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beato paizuri
shannon naizuri
ange and beato double paizuri

ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

The real truth of umineko

Are Bernkastel and Lambdadelta... y'know...

>>25515306
Yes, they are into vore

>>25515306
Yes Bernkastle is the Battler's family culprit theory and Lambda is the online community of witch hunters
>see of fragments
INTERNET

>>25515611
Maria is 19?

>>25515744
but of course

>>25514789
>shannon naizuri
I want to cum in Kanon's collar thingy

>>25517330
a big girl

>>25517330
really love this feel

RGD is Ryukishi's magnum opus and you're not a true R07 fan until you read it. This is the undeniable truth.

>>25523414
based

>>25523414
That's debatable.
Still, stop spamming this shit.

>>25514708
A bit fun to see Lambda here cuz I just finished animating my drawing of her. If anybody else has ideas/WTC requests, I can work on them

>>25527785
Very nice drawing! have you done Erika?

>>25528075
I didn't, it's my first work like that. Tell me what background, movement, phrases would you like, so that I could animate it the same way and add some dialogue. Honestly I was struggling with coming up with good dialogue the most but text is the easiest thing to replace, so I can make a couple of versions for you

>>25528225
I'm really not creative enough to think about any good phrases and stuff, maybe someone else in the thread could help

>>25527785
>kapchynskyi
blyat! hello my dear friend

>>25528225
Erika with the classic detective costume, smoking a pipe while she points at you.
Background : Battler's closed room from Episode 6.

>~ Furudo Erika, The Great Detective ~
>This leek of Poirot is pale into insignificance next to me!

>Counter that : you're Kanon!
>Solve the closed room in my heart, and my heart will be all yours.

I hope it's good enough.

>>25531978
Feel free to change at your convenience.

>>25528225
something like Beatrice and ice cream instead of helltakers pancakes

>>25531846
Don't ruin my infiltration, comrade
>>25531978
>>25529294
>>25528225
Okay, I will start working on Erika and will reply to the OP-post in one of the future threads when I finish. Although it could take a while for me, a week or even more
>>25532256
I already have an idea for Beatrice but I am saving it because I want to improve my skills first. Butterflies in particular should be very fun to animate.

>>25527785
Erikantrice art pls

>>25531978
HOLY FUCKING KINO
ANON YOU HAVE LOVE AND CAN SEE IT

when will people admit that George hate is thinly veiled misandry?

>>25537553
when you get sex lmao

>>25537653
teach me how to be chad

>>25537672
just be yourself

>>25537553
when the blue birds cry

>>25537691
when the landwhales fly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R71Nz1hulP4
What would Rena listen to?

>>25537553
Wasn't George hated just because he was fat instead of being identified with an archetype that didn't even exist when the VN was written?

>>25538108
can't believe aniki is dead

>>25538108
fat george posting isn't necessarily the same as "GEORGE IS A DISGUSTING PEDO GROOMER INCEL" posting tho people who say the latter often engage in the first since shaming people for their looks is only wrong if said people aren't privileged men

>>25538479
I never said it was the same. The seething rage of the Aidens is almost making me like him and Shannon.

>>25537553
Nope
He Kinzo 2.0
Not a real man but a puppet in the hands of his family until a woman make him a real man

He is the culprit

>>25537831
1980s japanese mixtapes, naturally

>>25538971
Demon prince George is such a meme, it's downright hilarious. George killing his parents and the entire Ushiromiya family. That's fabulous! That's rich! But come on, man. Your theory has one fatal flaw: George is such a dork. Such a boring, spineless lightweight. Now, if you said Rosa or Maria... Otherwise, it was amusing.

What if Rosa secretly filmed Maria taking a shower and sold the tape to Successful Businessman Jooji? She needs to pay back her debts somehow. Assuming Maria never finds out and Jooji doesn't tell her, how exactly is her dignity being damaged in any way? Is Rosa even doing anything evil in this situation?

>>25539324
Why not Jessica? Maria's body is boring and predictable. A pathetic teen girl with an 80s bush is way more ridiculous to behold.

>>25539217
Van dyne rule: no professional criminals as culprits
There is nothing better than a saint turned into a monster

This is a mistery, the fake personality of people destroyed and show to everyone the real monster inside them

Stop judge people from look or you will be forever fraud by them

>>25539556
>This is a mistery,
actually it's a mystery

>>25539645
In italy we call this genre Yellow
So i can call it like i want since you english cucks never use the real name

He's still fucking here? Months gone by and he's still fucking here? How is one braindead piece of shit allowed to ruin a general like this?

I hope Ryukishi will make use of this quote in Ciconia.
>Nothing is lost, nothing is created, everything is transformed.

>>25539929
>nothing is lost
What >>25539890
about Ange's dignity?

>>25539890
Months? He is there for years, check the archives. It's a pity that he outlived Lambdadelta, I miss her walls of text

>>25540008
>For years
Really? When I'm searching "george is the culprit + erika" on warosu, the result start at late august 2019. It's only be a year, he himself say that he read Umineko not so long ago after he first posted his theory.
When Lambda-anon cease to post around the end of 2018, the threads starts to be a lot of humiliation posts.

I still wonder why I'm still here...

>>25540157
I thought you were talking about the humiliation anon.I am certain I saw him in 2018 or earlier

>>25540215
I was not them, though.
But humiliation anon did start earlier, it just got filled with this kind of post since Lambdanon get out of here.

>>25540008
don't know if its been years yet, but it's been at least a year now

>>25540215
humiliation anon has been here since the beginning

The trainee sprite at the left looks like Gunhild and the one at the right to Stanislaw.

>>25515611
>Umineko fans
More like your waifu is a dude, amirite?

>>25540157
Lambda anon is actually humiliation anon. He uses his genius for good or for evil depending on his mood.

No joke, they are the same guy.

>>25515611
Nice meme but it should have been "Your waifu is underage tranny", it makes no sense for Chadler to cry over a young pussy

>>25541030
I knew Lambdaanon on Discord and I am sure they are different people

>>25541070
>Lambdaanon on Discord
RIP

>>25534606
Good luck!

No clue why, but I have a VERY strong feeling that Tamura is gonna appear in some way shape or form in Ciconia. 34 is her miko and there are so many 34s, she's basically God and he's pretty relevant, she has feathers on her head and those appear a lot too. She also calls people child of man, so maybe Ryukishi is trying to troll us with the Factory Land scenes by making It seem like AuAu, and then BAM, it's this other weirdo only 10% of Ciconia fans know.

>>25545933
The other bitch is so much cuter. This one looks like a boy.

Is it just me who wishes Umineko Anime Remake? I really wanna see Answer Arc in motion.

Unrelated
https://youtu.be/ltR6Cbua_T8

>>25546684
>Is it just me who wishes Umineko Anime Remake?
Nope, there's too much story to tell, and the DEEN anime already shows its impossible to cram all that, unless you had 100 episodes, like some kind of old anime.
You could have a 2-cour anime with a single EP.

>>25545933
Never seen this character before, is this art official?

>>25547578
she's from Kami Kashimashi-hen in Higurashi Hou

>>25546684
fuck off

END OF THE GOLDEN WITCH ANIME NOW
I want erika animated

>>25547650
>Higurashi Hou
So, there's stuff post Matsuribayashi that's actually relevant?

>>25547819
There always has been?
Saikoroshi-hen from Rei in particular is.

>>25547815
I want Dlanor animated

Honest thoughts on this character?

>>25548221
has a nice ass I guess
outside of that, who cares, get fucked ya miserable little cunt, grow up and get over it

>>25548221
Inherited Kinzo worst trait (incest urges) was punished for it rightly so

>>25548221
1. fat heda
2) she bullied
4 culture of onii-chan

thats was my exlaining as to why agne is pathetic. please extrapolate your options.

>>25548221
she ruined the pacing of all the EPs she was featured in except for (3)

>>25548221
Ange's story and the meta-background of Witch Hunters (without Featherine in the picture, it gets good in EP6) was less interesting than the relationships of the main cast. Thanks god EP4 had some relevant Maria backstory because the pacing was bad.
Also, Ange has bad music tastes. Monochrome Clock is a good track

>>25547269
Why don't we split Umineko anime in the same way as Bakemonogatari?
Like, the first anime would be "Lgend of the Golden Witch", then "Turn of the Golden Witch" and so on.

>>25551833
Because that implies that the studio animating it would be making a huge commitment to a series that the Japanese Otaku have absolutely no interest in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3980&v=b6wV1DC0_zM&feature=emb_logo&fbclid=IwAR1bvS4aIjODeAm418sjXQyK0XP61g1OqFsSCVkgOT_J7PgPgjN49yLWe9U

One of us?

>>25553988
I'm not watching an hour of that shit, timestamp or gtfo

>>25554290
it was time stamped 4chan is retarded and ruined it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6wV1DC0_zM&t=66m22s

>>25554401
anon...

>>25554401
I don't give a shit.

>>25554401
everyone in this thread is a filthy EOP btw

>>25554401
well, I'm happy I understood most of that, and it does seem like she's actually a fan, but still. v-tubers are just vloggers with anime avatars. I don't get the appeal at all.

>>25539768
Knox: No chinamen in the story. They're icky and weird.

>In italy we call this genre Yellow
Yellow is for Chinamen. This Italy is not Knox, and Europe for what it means is not Knox.

>Beatrice is Italy
Think. If Beatrice was for Italy wouldn't it mean yellow Chinaman literature? But that's forbidden! Another chink in the Erikatrice theory! Erika is not yellow, she's not Italy, and she's perfectly the right color for Beatrice! Perfect Beatrice! Perfecto!

>>25554401
i love how there are multiple comments shitting on it and telling her to shut up about it, the japs truly don't care for Umineko

>>25554401
Too bad, she just read the manga. I hope she will read Chiru in VN format.

>>25554849
Japan only cares for higurashi, particularly the first three arcs everything else 07th is either completely unknown or considered a waste of time and shit.

>>25554401
Explain to me i dont understand

>>25555119
but the first three arcs don't even have the core character moments or any of the thematic resolutions

>>25555316
True and when I say the first three arcs I meant mostly the anime adaptation, it's literally only remembered for the killer lolis meme just like in the west.

>>25555213
She said that she read the first three episode of Umineko manga version. Then she explain the plot and what she thinks about it.

>>25555316
>Japan only cares for higurashi, particularly the first three arcs everything else 07th
They don't really understand things like "feelings" or "thematic resolutions". And I don't want to shit on them, because they definitely understand "that SJW crap is retarded", which is more that can be said of American media and audiences. They're just average, on a scale going from American to highly conscious, highly intellectual audience.

That's just the way it is. You need to balance your expectations.

>>25555381
And why we must care about her opinion?

>>25555467
Why do you care about anyone's opinion in this thread?

>>25555460
I wonder how something like crime and punishment was received when it was first released serially in a newspaper. Did people care about the characters and did they think about what their moral flaws signify? Did they speculate about the themes? Or did they just enjoy seeing the funny axe man try to justify and get away with murder on a weekly basis?

>>25551604
>Ange has bad music tastes

That's cute, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF41hdQKESw

>>25555460
>They don't really understand things like "feelings" or "thematic resolutions".
Even when the author is Japanese and there's nothing strange about his cultural background?

>>25555674
social workers actually have to deal with the problems the rest of japanese society likes to pretend don't exist

>>25555460
>They don't really understand things like "feelings" or "thematic resolutions".

You are talking about the Japanese otaku in particular right? Sometimes I think about Umineko and how unrelatable some of the themes and characters must be most of them.
When you think about it the VN embodies a lot of things that you could get angry about if you're someone who escapes the real world and real problems through anime and its related media.

>>25555460
>They don't really understand things like "feelings" or "thematic resolutions".

You are talking about the Japanese otaku in particular right? Sometimes I think about Umineko and how unrelatable some of the themes and characters must be for most of them.
When you think about it the VN embodies a lot of things that you could get angry about if you're someone who escapes the real world and real problems through anime and its related media.

>>25555691
I wonder where it says that Ryukishi was a social worker? Everyone claim that but are we sure?
What I've read about Ryu is that he first work an a clothing shop after dropping put of design/art college (he wanted to create games). Then he pass a competitive exam to work on a public secteur. He himself said that he write Higurashi during his job in tiny characters to not get caught doing something else. He was always worked up while writing it.
On his production journal, he sometimes talk about escorting a group of kids for a vacation.

>>25555691
I wonder where it says that Ryukishi was a social worker? Everyone claim that but are we sure?
What I've read about Ryu is that he first work an a clothing shop after dropping out of design/art college (he wanted to create games). Then he pass a competitive exam to work on a public secteur. He himself said that he write Higurashi during his job in tiny characters to not get caught doing something else. He was always worked up while writing it.
On his production journal, he sometimes talk about escorting a group of kids for a vacation.

>>25552254
I pretty sure that a Umineko anime (done right) would be popular now. At least, for the western audience.

>>25556226
>https://wiki.whentheycry.org/wiki/Ryukishi07#cite_note-business_hero-3
well, whatever the source was, it's a dead link

>>25539324
Why would anyone pay to see Maria's arse?

>>25556573
You overestimate the size of the western umineko fandom, its relevance and its profitability.

>>25555467
She's a jap girl with a hairy pussy. Her opinion matters.

>>25556226
>On his production journal, he sometimes talk about escorting a group of kids for a vacation
Isn't that the one where he thanks God for letting him see early middle school girls in swimsuits? How can one man be so fucking based?

>>25557006
If this is true I will post it on twitter trying to cancel him and rid the community of tumblr.

What scene(s) did Aci-l play in in Umineko?

>>25557328
>Aci-l
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoSsAxbv2vM&t=142m26s

I only remember this scene from memory but I think there might be one or two more.

>>25557352
joji confirmed for cute (fat) tomboy

>>25557392
Ah I knew it was at that scene. But I kept missing it because I kept skipping too far past it to when Totem blume started playing. Cheers

>>25541352
>>25541070

Meanwhile nobody remembers me while I regularly wall texted schizo tier theories about the Ryukishiverse eventually partially predicting a possible (if not a red herring) connections with new characters from ciconia with other characters from the other novels.

>>25557006
That journal is a goldmine. I'm glad to know Ryu isn't a brainwashed fuck.

>>25557078
God no. We need the moralfags to give him money.

>>25557720
Sorry. :(
It's just that avatarfag and repetition of the same kind of post are more memorable. Walls of text can be anyone.
But don't worry, it was not in vain!

>>25537831
Goddamn, Japanese music sucks ass. I feel for all the versions of the Higurashi crew who never got to hear Thriller.

>>25556905
Women's opinions are useless
Look what happened with Shkanontrice

No, Eva, stop bullying Natsuhi!

Did they ever explain what happened to Satoko's aunt's bank book?

>>25562110
It got Gaap'd.

>>25562110
maybe she had it with her at all times and Satoshi unwittingly dumped it in the swamp along with her corpse.

I liked Ciconia, but why was the OST so bad?
I think there were 3 tracks tops that were good, and the rest is forgettable. Did the guys who worked on Umineko's OST not work on Ciconia?

>>25562622
What did you expect? I thought the music was fitting for each scene. Something more catchy or memorable would've been out of place.

>>25562697
I mean, I wouldn't refer to Umineko's EP1 OST as catchy, but highly immersive, whereas in Ciconia it was just meh...

>that one speedreader who hated the solution to Umineko because he mistakenly thought Battler had reached the truth of life and the universe in EP5 and was disappointed when the explanation for the murders didn't involve some earth-shattering truth about existence itself
How stupid can someone be?

>>25562785
what are you on about?

>>25562785
Battler only find Kanon=Beatrice in epusode 5 not the full truth
This is why he get the logic error duuring the writing of episode 6

So what does Ange actually know about "arse" and what does this mean for her story arc as a whole?

>>25562891
Wrong, battler got the logic error because he acted like an overconfident retard and gave away retroactive use of sealing tape, he pretty much deserved it.

>>25557720
>>25557891
>>25541070

Reminder that Seshat is a self-aware AI that its using augmented reality to manipulate humans into a specific goal. She doesn't exist and probably represents the humanity slavery to advanced AI systems to dictate the decisions in their lives similar like we have today for economical systems.

Lambdaanon ghosted me and I still didn't read Borges :(

Humiliatiya Angste cagando in front of her bullies while crying bitter tears.

>>25563022
He get caugth because he didnt understoof that Erika is Kanon

why aren't the stakes more popular?

>>25565717
rabbits are superior

>>25565743
hard disagree, I always found that the chiesters designs were kind of a mess

>>25565717
For me? Luci-chan~

>>25565717
I played the entirety of Umineko thinking stakes were some kind of dagger (my english isn't 100% functional). So I thought their skirts were supposed to represent the little crossguard thing, their bodies were the handle and their legs were the sharp bit. When I learned they were just straight pointy things I got super disapointed.

Keith can go fuck himself. Piece of shit.

>>25565717
Most of them have a bad case of story irrelevance.
Every time they appear, it's either to thow one line before killing someone or to cuddle Sakutaro.
The only ones that really stand out are Leviathan (relationship with Kyrie), Mammon (relationship with Ange) and Lucifer (being the leader).
Unless you resonate with a specific sin or you care for the few plot relevance moments they get, I don't think people usually care for them.
Personnally I like Lucifer.

>>25565717
Asune has such a cute arse.

>>25565592
He literally became gamemaster at the end of Ep. 5 Teaparty because he figured out every secret of the board

>>25563022
EP6 was a forced Batman gambit scenario. I think Battler wished Erika will kill the women to create the logic error. This is a pro-argument for Erikatrice because Featherine stated Beatrice will move according to Battler's wishes and Erika may have unconsciously followed his plan. The fantasy side may be a trick to revive the true Beatrice but on the game board the true mastermind is still present and Battler was spared because he should solve Beatrice's murder scenario.

>>25563022
Batora didn't make the logic error on purpose, but he avoided solving it when he could.

>>25566987
He figure out the real truth behind beatrice but not the real truth behind Erika since the 5th game end without a winner

Can we all agree she's the best Ciconia girl?

>>25567129
>This is a pro-argument for Erikatrice because Featherine stated Beatrice will move according to Battler's wishes and Erika may have unconsciously followed his plan

Explain better
In my theory Ikuko/yasu stopped trying to make Battler remember after episode 4
So Battler with internet discover the witch hunter community (Lambda) and with End finnally understand and try to communicate with Ikuko by writing Dawn but he didnt knew that Erika was Kanon and create a logic error

What is in your theory?

>>25567952
Yes.

>>25567969
My theory (of Dawn)
Tohya used Erika as a scapegoat because he had put Beatrice in a new light. Eva-trice would have been another choice for a villian but Eva met with Tohya before that, so she wouldn't be a villian. Lambda and Bern are concepts, I think the meta-level isn't in any written story. I think Yasu has been given a new identity to hate but was kept a secret.

>>25567952
Gunhild is hotter and more mysterious.

>>25568485
For tohya you mean Ikuko or Battler?
>Tohya used Erika as a scapegoat because he had put Beatrice in a new light.
What mean?
Baetrice after episode 5 is already a good guy
>Lambda and Bern are concepts
What concepts?
>think the meta-level isn't in any written story
By the dialogue with Ikuko and Ange meta was written inside dawn
>Yasu has been given a new identity to hate but was kept a secret.
For a new identity you mean Erika?

Sorry for be so stupid but i want understand very well

So did Jeanne purge all the anti-Rose motherfuckers after she took over?

>>25568657
didn't she say that she focused on expansion and neglected to carry on the spirit of prima vera to the next generation? I think those niggers probably got off scot free.

>It is forbidden for a servant to be the culprit!
Ryukishi07: "I actually inserted that Red to test whether a player had understood the true culprit in the fullest sense. People who did not understand would clearly be misled."

It's just sad, he will never accept the truth. It was handled in such a beautiful way and this is the result.

>>25568657
Alfred should be fucking dead in a ditch, that's for sure.

>>25568763
>It was handled in such a beautiful way
debatable desu

>>25568786
You can put that fucker Keith in there as well.

Keiichi with Ciconia's virtual room creator stuff would be the most powerful character in WTC. You'd need a fragment sea three times as big to hold all the possibilities.

>>25569503
I need Keiichi to be in Ciconia so bad

>>25569556
He's the kid that gets himself killed for the propaganda movie.

Has anybody ripped the RGD fight CGs? They are all so damn good. Even the goons get a bunch of cool ones.

>>25569780
Is it not in the Mega in the OP? Check the sprites and CGs for RGD. If what you're talking about isn't there. use this one app called GARviewer that allows you to rip just about everything from a VN.
https://github.com/morkt/GARbro

I don't know if this has been discussed here before or not since I don't lurk around /jp/ too often. There's this Higurashi Android port that is a better in every way compared to VNDS. 07th mod prepatched, voices and everything. The original apk only had ps2 sprites though, so I modified it with the OG sprites (except for the ones that didn't have a spriteset in the original release).

PS2 Sprites:
https://mega.nz/file/2KoVUDiS#DDxGZWlEFcvGICBv9drIRsB_EOnnVQIORnuUlwqq-o0

OG Sprites:
https://mega.nz/file/re5xhRYS#bhPR9wGVg77uBFHz4Jle8O6fMxwkh-voa3OouHqqzMc

Didn't playtest my modified version though, but all I did was swap out sprites so there shouldn't be any issues anyway. You can hide the status- and taskbar btw, I just put them into the screenshot so nobody calls bait

>>25570216
>07th mod prepatched

>>25570373
Oh yeah forgot to mention, no goofy ass lip syncing in the ps2 version either. Honestly just look up Onikakushi Android on YouTube or whatever, you should be able to find the original release. Can't be assed to look it up myself rn

>>25570373
>>25570427
Lip syncing is easily turned off in the menu

I just finished Umineko. I don't really have anything else to say, I just needed to say something.

>>25570565
Did you like it?

How did battler irl remembered all the fantasy characters? Did he somehow had the memories of the GM battler? How tf

>>25570582
For the most part, yeah
I didn't like the Tohya ending though. Maybe I'll change my mind when I've thought about it longer, but it just felt anticlimactic for no real reason.

>>25570593
He wrote the whole thing.

Some of the shit in RGD is far more haunting than any of the ghastly murders in Umineko or Higurashi. I had to quit reading for a week. Fuck snipers.

Ciconia is a post-RGD work, which means Ryu has the balls to give lovable characters the most fucked up fates imaginable and piss you off. I'm sure something horrific awaits Miyao and Jayden.

>>25570565
https://nyaa.si/view/1252032
Play last note whenever you feel like you have a good grasp on shit.

Also with Saku i've been told that Our Confession ruins everything and you turn into a goat and say it's truth if you read it, is this true anons?

>>25570898
I'll check all the spinoff stuff out for sure.
Also, why do people hate George so much? Is it literally just based off the theory that he hid Battler's letter to Sayo?

When will tumblrinas learn that red and orange are just another crazy anime hair color and doesn't mean the character is an ugly ass ginger or represents any real life genetics? Stop drawing them with freckles and shit! They are not gingers, they are anime people with colored hair!

>>25571365
battler couldn't enter the golden land because he was a ginger and had no soul

>>25546684
Umineko with a full drawn animation no 3D with less framerate just like the 80s type of feeling but not lacking quality with the modern draw style with a realistic approach besides the hair colors and so on.
Pace of the anime would be less about how crazy the characters look when they get emotional freakouts and a more serious tone on the story and more chill.

That music is never unrelated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJO6aNH3I48
I miss this idiot so much.

>>25556226
Where can I read his production journal?

>>25570216
Is there a version with the original backgrounds?

>>25540008
Yeah well I'm still here (once in a while).
>>25563161
We can talk when/where ever you want

>>25571749
>>25571749
Personally haven't done it, but it shouldn't be a too hard to change them. You have to open the .apk with winrar and swap the current bgs with the original ones. Don't forget to rename the original bgs with the filenames of their equivalent new bgs and make sure you have them in the same aspect ratio and size. I think it was 1280 x 720, but don't quote me on that. When you're done, you'll have to delete the current apk certificate and re-sign it. Do this by deleting the .cert, .sf and .mf files in the META-INF folder. For re-signing, you'll need to download Android Studio and the Java Development Kit. Then you can use this tool
https://shatter-box.com/de/knowledgebase/android-apk-signing-tool-v2-apksigner/

Which is basically does everything for you, as long as you follow the guide on their website.

When you have your signed apk ready, move it to your phone and install it from a file explorer. Sounds complicated at first, but even somebody like me (who has zero (0) experience in mobile web development) was able to do it in like 20 minutes after I figured out how.

>>25572201
You still ghosted me on discord then? At least it seems.

>>25571522
I believe someone posted the link at some point. A long time ago.

Just finished umineko without anyone spoiling anything and this is the only VN ill ever read. It was fucking amazing and it made me cry at the end. Perfection.

>>25573273
Nice to hear you've enjoy it,
I reccomend reading Umineko Saku now and the you should give Higurashi a try.

>>25573273
Definitely give the other R07 works a try. Ciconia and Higu are great.

>>25574121
No love for Higanbana and RGD huh.

>>25574199
I didn't really mean to disclude them, I just haven't read them yet. Will probably start RGD next week.

>>25574212
If you like Ciconia then you will surely also enjoy RGD. At least I think they're very similar.

>>25537553
Lose weight George you fat fuck

>>25568763
Yes he test the player and they belive that Genji could kill

Really we betrayl me
Stop thinking and accept the most credible lie

>>25570565
Then now read Erikantrice manifesto and discover the real truth of umineko
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

>>25573273
Now read Erikantrice manifesto and discover the real truth of umineko
Erika is Kanon
Logic error solution is
Erika become Kanon,save Battler and return erika

lol

>>25576199
Person = body
Wrong translation

>>25538108
Nice guys absolutely existed as an archetype when the VN was written.

So I downloaded the sprites archive from the mega and saw the part of the neck for this sprite that gets covered by the head has this face drawn on it. Wasn't sure if the person who uploaded it was just fucking around, so I ripped the files myself from the vn, and sure enough, it was there originally.

>>25573722
>>25573273
Also, don't forget to read Tsubasa and Hane for additional tips! Everything should be on the OP link.

>>25579279
modern-day primavera is aliens wearing face masks and body suits confirmed.

>>25579279
>>25580677
"THEY"

>>25579279
damn, from the thumbnail i thought this was something more gory.

>>25557352
>*cackle*cackle*cackle*cackle* From now on, you will be my servants for the rest of your lives!

>>25582667
That's what I wished for...

>>25573173
You'll prob have to remind me who you were but yes I might have just, not on a personal level.

>>25583661
I literally posted the hint about who I was on my post. If you don't remember its better not to add again and we put all behind us
>until we meet again when something else cries

>>25579279
>Wayne is keropoyo

If you have done a full reread of Umineko, have you noticed some differences between the episodes written by Yasu and those written by Tohya besides Beatrice's character? Kanon and Shannon's interactions with Battler, for example?

>>25585068
No.

>>25585068
A lot. EP3 is the first time Battler narrates any meta world scene. And Kinzo becomes less of an incomprehensible madman. The siblings become less douchy too.

The first two episodes are very different in how they portray the characters. It's a cool way of showing how Yasu feels about them.

>>25585068
Ikuko worte them all except the 6th

>>25585428
I never thought about that.
Jesus I love you.

If Zel is so cute, how come her arse is fat?

>>25587626
I'm pretty sure Zel doesn't have any curves.

>>25587890
Have you seen her wearing a slutty party dress in the manga?

>>25568565
Sorry for the late reply.
>For tohya you mean Ikuko or Battler?
I meant the latter, amnesiac Battler.
>What mean?
Baetrice after episode 5 is already a good guy
>guy
kek. That's what I meant. The introduction of a new villian rises the sympathy for Beatrice. See the whole " The North Wind and the Sun" analogy Beatrice abused in EP3.
>What concepts?
Lambda=Certainty + Bern=Miracle
>By the dialogue with Ikuko and Ange meta was written inside dawn
I wrote that because I don't think they never show up in any Forgery and the meta-level was exclusive to Battler and Ange (and the VN reader). Or other elements are characters' recollection and interludes like Ange's journey or reading Maria's diary. For example, all of Alliance isn't a forgery because we read about Ange and the meta-level, too.
>For a new identity you mean Erika?
Yes, in my theory Tohya just throw a random girl into the scene, destroyed the reputation of a deceased. He did it with his own aunts, too. I don't know if he's aware of the
consequences, I guess it's a higher motive I can't understand. Battler's message to Ange in EP8 is a different one than the contents of Tohya's writings (everyone is the culprit). Maybe it was an attempt to hide the true identity of Beatrice (you know, she belongs to him). That would make sense on the gameboard since you can apply Erika=Yasu logic here. No wonder game 5 and 6 have open endings because it will be harder to elaborate the games until the last twilights (because of Erika).

>>25588705
Lambdadelta concept is Faith and Willpower and Higher Intuition. Bern is Rationality through cause and effect Logic.
This doesn't mean they do not use each other tools many times because with the Yin Yang philosophy polarity can interconnect and its what makes them the perfect balance.

>>25588705
Thanks now i understand your theory(maybe).

Well logically slowy Beatrice pass from the ruthless villain (Erika type) from the princess to save and for you is future Battler fault, for you future Battler wrote ep5 and 6.

So why?
Why he wrote it for what reason?
I want know it pls

>Lambda=Certainty + Bern=Miracle
Ying and yang are very good ideas for them.
Different type to reasoning for a mystery
Good idea anon then pls explaine why Lambda is a Beato friend and helped her and Battler meanwhile Bern wanted destroy them?
>Yes, in my theory Tohya just throw a random girl into the scene
Here i cant understand his motive
Then where is ikuko in your theory
Battler lose memory
How can he write everything alone?
>That would make sense on the gameboard since you can apply Erika=Yasu logic here. No wonder game 5 and 6 have open endings
In my theory ep 5 and 6 have open endings because Erika's Goal was not kill everyone but accuse Natsuhi and Battler

I love 7th sluts

>>25590089
Not the same anon but I'll try to explain how I see Lambdadelta and Beato.

Imagine Beato was the one choosing Lambdadelta because she choose the same perspective and methods Lambdadelta would use. So Beato choose the concepts and Lambdadelta choose Beato because of it. This is why Battler kinda joined with Bern in the beginning (please correct me I don't remember well) and Ange joined Bern too because they were reaching for a realistic approach to solve the mysteries.

>>25590521
Ok thanks i understand

>>25590159
Are any of them truly sluts?

>>25590555
Hope you do don't be ashamed of asking more even with broken english.

>>25590629
What?
I just wanted know new theories

>>25590644
Nevermind then just don't be shy because of broken english thats all.

>>25590706
I am not shy stop
I literrally replay to everyone

>>25585068
Battler is more immature and more of a pervert in EP1-2. This is probably because Sayo is writing based on 12 y/o Battler, not 18 y/o Battler.

>>25555776
>When you think about it the VN embodies a lot of things that you could get angry about if you're someone who escapes the real world and real problems through anime and its related media.
That's subjective. I like the mansion and the feeling of "nobility", it makes for a very comfy atmosphere despite everything.
>>25591447
And because Sayo-Shannon and Sayo-Kanon want Battler's dick.

>>25591447
Can anyone enlighten me where its implied that the arcs are people actually writing the story?

Is it possible to play Umineko on Android?

>>25592157
Ikuko's introduction in EP 6 where Ange literally says so

>>25592219
In a kind of our own perspective, as readers of the VN, would we actually believe to be what is actually happening? What I mean is something like how we just accept Hanyu to be just a spirit and god maybe she is actually an alien instead.

>>25592308
It is implied that Hanyuu is a 5th dimensional ayy

What does it mean when your loli cousin replies "lmslao" to a joke?

>>25593112
Also heavy implied that shes just a regular shinto kami. Its less implied that shes ayylmao and could be what actually she is. This is what I mean about the implications and I am trying to understand the weight in umineko about the arcs being fanfictions about an event sort of.

George is a fat fuck incel.

>>25593157
laughing my scrawny loli ass off, clearly.

>>25593419
mogs me

>>25593157
lick my slipppery labia asap onii-chan

>>25593157
She's laughing her smelly loli arse off. Kinda pathetic and humiliating that she's admitting to the ridiculousness of the human condition despite being a cute girl.

>>25593389
>This is what I mean about the implications and I am trying to understand the weight in umineko about the arcs being fanfictions about an event sort of.
It's not implied, it's part of the story. The first two episodes are stories Yasu wrote and threw into the sea. The 3 to 6 are fiction by Hachijo Tohya. 7 and 8 are unclear but they probably don't exist in-universe.

This stuff isn't implied, it's stated as fact several times and serves as a plot point a couple of times.

Does anything in Toratsugu's design or speech hint at who his grandma might be? The advisor is hella old, so maybe he outlived his wife because she drank too much alcohol during her youth?

>>25594244
She might be a random girl, but they implied she had shown up in the story. Keeping it secret from the reader would make sense even if it was someone random, but they acted as if Julie would find it interesting if they told her. So it can't be a meaningless random person.

The hot 14yo chinklet is discarded for obvious reasons. They don't even speak the same language.

Hotaru is a pure Jap (IIRC), but it would be weird if her former boss who is a good 7 years older came in and seduced her. The others would have no chance whatsoever if they had to compete with aniki, that's unfair. I also like to think Hotaru took her friends with her to Argentina or whatever and had them become part of her family. I mean, Nina isn't cut out to be a whore and Charles wasted his time training to become the right hand man of a strangled corpse. I'd get the fuck away from all that mafia shit and live with my refugee friend in South America.

Claudia had some interaction with the guy early on and they might be meeting off-screen. But it was during a kidnapping, so they probably aren't that close. She's the only one who is neither a whore with a broken anus or an uneducated street rat with a potty mouth, though.

Miyoko made a promise with him and shit, so it's possible they got closer after she hit her 30s and decided to quit her job. This is the most likely girl to be his waifu.

>>25593964
Ok it makes more sense to me now. Its like we are watching a TV show and then the show looks different and then again because the scriptwriters are being replaced by others without us the viewers knowing about it.

Reminder that you will never be able to truly understand Umineko if you aren't a woman. R07 said so himself.

>R: I have this feeling that most of the people who arrived at the truth were women, because the key is being able to imagine Yasu’s feelings. Umineko is something that cannot be read by people who never fell in love with somebody. It is something that people who have no experience in love and relationships have trouble understanding. “Love can become a motive that has more power over you than life or death”, that is something which is pretty hard to explain to people without this experience. Most of them will think that it’s just “an overdone motive”. But for people who have known love and experienced how much it can make you suffer, they understand that love can turn your world upside down. If you are told “I will come for you again!” and for 6 years there is nothing, it can make you go crazy, but people who have even slightly suffered due to love will say “those 6 years must have been hell”. But people who no nothing of that pain will probably wait for nothing less than a dramatic gadget to appear, like the heroic story of “at age X her mother and father were brutally murdered”.

>>25594975
Ryukishi doesn't realize that it is men that are actually able to truly fall in love and have the unconditional romantic feelings that resemble what most people would call "love". Women can only achieve similar feelings to that towards their children.

>>25594736
Something like that. Keep in mind that the Yasu ones are written as plans for the crime, while the Tohya ones are written after the fact and incorporate some clues about the real events that took place. The tone of the story also changes between authors.

The Yasu ones are written from the perspective of someone who is on the verge of suicide, wants to mercy kill her loved ones and hates the rest of the cast. Her opinion of Kinzo is so conflicted and confused, she can't really write him as anything but an insane caricature who does evil things for seemingly no reason. She doesn't understand the guy at all. Also, her plans always go perfectly and random chance never gets in the way, because she is the "god" of those two stories and made everything happen that way. Wouldn't make sense to write a murder plan that fails halfway through.

The Tohya ones are written from the perspective of someone who loves family, understands their flaws and is also quite confused about what truly happened (he has Battler's memories, but Battler was pretty out of the loop during the island events, although Yasu told him about her secret identities and plan on the third day). The stories incorporate popular conspiracy theories (like the Eva culprits theory), as Tohya is trying to figure out what the hell happened back then. Since they are written after the fact and not as plans, things like chance do fuck up Yasu's script (like when Eva accidentally kills Rosa or refuses to announce she solved the epitaph). He uses the "test from Kinzo" that he heard from Kyrie over the phone to create the plot for Alliance, writing it as one of Yasu's plots since he had no idea Kyrie just made it up. And his stories slowly humanize the siblings and paint Beatrice as a sympathetic villain, because he's trying to apologize to Yasu by immortalizing her in these stories and communicate her heart to the few who figure out the truth of each tale.

EP5 and EP6 probably had more input from Ikuko than Tohya. Both episodes start in the middle of the action (parlor accusation and wedding) before going back to the beginning, which is how IKUKO/FEATHERINE likes to write stories (she said so herself when she killed Lambda). Erika is probably her self insert in a way, since she's a mystery nut well acquainted with the Rokkenjima mystery, obscure trivia like Erika's disappearance and mystery rules in general.

EP7 and EP8 don't necessarily exist as stories, but maybe they do. EP7 could be an ideal world for Yasu that Tohya wrote for her as an apology, trying to free himself from Battler's guilt. Probably not published, though. While the Halloween party with Ange could be something he wrote for her (there is the theory that the EP8 Tea Party is something Tohya wrote for Ange after the final scene in the Fukuin house, as a gift, meaning EP8's end and beginning overlap).

>>25595151
>Ryukishi doesn't realize that it is men that are actually able to truly fall in love and have the unconditional romantic feelings that resemble what most people would call "love". Women can only achieve similar feelings to that towards their children.
And that's why he made the female villain actually a male eunuch. Her body might be a prepubescent, ambiguous wreck, but the chromosomes are there.

>>25595156
>EP8 Tea Party
Whoops, I meant the halloween party. The tea party has nothing to do with it.

>>25594975
>>25595151
>>25595166

Ryukishi didn't realise that he was a male creating this story more likely, he said and thinks that women statistically would find the solution first because of the theoretical idea of the woman being more empathetic which we believe nowadays its not statistically true. I believe that making this eunuch would give a chance that being a male, incapable of being physically a male, lacking male puberty, would give that lack of testosterone development a chance of being closer to having a womans average perspective due to brain development as well. This way its like giving sort of a equal chance to male and female readers to get some empathy and figure out the truth. Well Ryukishi tried doesn't mean he was successful with that strategy and ends up with the conclusion that females would get there first because Yasu being more feminine sort of most of the time. Ryukishi is a male himself so he would have to put himself on female shoes and mindset to be able to write his story properly as well.
On other note in Ciconia I hope he will portrait the androgynous theme well enough to kick nu-LGBT SJW into thinking hes pandering to their degenerate agenda.

>>25595217
Yea I know that one. In the end it seems like its sort of a "The victorious write history" kind of conclusion about Umineko as we can see in our own Human history. In fact very well done as Ciconia takes that theme right in the beginning as something for this to be continued and even enforcing connections between novels.

Can't help but feel the concept for Ciconia was originally meant to be applied as a sequel to Rose Guns Days with Julie as the protagonist

>>25595454
I mean tbf Ryukishi's works always use themes from past works, so kinda all of his stories are like that. You could for example say that RGD was originally a prequel to Umineko with Okonogi as the protagonist or something similar.

>>25595516
I'd say these two have the strongest connection though. Even more than Higu and Umi.

Phase 2 will turn out to be a fully-fledged Quake game. The story will take place after the meat factory (baby's first stroggification) where their minds and bodies are enslaved in the process. After the stroggification, they will be forced to fight against humans in WW4

I wonder if we're going to get a Phase 2 demo before release, I wonder.

>>25595402
>androgynous theme
Is Miyao even androgynous? To me, he clearly looks like an underdeveloped female teenager. There is nothing ambiguous or unusual about his appearance.

Meow said that her sex isn't one that would bother Jayden at all, but she refuses to reveal it because it would affect Miyao. Clearly Miyao is insecure about having a pussy and constantly needs to reaffirm his masculinity, despite looking like a twink and barely passing as a guy. Hell, Jayden was raised in a SJW hellhole of a nation, he obviously isn't homophobic. He isn't gay either because the idea of Meow possibly having a dick disturbs him. And yet, he's obsessed with Miyao since the beginning without really knowing why. It's because Miyao is a chick and Jayden unconsciously notices it, despite thinking of him as a guy.

This is what happens when you train your kid to intentionally develop super-DID and permanently fuck up her brain's development. Weaponized mental illness in the name of flying through the sky.

In short, I think Miyao is the main personality because he's more proactive and Meow is a passive nerd. He's ashamed of having a pussy and people finding out. Both are natural personalities and blueyao is a program installed in their selcom to drive them insane.

>>25595745
Sure would be nice.

>>25595516
RGD is basically the second to last story in Higanbana made into a mafia plot instead of a bullying one.

>>25595745
RGD got a demo for every Season before the release. Maybe it will be the case for Ciconia.

>>25595753
Don't call my waifu a mental illness!

>>25595781
>every Season
each* Season, I mean

>>25595753
Miyao being female would also explain why he's not perverted like the other WTC protagonists, even though he clearly finds Lingji and Maricarmen attractive.

>>25595846
I don't blame him at all.

For me, It's male Erika. Just really love the guy.

>>25595636
>>25563161
Factory might be a strong analogy for what it could be happening. Imagine like one of those artistic videos criticising society with cellphones being literally used as food and people vomiting blood because they were not aware of how enslaved they were by technology and even forget to eat.

>>25595753
Lets call it androgynous in a general term not just physical besides we are using the drawings as a way of judging that instead of the perspective of the characters that would actually have all the details like we have in real life. I also agree with how Miyao and Meow goes with the gender because of saying it wouldn't bother Jayden, but as you also said, all of that would mean that Jayden wouldn't care about the dick because of being SJW'd by society which would be kinda pointless to even mentioning Miyao sex to not being a bother for Jayden. Since Jayden actually was worried about the whole thing, this means Jayden would worry about a dick there and Meow assures basically that there is not dick.

>>25595846
Thats also a nice hint.

>kills innocent journalist who was trying to expose the corruption of the American military
>calls him a cockroach and celebrates the murder with his buddy
>"noooooo leave my waifu alone!"
Literal satans and hypocrites.

>>25563161
>Lambdaanon
he was too good for these threads

>>25595753
Hmm I remember feeling a bit frustrated about that aspect of the plot, mainly because of how much they stretched that question, I hope it gets resolved soon, but I can see it being important for the plot.
>>25595875
He is male Erika and male american Hanyuu at the same time.

>>25595913
Based.

>>25595874
Commie pigs will get you infected with corona.

>>25595753
Damn, imagine trying to be a badass and having a pussy that is meant to be fucked. No wonder Miyao gets angry at the slightest hint of someone mistaking him for a girl.

>>25595753
I think Miyao is a fucking cunt for putting his stupid masculine pride above Meow's happiness. Imagine not being able to have real friends and people ignoring your existence while Miyao gets all the credit for anything you say.

>>25595753
Another thing that would confirm Miyao is a girl is the heavy theme of reproduction present throughout the story and a couple tips. The series is named after storks, for fuck's sake.

I predict an EVA style ending where Jayden and Miyao are the last survivors and must repopulate the Earth as the new Adam and Eve.

>>25595930
>he

>>25595941
>aristocratic nobility
>commie
???

>>25596092
Isn't that what the Kings want though? That seems like the opposite of what the ending should be

>>25596098
>Communist China
>Heavy capitalist country
???????
Open eyes anon.

>>25595913
RGD spoilers Keith's clinginess is probably a result of trauma, which develops into full blown mental illness when he clings to the wrong person and absorbs his negative state of mind. Once again, Tomitake made the mistake of trusting an obviously insane person.

>>25595966
I like how many WTC characters get absolutely triggered by certain things, such as implying that Kinzo cheated on his wife, denying Beatrice, asking about Maria's age, etc.

I want Miyao to have a dick and I want to plow him over various furniture pieces.

>>25596201
Why are chinks commies at heart while also valuing their ancient and rich culture? Don't they realize communism eventually destroys all the culture of a nation? What a fucking waste. Simplified Chinese is also bullshit. So ugly.

>>25596285
You are very smart. I also want him to have a dick.

>>25596339
Miyao wishes he had a dick, too.

>>25596327
Because they are automated and don't think properly and just want to conquer the world.

creampieing male miyao

>>25596098
What's the point of being aristocratic nobility if she still has an ass and a hairy pussy no different from those of a peasant?

>>25596644
I want Maricarmen to smother me with her ass!

>>25596671
Brazilian Bidoreechay and Rikacando.

>>25596671
inb4 Maricarmen is trans because of marica
to be honest its probably a mix of Maria and Carmen

>>25595940
I wonder who is more of a scumbag between Rudorofu and Butler. Ignoring the whole EP7 tea party thing.

>>25596738
Did the Marica thing get changed in Japanese too? Probably not.

I mean, it makes total sense because Marika is a Japanese name and she's trying to make her Spanish name easier for this Jap kid to pronounce. It meaning sissy is just a fun bonus.

>>25596808
She's the Rika expy.

>>25596844
rundown on this anon???

>>25596901
blue hair
ma(rica)

Lmao I went on the umineko subreddit and there's a bunch of nigs who think Rosa is Beatrice
How do you get through episode 7 and think that

>>25596937
there's people who got through episode 7 and the manga that think erika is beatrice

>>25596937
Umineko is not a reddit thing so the fanbase there should be ignored probably larpers.

>>25596961
>Umineko is not a reddit thing
lol

>>25596738
>>25596808
Well even if "Marica" could mean sissy or fag in Spanish, that word comes from the name "Maria" is like a diminutive of that name.
Also, the name "Maricarmen" comes from "Maria del Carmen" so the "Marica" nickname makes sense in both a Japanese way and in an Spanish way.
Kinda sad that a bunch of SJW got triggered because of that, without even understanding where the word came from.

Mariaは

She justは

It was only natural. She fell like a puppet with its strings cut. A blooming red rose spread under her broken skull. Then, as a very, very natural result, Rosa screamed at the heavens like an opera singer......... no, like a mama wolf.

"UUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH"

Rosaのvoiceless scream filled the cathedral. She readied her winchester rifle and loaded three .410 caliber bullets. The goats' huge bodies fell on top of each other like domino tiles......... no, like Mahjong tiles......... no, like bowling pins......... no, like chess pieces......... no, like......... *glass shatters*

Bernkastel and Lambdadelta had wry smiles on their faces as they pushed down the walls of peace. One of the walls fell and pierced a goat's medulla oblongata. The witches cackled and pushed the other wall, which crushed their fellow countrymen. This scene could be compared to a game of chess or shogi.

>>25596995
Nobody got triggered though. They just laughed at it since it means faggot and that it was even more ironic that Marica is supposed to be from Mexico where it means faggot.
There's a reason why Mexicans find this clip hilarious (european spanish dub)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgpH-8W-Eyc

>>25597013
Ah fuck it's ALMOST perfect, you just forgot the thing where a character enter a place with no people in them and says they're entering another dimention or something like that

https://youtu.be/yWiZ9e2XBKE

0:45. Probably the best Umineko related meme in Spanish. The idea of Maria throwing the house key and getting beat up is fucking hilarious.

>>25597043
Some people got triggered, or at least I stumbled upon some of them, maybe because the only person I know irl that likes WTC games is a big SJW and he got pretty triggered about it.
IIRC Marica is used in all spanish variations, even European Spanish I bet they left it there because it sounded funny.
>>25597127
Top
A Spanish friend of mine recently sent me this spanish meme, I don't know the source but the voice of Beatrice just sounds so fitting.
https://streamable.com/eaauno

>>25597185
Lmao, that's Ursula's voice. She's ironically voiced by a drag queen in Latin Spanish.

>>25597127
D-Did she just call her cute daughter kimochi warui?

>>25597185
>SJW
>person

Why does it feel like there are two types of Okonogi?

Higurashi and RGD Okonogi are pieces of shit with beady eyes, the sprites look directly at the screen, they have pointy noses, their arms are in a more dynamic pose, their jobs involve illegal shit, murder and bribery, and they are both hardened soldiers with a love for violence. They also kill a certain someone in an empty room under the orders of a mentally unwell character.

Umineko and Ciconia Okonogi are jerks with a heart of gold, their eyes show more emotion, their sprites face to the side, their noses are more like hooks, their arms are down in stocky R07 fashion, they have honest jobs operating under the law, and they are both chill dudes who give motivational speeches to young girls.

It's like there is a piece of fucking shit gremlin Okonogi template and a likeable boomer Okonogi template.

>>25598313
>inb4 Oggonogi kills Miyao's dad while his selcom is possessed by Vier (forma keropoyo)

So what's the deal with Madam Jeanne having a literal portrait of Higanbana in her office? It's such a random reference.

>>25598433
It's not Luci-nee?

>>25598433
Probably a weird gift from an art collector. Butler also got a lot of shit he didn't want and only kept for bribes.

>>25598433
At first I thought it was her as a young lady. Speaking of that, the Umineko anime really fucked up giving middle aged Kinzo brown hair.

>>25598407
>forma del pepe la rana

Anyone got interesting Ciconia theories? Finished it not too long ago and wanna read up on stuff while my interest is still high. Phase 2 when r07 you lazy old man.

Still would fuck these jews.

>>25595930
I grew into accepting that fate myself it truly feels when one goes north the other goes south thing.

>>25598462
Now this has to be a fucking edit. If not, this must be hidden foreshadowing for Ryu's current slug mascot thing he uses as an avatar, which looks a bit like Keropoyo. Speaking of that damn slug, it's probably the most obscure thing about these stories aside from the piss easy mystery who ate Hideyoshi's bag of candy in the airport scenes.

Apparently, the slug is 07thExpansion's mascot now? And he is very prominent as a... monster in Wanyadora, a game that apparently played a big part in that one manga Ryu wrote. And Wanyadora itself got reference a lifetime ago in EP8 Tea Party, but Wanyan was translated as Meowoof back then and nobody knew what Lambda was talking about.

>>25598588
Just ripped them, it's not.

>>25598523
Seshat is an AI this is why she is invisible in surveillance technology.

>>25598535
According to her profile, the nig is a popular blogger and she's paid by the police state to criticize the government so they can arrest whoever agrees with her in the comments and have them disappear China-style.

Baiting people like that is just pure evil.

>tfw Bern favors RGD and bestows unlikely miracles sometimes
>tfw the feather from Ciconia shows up a couple of times
What does it MEAN?

>>25598702
>the religious special corps secret police youtube channel! secret police fan merchendise! secret police annual convention! secret police mobile game! boardgame! trading cards! patreon stretch goals and tier rewards! Make sure to be in the second tier or higher, or we'll know! if you're tier 12 or higher you can become an organizer for our information network!

So what became of the guy who legally owned the Ushiromiya mansion and could kick Krauss out at any time? Did all that come to light?

>>25598770
Fuck you're right

>>25598770
>>25598865
RGD Didn't Leo say something like "Richard lost his goddess of FORTUNE and replaced her with a gloomy reaper"? It makes sense that everything goes to shit and everybody loses their plot armor the moment our Bern expy leaves the stage. That's when any further attempts to pull a crazy stunt and rely on luck gets the characters killed left and right. Even Leo wasn't as lucky as before.

>>25598588

>>25598865
RGD is a matrix simulation like Ciconia. They are trying to create a scenario where no WW3 happens by changing the end of WW2. One of those feathers was probably what caused the great disaster, surely an AI messing with the code to end the war before the nukes.

>>25599098
>Gabriel is an angel
>Angel feathers

What if the sea of fragments, the meta world and purgatorio are the same thing and all of it is a collective illusion for all the souls trapped under the Glass Sea? That's why all these memories are in the shape of shards of glass. There are no parallel worlds, just souls forever reliving their lives in different ways as a collective hallucination in the afterlife. Remember that both Higurashi and Umineko called them "fragments of memories" and "imagined worlds where we did this or that differently", rather than true parallel worlds.

The battle standard festival took place in the GIFU stadium. The glass sea can be seen from the hot springs in a Gifu hotel. Hinamizawa was probably in that location. Keiichi and his friends were probably elderly people when WW3 happened and their souls got stuck under the glass, reliving their youth forever.

The witches who surpass the level of creators and reach that "forbidden plane" never return because their souls turn into spiritum and are used as fuel by humanity.

There is only one universe. The sea of fragments is an illusion of tortured souls. RGD is a simulation. Ciconia is another simulation but using brains in jars and replicating the exact state of the world before WW4.

>>25599469
leagues better than metaphor #21485

>>25599469
The feathers are definitely not natural and must be signs of someone fucking with the matrix. Like come on, how do you explain feathera appearing when they use the gauntlets?

Gabriel a force of nature made to look like an angel. He's an AI. He's the digital equivalent of the organics automata except he's made of feathers intead of nanomachines.

>>25598979
Holy fuck.

https://youtu.be/2ikDA2lENyg

LMAO what the fuck

>>25599629
I'm tired of seeing this fucking meme, please stop.

>>25599629
That looked like a meme channel, but turns out it uploaded the coolest Ciconia MAD ever. In English! Probably the only the only one that exists yet.

>>25598847
Cant kick out a guy who no longer exists from a property that no longer exists.

I unironically love Ciconia and RGD more than Umineko. And I fucking love Umineko.

>>25599850
you only like ciconia more because of how many more cuties it has

phase 2 when

>>25599863
They are all either schizos who belong in a mental institution or creepy brains sitting in a jar in a cold, lifeless room that will remain that way until the heat death of the universe.

Not quite waifu material regardless of which one is the truth.

>>25600041
Who cares? Lingj is dead.

>>25600092
Damn, can you imagine if you started seeing glitches in reality and eventually learned you are a brain in a jar? It would be really disturbing to realize you don't have a real body to move and your true form is out there, defenseless, incapable of communicating with the real world, devoid of all five senses except for the internal illusion of the matrix. Like waking up from a dream only to find out you are a blind cripple and can't move a single muscle.

>>25600161
my dead wife was very cute when she was alive

>>25599804
Man that Image song is really good. Hope it ends up being the opening song for Phase 2.

why did ryukishi have to be such an outdated jew by putting the do not upload content beyond this point thing in ciconia

>>25595166
Yasuのprepubescent, ambiguous wreck!

>>25600514
Your waifu eats dog meat.

>>25600771
ill be more than willing to give her my hotdog

>>25594975
This is what Shkanontrice fags think?
You will never been able to understand umineko if you arent italian

>>25598588
>but Wanyan was translated as Meowoof back then and nobody knew what Lambda was talking about.
People who read with voices got it. That's the main advantage, hearing the Japanese script.
>>25597013
A better writer than Ryukishi.
>>25596459
Boys can get pregnant in the AOU after all...

>>25599469
>sea of fragments
INTERNET ANON

>>25596937
>reddit
BECAUSE THET READ THE VN AND NOT ONLY THE MANGA LIKE YOU FUCKING GOAT

>>25595753
FUCK OFF MIYAO IS A CUTE TOMBOY AND JAYDEN LOVE HER

READ ERIJAYDEN MANIFESTO

>>25595156
This is wjat happened when you dont support erikantrice

To fixed your shit you are forced to unite the game world with the meta and reality to solve the mistwry since there is not a solution to Erika character actions

Image the solutiom is so simple but people prefer even think as author instead of solve a crime

>>25595753
>In short, I think Miyao is the main personality
Didn't Blueyao say Miyao was actually an app? I know it could be rubbish, but it could also turn out to be true.
One thing I find interesting though is that Toujirou only eve addresses Miyao. He never talks about Meow.

Why is K1 such a dumbass?

>>25595941
I wonder how much Commie ideology survived into the A3W era. The description of the COU nations describes them as "the only group of nations where ancient traditions and the human heart still live on." and the last line calls them out as greedy capitalists, so you might think that COU China is run by a RGD-style trad-right imperialist government trying to revive the glory of China as the "center of the world patron state"... but then there's the "The Kunlun Military Research City proposed a five year plan"-line.

>>25602796
K1 obviously has unconscious feelings about Mion which he express by idealizing her. This is an incredibly tense situation and he let stress out by ranting about this.
It's sad

>>25596950
Well he's an actual schizo so I can't blame him
>>25596981
No, he's right, it's way more popular on 4chan than on reddit.
It's a very /v/ thing, though.
>>25601047
I've only read the VN you psychotic retard.

>>25602796
>"Keiichi . . ."
>Rika paddles close, takes my arm and drags me toward Mion.
>Huh? What is she trying to do? Hey, Rika, this is serious! Don't play around while your friend is in danger!!
>But Rika just keeps going . . . . Then, she drags my hand . . . . toward Mion's butt . . . and . . .
>Mii~!
>See Keiichi? Mion has a disgusting ass. Even though she seems like a cute girl, she really has this humiliating form.
>The room has gone quite, the rest of my classmates are staring at us in shock.
>Keiichi. Isn't this proof that Mion is still a pathetic human after all?
>"Y-yeah"
>All I can do is stutter out those words.

>>25598847
I guess he lost a fucktonne of money lol

Just finished Umineko, should I read RGD or Ciconia next?

I'm not reading Higurashi because I went through the whole wiki like a retard and spoiled all of it.

>>25604723
>started with Umineko
Why do people do this.
>spoiled all of it.
I think there are more to these novels than the immediate twists, you won't get the intended experience, but a read through might still be worth it.

>>25604876
>Why do people do this.
Like I said I went through the whole Higurashi wiki like a retard and spoiled it lol.
>I think there are more to these novels than the immediate twists, you won't get the intended experience, but a read through might still be worth it.
For sure, reading for the plot is for negroes, but that doesn't mean I want to read the whole visual novel while the plot outline is still fresh in my mind.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU-QDHqZPo8

>>25602796
Did he just call Mion the H-word?

>>25604723
Get the fuck off the thread retard could you not read that umineko is when they cry 3?

Seriously though why do so many people jump straight to Umineko? Are people retarded or does nobody give a shit?

Why did Ryukishi get so into putting shitty CGI shit into his VNs all of the sudden. I could forgive it in TRT cus of plot reasons, plus in that story EVERYTHING but the characters are CG, but in Ciconia it just looks out of place

>>25605305
I think a lot of people feel more comfortable recommending umi to their friends because higurashi is so unapologetically anime.

>>25605305
Lel you dunk on me for not reading but you couldn't even read the reply chain.
I already read the plot for Higurashi because I remembered "hey, I watched a couple of episodes of the anime, I wonder if it'd actually be worth reading this stuff". The synopsis seemed pretty interesting so I decided reading the next one in the series wouldn't be a waste of time.

Now should I read RGD or Ciconia?
>>25605367
I was recommended Higurashi WAY before Umineko. Actually, nobody recommended Umineko to me.

>>25605380
>you couldn't even read the reply chain.
look who's talking. I was replying to
>why do so many people jump straight to Umineko?

>>25605367
Yeah I see few of my mutuals actually getting over the 5 or so first hours of club activities of Higurashi.

It's sad because Higurashi theory game is a good warm-up before Umineko, since it's fairer without much meta-mindgames.

Wait. I read Higurashi 1-8, but why did some random junkie confess to killing Satoko's aunt.

>>25605380
Ciconia only has one Phase, so might as well just read that first

>>25605380
Welp, nice one fucking up one of the best experiences in all art because you're a lazy asshole. I haven't read RGD but Ciconia has some really fucking cool moments surrounded by a lot of bullshit that'll probably be relevant whenever he writes the next parts.

>>25605451
Non-weebs don't deserve Higurashi.

>>25605422
Look who's talking. I was replying to
>I think a lot of people feel more comfortable recommending umi to their friends because higurashi is so unapologetically anime.
'cause I was actually recommended Higurashi specifically because it was so anime. A weeb friend said that if I liked some thriller anime (idk, steins;gate?) then I'd love Higurashi. My dad bought an extremely shady DVD set of the anime because he didn't approve of internet piracy lmao.
>>25605525
So there's no narrative reason to read RGD first?
>>25605529
I feel like that's a mild exaggeration anon.

Why are peple still not reading RGD? It's been a decade since it was translated and all you guys did was bitch and moan about Umineko while acting like Ryuukishi hasn't written anything all this time.

>>25605538
>calls it a mild exaggeration
>read the whole story on a wiki
Go fuck yourself.

>>25605589
Well, I doubt one of the greatest pieces of art is secretly hidden in the bibliography of the dude who made Umineko. Umineko was fun but it wasn't "better than actual art" fun.

>>25605538
>So there's no narrative reason to read RGD first?
They share some themes, so reading Ciconia later is slightly more interesting. Then again, Ciconia is full of Higurashi references too, like the Babel tower thing and the dice metaphors.

It doesn't really matter, they aren't connected.

>>25605627
>It doesn't really matter, they aren't connected.
Gotcha
I guess I'll read whichever I randomly decide to read then

>>25605622
Lmao, what do you consider "actual art"? That's very subjective.

>>25605622
I don't give a fuck if you doubt it, you haven't read it and ruined it for yourself. Like i said, go fuck yourself.

>"better than actual art" fun.
what does this even mean?

>>25605585
it doesnt have cute ryukishi sprites

>>25605649
You'll just spoil everything for yourself and then bitch about it not being exciting to read.

>>25605650
Y'know, high literature and all that. Ofc Umineko is art in the same way a water bottle is art but you know what I mean.
>>25605652
Don't worry anon, I'm sure at some point I'll give myself enough brain damage to be able to experience Higurashi as it was truly intended.
>>25605671
Why would I do that lol
I got spoiled on Umineko (accidentally, this time) and I still thought it was a fun read

>>25605649
Go to twitter instead where people don't give a fuck about original art and sprites and will tell you reading order doesn't matter. You'll fit right in with their bullshit.

>>25605696
>Go to twitter
I can't. Every time I make an account they ban me for being a bot.

>>25605708
Try the discords instead then, that's almost as bad but somehow slightly more tolerable.

>>25605735
Discords're always full of pointless drama and cliquefaggotry

You guys were talking about the Ryukishi Head Worm, so I would like to remind everyone that Naomi, the religious character that has memory problems like AuAu has Ryukishi literally ON her HEAD. Naomi is literally God.

>>25605681
>I got spoiled on Umineko (accidentally, this time) and I still thought it was a fun read
Then why not read Higurashi? It's a good story with great characters. Spoilers are devastating for Umineko and kill half the fun, but Higurashi is still interesting to read even without the twists. I got spoiled from watching the anime and still loved the VN.

>>25605781
I got spoiled on Umineko in that I read some nigger in an Umineko thread referring to "Shkanontrice". I got spoiled on Higurashi in that I read the detailed plot outlines for most of the episodes. It's not about the spoilers so much as just not wanting to retread that ground just yet. I'll read it when the plot's not fresh in my mind, anon.

>>25604371
Mion is so confident and yet.

And yet.

>>25605681
>art is only art when it's good art bad art isnt art i love reading high literature aren't i smart

>>25605912
The best part is, I only said "actual art" because I thought you'd go ape shit if I mentioned specific artists I think are better. Guess you were gonna go ape shit either way lel