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Hig, Umi, Ciconia, and R07 related works.

Complete 07th Expansion mega link :
https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

In the future everyone will have DID.

>> No.25629254

>>25628818
I can't believe they're all drinking simulated Chloe piss!

>> No.25629259

Any news about phase 2 ?

>> No.25629291

>>25628818
Where did gravity go?

>> No.25629610
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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

Pls help me to improve my manofesto
Of you find a grammar error , a mistake or you dont undwrstand some parts pls contact me
Only with your help my manifesto can become TRUTH

>> No.25631098
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are any of these stories canon? and are they worth the read?

>> No.25632334
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Why is he so fucking sexy?

>> No.25633123

>>25631098
They're at least not part of the original canon, but what does it matter.
I heard some of them are pretty good. And they still make up their own ps3 canon.

>> No.25633498

>>25631098
Taraimawashi - short chapter where Keiichi doesn't do anything at all; similar to Watanagashi
Tsukiotoshi - everyone goes fucking insane; similar to Tatarigoroshi
Someutsushi+Kageboushi: Was a good story.
Yoigoshi: happens around 30 years after the events of Tsumihoroboshi but where Rena killed everyone

I recommend Tsukiotoshi and Someutsushi/Kageboushi.

>> No.25633537

>>25633498
Nice. Does Rena survive in Yoigoshi?

>> No.25633544

>>25633537
lmao no

>> No.25633657

>>25633544
What a goddamn shame.
Then it's basically just the Tsuimihoroboshi epilogue or what?

>> No.25633741

>>25633657
It's a separate story that happens in the future but references the events of the school massacre and the GHD.

>> No.25633910

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX3L-gs4MPs
I've been really liking this one.

>> No.25634694

>>25633123
Is the prose Ryuukishi-esque? I can't read Higurashi without his unique writing style, which is similar to chess or shogi.

>> No.25634775

yasu was so fucking petty and disgusting and its amazing how many people sympathize or admire him

>> No.25634888

>>25634775
>petty
For example?

>> No.25634955

>>25634888
are you serious anon

>> No.25635080

>>25634955
Yeah, I can't recall them ever being "petty". What do you mean?

>> No.25635170

>>25635080
>them
anon.......

>> No.25635415

>that tip where Rena literally sees an ayy in the middle of the road
Lmao

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>>25635080
>>25635170
Inb4 some SJW larping to shit up the thread until it gets closed like last one.

>> No.25635481

>>25635415
It's Hanyuu no?

>> No.25635495

So where did Meijiu find the little chinklet and what strings did he pull to essentially adopt the lolee?

>> No.25635515

>>25635481
I don think so, she described a stereotypical ayy lmao.

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>>25635515

>> No.25635799
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Happy birthday Rika!!!

>> No.25636106

>>25635515
Just like how Shion interpreted AuAu as Satoshi Rena interpreted her as an ayy

>> No.25636120

>>25635799
I wonder, has Rika ever stopped giving enough of a fuck to where she didn't even try to hide her drinking problem any more? Is there a fragment where Satoko unexpectedly comes home early, only to find a completely shitfaced Rika waiting for her? Did Rika try to make excuses for herself, did she try to hide what was going on, knowing that Satoko doesn't know what being drunk looks like? Did she maybe even try to get Satoko drunk, giving her self-destructive impulses an external target, driven by a sick desire to break the person she cares about most? questions.

>> No.25636239

>>25636120
It's implied Rika went the complete Groundhog Day experience since there were times she suicides.

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>>25636120
She describes Satoko as cute multiple times, so maybe there was a world in which... you know...

>> No.25636548

>>25636120
Rika admitted to being a drunktard in Minagoroshi.

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Weird question.
What is the reasoning behind Lambdadelta having astronomy powers motif?
Is it just manga fluff or is it supported in the VN?

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>>25637035
Missed the get I wasn't aiming for by 1 digit fuck you Lambda!
Whats with the ransengans anyway?

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>>25637035
Pretty sure it's based on a couple lines like this.

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>>25637035
>>25637112

>> No.25637239

>>25637112
>>25637141
But those are just sort of references between their clashes some kind of hindu references not specifically implying Lambdadelta is creating those and Bern erasing them unless the flow of the battle was specifically Lambdadelta striking first and Bern would reply back, that would induce the idea that Lambdadelta creates and Bern destroys.

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https://youtu.be/4y8vp5z-Ntc

>The beginning of the end? You're behind the times. Once it's begun, it already has ended.

Reminder that this is actually footage of Toujirou stopping their God's plan and ((((((((their)))))) coming to the earth.

TOMITAKE FLASH

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SHKANON FAGS I AM CHALLENGING YOU

If Erika is not Beatrice and Bernkastler her pawn WHY BERNKASTLE'S RED TRUTHS ARE VALID MEANWHILE VIRGILIA'S RED TRUTH (NATSUHI IS NLT THE CULPRIT) NOT? (both witch)

Virgilia red truth was a hint for Battler
If only witch can say red truth without proofs why mine isnt valid?

This mean that Bern's red truths are supported by proof provide by Erika
So if Erika know for sure that Krauss died after the call then she was present during his dwath so she is the culprit!!!!

>> No.25637303

>>25637239
Lambda and Bern are basically anime reskins of Apollo and Dionysius / Aneris and Eris.

>> No.25637320

>>25637255
Rare Ciconia footage.

>> No.25637324

>>25637255
Ah, so THAT'S what Tomitake was doing during the Vespio story in TRT

>> No.25637438

>>25637303
>Apollo and Dionysius / Aneris and Eris
What? There should be other archetypes to compare them instead of these that don't make much sense.

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Delicious Rena tummy.

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>>25637255
>boku wa, tomitake. furee no cameraman
kek

>> No.25637803

>>25637255
Doesn't that line confirm it's a matrix world? Ciconia is a story about the time leading to WW4, but once the story begins it's already ended because it's a simulation after the real world got fucked.

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>>25637255
Dem Niggas No Naku Koro Ni

>> No.25637908

>>25637255
>innocent military man
>fat incel
>bully and humiliator
>mafia boss
>cultist trying to destroy the world
Tomitake just gets more evil every time. Okonogi fluctuates between piece of shit and decent guy. Takano stays consistently chaotic with a hint of evil.

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>>25637803
Interesting way of looking at it, this may be the case actually. Or maybe it's just a reference to the concept of mortality/ephemeral stuff that the lab guys managed to escape, since time doesn't even affect them anymore. So many questions
>>25637908
>fat incel
why did it need this post for me to realize it HOLY SHIT

>> No.25637974

>>25637908
Isn't Tomitake supposed to be Ryukishi's self insert character? What does that say about him?

>> No.25638082
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>>25637255
What a chad

>> No.25638308

>>25637955
>>25637974
Tomitake looks a lot like him. And it's a dude with a silly R07 hat taking pictures of Hinamizawa. I can totally imagine Ryu back then, with his trademark hat and a camera, taking pictures of Shirakawa-go to use as backgrounds for Onikakushi.

George looks a lot like Tomitake and Ryuukishi. He wears a TOMITAKEFLASH shirt during his date with Shannon, and also dog tags on his neck (a reference to Tomitake being in the military). And both of them are slightly out of shape beta males who get killed by their waifu who happens to be the culprit, without them suspecting anything until the last moment. Hell, the scene in the Confession manga where Yasu tells George the truth and shoots him in Natsuhi's bedroom is suspiciously similar to the scene where Takano confesses her plan to Tomitake and proceeds to have him killed. Both scenes show the guy in utter disbelief at what his waifu is saying before being shot/pinned down.

George is the Tomitake expy.

>> No.25638403

>>25637908
Tomita expy wasn't a bully, he was just mad and had an insatiable thirst for revenge. He accidentally turned the girl into a humiliatee and the other bullies did the rest, it wasn't his fault! He just made her a target.

>> No.25638455

>>25638308
Ryuukishi changed his hat at some point after Umineko. His current hat is less like a green Tomitake beret and more like the grey ones worn by mafia goons in RGD.

The funny thing is that he's never cosplaying his own character, he actually wears this hipster hat everywhere.

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Made this, how accurate is it

>> No.25638569
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>>25638540
You forgot this cutie here!

>> No.25638615

>>25638540
I definitely wouldn't talk to this nutcase or any of her delusions.

>> No.25638657

>>25638540
Why is Lion so fuckable?

>> No.25638727

>>25638540
Fake like a shit
Remove shannon and gaap and put Erika and Ikuko

>> No.25638853

>>25638569
Based

>> No.25639019

I laughed so hard when that fucking chink Wang got all his fucking onions sauce storehouses burned behind his back.

>> No.25639321

>>25638540
What I don't get is, how was a relationship between Jessica and "Kanon" even possible?
Jessica knew Yasu since they were children. She thought he was a girl, which would make Jessica a lesbian I suppose?
But most importantly, Jessica knew about Yasu's relationship with George. She is not a man stealing slut! What the hell?

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>>25639019
Honored brother deserved it

>> No.25641219
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>>25637718
H-how am I supposed to see this version of Satoko as a KID? I mean, just look at those thighs, look at the fucking hips. Jesus.

>> No.25641327

>>25637718
peak fucking sex jesus christ

>> No.25641338

>>25641219
She's not a kid kid. She's like 11. If you've ever seen one, you know they have shapely bodies even when they are flat.

>> No.25641372

>>25641219
>>25641338
They are just slightly chubby this is why they look like this. Maybe Satoko looks fatter with realism and not anime utopian filter.

>> No.25641430

>>25641338
this feels more like the body of a 13-14 year old to me. I could see Shion's character design having a similar build (with bigger tits and smaller facial features ofc).

>> No.25641607

>>25641338
Why would I ever look at an arse-having creature? Of course I've never seen one! Their mere existence is cringe! No matter how cute they are!

>> No.25641821

Why do Alan and Kyrie kinda look like badass cops even though they're criminals?

>> No.25641844

>>25641821
Also, is Kyrie even in contact with her family or did she clean her hands off the yakuza?

>> No.25641931

>>25639019
I liked Wang. He's a scheming bastard, but he's also loyal and likes hot girls.

>> No.25642005

>>25632334
Aphrodisiacs in the car AC

>> No.25642096

>>25639321
In the anti-fantasy canon, is there a single proof of the fact that Jessica loves Yasu ?
Could be a delusion of a loving Yasu told as a two-sided love

>> No.25642212

>>25632334
Best male character in the kakeraverse along with Meijiu and Richard. Such a charming, cool, deep and funny character. Ooishi is perfect.

Ryuukishi excels at writing women, but when he does a good male character it's really fucking good. The rest are often very likeable too, with only a couple lacking development such as Hideyoshi.

Come to think of it, Higurashi and especially RGD have really damn solid casts of characters. Not a single one feels pointless, they are relatively small in number and you end up feeling for them rather than being interested in seeing their misfortune. I can't name a single character I dislike or don't care for.

>> No.25642215

>>25634775
It's easy to sympathize with her struggles, I don't think anyone sane "admires" her though. She was a pitiful person.

>> No.25642350

>>25642212
>no Wayne
>no Batora
>no Kanon

>> No.25642664

How hard is it to modify a VN to clean up typos, add my own text to lengthen or improve my favorite scenes or even bring my fanfiction to life?

>> No.25642692

>>25637289
I'm wondering when someone put a seal on Natsuhi's room. It was mentioned but it's unclear what happened with it.

>> No.25642732

>>25642692
>I'm wondering when someone put a seal on Natsuhi's room.
Literally everyone was in on itthe, except Natsuhi. Imagine.

>> No.25642816

>>25642215
yasu queen slay

literally

>> No.25642881

>>25642692
Genji after tell to her about 19th's man call
He is an accomplice of erika

>> No.25643012

>>25642664
Depends which vn and engine.
Umineko steam for instance uses ponscripter which is easy to use and the script file isn't protected.
Pic related is an anon showing how you can do basic edits for screenshots, but it'd work just the same for fixing what's there or making your own shit.
I haven't looked at Higurashi, but I think the script files isn't unprotected like Umineko's, so it'd be using one of the other methods detailed here: https://sekaiproject.github.io/ponscripter-fork/doc/rn01re01.html

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>>25643012
forgot to attach the actual fucking pic

>> No.25643060
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>>25636120
Happy birthday Rika, lady of all my love

>> No.25643188

>>25643012
I want to make something as ambitious as Witches and Woodlands but for RGD and maybe Ciconia.

>> No.25643218
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They want us to masturbate over Satoko so bad they even put a grown up version of her on Kira with like five seconds of screentime just so that even the people that don't like lolis can enjoy her. Higurashi is a fucking masterpiece.

>> No.25643253

>>25643188
How would the fight scenes even work? I doubt there's any way to make your own or choose the weapons or the characters.

>> No.25643270

>>25643218
Why can't those people enjoy lolis? I enjoy both equally!

>> No.25643618

>>25642881
It was used to form the Red truth 'a living Kinzo could not exist outside of Natsuhi's room'. Guess who went to her room in the morning.

>> No.25643694

>>25643618
If you know rhat Kinzo is death you can form any read truth
Also thw red truth Kinzo do not exist in the forest is impossible since no one can check it all

>> No.25643721
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>>25637035
>manga fluff
The whole manga is fluff.

>> No.25643745

>>25643721
>you just got . . . pranked bro

>> No.25643793
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Battler Blanco

Jorge Gordo

Beatriz Dorada

El hecho de que Angelica tiene un culo es simplemente increible! Ella es tan hermosa y ruda! Sin embargo! A pesar de ello! Ella tiene un culo! Patetico! Humillante! Perverso! La condicion humana de Angelica Ushiromiya!

Satoko Puberta

Hanyuu Fantasma

Leonardo Mamadisimo

Ricardo Punido

Bernarda Modo Gato

>> No.25643823

>>25643793
Kanon tomboyo

>> No.25643871

>>25643721
who's the satoko of ciconia?

>> No.25643918
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Okamura's fat got nerfed in the anime now he's kinda handsome

>> No.25643969

>>25643188
You can do the same with those, you just need onscripter tools to decode the scripts. Just drag pscript.dat(ciconia) or nscript.dat(RGD) onto nscdec.exe and the script will be in result.txt. And was wrong about Higurashi, the scripts are in plain text files in StreamingAssets\Scripts\.

That's for making changes and fixing things, but for making something akin to W&W, it'd be best to just start from scratch and just copy what you need from the scripts to get things running. You don't want tons of files that you won't use or have menus leading to irrelevant things like TIPS, a japanese option, and what not. It's easy to learn and you can figure out how things work just by looking through the script and following along ingame. For anything else just read the official documentation.

>> No.25644077

>>25637718
And now, the Higurashi trivia fact of the day: Did you know that Satoshi ran away from home because it wasn't safe for him to stay around his sister anymore? That's right, she was just becoming too erotic. This is the real reason Shion hates Satoko: she knows that she can't compete! After her pride is broken in Meakashi, Shion finally accepts her natural role as the cucked servant of the superior female.

Thank you for reading.

>> No.25644146

>>25643793
>>25643823
>Poesía sin fin

Rika Pequenita

Yasu Sayo sin pene

Mayordomos forma de El Cabrons.

>> No.25644211
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25644211

needs bigger tits

>> No.25645012

>>25644077
Satoko is superior, but she's lacking a hairy pussy and that alone means Shion is better.

>> No.25645618

>>25637289
IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER IF ERIKA IS YASU OR NOT, THE CULPRITS OF THE GAMES WON'T CHANGE, LEAVE GEORGE ALONE.

>> No.25645629

>>25644211
Fuck I love Chloe

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>>25628818
Shion's now bigger than her sister somehow. Must be the diet.

>> No.25645835

>>25645618

George change
NO MLRE EVERYOME IS THE CULPRIT sInce Erika Is thE dwtectice and Cant kill people

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A novice drawanon here, the new PV made me horny for Shion so I drew her

>> No.25646541

>>25644211
Chloe's design is far too good. I hope we get to see more of her.

>> No.25646725
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happy birthday rika~!

>> No.25646737

>>25646725
I can hear the eyes blinking.

>> No.25646832

>>25646461
BASED

>> No.25646989

how would you rate the higurashis from hornies to least horny?

>> No.25647727

https://twitter.com/gaoubabel/status/1296809604358135808

>> No.25648167

>>25644077
>Satoko
>superior female
She's LITERALLY an unfinished human.

>> No.25648260

>>25648167
Yes.

>> No.25648853

If Gunhild is a super high ranking officer... does she have her own secondary secretaries?

>> No.25650480

shion school bullying ange to suicide at st. lucia and forgetting she existed a few months later

>> No.25650653

>>25650480
Ange's life amounted to nothing. Her existence on this Earth will only be remembered 20 years later when the humiliating bullying and forced stripping videos that caused her suicide make it into the internet. And even then, whoever watches the videos will just fap to her humiliation, cum when Ange begs for mercy as a bully sticks an empty bottle up her sweaty ass, and completely forget about her the next day. That's Ange's legacy. Several videos that make you cringe from excess humiliation.

>> No.25651408

>>25646461
godlike

>> No.25652266

>>25646461
Nice to see some art like this. Thank you anon.

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>>25646832
>>25651408
>>25652266
Thanks yall, really appreciate it, yknow when I first played Higurashi I couldn't understand why everyone had giant tits, but after I started drawing I finally understood everything, Ryukishi,s big titted 15 years are too good for this earth

>> No.25653072

>>25653045
Year olds, I meant to say 15 year olds

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>>25653045
keep fighting the good fight

>> No.25655570

Did you ever cry while playing When They Cry games? If so, what parts?

>> No.25656021

>>25655570
only the episode 8 manga got to me

>> No.25656034

>>25656021
For umineko I should add

>> No.25656151

>>25656034
>>25656021
magic ending for episode 8 in the vn for me

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>>25655570
Several times, in Higurashi I remember I cried a little bit in the third, sixth and seventh arc, well maybe not crying, but my eyes got teary. That said I cried like a baby on Matsuribayashi, that, especially on the credits, that song is just so beautiful.
https://youtu.be/AHVwZ13jMHQ
I also cried a little bit on the magic ending of Umineko, mainly because the last scene with the music and all was so beautiful, but being honest here it felt a little bit undeserving.

>> No.25656329

>>25655570
https://youtu.be/UFyzTtKNzYI?t=232

>> No.25656401

>>25655570
I know I have, but I can't specifically place the moments that I cried even though I can with other vn titles...

>> No.25656404

>>25585068
one thing I think you notice a lot in hindsight is that in episode 1 and 2, there is a lot of self-hatred built around any scene involving shannon and kanon (especially in episode 2). you get that a lot less in tohya's eps.

>> No.25656443

>>25656404
also tohya's eps are the first to start to incorporate elements of what happened in the real world

>> No.25656660
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>>25655570
the end of meakashi where it shows shion and satoko being happy is what broke me

>> No.25657488

>>25645835
Erika can't kill people but Yasu can and did, so it still doesn't matter even if they are the same person.

>> No.25657501

>>25641338
>Age: X

>> No.25657732

Did Lambdadelta take part in Hanyuu's game against Rika ?
There are a lot of similarities between the scene where Oishi chooses to help the gang despite the risks in Matsuribayashi and Lambda accepting to help the pieces of the game board in EP8 of Umineko. Could be a "ah yes this is the same situation as back then. That story was good, I should accept" moment from her.
She might have been allowed to control a few pieces in some iterations of Higurashi

>> No.25657793

>>25657732
she wasn't directly involved, but she did have some interaction with takano previously

>> No.25657868

>>25657488
Detective is a person
Person=body
so yasu cant kill too

>> No.25657892

>>25657732
Witches don't exist brainlet.

>> No.25658469

>>25657868
Erika literally killed people in episode 6, and didn't even exist before episode 5, the crime can't be solved with clues that aren't presented.
Person =/= Body is one of the core parts of the witches' game.

>> No.25658592

currently thinking anout and ranking which wtc characters would be best in bed

>> No.25658614

>>25657732
>Hanyuu's game
Hi brainlet, what wiki did you crawl out of? Go back there.

>> No.25658629

>>25658469
Lambda confirm that the exception about Detective is not the culprit is valid only in ep5

A witch is the rapresentation of the rules is Battler wanted resyrrect Beatrice then he put again this exception (without tell it to Erika)

>> No.25658648

>>25657732
Hanyuu isn't a game master, she's like weapons grade furniture at most if you want to tie it into Umineko stuff.

>> No.25658697

>>25658469
Person = Body is confirmed with the red truth

>> No.25658938
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name a more chad moment

>> No.25659108

>>25658938
The first tea party
I cant forget this scene forever

Literrally this chad first BTFO magic fag about stop thinking then deny a witch in front his eyes

Too chad for this world

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>>25658938

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>>25655570
Several times during Umineko, of course the most notable one is the magic ending, but I also have to mention the halloween party and Maria's backstory.

>> No.25659473

>>25655570
Saikoroshi made me cry for real. The scene when Rika was eating all alone while watching her friends eating together without her, and especially Rena coming up to Rika to exchange a part of her lunch with somes from Rika really triggers me. ;_; I hated this chapter for a good while.

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According to my calculations, the ship most likely to generate tw*tt*r tranny butthurt is George/Maria. They already hate George + it's hetero + underage + incest.

>>25638308
When Ryukishi wants to reuse a character, he makes it very explicit (Battler/Butler, Tomitake/Mitake, Rike/Bern). The shirt is just a reference.

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>>25638657
Lion is androgynous, but in a hot way unlike Yasu. Maybe it's his "perfect rich boy" attitude.
>>25639321
Jessica knew Kanon is Shannon and was just pretending not to know, she doesn't care about George. Or she's dumber than Krauss, which is possible.
Either way, I guess this is the reason that Kanon kept rejecting Jessica's advances - not because Yasu was LARPing his emo persona, but because of George.

>> No.25659586

>>25659484
george is literally a carbon copy of tomitake, you bleeding idiot

>> No.25659918
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That's right, children of man.
This is liberation!

>> No.25659958

>>25658592
Erika would be very fun.

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>>25655570
>Welcome home, Battler

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Who is your favorite bro character?
For me it's Bronove. (Brooishi comes close second)

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>>25643218
Imagine needing a grown up Satoko.

>> No.25660252

>>25660030
Ronove doesn't get enough screen time to surpass Ooishi.
>>25660239
Those hips are grown up.

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>>25653045
Where are her tits?!

>> No.25660493

>>25659567
>Lion is androgynous, but in a hot way unlike Yasu
Everyone still thought he was female, with George even proposing to him.
It doesn't make sense for Jessica to butt into their relationship unless she is a really thirsty lesbian.

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>>25660493
>Everyone still thought he was female
Yes, and everyone thought Kanon was a different person. What's your point?

>> No.25661434

>>25660493
Yasu is a woman
Kinzo is afraid of commit the same sin again
What is this sin?
Impregnate his daugther
If yasu is a male he would have no fear to commit it again since a MAN could not become like Beatrice + he is not gay

And even if he is gay a male cant get pregrant

>> No.25661694

>>25661434
>And even if he is gay a male cant get pregrant
I'm gonna try to impregnate Lion and report back.

>> No.25661779

>>25661694
thats a team effort anon

>> No.25661831

>>25661694
Waste of time
She is a cute Tomboy but sadly be an incest monster ruin her woman body

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25661895

Is it just me or Ciconia was really hard to go through? They were too much information at once. Phase 1 feels too compacted.
I nonetheless like it.

>> No.25661924

>>25658697
I highly doubt that, I'm not seeing that on the list of red truths, please post a screenshot or a timestamp.

>> No.25662138

>>25657501
Her age is X in police records from a few years ago, dummy. She's in the double digits by 1983.

>> No.25662237

>>25661895
ciconia was awful lmao

>> No.25662262

>>25657732
Higurashi wasn't a game like Umineko. They call it a game, but it was just Lambda creating a certain fate for Takano and fucking off. Rika/Hanyuu accidentally made a game out of it because they tried to break that fate, but Lambda was completely uninvolved until Bern showed up and fucked up her certainty by messing with the last fragment.

It wasn't a proper game between two opponents, let alone a meta fight.

>> No.25662371

>>25662138
Satoko turns 12 after the 1983 festival.

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>>25661924
I think they misunderstood this red from Beatrice/Erika Duel in EP6.

>> No.25662803

>>25643694
No, the actual problem is they cannot check all rooms at the same time. Kinzo could have hidden in a room which was searched before. Erika didn't realized that until EP6, a 'logic switch'.

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>>25657732
Lambdadelta did take part on Hanyuu game because Miyo Takano wanted to become a god. So in a sense Lambdadelta gave some pushing power to Miyo Takano for her plans but was not personal against Rika.
Humans pull witches to them even if witches mention they choose their mikos because witches still have to make sure you have the criteria but before that humans lure witches with their intentions, just like Miyo Takano did by willing to turn into a god and strong willpower, create sort of a broadcasting effect Lambdadelta felt and got attracted to.

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>>25655570
This was the first big cry for me, it was just such an excellent use of red. And of course I cried throughout Episode 8 as well but this one hit me like a truck

>> No.25663017

>>25661831
>>25661694
>>25661434
What kind of mandela effect is this? So Yasu Sayo a male or not?

>> No.25663192

>>25660314
On her chest

>> No.25663276

Bern's developing young chest>Satako's pathetic buds

>> No.25663345

>>25661895
That's the point. Phase 1 is almost entirely made of propaganda meant to confuse you.

>> No.25663466

>>25662803
Yes but Yasu lnow that Kinzo is death so he can create any types of red truths about him

>> No.25663468

>>25663017
Yasu is clearly male, don't let speedreaders tell you otherwise.

>> No.25663602

>>25663468
Yasu is female
Fuck off spead reader
KINZO IS AFRAID OF COMMIT THE SAME SIN AGAIN
YOU CANT IMPREGNATE A MALE

>> No.25663620

>>25663602
cant blame kinzo for wanting that twinks boypussy

>> No.25663665

>>25663620
Kinzo is not gay
If he was gay then he would marry Genji

>> No.25663703

>>25663665
genji aint no blond twink

>> No.25663731

>>25663703
Even Yasu is not Blond

>> No.25663734

>>25663602
Proof of that? Maybe the sin is just literally sexually exploit a mutilated male? Or do you think thats ok and not a sin?

>> No.25663791

>>25663734
According with your theory yasu got mutilated after Nastuhi push

Kinzo give the baby to Natsuhi because he was afraid of commit the same sin again
So is not your sin but Fuck and Impregnate her daugther

Reread ep7

>> No.25663840

>>25663602
I'd say fucking your own relative counts as a sin so that's not an argument. You do realize he fucked his own daughter because she resembled Beatrice? Fucking some male that resembled her is not even worse than that, and Kinzo understands magic so he can just be delusional about it and pretend it's her reincarnation or some shit.

>> No.25663880

>>25663840
YASU IS A LIVING SIN

A WALKING SIN
THIS IS WHAT KINZO WANTED TO STOP

A MALE YASU CANT GET PREGNANT AND MAKE BORN ANOTHER SIN

>> No.25663908

>>25663791
You can't prove Kinzo knew the gender of the baby, maybe grandpa was so scared of doing a repeat that he didn't even check and just gave him away as soon as possible.

>> No.25663938

>>25663880
If Yasu could get pregnant he would live happily with George instead of bringing everybody to the Golden Land. He's a living sin because he's the child born from incest.

>> No.25663981

>>25663908
The proof about he knew the gender is about he is afraid of commit again the sin

Kinzo give the baby to Natsuhi after Beatrice 2 death
So he interact with Yasu for mounths before give him to adoption
Is impossible in all that time never discover the sex

He give Yasu to adoption, he told to natsubi to raise him as a man all of that to avoid another SIN but the destiny was too cruel

>> No.25664028

>>25663981
You can't really prove it's impossible. Also if really was so afraid he wouldn't give him to adoption to someone who literally lives in his same fucking house, he wanted him to be his heir.

>> No.25664056

>>25663938
Yasu is a woman so technically she can get pregnant
What Kinzo didnt knew is that be an incest monster ruin her woman body

Incest children have many problems 1 of them is absence of puberty
A fake woman
This is why create Kanon personality
For Battler a woman is a blond big tits with a tomboy personality onstead her was dark haired, small tits depressed girl not a real woman for her
So after she start to think to be a male

>> No.25664119

>>25664028
He is her Father
He loved her like he loved her motber and grandmother but he know what he did

So make him become a male and create the respect-fear between family members and him was the only solution to make Yasu raise near him

>> No.25664181

So Yasu is actually a reverse-Satoko (that is overdeveloped) female that kinzo was afraid to rape to have an other deformed monster out of incest?

>> No.25664253

>>25664181
Yes but Kinzo was afraid to rape because he was really sad about what he did

He knew that Rape your own daugther is wrong

>> No.25664372

>>25661895
I see a lot of people say that but I think it was easy to read and had a good pacing

>> No.25664375

>>25664181
dont listen to the esl autist hes also the one that spams his retarded erika manifesto in not only every thread here but every umi/hig thread he finds on any 4chan board

>> No.25664392

>>25664253
Can you notice all that on the manga or I have to go back to the novel? For some reason Yasu being an underdeveloped female makes more sense to me due to what happened psychologically in the story.

>> No.25664420

>>25664372
Actually felt Ciconia was an easy read doesn't mean the story was obvious from the start but I didn't feel the need to reread the story because I missed details to understand anon theories.

>>25664392
>>25664375
This is why I didn't want to quote anyone and ask everyone else I just want some enlightenment here.

>> No.25664463

>>25664392
>manga
Holy fucking shit
Go to read the VN now

>> No.25664488

>>25664375
Why you so mad about facts and logic?
Why Kinzo is afraid of make pregnant a male?
He is stupid?

>> No.25664502

Lion is a MALE with a DICK and I would suck them off in a boys locker room in high school if given the chance.

>> No.25664545

>>25664502
LION is a girl with a VAGINA and i would hug her since she is a cute tomboy

>> No.25664569

>>25664502
Based

>> No.25664596

>>25664488
hes afraid of fucking another descendant of beatrice even after how much regret and pain he felt after beatrice 2.0 died
lion being male just shows how fucked kinzo is for still believing him another version of beatrice even if it was for just a moment

>> No.25664663

>>25664596
Kinzo is not gay
He wpuld be happy if Yasu was a male since there was no danger but he is afraid so Yasu is a woman

>> No.25664699

>>25664663
show me in red where its said kinzo wouldnt fuck prime cute boys

>> No.25664734

>>25664699
Because he choice to not fuck Genji , when he was young, who loved him

If you refuse the hottest male you are not gay

>> No.25664761

>>25664734
cute boys>hot males

>> No.25664805

There's no definitive proof that Satoko has an arse and I will never just believe it.

>> No.25664807

>>25664761
Kinzo fuck Beatrice 2 when he grew up not when she was a baby
So Kinzo must have no fear to fuck a male Yasu since he would never look like Beatrice when he grew up

>> No.25664816

>>25664463
But Ryukishi said the manga was canon? I am not saying it will replace the novel but maybe the manga also gives details like that can be seen literally from drawings and I am not talking about Yasu gender for this of course.

>> No.25664883

>>25664816
Lambda during episode 5 confirm that Natsuhi culprit is canon
Why?

Because a truth that cant be found has no rigth of be called truth
People stop thinking and accept this lie as truth so R07 was forced to confirm that Natsuhi is the culprit with the Manga

>> No.25664900

>>25664807
whether or not lion would resemble the original beatrice doesnt matter since the man is clearly sick in the head and can just as easily justify it with magic shit

>> No.25664938

>>25664883
How does she confirm it? Its based on the conspiracy theories right?
How was he forced to confirm like forcing an headcanon as the solution? Don't think he would do this to his pride.

>> No.25665005

>>25664900
Why je was afraid to commit the same sin when he was a baby?

He is male all ushiromiya male are handsome rudolf,krauss ,george and Battler no ome of them look femine

So if Yasu was a male Kinzo must be afraid after he grew up not after born

So yasu must be a woman

>> No.25665026

>>25664938
He respect what he wrote in the VN
Mystery is a lpve story between reader and writer

We betrayl him by stop thinking so he act like Lambda and Beatrice act on umineko

>> No.25665059

lion and miyao frotting

>> No.25665251

>>25660030
Hideyoshi even though he has 4 lines. Ronove is close second

>> No.25665773

>>25665005
>what subjects are tough for lion at school?
>“Lion: I like most subjects, but probably the one I like least is English. It seems my pronunciation is too native - my classmates laughed at me, which was a little uncomfortable. I’m also skilled at cooking. Gender equality, after all. I think that regardless of gender, one should be able to stand in the kitchen.”

>> No.25665776

>>25664805
It's implied.

>> No.25665779

Miyao is more attractive than Lion.

>> No.25665811

>>25660030
Cyrus. He's the ultimate bro and even makes better tea than Ronove. His suit is snazzy as well.

>> No.25665858

>>25665005
>He is male all ushiromiya male are handsome rudolf,krauss ,george and Battler no ome of them look femine
The girlyboy gene is definitely on the Beatrice side of the family so his femininity is normal.

>> No.25665874

>>25665858
damn blond italians

>> No.25666069

>be a pathetic lady of the evening
>a successful man falls for you and wants to take you on a trip to the Bahamas
>there's this annoying underage coworker with a shitty accent who still hasn't even done anal and yet she's been promoted to become the madam's confidant
>turns out the whorehouse you were hired at is the heart of the biggest mafia in the city
>they are after your boyfriend's life
>this underage cunt has been spying on your phone calls and found out where his hideout is
>she's part of a fucking gang tied to the mafia, that fucking shitty brat
>stuff happens and your life goes down the shitter
Imagine.

>> No.25666151

Did we figure out what arcs the Higurashi anime will cover?

>> No.25666227

>>25666151
It will cover Satoko's unmentionables, that alone makes it disappointing. There are anime for children like Doraemon that show nipples, slit and ass every few episodes, so why can't an extremely violent anime get away with that when it's not even meant to be erotic? Even fucking Goku is naked multiple times.

I don't get why the old anime took the trouble of having Satoko go back to her house to put on clothes, despite being all burned and out of breath.

>> No.25666249

>>25665874
Italy actually has some very high quality traps but they are rare. Blonde hair is pretty darn common desu, though it's not the majority.

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Is this what you fear in phase 2?

>> No.25666262

>>25665773
Literrally every clichè women who fake to be male
>>25665858
Proof
How many castiglioni have seen Kinzo?

>> No.25666277

>>25666069
Joke's on Nina. Then other slut gets to become a spirit, while she's stuck as an alive human girl with an arse who sells her dignity for money.

>> No.25666609

I want to poison Erikanon with arsenic.

>> No.25666622

>>25666609
>arse

>> No.25666629

>>25666609
Put cyanide in his spaghetti meatballs

>> No.25666720

>>25666609
>no small bomb in the food
Shkanon fags are pathetic

>> No.25666776

>>25666277
It's weird to see her in serious scenes, knowing she probably moaned like a bitch the previous night, got her hairy teen pussy licked by an unattractive faceless old man, talked dirty and sucked a dick like a semi-pro before getting cum all over her face. She's selling her dignity because she needs to eat, not because she's greedy or lewd. Pathetic!

>> No.25666860

>>25666609
Hot

>> No.25666939

>>25666069
>underage prostitute
How is she not the most popular in the club? Is she really that fucking bad at her job? Does she refuse to take on any customers who ask for kinky shit? Or is she only a lady of the night for convenience and actually hates it? This isn't a job you can half-ass, you gotta put the whole ass on the line.

>> No.25667165

>>25666939
I'd feel bad about making Nina suck my dick for money desu. She just isn't disingenuous or fucked up enough so it seems wrong somehow.
The relationship between prostitutes and their customers should either be one of professionalism and thinly veiled mutual contempt or "who gives a shit" type indifference.

>> No.25667195

>>25666939
The Onigafuchi accent immediately makes people think she's a demon creep who eats canned human meat. I wouldn't let Mion suck my dick either.

>> No.25667334

>>25666939
>How is she not the most popular in the club?
Meryl exists. She's a shortstack with a good personality, experience, a huge but properly groomed bush and big bazoongas. Short girls tend to have big asses as well. She's also clean and keeps her house neat and tidy.

How can an uneducated orphan rat who spent half her life sleeping on piles of trash even compare? She's probably used to wiping her ass with leaves and muddy newspapers, lmao.

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imagine Mion sucking Keiichi's fur seal in a hidden spot behind the school and then saying something like "D-don't misunderstand. This old man is just helping you out. Boys do this kind of thing for each other all the time, so there's nothing weird about it, okay?" before running away.

>> No.25667506

>>25667165
>it seems wrong somehow
Isn't the whole point of prostitution seeing a human girl stripped of her dignity, forced to abandon her pride out of necessity? That's why a good-looking guy like Batora keeps coming back to these wretched whores. He wants to see a cute human girl reduced to a sweaty naked animal, especially if she's young and not fully corrupted. I bet Nina has that loli appeal and her pigtails remind him of Ange. Batora is a siscon in all realities.

>> No.25667615

>>25667165
Would you rather let her starve to death or get kidnapped by a sick fuck while she sleeps out in the streets? She's got no useful skills whatsoever and is afraid of guns. If you want the best for her, better slap that pretty face and make her choke on your dick while tears roll down her cheeks. In times of need, a young girl can only rely on her body to survive, especially if she's an ignorant hobo with no talents.

>> No.25667627

>>25667472
1>3>2=4
>Boys do this kind of thing for each other all the time
That's what Jayden wants you to believe.

>> No.25667653

>>25667615
that seems to be how she gets most of her customers. they care about her and want her to live a good life, but they feel bad about actually doing anything with her.

>> No.25667663

>>25667472
>people actually unironically not figuratively but literally for real not as a joke use anything but og spites

>> No.25667686

>>25667472
>n-no hetero

>> No.25667729

>>25667506
>loli appeal
Maybe, but this is the 40s. She must have a massive bush, which is hot but kinda defeats the purpose of pretending you're fucking a loli.

>>25667615
You could always give her money and a roof without forcing her to be your girlfriend. But only a fucking cuck would do that.

>> No.25667753

>>25667334
I actually love the fact that girls are forced to wipe their asses despite being so pretty. Humans are so shameful, how laughable!

>> No.25667816

>>25666776
>not because she's greedy or lewd
Stella is both of those. She had an exemplary education and learned several languages, but she decided to pursue the prostitute lifestyle after the war. I admire characters who live life however they want to.

>> No.25668031

>>25667615
Pretty sure RGD Season 4 spoilers Zel took her friends to Chile with her dad when everything went crashing down. Nina is probably not a prostitute anymore, but she awakened to the beauty of naked females when a customer offered her good money to do a threesome with the madam. I bet she and Zel have sex sometimes. And every time she see Zel's tattoo and stretched open anus, she's glad she abandoned that lifestyle before Primavera got pushy and made her literally work her ass off.

>> No.25668043

>>25667816
I don't think Stella's all that lewd, really. She enjoys flirting and playing the part of a lecherous, debauched lady of the night, but it's a carefully controlled performance. This is the deeper appeal of Stella, knowing she knows you know that it's all just a pretense, and yet you still can't help but be swept away by the act. Or maybe that's also just you playing along. It's genuine in its artificiality.

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Haworthia is mega cute and I hope she, or at least her design, get to actually appear in Ciconia. Maybe she'll be the protagonist of the obligatory chapters that take place X years after the main plot.

>> No.25668068

>>25667816
I mean, getting paid for fucking. What a dream job.

>> No.25668099

>>25667753
>>25667729
>>25667653
>>25667615
>>25667506
>>25667816
I don't mind humiliation anon but this level of samefagging is really too much.

>> No.25668112

>>25668043
I think she changed afterwards because being a money hungry whore felt empty and she wanted a more meaningful life, but she certainly enjoyed being lewd and sucking money out of those Americandies.

>> No.25668129

>>25668099
I bet you would call Meow a samefag and deny her existence.

>> No.25668149

>>25668112
nah, she shows that professional, "I enjoy this job because I'm good at it"-attitude from the start. it's very noticeable in how her attitude changes depending on whether she sees the person she's talking to as competition, a potential customer or a third party.

>> No.25668155
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>>25664392
Sayo's "underdevelopment" is literally just a side effect of male castration. While inbreeding does delay puberty (not by several years, that's for sure), it's just that, a delay.

>> No.25668178

>>25668112
<Death by hanging>

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Her two attendants interrupt her train of thought immediately after this, saying she has a meeting or some inane shit. They are the traitors, aren't they?

>> No.25668258

>>25668155
>the prostate either disappears or becomes extremely small
bros...

>> No.25668276

>>25668155
>early age (<11yo)
That's not enough. Yasu looks convincingly like a girl because she got her balls and dick cut off as a baby. If you are already 11, or hell even 6, you'll look like a weird tranny instead of a cute girl.

>> No.25668355

>>25668224
For all we know, they could all be allies and traitors at the same time. I mean, we know "personalities" can be placed in the brains as some kind of app.

>> No.25668393

>>25668276
This. Your sex is decided in the womb several months before birth, practically by a coin flip. That's why boys have nipples and clits are just microdicks. It's not a predetermined thing, fetuses are genderless for a long time. So if you fuck up a baby's balls and dick, it's practically the same as reverting that process and almost negating that "decision". Only the chromosomes are left intact, but there was barely any time for the sex to have any effect on the body.

So Yasu will always be a genderless freak with a broken peehole hastily made by a hack doctor who isn't qualified for reconstruction surgery.

>> No.25668474

>>25668155
>compare DNA injure with Body injure
Cope shkanon cuck

>> No.25668534

>>25668355
Sure, but a new personality appearing out of nowhere one day would be suspicious, especially in world where brains can be hacked. Unless they operate in the background and don't reveal themselves.

Speaking of that, does Selcom stay installed in an unused part of the brain forever after installing it, or do you actually need to wear that chip thing under your arm the whole time? Miyao talked about his Seldom possibly breaking one day and killing his personalized keropoyo, but I assumed he meant that the OS could bug out and force him to reinstall at a Selcom shop.

I've seen speedreaders under the impression that Selcom depends on a physical thing at all times, but I think that tip made it clear it's a one time thing, like using a CD to install something on your computer and never touching it again.

>> No.25668573

>>25667506
Before I got to season 3 I thought Meixue was Butler's Ange, don't ask me why.

>> No.25668598

>tfw RGD makes you paranoid about your grandma's hidden past

>> No.25668604

>>25664502
>not making Lion suck you off
>>25661779
Yeah, but I'll be doing the impregnation.

>> No.25668610

>>25668276
It's amazing what lengths people would go to to try and pretend that they're not into a trans person.

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>>25667663
Wouldn't want to experience my spooks any other way

>> No.25668638

>>25667165
I'd feel bad too, but there's no way I'd resist. Unless she has aids or some shit.

>> No.25668668

>>25668610
She's still an eunuch, I'm just stating facts. Yasu is not some fucked up tranny with a weirdly male face, she didn't have any time to develop that way.

>> No.25668693

>>25668668
Whatever makes you feel better Anon. Just keep on repeating stereotypes and push those feelings away.

>> No.25668716

>>25668668
Yasu is a woman
Kinzo is not gay

>> No.25668846

>>25668534
>Sure, but a new personality appearing out of nowhere one day would be suspicious, especially in world where brains can be hacked. Unless they operate in the background and don't reveal themselves.
Dude, Blueyao exists.
That, and Blueyao claims that Miyao isn't a real persona, but that he's an app made for a purpose.

>> No.25668893

>>25668610
I just want to know what the fuck is going on. Where does it say that there was a boy who lost their balls?

>> No.25669006

>>25668846
Blueyao doesn't pretend to be good while stabbing Miyao in the back. He also doesn't make any excuses for where he's been their whole life, because it's obvious he's a program.

If there's a traitor alter among the other gauntlet knights, it has to be a proper person who is secretly betraying their lifelong headmates, not some AI installed in their brain. The AI would immediately be spotted as a troublesome intruder created with malicious intent. Miyao should've freaked out and have his Selcom formatted. That would probably erase that prick.

>> No.25669040

>>25669006
Blueyao is not evil, he just acts like a dick because Miyao refuses to follow his instructions to avoid the disaster and doesn't believe him. I also suspect he's just Meow.

>> No.25669054

>>25669006
What if those apps are not easy to detect and even less to do away with? We see Keropoyo try to erase Blueyao but can't.
Also, for all we know, the traitors might be some kind of sleeping agents, as in the apps are there, and they function from time to time, without the real persons knowing they exist, and they will only actually activate to do whatever under certain conditions.

>> No.25669100

>>25669006
>implying Miyao wasn't put in Meow's head when she was a baby
He's Toujirou's secret weapon. If Miyao ever deletes his selcom install, he erases himself.

>> No.25669130

I suspect Cyril had a small bomb implanted in his head that was set to explode near the vicinity of his sister's selcom or gaunlet.

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>>25665059
Sorry, but Miyao probably doesn't have a dick. Meow said something about her sex not being a problem for Jayden. Thinking about it, perhaps the reason Jayden is so worried is because he already knows from a previous timeloop that the 'real' Miyao is a girl?
>>25666255
What's his routine?
>>25667627
But Jayden isn't gay.

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>>25668893
>Nanjo specifically says Sayo's sexual organs were badly mutilated in the fall
>man from 19 years ago
>caller uses gendered words when speaking on the phone like ore and ani
>literally none of Sayo's plights would make sense if she was born female
>literally no other reason for Sayo to not hit puberty except because of male castration
>"I’m also skilled at cooking. Gender equality, after all. I think that regardless of gender, one should be able to stand in the kitchen.”

Not a single thing in the vn (or the manga for that matter) points to, or even hints at Sayo being a female or still having their testicles. You can argue Sayo still has a dick tho since that doesn't contradict anything else.

>> No.25669156

>>25669135
Miyao would commit suicide if Meow ever revealed they've got a hairy teen pussy.

>> No.25669158

>>25669135
he's attracted to a person he thinks of as a guy, that's gay.
>b-but it turned out afterward that she was really a girl
cope

>> No.25669251

>>25669149
This
All headcanons never confirm by the VN
Tje only thing that VN confirm is that Kinzo was afraod of commit the same SIN again
So she is female at 100%

>> No.25669254

>>25669149
>You can argue Sayo still has a dick tho since that doesn't contradict anything else.
That would mean she's mentally challenged and somehow never knew what a dick and pussy are supposed to look like. Or she knew but somehow never realized she's a freak. No matter how you stretch it, it's ludicrous to assume she didn't know what human genitals look like.

She just has a castration wound with a peehole. She thought she was a girl with an ugly or slightly deformed pussy, that's why she was confused when she looked at proper pussies in a book and saw how truly deformed she was. If she kept any amount of dick, it wouldn't make sense for her not to notice and would require actual mental retardation.

>> No.25669314

>>25669254
to play devils advocate, I think we have a somewhat warped view of peoples natural understanding of what they're supposed to look like. growing up in the 1970s on an isolated islands with no close friends or internet would leave you ignorant about a lot of things we take for granted.

>> No.25669394

Kinzo's sin was locking up and impregnating his daughter.

That said, Kinzo isn't out to commit sins. His desire is to take Beatrice as his wife, not to impregnate her.

That's why Genji had no problem with Lion but quickly faked Yasu's death. "This boy is truly fucked without a dick, he'll only be happy if we raise him as a girl and pretend everything is normal. But this means I have to hide "her" from Kinzo to prevent him from locking her up and making her into his waifu".

That's why Genji was afraid of Kinzo finding out about Yasu's survival. They pulled a David Reimer (a horrible idea) and raised him as a girl, which means Kinzo would be a problem.

They only hide the baby when he's made into an eunuch. And Kinzo's desire is to marry a "female" descendant of Beatrice, not to have a child with her.

Erikanon's theory makes no sense. Kanon is not a tomboy, he's a fucking eunuch. There's even a bunch of music tracks in EP7 that feature eunuchs chanting with that characteristic voice. Look it up and compare.

>> No.25669444

>>25669394
This not explain why kinzo is afraid before the Natsuhi push

Only Female Yasu can explain that

>> No.25669452

>>25669394
>They pulled a David Reimer (a horrible idea)
Looking at Shkanon, I wouldn't call it a horrible idea actually.

>> No.25669507

>>25669314
Sure, but even a 6 year old at least know that girls have "nothing" down there and boys have a dick. That's the bare minimum. Let alone a 17 year old. It's ludicrous to think she had a dick and didn't immediately think the obvious. Just like Natsuhi and even fucking Kinzo somehow never knowing the gender of the baby even by chance, it's ridiculous to think that. It's a huge stretch.

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>>25668893

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>>25669156
Humiliating! Pathetic! Lewd!

>> No.25669578

>>25669552
Incest monster
A broken woman body

>> No.25669639

>>25669254
Pretty much this: >>25669314
I don't believe Sayo still has a dick at all, but I'm willing to admit that one can argue she does.

There are two things that potentially point to an answer on whether or not he has a dick, but even then they rely on interpretation :
When Kanon is defending Jessica, he says that his blade can't even trim the roses, you can take this to mean that he either has no dick, or his dick is so mutilated he can't do shit with it.
Then there's the scene when he's sticking his fingers in his bloody gaping wound and saying it's not deep at all, that everything is fine. You can interpret this as being a form of foreshadow or representation for a castration wound.

>> No.25669647

>>25669444
>This not explain why kinzo is afraid before the Natsuhi push
He was not. He intended to make the baby his grandson and didn't feel any desire to have it replace his waifu. He only went insane when the last remnant of Beatrice's blood, his literal son, got thrown off a cliff by Natsuhi and killed. He cursed his bad luck and gave up on life.

In Lion's world, we can see that Kinzo raised him as his grandson and never had any thoughts about fucking him.

Hell, Genji's fears were unfounded. Kinzo would never do the same thing again even if he figured out the cute maid was Yasu much earlier. He regretted the mistake he made with his daughter, why would he do it again? And with a confused eunuch no less?

Genji suspected Kinzo because he had done it once before and also wanted to punish him, to make him think about his mistakes. But as it turns out, Kinzo never intended to do the same thing again.

Your theory is debunked, Erikanon. You are saying Kinzo has feeling and intentions towards Yasu that he never had.

>> No.25669682

>>25669647
commend you for trying, but it's literally wasted effort

>> No.25669712

>>25669647
What is the epigraph?
A riddle?

NOPE
WAS A DESPERATE REQUEST OF KINZO TP GENJI TO MAKE HIM SEE HER DAUGTHER FOR THE LAST TIME

NO ONE CAN SOLVE THE EPIGRAPH WOTHOUT GENJI HELP
BECAUSE IS NOT THINK TO BE SOLVABLE

IN THIS EPIGRAPH THERE IS ALL HIS LOVE FOR YASU
HE TRIED TO AVPID ANOTHER SIN BY MALING HIM RAISE AS A MAN BUT THE CRUEL DESTINY DENY HIS DREAM
YEAR PASS AND FINNALLY HE RECOINNASE HIM AFTER SEEING KANON

HOW CAN ERILA SOLVE AN UNSOLVABLE RIDDLE?
SIMPLE THIS RIDDLE WAS MADE FOR HER

>> No.25669731

>>25669682
Why i like arguing?

>> No.25669763

>>25669731
Can understand that, but usually it's a two way street. What you got here is a wall.

>> No.25669764

>>25669639
>There are two things that potentially point to an answer on whether or not he has a dick, but even then they rely on interpretation :
>When Kanon is defending Jessica, he says that his blade can't even trim the roses, you can take this to mean that he either has no dick, or his dick is so mutilated he can't do shit with it.
Sure, but that's just a way of saying he has no dick. It doesn't have to be a literal description of its size. He could also be talking about how he'll never be a real man because he's been raised as a girl his whole life and doesn't have any masculinity.

>Then there's the scene when he's sticking his fingers in his bloody gaping wound and saying it's not deep at all, that everything is fine. You can interpret this as being a form of foreshadow or representation for a castration wound.
Yeah, that was him trying to disturb Nanjo. He's saying it's not a deep wound and not a big deal, which is clearly not the case. Those are the things Nanjo must have thought when he forced him to live in that broken body, that it's not a big deal. This is basically Kanon calling him out on his mistake and hinting at why he wants to kill Nanjo.

>> No.25669768

>>25669712
10/10 if you wanted to miss the whole point of the discussion.
>HOW CAN ERILA SOLVE AN UNSOLVABLE RIDDLE? SIMPLE THIS RIDDLE WAS MADE FOR HER
So, Eva was Yasu as well?

>> No.25669812

>>25669768
Eva solved the epigraph with thw numbers on mansion parlor
She solve the epigraph only aftwr Battler's death never before

>> No.25669832

>>25669763
I like arguing not submiss to another person

Never defend always attack

>> No.25669862

Ignore the troll, he's intentionally ignoring everything you say and using broken English even when someone politely points out one of his common and easily fixed mistakes.

Just stop replying to him. Luckily he can't samefag because you'll always know it's him from the bad grammar.

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>>25669862
>he can't samefag
You think he hasn't learned how to write in proper in english by now?
He seems to understand the discussions here pretty well.

>> No.25669896

>>25669862
Anon if you argument is wrong doesnt matter how much is long

KINZO IS AFRAID OF COMMIT THE SAME SIN AGAIN BEFORE GIVE YASU TO NATSUHI

SO YASU CANT BE A MAN
so difficult to understand

>> No.25669924

>>25669896
>KINZO IS AFRAID OF COMMIT THE SAME SIN AGAIN BEFORE GIVE YASU TO NATSUHI
This is false and someone just proved you wrong. Why are you such a troll? Admit you are wrong or tackle their arguments like a man.

>> No.25669960

>>25669924
Reread the VN
The manga is not canon

Kinzo is aware that Yasu is alive only after she become Kanon
So the only moment he can be afraid of commit the same sin again is before tje adoption to natsuhi

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stop replying to him and post cute oji-sans

>> No.25669995

>>25669149
>>25669314
>>25669394
>>25669507
>>25669552
Why does Sayo have school attire? So going to school not knowing about girls having penises being wrong its some kind of level of retardation. But supposedly Sayo never left the island so is that clothing just part of home schooling?

Also a broken woman body could also not make children. Why would he say that "even if it was a body that cannot make children" makes no sense if he was a male?
Reminds me of Meow mentioning the gender wouldn't bother Jayden unless Jayden was definitely gay and was worried that Miyao was a female.
I can only see some bad translation creating all this fuss.

>> No.25670011

MANGO IS OF MAKED BY GOATS WHO NO LEARN PROPER TRUE OF BASKERVILLE

>> No.25670033

>>25669862
He read Umineko in Italian (and judging from the Spanish translation, it's probably just as godawful). He has no grasp of English and just barely understands posts on 4chan, but he's incapable of catching subtext, implications or obvious double meanings. That is fatal if you are trying to read Umineko of all things. He also has very low IQ, at least one mental illness, and admitted to being a closet SJW (the typical normie who hates SJWs but is still brainwashed about certain touchy subjects, i.e. anything sexual).

He's either really fucking stupid or, most likely, has some weird mental illness. I'd pity him, but I hate idiots and I want to see SJWs burn alive.

>> No.25670062

>>25669995
Shannon went to school with Jessica, just not everyday.

>> No.25670065

>>25669995
>Sayo never left the island
Speedreader spotted. She literally says several times she goes to school on Niijima, has some friends there and even lives in a Niijima dorm when she's not staying on the island for several days for a conference.

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>>25670011
>MANGO IS OF MAKED BY GOATS WHO NO LEARN PROPER TRUE OF BASKERVILLE
YIIIIIIIIIIKKKKKKEEEESSSSS

Its like a bad poetry context where pizzaanon is the winner.

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discover the real truth of umineko

>> No.25670163

>>25670062
>>25670065
So hard not to be on a level of retardation not understanding what is a female or a male.

I now have a kind of headcanon Sayo is a female that was already infertile due to incest offspring and had an accident making her also incapable of having intercourse properly. So the whole thing makes it a tease to Sayo how can she love someone and be reciprocated if she is an abomination useless for reproduction and even carnal pleasure for a man.
Does it make sense? I just want to find what makes sense I'm not italian.

>> No.25670211

>>25669960
>The manga is not canon
This is like saying Bern didn't exist in Higurashi just because Umineko made her a main character. That doesn't mean she was retroactively retconned into Higurashi. She was literally a character in it. In the same way, the manga only shed light on the truth because idiots like you misinterpreted the VN and sabotaged R07's best VN in revenge.

>> No.25670250

>>25670011
This
>>25670033
Only an italian can solve umineko
>>25670120
BASED HERO
NOTHING BETTER THAN A MASSAGE WITH A CUTE TOMBOY
>>25670211
Bernkastle is just Battler's family culprit theory

>> No.25670258

Ciconia theories > Talking about Nina's smelly arse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listening to Erikanon's shit >>> interacting in any way with the piles of human trash from discord

>> No.25670282

>>25670258
Be like me
If you are on discord post
"I have a different think"
TOTAL BAN FROM ALM REDDIT GROUPS FOREVER
Trust me personaly expirience

>> No.25670304

>>25670282
Sorry discord not reddit even if they are the same

>> No.25670315

Should I create a WTC discord server where everything is allowed except SJWs and Erikanon?

Nah, just kidding. Namefags are cancer and I hate how every posted there can just vanish forever if the server is deleted. I only browse /jp/ because Warosu exists.

>> No.25670357

>>25669149
They are just mad their waifu is not a girl, denial is a powerful force, especially after someone reads umineko.

>> No.25670365

>>25669995
>Why would he say that "even if it was a body that cannot make children" makes no sense if he was a male?
But why would he say that if she was female and all he did was prevent her from dying? "I prevented you from dying even though you wouldn't be able to have children." What?
He's saying that because they decided to raise Sayo as female, even though she didnt have the body for it, because they thought it would lead her to a happy life. He knew that Sayo wouldn't go through puberty having undergone castration and would be extremely feminine because of it. You'd also have to address everything else pointing to Sayo being biologically male.

>>25670163
If you ignore everything else, I suppose you can fall back on genetic defects from incest, but Sayo is only a first-generation inbred. The effects of inbreeding aren't that huge. She'd have a *chance* at having a weaker immune system, an increased chance at being retarded, smaller height, potentially still-born children, weaker sperm, and lower birth rate are about it. Not to mention they wouldn't have known the extent of any of that on a newborn baby.

>> No.25670375

>>25670120
The link wrutten un the image is wrong anon

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>> No.25670444

>>25670419
>really
Based anon Confirm that Erikantrice is REAL

>> No.25670537

>>25632334
>delicious
ftfw

>> No.25670549

>>25670444
yep, it really is a manifesto that someone really wrote

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>>25670250
>Bernkastle is just Battler's family culprit theory
>is just
>JUST

You insult my beloved witch waifu mistyping her name. You even deny her existence disregarding Higurashi completely and even the author himself.

Here me out you bitch lasagna. You are going to wish I'll never see you in front of me because if I do I'm going to grab your fucking erikantrice theory of your and force feed it with a broomstick and beat you with it so hard you are going to shit your guts, along with your theory, out like spaghetti and I'll make you eat all of it with chopsticks made out of your finger bones and throw you mushy ass dead body in the Venice canals.

>> No.25670631

>>25670573
God effort post man but this doesn't change the fact that Bern is just a dumb pawn of Erika who wanted insult Beatrice's mystery so people can accept her as Truth

>> No.25671413

How would Erika solve higurashi?

>> No.25671479

>>25671413
In Higurashi red truth would be that the detective is killed so she couldn't.

>> No.25671649

>>25671413
with her 190 IQ of course

>> No.25671763

Wang > Gabriel

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>>25671413

>> No.25671864

>>25668031
Where was it implied that Zel's anus in particular is broken?

>> No.25671878

>>25671838
Restoring Satoko's dignity. Protecting her self-conscious preteen ego. Shielding her from the shame of the human condition.

>> No.25671889

>>25671838
>not using the naked one
I clearly remember her being distraught and not covering anything with her hand.

>> No.25671970

>>25671889
She's not naked the whole time. She wears a towel for a short bit, only going full naked on the bridge when she runs away and loses it.

>> No.25672009

>>25671970
I know, I know. But it would be weird for Erika to snatch away her towel, expose her snatch and then cover her with tape. It would make more sense to use the arse-naked sprite. On the other hand, the towel one does make sense because she's not butt-ass-fucking-naked and is actually covered with tape. Hmmmmm.

Truly a difficult choice. It's almost like Ryuukishi belongs in a mental institution.

>> No.25672017

>>25671970
And this is why the censored versions make no sense. Why would she run from a maniac with an axe while awkwardly holding onto her towel? You'd run like hell and throw that shit away.

>> No.25672028

>>25671763
>you will never personally organize the colonization of other primitive countries, subvert their savage traditions and make their next generation recognize your culture as not only practically but morally, spiritually superior, to the point where they will speak your language when among themselves and won't even bother passing down their mother tongue to their decedents

>> No.25672044

>>25672017
What if K1 lowers the axe with enough force to pierce her skin, but she turns away and the axe goes through the crack of her arse, barely touching her skin?

Saved by her loli ass! Pathetic!

>> No.25672077

>>25672044
When God expelled Adam and Eve from paradise, He used His holy sword of fire to slice the bottom part of their torso, thus creating the butt. After that day, they were forced to survive in the human world and eat unholy food full of impurities that they had to shit out of their anuses.

The butt crack is a mark of shame that has been passed down from generation to generation. That's what "child of man" means. Featherine is making fun of Ange because she's a child of man and therefore her butt is split in two. Witches do not have a butt crack or an asshole, because they are not lowly humans.

Satoko's ass. The most shameful part of her body. The part where Satoko's back loses its noble name.

>> No.25672123

>>25672077
10/10, I don't think you're going to top this one anytime soon.

>> No.25672151

>tfw the Ephraim sauntered pasta was written in 2003 according to Google
How long has humiliation anon been around?

>> No.25672161

Do you know Oyashiro-sama?

>> No.25672176

>>25672161
who lives in Hinamizawa?

>> No.25672211

>>25672176
Yes, Hinamizawa.

>> No.25672340

>>25667753
>not wanting your waifu to be perfect
You must hate androids and robot girls.

>> No.25672378

>tfw Rose's guards literally used a stack of super paper to block bullets
Lambda cameo?

>> No.25672461

Why do chinks create chinatowns wherever they go and only interact with fellow chinks? It makes them feel alien and disconnected from the rest of society. Other immigrants don't do this shit so often.

>> No.25672506

>>25672077
Without your ass you are not able to create something out of impure food which is excrement.
It's the excrement that becomes food for flora to be able to grow and repeat the cycle which lets you eat food once again. Do you think this is something shameful?

>> No.25672531

>>25672461
They are commies at a genetic level and also like to stealthily expand their territory inside foreign countries.

Japanese immigrants are rare because their entire education, language quirks, obsession with politeness and social skills are built for Japan's autistic ass society of robots that will NEVER say what they truly think even if you're their friend for 20 years. They'll still say everything is sugoi even if deep down they find you annoying or something, so you never know when they genuinely appreciate you. Obviously Japs feel like fish of water in foreign countries and just don't know how to act without all those rules guiding their behavior.

>> No.25672549

>>25672506
Reality speaks for itself. If any young girl got her ass exposed in front of everyone, she'd become suicidal. Now imagine if they saw her taking a shit.

>> No.25672567

>>25672531
Japanese people are a bunch of catboxes not sure if good or bad.

>>25672549
>Now imagine if they saw her taking a shit.
Imagine not being able to take a shit due a deformity now that is something to be shameful of.

>> No.25672793

Gunhild > Nina > Jessica > Mion

>> No.25672823

phase 2 tomorrow

>> No.25672903

>>25672793
I get it, you like rena.

>> No.25672948

>>25672903
Mion is the best Higurashi, I just like those three more. Rena is OK.

>> No.25672970

>>25672793
Arse tho. Every single one of them. Arse.

>> No.25672975

>>25672793
>jessica
>on anybodies list

>> No.25672982

I can't imagine Naima with hair, but I can't imagine her bald either. What's wrong with me?

>> No.25672995

>>25672975
>tomboy
>perfect tits
>golden bush with curly hairs
>dat blush sprite

>> No.25672999

>>25672948
I could understand Mion = Gunhild > Jessica > Nina, but the idea that anyone could think Jessica > Mion and Nina > Jessica is completely incomprehensible to me.

>> No.25673018

>>25672995
She's pathetic at being a tomboy. Even Shion is more of a tomboy than her.

>> No.25673019

>>25672999
Mion has more character development and screentime, but that's not everything when it comes to waifus.

>> No.25673042

>>25673018
All tomboys are pathetic at being tomboys. All their masculinity means nothing when you remember they've got tits and hairy pussies under their clothes, the least masculine things in the world.

>> No.25673055

>>25673018
>Shion
>tomboy
Being a cheeky bitch with attitude isn't being a tomboy.

>> No.25673062
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Phase...Two ?...

>> No.25673067

>>25673055
which was exactly my point
Jessica is even less than that

>> No.25673155

>>25673019
>waifus
ah.

>> No.25673260

>>25672982
Naima's design is genius. First of all, she's white and we all know caucasian middle eastern lolis from Syria or Iraq are the most beautiful in the world. The decorated pink hijab is hella cute and accentuates her modesty, making her appear exotic, pure, childish and playful at the same time. It also hides most of her head, giving her hair a mysterious allure that makes the idea of seeing it somehow lewd and intimate. She looks so modest and religious, it makes you want to strip her naked and see her wretched human form in all its glory, and observe her reaction to this shameful display.

We normally identify anime characters by their hair color and hairstyle. By hiding it, the most remarkable parts of her design become the few parts where she shows any skin. This association with skin rather than hair, especially when she's wearing such modest clothing, gives the impression that she's the human embodiment of a potato, which makes her seem cuter and dorkier. This is emphasized by her round loli face.

All this focus on her naked face, which would be impossible if her hair was visible, makes you think about other places where she might have a large surface of bare skin. This means her design as a whole almost forces you to imagine her bald pussy, tummy and ass cheeks.

Also, her gauntlet is a badass cobra head coming from her armpit.

>> No.25673317

>>25673260
Doesn't this mean a naked Naima would lose all her charm? I mean, at the end of the day she's a 12 year old with a slender, skinny body that has lost the baby fat but still hasn't gained enough meat from puberty. A naked Naima would just look awkward, like a middle stage pokemon, losing the round and tiny aura that her clothes give her. But I guess that awkwardness is its own kind of humiliation.

>> No.25673386

>>25673260
>this is all intentional and Naima will survive long enough to get skinned alive at the factory like a peeled potato

>> No.25673402

>>25673260
I though I was the only one that got potato vibes from Naima. Then again, anime Rika reminds me of a blue penguin.

>> No.25673441

>>25673260
This is a great analysis. I for example, always though about Gaap's curly bush every time I saw her hairdo. Hair does play an important role in how we perceive characters and how we lewd them.

>> No.25673458

>>25668063
who

>> No.25673469

>>25668604
letting lion dom and sucking him off is patrician im not sure what youre on about

>> No.25673503

>>25673458
Haworthia from Haworthia

>> No.25673567

>>25673260
>her gauntlet is a badass cobra head coming from her armpit
Disgusting! How can she live with herself? Human! Did you know that being human is pathetic? Nor only do they look dumb and their whole sense of pride relies on ignoring the fact that they've got arses, but they are also psychologically and morally wretched. Humans are capable of great evil and perversion. They are also responsible for the pollution killing the planet! Damn human! Kill yourself Naima! As if being part of humanity wasn't shameful enough, she also contributes to pollution by using toilet paper and generating plastic trash. Go live in the forest, you human bitch!

>> No.25673582

>>25673567
>triggered witch

>> No.25673641
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>>25670011
Kek.

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It's too indecent to have proportions like this! It's too lewd! How can they live with themselves like this? Insane!

>> No.25673696

>>25673668
Made for breeding.

>> No.25673750

>>25634888
her boobs lmao

>> No.25675338

How can we deny the Witch of Humiliation? Its getting tiresome...

>> No.25675665

I want to go on a date with Lingji.

>> No.25675682

>>25675665
She's got a hairy pussy and an asshole. That's kinda...

>> No.25675721

>>25675338
To deny the witch of humiliation, you have to deny the very concept of humanity. In other words, become president and throw some nukes around to start a chain reaction and end humanity. The moment the last loli anus on Earth is eaten by maggots and the last human cell expires, the witch will die.

>> No.25675752

>>25675682
That's kinda hot. Imagine giving her a rimjob and removing the anal hair with your teeth.

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>>25675721
Fine by me, let's do it

>> No.25675974

>>25675721
Requesting artwork of Witch of Humiliation

>> No.25675988

>>25673260
>>25673317
Naima comfirmed best, design. Prove it wrong Chloefags.

>> No.25676009

>>25675974
Isn't that just Sumire from Higanbana? In the same way mafia is organized crime, bullying is organized humiliation.

>> No.25676041

>>25675721
Why not wipe out all humans and raise the last few specimens as illiterate animals before killing yourself? That way, their descendants won't have any culture, language or sense of modesty. Make humans into cavemen again to erase humiliation from existence.

>> No.25676060

>>25675752
That's not hot. Her humiliating reaction at how not-hot it is, that is hot.

>> No.25676156

I'm going to be seriously disappointed if there's no RGD expy in Ciconia. Gabriel is a no brainer considering the setting and biblical references.

>> No.25676289

>>25669987
SSSSSNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.25676337

>>25676156
Why do you want to see that motherfucker's face again?

>> No.25676381

>>25676337
Maybe he could take the role of a good guy this time around.

>> No.25676411

>>25639019
That whole scene got creepy as fuck when Zilong called and you could hear all the elders getting murdered in the background. Wang must've been scared shitless

>> No.25676479

>>25676156
There's a literal mafia goon in Reth's kette, arguably the soul of RGD.

>> No.25676907

How come humiliation anon randomly switches targets every so often? This is Nina humiliation: the thread.

>> No.25677428

>>25673567
This is quite true. Any girl who doesn't kill herself is a wretched creature.

>> No.25677441

>>25673317
>the most perfect shape of a human body
>awkward

>> No.25677494

>>25675752
>giving anyone at all a rimjob
Even Lingji wouldn't use a Portal gun to give herself a rimjob, not in a million years. Why would you do that to her butt?

>> No.25677528

>>25677494
>not eating out a round plump ass
What a fag.

>> No.25677552

>>25677494
>tfw portal guns can create the ultimate humiliation technique: 1 person human centipede. Although you'd have to force her to eat A LOT before sewing her mouth to her asshole and creating a closed circle of shit with no entry point. Also, she'd die if you turned off the portal.

>> No.25677582

>>25677528
>not pretending to eat her ass for a second only to stop and act like you are disgusted so she starts crying in shame and you can fap to her humiliation
Get on my level fagboy.

>> No.25677602

>>25677528
>underage chink
>plump ass

>> No.25677616

>>25677582
Your idea is okay, but rather than fapping like some fag, I would eat her ass while she cries.

>>25677602
It's the future, apparently Asians got fat.

>> No.25677620

>>25673260
10/10 and gold medal.

>> No.25677649

>>25677616
You are still eating a shitter that just happens to be attached to pretty face. It's made of the same material as the ugliest ass in the world.

>> No.25677663

>>25677649
It's a nice shitter, and that's what I like.

>> No.25677743

>even an edgelord like Nevada-tan still has a round, soft, squishy butt that makes her come off as a teddy bear rather than an edgy killer

>> No.25677768

>>25677743
She eventually ate bread and drank some juice.

>> No.25677807

>>25677743
Nevada is a goody goody, goody2shoes.

Nevada is what Mitarain't.

>> No.25677937

>>25666069
Is this real? Why did nobody tell me rose guns days had teen prostitution?

>> No.25677968

>>25666227
I don't get it either. It's not the Higurashi anime was for all ages, so what's the deal? Even kodomo anime get away with full frontal loli nudity.

>> No.25678122

>>25673260
Naima only has a wrinkle on her body and she's sitting on it.

>> No.25678986
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ENTER GOAT

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>>25638540
I FIXED IT
THANKS ME LATER

>> No.25682063

>>25680660
Ruined

>> No.25682229
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Let me get this straight. Hanyuu observed Rika and her friends for over 100 years but not even once did she think about following Tomitake or Takano to see what or who killed them on the night of Watanagashi?

>> No.25682243

>>25678986
>not using the literal goat antagonist
you had one job anon

>> No.25682435

>>25682229
eyah she's stupid
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>>25682243
I'm sorry Kinzo

>> No.25684021

>>25676289
mion does not stink

>> No.25684570

>>25684021
Yeah, as Oryo's successor she'd be very careful about her hygiene. Shion would probably not wash at all while dressed up as MIon though.

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Does the steam version of higurashi cut some scenes from the original pc version, or is it the same as the original?

>> No.25685614

>>25680660
Dude, literally fuck off lol. Nice job at ruining my shit your sperg. Kill yourself.

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>>25678986
>>25682243
>>25682646
I want dragon ball crossovers with umineko so bad.

>> No.25686111

>>25685055
Pretty sure it's the same other than no nude satoko

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>>25685614
mad cuck

>> No.25686560

>>/x/thread/25944668
Meanwhile /x/ is solving ciconia accidentally.

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>>25686560
Ryukishi is trying to warn us

>> No.25688388

>>25673386
>Naima will survive long enough to get skinned alive at the factory like a peeled potato
Yikes.

>> No.25688417

>>25673260
You didn't mention her boots, which probably make her sweaty loli feet smell.

>> No.25688508

>>25673260
>the human embodiment of a potato
Cute

>> No.25689715

>>25673567
Naima is probably taking a shit while she talks to everyone in the virtual room.

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>>25682229
I'm pretty sure it's things like that that made r07 kind of retroactively change her. Then again, this could also just be how Bern perceived it after she broke, idk.

>> No.25689950

>>25689840
well, even in higu she's written as an insanely passive character. every other line of dialogue she gets is "au, au, don't get your hopes up rika. just accept whatever happens, don't make any bets and you can never lose!".

>> No.25689970

>>25682229
>>25689840
It's implied Hanyuu has two "personalities" so to speak. When she's in God mode, she spies on people and talks about how she's been observing Ooishi's life since he was born. When she's with Rika and has a kid's personality, she doesn't seem to remember any of that shit consciously and even loses her maturity.

It's too consistent to be unintentional. So if she tried to follow Takano, she would change personalities as soon as she got near Rika and forget what she was doing and what she learned.

Ryuukishi has been toying with the DID thing since Higurashi.

>> No.25690019

>>25689970
I guess Hanyuu being broken on some level makes sense. There's a huge gap between the contented dumb ghost Hanyuu Rika interacts with and the creepy stalker that follows people around and apologizes to them endlessly.

>> No.25690034

>>25689970
This makes sense. Rika is her reincarnation in a way, so when she's near Rika she half-reincarnates and loses part of her true power in exchange for being able to feel what Rika feels.

It's the same thing with Bernkastel. When Rika dies and merges with her in the fragment sea, she's capable of calmly analyzing every single memory so far without the limitations of a physical human brain. But once she goes to the next world, she's limited again and can't juggle so much information in her head.

>> No.25690087

>>25689970
This. She seemed to understand all about Takano's struggles and past when she spoke to her in God form near the end, but she was at a loss for words when Rika asked her why the fuck Takano would be the culprit early on.

>> No.25690131

>>25689970
you know, I think this is the first time I've seen someone point this out.

>> No.25690341

>>25690034
Rika's brain can probably hold around 80 years worth of memories. Bernkastel has no limit and probably remembers every single tedious repetition of every event, as well as all the horrific deaths Rika shouldn't remember in order to function properly. No wonder she's so fucked up.

Higurashi Bernkastel isn't some edgy version of Rika, she's a fate worse than death that remembers every second in vivid detail because she's pure mind and doesn't have a physical brain. Then she gets even more fucked up in Umineko because she's spent an eternity as an immortal being.

Ciconia brings up this subject when Gunhild wonders if humans living forever in a matrix would go insane. The crazy ass witches from Umineko are the answer to that. This is why the matrix AIs are probably deleting some of their memories in the form of data fragments.

>> No.25690422

>>25690341
>The crazy ass witches from Umineko are the answer to that.
Eh... I think the fact that both Bern and 34 went through horrible experiences before becoming witches also added to their madness. Immortality simply meant no release from all that.

>> No.25690426

>>25690341
What if Blueyao is a copy of Miyao's mind that hasn't been reset with each loop of the matrix and has gone witch level bonkers?

>> No.25690462

>>25690422
Eternal life would drive anyone insane sooner or later, if it's truly eternal. Even if your life has been perfect the whole time.

>> No.25690508

>>25690462
>Eternal life would drive anyone insane sooner or later
I actually wonder about that. I mean, there's no way to know since the idea of eternal life has no basis on reality, but if it was possible, I think reactions to it would vary from people to people.

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>>25689840
>>25682229
r07 actually addressed this in an interview: http://web.archive.org/web/20070815024021/www.toranoana.jp/higurasi/nakasekata4/higurashi_4_3.html

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>>25690554
>...it's going to come in next time (chuckles)

>> No.25690746

>>25690462
Your mind is constantly erasing memories to make room, so how long you live has no bearing on that. The only thing that would make you insane would be the realization that literally nothing matters. If you live forever, then death and limited time arent there to drive you to do something today. The epitome of I can do it tomorrow, why do it today? Why do anything? Lifespans give value to everything you experience. Try playing your favourite game with god mode on, everything already unlocked and done, it ceases to fun very quickly. As an immortal, there's no urgency or sense of accomplishment, because literally anything is possible for you, given enough time. The one thing you could strive for with any sense of meaning would be finding a way to kill yourself.

>> No.25690962

>>25690746
imo the biggest problem with wide-spread immortality would be the generational conflict it'd cause, both interpersonally and politically. I think eventually progressives would demand that everyone be required to wipe their memories and make a fresh start every century or so, just so the old farts have to re-examine their beliefs without being so damn stubborn about it, and the traditionalist opposition would consider that identity genocide. Individual persons might be able to life forever, but societies made up of immortals wouldn't do so well.

>> No.25691049

>>25690962
Ricu Nnypah~!

>> No.25691059

>>25690746
>Your mind is constantly erasing memories to make room, so how long you live has no bearing on that.
Except if you are a data copy of the original or a meta witch. It's not the mind that erases memories, it's the brain. Without it, you go insane for sure after a memory overload.

>> No.25691117

>>25673260
This is true, whenever I look at Naima I can't help but think about her naked butt cheeks.

>> No.25691249

>>25690962
What conflict could there be when everyone is immortal? You cant do shit to anyone. Everyone would be living in a post-scarcity world. No need for food, water, etc... Money's only purpose would be to entertain yourself, but that would only last a short while before every demand could be met at any time because of automatization. With distant journeys to other worlds... even earth's limited space wouldn't be a problem. Politics would cease to have a purpose because the government's purpose is to take care of it's subjects, something nobody needs. With governments gone, religions would emerge to fill in that gap. The only possible threat would be some kind of religious cult that traps people in fucking unescapeable boxes to torment them with solitary confinement to convert or ounish them.

>> No.25691257

>>25689970
>>25690034
>>25690019
Retarded Hanyuu is the non-meta Hanyuu. This means that its the Hanyuu that reincarnated in genetic memory within Rika. God mode Hanyuu is Meta-Hanyuu and its sort of illegal to have direct influence specially in Rika due to physical rule bindings similar how closed rooms having a physical possible solution.

>>25690341
>Then she gets even more fucked up in Umineko because she's spent an eternity as an immortal being.
This is what she wants you to think because she was trying to play the villain this time.
Either way you are correct because Rika has possible limitations to 80 years of memories and to function properly of course (we can see it as a rule of the game). Limitation of memories to solve the mystery of sort as well it seems direct reference to Borges story of the man that had perfect memory and couldn't sleep or think because of that.

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Sometimes I worry about the long-term effects of introducing my real-life friend group to Umineko

>> No.25692003

>>25691982
your friends are cringe and you are worse for posting that in here

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>>25682229
She's the evil mastermind behind it all

>> No.25692329

>>25691982
It wasn't that bad until the Alexa play meme. I suggest your friends kill themselves.

>> No.25692431

>>25691982
Red-Blue truths battle is something inevitable when we introduce someone to Umineko. I mean, Red-Blue-Golden(-Purple) truths are good concepts ; we all wanted, at least once, to use it in a non-serious debate just for fun. I don't know if the debate is serious, but they just seem to have fun.
It should cease when they finish to read Chiru. As long as they're not anti-magicfag.

>> No.25692486

>>25668031
I always though Zel and the others became legit bar musicians in south america. They recommendation from director Kazan may have been a farce, but it must've given them a boost overseas... maybe.

>> No.25692508

Gunhild is a Hanyuu expy because neither of them has an arse.

>> No.25692555

>>25692003
>>25692329
Imagine your life being so shit that you have a visceral reaction to anyone having fun.

>> No.25692573

>>25692555
Do you even know where you are?

>> No.25692781

>>25692555
You are being reductionary and disingenuous. It's not a reaction to them having fun. The problem is the kind of people they probably are, which is pretty obvious at a glance.

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I've never watched the umineko anime but holy fuck this opening is great. This shot especially. Imagine your wealth being built on someone else's gold, getting away with murder + having sex with your daughter and you're able to stand like this in an opening. Kinzo is a God among men.

>> No.25692870

>>25692801
Kinzo is literally Trump.

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I feel these two songs can grasp the essence of umineko intended for the OST:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-AThqxuPEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd5m567jaFI

Its hard to find the specific genre.

>> No.25692998

>>25692781
What can you possibly tell about what kind of people they are from them having a laugh turning the umineko mechanics into a little game/joke?

>> No.25693019

>>25692958
That image reminds me, can anyone tell me how the fuck Kyrie missed Eva? Am i remembering shit wrong or did she really miss her two fucking times for no reason?

>> No.25693129

>>25692958
Less folkish and more electronic + baroque.

>> No.25693196

>>25693129
Folkish is the spanish guitar where many barroque melodies came from as inspiration. There were some composers back then but I forgot the names.

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>>25692801
OH-DE-SI-RE!

>> No.25695397

>>25677937
No H scenes though.

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rare

>> No.25695808

>>25695715
My girlfriend Higanbana is so cute.

>> No.25696058

I didn't know until recently, but they were a "Grimoire" section on Umineko. Was these added by Witch Hunt or it was originally on the game?

>> No.25697421

>>25696058
The grimoire is just tl notes, so of course they weren't originally a part of the vn.

>> No.25697835

>>25695808
>his girlfriend is an elementary schooler
Pathetic! I bet she can't even tie her shoes!

>> No.25698379

>>25696058
It's in original ep3.

>> No.25698458
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAA ERIKA LET ME DOOOOOOOWN UWOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.25703618

>>25695715
very good, anon
post more

>> No.25703816

>>25672044
Satoko isn't that pathetic.

>> No.25703850

>>25672982
Cute cancerloli.

>> No.25703873

>>25673317
>like a middle stage pokemon
Those are the coolest.

>> No.25703946

>>25698458
Hahaha... Holy shit.

>> No.25704051

>>25673260
And yet... she's got one of those...

>> No.25704362

>>25693019
First time missed because the gun is rigged,
second time because
a) same as first reason
b) on purpose
You decide. I feel Kyrie put on the "witch" facade to make Eva feel pity for Ange. It's more motherly to Ange than returning home and pretend there was an incident on the island. Eva did the same in the death bed, protecting Ange from the truth. Misleading her was the best choice Eva could make as a rejected foster-mother.

>> No.25704482

>>25704362
Never understood why Eva had to play that part. Island exploded and I just happened to survive. Did she really need to be a target of Ange's hate? Ange believing it was an accident and just having a good relationship with Eva would have saved her a lot of pain. Literally what's the point? If there was some info that got out that pointed to what went down, then sure, but there wasn't.

>> No.25704654

>>25704362
Huh, i never thought of it that way. I remember Kyrie trying to say something before she died but blood just came out her throat. Seems possible.

Maybe r07 finds it funny that people hate Kyrie based off that scene and not learning from the 1998 eva scenes that there's more to it than what's shown. Either i'm looking too deep into things or Ryukishi is a genius. I wouldn't be surprised if he hates most of his fanbase for not learning jack shit throughout the story.

>> No.25704744

>>25704482
George was the real culprit
Eva made implode the siland to preserve his reputation

>> No.25704860

>>25704654
Of course he hates his fanbase. He had to go and spell shit out in the manga because his fans were too retarded, only to find out that even that wasn't enough because they ended up spouting that it's not canon. On top of that, the only thing that anyone cares about is Higurashi while everything else is thrown on the backburner.

Honestly though I bet he loves individual fans. He genuinely enjoys meeting fans at conventions and answering questions. Seeing fan art probably gives him the biggest smile. I'm sure working with other people adapting his work even brings him great joy, like working with the group that did the RGD stageplay--he must have been euphoric during it all.

>> No.25704973

>>25704860
It's not that people say it isn't canon, it's that the manga shouldn't be used as a direct answer to the VN and you're a fucking goat if you do that. It's an adaptation, not another set of answer arcs to be used instead of the visual novel. The manga is the manga and the VN is the VN.

Fuck r07 man lmao, made a beautiful story and then made it more complicated with different adaptations, sprites, CGs, fandiscs and all the rest of it.

Umineko would've been better off being not as popular as it is but still just enough so that he saw it through to the end. The golden witch will never be able to rest in peace, sucks.

>> No.25705074

>>25704362
>>25693019
Summary:

Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Eva was already dead.

>> No.25706253

>>25705074
>Kyrie

>> No.25708072

what's the consensus on miotsukushi

>> No.25711678
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25711678

No more Satoko lewding !

>> No.25711690

Where the fuck is the Krauss moon tourism thing from? I swear its a real line from the VN but I can't find anything

>> No.25711750

>>25711690
might be ep5

>> No.25711878
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>>25711690
It was from the ep. 5, 2 years before the incident.

>> No.25712094

>>25711878
>words in the lower part of the screen
DISGUTING
how can someone read like that?

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>>25712094
reading like that also makes moments like this less impactful because it's only a smaller portion of text shown. umineko was built for nvl.

>> No.25712747

>>25712436
this

>> No.25712800

>>25712436
Is there a version of Umineko where you can have Voices on/off, OG backgrounds and sprites and nvl?

>> No.25713554

>>25712800
07th mod has a voice only patch that lets you use voices with the stock game

>> No.25713667

>>25712800
>voice
WHY YOU WANT RUIN A PERFECT EXPIRIENCE OF MUSIC FOR A SHIT DUB

>> No.25715493

>>25628818
>mega link
can we get this as a torrent?

>> No.25716052

>>25711678
Satoko (forma de Naima)

>> No.25716414

I decided to read Higurashi before Ciconia anyway. What's the best version of Higurashi to read?

>> No.25716738

>>25673260
>>25673317
>>25673567
Why would you humiliate a cute loli? Their bodies are hella plain. Why not humiliated someone like Ange, whose body is obscene and ridiculous?

>> No.25716943

>>25716738
Ange could weaponize her shame and enjoy her own humiliation after she's given up on life. Naima isn't perverted enough to enjoy exhibitionism and she's probably more self-conscious, which increases the humiliation she feels.

>> No.25717067

>>25716943
>Ange could weaponize her shame and enjoy her own humiliation
She'd just break down a minute in and break down crying with tears rolling down her naked tits as her bullies burst into laughter.

>> No.25717366

Why does Tequila exist? Why does Chiester 00 exist? Why does Erika exist?

>> No.25717388

>>25717366
Erika is a personality of yasu

>> No.25717420

>>25717366
How would Umineko change if Erika was a Lewd Ass Loli Kiddo™ who bullies Maria at school?

>> No.25717448

>>25717366
Chiester is a walking fetish, but Tequila is meant to be an annoying psycho employed by Primavera.

>> No.25717504

>>25716414
please respond

>> No.25717568

>>25717504
If you know Japanese, read the original release (not Hou).

If you don't, find the Steam version without the February update that fucked up the music. It's still censored, but that's the most decent version available.

>> No.25717606

>>25717366
Chiester shows you that this account is based on the imaginary friends of Maria + whoever she thought Beatrice is. The fact 00 dies in battle against the Black Witch i.e. Rosa and you hear about the bunnies beforehand lets you know that. That in tern lets you in on the fact that they're probably supposed to represent another real life object, i.e. the winchester rifles (Chiester = winchester and they make a big deal about how they're owned by King Pendragon, whose capital was in Camelot i.e. Winchester).
>Erika
Reinforces that everything in the story is created by people after the fact just because they can. Erika's just some poor girl who drowned on the same day as the massacre, but she ends up being portrayed as a smug, callous villain.

>> No.25717608

>>25717568
07th-mod has a music patch so that doesn't matter.

>> No.25717630

>>25717606
00 is the blonde chiester, not the one you mentioned.

>> No.25717636

>>25717568
Alas I don't know Nip. What makes the steam version better?
>>25717608
How is the 07th mod in general?

>> No.25717652

>>25717630
Oh shit you're right
I dunno then lol, probably just to be the fourth Punished Bunny because there's supposed to be four winchester rifles

>> No.25717656

>>25717608
>07th-mod has a music patch so that doesn't matter
Can you patch the music without patching anything else? I don't want immersion-breaking achievements or anything that ruins the original experience like soulless sprites or a stupid eroge textbox.

>> No.25717697

>>25717656
IMO Umineko sprites are good enough to keep, but Higurashi sprites are too...jarring.

>> No.25717737

>>25717636
>How is the 07th mod in general?
Does it matter? It does nothing but add shit that hurts the experience. Just patch the music and ignore it.

The Steam version isn't perfect, but it's the least ruined and the easiest to fix (mostly the music). The censorship is impossible to fix, though, which cheapens one of the best scenes.

>> No.25717762

>>25717656
07th-mod is modular. You can manually download just that patch without anything else.
If you dont want achievements, get it on gog or pirate. Then again, can't you disable those popups in steam?

>> No.25717798

>>25717737
>Does it matter?
Yes, that's why I asked you you negro.
What about the changes in the 07th mod ruins the VN?

>> No.25717829

>>25717697
They are at first, but you get used to them. Ryuukishi gives them ambigous expressions that are reused to express completely different emotions with the same face. The other sprites completely fail to replicate this and feel jarring as fuck when the expression doesn't match.

>> No.25717879

>>25717798
07th-mod lets you adds ps3 sprites, background, and voices as well as lip-sync which can be turned off in settings. Whether or not any of this ruins your experience is entirely up to you.

>> No.25717882

>>25717798
If you don't trust a passionate fan who wants you to have the best experience and is warning you about this shit, I don't know what to tell you.

Do you not trust the original author to know better than some third party company that made the new art?

>> No.25717909

>>25717879
>Whether or not any of this ruins your experience is entirely up to you.
Nothing ruins it, but they hurt it significantly for no fucking reason.

>> No.25717956

>>25717882
Nigger I'm not just gonna take you at your word, I need to know why you think these things.
I'm asking because I was under the impression the original sprites were only the way they were because he couldn't afford to get another artist to do 'em. If there's actualy artistic vision behind it then I understand.
>>25717829
I'll compare their expressions on the wiki and see which I prefer I guess

>> No.25718021

>>25717829
To expand on this, you'll have things like Rena blushing when she's feverish and losing her mind. In the original, this looked perfectly fine because the expression was ambiguous. The new sprites exaggerate every expression (while ironically making them more wooden and less expressive) to the point they don't work anymore. You'll see a feverish Rena blushing but using a sprite that is clearly and unambiguously just Rena hearing a perverted joke or something. They redid the sprites and exaggerated the emotions they portray at the beginning of the story, without considering how they are reused later on for completely different situations.

This happens with MANY different characters and facial expressions, including characters like Akasaka who become totally expressionless in scenes where he's was originally smiling and fooling around.

>> No.25718025

>>25717606
a poor girl choice without motives to kill 5 people
cmon anon

>> No.25718035

>>25718025
what

>> No.25718115

>>25717956
>I was under the impression the original sprites were only the way they were because he couldn't afford to get another artist to do 'em. If there's actualy artistic vision behind it then I understand.
These things are never black or white, it's a bit of both. He did the best he could with his limitations and made artistic choices with those in mind. And regardless, the professional artists that redid them later on totally failed to do a better job. They just didn't get it, despite being professionals and having more skill. It's a shame.

Comparing the sprites on a wiki will spoil you on certain characters like the culprit. And this isn't the kind of thing you can compare in a vacuum. The new sprites look fine, but they seriously fail to do their job in the context of the actual VN. Same with the new backgrounds.

>> No.25718140

>>25718115
Oh don't worry, I'm already totally spoiled.
The alternative thing to do is play through the first chapter one style and the second chapter the other, then choose. I think I'll do that tbqh.
Thoughts on the VA?

>> No.25718181

>>25718140
The VA is fantastic, but it kinda ruins the atmosphere of Higurashi and makes the carefully placed sound effects less scary, since you are hearing voices and shit all the time. I only recommend it as a curiosity, it seriously fucks with the intended atmosphere.

The CGs are particularly horrendous in general, I don't recommend them either. At least the ones in Umineko were generally good with only a few major fuck ups regarding Maria.

>> No.25718183

>>25717956
Not him, but what I can say about the sprites is that while r07 sucks at drawing and the quality of his sprites are shit, he's great at expressions. Something that the other sprites can't even get close to matching. There's also a kind of charm that you learn to love about r07's sprites.

PS3 cgs while nice at times can also be terrible. There is a few times that they go for the over-the-top "uguu kowai how scary!!!!" face instead of the subtly creepy. There's also a couple with laughably bad anatomy or perspective.

The ps3 backgrounds are better when it comes to the light hearted slice of life scenes, but r07's filtered photos pull through with the atmospheric horrir scenes.

Voices are fine for me, they dont elevate or hurt the experience. Lip-syncing is fine, but a lot of autists say it's distracting and ruins things.

Text box is entirely subjective. A lot of people try to push that it ruins r07's prose and emotional scenes with a lot of text. I feel that's complete bullshit and they're reaching. Most of the actual prose doesn't carry over in translation anyways and having a paragraph you've already read standing above another doesn't add anything.

>> No.25718285

>>25718183
I'd say the VAing also helps the light hearted scenes a bit, specially when K1's making a speech about russian porn or whatever. I hear some people say his voice is annoying but I actually really like it whenever he's super excited about something.

>> No.25718360

>>25717606
What the hell is wrong with Yasu? Drawing these lewd bunnies for his innocent 9 year old niece?

>> No.25718373

>>25718183
>Text box is entirely subjective
Remember how the original wall of text disappears for a second whenever a new sprite appears or one of them changes expression, to let you know who is talking or make you notice a subtle change in expression? This is totally intentional and doesn't work that well with that tiny textbox at the bottom. When a face has a subtle change, many players often fail to notice it because their attention is focused on the lower part of the screen, rather than on the screen as a whole, which is what made the wall of text so effective. I've seen several people on Youtube react to Umineko scenes and I can confirm it makes them miss out on subtle things like that, which are absolute impossible to miss with the original text display. Hell, the textbox makes the split second disappearance of the text feel pointless and annoying.

The lip sync is creepy as fuck because the sprites are supposed to represent what's happening, not actually show you every movement like an anime. The fact that the mouths move and everything else is static makes it jarring. Also, the mouths always close at the end of the line, so a reader will miss out on those epic scenes where a character yells or screams and their mouth is open. No, the character will close their mouth by the time you finished reading the line and looked up to see their face. And if you look at the mouth while it's flapping awkwardly, you see the inside but are wasting time not reading the actual text. It's awkward as fuck.

>> No.25718390

>>25717956
I hated the higu sprites at first and then got used to them. The mod lets you change the sprites even whlle reading, so you can experiment as much as you want.
>>25718181
>The VA is fantastic, but it kinda ruins the atmosphere of Higurashi and makes the carefully placed sound effects less scary, since you are hearing voices and shit all the time.
But Delicious's voice is ASMR.

>> No.25718404

>>25718181
>The VA is fantastic, but it kinda ruins the atmosphere of Higurashi and makes the carefully placed sound effects less scary
That was my impression of Umineko too. I liked the VA, but I realised if I didn't have it then the whole experience would be markedly different. All those subtle clocks ticking and footsteps creaking would really make a difference.
I've never been a fan of CGs tbqh

>> No.25718409

>>25718360
>What the hell is wrong with Yasu?
How much time do you have to listen?

>> No.25718601

Naima's armpit snake.

>> No.25718633

>>25717737
which scene was censored? the end of tatari?

>> No.25718645

>>25718373
Is this some form of an attention deficit disorder?
The wall of text disappearing to show new sprite expressions is only relevant for NVL because there's text covering everything, so you're given that split second to take in the information from their expression. In ADV you know there's a new expression every time you click the mouse or hit enter when a character is present and you're not reading internal dialogue. There's 0 reason for anybody not to see their expression change.

As for lip-sync, I've never, with any visual novel, felt that it was jarring. But again, that's subjective. I'm also able to notice a character's expression while I'm reading, it's not a 0 sum game where I'm either reading or looking at the sprite. Eyes can take in a lot of information. So a character's mouth being closed when they're done talking doesn't bother me because I was able to see it open while I was reading.

>> No.25718663

>>25718633
Yup. The voices also disappear suddenly during a bunch of long Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi scenes, because they were cut from the console releases for being too political and never got voiced.

>> No.25718665

>>25718633
Yeah, Satoko's nude sprites when she's on the bridge.

>> No.25718739

AllI western releases of Higurashi removed the minigames and the Ryuukishi commentary of the Question arcs, because they apparently had too many references to copyrighted material.

I'll never understand why a doujin product needs to be released as a commercial product in the west and censored accordingly.

>> No.25718851

>>25718409
Ok, that wasn't really a question.

>> No.25718913

>>25718360
more like
>What the hell is wrong with Yasu? Being adored and admired by his innocent 9 year old niece and brushing her off with a "s-sorry Maria, I'm not interested in you in that way."? what a faggot.

>> No.25718920

>>25718601
What's even the point of loli armpits? They aren't even remotely humiliating.

>> No.25718951

>>25718913
Why would Yasu be interested in someone who could easily be the author of Sonichu?

>> No.25718954

>>25645779
>proper traditional ladies school tailors their food to increase breast growth as much as possible
based

>> No.25718973

>>25718951
Yasu is just as autistic desu.

>> No.25719087

>"Wayned had half-believed that Alfred was a lizard in human form"
>turns out his own sprite is a slug wearing a mask

>> No.25719126

>>25718739
>AllI western releases of Higurashi removed the minigames and the Ryuukishi commentary of the Question arcs
Sorry, but the french version of Higurashi has all of this.

>> No.25720028

>>25718973
Yasu as Lion doesn't have autism whereas Maria has literal unironic clinical autism

>> No.25720063

Ciconia a negroworld

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>>25720028
Maria has some pretty high IQ monologues in 2 and 4. Her autistic kid personality is just a defense mechanism, it doesn't reflect her true potential.

>> No.25720107

>>25720073
No she literally has autism. She repeats nonsense words as a way of trying to get her emotions across (even if uu-uu turns out to have a function), she habitually repeats what she hears, she gets REALLY annoyed when things turn out not to be where she thinks they're supposed to be, she has completely abnormal responses to high stress environments, and she obsesses over the details of a certain field. Some of those things could be explained away as just character traits, but some of them are so specific that it's pretty clear she's supposed to have autism.

>> No.25720125

The fact that Maria can be diagnosed with autism is simply mindblowing. She's so cute, and yet she can just be diagnosed with a mental disorder listed in the DSM! There's nothing special about her, she's just another patient with a pathetic and disgusting ass! Lewd!

>> No.25720178

>>25720107
like I said, normal Maria embodies all the things you listed. the problem is that there are a ton of scenes where Maria suddenly starts using bigger words and complex grammar, interpreting other characters actions intelligently and empathetically and generally acting like a completely different person.

>> No.25720193

>>25720178
You're mistaking "autist" for meaning "retard", but it doesn't. You can be a smart kid and also be autistic. Her using bigger words doesn't nullify the scenes where she goes apeshit because her mum isn't in the room she expected her to be in and this makes her angry, or the rose isn't where it should be, or the key isn't where it should be.

>> No.25720325

>>25720107
She has Aspergers, which is like autism but smart instead of retarded. She's extremely intelligent.

The problem with spergs is that an abusive mother like Rosa can totally fuck them up. Rosa's beatings only make her more stubborn and unwilling to learn basic things she should know at her age.

>> No.25720382

>>25720178
Maria doesn't literally know Hebrew at her age, she just memorized a bunch of things to help Yasu with her plan. And she's no dumb kid either, she's an intelligent sperg fully aware of what "Beatrice" is doing. She just chooses to believe magic might be real because it makes her feel better, even though she knows it probably playing pretend.

>> No.25720422
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>>25720193
nah, autistic maria has trouble speaking in complete sentences, she doesn't understand the family relation between herself and battler, in other words she's actually written as retarded in those scenes. the discrepancy between that and witch-maria is too great to be discounted as situational autism, and Ryukishi even goes so far as to spell it out just for people like you.

>> No.25720502

This is why I hate people playing the PS3 version. They have a fundamental misunderstanding of Maria because Alchemist fucked everything up. She's not supposed to be a horrifying creep in EP1, she's not as expressive as the PS3 sprite makes her look, and she's definitely not oblivious to the true nature of the crimes. She's meant to be a really smart autist who is still clinging to childish delusions and willingly helping a suicidal murderer.

>> No.25720540

>>25720502
People have had these misunderstandings from the very beginning, you can't blame PS3 version on that. People are just retarded and don't understand all of what they're reading, I mean, have you seen the shit people believe in these threads?

>> No.25720575

Isn't it kinda obscene that Jessica's room has chairs? I mean, it's basically admitting that she's got an ass. Is that really the first thing you want to show to guests? What happened to the dignity of the Ushiromiya family, Natsuhi?

>> No.25720626

>>25720422
I literally cannot make it clearer to you that I'm not talking about Maria's personalities you fucking dunce

>> No.25720652

>>25720540
Why are so many of these fans incapable of understanding obvious implications and subtext? Even when Ryuukishi beats them over the head with it and repeats himself? The whole point of Umineko is implying things but never stating them outright no matter how obvious it gets. Even Bern's game practically confirms Shannon and Kanon are the same but never says so directly.

No wonder Hachijo fucking hates her own readers.

>> No.25720655

>>25720325
I thought aspergers was a type of autism

>> No.25720672

>>25720575
Jessica doesn't deserve humiliation.

>> No.25720690

Why did Maria die off-screen?

>> No.25720742

Tell me about Okonogi!
Why is he so powerful?

>> No.25720781

>>25720575
>"He slapped me in the ass with a wooden sword! On my ass, my ass! My maidenly, innocent ass!"
Jessica is either unaware of how pathetic it is to have an ass, or perfectly OK with it treating it as a matter of fact. One would imply she humiliates herself all the time by accident, and the other would mean she's accepted her humanity to the point she's comfortable with her ass and she views herself as a dirty animal without any shame.

>> No.25720795
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>>25720626
What part of "Maria doesn't have autism, one of her personalities does" is so difficult for you to understand? I'm not talking past you, I'm disagreeing with your position.

>> No.25720828

>>25720795
All of her personalities suffer from the same traits in >>25720107. Being an extreme chuuni is just her being an extreme chuuni.

>> No.25720857

>>25720690
If they showed her screaming and kicking her feet in a frenzy as Kyrie cuts her throat, the poor lady would be Gabriel tier and her appearance in EP8 would just piss us off. Kyrie doesn't need to be vilified like that.

>> No.25720870

>>25720857
but she literally did it

>> No.25720910

>>25720795
Did you skip the part where they explain Maria in EP7? What you posted was just George's theory. The explanation before Jessica's ghost story clearly says Maria is simply hiding her true personality most of the time because Rosa doesn't like it, and when she's not around Maria shows her true self and exaggerates it because it's the personality she wishes to have.

She doesn't literally have multiple personalities.

>> No.25720975

Are there any cameras on Rokkenjima? Kyrie is a very logical person, so it would make sense if she filmed a snuff movie while killing Jessica and then stripped her body naked before ending the video. The camera would be set up in the parlor before Jessica came in.

You can never have too much money and it makes sense she'd film it to sell for many, many monies in the back market.

>> No.25720998

>>25720975
>not torturing her anus beforehand and making her beg for her life on camera
What an idiot.

>> No.25721082

>>25720910
Ep7 isn't "objective" in that way.
Just like Kinzo gave his account of how he came to possess the Ushiromiya Gold, Maria doesn't reveal all of her secrets to will, but only as much and in the way she wants to. there's even a line about the game master moving her piece away. Jessica's perspective is just that: one characters opinion about the significance of another characters actions. It is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and explanations be heard.
Maria's answer arc is Ep4, where we get an intimate look into her inner world and see her construct her witch persona.

>> No.25721088

>>25720975
Would Jessica freak out if you went to a different timeline and showed her the video of her own torture?

Would it even be immoral if you managed to delete/overwrite the timeline out of existence while still keeping the video?

>> No.25721121

what happened to lion

>> No.25721136

>>25721121
died the death.

>> No.25721142

>>25721136
noooooooooo

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>>25720125
Well done.

>> No.25721809

>>25666776
Nina is not a slut, she's being forced by circumstance.

>>25673260
This one is a little whore though.

>> No.25722566

>>25712436
they both show the same amount of text. you really think they increased the number of text boxes by triple just to fit it into the lower third of the screen? it first came with the ps3 version which is high res HD and can fit it all
also i prefer it because it means you get unobscured sprites, not covered by text

>> No.25722845

https://twitter.com/faunakichi/status/1297205647797297152

>> No.25723294

>>25672378
good call

>> No.25723439

>>25722845
Nice, but
>she/her

>> No.25723862
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25723862

Is this the right room for the audition? I wonder, I wonder!

>> No.25724214

>>25723862
Rena about to get her face loliarse'd.

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