixrec...

>>3034712
Yeah the lack of Ayakashibito is surprising.
It's fucking awesome too.

>>3034577
"Possible" licenseable? Not even scanlators or fansubbers drop something because it could "possibly" be licensed.

Good to see that after "Support JAST USA's official localizations of Nitro+ games!" VN fan translators have become spineless and overly cautious.

>>3034733
Hence why I've always wanted Anon to have its own translation group.

>>3034714
Yeah, you're right. I really doubt he'll find Yosuga no Sora excellent or anything close to it. It would be nice if someone would translate it in the future. So I guess I'll be voting for Saihate when the time comes.

For those complaining that something isn't in the list, just reg to the forums and suggest it, that realy doesn't take that long.

And those who are too lazy to check the thread, the poll will be done in 3 different phases. phase 1 is now when everyone can suggest anything, 2 phase will be sometime soon?maybe? when everyone is given at max three points to vote on the VNs on the list, these points maybe up or down votes, but not on the same tittle multiple times. 3 phase is the actual poll which consist of 10? top scorers of phase 2.
So those who think the list is too big, it will be smaller in the actual poll.

I'll recommend Tsukutori.
A murder mystery sets in a small and creepy village.
The story is really good and the characters are all very interesting.

>Kara no Shoujo
Well, I know what I'm voting for.

>>3034731
I knew that not a lot of people know about it, but didn't think that much.
I remember making threads asking where was the Chrono Belt torrent when it got released and people answered me, maybe they are more fans of Bullet Butlers, which is an awesome VN too.

>>3034424
What.
Ruitomo kind of is a horror VN.

Fucking no you morons. We recently had enough games of that type and I'm not talking about digusting traps in general. What we need is more real deal games because such games are pretty much scarce, especially the ones with some quality. I'm talking about games like the Type-Moon ones, Ever17, Chaos;HEad and Saya as all of them are fucking awesome man with only G-Senjou and Cartagra being in translation process right now.

MORE REAL DEAL LIKE SWAN SONG, I/O OR G0RE. PERIOD. VOTE FOR IT. NIGGERS.
AND GTFO WITH DISG TRAP GAEMS, WITH FAULTY LOGIC AND RETARDED POTLINES

>>3034884
>Cartagra
Have they made anymore progress? Or is it still stalled?

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>>3034884

>>3034884
>FAULTY LOGIC AND RETARDED POTLINES
How was Ruitomo's plot anymore retarded than other supernatural horror shit?

>>3034577
What? And the reason behind this claim is?

>>3034884
>>Type-Moon
>>Chaos;HEad
>>Fucking awesome
I can't sage enough.
Also that mentality of ZOMG IT'S A THRILLER SO IT MUST BE AUTOMATICALLY GOOD, THIS ONE HAS A TRAP AND LOOK KIND OF MOE SO IT MUST BE SHIT is really fucking retarded.

You are just a shallow faggot, the genre they are in doesn't really matter, the only thing that does is how well they are executed..

>>3034914
You can't sage a god damn post. Learn to sage. No, actually, just get out.

>>3034826
Sorry if I'm lazy to check the thread, but could you post the link of the forum?
I would like to read more about it and vote.

>>3034914
I said we had enough games like that recently, for example C+C, Kira Kira, FP, Shuffle this month and Little Busters and Sharin in the making (maybe ready for the start of 2010)
So yeah, needs more real deal. Remember11 will be finished somewhere at the end of 2010 and only Cartagra and G-senjoi are being worked on while the last real deal game is already closing on the one year mark

>>3034926
http://amaterasu.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=25.0

>>3034931
>real deal
Who cares about your subjective opinion? And how can you say G-Senjou is "real deal" and Sharin isn't? They're both written by the same guy, and they're both more than just moe shit.

>>3034941
Sharin = slice of life with some drama and G-senjou the complete opposite

>>3034931
"Real deal" doesn't mean shit, you are just a shallow retard.

>>3034884
>>3034931
How the hell did you find your way in here? Go back to watching Naruto and Bleach in /a/.

>>3034424
>Personaly I would like to see some horror VN translated because we lack those
>not saying that ruitomo wouldn't be good, but something else for a chance.
???

>>3034937
Thanks, sir.

>>3034972
hmm.. didn't know that ruitomo had horror elements that much, so how much does it have?

As it's been already said, there's an update from Ixrec, lengthily detailing the voting process and his plan for the upcoming poll. (First Image related, it's what I want you to vote for).
Do read it, since it's different than last time.
I copypasted it from here:
http://amaterasu.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=25.msg438#msg438
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Amaterasu Translations Project Selection Procedure

I, Ixrec, as leader and head translator of Amaterasu Translations, will select the subject of our next translation project through a three-stage voting process and a subsequent logistical process as outlined in excruciating and binding detail below.

== Voting Process

- Stage 1: Nominations

There will be or already is a thread in the forum for nomination of candidates. This time, it's located at <http://amaterasu.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=25.0>.. Any user may post in this thread and nominate any number of candidates, as long as they meet the requirements for eligibility (see below). However, I ask that all users not abuse this ability by nominating too many candidates that have no chance of victory in the later stages and thereby making the list ridiculously large. The nomination process will end whenever I choose to lock the thread, after which no more candidates may be nominated until next time.
=>

>>3035000
- Stage 2: Preliminary Voting

There will be or already is a thread in the forum for preliminary voting on nominated candidates. At the time of this writing, there isn't one. Any user may post in this thread and declare three total votes. Less is fine, but no more than three. Each vote may be either an upvote or a downvote, and may be declared for any candidate. However, you may not vote for the same candidate multiple times. Some of us (myself included) will manually tally the votes periodically as they are being cast. A candidate's score in this stage is its total upvotes minus its total downvotes. The preliminary voting process will end whenever I choose to lock the thread, at which time I will choose a number (likely around ten) of the top-scoring candidates as finalists. The list of finalists will be publicly posted shortly thereafter.

- Stage 3: The Poll

Our resident programmer (Nagato) will design an online poll with detailed information on the finalists, protection against multiple voting, and results only visible to us. The location of this poll will be posted in the forum once it is created. Users will use their names and passwords from the forum to log into the poll and select one candidate. Each user gets only one vote, and will not be able to downvote. The poll will end whenever I decide to lock the results, at which time they will be made visible to all users. The candidate with the most votes will be declared the winner, and will most likely be our next translation project. See below for probable exceptions.

- Future Voting

Once the winner is fully translated, or dropped and something else fully translated, this process will be repeated in much the same way. This document will be reposted at that time with appropriate changes. All finalists from this time will be automatically nominated next time, but they will receive no special advantages in the second or third stages of voting next time.

>>3035004
== Logistical Process

Following the end of the Cross Channel project, I plan to take a "break" from full-time translation work to do the following: oversee the reediting of MOON., play more visual novels, prepare for college, and write a fifth version of the JSM (if you don't know what that is, look in the forum). This break will most likely last a month or less. There is an outside chance I will decide to translate an extremely short and easy game during this time.

Ideally, it will be possible for me to begin translating the winner after the end of this break, and work on no other translation projects until it is completed.

But, in the event that the winner is extremely lengthy or unable to be hacked at the time of its victory, I will have to devise a long term project queue. The winner will in that event be in some form of "hiatus." This means that I have committed to translate it, but not immediately, and not without halting it periodically to do other projects. Whatever queue I devise will be publicly posted before any translation project begins.

If the winner cannot be hacked within a reasonable time after its victory, it will be put on hiatus and the runner-up translated first. If it cannot be hacked within a reasonable time after the runner-up is translated, another vote will take place, and the winner will have to win again in order to avoid being dropped.

If the winner is extremely lengthy, I will most likely split the project into two or more portions of managable size, and alternate those portions with other, shorter game(s) that also placed highly in the poll. The first portion of the winner will be done immediately, and other portions will be on hiatus. The runner-up (unless it's also extremely lengthy) will be translated between the first and second portions. All projects taking place after the second portion will be determined by future voting.

>>3035010

If both the winner and runner-up are extremely lengthy, I will have a second poll in which only relatively short games may be nominated in order to determine intermediate projects.

==Requirements for Eligibility

In order for a visual novel to be accepted as a candidate, it must meet the following conditions, as determined by me:

1. I must personally find the game to be of "excellent" or higher quality upon playing it.

2. I must decide that I am able to produce a translation of acceptable quality upon playing it.

As I simply do not have the time to play every single candidate, I may not be able play the winner to confirm these conditions until after its victory. If, when I do play it, I find it fails to meet one of them, it will be dropped and the runner-up translated instead.

It must also meet the following conditions, as determind by us:

3. It must be possible to hack. If it has not been hacked, it may end up on "hiatus" (see above).
4. It must not have a preexisting active translation project.
5. It must not be a likely candidate for licensing by any commercial translation company.

If the winner is found to not meet one of these conditions after its victory, it will be dropped and the runner-up translated instead.

Looking at the thread in that forum, Hoshizora no Memoria is the one that will get chosen.
You can't win against moefags after all.

>>3035018
>>3035010
>>3035004
>>3035000

I appreciate his translations, but jesus. Ixrec has let this go to his head and has become a complete faggot.

>>3032542
>Cons: It's fucking Lisp and not Python or something nice.
PROS: IT'S FUCKING LISP

>>3035027
What is in LISP?

also bump for real deal games

>>3035042
Isn't Naruto "real deal" enough for you?
>>>/a/

>>3035047
You have first to grow up before even considering of lecturing me anonymous

>>3035054
That's ironic coming from an obvious 14 year old.

>>3035056
hahaha owow butthurt underage cancerfag insulting other anonymous about being a 14y old shounenfag because he expressed his wish for more real deal games getting a translation. We don't need more comedies or sol games, we had Kira Kira, FP and Shuffle is coming out on the other side the last real deal games was Saya released somewhere in December.
Case closed. Fags will vote for real deal, you just watch names on the internet calling butthurt :3

>>3035068
What the fuck is a real deal game? English motherfucker, do you speak it?

This 'real deal' faggotry is the best troll of the night.

>>3035079
umad?

>>3035068
>hahaha owow
>butthurt
>cancerfag
>:3
Your trolling needs to be more subtle. You had me for a minute there, though.

>>3035079
>>3035068
Both of you stop trollbaiting each other.

>>3035068
>>:3
Fucking summer.

>>3035085
Wasn't my intention to either disappoint or catch you as I was dead serious, just that some trolls deserve nothing less than an answer of their own kind.

Real deal games are being wished for, we don't need a poll filled with such games. Just start a poll with Swan Song, Gore, I/O, 11eyez, Ayakashibito, Muv-Luv, Baldr Sky and other KID games. This shoud save lots of time and bandwith.

>>3035089
:3

>>3035098
Gore, Muv-Luv, Ayakashibito and most KID games have a fucking lot of slice of life scenes.
Your real deal shit is flawed and stupid.

>>3035098
>other KID games
Memories Off?

>>3035115
Suigetsu

>>3035114
Ayakashibito, along with Kanishino and Baldr Sky are currently negotiated by JAST. You can ask LoSs for further updates.

>>3035115
Memories Off was nice, but a lot of people don't seem to like it.

>>3035132
Suigetsu isn't by KID, they only adapted it for the PS2.
It's by F&C-F&C01.
Talking about them, I would love to see Konata yori Kanata Made translated, it's really short but pretty awesome.
Wouldn't take long to translate at all.

>>3035134
yeah sure

I hope rancefags won't notice the vote. It'll be ugly.

Personally hoping for Yosuga no Sora or Shikkoku no Sharnoth. The latter's engine is supposed to be extremely difficult to hack though.

>>3035271
It would be nice to see those translated.

>>3035271
Sounds good. Yosuga no Sora's not overly long, the engine's simple and the text is easy to read. The fandisc is coming out in a few months too (FUCK YEAH YAHIRO ROUTE).

>>3035302
I don't see Ixrec finding it "excellent", though. If you take away the twincest gimmick, it's fairly average.

Cute lolis, good scenario, what more could you want?

>>3035310
Voices.

>>3035302
Script Stats: 2.16MB
That's longer than Family Project, and double the length of Swan Song.

>>3035310
Voice acting

>>3035302
That fandisc cannot come out soon enough. I wish Sphere would update the fandisc site with some of Yahiro's CGs.

>>3035308
I loved it but wasn't interested in the twincest at all. Sora is my most disliked character in the game.

>>3035312
>>3035315
You guys are too spoiled, lots of good eroge don't have voices.

>>3035316
Yeah, me too. Yahiro had, what, two in the game itself? Sora had en entire route yet two preview pics are of her so far.

>>3035320
Who was your favorite?

>>3035324

Suigetsu doesn't have voice acting too.
Doesn't change the fact that it's awesome.

>>3035325
>Sora is my most disliked character in the game.
>Who was your favorite?
>Motoka
You have terrible taste.

>>3035333
Sorry? If it helps, I do have a soft spot for Nao as well.

>>3035322
I think she had four or five. Though most of them were the same CG with small differences. I'd love to see her in that sundress in the fandisc. There's four CGs in the gallery on the site so far and sadly none of them are of her.

>>3035338
She's the second worst character, just below Motoka. You're not helping your case here.

>>3035341
Given the layout of the corkboard and the fact the other two have two CGs a piece, I'm guessing the next two will be of Yahiro. I hope.

>>3035345
Yeah, well, I think your taste is awful.

>>3035352
I decided to check the site and they updated it. Sadly, still no images of Yahiro. I do hope we get to see atleast one of her CGs soon.

>>3035371
Hopefully.

Relationships between younger MCs and older women interest me, and given the apparently rather bitter past Yahiro's had, her path has huge potential. Hopefully it isn't too cut-down from the normal length given it's a fandisc.

>>3035310
100% bore-galore

>>3035021
Let's start voting then. Although Ruitomo is already in the unpopular category. Also it's occult genre, learning some new things about it.

>>3035383
I hope it isn't too cut down either. I'm really hoping they do a good job of handling her route.

Somebody translate Princess Lover!

Pretty please?

>>3035426
lol no

>>3035426
No. It's shit.

>>3035428
Desho? Why u no want moe~?

So is YnS being translated already or not? In the Op of the forum thread, it's listed as already in progress by somebody else, but it's also in the list posted here.

>>3035433
Last I heard, there's an amateur translator trying to translate it, but I doubt it will get anywhere.

>>3035438
Hopefully it doesn't stop other translators from trying. It'd be a fucking shame to have one idiot tie up any potential translation efforts.

>>3035438
Is there any blog or anything?

>>3035452
Not that I'm aware of. It would be nice if there was one though.
>>3035448
It would be a shame. It would be nice to see it translated.

Someone put the YnS scripts on Tsukuru and maybe someone will try it. I'd like to take a shot at it myself but would probably give up fairly fast.

>>3035433
>>3035438
>>3035448
>>3035452
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2925027#p2925572

YnS is average, yeah it's not bad but it really shouldn't be given priority compared to some other titles in the list.

>>3035492
This. It might actually have a chance of getting translated if someone does this.

I'm hoping for trap games in general since I enjoy the concept. I also like when there is a bit more domination from the female (instead of them just lying there taking it). And lets not forget the awesomeness of sex scenes with multiple girls at the same time.

That is what I want in a game from a sex perspective. For story I can take anything, because I like all forms.

>>3035027
I don't understand this post. Where is OP mentioning LISP?

>>3035893
> Learn Lisp with Arisa and Suzuka, unlocking some risque CGs of loli Nanoha as your reward

http://amaterasu.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=25.msg407#msg407

The site is unstable lately. If it goes down, check it out later.

>>3036177
Ah, the infamous SICP VN.

Amagami
Quartett!
and OP's game

090801: moved MuvLuv due to news regarding translation status from /m/

http://amaterasu.oxyhost.com/forum/index.php?topic=25.msg125#msg125

>>3036287
[17:04:25] [Raide] ok MuvLuv has been moved down
[17:08:13] [sunken] Somebody is translating MuvLuv?
[17:17:08] [Raide] based on obscure posts at 4chan
[17:17:26] [Raide] whether it's real or done properly, no one knows

from #ammy, the IRC channel of Ixrec's group

>>3036311
Uh... I love the work they are doing with Cross Channel, but that's really stupid. He is referring to a tripfag of /m/ who is only translating Unlimited and Alternative, so nobody is working on Extra yet. And that guy doesn't even have a team to begin with, as far as I know he's working alone.

>>3036491
I can't disprove him working on it. But this modification changes nothing; if MuvLuv wins, Ixrec will still translate the whole game instead of parts or collaborating with multiple translators.

Same condition with Yosuga no Sora ( http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2925027#p2925572 ) and Himawari (almost, due to BLyn's post at zepy, May 2008).

>>3035004
>Each vote may be either an upvote or a downvote
Oh boy, I can see things getting really nasty already.

anons were right about ruitomo, it was hardest to understand at first, and when you get used to its style, it's only marginally harder than other vns.
it is the most enjoyable vn I've had in years, and tomo is a real man and perfect waifu (if such thing is even possible). I only wish for voiced patch and wincest end.

>>3036536
Yeah, and those hasn't been removed from the poll, so it doesn't make any sense. I'm pretty sure someone from the team is reading this, so I'd like some sort of official statement.

I will vote for Suigetsu, because Yuki is my waifu.
It's also pretty challenging to translate with all the folklore in it.

Which games nominated are the hardest to read? I'll be voting for Saihate but with the points system I'll have to nominate two more. Or vote down two.

>>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia

Well I know what to vote.

>>3036552
She was fucking obsessed with him. You could tell she was about to jump him any moment. Also, Megumu and Ixenfei route where?

>>3036578
Already being translated. At a good speed too, considering its length.

>>3036560
Saihate no Ima is the hardest by far.
Then, well I didn't play all the eroge in the lists but probably Suigetsu, 3days, Ruitomo, Sekien no Inganock, France Shoujo and Kara no Shoujo were a little challenging

>>3036590
Wait. What? Are you talking about the people from Beast's Lair? The translator who supposedly has stuff done but has more or less stated he has disappeared for work and doesn't answer people who want to help out? Not to mention, it's something like korean -> english or chinese to english...

The last time I checked up on that project, it really didn't look good at all.

>>3036634
Where have you been in the past months?
http://amukunau.blogspot.com/

>>3036560
On the flip side, which games are easiest to read? I don't want to vote for a game that any half-assed translator can do.

>>3036700
If it's easy, it will just be finished faster.

I'm torn between Gore Screaming Show and Suigetsu. I'll probably be voting for GSS, though..

>>3036694
More like do you have problems reading? Just making blog posts != progress. Even if it did, he went with less blog posts anyway.

>Since I don't have much to say about the progress currently...

>I've been working fairly constantly on the scenes mentioned in my previous post, but it doesn't feel like I've made too much progress on any of them.

During this time, he has had translators who were willing to work at it try to contact him with no results. There's no indication of how much work is done so we can only pay attention to the fact that he says he hasn't felt like he made a dent into the whole script. That really isn't a good thing - either means he doesn't have enough time or there's just too much. It doesn't matter which as either way since it sure sounds like he could use the help. It'd be alright if he refused it but no answer at all isn't a good sign.

Tried France Shoujo.

I'm having a harder time deciphering the Chinese phrases than trying to understand the Japanese ones.

>>3037012
Did you miss the config option to switch those to Japanese?

I heavily advise doing it, simplified Chinese can go fuck itself.

Or don't bother; the protagonist can't understand it anyway.

>>3037012
Oh god, I loved the airship guy. Hilarious character.

>>3037034
Where's that option? I can't find it in the config.

If you break down the sentences per word, apply Japanese grammar rules to it, and finally using some imagination, it kinda makes some sense.

"He comes looking as if scheming something...
But I don't understand why is he crying"

"I also can't feel any difference to decide whether it's real or an act"

How far am I from the real meaning?

>>3037150
It's in the config menu available on the title menu - the one that only has two options (the other is to switch between NVL and AVG)

Also, don't forget to grab the 1.20 update for France Shoujo, because among other things it adds a hint mode which you seriously need if you want to clear the game - this is one of the most labyrinthine VNs ever made.

>>3037168
Found it.

Seems that the first sentence is completely off.
"He came according to the plan...
And he really can cry."
The second was more or less nailed.

>>3037215
I just played the trial. From the little I've played it doesn't really catch my interest. I suppose the routes are the kidnapped(?) French loli, the non blood related sister and the deceased's sister.

>>3036694

And I can point out so far there is no alpha patch, no progress report and no screenshoots of any kind.

Also its being translated from Korean.

Remember Shuffle! and Gamepatch? its easier to "translate" something for years without showing anything.

>>3037259
It's only a fandisc. I think there are many other VNs that deserve a translation instead of having (possibly) two groups working on different translations of the same game.

>>3037249
Not really - the routes aren't quite as 'per character' as that. It's true that certain routes focus more on certain characters, but there's certainly more routes than winnable heroines.

I haven't finished the game myself, but the indentured imouto/servant is my favourite character thus far. Don't know if I could bring myself to ever like Maiko - she's just too horrible and evil.

Anyway, I'd recommend playing the thing anyway - it's shaping up to be one of the best eroges I've ever played.

It's taking a long time to get through, though. It's not the longest VN ever written, but it's probably the second longest (after WLO, goddamn WLO. At least WLO wasn't filled with this much kanji bullshitting)

>>3037355
>it's shaping up to be one of the best eroges I've ever played.
Why is it so good? And may I ask which is your best eroge list?

I'll be voting for RuiTomo.

>>3037506
I dunno, but it just has that sort of atmosphere about it - it's a mindfuck game primarily. The endings I've seen so far have been pretty great, especially 'Eternity' (the first bad end you see). Oh, and the art is pretty good (although you probably already knew that, Tony and all). It's the first Tony game with a real story.

It's not something I'd recommend to most readers of eroge, but if you're into depressing stuff go for it.

Here's some of my other favourite eroges:
Ayakashibito, Forest, Mugen Kairou, Mugen Kairou 2, Saihate no Ima, Eien no Aselia, ONE, sense off, Kimi ga Nozomu Eien, Cross Channel, Kusari-hime, Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai, Kazoku Keikaku, Sekien no Inganock, Kizuato, Bengala-chou Hakubutsushi

>>3037589
>if you're into depressing stuff
Not really. I can handle nakige but NTR makes me depressed IRL.

And sadly, I've played none of those you've listed to draw a conclusion about your tastes. So I guess I'll pass on this for now. Still have Sharin FD (Yuukyu), Ruitomo and KiraKira to finish....

>>3035143
Why? At least the drama it has is better than your run of the mill eroge.

>>3034914
I bet you were one of the faggots hyping Chaos shit.

sdf

I find all the 'lol trap gamez' stuff unbelievable. I mean, liking them is one thing, but it's been months since I saw a single major VN thread in /jp/ without at least a dozen posts about trap games. I want to believe that it's just one or two guys spamming every single thread with this shit, kind of like Yosuga no Sora and Pygmalion.

About France Shoujo, looking at EGS, it certainly isn't getting good scores from Japanese players, and it seems the scenario writer has mostly worked on plotless sex-romps prior to this game. I'm sure it's a somewhat interesting title (even if it's just because of its length), but I'm a bit surprised seeing all the fanfares it's getting around here proclaiming it one of the best VNs ever.

Well, whatever. I'm going to vote Saihate no Ima and downvote GSS. Don't know about the third one yet.

>>3038203
We can't rely on egs rating, or sometimes English reviews/opinions due to taste or preferences. It's kinda suck that as last resort, such gimmicks like traps and twincest can be a determining factor when it comes to popularity.

Non popular gimmicks would be:
Saihate no IMA: blog/computer network
Himawari: cohabitation with space loli alien
Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo: dystopian fantasy
G-Senjou no Maou: epic battle of wits

...not really catchy, aren't they? Compared to GSS (gore!), Yns (otaku loli twincest) and Ruitomo (trap protag).

>>3038203
>I'm going to vote Saihate no Ima and downvote GSS
I think I'm going to do this, if GSS gets too many votes. It's way too overrated.

>>3037355
Is this really NTR?

I'm playing France Shoujo right now but it's not really my thing, I like the pre-war mood and the art is great but honestly it's kinda boring me.

If I had to add some eroge to the list, that would be Ayakashi, Clover Heart's and Moshiraba.

Ayakashi is a great action eroge, very fast paced and never boring, the action is clear with lots of CGs to illustrate it, it's just great fun.

Clover Hear's is also pretty good, it focuses on the life of twin brothers Hakuto and Itsuki who meet a pair of twins sisters, Rio and Rea.
The game is divided in 2 very different POVs, Itsuki being antisocial, taciturn and already in a relationship in the beginning while Hakuto is a normal pure boy.
It has a very good scenario and some great character development, really a great eroge.

Moshiraba is just one of the best nakige ever, written by Tanaka Romeo,
The story is about how the family of the main character Kazuki adopted 2 sisters, Akiho and Tsubasa, Karuki grew up with them and eventually fell for Akiho and even confess to her.
A little after they started going out, Akiho suddenly died because of some illness. The game really starts a few moths after her death with Kazuki and Tsubasa trying to move on, Kazuki realizes that some strange things are happening around him.
And with that the game takes a turn for the supernatural with Akiho coming back as a ghost.
And it also has some yuri for those who like it.

The openings:
Ayakashi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMJKEmZ4vF4

Clover Heart's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaZ9QzBJf8

Moshiraba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUOxgkU9DfA

>>3038283
Family Project is god-tier for Japanese audience. Now that we have played it, is it count as overrated?

Maybe GSS is actually good, or found enjoyable by Western audience if it does gets translated.

>>3038294
>Tanaka Romeo

>>3038271
I'm not really sure how many of those four gimmicks you listed have to do with the popularity of these games though. I've played Sharin and G-Sen, not because of these "gimmicks" (especially in the case of Sharin), but because I'd just generally been hearing that they have awesome plots.

As for Saihate, it's been gaining some slight popularity over here, but the game is hard as fuck to characterize with any number of "gimmicks", and I'm willing to guess they aren't behind its popularity. They certainly aren't the reason I'm going to vote for Saihate.

You're right about the rest though. I've played Yosuga no Sora _only_ because it had twincest. It's a decent game and all, but I knew well before even touching the game that it wouldn't be the kind of god-tier title that would deserve to be translated ASAP. Nobody in /jp/ would be interested in it if it turned out in the game that Sora and Haruka aren't blood related or something.

>>3038295
Family Project is god tier for the japanese audience because it's started lots of things you see today, especially for the healing genre.
It was just a feel good eroge that focus on family value that was a first for many otaku.
Of course it shows it age now, though it's still very good.

GSS is good but really far from being great even if you compare it with other from its genre, and it's really not that old.

>>3038295
Family Project was always overrated.

>>3038294
>Moshiraba is just one of the best nakige ever, written by Tanaka Romeo,
Oh, fuck off.

Moshiraba is a KUSUKUSU / NYAON game.
It was, consequently, drawn by KusuKusu and written by Nyaon.
Tanaka Romeo had nothing to do with it.
NYAON is a better emotional writer than Tanaka Romeo - Tanaka Romeo has different strengths, which would not have been appropriate for Moshiraba.

http://renai.gwathyr.net/pictures/CH/
Found a nice review of Clover Heart's; seems like one of the better ren'ai genre games which lack translations. Anyone planning to nominate this one to the forum thread?

>>3038388
Oh, and I should add to this that I don't disagree with the comment about Moshiraba being one of the best nakiges ever written - I think it's a better eroge than anything Tanaka Romeo has ever worked on (although not by much).

Has Oretachi ni Tsubasa wa Nai been nominated yet?

>>3038388
Yeah I just realized I got it wrong, must have confused it with something else.
Doesn't change the fact that it's really fucking great.

>>3038413
You can't nominate things which will most likely be officially translated.

>>3038429
Bit hard to work out something like that without a crystal ball. I get that Navel and Nitroplus titles would be out, but what about Cd Bros and Will titles? ..granted, with Kana and Kazoku Keikaku translated the only Cd Bros title even remotely worth translating is the somewhat mediocre Hoshizora Planet, but what about Will? They've got a load of great stuff, and JAST still seems to be using them as a source for future licenses - which is why they made that licensing poll a while back listing three Will titles (under Pulltop, propeller and Hermit)

>>3038443
oretsuba is by navel

Since currently there are some anons familiar with japanese eroges.. can you tell us which one is closest/comparable to Cross;Channel?

>>3038471
Saihate no Ima is basically the spiritual successor of Cross Channel.

>>3038451
I know that, I meant in general. How do you determine that a title is likely to be licensed?

There's some titles that are pretty much guaranteed to be invulnerable from licensing simply because they are inherently niche titles that would not appeal to enough of a fanbase to be worth it (stuff like Forest, Mugen Kairou, possibly Gunjyou no Sora and Saihate no Ima), or because they're by companies that are uninterested or against licensing (anything by Illusion, minori, all of VisualArt's) or because nobody in their right mind would ever try to license it and sell it (France Shoujo, Kusari-hime, Musume Shimai / Mei Shoujo, Eien to Natta Rusuban)

>>3038471
Seconding Saihate no Ima, but after that, you'll find that Mugen Kairou also shares a lot of similar themes.

>>3038486
Well, it's probably impossible to devise a general way to determine whether a given VN is likely to be licensed or not. But this doesn't mean that there aren't individual VNs from which it can be fairly objectively said that there's a nontrivial probability of them getting licensed.

>>3038486
On the subject of Forest, I guess this one would be impossible to translate seeing how lots of the dialogues are only spoken, you'd have to dub it to make it understandable.
Too bad since it's a pretty interesting eroge

>>3038508
Couldn't you just add subtitles? Or does it have difficult engine?

>>3038477
Thanks for the answer, anon.

Now can anyone describe those two Liar-soft games? They have gorgeous graphics, unique fantasy genre feel and great music. But it seems hard to categorize them to certain gimmick or comparison with titles/games we know.

From info I gathered, only pre-hoshizora titles are impossible to hack, so Sharnoth and Inganock are still options.

>>3038508
Yeah, it would require a second textbox for the lines that either aren't shown or aren't accompanied by matching text, but that's probably not a huge deal to manage. There's other eroges that pull similar trickery - I can recall one that actually had 'background chatter' which was of relevance to the story - the stuff was basically just in the BGM track but served to give important information. Pretty sure that would be far more of a pain for translators than Forest's stuff.

Takajun reviews of Sekien no Inganock
http://yandere.gray7.com/?p=155

It would be nice to see Sekien no Inganock or Shikkoku no Sharnoth translated.

>>3038549
Sharnoth is mediocre, the beginning is great but it gets rapidly very dull and repetitive.
And the gameplay is really terribly boring.

> It would be nice to see <insert japanese eroge> translated.
Too bad to see one translated is to unsee another one translated.

>>3038552
I personally liked Inganock a lot more than Sharnoth, but... mediocre? Are you shitting me? If not, you need to go play some mediocre eroges and get some perspective on things. Yandere, ARS:MAGMA, True Love, White Angel, Yunchu, X-Change, School x School, CROSS FIRE, Onii-chan Daisuki! ～LOVE? or LIKE?～, BALDR BULLET, Summer Radish Vacation, Boku ga Sadame, SIN, Before Dawn Daybreak, Tasogare.. all solid no-shit mediocrity, the approximate 'median' of all the eroge that gets released. Nothing wrong with that - it's not good, it's not bad. It's mediocre.

Shikkoku no Sharnoth is not mediocre.

>>3038574
>True Love
The one translated into English? Cause I don't find that mediocre at all, maybe because I'm seeing it thru nostalgia goggles.

>>3038570
Better than none translated.

>>3038574
Nobody expected anything from most of the eroge you cited.
Sharnoth though was the new eroge of the "What a beautiful..." series, of course anyone is going to expect great things from it seeing Inganock.
The result was subpar to me, probably would have been a little better without the horrible gameplay though.

Stop suggesting random games as we will vote for real deal games anyway. You just see and then start crying,

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>>3038592
Eroge shouldn't be judged on what you expected them to be, really; that's part of the reason /jp/ hates every VN that gets translated. KAZOKU KEIKAKU = OVERRATED SHIT

Besides, yes, Sharnoth was the 3rd 'Beautiful' game. Souten no Celenaria was the first. Surely it set the standard of the series initially, not Inganock - and Sharnoth was much, much better than Celenaria.

Could be one of those things where every second game is the decent title, in which Hikari no Valusia should be pretty good stuff, right? It's by the Inganock artist, not the Sharnoth artist, too.

>>3038574
>True Love mediocre
Ouch, Anon...

>>3038613
>>Sharnoth was much, much better than Celenaria.
That's where we disagree, I preferred Celenaria to Sharnoth personally.
Gave me a good FUCK YEAH ADVENTURE that only few games like Grandia or Sky of Arcadia gave me before.

>>3038618
Yes, it has a place in your heart, much like Dokyuusei has a place in the heart of those of us that started with Japanese language titles. Doesn't mean that they aren't both mediocre SIM games with one-dimensional characters, terribly boring luck-based gameplay and no storyline worth speaking of.

>>3038642
erogamescape voters aren't any more 'professional eroge players' than you or I are

after all, I vote and POV most of the things I finish on EGS, and you probably do the same

>>3038613
hahaha owow baka thieving gajin thinks of having higher power levels than the professional jap eroge players on erogamescape

>>3038642
Sometimes, they did.

> professional jap eroge players
You kid.

> you kid

You little retarded nekofag, leave this board fucking now.

>>3038688
Reported for breaking global rules #2, #3, #6.

>>3038732

OP here. I just found a far superior board without morons so I'm leaving Retardchan forever now:

http://pooshlmor.com/wakaba/wakaba.html (o = e)

>6976e9fgbc907fea58a1c5adce058e4bf

>>3032902
mediafire it, badongo's being a bitch.

While opinions will always be opinions, I'm usually curious about what people actually mean with "good story".

Does it mean it simply is a genre you like? Does it keep you in the dark so you don't know what to expect next? Does it manage to give characters sparkling personalities?

I haven't really played any VN yet where I would label the actual story as something special, which makes me really wonder what I might be missing out on.

>>3040048
In my opinion, "good story" is there in order to flesh out the characters and give you a sense of attachment to the characters and/or involvement when their H-scenes come around, and make the whole thing feel natural, and more real. Whether it's a DEEP plot or just a set up designed to support the porn, just so long as it doesn't have shitty Deus Ex moments, or shitty plot contrivances to try and bundle in porn unnaturally (i.e. transferring mana, etc.)

Consider this for instance. If the game was just the H-scenes strung together with voicing, it would be pretty hot, but not nearly the game it was. The story really helped you feel for her, and the desperation and hopelessness of her situation, which really added to it.

>>3040048
It's how the game/book/movie etc maximize the potential of the medium or genre. I expect a exciting action in action movie; scared to death from horror; empathize with the characters in drama etc.

Most VNs automatically assumed to have drama/romance element due to route and first POV system, so that's one primary factor they need to be excellent in IMO.

Other factors like art, music, battle scene, mindfuckery, slice of life, etc follows after that.