/jp/ - Otaku Culture

You have a relly bad army if you can't even win by battle rating. And yes,
>Will funding the Shinsengumi bastards' terrorist activities help?
This helps, but you have to fight the final battle on your own.

FUCK, i was too late. is chinu and the others still catchable?

>>2970893
This is the first time I've encountered something like this. Admittedly, my army is kinda fucked-up. Time to start using my stat-boosting items, I guess. I have this bad habit of hoarding items and gold in games.

>>2970885
What is the context of this? When does she react like that?

They have huge troop number, but their attack are puny as long as you have reliable foot soldier up to back row. Use percentage-based spell from Natori, Seigan or Chinu to raise your battle rating, and keep attacking their defenseless unit.

Or you can defend for few turns and focus on reducing their troop count when they attack. Takuga is so poor they're slow at recovering their troop numbers.

>>2970919
I'll try this, defensive battles are a lot more easier, especially with Kenshin. But the Demon Army should be popping up soon since I just finished Honouji around 5 turns ago.

>>2970917
Have Yuzumi, and you'll get these scenes when you're at war with Tokugawa.

>>2970934
You will get them anyway just with the different characters.

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>>2970904
lol, I finally noticed that it was blades coming out of his face

>>2970960
No it's not. It's simply the most manly moustache in existence.

>>2970960
Gon has blades. Motonari simply has a kickass moustache.

>>2970977
Akashi Kazemaru has a kickass mustache as well. Too bad you can't recruit him like that.

>>2970981
He probably is too busy rollin with bitches to bother with army.

OH MY GOD WHAT

Maybe I should have gone for the Shimazu first. The Demon Army events have started, and I don't think I can conquer Takuga in time any more. Sigh.

>>2970995
You can't actually conquer Shimazu before demon army arrival. If fact, you can't declare a war on them in any routes except for Monkey.

>>2970885
Do all japanese swordswomen wear sailor shirts over a swimsuit?

Holy fuck, Leila is fucking awesome. Her Royal Knight Charge only takes 2 AP, while it deals 2x damage to units that outnumber hers. I just reduced Kawanoe Jou's 3120 sword troops to 1848 with only 1 attack by 606 troops. This is amazing.

>>2971036
Does she look japanese/swordswoman to you?

fucking whore brothers, how could they do that to kou

Can someone give me an update on what the hannys are doing

>>2971080
Wait what.
EXPLAIN.

>>2971103
Hannies are playing soccer.

>>2971036

Maybe you should pick up a history book buddy!

>>2971040
I hear that she gets auto-captured if you fight against the demon army with her at low troop numbers.

So does she get killed or can she be rescued or what?

>>2971108
Aaiyah!

>>2970885
She is cute. I have not played Sengoku Rance. Is there more of this girl who reminds me of Youmu so much?

holy crap, i just saw an enermy foot soldier called bishamoten. should i capture him?

>>2971110
You're thinking about Leila. Very annoying, really.

>>2971122
just do it

Is this a fully translated turn based strategy hentai game?

Ikkyu's special ability is fucking awesome

>>2971122
She is a musket girl who makes an explosive noise when her sanity breaks.

If you're cute run for your goddamn life.

>>2971133
Two out of three routes are 90% translated. Only untranslated things are few side-stories.

>>2971134
It can only be used three times; I see you wasted it once already. Nice going.

>>2971144
Twice actually. But I don't really care, it's like a cheat button to speed up your progress a little, I can't depend on it forever

>>2971110
she get's raped by xevier, don't think she can be rescued.

so how is the Yuzumi scene with the doggie triggered?

How come when I push the battle rating all the way to the other side, the fight doesn't end at that point?

>>2971040
Ku ku ku!

>>2971134
It can be used but three times (alicesoft wikia)

>>2971040
The racoon king's charge does basically the same thing, but you can use it in any ratio of troop size,

Wow, Takuga does become surprisingly weak if you hold them off for a couple of turns. Thanks for the advice, Anon. Well, the Demon Army has made their first move. Should I attack their territories or should I lay back and relax, waiting for Mori to fall?

>>2971164
You need to wait until the turns are used up or kill all the enemies for the battle to actually end.

>>2971134
Why are you attacking the Tenshi sect before Kenshin?

>>2971164
battle ends when times up or the commanders on one side are all dead, or everyones out of moves. Doesn't have anything to do with the battle rating.

>>2971190
Take some of Mori's commanders before it's too late.
You can let the demon army take your shit for a couple of turns.
Auto capture comes later anyways.

>>2971185
you'd have to use up a turn using Charge though but it's still pretty good I guess if you get it off a tactician.

>>2971190
keep your gold above 50k to get the full benefit of asset tech, assuming you have someone with the asset tech skill.

>>2971206
With the offensive bonus it does 2.7x damage.
That and a 9 attack on a soldier does a shitload of hurt.

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>>2971206
For some reason pushing battle rating normally does not make what happens in >>2971134

>>2971195
I just started the game and I'm not really familiar in which order am I supposed to do the things. Why does it matter?

>>2971252
Just play the game however you want. even though things may seem hopeless sometimes, the game's definitely beatable without guides or what have you.

>>2971252
Because Kenshin is a bitch when she's not on your side.
Tenshi has shit commanders, anyways.

how do people use natori? i've been hearing that she is awesome. any tips?

>>2971457
Miko storm. Same goes for chinu, except her attack is slower but has a better effect.

>>2971469
Actually Poison is weaker than miko storm 2. It affects current health and can be reduced by guarding.

how do people beat yamagata? god damn his whole team got murdered and he is still well alive

I just finished my first run, but when trying to pick a house on the second run the game just seems to freeze on the map screen right after, am I doing something wrong?

Also, too bad there's no option to continue after defeating Xavier.

>>2971501
FFA mode doesn't work yet with the new patch. They are fixing it.

it's not advisible to take one Takeda without a good roster of commanders. You do you have a few turns before the tekeda generals start showing up in battle though, so you can try to conquer them before then.

>>2971517
what are these good roster of commanders consist?

>>2971543
Well, if we talk about BLITZ, you need commanders like most of your reinforcements, Kenshin, Yuzumi, Senhime or Tokugawa and maybe a couple of his Youkai guys, a beefed up Rance, Yamamoto with Whirlwind/Sweeping fire, Natori, Shibatsu with a good number of troops, a couple captured cavalry units to fill in blanks, A few good 'capturable' units like Himiko or 'secret' character like Gekkou (from the house bonus) or Dousan (from Satosfaction Mihho three bonus) etc.
OR if you want to go the extra mile , get the Mouri, Houjo and One-eyed commanders.

>>2971493
1400 troops in Maria, Double Tulip. That's the only strategy I got.

can we get an update on the hannys?

>>2971619
Having fun.

>>2971598
>1400 troops in Maria
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>>2971572
Sorry. Can you be a little more specific. How do you get Dousan?

>>2971501

If you keep trying, it should work eventually.

>>2971637
Check the 'Miho three' purple event in Mamushi Oil field.
Hire all three of them
Now, you can hire Dousan through the 'Satisfaction Bonus'(the choice should appear there right after you have hired all three).
After you have hired her, you can fire the three others.

>>2971572
What's so great about Senhime, by the way? She is a solid foot soldier with good stats, but that's all she is.

Hey guys how do I apply the new patch?
just throw it on the main folder?
doesn't seem to work for me

>>2971664
Footsoldiers are always useful, and she makes a good first game footsoldier.

>>2971664
She looks like KOS-MOS. That's more than enough for me.

>>2971179
FUUUUCK

>>2971664
First of all,
>>2971678
Secondly, decent stats and she starts with Auto-heal and all-guard.
Only problem is the cost and her 'Love' stipulation.

>>2971664
You don't relly have a choice when it comes too good foot soldiers.

>>2971690
>'Love' stipulation.
????

>>2971807
In order to get her to love, you must deploy her 3 times in battle and lose.

>>2971671
help ;_;
I really want to play Ran Route

>>2971818
why?

>>2971857

There's instructions in fakku's topic.

lolwtf

>>2971903
Suzume is the new student.

>>2971903
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>>2971919
Go suck a cock, mongrel.

After you capture all the Demon Army's lands and get the Tenma bridge event, is the time limit still in effect?

>>2971979
Yes. If you want to do some unfinished business, don't push Demon Army back too hard. Their initial scripted attacks are supposed to tell you that the Demon Army is strong, but it's not.

>>2972032

I wanted to try beating up Dokuganryuu, but I guess that's something better saved for a route without the demon army.

>>2972080

You should cripple the demon army to Morocco and South Africa then defeat the One Eyed house and make sure to acquire all their captains. It'll make the final battle a lot easier and you can deploy them in a second game bonus. Ran route is also a good one to do this in.

I'm in Kennshin route right now. This time I got this green bitch instead of goldy... >>2972107
Whats going on?

>>2972080
>>2972107
This. Once you defeat Shimazu brothers and apostles, Demon Army is pretty much dead. In my 2-star playthrough they attacked once or twice with pathetic squads of 1-2 obligatory monster captains, 1-2 shitty infected units (watch out for those with Infect ability though) and remnants of Shimazu's human army.

>>2972193
Dude...

>>2972193
Some people actually use reinforcements of that country?

>>2972206

Guess I'll do that, hopefully I'll still have a save from before I assaulted south africa.

>>2972193
If you have activated the 'Bonus characters' house bonus, when you recruit Maria, she will join regardless in a few turns.
Unrelated to whether you call Leila or not (if you called her, she will arrive after 6 turns normally)

>>2972281
i used 3 of my 5 bonus points for the diviner girl bonus character.

>>2972193
Talk about goldy.

How do I trigger her demon army rape scene?

>>2972240
Some people don't? Enjoy missing out on one of the best artillery units in the game and a solid first row unit.

>>2972209
>>2972240
While Kanami sucks, Maria and Leila are very good units.

>>2972562
Just have her with a low troop count at the end of a battle with them, even if you win.


Which large country should I go for the 5th gourd? Mouri, Takeda or Hojo? Tenshi sect is currently at war with me and so should Imagawa soon.

>>2972628
Mouri. They give you best commanders.
Hojo gives you two weak, Takeda gives you one great tacticians, Mouri give you 4 good commanders (just conquer the Takuga first so you could get the uncursed Motonari)

>>2972562
I just send her unit alone to fight. She lose and got raped, her HCG unlocked and I simply reload saved game.

>>2972646
>two weak
Make it one, because Ran dies immediately. Though you can always try to capture Soun but it takes too much time and he isn't that good.

So /jp/, is it supposed to be so difficult capturing captains through battle?

While I figured the trick with certain captains, such as Himiko or Goemon, is to kill off just them and use a character with the Something Hunt ability, other captains just don't. They could be the only one beaten, but nothing.

>>2972907
You can't capture a lot of story/even related captains. Some are just bitch to capture. Also use Sticky ground and other specials that make the chance higher

>>2972907
Sticky ground from Shizuka, light attack, and defeated warrior hunt.

Niwa's only use comes into play here as being the starting commander who has defeated warrior hunt.

>>2972917
Much love, fellow /jp/anophile :)

>>2972964
forgot to say that here is a good place to learn what captains can be captured and when, http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:Walkthrough

Do you guys know what your hannys are doing currently?

Hey guys how do I get the other Naoe Ai sex scene? Not the one with the nurse uniform.

I tried accepting the deal from Kenshin's uncle and waited a couple turns. The only scene I got was Naoe Ai sneaking into Owari and then escaping with Kenshin, no sex scene.

What'd I do wrong?

>>2973539
You should be able to ambush her before she saves Kenshin.
Look for some special command the turns before she does it.

>>2973539
>What'd I do wrong?
You didn't capture her. The scene is about Rance capturing her and raping. I don't really remember the details though, I managed to get it way back before Kenshin route was translated.

>>2973552
Thanks, that was it.

What the fuck, Miko Institute just had ~10,000 troops join them.

>>2973644
That's miko for ya. Not that much anyway.

So /jp/, how do I capture Torako? Seems like she disappeared after I conquered Uesugi, while Katsuko always get hired by another house.

Also, can you give me the list of the secret characters? So far I only know Dousan, Himiko, Goemon, Yagyuu Munenori, and Yoshikaga Ashiteru.

>>2973661
They both are getting hired. I had them both joining Takeda few times.

>>2973648
Well, they're dead now. Fuckers.

Oh man, things did not turn out well for Kenshin.

>>2973702
Stupid question: is 'hyper weapon' a Rance original, or is it a reference to something else?

Sometimes Rance's misogyny is so damn over the top its a bonerkill.

But most of the time its great.

>>123

>>2974086
His hyper weapon will pierce the heavens.

Just started playing this and I ended up pouring quite a few hours into it. It looked easy in the beginning, but after a while it got pretty tough. I got some of the basics down with a "test" file and then decided to start over again.

Any advice for a newbie? I feel like being aggressive is the best thing to do, but since any unit you attack with can't defend, I'm not sure how I'll hold onto whatever I take.

>>2974415
the more commanders you have the better, try to recruit strong ones. make use of the request reinforcements sat bonus too.

>>2974090
Misogyny is Rance's Raison d'etre.

I sometimes wonder if he isn't just a homo in denial.

>>2974576
>I sometimes wonder if he isn't just a homo in denial.

You would like that wouldn't you SUZAKU!

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do you get to sex the girl in OP pic?

>>2974631
you get to load her bullets

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>>2974415
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Sengoku_Rance:First_Game_three_moves_in_thirteen_turns
Get the hang of that. Requires a bit of luck and a bit of reloading, only really workable on a Normal/1-star game.

Try to capture as many people as possible earlier on to recruit cheap fodder to throw up as defense until you can get some decent generals.

Try to expand as far as possible without necessarily conquering a House, i.e., get them to their very last ground and let them kill themselves on your defense while you expand elsewhere (at least, on the True route). Additionally, if you're having trouble conquering a House on their final territory, let them toss some guys at you. Some houses recovery pretty damn fast, but a good number also don't heal back troops very quickly.

Don't engage in war with Takeda unless you've gotten Tokugawa out of the way, or unless you can take out their two main territories in three turns. Their generals are amazing if you can capture them, but you need to be well prepared with a LOT of units.

Take a good look at a commander's skills when they level up, some of the special ones have things that'll be a great help (Isoroku has Whirlwind and a penetration attack, for example.) On that note, try to save before giving your commanders modified/new abilities and try them out immediately - some may not work the way you want them to, or seem kind of crappy in comparison to some other options.

Keep an eye out for what seems to trigger what when it comes to different Houses fighting each other, but don't sweat it too much on the first play through.

I hate how it still uses a fan if you go to attack someone then close the troop selection window before attacking.

Do you guys take any of the amazing old men? I always try to get Itou Kakka first, because his 8 negotiation and search comes in handy. Other than that he's just eating up national power.

Does anyone have that trainer for this that's up on /rs/? Rapidshit fails, download limit exceeded etc.

>>2974707
well you just have to save often so if something like that happens you have a save right before it

>>2974713
yea amazing old men are good for early playthroughs were you don't have a lot of characters to work with.

>>2973661
I captured her when fighting Akashi

So I just conquered Texas. Is there any reason why I should kill the or recruit Tengu guy? Is the Tengu Mask even good for something?

>>2975342
cannon fodder and easy character clear

>>2974727
seconding this - can someone re-up on Mediafire?

newfag here, what game is this

Just completed Ran route.
That sucked. i never got the option to kidnap Kurohime ;_;

What next? Is Demon King route translated?

newfag here, what game is this?

>>2975396
Warning States Battle Toads

>>2975396
(戦国ランス

Hey guys it seems english patch 0.80 was released with even more stuff translated

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>>2975445
Nice.

Finally all of japan will have fun!

Newbie here again. My next file was a bit more successful, but I've hit another wall. I avoided conquering areas with gourds until the 2nd one was automatically stolen, at which point I finished off Asakura and Iga, then took over Tenshi.

Now I'm stuck at the Honnoji incident though. I can get past the first fight fine, but it's the fight with Byakko(Rengoku) that gets me. What the hell am I supposed to do? All of my units have a tough time getting past those two bodyguards he has with him.

Here's my map screen for reference. Unit screen in next post.

Units. Also, map doesn't show it, but I got as far as taking one territory from Uesugi before the Honnoji event started.

>>2975480
>>2975473
Use a continue.
Your first game will end with 0 points anyways.

>>2975473
Next time act a little bit faster.
You should at least have conquered the Tanukis and Uesugi.

Protip: Always use Rance to attack Uesugi.

>>2975473

Shouldn't have taken Iga, honestly, you would have gotten more turns.

>>2975511

Elaborating: Always use ONLY Rance to attack when Kenshin is fielded, against Uesagi. It auto-wins the battle until the first territory is taken, and then the second territory becomes piss-easy after.

Oh thank god we're back, I can finally find out what the hannys are doing!

What are the hannys doing currently?

FUCKNIGGER STOLE MY SENHIME!

Ran Route is the shit!

>>2975533
see >>2975463

>>2975491

I did, but it just led to a repeat of the same thing.

>>2975511

I see. I was hesitant to attack those guys though because only Rance could fully defeat a tanuki unit.

As for Uesugi, taking their territory wasn't easy. Compared to what I was fighting before, these guys are bringing units double the size.

Also, what's the point of levelling your officer's levels? They don't seem to have a large impact on their stats and so far I haven't really done anything to raise their levels.

>>2975540
Leveling is important for commander battles like dungeons and fighting Xavier.

>>2975540

He's referring to the affection bonus.

>>2975548

...That was fairly obvious. Stupid question. Is going through dungeons the only way to level up?

>>2975570

You mean from those [0/7] things?

>>2975607
yes that's the affection meter/level w/e, when you get it to 7/7 you can raise it again to get a bonus for the characters. One of things you can do is raise their level by 2.

FUCK YEAR PLAYING AS DEMON ARMY

But how do I get Soul Binder?

>>2974727
Seconding this request - can someone re-up it to Mediafire?

Can I use my 0.75 savegames with the 0.80 patch?

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>>2976592
Yes. Note that the installer will convert all the names of the saves to English, so that it can run on an English locale. Therefore you may wish to back up your save folder.

anyone know what "miscellaneous" scenes were translated?

>>2976618
Spoilers: ur a faget

Is it possible to capture special commanders in FFA mode? I fought up against Suzume, Senhime and could never catch them as Akashi. Or is generics the only thing I am left with?

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the hell?

Wait, how do I upgrade from 0.50 to 0.80?

>>2976661
Pretty sure only generics, but then again I captured some special captain before as Shimazu.. who was it now..

Senhime I think, I don't know how I captured her as I couldn't capture any other special captain but she wasn't with Tokugawa when I captured her.

>>2976708
http://yandere.gray7.com/?p=480

here is v0.75.

>>2976716
Well, thank you, I replaced 戦国ランス.ain with ÉÝìæâëâôâX.ain in the game folder like I was told, but the 0.80 .exe still does nothing.

>>2976753
wait.... with what?

that's not suppose to be named that way, are you on english locale? it works on .80[I'd assume] but you need it in japanese for .75. I think there is some way to bypass that using applocale but I always run in japanese so I wouldn't really know.

Holy shit. I finally get past Honnoji, and then ten turns later the Demon Army pops up. I figure, no big deal. They're nowhere near close to me. Then BAM, Takeda instantly falls to the Demon Army.

Luckily, they don't seem too tough. Badass battle music though.

Sucks that what's her name from Mouri died like that. Just out of nowhere, pop.

>>2976953

And right after I say that, they attack me multiple times. God damn.

Demon army, more like nigger army.

Guys i've been following the 13 day 3 moves guide on the alicewiki but i cant beat the dungeon in one shot. Any tips?

yea there's that one point were the demon army attacks five times but that only happens once

>>2977074

Thank god for that. Still, it's slowing me down since now I have to recapture all those territories.

Just curious, but how many territories do you guys manage to take per turn?

>>2976982
Well, assuming that you already have that dungeon scout skill, just put Suzume, Akechi, and a random archer in the back and the weakish low flag warriors in the front. Try your best to one shot everything until the the last battle. Rance/Sill and Ranmaru should be able to smash through the last area.

Great. Forget taking back my territories, I can't even hold my own against Shimazu Yoshihisa and his 2k men.

Is it worth buying a musket unit? I tried buying one but her stats were horrible so I reloaded.

>>2977343
Outside of Yuzumi, you can basically disreguard musketeers.

>>2975491
I had 14 points by the end of my first game and even used a continue on Nobunaga. You just need to act fast, spam character clears and get + points ability.

Despite the fact that I've more or less put all of today's effort into this file, I'm about to give up and start over again. The Demon Army rapes me up the ass the moment Shimazu Yoshihisa shows up in any battle. This, combined with the fact that every few turns ANOTHER country falls to the Demon Army means I'm fighting a losing battle.

But whatever. I hope no one minds if I start asking an endless flood of questions here.

1. Are tacticians useful? It feels like their ability to buff is about all they have. For that matter, which are the more useful units in a battle?

2. What's more important, gaining land or building up affection with my officers?

3. Gold is never used outside of hiring/healing right? So it's a good idea to pour all the gold I have into raising my troop sizes right?

4. Which houses are the most profitable? Basically, which houses are the best/easiest to take down in the beginning? I've always seen Hara as a weak and easy target to start off with, followed by (nearly) conquering Iga and Ashikaga. After that, it gets kinda hard to tell.

5. Who are the better commanders? In my current file, I'm using Rance/Kenshin/Shibata/Natori/Suzume/Isoroku. They did pretty well until DA showed up.

6. Should I hire a commander just for their out of battle skills? Like say there's an officer with 6 const, is he worth the space and time?

>>2977503

What do you mean by the + point abilities?

Act fast as in take over one territory per turn?

>>2977549
Don't give up. You'll eventually autoconquer pratically everything if you wait.

>>2977549
1. Tactician from new game bonus and Takeda tactician have the ability to alter battle meter (or whatever is called, the one that has to be more than half full for you to win). Otherwise, maybe as a replacement for archers; I didn't use them for damage though.

2. Both.

3. Yes.

4. Uesugi, you get awesome bushi after conquering them, and most fights are autowin.

5. Maria from reinforcements.

6. In first playthrough, if you have free space, sure.

>>2977549
1.Yes.Tacticians, either by adding buffs, or using special skills (like Battle Rating Up or Dow, or Uruza's accurate shots) can make a difference.
Also, you should have at least one for Battle Permits.
2.You should conquer areas fast, build up Satisfaction, THEN use the Sat. Bonus that gives 3 affection to all officers. Raising it one by one for each one is too slow, unless you have gotten enough items to boost one unit's affection immediately.
3. Yes, you should poor most of it into raising your troop count, but not ALL of it (to make sure you can always heal properly).
4. Do NOT conquer Iga at first. After Hara and Asikaga, take over the Miko Institute and Tokugawa for better units, then either Asai-Asakura and Uesugi or Hojo. It's more important to get better troops at first, and Iga does not offer that.
5. Generally, most unique commanders are better than generics. Your reinforcements from Satisfaction bonuses are good choices, and the units you can get from Tokugawa, Tanegashima, and if possible, Mouri.
6. It's a matter of whether you need such a unit (aka, it's class), it's stats, abilities and level. If you can afford it, why not?

Finally, when a unit gets a 'power' up due to raising affection, in one of the 'Gain ability' options (the Last one that appears on the list), you can choose 'End-Game' points.Aka, if the unit survives till the end of the game, you get extra points added on your score (regardl;ess of Character Clear)

>>2977549
>Rance/Kenshin/Shibata/Natori/Suzume/Isoroku.
Rance is great if you put in the effort to power him up. Kenshin is just plain awesome. Shibata Katsuie is very, very average and can be easily replaced by other footsoldiers like Senhime or Mouri Teru (Teru's Counterattack 2 ability makes enemy units vaporize on contact). Natori is one of the most powerful units in the game. Suzume is decent when Assassinate 2 works, but its all or nothing, so I generally avoid using her unless she's teamed up with Aburako Dousan to abuse Convert Action. Isoroku is great, once she has Whirlwind Shot, but I think she makes Suzume redundant. I'd replace Suzume with a good long range attacker: Maria is fantastic, or if you managed to catch a solid cavalry unity that would work to. Alternatively, a strong tactician like Sanada Tourin or (preferably) Uruza will do wonders. Once Uruza gets her Accurate Shots ability (which takes away an action point from all enemies and interrupts all preparation) she is a powerhouse, especially when combined with Kenshin.

>>2977549
>1. Are tacticians useful? It feels like their ability to buff is about all they have. For that matter, which are the more useful units in a battle?
I just use them for their initial buffs and afterward, use them as archers. However, their ability to push the battle meter in your favour is fantastic.
>2. What's more important, gaining land or building up affection with my officers?
Gaining land. When you gain land, your enemies lose land. At the very least, gained land will act as a buffer between them and your home provinces.
>3. Gold is never used outside of hiring/healing right?
Yes.
>So it's a good idea to pour all the gold I have into raising my troop sizes right?
Pretty much, but if I remember correctly, there's a 99999 expediture cap so you can save a lot of money by taking advangtage of that. Free troops, basically.
>5. Who are the better commanders? In my current file, I'm using Rance/Kenshin/Shibata/Natori/Suzume/Isoroku.
My main party is made of Senhime, Kenshin, Yuzumi. Dousan, Uruza, and a generic 3000 cavalry force. Senhime Dousan constantly feeds into Yuzumi to pull off constant 1-hit KOs. Uruza and Kenshin stops the opponent's movements. The cavalry is for taking out casters (there's probably a named cavalry captain in there, but I haven't gotten it), but can fight normally. Senhime blocks everything. I'm pretty sure there are better teams out there, but my team does pretty well.
>6. Should I hire a commander just for their out of battle skills? Like say there's an officer with 6 const, is he worth the space and time?
There's really nothing bad about having lots of generic generals. Just replace them when you get someone better. Make sure you don't jeopardize your defenses by using up too many units to recruit them though.

I wish Himiko had convert actions. She has some nice stats and everything otherwise.

the demon army only attacks once per turn most of teh time, and you'll auto conquer most of their territoty eventually


1. Yes tacticians are useful. Those buffs go a long way, tacticians with the battle rating down skill can win you battles defensively. Also Uruza has a special skill you can get for her that reduces all enemies action point but one.

2. I think it's important not to rush things, just try to avoid conquering houses with gourds and you should have enough time to accomplish what you need.

3. yes you can only use gold to heal/buy more troops but keep in mind the asset tech skill. If you have someone with that skill you need at least 50k to get the full benefit from it.

4. Iga has a gourd, should probably avoid conquering them. Some good earlly commanders include the Miko you get in owari and the Kuge sisters from Ashigaka.

5. Senhime from tokugawa is pretty good. the tacticians you get from Takeda is also good. the commanders from one eye are excellent but it's probably not a good idea to take them on. the comri commanders are also great.

6. well that's up to you, if you have the spare national power for them. You don't have anything to lose buy recruiting more commanders except for space.

you get points for beating the game quickly/ achieving certain goals that you can use for starting bonuses.

>>2977625
Only two monks have convert action for Army battles, and one is convert two which is kinda unnecessary usually.

>>2977566

Really? No offense, but it's pretty hard to believe when things are looking so grim.

>>2977584

Well, since this is my first play through, I can't get any bonuses.

>>2977599

Battle Permits basically make a unit autonomous right? Meaning it'll go off by itself to conquer territory? I'm not sure how helpful that is.

What you said about the sat bonus is very appealing, but if I use it all on +3 affection, I feel like I'd lose some very useful units (Those "amazing old men" were really helpful).

When you say don't conquer Iga, do you mean avoid fighting them completely, or is it okay to do what I did before and conquer everything but the last area? Thinking back, taking all areas except for the last one didn't really help much since it just meant every few turns they would attack me.

>>2977621

Whirlwind shot is the OHKO skill she gets right? I've used it several times, but more often than not it would miss. I guess I just have bad luck.

As for Urza and Sanada, well, the DA screwed both options over for me already. The best tactician I have would probably be Naoe Ai.

What's so special about Maria though? All three of you have mentioned her, so I'm guessing that calling reinforcements from Leazas are more useful than the ones from Zeth.

>>2977658
>Battle Permits basically make a unit autonomous right? Meaning it'll go off by itself to conquer territory? I'm not sure how helpful that is.
From what I've seen, battle permit = gain in territory. If you have five battle permit wielders, then that means you'll gain five territories each turn (doesn't work on the last bit of land though; you'll have to take that yourself). They're clearly broken.
>Whirlwind shot is the OHKO skill she gets right?
I'm not sure about the mechanics, but her attack seems to work more often when her troops outnumber the enemies troops. It'll fail occasionally, but you'll at least get one kill.

>>2977658
You do not need more than one amazing old man(yopu barely need one actually).
As for Iga, you should NOT declare war on them soon, since it breaks a gourd, makes the DA appear sooner and do not give much spoils.

Also, both countries, concerning reinforcements give a mediocre unit, a strong one and a BROKEN one.
Maria can kill almost as many troops as her unit currently has(excluding guarding) and get a skill where she does Double Damage in one hit. She is a costly unit, but she is worth it.
As for Battle Permits, they can both make conquering faster, and keep the opposition busy(aka, either reclaim areas you lost or conquer even more ares and force opposition to reclaim). In theory, with BAttle Permits, you can have two units auto-conquer two areas, and claim the last one on your turn.
And if the enemy tries to reclaim them, you are DEFENDING, aka you have the battle rating advantage.

Will I automatically get Yuzu when I conquer her house? I captured her after battle once, but one of my footsoldiers got killed so I reloaded and I didn't capture her in the next battle.

>>2977681

That does sound broken. Do they only pick fights with people you've already pissed off?

I guess taking a chance with her Whirlwind Shot twice per battle would ultimately be more useful than attacking 4 times, since she seems to do pretty low damage even with high troop counts.

>>2977696

Really? I found the amazing old men pretty useful for finding treasures and stuff. Of course, given what I've just heard about those reinforcements, maybe those are a better choice. Since you can't call them in once the DA shows up though, would it be a good idea to use my first 6 sat bonuses to call them in?

>>Also, both countries, concerning reinforcements give a mediocre unit, a strong one and a BROKEN one.

I'm guessing the mediocre/strong/broken units you're talking about are the 1st/2nd/3rd reinforcement units respectively.

Another question : leveling. I'm guessing that's a low priority thing after conquering and raising satisfaction/affection right? Should I leave dungeons alone until I get free time to do it? Aside from the necessary ones like Miki's of course.

Meant to ask this earliy but forgot: Is Suzume really that bad of a unit? I like her character and the scenes she has with Rance are hot and/or funny. Then again, so is just about every scene I've seen so far. Especially that threesome with those two princesses in Kyo. I have no clue why, but that was so damn hot.

>>2977753

I'd use one of the sat bonuses on the third fan.

>threesome with those two princesses in Kyo

Fuck yes that was hot

>>2977761

Oh, right. Make that the first 7 then, since the 3rd one would be to get a third fan.

>>2977753
>Another question : leveling. I'm guessing that's a low priority thing after conquering and raising satisfaction/affection right? Should I leave dungeons alone until I get free time to do it? Aside from the necessary ones like Miki's of course.
Well, if you want to milk it for all it's worth, do the dungeons only when you have your all-star team put together and you're happy with everyone. Otherwise, just save it until the endgame.
> Is Suzume really that bad of a unit?
It's not that she's bad; it's just that she's not that good (when compared to everyone else). Why pepper the enemy when you can just flat out paralyze/kill them? Her assassinate is pretty good, but it's a one shot ability that may end up doing nothing. She's better off in the secondary armies defending your land.
>Especially that threesome with those two princesses in Kyo. I have no clue why, but that was so damn hot.
Very yes.

>>2977753
Actually, the first renforcement is mediocre with a couple good qualities, the second is broken, and the third is strong (especially for Leazas).

>>2977793

Oh. I thought they would send their most powerful units last, but I guess I was wrong there.

>>2977792

>>Why pepper the enemy when you can just flat out paralyze/kill them?

That's a good way to put it. Also makes Whirlwind Shot look a like better. Shame though, I liked Suzume.

>>2977747
Yeah, if you defeat the Tanegashima house you'll automatically capture her and Tanegashima.

>threesome with those two princesses in Kyo

That was hilarious because they were more interested in lezzing it up with each other than Rance's dick.

goddamn Kenshin route sucks, fucking troll developers

"CONGRATULATIONS FOR BEATING TAKEDA BEFORE THE BLITZATTACKS WHILE HOLDING OFF ASAI-ASAKURA... but wait you cant get their last sublocation before Kenshin beats Baba
... oh and Kenshin got ill ... with ill we mean level down ... to 1 ...
have fun spending countless turns to get 40 satisfaction and talk to her to get her back to 60+ while getting blitzed every 2 to 3 turns..."

and then fucking bitch makes Mori declare War in the next turn ...

>>2977831

I really liked her rape face, like when she was teaching Rance how to shoot more semen.

>>2977911
Rance's setup of forceful grinding is awesome.

>>2977968
And that's why you don't raise Kensin's affection or spend Sat Bonuses at the start.
If you do the Sat.Bonuses, point by point affection raising and give her 2 levels each time, she can get 50 levels in less the 5-6 turns.
Though if you do NOT know that, you are fucked.

So, here is a question.
I'm doing 'Kill the monkey' route, to get the Mouri and One-Eye'd house bonuses.

But the sequences for Mouri's 'Curse removal' never come up.
I have recruited Sakamoto, I keep battling the fucker, I have conquered his provinces in different order, nothing.
Any ideas?
Gotta recruit other Takuga guys or something?

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>>2977968

if i remember she can't really kill him anyways since he has full buffs. you might be able to use the outdoors tactics book but i didn't have it at the time. you could always just not kill him and go for points somewhere else y'know.

>>2977995

talk to the ninja leader girl till she tells you about the dungeon.

>>2977968

I had the same thing happen, then Keikoku goes and causes literally everyone to declare war on me. I didn't even bother defending unless they were trying to advance on my " final line " or Owari which was my Stalingrad. Managed to squeeze in a Emperor Race victory and take the game.

Speaking of which is there any route or way you can finally kill (rape) Keikoku?

>>2978041
Baba can definitely be killed if you are about level 63+.

>>2978092

haha, no. baba at level 50 with full buffs will kill a lvl 63 kenshin easily.

>>2978101
I know because I did it.
Lv 61 Kenshin CANNOT kill him, no matter circumstances.
But 63 and 64 can, if he does not use captain charge (it's about Kenshin's Damage).
Also, when she is about 68 , she can kill him in just two attacks, one normal and strong.

Keikoku doori

>>2978041
The challenge came up, I won, I keep talking to her, even got her character clear.
Nothing.
I freaking earned the Takeda house bonus, but Mouri and One-Eye'd elude me due to stupid circumstances.

>>2978126

my kenshin wasn't even hurting him. she would need like 6 attacks.

>>2978136

do the 18 floor dungeon in mouri's land?

>>2978136
I forgot to search for the dungeon.
I can't believe this.

>>2978137
He can be beat, that's for sure, if you are in the later 60's.
Remember, certain items affect commander battles.

Anyone have a gamesave for this? I don't want something extreme with max gold and crap, just maybe 30-40 points for a boost. I recall someone provided one with some 60 points in the last thread.

>>2978176

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=J7CTZJT9

this is my save. 274 base points

So awesome!
I gave her an extra action point and sonic shuriken.
Together with Omachi she cannot loose.
Other one eye guys are just there to clean up the rest.

>>2978267
I hate you so much!
I only got 273 points ;_;

>>2978896
Nogikou is one of the best foot soldiers you can get.

The Hannys are having trouble!

They get crushed by Takeda no matter what ;_;

>>2978990
Hannys in FFA?

Ho do I play with them? Cant increase national power or recruit units.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm4214178

>>2979010

Are you having fun?

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If you release Seigan's nun--Manmaru, I think (the triplet)-- does anything good or bad happen? I'm thinking of keeping her, but I'm worried about a game over.

>>2979445
If you do not release her, it's a game over.
Try it once, though.

Can you call in reinforcements if the one you requested hasn't arrived yet? I just got my second bonus and it seems I have call in reinforcements even if I have 5+ national power.

I don't know if this can be fixed, but when running the game with english locale, all the ] become -n.

>>2979470

is this some new honorific?

>>2979487
-nyoron

I finished the game for the first time just now and I want to know, can I get points from free for all battles? If not, can someone give me a basic outline of how I can best get points through storymode? Which kind of attack pattern I should follow and such.

>>2979520

I don't think you can get any from free for all.
For story - try ran route, it's easier (at least it was for me, and you have more time to defeat masamune), try to use only clearable characters and clear them, give every commander end-game points ability, use carnival event whenever it shows up. Do not go into Sekimei's dungeon before fucking 300 woman and getting 30k troops. You should get around 80-100 points that way (on normal).

>>2979530

Alright, how hard is 5 star mode?

>>2979520

Conquer Hara and Ashikage quickly, Ignore Iga, go to Hojo through Tokugawa and Imegawa, attack Akashi and Tanegashima after conquering Tenshi sect, get into ran route just before conquering Mouri (uncursing motonari will help later on, and will unlock mouri family bonus).
Dont touch Takeda and Asakura as long as you can (Takeda blitz raeps, but when you can focus on them only, conquering them before blitz is easy).

Free for all mode is pretty hard.
Fighting Takeda with generic soldiers is impossible.

>>2979561
Here's a demon army blitz on 5stars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4TgO35BiZs

>>2979586
Who is that tactician girl?

Free for all doesn't give points, hmm?

>>2979591
Without watching the Video you're probably talking about the Zeth reinforcement Tactician Uruza.

Or Naio

First time playing through and Rance got level up after I raeped the mikos. Which level up bonus should take?

I've been trying to get the fourth action fan, but I never got the option at neither 160 nor 170 satisfaction, am I doing something wrong? All that's left at the moment is the Demon Army (owning Morroco and South Africa) and Dokuganryuu.

In FFA, as the demon army, how many levels are there to the challenge that you start off with?

I have gotten to six then ran out of people.

Playing for points sucks, but I need them. =(

Holy this this thread is still up.

Yamamoto's route is still untranslated, but Kouhime just disappeared in my game and there's an option to start it.
Should I anyways? How different is it from true?

I posted in a thread about this yesterday in a game where I wasn't doing very well and the demon army appeared and got most of the country

I managed to survive and win though, after about 180 turns. I must have got -140 points

I'm still on my first run and the youkai Ishijiji was released. I got the scene where Rance and Kou plan something in secret, but I didn't get any event after that. Do I need to do something else before I can stop Ishijiji from destroying Japan?

Oh god Yukihime just became the thief's sex slave for the rest of her life...

Why have I lol`d?

>>2979870
you get five turns and then it destroys Japan

You can send Suzume to stop its growth every turn at the cost of one fan

>>2979662
sometimes it shows up at 150 satisfaction

>>2979873
Because her tragic fate is so unnatural, it's funny. I seriously lol'd when Rance raped her in front of her father

>>2979873
well Rance has a big lineup of girls and I guess yukihime landed on tragic girl. Well it's not like you can't bring her in and use her as a commander.

how do you get the one eyed youkai girl? I've beaten her like 4 times on defense and I still haven't got her

At this point she is already broken.
Safe her fast or it is too late.

>>2979897
This way.

How much harder are all the difficulty settings compared to normal?

>>2979897
I think you need the kid commander with the hibachi skill. Also in battle be sure to wipe out her unit.

>>2979897
You need to have conquered Akashi, after losing a battle each turn(Nuhe events), recruited Kazemaru, and raised his affection to get Hibachi as his sub-commander.
And of course, still have him in the roster when you fight her.

>>2979915
I've only cleared 2*, but from what I've seen, enemy nations attack you multiple times per turn (rather than 1, imagine getting hit 5 times in a row!), and their army sizes grow exponentially faster than yours.

>>2979918
Funny thing about that, I've recruited Kazemaru, raised his affection to Trust, and got this event where he meets Hibachi after Rance shows up naked to him. Am I supposed to raise his affection further for Hibachi to join?

>>2979957
More precicely, the opposing armies are always scaled to yours.
When you UP the difficulty, it's scaled up by a larger factor.
No matter their preparation (see Demon Army take over)

>>2979983

Yes.

>>2979983
Check his stats.
He will get a nice upgrade.

Is there something in the game that prevents you from getting more reinforcements in additon to national power? I haven't gotten the choice to call in reinforcements after getting one and (I think) calling another, which still hasn't arrived. No DA yet.

>>2980094
National power never prevented me from getting my reinforcements, since the NP used would exceed my maximum and so, I would earn -50% gold per turn.

What does buddha statue in FFA mode?

Does FFA give -any- points?