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>>27902727
In before the Italian trash

claim your golden land invitation:
https://pastebin.com/Qyvbn09F

>>27902850
Take a niipaa~ from me, you're safe here!

which Higurashi is the most personally relatable for you? for me it's Shion.

>>27903878
For me it's Teppei.

>>27903878
For italianon it's surely Takano.

>>27903878
For me it's The Reader.

>>27903878
Tomitake

>>27904069
Takano. Ans she is my fav character in all fiction

Today, I will remind them. Without love, it cannot be seen.

pls consider adding my 07th chart to the archive, mega-anon
https://files.catbox.moe/m19qrz.png

>>27905804
Seconded.

>>27905804
Agreed.

ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org
a thread before the last one died fucking
put this because last thread no one repleid


the knock and the letter so i will try to solve it now
if you want discuss with me thanks

my goal is find another solution for this trick instead of Everyone lied that i find strange since the great number of red truths + Lambda made this trick:
so make the situation clear
these events take place in 2 different times and 3 different locations that we call:
Before conferance-BC and 24 p.m for times
outside, dining all and 2nd floor for the locations
Erika as Kanon can join the dining hall meanwhile Erika personality is outside into the detective's thougth dimension.
this satysfay the red truths about characters locations
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Truth
the difficult part is the knock

a simple solution is :
Kanon knocked from inside(red truth 'To knock' means someone hitting a door with their hand, this red does not specify which side),he was the closest to the door, so it wouldn't seem strange if the others, once they turned around, had already found him turned, then he pretended to find the letter he had hidden on himself.

for the letter this theory have no problems but this red truth deny this theory on the knock part:
>Let it be known that in addition to Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji, none of those in the dining hall knocked on that door. In this sense, 'knock' includes all direct, indirect, intentional, unintentional, and coincidental events that could create a knocking sound.

Kanon was inside too into the dining hall so my theory is destroyed but another red truth contradicts the previous one
>And none of them misinterpreted a knocking sound. Krauss, Natsuhi, and Genji were not involved with the making of the knocking sound. No one else existed inside the mansion. And that knock refers to the action of standing directly in front of a door and hitting it with a hand.
>Natsuhi, and Genji were not involved with the making of the knocking sound
meanwhile in the first red truth no one in the mansion could knock at that door now only people at 2nd floor cant do it
so people at dining all are able to making of the knocking sound and this red truth give us another hint
>knock refers to the action of standing directly in front of a door and hitting it with a hand
>a door
>A DOOR NOT THAT DOOR BUT A DOOR

so thanks with all these i can formulate another theory
Kanon Knocked at another door inside the dining all and the construction of the room allows an acoustics that confuse the source of sounds so people thought the knock came from the door on the corridor, then he pretended to find the letter he had hidden on himself.

Simple becsause 2 red truth contradict each others, this level of reasoning is possible for italian anon
What do you think, everyone?"

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2jnCfPy49Q
we were warned
why didn't we listen?

>>27903878
Reading through episode 3 at the moment but it's Mion for now--apparent murders committed by her notwithstanding

>>27908467
on a purely conceptual level, a brain parasite apocalypse is way better than the usual zombie nonsense. the "monsters" are technically alive but have been driven insane/taken over, the loss of their humanity is gradual and easy to miss until it's too late, and even fully converted alien parasite mind-slaves can still act like humans to deceive their prey and form complex plans.

>>27905538
today i will remind you
>>[RED] It's possible to show a different truth by using a different interpretation!!
>When multiple truths exist in parallel, the authenticity of both is questioned!!

Erikantrice explain the first 4 games without violating any red truth
So exist another truth and we can doubt about shkanontrice

>>27908983
Except Ryukishi07 is the judge. He has already declared the winning truth, just like Lambdadelta in episode 5.

>>27910114
even lambda was the judge
and her approve Natsuhi theory as truth before Battler propose his theory

i am Battler during ep5 who finally understand the truth and return to figth

>>27910155
Ryukishi is the judge, and he has deemed your truth false. Natsumi Kei is the only person who knows as much about the inside of the cat box as Ryukishi07.

>>27908395
This is even worse than usual.
When the trash cries

>>27905804
Good chart

>>27910286
he doesnt know that i am resurrected and ready to figth

when he reach my theory the final process will be opened

>>27910360
this is worst than usual
when the not an argument cries

ah, here they go again. and I was hoping they'd contain their autism to the other thread while it was still up at least
ah well, get your scorpion charms everyone. what you can't see won't annoy you.

>>27910621
Italianon, this is almost a proper English sentence. A few more years of this and you’ll be almost coherent. I am almost impressed

>>27910711
thanks anon
expirience gave me knowledge

>>27910447
There is no theory to be reached because Ryukishi doesn't accept your script. You're already btfo'd like lambda against Featherine.

>>27905804
thanks for reminding me, actually meant to when you posted it last

>>27910805
when R07 refuse my theory?

>>27910889
Yes, when Ryukishi07 rejects your script, just like Featherine did.

Anons, after making several changes to the iceberg, I have finally returned. I have added two more layers and all the theories from the previous thread. Because of this, a lot of reorganizing and rewording had to be done.
Regardless, I'm really happy with how this is turning out. It has a solid mix of theories, facts, and shitposts. I want to maintain this balance because I, personally, believe that it makes the iceberg both fun and intriguing.
The categories I'm using to organize this iceberg are legitimacy and obscurity. Theories that sound more like shitposts, have little/contradicting evidence, and are not well known, will end up lower than ideas that are widely supported by evidence and believable.
Of course, I am by no means an expert on all of these ideas. If you feel like something should be placed elsewhere or removed entirely, please let me know. I only ask for some level of reasoning as to why.
Otherwise, keep it coming anons. I can make plenty more room in this iceberg for whatever you have to offer. Some more stuff for the upper layers would be nice though.

Archive of the original iceberg thread: >>/jp/thread/S27075014#p27075014

v1 of iceberg posted in >>27658195

>>27910941
really much better than last one
to be perfect fix the red lines that divide the images + fit more things into the highest leves that seem too empy

the rest is perfect

>>27910925
send proofs

>>27911152
sent ;)

>>27911295
can you explain to me what you mean?
i don't really understand so much of this confusing situation

>>27910941
it's pretty good, I second the suggestions the other anon made. I think we should be able to come up with some more tip-of-the-iceberg theories. maybe "detective vp is objective", "hinamizawa syndrome is an allegory for depression", "hanyuu is irrelevant and a dumb ghost"

>>27910941
spelling is "hotarubi"

I'm finally reading Kamikanshi and the Rika solo sections are actually pretty great.

Everyone is so much more attractive when they're not Ryukishi mistakes, soulless PS3 dumpy plastic people or pachinko anatomical abominations

>>27912843
>ikuko
>tits
but manga-fags didnt belive that yasu was a male?

Maria onee-chan!

>>27912964
>when you're fucking 21-year-old maria and she starts uu-ing

>>27912964
grown-up maria finna be kinda cute...

I've got a feeling this won't end well...

Does Ange really?

>>27912924
I don't know if you're shitposting or talking seriously but either way this is Featherine not Ikuko

>>27913894
nope Featherine is the union of bullshit said about her

>>27911827
I rate it 8/10, even with the clunky machine translation.

>>27914081
Supremely surprised the western fandom hasn't cancelled Ryukishi

>>27914164
absolute madman

Is that one in the top left really his original design
How do you degrade that badly

The real moral of Umineko was don't get involved with Italians.

>>27917161
*fascists

sweet jesus

I wonder what kind of reward my mom will get after she wins the popularity poll, I hope it's a figure

>>27917755
No correction necessary, just look at these threads.

>>27908467
Where is the Covid 19 God girl?

>>27914221
Tamura is based, fuck those chink immigrants, City 23 is ours you- oh wait wrong pink haired girl.

Reminder that there was a Hou trailer at the end of RGD, implying it's basically the progression of its message

>>27912843
Are you ready for shiny haired :3 mouthed AuAu in Gou?

>>27919865
I will tolerate it if she has sufficient mommy energy

I love Ange

>>27903878
For me, it's keiichi

Seems like a nice point to wrap up the whole story. Not sure if i should keep progressing till the end as i'm plenty content with what i've red so far, what else could be said by the game from hereafter?

>>27926760
But of course i will look into the 4th ep if only for completion sake, just sometime later. For now i wish to tackle on some other piece of media, preferably in the similar vein to 07th expansion

>>27927446
Try out Danganronpa.
Crazy kids killing each other for an unknown reason. If you like Higurashi you're sure to love it.

>>27905538
>Confession was "found" by Ikuko.
>"Has" Eva's diary.
>Tohya is like chic-Beatrice and is influceable.
>Ikuko has the monopoly on truth.
Yeah I clearly see it. That's how Umineko works.

>>27929362
Yes, what's your point? Ryukishi clearly didn't have Tohya planned out from the beginning which is why it feels contrived.

>>27929714
>a witch tell to me that magic exist so magic exist
your arguments

>>27929869
What the hell is is about Umineko that makes so many people think that R07 is some 900 IQ mastermind genius writer who would flat out lie to the reader just for some epic puzzle?

>>27930435
Because umineko is an opera for 160+ iq people so the author must have 900 of iq

The real reason is umineko teach values like never accept something without proofs just because everyone else belive in it.
Usually authors respect what they write

>>27926049
Ange is a slut

>>27929714
You either see a witch that tells about the past or a witch that can change the past. How the events happened - Ange decided to make up things to give herself hope and a seemingly happier future. That's why we didn't learn from Ange about the full blood relation-ship between Battler and her and that the Rudulph culprit theory was pulic during her time at St. Lucia. In the manga she confessed it was already public (it doesn't make sense for an in-universe reader)
The same could be said about Yasu. Because it wouldn't change the past and would make someone else suffer she decided to write her confession and never show it to anyone, kill her past self and live along with your youth love who doesn't know who she is :). No wonder they didn't want a marriage. Ikuko couldn't fulfill marital obligations!

>>27927672
>danganronpa
Maybe if the the mysteries were actually good, the characters weren't one-dimensional, the dialogue wasn't cringeworthy, and the trial mechanics weren't suicide-inducing.

So what was the point of Ikuko?

>>27934554
I unironically believe she's Yasu.
You can of course disagree with my opinion.

>>27935858
I disagree

>>27912964
>"How do do you get the money for such cute dresses, onee-chan?"
>"Autism bux"

Ikuko wrote with Toyha to remember is the same as Beatrice played the games with Battler to remember.

>>27914081
>these lewd outfits were bait to troll us with Hanyuutaro

>>27915705
Why do people accuse Ryuukishi of being a bad artist? It's literally an intentional art style and he's pretty good at it.

>>27912964
Would adult Maria do porn and expose her hairy pussy to the world?

>>27912964
Maria was a bad influence. Because of her, a perfectly functional loli became a literal tulpamancer with no friends at 18. Ange is pathetic! She could've been a normie, but she got into this shit and became a weirdo!

>>27936995
nah. she might write/draw really fucked up smut or do audio productions though, considering her childhood trauma.
Maria の doujin empire

>>27936790
this
Umineko is just the magic version of this events

>>27937123
pathetic samefag.

KEIICHI CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS BROS

>>27937309

Choking on a spoon is the most terrifying death Ryu has ever come up with.

>>27937309
Keiichi specifically chose little girls as his targets because seeing them squeal and cry out with high pitched voices was cute and lewd.

This was foreshadowed in arc 3 when he immediately understood that Kameda-kun loves dessert because he has a fetish for destroying something beautiful and cute. Cakes = young girls.

>>27936790
Trash

>>27937123
Same poster trash

>>27939802
>cakes = young girls
Get over yourself, Takano.

Why did the anime leave out the part where the Angel Mort otakus are spirited away by Rika, never to be seen again?

Or the part where Ooishi forces the punks to drink alcohol so he can arrest them for drunk driving in Arc 2? That was evil as fuck.

Does the PC version of Higurashi Daybreak only work on XP? Has anyone tried it on newer systems?

>>27940400
Worked for me on 10, but there is some stutter in the loading screens and opening.

>>27940279
to learn who rules over you, ask who you aren't allowed to criticize. in nippon that still seems to be some variant of conservativism.

https://youtu.be/S-hRHlZaWLQ

1:21

The music makes this a hundred times more hilarious.

>>27940471
Did you play it directly on Windows 10? I heard there is an XP compatibility mode. Shouldn't that mode make it play without any issues?

>>27940603
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RPfuolqhHE
this is pretty good too

>>27940400
Are there any downsides to the PSP Mega Edition version? It has a lot more content, remixes and characters, but I have no idea if the engine is the same or if the PSP emulator causes any issues. Is it straight up superior or does it have downsides?

Anyway, Daybreak is a fucking treasure. It's the ultimate fanservice game.

>>27940400
>>27940471
>>27940603
A-Are you telling me that old ass VNs can have problems too? What the fuck. Will the original release of Higurashi be unplayable eventually or is there a workaround that lasts for all eternity, such as a Windows XP emulator or something similar to the PC98 emulators? I don't want to depend on Windows choosing or not choosing to put official XP modes in their new versions.

>>27940938
That's literally George's blushing face.

>>27940952
>amazing music remixes and original tracks
>chibi graphics that look close to the original sprites
>adorable cutscenes in story mode
>different routes depending on the character pairing you choose
>can play as literally any character, including Akane and Natsumi
>each character has several outfits and weapons with different playstyles and two energy modes
>Hinamizawa Syndrome as a mechanic
>lots of open 3D maps including random parts of the mountains
>can recreate the watergun battle at the school and hide in the same places Keiichi did to fool the AI
>jump stamina can be converted into gliding stamina to let you fly like a gauntlet knight
>feels like a fun party fighter rather than a dry fighting game
>early Bernkastel mode for Rika
>demon Hanyuu with the sword
I like it better than Golden Fantasia. Both are great, but I like how complete this feels and I enjoy the gameplay and controls a lot.

>>27933102
Are you talking about Higurashi or Danganronpa?

>>27941572
Swimsuit Mion with Super Soaker and Towel Satoko with the setting traps is my favorite pair. I also enjoy the constant pantyshots on every girl.

>>27941815
I love Higurashi's trial mechanics

>>27941884
>tfw no mod for birthday suit Satoko

https://higurashidaybreak.fandom.com/wiki/Costumes

Can someone tell me how to use the penalty costumes outside netplay mode in PSP Daybreak? There must be a way, right? They wouldn't program literal mad costumes into the game and restrict them to some dumb online mechanic.

>>27942286
I'm not sure if they changed this detail in the other versions (didn't play them), but towel Satoko is actually going commando in the original.

>>27940952
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/945971-higurashi-daybreak-portable/46835531

If this is accurate, there are indeed some downsides.

>>27942587
Maybe some of the gameplay downgrades were fixed for the Mega version? That's the one that includes Satoshi and Miyoko, making this one outdated.

>tfw just finished chapter 6 and read the post-game tip
I don't know what the fuck is going on still lmao

>>27943485
>chapter 6 post-game tip
what would that be?

>>27943522
the one where asaka returns to hinamizawa 20 years after the disaster. Ooishi was supposed to show up but doesn't for some reason. they go to the swamp and find it flooded with concrete and they reevaluate the writings of Miyo Takano and call her writings the "devils script"

>>27940707
Yes. I'm not really an expert of this kind of stuff, but compatibility mode didn't seem to make much of a difference.
https://files.catbox.moe/mbyeab.mp4

>>27943586
I felt the same way.
That is, truly heartbroken.

>>27939915
Dunno why the post was called trash. It's a true statement. Otherwise, what's the point of forgeries and games? I believe some people went paranoid and see Italianon posts everywhere.

>>27947990
Brainlets gonna brainlet.

>>27910941
>Adult Rena wrote Ciconia
>Ryukishiverse magic circuits system
>Hanyuu is the real target victim of Higurashi (reincarnated Hanyuu in Rika)
>Satoko is Lambdadelta piece (this one if from my theory that Witches have many pieces we might not know)
>Cicada 3301 is related to Higurashi
>Lambdadelta Ladder = Despair Code
>Hinamizawa Syndrome decalcifies pineal gland

>>27942489
>towel Satoko going commando
>school swimsuit Rena showing half of her butt cheeks
Lewd! This game is lewd!

>>27948551
>Spiritium is adrenochrome

>>27948796
This 100% I forgot to mention spiritium.

>>27902727
Is Ryukishi going to pull the rug out from under Rika's happy ending?

>>27949250
I hope so

>>27949421
I hate you, but I hate that Ryukishi is smiling at posts like yours and laughs derisively at fools like me even more...

>>27903878
Rika.

George is ryukishi's self insert from the human side

How does Gun Mion's special work? She just defends in place. Is it like George's special? I can't seem to get it to do anything.

>>27948796
>BTG drinks Midori's sweat to survive (it contains the adrenochrome if she's suffering)
>youkai survive by eating the souls of troubled children and it tastes better the more miserable they are
>voyager witches are like archons, existing in a higher dimension, giving bad people power so they can cause a lot of suffering and they feed on it
>spiritium is found in places where a lot of people died
>Naima abuse theory

>>27951302
He doesn't drink loli sweat, he drinks the pheromones directly from the sweat that evaporates from her body. Remember the classroom scene.

>>27948754
I noticed this too. Mion has perfectly modeled butt cheeks. You can see it with her casual outfit.

>>27948384
>Nonsensical comment
Well, I will happily die before I know what you meant.

>>27948384
Are you Italianon?

>>27947990
It’s not a true statement
There’s good reason to assume that Ikuko and Yasu are totally different characters and you really have to work hard to argue otherwise.
Also the post read a lot like Italianon grammar

>>27942489
Towel Satoko is wearing a super lewd fundoshi in the PSP version. I'd say that'd an improvement over skin colored pixels. She actually has a modeled butt this time, only with a fundoshi between her cheeks.

Just finished chapter 8. Shit was good. Now I'm wondering if I should bother with the extra arcs. If they flesh out the world/characters I'm for it, if it's all just fan-service I don't want to bother. Anyone know which ones I should play? Also I heard the new anime series is a continuation of where the VN left off?

>>27953158
Play Saikoroshi for a decent epilogue and Outbreak/Kamikashimashi for wacky syndrome shit with aliens

>>27953158
Saikoroshi from Higurashi Rei. It's a must read. The game and translation patch should be in the mega.

So is Rika 100% confirmed to be Bernkastel? Like after she exits the "maze" of the universe where she is Rika Furude she goes to the Umineko universe and becomes Bernkastel?

>>27954318
Probably. I doubt R07 thought too deeply about it himself. Higurashi is at times a videogame, a novel, and an actual fragment within Umineko at the same time.

To complete the mega, I find the stage play of Last Season of RGD : https://mega.nz/file/QctgBCaD#dMYCkrOEvVmQE1h8xPtbCtYm7FWTP2SYciKaY0ptPdQ
Season 3's stage play still have no seed on nyaa.

>>27954610
And sometimes, the Sonozakis scam Krauss into buying land on the moon. Who knows whether Ryuk even thought about the connection.

>>27954719
I found*

>>27954757
No no those were the Sonozekis, completely different

>>27954318
Technically Rika's human side keeps going on with her life (like we see in Gou) while Bernkastel goes around weaving her fanfic fragments (like we see in Matsuri's second ending), I guess at some point she gets bored of that, leaves the Hinamizawa territory and goes fuck around with other witches' territories

>>27954318
>So is Rika 100% confirmed to be Bernkastel? Like after she exits the "maze" of the universe where she is Rika Furude she goes to the Umineko universe and becomes Bernkastel?
No, Bernkastel is her own characters. I think Matsuribayashi and Saikoroshi make that pretty damn clear. She just came from Rika, but Rika and Bernkastel are separate since the beginning of Higurashi.

>>27955495
>duude

why does Shion tell Keiishi that the moment she decided to become a demon was when he gave Rena the doll? Why did she give a fuck? In the game it's treated like no big deal in the 5th arc and that obviously Mion was hurt over it but it barely impacted Shion... the only two explanations I can think of is Ryukishi was being a dumbass and was writing the arcs as he went along, OR that Shion and Mion are actually the same person and Shion/Mion suffers from a split-personality disorder

>>27955779
she's pretending to be mion, remember? it's part of her improvized sob story, same as the history of hinamizawa and how much the position of family successor weighed on her.

>>27955933
Hot

1-5 I start Umineko
6-9 I start Ciconia
0 I do the extra arcs for Higurashi

>>27955933
sacred prostitution seems more spiritually healthy than secular prostitution desu. just get your local priestess to jerk you off to deal with your carnal desires in a non-sinful way.

1-5 I stop my manifesto
6-9 I inform about real truth of umineko

>>27956140
>the zero on the roulette
almost poetic.

>>27954719
we are one step closer to collecting them all

>>27956140
>0

>>27956140
Based Erikantrice hacked the destiny
Real truth confirmed

>>27956055
Alright looks like I'm playing Umineko. So I see it classified under visual novels rather than light novels. So are there choices?

>>27956330
no. you really should read saikoroshi at least. it's just 4 hours anyway.

>>27954719
Man this is surprisingly good

>>27956388
alright

Is it bad that I actually discovered umineko through the rosatrice guy's videos

Anyone else thought Tsuimihoroboshi was overrated? Everyone acts like it's the greatest chapter ever, for me it was one of my least favorite. Seemed devoid of horror elements I love. The entire hostage situation at the end was wayyyyyyyy too long as well, it felt like the sword/bat fight dragged on particularly long

>>27956904
it's the renafag chapter, of course they love it above all else

>>27955779
You are a retard.

>>27957003
>>27956904
I started off a Renafag but gravitated to Mion/Rika

>>27957729
I'm proud to say that I've always been a Mionfag, but Rika has been progressively getting higher on the list. I need more Saikoroshi Rika.

>>27955779
Did you even read/watch the fifth arc? Its explained there as clear as day.

>>27956904
>Seemed devoid of horror elements I love
What the fuck? Did you even actually read it?

>>27952731
This was a comparison. You made that assumption about Ikuko=Beatrice. They try to make Battler to remember something. That's they have in common and it's true.

God the OSTs that play during the final fights are so much better in the stage play

>>27956904
I think people tend to overrate it because the way it gives the reveals for Onikakushi while the arc itself is an inversion of it is pretty kino

Was it really necessary to specify BLACK TEA all the time

>>27960431
do the nips even have a word for "just tea"? I think the language naturally specifies which type.

>>27960431
Yes

>>27954719
>start out by selling your doujin powerpoint presentation on the street
>15 years later you get stage play adaptations like this
definition of making it. did ryuks write the script himself?

>>27958607
When does Ikuko do this?

Hit me with some clever locked room murder solutions

>>27961403
define locked, room and murder

>>27953111
>"Ryuukishi sensei, we need to cover Satoko up for Sony because the texture under the towel looks like cunny"
>"F U N D O S H I"
Based. They chose the most pathetic underwear in existence.

>>27961403
Room is locked but has no ceiling haha

>>27960677
Higurashi started out as a play script called Hinamizawa Bus Stop. It was rejected and that's when Ryu decided to make Higurashi. His whole doujin novel career has been a revenge against the play industry until RGD finally became a play.

>>27960830
Is this an autism test? I won't respond to this question.

>>27961715
You just did, retard.

>>27961403
Ep6 logic error
Erika Become Kanon
Save Battler then return Erika

Ep5 hideyoshi room
George hide under the bed
Hideyoshi enter
Erika enter,close the room and hideyoshi turn back
George come out and kill hideyoshi from his back
George return under the bed and erika exit from the window
After the discover of the body ,erika made everyone go away without inspect the room
George came out after everyone left

Wish we got to see more of the Meakashi world. I have a feeling that Shion's rampage would become an even more infamous incident that the disaster itself. They would talk about her on murderpedia 40 years after the fact. Also, the old torture chamber would be raided by the police and the Sonozakis would have to leave the village in shame because of what Shion did.

>>27961715
This guy has autism

Man, Hempel's Raven is such a long winded way of saying if there is no extra person the culprit is among the others

>>27961403
gun in wardrobe go book

>>27911455
Thank you anon. These ones will fit quite well in the higher levels.
>>27948551
Good ideas anon. Curious as to what you mean by Lamdadelta Ladder = Despair Code though.
Also, the decalcification idea for Hinamizawa Syndrome is really interesting. Although, it seems that it would benefit the characters more than detriment them. Wouldn't it make more sense for it to calcify the gland? What do you think anon?
>>27948796
This one could unironically be true to a certain extent if you think about it. If a lot of people died, there's bound to be a lot of suffering.
>>27951302
Thank you anon. These will really help fill up the upper and middle layers.

>>27961709
Higurashi also had a stage play, recently, that adapts Watanagashi and Meakashi.
But IMO, Hinamizawa Bus Stop was quite bad.

Why do people always specify "stage play" as if that isn't what most people think of when they hear the word play
Like, who the hell hears the word play and automatically assumes it's a radio play or something

>>27962163
They get decalcified pineal gland and gain access to it without any training so they get insane from constant influence of the gland.
Lambdadelta Ladder its when she explains how she stopped going down the abyss I think its the image that the picture has for the deepest level.

>>27962288
in my case, stage play adaptation just has a better sound than play adaptation

>>27961773
Why do you still annoy me? Is that your childish revenge after you had shown how bad your knowledge about Umineko is?

>>27962541
Lamdadelta ladder makes a lot more sense now. I think I remember a part of the VN and manga where she talks about something along those lines. I'll have to go back and check.
I'm still struggling to find evidence for the pineal gland though. It seems that an uncalcified pineal gland means you are healthy. The worst that could happen is that the parasite could cause an increase in melatonin, resulting in sleep deprivation and anxiety. Though that doesn't explain the loss of sanity and severe hallucinations. On the other hand, calcification can result in "Some researchers believe that pineal calcification was associated with certain endocrine diseases such as schizophrenia, and mammary carcinoma [69,70,71,72,73,74,75]".
Also, "Decades ago several studies pointed out the relationship between the pineal calcification and schizophrenia [73,166,167,168]"
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017004/
I know I'm being an autistic retard, but simply switching it from decalcification to calcification makes it a lot more legitimate in my opinion.

>>27963472
Just make the pineal thing look crazy its what the iceberg is for.

>>27903878
Zion, la hermana de shion y mion

>>27905804
subarashi chart-anon

>>27963472
Not the same anon here but there are myths about how decalcifying your pineal gland makes you more attuned to the supernatural. It could explain things like everyone being able to see Hanyuu in Matsuribayashi, and hear her in the other chapters.

>>27953491
are outbreak/kamikashimashi supposed continuations (even if not canon) of masturibayashi/saikoroshi or a different fragment altogether?

>>27948551
Pretty sure Takano and Satoko both being Lambdas pieces is canon. There are heavy parallels drawn between them visually, with the phone calls, them being friends, clawing their way up from being a weak girl through absolute certainty and so forth. Higurashi was a game that was made to be impossible because both of Lambdas pieces could not reach a win condition at the same time.

>>27964885
Oh, well I kinda wish the other anon had just said that in the first place. That makes a lot more sense.
>>27964362
I'm just gonna shove it somewhere in the middle or bottom. Currently updating it right now.

>>27964993
I really doubt the game is supposed to not be winnable for Lambda, and also Satoko as a character would hardly have an actual win condition, other than something vague. I do believe both are probably Lambda's pieces but since Takano has the more explicit connections and is the one who actively antagonizes Rika, I'd say she's the main piece.

>>27965160
It definitively was not won by either side for a while to the point that they gave up. Given the incompetence of Rika and all the good guys either Lamnbda could have easily won and just liked watching her suffer or there were some really difficult challenges for her built into the game. Not dying or succumbing to Hinamizawa Syndrome seems like a good enough win condition for Satoko.

For anons who own the physical of Umineko (EP1 to 4 and Chiru), do the DVD case only include the disk or there is also a little booklet?

>>27964941
I think it's supposed to be one of the fragment fanfics Bern says she'll make at the end of Matsuri, none of the usual June 1983 rules apply and I think Rika is aware Takano's evil in these arcs? I may be mistaken on that last bit

>>27964993
>>27965160
The entire Hojo family represents an almost invincible fate that was only beaten by the power of trying really hard to win.
Remember in Tatari when Tatari when K1 goes bonkers? His certain will, which from his point of view caused hundreds of people to die, happened at the same time he started talking to "Satoshi", I doubt that's a coincidence. The death of the reporter in 2003 could very well be Lambda awarding Keiichi's certain will by making his very last prediction happen with certainty.

>>27902850
It's so bad that this one guy ruins our entire reputation...

my wife Tits and her mions

>>27962541
This does explain why HS makes you perceive supernatural shit. But Hanyuu is also the parasites.

Updated the iceberg. Feel free to keep giving me suggestions. Although, I feel like we are nearing the end. I know there are a few more Ciconia theories we could add, but my mind is hazy at best. I do plan to update this over time though, since Iwahime, Ciconia, and Gou will give us more information to work with.

To activate GBA higurashi what is the '.' button supposed to represent? In the 07th mega this is what it says to do to unlock it.

>>27969588
>AOU futInarification
Is this a typo?

>>27969588
Great job anon
Now i think is perfect

>>27969588
>Kyrie laced Angie's food with laxatives so she could stay home and escape the massacre

Also "magic doesn't exist" should be at the top.

>>27969588
Wait, why would Jessica have a strong motive?

>>27970710
Gohda raped her

>>27969588
Where is black battler on this chart anyways? Seems like the most obvious thing missing.

>>27970555
Ange is responsible for her own misery. If only she didn't have an arse, none of it would've happened.

>>27969588
Is there some sheet or video or something similar that explains all the Umineko fan theories people created over time in detail? I've only seen the Rosatrice video.

>>27971095
Read erikantrice manifesto
the real truth of umineko
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

ERIKA IS KANON

>Hanyuu is Featherine's piece

This one may actually get confirmed in Higurashi Gou.

Erika is pregnant!

>>27971558
i dont get this "fetish"

>>27971609
Primal procreation instinct.

>>27970555
>>27970774
I'll make sure to add these. Kinda surprised by how full the top is getting now.
>>27970710
Anon posted their theory in the iceberg thread I linked the archive to in my original post >>27910941
>>27971095
Not that I know of. But I guess the iceberg somewhat serves as that, even if it doesn't have everything and is sprinkled with a few shitposts here and there.

>>27953111
The fuck is a fundoshi?

>>27971609
The Miracle of life is not a fetish anon

>>27973667
Those loincloth things nips wear

It is simply impossible for George to not be a culprit in Bern's game. Observe the obvious contradiction.
Rule: There are no lies in the narration.
Rule: Characters who are not culprits only speak the truth.
Rule: A culprit must carry out all murders directly, with their own hands.
Narration: "[Nanjo] died in the entrance hall of the guesthouse."
George: "This was an instant death."
George: "No one could kill Doctor Nanjo inside the guest house."
The narration is absolute, and it's impossible for Nanjo to die inside the guesthouse instantly from an attack delivered to him outside the guesthouse.

>>27940952
In this vein, does the psp version have a translation patch or am I stuck with google translate camera

>>27975186
It doesn't, as far as I know. But it's pretty easy to figure out, if it's the menus you are worried about.

I'm playing the Mega Edition version downloaded from Lambdadelto's blog, using the PPSSPP emulator. It's pretty good. If you need help with the mechanics, menus, unlockables, controls or anything else, I'll be glad to help. There are some obscure things in that game that guides don't tell you.

>that time Moriya Marie pulled a toy story and traumatized a kid for life

Regardless of story and personal investment, do you prefer the countless real fragments of Higurashi, the endless possibilities of the catbox in Umineko or the _____________ of Ciconia?

I hate some of you in this general, and you know who you are. You prevent me from enjoying WTC. Please die.

おわり

>>27979561
Please elaborate.
Who do you mean?

>>27953111
>fundoshi between her cheeks
Pathetic! How can Satoko live with herself? She shows more butt skin than anyone else in the game!

So I got my friend into Higurashi, how do I explain to him that wanting a Shion gf is perfectly normal

Returning from the grave to ask if anybody here still has Magic Time, that mastercraft seacats Hard Time modification.

>>27973997
This
Based anon

>>27979561
Don't let goats keep you from enjoying things.

>>27979561
Actually WTC teach to argue and discuss with people with have different ideas anon

Iwaihime in a couple more days.

>>27982556

Should I read Ciconia asap or can I wait? How good is it

>>27954719
Here's Season 3
https://mega.nz/file/x1lygaqT#HyMJsl3WNlvUc-yH3OZYg_Ol9DuoXV3CvXlENZubScM

>>27982680
Thanks!

You can now buy physical of Ryukishi07's works (Ciconia, Umi Saku, TRT, Higanbana, and 07thExp Karuta set) directly from 07th Expansion! https://shop.cubsworks.com/

>>27970768
Italianon confirmed this as canon, so it is definitely 100% true

>>27973997
No

>>27982602
far from finished so who cares unless you like waiting a year between chapters

>>27982602
Chapter 2 isn't even announced yet and nobody is really actively discussing it right now so read it at your own convenience. It's pretty divisive as to whether it's good but I personally liked it a lot.

Do the MG Higu releases in the folder work with 07th-mod? Since the new show turned out to be a sequel I thought I'd just finally read the VN instead of trying to remember details of shit I watched in the 00s.

>>27989108
Only their newer releases, which in the Mega are listed as "[07th Expansion／MangaGamer] Higurashi When They Cry Hou" in the folders for Higurashi and Kai for the question and answer arcs respectively.

>>27989505
Oh, I was using the wrong one before. I got it to work now, thanks. Doesn't seem to have an option for the original sprites though. Is that only for Umineko?

>>27989108
>07th-mod
Why? You probably think this is a good idea, but you'll be harming the experience. Don't come back saying "the VN is alright" or "Umineko was better" when it's your own fault for adding voices that kill the atmosphere and cringy CGs that pull you out of the immersion.

>>27989108
>>27990254
What do you want the mod for if you want original art? Literally just download the vanilla MG version WITHOUT the update that changed the music. That's all you need.

>>27990330
>>27990390
I was under the impression it was a completely configurable wrapper with every possible combination of options so I could fiddle around but I can't even take it out of 16:9. Guess I'll stick to the old version.

>>27990707
The old version of Higu has really bad translation. You can take the new one as the other anons said.
But, if what you're interested is to have OG BGM/sound effects you only have to follow theses instructions.

>>27991572
Forgot to paste the link :
https://07th-mod.com/wiki/Higurashi/Manual-Installation/#bgm-and-sound-effect-patches

>>27903878
I'm personally torn between Shion and Keiichi.

>>27903878
Rika

>>27955933
>Rika-chama will never purify our sins with her body
truly this is a fallen world

https://youtu.be/sa600CuZCfs

What the FUCK is this ending? Did Hanyuu wish to have a vibrator stuck in her cunny and can't take it out?

>>28003360
Holy shit based, why didn't anyone tell me the endings were this good

SAY MY NAME

>>28006106
Sex slave

>>27964853
post full image pls

>>28006106
Go away italianon

>>28008104
>136323647068
The edit seems to came from way before his apparition. Some people actually believe in that theory when EP6 came out.

>>27992565
Little grls in sandals are too powerful

>>28008608
fuck off
i made this edit

then Erikantrice was discovered by Me
>but muh Erika=Kanon was before you
like vikings they discover just a little part of the real truth of umineko and immidiatly stop thinking about it

I am cristoforo Colombo

>>28008691
Modern chink roris wear crocs.

>>28008691
Fundoshi + towel combo is superior. Satoko wins.

>>28009422
I am yet to see visual evidence of this fundoshi

I came up with the idea for Erikantrice, italianon stole it from me. Shame on him.

>>28009728
fuck off viking
send proof?

the only Erika=Kanon thing i found out before me was an image and an article about a shkanon fag who confute this image with the manga

>>28009897
I don't need proof, I have justice on my side.

>>28009995
nox's 8th
It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

>>28009647
Just play the game and you'll see. It's unlocked by default.

>we saw Satoko's completely naked cunny, belly and nipples in the original VN
>we saw Rena's completely naked ass in the fourth season of the anime
How come Ange is associated with humiliation when these underage lewdites have canonically had their shameful humanity exposed?

>>28010156
Irrelevant.
I am disgusted that you stole your shitty theory from someone else.
Shameful

>>27979763
Satoko has always been a ridiculous creature. Imagine Satoko taking a shower, diligently smearing soap all over her preteen armpits and butt crack. It's such an obscene sight, the kind that would make her commit suicide if one of her friends accidentally walked in! And yet, this has happened in canon hundreds upon hundreds of times! Satoko is so used to cleaning herself that she doesn't even notice how pathetic she looks as she rubs every nook and cranny of her body with the soap! She's used to being pathetic! Lewd!

Can you believe that italianon stole his theory?
Pathetic!

>>28011229
Can't believe Italianon's a hack.

>>28011276
I can, honestly.

>>28011229
fake i create my theory without know about Erika=Kanon was already bad created

look the archive
there is the message when i deduce Erika=Kanon

>>28011487
>Look through thousands of posts in the archive, I don't have to prove myself
Pathetic attempt. Try to steal a bit more subtly the next time you're going to write a manifesto.

>>28011487
I looked at the archive and found out you were raped by your uncle. Pathetic. I wonder what your family thinks. You are a pitiful rapee lmao.

>>28011487
Filthy thief

>>28011487
the limited amount of respect i had for you has completely evaporated because of this

>>28011487
not only are you a filthy esl Italian
not only are you a tranny
not only were you raped
but you stole your theory as well

>>27983109
>no umineko and higurashi jewel case releases
disappointed

>>28011724
>>28011946
>>28012227

my theory born as George's theory then when i discover Erika=Kanon i created Erikantrice
so was unique
look the image in this message i discoverd Erikantrice

>>28012464
Trash

>>28012019
look here
>>28012464

>>28012464
But this was my post.
You just linked MY post.

>>28012616
Thieving rape victim trash

>>27902727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C4cvMijp0s
how embarrassing

>>28012996
Ange is pure!

>>27903878
rena

>>28012996
Can’t believe someone filmed the Erikantrice manifesto

I'm new here, is this kind of autism common here or is this some kind of stage play?

>>28013387
it's always like this

>>28013409
Nice i will feel right at home

>>28013387
>new here
DID YOU KNOW THE REAL TRUTH OF UMINEKO?

i discover the real one and i called it Erikantrice
Erikatrice is a theory explained in these 4 points:

1)George and Kanon are the culprits in all the games (including Bern's game and Reality) with Genji,Kumasawa and Nanjo as accomplices.

George was the true heir of Kinzo, both were puppet of their family until a woman make them true man and for this woman( castiglioni for Kinzo and Shannon for George) they killed everyone on Rokkenjima

2) ep5 and 6 are explained with Erika=Kanon
ep5 was a consirancy against Natsuhi
first Erikanon gain the trust of the family by solving the epigraph(detective authority) then give to everyone an alibe except Natsuhi
Meanwhile George commited the murders so Erika could accuse Natsuhi of these crime and humiliate her
same thing for ep6 just against Battler

3) Kanon is not Shannon
Yasu born as a female since Kinzo was afraid of commit the same sin again
what sin?
make pregnant his daugther and you cant get pregnant a male
so Kanon is a cute tomboy and fap on her is not gay

4)Ikuko is Yasu
Yasu tried to kill herself, Battler saved her but lose his memory so Yasu choice to live for him.
she become Ikuko and start to create stories about rokkenjima to make Battler solve them in the hope of get his memory back

all umineko is the magic version of these events


read here Erikantrice manifesto for more info:
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

>>28013387
remember to redeem your free ticket to the golden land

>>28012996
Nerf this!!

>>28013473
Trash

autiszmus

>>28009728
I really doubt this. I spoon-fed Italianon with Erika=someone of the original cast theories and look what he have became!

>>28013473
Shkannon is a gold truth.

>>28013760
fake

>>28012996

>>28013760
True

>>28013705
Why is Italianon such a second rate thief?

>>28010544
>>28011097
Satoko so cute and yet! And yet!

>>28013906
Nah, what's the chance that two geniuses have the same idea?

>>28013906
i am not a thief
i discover Erika = Kanon after many discussion and many reread
and this complete my theory

Niggas rate Executioner but IMO Hell's Halls and Thunberg Lily and Hour of Darkness are more important to setting the tone.
Also why can't I find Hell's Halls or Thunberg Lily online? Are they called something different in the mainstream translation or something?

>>28014760
ah yes, very true.

According to the BD episode list on the higurashi anime site, we can assume that the 24 episodes will be divided into 5 arcs with the following episode counts: 4-4-5-4-7.

Here's something interesting though: the date for the Umineko switch release (1/28) coincides with the same day in which a new Higurashi episode comes out. This episode (episode 17) will be at the end of the fourth arc.

Here's my theory: Featherine (or any Umineko tie-in) will be introduced in Episode 17 to coincide with the Umineko switch release. There is absolutely no way they would pass up this opportunity, it's the perfect marketing strategy. It being revealed at the end of the fourth arc also assumes that Featherine will be introduced as some kind of big reveal.

>>28015024
could also be 3 arcs a 8-9-7

>>28015024
>There is absolutely no way they would pass up this opportunity
Just you watch 'em
Hope you're right though

>>28015024
I can't wait that long for smug hito no kos

>>28014474
The secret of the character of Sayo is the core of Umineko’s story, so her inner workings and development were designed carefully and with the utmost complexity.

In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)

With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.

Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.

Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.

By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.

>>28016375
What if he's trying to bamboozle everyone

>>28016447
When italianon cries
He laughs

>>28016375
>I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail
Shkanontrice won so you were forced to write something pro-Shkanontrice without violate it.
> I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.
without love it cannot be seen
a solution for goat is not the solution of Umineko
>Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.
Shkanontrice is impossible in umineko manga since closer room circle is impossible
>It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.
nice try R07
finnally after 10 years your witch is going to die
but dont worry , her requeim will make her legendary

So what exactly was the objection to Ikuko and Tohya being married

>>28016829
The story is that the female 7th expansion staffers thought it ruined the love story between Battler and Beatrice so he backtracked on the Tonya and Ikuko marriage

>>28016829
Shkanontrice fags dont belive in Ikuko=Yasu

>>28016867
It's been fucking decades and Tohya is a distinct person from Battler
Like, let it go

>>28016867
Fuck females, they ruined my wholesome IkukoxTohya headcanon.

>>28016867
battler died alongside beatrice and tohya tried to lay the ghost to rest, but the staffers wanted to chain him to battlers commitments forever somehow?
ryukishi is surrounded by goats.

>>28016829
Because Ikuko is for me

>an eccentric rich woman will never find you on the roadside and decide to keep you
Why even live

>>28017070
I bet you aren't even standing on the roadside frequently enough to make your dreams come true anon. A miracle is just a question of probability, if you try for long enough you can find her

>>28017070
you mean the serial killer that you love tried to kill herself and to save her you lost memory so she become a writer and take care of you

>>28017070
Is there an Ikuko version of
>are you well do you have brain damage

WAIT IF BATTLER AND IKUKO WERE SUPPOSE TO MARRY
WHY NO CHILDREN?
SIMPLE IKUKO IS STERILE WHY?
BECAUSE SHE IS YASU

AGAIN ANOTHER WIN

>>28017137
>why no children
because they aren't married or in a relationship

>>28017070
>an eccentric rich woman will never hit you with her car, cause severe brain damage which permanently alters your personality and eventually cripples you in the process and decide to keep you out of pity
Feels good, bros.

>>28017176
but if were suppose to marry , why no children?

>>28017200
And yet again you demonstrate to have absolutely no grasp on the story. Sagusa, italian anon!

>>28017200
why should they have children?

>>28017137
Because Ryukishi07 never fleshed that part out. Duh.

>>28017246
because if you get married usually you have sex according with Erika
>>28017235
>>28017235

nope in ep 6 Ikuko have no children

>>28017102
Trash

>>28017306
But they weren't married or supposed to marry you decrepit fuck. Read the VN for once.

>>28017137
Idiot

>thread on autosage
>anons start taking the bait again
sasuga you absolute retards

>>28017344
r07 change idea in ep8 rigth?
so before that for Ryukishi Ikuko was married with Battler

>>28017306
Ikuko is asexual

>>28017389
>r07 change idea in ep8 rigth?
Wrong. What makes you think so?

>>28017433
because tohya character is of ep8
so R07 coworker could discover this only during ep8
>>28017432
if you marry you are not asexual

I find Tohya's story incredibly sad but most fans seem to hate him for keeping his distance to Ange.
I get the sentiment, but to him the Ushiromiyas were nothing more than a fleeting dream, an illusion which could destroy his personality if he thought too deeply about it.
Why the hate?

Ange: Pardon me but are the two of you married
Tohya: No
Ikuku: But we have been living together for years
Ange: I see...what is going through my head
Ikoku: But we do have sex <3

>>28017606
nameless one did the moral thing by acknowledging the sins of his past iterations and trying to atone for them. tohya should have done that as well.

>>28017698
Updated my journal

>>28017698
>nameless one
What is this Umineko lore?

>>28017696
my middle aged filled with cancer wife

>>28017696
God imagine living your entire life in the middle of nowhere with a smart cutie like Ikuko

>>28017696
How do they have sex? Tohya's dick is useless.
Is there any other way for a man to feel pleasure? ...Is there?

>>28017698
>and what can change the nature of a man
>belief

Should I bite the bullet and start reading answers arc for Higurashi? I have generally good theories about who kills Tomitake and Rika and what happens in Tatarigorishi, but am a bit confused about the specifics in Onikakushi and Watanagashi (and how Rika is able to predict stuff in Himatsubushi). Would you say I should be able to solve 1&2 with a fair bit of confidence if I just went over them a few more times? No hints / spoilers please just yes or no.

Yukari met Ikuko's daughter who is resembling her mother. That's why she lived with Tohya for many years... Oops, does that remind you of another relationship?

>>28018251
Bite the bullet, anon.

>>28018251
just read dude

>>28017176
>or in a relationship
Doubtful. They aren't married, but they are definitely a couple. They have no children because they don't like them and are too autistic to waste half of their precious time on Earth raising brats. Someone with a true passion beyond the surface level "hobbies" of normies can't afford to waste time on kids.

>>28017696
Cripples don't have sex.

>>28018662
>raising kids is for dum-dums without real goals
filtered

>>28017834
you should ask Yasu

>>28018714
But Katawa shoujo...

>>28018662
>are too autistic to waste half of their precious time on Earth raising brats.
literrally one of the best thing that can happened and you call it waste of time

so for you what must you use time?
to drug, drink,smoke, watch movies ecc..
this isnt a waste of time for you?

holy fucking shit
DAILY REMEMBER THAT WE WITH OUR TAX-MONEY WILL TAKE CARE OF THIS CHILD-LESS FAGGOT
WE WILL WASTE OUR MONEY TO CURE HIM SINCE NO PERSON WILL CARE ABOUT HIM

>>28018662
What if your passion is rori butt?

>>28018787
Katawa KINO

>>28018251
Please write up your theories and post them somewhere.

>>28018662
lowkey based

>>28018878
stop

>>28018714
Tohya pretend to be crippled.
Tohya and Ikuko same person. Read Erikantrice manifesto for truth.
Without this love it cannot be seen. Ikuko=battler this is true mistery

>>28011097
Satoko doesn't have a shower. She has a bathtub and she probably plays with toy ducks in it like a little kid, even though she's already 11. That is truly pathetic!

The same game where she wears a ridiculous fundoshi that barely covers her butt crack has an unlockable toy duck projectile weapon, so it's canon.

>>28018951
If we have never seen Satoko and a shower in the same place at the same time, is it possible Satoko is in fact a shower?

>>28011097
Do Japanese school girls ACTUALLY find it normal to go to hot springs with their female friends and see each other butt-ass-naked? I see this in every anime ever, ranging from elementary schoolers to high schoolers, from realistic anime to wacky comedy, and it's absolutely baffling. Is it an Asian thing? The mere idea of it would be mortifying for a western girl. Nobody wants her shameful hairy pussy and half-grown teenage tits exposed to girls the same age, especially if they are friends.

Also, wouldn't this lead to hardcore bullying if there's a falling out in the group of friends and they start divulging embarrassing details about the naked body of their classmate? How the fuck is it even possible for a human girl to not care about having her ass, pussy and tits seen by others?

>>28019187
Does this make lesbians more ostracized because they pervert the "normality" of female friends seeing each other completely buck-arse-naked?

>>28019300
>are gays more ostracized
Gee I wonder

>>28018877
I have an autism word doc that's super long but I summed up most of it here.
https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/529294568/#529333131

>>28019348
how else are regular girls supposed to react to the idea that they might be an object of desire even for their female classmates? that's obviously creepy, right? it's only natural that they'll signal their aversion through bullying, just like they'd bully unattractive boys who try to approach them. it's basically self-defence.

>>28019187
This is mindblowing for me as well. Rena has actually seen Satoko's naked ass.

>>28019750
>tfw Mion expected Rena to think nothing of seeing her naked, but she discovered that Rena likes girls and is probably paying close attention to her naked body and imagining her performing degrading acts
>her close friend fantasizes about her humiliation and degradation
Anyone would be creeped out by that. Probably because girls are fucking dumbasses and have this bizarre idea that seeing each other naked is no big deal because they all have the same stuff. As if humiliation wasn't the core of human existence.

>>28019750
>>28019917
Even a straight girl would be morbidly curious about how ridiculous her usually proud friend looks while taking a dump or doing something really humiliating in private. Rena can masturbate to Mion's human condition and still be straight (this is ignoring her canon pedo crush on Rika and Satoko).

>>28019750
Girls like cute and they themselves tend to be cute. Bisexuality is normal for girls. Only a normie idiot with no inner monologue would be attracted only to what nature dictates without appreciating the lewdness of a fellow girl.

>>28020039
>Rena can masturbate to Mion's human condition and still be straight
that doesn't seem like such a good idea. Rena would be disgusted with herself afterward, and project that disgust onto Mion. she would never be able to see her friend the same way again, the desire to destroy Mion's illusion of dignity, to make her recognize that she is a pathetic, inferior creature would begin to tear apart her natural, normative reproductive directive and restructure her psyche into a hyper-sexual, feral mess. and then she might really do it, she might rape Mion.

>Somehow the MANIFESTO reaches Ryukishi07
>He reads it
>New tweet appears on 07th expansion's page, pic related is one of Erikantrice memes: "Finally. After all those years someone found the true solution to the Umineko mystery. Congratulations to the western fans. I'm really proud of you. Ryu"
>Mfw

>>28020149
Girls aren't attracted to anything, they are exhibitionists by nature. They get turned on by flaunting their bodies, having males desire them and finally exposing their shameful bodies to a chad capable of humiliating and dominating them. Deep down all girls crave degradation and they are turned on by the idea of males appreciating their lewd bodies. They aren't attracted to males themselves, only to the idea of what they might be thinking of them.

>>28020344
>excerpt from: John Berger - Ways of Seeing

>>28020303
best day of my life
make another discord account and i will enjoy the tears of the backbanners.

>>28020344
>They aren't attracted to males themselves, only to the idea of what they might be thinking of them.
If that were true then girls would be equally attracted to all males.