[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/jp/ - Otaku Culture


View post   

File: 623 KB, 2002x706, bernkastel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25391507 No.25391507 [Reply] [Original]

Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Higanbana, RGD and all 07th related works discussion thread.

Complete 07th Expansion mega link :
https://mega.nz/folder/wLxAFApJ#bw2evoJRzl6BDhlpadX1YQ

>> No.25391607
File: 192 KB, 1000x1400, ange 43.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25391607

First for I want to marry Ange and have 10 kids

>> No.25391609
File: 15 KB, 259x194, truth.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25391609

RGD is Ryukishi's magnum opus and you're not a true R07 fan until you read it. This is the undeniable truth.

>> No.25391633
File: 365 KB, 1000x710, Ee2FqQlWoAk7fvN.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25391633

ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

Discuss together , arguing is the only way to improve my manifesto
so send my feedbacks and critique i will accept everything

>MUH UMINEKO MANGA IS CANON
UMIINEKO MANGA CONFIRM ERIKANTRICE WITH THIS IMAGE

>> No.25391786
File: 369 KB, 1536x1100, 2327b2689b4ed8aff61ddffa26bb2c2a2c52f13a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25391786

I'm so blueballed for Ciconia Phase 2 goddamit

>> No.25391795
File: 194 KB, 500x703, 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25391795

>> No.25392314

>>25391607
would you say that she has child-bearing hips?
or is she lacking in the hips department and is all ass

>> No.25392525

Does anyone have backup vid for this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThosMzcaNdM

>> No.25392576

>>25392525
in the misc folder of the mega

>> No.25393088

finished matsuribayashi, well that was pretty bad

>irie's dumb rant about maids in the hospital in a serious moment that could cost shion her life was out of character and doesn't make sense considering the situation
>shion going toe to fucking toe with the leader of the yamainu is ridiculous, she's 16 years old and WITH NO FUCKING COMBAT EXPERIENCE and able to take down the years of training experience Okonogi
>trash villain takano gets off scot-free with muh hinamizawa syndrome with no consequences of her crimes
>tomitake fully acknowledges takano's sins and forgives her
what a pathetic excuse of an ending to a series

>> No.25393577
File: 2.72 MB, 1920x1080, 1592958766281.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25393577

What does she mean by this?

>> No.25394594

>>25393088
welcome to r07's writing

>> No.25395054

yeah endings suck cock and balls 360

>> No.25395155

>>25393577
Mion pleases old men

>> No.25395317

If Satoko has a farting loli ass, how come she's so smug?

>> No.25395400

>Higurashi gacha announced
How can that even work

>> No.25395887

>>25395400
maybe there's 10 different variations of each character like swimsuit mion and rika forma alcoholizada

>> No.25396065
File: 17 KB, 512x288, bat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25396065

>>25395155
This is the last time Keiichi gets one-upped by Old Man Kimiyoshi

>> No.25396215

>>25393088
I think the point was that it was the one truly perfect miracle world that normally wouldn't be found in any other fragment. There was literal magic going on.

>> No.25396382

>>25393088
R07's endings are usually bad.
The true miracle of the series was that most episodes were actually good for the most part.

>> No.25396385

In the middle of Umineko 3, what the hell is happening?

>> No.25396400

>>25396385
Wasn't that the one where Eva and Beatrice/Sayo/Kanon/Shannon kill everyone with one of them playing dead?

>> No.25396426

>>25396385
Maria's strangled corpse is decomposing in the rain and pissing itself in a humiliating way.

>> No.25396441

>>25396385
I hope you are not a first time reader. Why would you come here?

>> No.25396462

>>25396441
Maybe he wants to discuss the soundtracks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOyBGo4vjBg

>> No.25396556

>>25396400
fake and gay shannon is not Beatrice
image waste a great character like her to a supporting character of George

>> No.25396682
File: 2.28 MB, 1366x768, Screencap13537.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25396682

What the fuck is even happening anymore?

>> No.25396721
File: 1.17 MB, 1920x1080, 1582637067773.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25396721

>>25396682
Yeah it's true.

>> No.25397104

Wait, there's a full Italian version for the theme of umineko?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t7FEiVjPJk

>> No.25397635

>>25396556
George is a cuck who was engaged to a tranny.

>> No.25397663

>>25396682
Rika talking dirty again.

>> No.25397685
File: 53 KB, 640x442, tttt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25397685

>>25397635
George is a CHAD like his grandpa

BOTH KILL EVERYONE ON ROKKENJIMA FOR THEIR TWIN SOULS

CHADS

>> No.25397709
File: 363 KB, 640x480, 49-2703.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25397709

>>25397685
lmao

>> No.25398066
File: 147 KB, 900x797, klebold-and-harris-target-practice.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25398066

>>25397709
fake stupid headcanon fanfiction created by Battler's family culpit theory incarnate

>> No.25398291

>>25397635
It's not a tranny, it's his cute loli uncle he's been chasing after for 6 years.

>> No.25398416

>>25398291
But how can uncle Yasu be a loli when he doesn't have a pathetic bald pussy at all? Is it just because he's cute?

>> No.25398468

>>25395317
Are you suggesting Satokoのhumanity is her own fault?

>> No.25399367 [DELETED] 
File: 794 KB, 1088x1392, soyrika.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25399367

>ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
>https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS (embed)
>Booru:https://erikce.booru.org
>
>Discuss together , arguing is the only way to improve my manifesto
>so send my feedbacks and critique i will accept everything
>
>>MUH UMINEKO MANGA IS CANON
>UMIINEKO MANGA CONFIRM ERIKANTRICE WITH THIS IMAGE

>> No.25400005 [DELETED] 
File: 86 KB, 830x791, EVa3GstWoAM9v69.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25400005

>THE MANGA IS CANON, STOP THINKING AND ACCEPT OUT TRUTH

>NO GEORGE IS A KEK LOOSER, HE WOULD NEVER KILL NO ONE GAAP FIGTH IS FAKE

>KANON IS ALWAYS UNFORGETTABLE NEAR HAS BATTLER INSTEAD SHANNON HAS NO PROBLEM THIS SHOW THAT SHANNON IS YASU

>ERIKA ACT HAS A DUMB DETECTIVE BECAUSE SHE IS DUMB AND SHE KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE SHE IS MAD, THIS MOTIVES ARE PERFECT FOR A MISTERY

>FORNITURE MEAN PERSONALITY BUT NOT IN GENJI CASE

>> No.25400061
File: 86 KB, 830x791, EVa3GstWoAM9v69.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25400061

>THE MANGA IS CANON, STOP THINKING AND ACCEPT OUT TRUTH
>NO GEORGE IS A KEK LOOSER, HE WOULD NEVER KILL NO ONE GAAP FIGTH IS FAKE
>KANON IS ALWAYS DISCOMFORT NEAR HAS BATTLER INSTEAD SHANNON HAS NO PROBLEM THIS SHOW THAT SHANNON IS YASU
>ERIKA ACT HAS A DUMB DETECTIVE BECAUSE SHE IS DUMB AND SHE KILL PEOPLE BECAUSE SHE IS MAD, THIS MOTIVES ARE PERFECT FOR A MISTERY
>FORNITURE MEAN PERSONALITY BUT NOT IN GENJI CASE
>EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT 2 TIMES STRAIGTH IS THE SOLUTION, EVA ACCEPT THE DEATHS OF HER HUSBAND AND SON TO HELP YASU

>> No.25400541

Why is Midori always called a dumb twat?

>> No.25404091
File: 577 KB, 2481x1754, 012_013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25404091

>>25391507
How long are the question arc? More or less 808 pages. https://twitter.com/UNagenki/status/1293895530486136833
I hope to talk with you all anons soon when I finish reading his works, there the best so far I've ever read.

>> No.25404445

>>25396215
It's called the "final world" by Hanyuu, a world composed of all the remaining fragments and therefore somehow almost all of the obstacles in Rika's way disappear.
It's still shitty writing. Ryu07 could have done so much more with the final world after the fantastic ending of Minagoroshi and besides, if Hanyuu always had this ability it's just retarded that she never used it before.

>> No.25404468

Umineko is a poorly written piece of garbage and I honestly don't understand how sad your life has to be to uplift it.

>> No.25404564

>>25404091
If you want to have good discussions, 7th general might be the wrong place for you.

>> No.25404871
File: 360 KB, 1200x1200, IMG_20200813_165110.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25404871

Everybody gets an SSR Rena!

>> No.25404873

If Phase 1 followed an altered version of Book of Revelation of Saint Ioànnis, some people from ABN could have predected WW4, right?

>> No.25404938

>>25404445
>if Hanyuu always had this ability it's just retarded that she never used it before
Bern is the one that created the fragment, Hanyuu had nothing to do with it. And if you mean manifesting as a physical human, it's a dangerous move that drains what's left of her power. If they failed in Matsuri, they wouldn't be able to try again.

>> No.25404979

Can we just talk about the fact that Satoko's got an arse and how incredibly obscene and shameful it is? For all her pride, her body is surprisingly ridiculous when you think about it.

>> No.25404989

>>25391609
Is it really worth the time? It's the only one i haven't read.

>> No.25405028

>>25404989
Yes, but it gets really good halfway through season 2.

>> No.25405054

>>25404989
Not that anon, but yeah is it worth it, the characters are really fun to read and the game has a lot of really well made action scenes.
Also the OST is great, give it a try.

>> No.25405097

>>25405054
Best place to get it? Should i use the mega or Nyaa or anywhere else?

>> No.25405122

>>25404989
Did you hate the others or something? Why even ask? Simply add the sound of another gunshot. That Davis bastard must be dead by the end of this month, no matter what.

>> No.25405141

>>25405097
hmm I got mine from Nyaa it worked fine.

>> No.25405168

>>25404938
Bern is not canon in Higurashi, stop with this headcanon.

>> No.25405218

I wish I could read the lighthearted first season of RGD again without having depressing flashbacks of what happens later. I should've reread it when I got attached to the characters instead of waiting until the end.

>> No.25405259

>>25405141
The fact that there's even the possibility of the two downloads being slightly different is concerning. Is one of them fucked in some way? Like sitting in someone's failing hard drive for years before they uploaded it and now works fine except a small file is slightly corrupted and has a 0.00001% chance of crashing the game? That kind of stuff gives me OCD. I'm a preservation nut.

>> No.25405273

>>25405122
I didn't dislike any of them but i wouldn't say i absolutely love all his work. Higurashi was great, Umineko was even greater but misses the landing a bit, Higanbana's stories went from 'mehhhh' to 'jesus fucking christ ryukishi' and Ciconia looks promising i guess?

>> No.25405280

>>25405168
She literally speaks to you for like an hour in the intro segments of the last two arcs. Did you even read Higurashi?

>> No.25405329

>>25405259
Don't know, I have not tested any other downloads other than the one in Nyaa.
If you're worried you can just download the two and save both on your hard drive.

>> No.25405481

>>25405218
RGD is his most consistently good work, but it's weird how you only get really attached to the characters when they are hands deep in criminal shit. During the first season I found them interesting as characters, but I didn't care that much about them as people despite having their hands clean of shady stuff. I think viewing them from the perspective of three underdogs made me appreciate them more.

It's hard to talk about this series without accidentally spoiling people, considering it has like 4 readers outside Japan who can actually talk about it without danger.

>> No.25405488
File: 373 KB, 574x1077, p_01_04.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25405488

What are you guys expecting from the new Higu anime?, I feel that it'll have some good comedy scenes but atm I'm not sure about how well it'll adapt the VN, I hope they don't rush it like Deen did, honestly for 12/13 episodes adapting until se second Higu arc seems fine.

>> No.25405563

>>25405488
I expect Takotsuboya to get into it and make a long ass doujin where every girl is humiliated and pubic hair is realistically portrayed. All of his work is fucking incredible, but it's always based on some anime that is popular at the time.

>> No.25405582

>>25404989
It's his most consistent work, very few pacing issues unlike his other vns, there's still some but they're not as bad as an Umineko, the fact that it's a linear story instead of an episodic one with time loops shenanigan might also help
and yeah it's very good all around

>> No.25405617

>>25405563
Don't know about girl humiliation I feel Higu will bring more of the male humiliation bunch with how much the girls make K dress up as a girl.
Ahaha I can't wait to see those scenes and then see a bunch of normies complaining about how thats ofensive.

>> No.25405619

>>25405280
Minagoroshi released 2 years before the first chapter of Umineko, retard. Bernkastel probably wasn't more than a concept by that time.
This was clearly Rika or else Hanyuu monologuing in the sea of fragments.

>> No.25405710

>>25405563
The best thing about that author is how his style somehow fits any series he parodies, almost feeling like an official manga. And how he sometimes uses fucked up real life plots, like putting Madoka through the Hell of Sylvia Likens.

>> No.25405749

>>25405619
>Minagoroshi released 2 years before the first chapter of Umineko, retard. Bernkastel probably wasn't more than a concept by that time.
>This was clearly Rika or else Hanyuu monologuing in the sea of fragments.
Confirmed, you didn't read Higurashi.

>> No.25405820

>>25405280
>>25405749
Low effort shitposting is a bannable offense, you know.

>> No.25405843

>>25405710
Sylvia had a handicapped loli sister who was forced to torture and humiliate her too. I wonder why he chose Madoka who has no siblings.

>> No.25405866
File: 141 KB, 1920x1080, HigurashiEp01_2019-09-06_23-51-52.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25405866

>>25405619
>Bernkastel probably wasn't more than a concept by that time
What are you on?, Bernkastel was a thing since the start of Higurashi, she was always meant to be an alter-ego of Rika and eventually (most likely in Rei) they separate.

>> No.25406045

>>25405866
Frederica Bernkastel, the poet and Rika's alter ego =/= Bernkastel, a witch capable of traveling between fragments
Why the hell should a witch completely unrelated to the story who won't appear until two years later in a different franchise comment on the beginning of Minagoroshi, which fluently goes over to Rika's perspective right after?

>> No.25406280
File: 166 KB, 488x382, 36f6ba1fd24fd9c93f22ac80c0bee87205969a21.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25406280

I really do hope "God's representative" is a Gabriel expy

>> No.25406464
File: 385 KB, 1920x1080, HigurashiEp07_2019-09-16_16-14-38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25406464

>>25406045
Do you realice that Rika can travel between fragments and she often calls herself a Witch?
So by your definition:
Bernkastel=a witch capable of traveling between fragments,
Rika can travel between fragments and she sees herself as a witch.
You deniend your own point anon...
But leaving that aside the gist of it is that at one point Rika and Bernkastel were the same person, Bern was Rika's Alter-ego that she made to cope with the sadness of her sad fate, during Higu you can see it clearly how Rika uses this to change from the innocent Rika to the Witch Rika. In one point they separate, thats how Bern (In Umineko) came to be.
Ryukishi07 loves multiple personality stuff and things like that, so is not weird when you think about it.
>won't appear until two years later in a different franchise
Do you realize that Higu,Umi and Ciconia are part of the same series right?
At this point I agree with this anon >>25405749

>> No.25406651

>>25406280
I don't want to see this motherfucker ever again.

>> No.25406712

>>25405843
I never liked how they barely humiliated her loli sister. Then again, these are real events, so I'm glad she didn't get humiliated, buttraped, set on fire or killed.

>> No.25406797
File: 56 KB, 911x654, Rika_reminiscing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25406797

>>25406464
>Rika can travel between fragments and she often calls herself a Witch
Rika calls herself a witch, yes. But she can't travel between fragments - she's being thrown into different fragments whenever she dies. It's not by her own will, she can't control it at all as opposed to Bernkastel who basically lives in the sea of fragments. Rika calling herself a witch might just be her coping with the fact that by now she's over a hundred years old and doesn't possess her childish naivete and common sense anymore.
>Rika and Bernkastel were the same person
That's never stated in the VN nor is it even implied. I know that something similar might've been shown in the anime or some spin-off, but that's still not canon. Bernkastel comes from a very Higurashi like world, but from what we hear in Umineko there are still differences to Higurashi. The "infinite monkey theorem" metapher Lambdadelta uses to describe Bern's origin doesn't fit at all wih Rika's circumstances.
>Do you realize that Higu,Umi and Ciconia are part of the same series right?
And that's where you show that you're wrong. You're assuming that Ryu07's novels must be interconnected even though they can and should still be viewed as stand alone works.

>> No.25406907
File: 133 KB, 595x805, 1209231282305.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25406907

Allow me to tell you a tale.

It took place 1,000... no, 37 years ago.

But what is time anyway?

To me it seems like yesterday.

For you, it might be tomorrow.

>> No.25406974

>>25406907
>WARNING!!!!! this manifesto contains heavy spoilers on umineko no naku koro ni
to all the readers in this document I assume that you know the whole story of umineko in the smallest det.......

>> No.25407051

The human condition of a lewd ass loli kiddo.

>> No.25407074
File: 568 KB, 350x396, Hanyuu_dance.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25407074

What was the deal with the last tip in Matsuribayashi?
The one about Hanyuu's child and the holy sword/stick in the shrine.
Does it have any relevancy at all or was it just Ryu07 fucking with us?

>> No.25407276

>>25406974
I watched the entire anime.

>> No.25407350

>>25407276
Based
cant wait for George destroy Jessica's head with a kick animated

>> No.25407669

>>25407350
The fact that Jessica's cute face can even be destroyed and fucked up beyond recognition is pathetic! Disgusting! Humiliating! Lewd! She's such a perfect girl, and yet her pretty face is made of flesh and blood! Eww! How can she live with herself?

>> No.25407773

Ronove is a cute tomboy. Battler is NOT GAY

>> No.25407778

>>25407669
Should have replaced her head with a mare's leg like Cyberkinzo.

>> No.25407922

>>25407773
Nope ronove is Gay and love Kinzo

>> No.25407947

>>25407922
Kinzo isn't gay either because Genji used to be a cute tomboy too. She's just aged poorly.

>> No.25407999

What's the most fucked up thing in each series? The one that made you almost quit reading because you didn't want to acknowledge the fact that it happened.

Higurashi: Takano doing brain experiments on Rika's mom for several months while she's still alive and knows she's fucked beyond recovery and will be killed at the end.

Umineko: Rosa gets eaten alive by a creepy ass giant spider.

Higanbana: Dozens of preteen lolis turned into conscious piles of bloody meat, feeling excruciating pain 24/7 just from being touched by the air, burned by a demon's stomach acid for all eternity.

RGD: That fucking poisoning scene.

Ciconia: The meat factory.

>> No.25408024
File: 63 KB, 1920x1080, Umineko1to42020_08_03_17_59_45.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25408024

>>25406797
>But she can't travel between fragments
Even if she can't control where she lands and she depends on Hanyuu for the most part thats still traveling and she does have a knowledge of what fragments are. The Bern is Umineko (after separating from Rika) is 1000 years old is just normal for her to have more control of traveling.
>That's never stated in the VN nor is it even implied.
Pic related from Umi, but honestly even if you take that as a cute reference there are a bunch of other references.
Is clear as day that Rike and Frederica Bernkastel (Bern) were once the same being, as seen in Higu from 1 to 8 and Rei.
And even in Umineko like I said there are references, Furudo Erika name, the whole relationship between her and miracles, references to she liking wine (Bernkastel's name comes from Rika's favorite wine) and spicy food (Hanyuu bullying with Kimchi).
>The "infinite monkey theorem"
It does fit, she basically had to make a miracle come true, that said there's still points to argue, we know that Rika and Bern were once one but at point X they became different beings, so maybe that only happened to Bern.
>And that's where you show that you're wrong
Ryukishi07 VNs (the When They Cry ones) have common elements to them, mainly concepts and lore, stuff like fragments or the idea that for a miracle to occur everyone has to believe in it...They're mostly stand alone yeah, but on the backside they're conections that connects all of them in a more solid way that only character references.

>> No.25408043

>>25407999
>Umineko: Rosa gets eaten alive by a creepy ass giant spider.
the goat vore thing was much worse

>> No.25408093

>>25408024
Don't forget about Bern and AuAu's whole connection.

>> No.25408098

>>25408043
Being eaten alive by a goat demon is not worse than simply having a creepy giant spider in front of you. The sheer horror would make you regret having been born.

>> No.25408143

>>25408098
But spiders are cool.

>> No.25408163

>>25407999
Higurashi: Rena's descent into madness.
Umineko: A lot of stuff with Rosa and Maria honestly I can't choose, When I found out the meaning of Uu~ I had to go to the bath because man...that fucked me up.
Higanbana: Tie between the two pedo teachers
RGD: Snipers and all the stuff with Gabriel plan
Ciconia: Meat Factory
Trianthology: Not having a translation

>> No.25408167 [SPOILER] 
File: 3.85 MB, 1920x1080, 1597335586416.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25408167

>>25407999
Rosa was a bad mom sure, but this was too much.

>> No.25408240
File: 96 KB, 1920x1080, Umineko1to42020_08_03_17_20_45.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25408240

>>25408167
What sells this scene for me is what came before, the whole part of Rosa remembering that abuse of that her brothers did to her.

>> No.25408394

>>25408167
Literally everything is wrong with that image.

>> No.25408803

>>25408167
This is one of the most tragic scenes in Umineko, but not because it makes you feel bad for Rosa. It's a magic representation of Maria rejecting her mother in earnest and deciding that she doesn't trust her any more, because believing that she is loved and cared for has become too painful. It's a punch in the gut because the love Maria feels for Rosa has been established so well, and yet it's still completely believable that Maria would make that choice in the end.

>> No.25409142

>>25407999
Higurashi: Shion being forced to remove her nails, with this damn music still haunting me, Takano's past in the orphanage was pretty fucked up too, also Satako and her uncle, Rena listening to the doors and shit chapter 1, fuck there's a lot of them I didn't know anything on what Higurashi was about before starting it, not even that it was a murder mystery, so a lot of things fucked me up

Umineko: Kinzo locking up her daughter in his mansion and raping her until she got pregnant

Higanbana: the very first scene with the rapist teacher

RGD: All of the 1949 arc really, but the pudding scene really take the cake

Ciconia: nothing really fucked me up to be honest, maybe the meat factory or gunhild's sister whoring herself, but nothing as bad as the other ones for now

>> No.25409257

Is there a single 07thExpansion game where the main heroine doesn't attempt to or succeeds in killing herself?

>> No.25409948

>>25408024
Almost all of your references are taken from Umineko. And that's because Bern is *supposed* to be a Rika reference. So even if Bernkastel is an alternate version of Rika, that's just true for Umineko. It's still neither confirmed nor implied in Higurashi.

>> No.25410072

>>25396385
why are you here?

>> No.25410131

>>25409142
>Satako
There it is! Again! And they called me crazy!

>> No.25410158

>>25409142
>Kinzo locking up her daughter in his mansion and raping her until she got pregnant
That didn't happen outside Yasu's imagination.

>> No.25410178
File: 109 KB, 500x725, tumblr_inline_oe2buqj75q1snovbg_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25410178

>>25408024
The manga only solidifies it. R07 goes beyond what can be construed as merely references and blatantly shows that they are the same character.

>> No.25410195
File: 98 KB, 500x721, tumblr_inline_oe2bvvXF1s1snovbg_500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25410195

>>25410178

>> No.25410282

>>25410178
>>25410195
>the manga
It's not canon.

>> No.25410300

>>25410282
cope

>> No.25410668
File: 20 KB, 209x183, Beatorichu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25410668

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtGe6sTMCn4

>> No.25410765 [DELETED] 

>ywn darn Jessica to heck
Why live?

>> No.25411068 [DELETED] 

I want to explore Satoko's arsenal of traps[/spoiler] and get my hands all over Ange's assets.

>> No.25411134

I want to explore Satoko's arsenal of traps and get my hands all over Ange's assets.

>> No.25411185

>ywn turn Mion's pubic hair into public hair through bullying
What am I living IV?

>> No.25411744

>>25410158
Manga and VN canon, Kinzo raped his daughter until she got pregnant.

>> No.25411760

>>25410282
it is canon

>> No.25412082

>>25411744
Statutory rape is not rape. Kinzo didn't decide to steal the gold either.

>> No.25412123
File: 595 KB, 387x687, ciconia_phase1_2019-10-19_15-35-24.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25412123

I am THIS close to punch my screen because how annoying Keichi has been in ch3. I can already tell I'm near the ending but what the fuck... His ear bleeding voice doesn't help either. Just now realised how lucky we were with the Battler's god tier VA.

>> No.25412172

>>25409948
Anon, you keep asking for references and so on but after showing you several in both Umineko and Higurashi you're still asking, re-read the other posts man.
Let me write you the short version:
Is it implied that Bernkastel (in Umineko) is Frederica Bernkastel (after several centuries), and Frederica Bernkastel is an alter ego of Furude Rika (Say Furude Rika a bunch of times outloud, you'll end up saying something similar to Frederica, and like I said is Bernkastel comes from Rika's favorite wine name) that became its own entity at a certain point during the events of Higurashi.

>> No.25412254 [DELETED] 

>>25412123
It's your own fault for adding voices.

>> No.25412281
File: 18 KB, 229x210, 1596579206397.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25412281

>>25412123
>Playing 07thExpansion games with Voice Acting.
Memes aside I personally can't get into the VA for Umineko and Higurashi it just sounds weird to me, even if I do like some of the VAs when it comes to playing the game it just breaks the pace for me, maybe because I'm used to the voiceless versions of the games.
those VNs weren't made with Voice Acting in mind and that shows.

>> No.25412330

>>25412123
So this is your first time reading and you are ruining one of the best arcs for yourself because of the voices? What a shame. Ryuukishi definitely didn't intend for the reader to think about how annoying the voices are and be taken out of the story. There were no fucking voices originally.

Gee, it's almost like patching the shit out of the game instead of playing it vanilla is a bad idea. And yet I get shit every time I advise new players to do just that.

>> No.25412365

>>25408240
The deliberate way each paragraph is set up is pretty nice. It makes Ryu's prose more elegant.

>>25408167
This on the other hand is a fucking abomination, from the ridiculous CG, the tiny textbox that ruins what I described above, the completely transparent textbox with the most ill-fitting font ever... What a way to ruin a good scene.

>> No.25412902

>>25391507
https://twitter.com/GAL0LI0/status/1293988928417038336

>> No.25413404

>>25412281
Personally I think it slows down the reading pace too much. Well also anime voice acting can ruin a couple scenes for me, but that's not much of a problem, since it also improves others.

>> No.25413424

>>25412330
I wouldn't say using just the voices is patching the shit out of it. They enhance the experience for the most part unless you've already played the games without them. With that said though everyone who recs people get the full ps3 patch for their first read can get mega cancer. It's usually always the sjw twitter trannies doing it every time someone mentions they are interested in the game. There's also some 'when they cry for beginners' vid on yt that recs you get the full patch instead of using original art. Fuck everything.

>> No.25413426

>>25412123
K1 is such an annoying simp in Tatarigoroshi

>> No.25413478

>>25409257
I was going to say Ciconia but if Koshka is the main girl...

>> No.25413482

>>25413426
K1 is an atrocious MC compared to Battler or Miyao.

>> No.25413596

>>25413426
Can you even "simp" for a little preteen brat with an immature bald pussy? She's not even a proper female yet! Rather than she, we should call Satoko an "it".

>> No.25413601
File: 62 KB, 350x455, 1723411_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25413601

>>25413424
We can understand that Ryukishi's art cannot appeal to some people. Reading it with the PS3 sprites without the CG at first can works even though they will miss a bit on the dialogues, they saying to them to start reading Episode 2 and the rest in vanilla.
However, I find it quite paradoxical that people that wanted/start to read Umineko because of some memes with the OG sprites want to read the VN with Alchemist asset.

>> No.25413643

>>25413601
>they
*then

>> No.25413673

>>25413424
Most people in this world are insane moralfags who can burn alive for all I care. I wouldn't worry too much about them having their experience cheapened when they read a great VN. They deserve it. And they aren't even people anyway, they are insects. Who cares if they don't praise your favorite author because their version of the story made some key parts cringeworthy? It's not like they have human minds.

>> No.25413735

>>25413482
At least K1 doesn't fall for the villain and actually pulls it off to kill some bitches.

>> No.25413811

>>25413673
They can cheapen their experience for all i fucking care, it's when they go round ruining it for other people who don't know any better that pisses me off. I originally was interested in the vns through seeing the profile pic of the dude who made the kreia video so i guess i just got lucky unlike others.

>> No.25413868

Look, guys! Look! It's one of my greatest achievements, Ephraim Sauntered v4 in copypasta form! Incredible, incredible!

"Ephraim sauntered, wiggling his buttock-augmentation. Life couldn't get any better. This, he knew, was due to an incontrovertible fact:

Naked asses are the final equalizer. Everyone's got an ass and, if honestly appraised, they all look ridiculous.

Imagine Saddam naked, awkwardly bending for the soap. Or Osama squatting in a humid cave. Don't seem so threatening now do they?

The ass has equalized.

But Ephraim thought he had the system beat. His logic; if all asses are ridiculous, then mine will be the most ridiculous of them all.

I will be King of all Asses.

A difficult point to argue."

>> No.25414451
File: 664 KB, 1437x1080, 1508579919834.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25414451

>>25391633
Did anyone make a serious rebuttal of this theory already? Or should I crush it myself as a fellow Italian?

>> No.25414488

>>25414451
>reBUTTal
Lewd! How can that loli live with herself?

>> No.25414584

>>25414451
It's impossible to rebut because italianon will never admit. It's also impossible because Erika does have a faint connection to Yasu because of Virgilius on Last Note of the Golden Witch (Proto-Erika and he is supposed to represent the 19-year-old guy from Episode 5, so by extension Yasu).
Still, he's a literal troll. He does the same thing with another work of fiction.

>> No.25414702

>>25414451

Do not waste your time. He will ignore your arguments and just repeat his words again and again. Just ignore his existence.

>> No.25414815

>>25414584
I'm not really interested in the Erika = Yasu part of the theory, I don't see it as particularly important to the rest of the story. I'm more interested in George as a culprit and Shannon =/= Kanon, it shouldn't hold up at all and the explanation given contradicts with many things which I am making a note of.
>>25414702
Maybe he won't admit it but he also won't stop otherwise so someone must try. It'll be fun.

>> No.25414829

>>25414451
i discuss so much here
no one deny Erikantrice but i admit i lost many times in deny Shkanontrice

at least is confirmed it as an alternative theory since respect all the red truths

>>25414584
>Erika does have a faint connection to Yasu because of Virgilius on Last Note of the Golden Witch
>PROTO ERIKA WAS SUPPOSE TO BE YAST
YES ANON ERIKA IS YASU
>>25414702
fuck off
i explain to you my arguments and you all repeat like goats
>muh read the manga

fuck off and read umineko

>> No.25414858

>>25414815
Where have you been? People *have* tried multiple times. He either bullshits his way around everything or completely ignores it.
>he won't stop otherwise
more like won't stop period, because he's an obvious troll
just ignore and don't feed

>> No.25414868

>>25414815
the original names of my theory was George theory then Erika=Yasu was used to solve Chiru

George is the real bad guy of the story a Kinzo 2.0 who killed everyone in rokkenjima for his love

in the games he is just the culprit under yasu's order but in reality Yasu wanted stop the crimes since Battler never forgot about her, but George idnt give a shit and commit the tragedy

>> No.25414889

>>25414858
>He either bullshits his way around everything or completely ignores it.
EVERY FUCKING TIME I ARGUE I MAKE 2000 WORDS POST ABOUT AND YOU ALL JUST IGNORED IT AND WAY AROUND

IF YOU THINK SOMETHING IS TRUE WITHOUT ARGUMENTS THEN YOU NEVER READ A SINGLE LINE OF UMINEKO

>> No.25415176
File: 480 KB, 1021x429, monkey.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25415176

ACR after it wins WW4 be like

>> No.25415669

>>25405617
Is all of /jp/ this insane?

>> No.25415954
File: 241 KB, 1688x1904, Erika_think.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25415954

Minagoroshi or Requiem of the Golden Witch?
On the same note, Takano backstory or Yasu backstory?

>> No.25415991

>>25415954
I would Takano Yasu's backstory if you know what I mean.

>> No.25416059

>>25415954
Sayo's backstory is only tragic in that she trapped herself while having the means to take every way out and become happy. So going with Takano.

>>25415954
Minagoroshi because it doesn't retroactively lessen my enjoyment of the previous chapters like Requiem does.

>> No.25416185

>>25416059
Minagoroshi is undoubtedly overall better than Requiem, but the afterparty... this might just be my favorite culprit reveal in any medium.

>> No.25416242

>>25415954
Minagoroshi, Hanyuu is a fun character and even if the episode is slow is actually interesting to read, also the scenes when Satoko finally asks for help is really good.
Requiem has some good moments but the overall experience for me was quite underwhelming, at least for me.
Yasu had more potential as a character but the way they handle the reveal was pretty meh, Takano was done better.

>> No.25416610

>>25415954
Requiem. I really like the vibe.

>> No.25417089

>>25415954
requiem
yasu

>> No.25417205
File: 180 KB, 1351x790, Umineko_disgust.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25417205

>>25416610
>>25417089

>> No.25418064

>>25417205
God, I wish I was as incompetent as Battler so hot witches would look at me like this.
>>25415954
I prefer Yasu's, as it seemed to be more fleshed out, and had more of an impact in the story. Though it's not like Takano's was bad.

>> No.25418986
File: 184 KB, 1437x2287, 1597274479995.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25418986

The size and power of LATO is too strong!!!!!

>> No.25423253

>>25411134
i just want to put my penis inside ange if thats too much to ask

>> No.25423375

>>25414451
Just search for this nigger and kill him.

>> No.25424107

>>25397635
https://twitter.com/harleequins1/status/1294084702303924224?s=20

why are people always making this yasu is a tranny connection, did I miss something while reading? Because he's clearly just a mutilated (against his own will) delusional eunuch with identity issues when trannies are people on twitter/tumblr/discord groomed by pedophiles.

>> No.25424253

Is higurashi worth investing time in? How scary are the horror elements? Is it psychological horror?

>> No.25424379

>>25424253
If you're in it solely for the horror, then you'll be sorely disappointed. The "horror" in higurashi is atmospheric. It's not so much scary as it is unsettling and looming with anxiety.

>> No.25424425

>>25413868
so humiliation anon is known as "chickenposter" on /vp/?
>>25424107
because they are they/thems from tumblr with worms in their brains

>> No.25424542

>>25424379
yeah that's what I meant. Like wonderful everyday-type unsettling stuff is what I like

>> No.25424576

>mfw this didnt get localized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEIVvCSG99c

>> No.25424600

>>25424542
Then in that case, it should be right up your alley.
Higurashi is fairly consistent with quality, it's not one of those vns that you have to stick with because "it'll get good soon." The first chapter is really good, so you'll be able to tell if the rest is worth your time when you finish it.

>> No.25424765

>>25424576
it was held back by the protagonist (if he can even be called that) being a self-insert without any real characterization

>> No.25424813

>>25424765
from my experience with japanese media having a self-insert bland mc only makes something more popular

>> No.25425113

Gacha Higurashi Mei PV https://twitter.com/higurashi_mei/status/1294181968184315905

>> No.25425180

>>25425113

Seeing this and listening to the more iconic voices like Rena and Rika makes me wonder if the seiyuus for the main cast (and the umineko one for that matter) have any kind of emotional attachment to the characters and story or if it's just another day at work for them and they don't care at all.

>> No.25425930

>>25425180
Doing the voice of one character every year for at least 10 years just make the character a part of them, like Ayako Kawasumi with Saber or Hiroshi Kamiya with Araragi Koyomi. Otherwiise, they might get burned out of doing the voice because they don't really like the character, but espacially because these seiyuus are quite old.
Umineko wasn't milk like Higurashi, so the voice actor only has to voice them twice : the anime and Alchemist remarster. Howerver, we have Sayaka Ohara who is really fond of Beatrice and Umineko as a whole. Everytime there is a mention of Umineko, she talk about it.

>> No.25426041

>>25425930

>Umineko wasn't milk like Higurashi, so the voice actor only has to voice them twice : the anime and Alchemist remarster.

but the alchemist version literally has a billion lines for the main characters, I bet that would have a deeper impact than dubbing 12 ep anime

>> No.25426154

>>25426041

how disappointed would people be if Ono daisuke didnt know who the true culprit of Umineko is?

>> No.25426425

>>25423375
Uff despair because of a theory. Your Umineko will never rest in peace.

>> No.25426793

>>25426041
So does Higurashi's seiyuus with Alchemist/Entergram remaster, even more with extra contents (console arcs, fan-disc, several versions for pachinko, etc).
I also forgot to mention that Umineko's seiyuu does also voiced for pachinko.

>> No.25426827
File: 80 KB, 640x1548, IMG_20200814_125115.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25426827

Will she be a tsundere?

>> No.25426856

>>25426793
I wasnt trying to say Umineko VAs have more reason to be attached to the characters than the Higu ones, just saying that they probably spent more time voicing some Umi characters than other anime they're known for.

>> No.25426879

>>25426827
every gacha i've played based on things I'm into have proven to be actually insulting to the source material and characters I love, anyone who's gonna play this piece of shit which will undoubtedly be shut down 8 months after release should just kill themselves

>> No.25426920
File: 74 KB, 640x1548, IMG_20200814_125225.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25426920

>>25426879
>has read higurashi
>still doesn't believe in miracles
Pathetic.

>> No.25426966

I don't mind Ryu milking Higurashi to fund his passion projects that sell like shit no matter how good they are. It's not like all this milking is hurting the source material, which has been finished for 15 years.

>> No.25426989

>>25426966
higurashi is miles better than ciconia tho eheh or at least Onikakushi/Watanagashi is better than phase 1

>> No.25427198
File: 67 KB, 400x621, EdZVWKXXsAMe-U1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25427198

I'm posting this because it's cute.

>> No.25429247

>>25426966
Higurashi is better than anything R07 has ever written or will ever write.
The studio would be long dead without Higurashi.

>> No.25429461
File: 67 KB, 300x300, Bernkastel_smug.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25429461

>>25429247
>newfaggot who hasn't read anything besides Higurashi thinks his opinion matters

>> No.25429991

>>25429461
> keeps avatarfagging in every thread and calling everyone who he disagrees with a newfag

>>25379160
>fate defener too

>> No.25430017

>>25429461
I read Umineko too (read the summaries for 3-6 because they were too boring).

>> No.25432851

>>25426154
Ryukishi probably didn't tell him until they were recording for EP5 because it didn't make sense to. Meanwhile Sayaka Ohara was told about shkanon from the very beginning, while Shannon and Kanon's VAs were not.

>> No.25433088

>>25426989
It's very easy when Onikakushi was allowed to end like that. We'll be only able to properly judge Phase 1 when Ciconia is over basically.

>> No.25433141
File: 90 KB, 773x770, flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25433141

>>25430017
>(read the summaries for 3-6 because they were too boring)
This fucking troll.

>> No.25433675

RGD Okonogi is the most despicable piece of shit of them all.

I hope Ciconia Okonogi doesn't become a villain or something.

>> No.25434071

>>25433675
Well, Umineko Okonogi was a pretty cool guy as well, so there's still hope.

>> No.25434220

>>25391607
Even the coolest girl in the world has a soft, round arse. How can she act so smug and badass when she's got a squishy butt? It's like a teddy bear trying to be scary. Pathetic!

>> No.25434318

>>25433088
Ciconia sucks and I say that as someone who read a summary of a summary of the first chapter.

>> No.25434336
File: 53 KB, 499x387, 2020-08-14_155712.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434336

I'm trying to install Umineko Saku, but I keep getting this error message when selecting the drive, cal someone help me with that ?

>> No.25434343
File: 406 KB, 1071x571, EWQBtLFVcAAxjVI.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434343

.

>> No.25434358 [SPOILER] 
File: 107 KB, 640x480, 1597413579537.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434358

Don't Open Au Au~~ Inside.

>> No.25434381

>>25434336
download the french version on nyaa then apply the patch here

>> No.25434382
File: 218 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434382

>>25433088
>tfw you already like Ciconia more than Higurashi

>> No.25434389

>>25434336
Download more ram.

>> No.25434400

>>25434358
cool miko cosplay, jayden-kun!

>> No.25434429

>>25430017
this are the people who hate Erikantrice
literrally miss all the greatest dialogue of umineko that teach to you how think and debate, about never surrend

these consumer scum will never Umineko

>> No.25434456

>>25434429
Read the CANON manga dude. It literally explains everything about the story.
Airwrecka is just another piece from Bernkastel.

>> No.25434481

>>25434382
i wish i could share that feeling anon, i had to force myself to finish ciconia

>> No.25434512

>>25434481
that sounds like some personafag cope with how the game isn't focused on your tastes anymore desu

>> No.25434520

>>25434456
READ MY MANIFESTO DUDE
literally explain everything

Berkastle is Battler's family culprit theory
this explain why she is so obsessed about ruining Ange's life and humiliate the Beatrice's mistery

>> No.25434548

>>25434520
Yeah I'm not reading some incel's manifesto.

>> No.25434557
File: 1.18 MB, 1083x1651, r07.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434557

ERIKANTRICE IS CANON

>> No.25434564

>>25434481
I hope you like the next Phase.

>> No.25434577

>>25434548
Yeah I'm not reading some tranny's manga

>> No.25434605

>>25434577
I don't think R07 is trans.

>> No.25434606

>>25434456
>Read the CANON manga dude
Stop this stupid meme dude

>> No.25434629

>>25434605
the manga is not made by Ryukishi

>> No.25434636

Hsiao-lan is the most fuckable girl in any of these novels. She looks like a chink version of the girl from Gomennasai's urban legend doujin.

>> No.25434655

>>25434512
how is not liking a thing cope? yes the VN is centered around topics and themes which hold very little interest to me, plus the soundtrack was forgettable and the char designs not to my liking. Why are Ciconia fags so autistic if people dislike it

>> No.25434704

>>25434629
The manga simply explains things to the brainlets who didn't get all the obvious hints that the VN throws at you.

>> No.25434724

>>25434429
>THESE are the people who hate Erikantrice.
"People" is plural, so it needs a plural pronoun.

>THEY LITERALLY miss all the greatest dialogue of Umineko that TEACHES you how TO think and debate, and about never surrenderING.
The subject in this sentence needs to be explicit. "Dialogue" is singular, so the verb "teach" needs to be singular as well. Infinitives in English such as "to think" require an initial "to", although it can be elided in subsequent elements of lists ("to think and to debate" is stilted and sounds incorrect). When describing actions, nonfinite forms such as the gerund are required: "surrenderING".

>These consumer scum will never UNDERSTAND(?) Umineko.
In this sentence, "will" does not act as a full verb, only a tense marker. Sentences require verbs.

Also, you're replying to an obvious joke.

>> No.25434725

>>25434655
Ciconiatards have shit taste and an obsession with WTC games.

>> No.25434735

>>25434704
the manga change,delete and cut half of the story
how can you explain thing when the story is different?

>> No.25434766

>>25434655
This isn't relevant to the discussion, but could you please stop typing like a little kid? Capitals and punctuation are a thing. You are doing a disservice to your own opinions if you express them while typing like a low IQ retard.

>> No.25434771

>>25434724
shit language
italian is better

>> No.25434816

>>25434766
He just wants to be the little girl. This is /jp/. I bet your slutty camwhore of a rori cousin types the same way.

>> No.25434826
File: 56 KB, 604x576, EbIjOYQWAAE2WgQ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434826

>>25434655
Out of hope that it's going to get better.

>> No.25434852

>>25434771
>ENGLISH IS A shit language.
Subjects are required.

>Italian is better.
Proper nouns require capitalization, and sentences require punctuation.

>> No.25434857
File: 375 KB, 529x720, 1589395544414.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434857

>>25434766
Are you really that mad because someone doesn't like your trap fetish visual novel?

>> No.25434889

>>25434636
Chinks must die out. Anyone who finds a chiklet attractive is a commie and deserves to be shot.

>> No.25434912

>>25434857
Miyao is a reverse trap.

>> No.25434933

>>25434766
EOPs actually think good grammar means good or intelligent discussion, I think I was 12yo when I realized that was fucking retarded.

>> No.25434935

Jayden vs Miyao is going to be some good shit

>> No.25434936

>>25434655
>>25434725
pretty much proving the point desu, this is exactly how a fan of a Persona game reacts to the other games in the series

>> No.25434951

>>25434912
delicious either way

>> No.25434953
File: 2.54 MB, 4093x5933, 1596722519966.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25434953

>>25434912
Like Satoko?
That's hot.

>> No.25434956

>>25434936
Why the fuck are you bringing this Persona shit to this discussion? Go back to v.

>> No.25434959

>>25434933
at least you're honest about peaking when you were 12 lmao

>> No.25434966

>>25434636
Gunhild exists. Your chink can't compete with her tits and hairy pussy. Xiaolan probably wins in the ass department, though, but asses are disgusting so she loses points anyway.

>> No.25435028 [DELETED] 

Ciconia was a mistake and will be 07th's grave that none of the Higurashi milking will save it from.

>> No.25435043

>>25434933
You must be retarded if you don't realize bad grammar (especially lack of punctuation) correlates with extreme stupidity. Sure, plenty of fucking morons have perfect grammar, but NO geniuses type like retards. Being able to organize your ideas is the bare minimum.

>> No.25435044

>>25434735
>The manga changeS, deleteS and cutS half of the story.
While "manga" is technically an indefinite noun, it is almost always used as singular (as in >>25434704). Using "manga" as plural without supporting modifiers (as in "all these manga") implies that the speaker wishes to emphasize its plurality, which usually comes off as pretentious.

>How can you explain SOMEthing/ANYthing/A thing when the story is different?
I this context, the noun "thing" is practically a suffix expressing ambiguity. A quantifying pronoun such as "some" or "any" is needed to function as the object.

>> No.25435070

>>25434933
When I was 12 I was tapping hot loli ass, loser.

>> No.25435072
File: 121 KB, 216x411, Hanyden2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25435072

>>25434400
Damn, you found me out, you have sharp eyes Miyao.

>> No.25435075

>>25435043
>plenty of fucking morons have perfect grammar
Do you realize the irony?

>> No.25435083

>>25434956
Because you have the exact same circumstances, which also happened for the Nier fanbase too
>releases in series occur at glacial pace
>spergs that are fans of a particular entry sit around for actual years ingraining their autism into a fanbase
>new game comes out that has fuck all to do with the game they liked and isn't even the same genre
>is incredibly obvious from just looking at it but they still buy it anyway and force themselves to play something because of brand loyalty
>feel really bad but also confused because they (You) were retarded
>endless seething whenever the game comes up
It happens consistently on every scale as long as an anime fanbase is involved

>> No.25435238
File: 67 KB, 133x235, ciconia autism.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25435238

So does anyone believe the Gauntlets have some connection to a higher form of existence of species? What's the deal with the angel feather like things that come out of the Gauntlets when they are used? Or what about the blue people with gold gauntlets? And how does the red moon play into all of this? Is Jayden becoming one of those blue people possibly showing how the other species is trying to elevate humanity to join them?

>> No.25435288

It's pretty sad how the fanbase is overrun with low functioning autists and idiots incapable of understanding subtext or anything that is strongly implied but not explicitly stated.

Ryuukishi wrote Umineko expecting his audience to have a bare minimum of intelligence, but the average anime fan is a complete retard. This is why the fanbase is so awful, with people still arguing about Umineko 10 years later because they couldn't understand the visual novel even though Ryuukishi made it as obvious as possible even before the manga (which was only released because the stupid fanbase kept accusing him of a logic error and sabotaging his following works).

>> No.25435294

>>25435238
The Gauntlet Knights are pieces from God's representative.

>> No.25435310 [DELETED] 

>>25435083
>new game comes out that has fuck all to do with the game they liked

It has the WTC name and a ton of characters that directly reference the series

>is incredibly obvious from just looking at it

You are actually pretty fucking stupid if you missed that one of the main points of the WTC VNs are things not being what they look at.

>endless seething whenever the game comes up

If there's any seething in these threads lately is people like (you) getting turbo fucking mad at any hint that Ciconia phase 1 was disappointing.

>> No.25435323

>>25435238
They are all stork brains hooked up to the matrix and made to think they are human.

>> No.25435356

>>25435323
Ange wishes she was a seagull, but she'll always be a humiliahuman. Too bad for her dignity.

>> No.25435371

>>25435288
The manga isn't canon.
And if you think there's nothing at all to discuss about Umineko you're actually retarded.

>> No.25435373

>>25435294
That would explain the angel wings, but is God's representative an actual higher being? Or someone playing that part like we've seen in Umineko and Higu.

>> No.25435375

>>25435083
>new game comes out that has fuck all to do with the game they liked
It has the WTC name and a ton of characters that directly reference the series.
>is incredibly obvious from just looking at it
You are actually pretty fucking stupid if you missed that one of the main points of the WTC VNs are things not being what they look like.
>endless seething whenever the game comes up
If there's any seething in these threads lately is people like (you) getting turbo fucking mad at any hint that Ciconia phase 1 was disappointing.

>> No.25435410

>>25435310
>It has the WTC name and a ton of characters that directly reference
once again literally proving the brand loyalty point
>if you missed that one of the main points of the WTC VNs are things not being what they look at
You say this, and yet there's still bitching about the character designs and the scope of the narrative which was all shit that was abundantly clear from looking at the fucking game
>I'm not seething YOU'RE seething
what a compelling point

>> No.25435411

>>25435238
>So does anyone believe the Gauntlets have some connection to a higher form of existence of species?
Cheat codes for the matrix.
>What's the deal with the angel feather like things that come out of the Gauntlets when they are used?
Ciconia feathers.

>> No.25435434

>>25435356
But seagulls and storks both have cloacas so how can they have any dignity?

>> No.25435439
File: 622 KB, 1280x960, Requiem of the Golden Witch 81.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25435439

>>25435288
>people still arguing about Umineko 10 years later
I think that those people you are talking about understood Umineko better than you did.

>> No.25435450

>>25435373
He's the god of the matrix.

>> No.25435454

>>25435238
The blue people being angels is kind of super obvious since the ones underground even wearing the angel mort outfit

>> No.25435476

>>25435288
It's partially his own fault at that point. He'd already done Higurashi, he knew damn well what would happen when he took an actual mystery story (especially one with an emphasis on formality and rules) and released it over a period of many years. It was obvious that people were going to agonize over it, pour over the tiniest details and become very attached to their pet theories.

>> No.25435497

>>25435439
>being the detached sheep that were criticized in EP8's ending = what Battler was saying about mystery novels or even what Wright was trying to praise about theorycrafting
nah I think not

>> No.25435542 [DELETED] 

Why is there so much fucking twitter links and shit in these threads lately? I barely even come here anymore but I thought this place was a refugee from this kind of shit.

>> No.25435543

>>25435371
>The manga isn't canon
Stop spouting this fucking lie you autist. Please tell me how it's not canon.

APGNation: The character of Sayo Yasuda in Umineko is interesting. What were your thoughts in Sayo’s creation? Additionally, what were your thoughts on her expansion in the Umineko manga?

Ryukishi07: The secret of the character of Sayo is the core of Umineko’s story, so her inner workings and development were designed carefully and with the utmost complexity.

In the original version, in order to leave room for imagination for the reader to solve the mystery, I chose not to draw Sayo’s secrets in great detail (of course, it’s still possible to grasp, but I didn’t show things in a way where everyone would get it.)

With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.

Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.

Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.

By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.

>By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.
>By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.
>By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.

>> No.25435578

Why are there so many fucking twitter links and shit in these threads lately? I barely even come here anymore but I thought this place was a refugee from this kind of shit.

>> No.25435595

>>25435578
>I thought this place was a refugee
wtf, rude

>> No.25435597

>>25435578
There is only 4 in a 250+ thread?

>> No.25435600

>>25435578
anti-sjws mad that theres all kinds of different fans of 07th expansion works

its all italianons fault

>> No.25435622

>>25435578
You really need to calm the fuck down and start coping with yourself

>> No.25435634

>>25435597
>>25435600
>>25435622
Trannies.

>> No.25435635

>>25435622
you really need to stop cope-posting

>> No.25435653

>>25435543
Ok Bern Natsuhi is the culprit

Why you dont want argue?
So diffocult think?

>> No.25435686

>>25435578
>fear of gays and fujos prompting aggressive posts
How many more parallels with the Persona fanbase can one thread draw?

>> No.25435730

>>25435543
Oh yeah, and Hermione was black all along.
I don't care what the author claims after the work is done. Ryu07 could have confirmed Krauss to be the mastermind operating from his moon base in the manga for all that I care. What happens in the manga is of no importance to the original canon, and if you retards who repeat this shit in every thread knew a thing about literature we would've been over this point years ago.

>> No.25435735

>>25407999
Y'know what fucked me up the most in RGD was when Leo just straight up did what Keith couldn't. It's just a massive "fuck you" to what Keith had to go through when Leo just shows up and nonchalantly destroys him in what Keith should pretty much be unrivaled in. Just feels like Ryukishi saying "yeah, Leo could have saved her instead of this bitch ass motherfucker"

>> No.25435779

>>25435730
>the work is done
But the work wasn't done.

>> No.25435781

>>25435730
It's of extreme importance to the original canon whether you and your years of life wasted talking about things the manga later debunked can deal with it or not.

>> No.25435793

>>25435371
Did you even read my post? It doesn't matter what you think about the manga. The VN itself implies the same fucking answer, long before the manga came out.

>> No.25435833

>>25435793
The Vn never imply it
Read it anon

>> No.25435852

>>25435434
Animals have no dignity and they don't care. Humans do, so they are humiliated. And their cloacas don't look as ridiculous and non-threatening as this >>25434220

>> No.25435944

>>25435730
He's not changing anything dumbass. Your example of JK Rowling saying "Oh Hermione could be black~" 20 years later isn't the same thing. The VN's answer was Shkanontrice, and the only thing he did in the manga was directly show you that. Are you seriously implying he just decided to CHANGE the answer in the manga? On a whim? Just to make it "not canon". Rowling alluding to another race for Hermoine is based on the fact her description doesn't explicitly state what her skin color is. The VN was built up for Shkanontrice since the beginning and that fact didn't change when the manga came out. I don't know how much proof you autists need from R07 himself stating the manga is canon and Shkanontrice is the answer for you faggots to believe it. Every fucking thread you guys just cover your ears and scream NOT CANON to give your stupid theories SOME platform to stand on. Holy fucking hell you're delusional if you think there is some real, master answer to Umineko that R07 buried so deep into the VN that ONLY that Italianon faggot found and that he only he can see it. Shkanontrice was in the VN, Shkanontrice was in the manga, you crying over it isn't going to change the answer R07 wrote for his mystery.

>> No.25435978

>>25435793
The VN implies many answers, that's why we discuss it after all these years.
If you want to believe in the answer Ryu07 provided, that's fine. But in that case don't annoy the rest of us who actually thinks about the VN by insisting on your narrow viewpoint every single time.

>> No.25435988

I'm reading about Persona and Harry Potter and wondering if I took a wrong turn somewhere.

>> No.25436025

>>25435988
Hermione had a lewd ass loli butt.

>> No.25436036

>>25435988
Same, let's talk about the size of LATO instead.

>> No.25436069

>R07 thread
>Literally every thread is arguing about Umineko while the other works barely get discussed
Jfc

>> No.25436098

>>25436069
Because umineko is the only 97th vn without a real conclusion

>> No.25436109

>>25435653
>Ok, THEN Bern AND Natsuhi ARE the culpritS(???).
It's not clear what the precise meaning of this sentence is. If the intent is to make a sort of ad absurdum argument, a conjunctive word or phrase is necessary to connect the conclusion to the referenced statements.

>Why DON'T YOU want TO argue?
In English, interrogative adverbs (in complete questioning sentences) are tightly paired with the verb, and should not be separated from it by the noun. "Why is the sky blue?" is grammatically correct, but "why the sky is blue?" is not a complete sentence.

This distinguishes the use of interrogative adverbs from constructions in which the question is actually a subordinate clause, as in "tell me why the sky is blue."

>IS IT so difficult TO think?
In this sentence, "think" is actually acting as an infinitive. Another verb is required to form a complete sentence. Infinitives are not quite nominative enough for a direct comparison to sound natural, so the noun "it" may be introduced to be directly modified by "difficult", standing in for the action "to think". Alternatively (and equally acceptably), this could be phrased as "Is thinking so difficult?" because gerunds function as nouns.

>> No.25436141
File: 388 KB, 587x759, Bernkastel_wink.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436141

>>25435944
>The VN was built up for Shkanontrice since the beginning
Yet you can apply different theories and still come to the same conclusion. What a mystery.
Almost as if the cat box theory Ryu07 built up over all these chapters still holds up even after giving us a "conclusive" answer.

>> No.25436140

where is lambda anon to tell us about schopenhauer and magic instead of this death of the author tier bullshit we have every single fucking thread

>> No.25436159

>>25436141
It's almost like you forgot about Devils Proof and how it works with the story.

>> No.25436181

>>25436141
What other theories do you believe in then?

>> No.25436301

>>25436141
cute bern edit

>> No.25436315
File: 323 KB, 640x480, 1596866735191.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436315

>>25436181
Do you even have to ask?

>> No.25436331

>>25436141
lolibabern

>> No.25436364
File: 55 KB, 204x200, Erika_expectant.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436364

>>25436301
>>25436331
Yeah, she a cutie

>> No.25436405
File: 238 KB, 395x700, culprit.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436405

>>25436315
What are your thoughts on this one?

>> No.25436432
File: 310 KB, 800x783, EXaHyheU8AEh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436432

>>25391609
Based

>> No.25436436
File: 46 KB, 400x800, 1552006040482.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436436

>>25436405

>> No.25436437
File: 86 KB, 1240x336, Umineko_solution.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436437

>>25436405
Very good and very possible.
One of my top contenders after "Mion=Shion".

>> No.25436484

>>25436432
:((((

>> No.25436512

>>25436432
Zel has a literal mark of humiliation on her neck. What a whore.

>> No.25436531
File: 343 KB, 700x993, hiUMAAZ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436531

>>25436484
Please understand Richard was angry at the chinks and Maurice had some pent up military frustrations to release on our dear Oliver please understand
>>25436512
mindblowing!!!

>> No.25436576

>>25436140
Maybe he shouldn't have died if he didn't want us to talk about it.

>> No.25436673

>>25436141
>>25436301
I don't like Bern at all and even I think that's cute.

>> No.25436695
File: 523 KB, 800x1135, 1597419309516.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436695

>Blocks your mafia

>> No.25436705

>>25436364
What other theories hold as much weight as Shakanontrice?

>> No.25436726

>>25436705
Erikantrice since is the true

>> No.25436817

>>25436726
>Erikantrice DOES, since IT is the TRUTH.
>Erikantrice DOES, since IT is true.
Verbs are required, and "is" only appears in a subordinate clause. Because "true" is an adjective, articles such as "the" cannot apply to it. Either the noun form "truth" should be used, or a pronoun such as "it" should be introduced to be modified by "true".

>> No.25436868
File: 316 KB, 800x1082, 1597419734295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25436868

>J-jayden, how nice it is to meet you here! ... It's not like you think, I swear! Miyao lost all of our savings in the earthquake lottery, and I umm... don't worry! I just have to act a little cutesy for the customers to be satisfied. It doesn't go further than that... wait, where are you going...?

>> No.25436927

>>25436705
Erikantrice, unironically.
I don't like Italianon's annoying behavior, but I simply can't refute his theory and haven't seen anyone here who was able to do it.

>> No.25437048

>>25436927
Based
You can hate me like you want but nit haye my theory because you hate me

If i can ask what you like about it?

>> No.25437094

>>25424107
we're at a point where even trap character and tomboy character are considere trans

>> No.25437127

>>25436927

So all it takes for my theory to be legitimate is make a shiftfesto so poorly written and long that nobody would be willing to spend time refuting it? Nice.

(You're a fucking moron, lmao)

>> No.25437148
File: 200 KB, 827x1224, EfWbSDjU8AAZfle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25437148

Ciconias at the beach!

>> No.25437196

>>25437148
Good luck catching the ball, Mion.

>> No.25437208

>>25437148
what will Koshka's new body look like

>> No.25437298

>>25437127
I arguing about it even before the manifesto and no one deny it then i make the manifesto and everyone become BTFO

If my theory is so stupid move your ass and deny it now

>> No.25437372

>>25437127
>too long didn't read lol
Fucking goat, at least pretend you've read it if you are going to shitpost.

>> No.25437432

>>25437148
Where did you find that?

>> No.25437475

>>25437432
Twitter, the place where people post fanart but it's frowned upon here by the Anti-SJW cabal.

>> No.25437476

>>25437048
>You can hate me AS [MUCH AS] you want but DON'T hate my theory because you hate me.
While "as much as you want" is a common idiom, "like" and "as" are not perfect synonyms. "Like" carries more of a connotation of comparing discrete objects or situations ("This sidewalk is like a stove."), and "as" behaves slightly more abstractly ("This sidewalk is as hot as a stove."). That is not a hard rule (counter-examples are easily found), but in this case the two things to be compared (intensities of emotion) are a little too abstract for "like" to feel natural.

>If I can ask, what DO you like about it?
In this form, "what" must be followed by a verb since it serves to introduce a complete interrogation. The sentence could also be written "If I can ask, could you tell me what you like about it?", which would not require a verb since "what" acts as an object to the verb "tell".

>> No.25437536

>>25437208
Pathetic, humiliating, lewd and with a literal ass.

>> No.25437539

>>25437476
Extremely based

>> No.25437637

>>25437476
Now do it in Italian.

>> No.25437665

>>25437298
>I WAS arguing about it even before the manifesto and no one denIED it. Then i maDe the manifesto and everyone becAme BTFO.
"Arguing" is a gerund, and so acts as a noun. To apply it to "I" requires a connecting verb. English also tends to prefer past tense to present, when the actions described are in a completed state.

>If my theory is so stupid, move your ass and deny it now.
While a relatively minor point, separating clauses with punctuation tends to make English much more readable.

>> No.25437668

>>25437475
It's frowned upon for a good reason. It's full of SJWs and most artists have migrated there, where their most controversial work gets them harassed by SJWs. And even the tamer artists are making a mistake by posting there. Their art gets lost very easily and becomes difficult to preserve or even find, while only giving the artist a superficial sense of achievement with all the retweets and shit. It's godawful in the long run. Twitter is not an art site.

>> No.25437761

>>25437668
Zoomers and trannies love twitter because they are obsessed with validation and shit. You post some gay woke shit and say "read umineko" and literally get a ton of followers and retweets from the hivemind.

>> No.25437803

People attacking grammar instead of argumenting. Thank you, 7th general. I'm proud of you.

>> No.25437859
File: 141 KB, 701x1024, 27fbaee8610868d232152868b06929e29820b6b0_hq.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25437859

>follow relevant 07th expansion people, western fans and eastern fans on twitter
>no drama ever happens
>people don't shitfling or argue about stupid shit

>> No.25437872

>>25437536
Please don't do this to Koshka.

>> No.25437917

>>25437859
Nice Beatrice in the Pic

>> No.25437978

>>25437859
>follow relevant 07th expansion people, western fans and eastern fans on twitter
There was already a shitstorm about fan-service in the new Higu anime.
>no drama ever happens
As long as you don't wrong think sure.
>people don't shitfling or argue about stupid shit
People don't argue at all or even discuss the VNs they just woke and virtue signal and tranny post for attention and validation.

>> No.25438116

>>25437978
Works on my machine. :^)

>> No.25438276
File: 340 KB, 1282x752, lotto_winner.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25438276

What do you think Gunhild did with her earthquake lotto winnings? I imagine she bets on the entire world every time, and not just the one time in the fragment.

>> No.25438446
File: 1.15 MB, 1280x720, 459.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25438446

>>25438276
support her "family", probably

>> No.25438526
File: 80 KB, 900x900, EduJnImXkAMIKKE_yasuda_sayo_tohya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25438526

>>25437475
Because it's painful to have to scroll through some fucking inane tumblr bullshit about "indigenous trans bodies" or joe biden just to see some nice drawings. I've done it and I hate it.

>> No.25438565

>>25438526
Support Erikantrice and this nigthmere will end

>> No.25438566

>>25437872
Doesn't she literally say her body is pathetic in the ending?

>> No.25438767

>>25438526
I agree, I don't mind people having opinions I disagree with, if someone wants to vote biden I won't think that they're insane or evil or whatever, but if they use twitter chances are they probably are. Twitter consumes people to the point where they just lose their fucking minds and un-learn basic human empathy. It gives me similar vibes as /pol/, in that there's too much self-righteous screaming and trying to "stop the bad guys at all costs" for there to be room for self-reflection.

>> No.25438873

>>25438526
Literally the only way to enjoy twitter in any way is to only follow Japanese artists. I only follow a very small number of english accounts because 99% of them can't stop themselves from posting politics nonstop. I don't care if it's shit I even agree with, it's obnoxious. This whole blm shit with george floyd was actually nice because it helped me root out even more people to not follow.

>> No.25439051

>>25437859
I never liked Twitter until very recently, mostly because of /v/ and the whole screencap or cancel culture, etc. From what I've seen in the French part of the community, it's actually decent as long you don't interact with retards or fall into obivious drama traps, as I like to call them. Moreover, following 07th Japanese draw fags is a real wonder for the eyes. Tons of cute art

>> No.25439311

>>25439051
>Japanese
Save that art as soon as you see it, because they are all schizos who nuke their accounts for no reason and take every step necessary to guarantee their art will be gone from this world.

>> No.25439379
File: 512 KB, 1000x947, 1597425947833.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25439379

>>25439311
Just like how sometimes some pixiv get completely wiped out, I assume. Okay then, every single time I see a good pic I'll save it.

>> No.25439493

>>25434336
Extract the .iso and run the setup instead of mounting them.
I packaged the install files in an iso, but for some reason when they're mounted, the dashes in the file names are replaced with underscores. So the installer can't find the files. That was my fault for not testing, didn't think there would even be an issue.

I uploaded the files unpackaged and deleted the isos since apparently that didn't work out.

>> No.25439564

>>25439311
I use Hydrus Network to regularly auto grab any and all art from artists I like. From pixiv, booru, artstation, twitter, etc... the tagging organization also helps a ton.
Can be a pain with twitter though because they also post non-art pics, meaning I have to go through and clean them from pending files.

>> No.25439811

>>25439379
>sometimes
>Pixiv
That's an understatement.

>> No.25439862

I've noticed that when you browse 4chan on your phone and save a picture, it's actually a resize if the picture was over a certain size. It happened to me a few times and I confirmed it when I saved the same picture on PC.

Fuck 4chan, seriously.

>> No.25439872
File: 1.65 MB, 1125x1607, __furude_rika_ryuuguu_rena_houjou_satoko_sonozaki_mion_and_maebara_keiichi_higurashi_no_naku_koro_ni_drawn_by_seia_aramaki__62c2235fd652889eac5ae69018a3f6f9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25439872

Have you guys heard the new Higurashi demo tracks?
https://youtu.be/bUrpUUHU-P0
I've been listening to that one for a while, it is quite comfy.

>> No.25439896

>>25439862
And I'm opening the damn thing on an entirely new tab, it's not like I'm saving a thumbail or anything. It's a "full size" version exclusive to phones that is still smaller and has more artifacts than the original you'd get if you opened the picture on your computer.

>> No.25440121

>>25439862
obligatory "lmao, seethe mobilefags" comment

>> No.25440268

>>25438276
Did she work with Dr. Mario? Maybe it's insider trading...

>> No.25440477

>>25436069
That's mostly because a lot of new people got into Umineko and ask some questions, and through the discussion there are anons that misunderstood some point on the VN, then one thing leading to another Umineko is mostly talked. Let's not forget italianon that trigger some people and get into arguing about Umineko.
Well, now there is Umineko threads on /v/ everyday so people can ask their questions without italianon.

>> No.25440484

>>25434771
Ma la smetti di renderti ridicolo? Non hai capito un cazzo della Visual Novel da 100+ ore che hai letto. Cambia il titolo di quella teoria di merda, correggine la grammatica, smetti di comportarti da autistico stereotipato e forse la gente ti prenderà più seriamente.

>> No.25440553
File: 152 KB, 300x450, Pasterika.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25440553

>>25440477
>ask their questions without italianon
Hmm irrc I've seen him sometimes on /v/, or maybe it wasn't him but the Italianon manifesto appears sometimes on those threads.
>>25440484

>> No.25440663

>>25434636
She's got a loli arse, that's kinda...

>> No.25440705

>>25440121
It's not just mobilefags. Everyone is fucked if mobilefags save degraded pictures and post them. You'll be saving those yourself without realizing it.

>> No.25441001

>>25440705
>not using Kuroba or clover

>> No.25441166

Do you know Beatoriche-sama?

>> No.25441253

>>25439862
Just use clover? You're already on mobile, why make it even worse for yourself by using the browser?

>> No.25441460

>>25441166
Yes, Rokkenjima!

>> No.25441625

Sub-Theory : "Fukuin House" is an homonculus research lab :
- Kinzo never had a child with OG Beatrice
- he gave funds to "Fukuin House" to perfect a technology that could create artificial humans
- he may have named Nanjo the director
- whenever the term furniture is used in a non-fantasy setting, it refers to the homonculus
- Genji is the first functionnal homonculus, modeled after an old friend of Kinzo. The homonculus is imperfect and likely made without the flesh of the old friend, and therefore diverges a lot from the model.
- Kuwadorian Beatrice was a legit perfect homonculus. No incest !
- Lion is a Beatrice III functional homonculus and also a guy because Nanjo don't want to repeat what happened with Beatrice II
- Kanon and Shannon are a somewhat failed Beatrice III, twins where there should have been only one homonculus
- this fact hampers both homonculus lifespan and health and they have to take some rare medicine to stay alive, or else their cells will lose structure and they will dust off
- as they get closer to adulthood, the quantity of medicine grows and soon after 1986 they wouldn't be able to get enough for both of them
- Fukuin House is now chain producing homonculus for profit and provides their OG sponsor Ushiromiya with servants as a treat

>> No.25441831
File: 117 KB, 500x500, Dlanor_CGI-6760.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25441831

>>25441625
>perfect a technology
Knox's 4th
It is forbidden for unknown drugs or hard to understand scientific devices to be used.

The trial is now FINISHED. FINISHED. FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED FINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHEDFINISHED! <Die the Death>! <Sentence to Death>!!<The Great Equalizer is Death>!!

>> No.25442081

>>25440484
fuck off
you dont understand nothing of this VN
read my manifesto and stop be such a cuck

show to me the errors of my thery if you think is dumb
o yes there arent errors

>> No.25442769

>>25441625
sci-fi umineko is cool

>> No.25443231
File: 133 KB, 689x1000, episode_8_kanon_shannon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25443231

Reminder that when Battler wrote episode 8 he made Kanon strong enough to lift the bags by himself.

>> No.25443303

>>25441625
This is a theory? I thought it was canon.
Genji confirms in the third chapter that he was created by Kinzo as the first "furniture".

>> No.25443505

>>25443303
In the fantasy canon of Umineko, Ronove indeed assisted Kinzo in creating servants for the mansion or something like that iirc
This is a more sci-fi take on the whole furniture stuff

>> No.25443585

>>25407074
It's Kotohogushi and Mio Omote stuff I guess.

>> No.25443681

What's the deal with loli arse? Why is it a thing?

>> No.25443974

>>25443681
Because Gosh made it so.

>> No.25444226

>>25442081
>Fuck off.
Only capitalization and punctuation.

>You don't understand ANYTHING ABOUT this VN.
>You understand NOTHING ABOUT this VN.
Negatives in English cause cancellation, not intensification. So "You don't understand nothing" means "You understand something". While "of" can be used in place of "about", it has a slightly melodramatic tone, as in "You understand nothing of a woman's heart!".

>Read my manifesto and stop beING such a cuck.
"Stop", while semantically dealing with actions, syntactically requires a noun to modify as a direct object. Using a gerund allows stop to act on an entire subordinate clause.

>Show me the errors of my theOry if you think IT is dumb.
Indirect objects in English do not usually require prepositions. The sentences "Throw John the ball" and "throw the ball to John" are equally acceptable. In this setup, when a preposition is used with an indirect object, the indirect object and the verb serve to close off the direct object, so the indirect object must come after the direct object.

It would be technically correct to write "show the errors of my theory to me if you think it is dumb," but when the direct object is sufficiently long (or includes modifying clauses of its own), this can sound a bit unnatural.

>OH YEAH, there aren't ANY.
"Yes" is significantly more formal than "yeah", so using it in a highly conversational situation like this feels unnatural. In the same way, repeating the word "errors" feels out of place when a pronoun would be unambiguous. Lastly, "O" without a trailing "h" is rather archaic, and is usually used for speaking to or about some particular entity ("O Captain! My Captain!").

>> No.25444380

>>25444226
Thank you GrammAnon for your services in keeping ItaliAnon at bay.

>> No.25444663

>>25444226
thanks anon for thisfree english course
still a shit language but i enjoy your dedication

>> No.25444858

Ok guys, I think I MIGHT be onto something regarding the 1994 fragment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_de_Coubertin
https://anonymissmilitia.wordpress.com/tag/pierre-de-coubertin-freemason/
The father of modern Olympics was a freemason and 1994 was the year of the winter olympics in Norway.

Also
>WW3 -> WW4
miyo

>> No.25444869

>>25444858
>WW3 -> WW4
Aww shiet I never noticed.

>> No.25445020

>>25444858
>WW3 -> WW4
RYUKISHIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

>> No.25445161

>>25436512
She canonically has a destroyed anus that doesn't close properly. How come she doesn't receive the same level of humiliation as Ange?

>> No.25445221

Is the "Hey Brawler" fat GDS guy the same one that Leo trained with early on?

>> No.25445355

>>25445161
Was Ange's anus destroyed as well?
In that case, who did it? Was it a fierce anal punishment session by Aunt Eva in rememberance of her beloved George, or did her female classmates all bully her little asshole together, slowly increasing its width as they continued their playful teasing while Ange cried shameful tears and plunged deeper into her escapist delusions?

>> No.25445548

>>25445161
>implying they would actually ruin her anus and decrease her market value

>> No.25445569

>>25445161
Zel a cute. Ange is an angsty teenager who thinks she's hot shit despite having no life experience beyond being humiliated by her peers.

>> No.25445604

>>25434636
>chinks call her Hsiao-lan
>Witch Hunt calls her Xiaolan
>credits call her Meilan
Moonrunes were a mistake.

>> No.25445676

>>25437978
>There was already a shitstorm about fan-service in the new Higu anime.
It's not even out yet?

>> No.25446301

>>25445355
What if loli Ange randomly got murdered at age 10 by a crazy ass Nevada-tan classmate who got mad when Ange called her a goody-goody, goody2shoes?

>> No.25446407

>>25437978
What fanservice? We haven't even seen any remotely suggestive art released in promotion.

>> No.25446494

>>25445676
>>25446407
I don't know if you are samefagging or if you actually fell for it, but there haven't been any shitstorms.

>> No.25446525

>>25446494
Not same-fagging.
>fell for it
Fell for what? I was asking what there could have been a shitstorm over if there was one. I'm not a twitter fag, so I don't keep up with what they screech about.

>> No.25446980

>>25446525
Almost any "shitstorm" on twitter etc you hear about on /jp/ is nothing more than a few tweets.
Some retards blow it out of proportion every time to fan the hatred between woke trannies and based incels because they want to have their frail, antagonistic mindset reinforced.

>> No.25452352
File: 30 KB, 240x296, EKAGM81XUAA5tlK.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25452352

What happened to the rom for this? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

>> No.25452377

finished umineko
what do I do now? is there like an epilogue?

>> No.25452446
File: 54 KB, 640x480, myself.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25452446

>>25452377
Read Erikantrice Manifesto then reread umineko to discover the real truth of Umineko
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

Erika is Kanon
Erika become Kanon, Save Battler then return Erika
this is the logic error solution

>> No.25452457
File: 1.52 MB, 1920x1080, 1567323550046.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25452457

>>25452377
Read saku.

>> No.25452556

>>25452457
the Last Note thing?

>> No.25452590

>>25452457
I mean there's also "confession" kinda stuff in Saku
discounting the other two fandiscs,

I'd like to know which parts to read becuase I ain't reading fanservice shit

>> No.25452684
File: 79 KB, 1280x720, photo_2020-05-27_10-53-55.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25452684

>>25452590
all of them since all of them are 2 mistery in which Erikantrice is confirmed as truth

>> No.25452723

>>25452556
Yes, but
>>25452590
Both confession and last note are a fanservice.

>> No.25452828

>>25452723
ah shit
well I mean saikoroshi for higurashi was a pretty cool piece, idk (tho now I guess it was pretty useless after all)

>> No.25454008

>>25446980
Ah, but what would happen if the woke crowd gained enough influence to react to those "few tweets" in an organized way? It'd be the same shit we've seen in every other hobby they've successfully infiltrated, wouldn't it? They'd find a pretext for feeling collectively outraged and indignant and start pressuring people to conform to their idea of morality or else. If noone successfully resisted they'd soon become the dominant cultural force and almost impossible to get rid of.
And that's why people shit on them while they still have a chance, to create costs for people who may want to join the cult and make them reconsider. It's reactionary and mean, I agree, but it's the obvious consequence when you try to play power politics. In a way it's the same as protesting and no-platforming actual nazis, you know, not anyone with a right-leaning opinion on a controversial issue or two, but people who will try to ruin your life if they can once they see you as a threat to their cause.

>> No.25454607

>>25452446
Please explain Kanon's death in Alliance. In your theory Kanon is the 10th victim (according to your explanation Jessica was killed after Gohda's and Kumasawa's death). This contradicts "Kanon is the 9th victim". Also, your definition for people=bodies. Kanon (dressed as Beatrice) couldn't have met Battler and George had to be be remaining killer which wouldn't be possible because Battler found him dead before meeting Beatrice.

>> No.25454949

>>25454607
Victims

Eva,Hideyoshi,Rudolph;Natsuhi,Rosa,Kumasawa,Gohda,Jessica

then Kanon died
9th victim maybe i wrote bad in my manifesto thanks for advice me i will fix it

>George had to be be remainin Killed
Meanwhile Kanon was killing the group, George with the help of Genji was making holes in the head of 1st twligth victims ( killed by poison ) then he shot at Genji and go to met Kanon in the garden

>> No.25455344

Since Yasu was an eunuch, it's simply logical for Miyao to be a futanari.

>> No.25458019

Can Satoko (en pelotas) defeat Dlanor (con lentes)?

>> No.25464462

>>25434966
>asses are disgusting
I beg to differ.

>> No.25465388

>>25458019
Only if she gets help from Ange (con diarrea)

>> No.25465862
File: 103 KB, 352x480, battler pelador blanco.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25465862

>>25458019
>>25465388
How would Battler (pelador blanco) fare in a fight?

>> No.25465901

>>25458019
This reminds me of when my loli neighbor and classmate accidentally opened the door topless when I went to invite her to the pool. I didn't have my glasses on and didn't see anything, fuck my life.

>> No.25465939

>>25465862
That's not funny, dude. He's a cripple. How dare you!

>> No.25465993

>>25465939
In terms of meta shit though he's pretty strong

>> No.25466437

>>25452457
Hast it been translated?

>> No.25466576

>>25465901
Pls FBI arrest this fucking Pedo

>> No.25468069

>>25465993
Yeah he'd be Featherine level I guess

>> No.25468569

>>25468069
Isn't he Featherine, though?

>> No.25470215

>>25465862
Somehow the PS3 sprites manage to fuck up even your perception of Tohya as a cripple. I mean, in the original he kinda looks like he's standing up but not really. I's ambiguous, so it works. In the PS3 sprite he is very clearly standing because the perspective lets you see a bit more of him, which makes it easy to forget he's wheelchair-bound.

>> No.25470902

>>25470215
This is the dumbest take. There's no ambiguity to his sprite. Putting aside its the same sprite body as Battler, he doesn't appear to be "standing up but not really", he's just straight up standing. Christ, I prefer the OG over PS3, but you're reaching at something that isn't even there. Pulling reasons out of your ass for sprite superiority.

P-PS3 sprites mess up even being transparent. They don't have that distracting white border that the OG sprites do. That white border separates the sprites from the backgrounds, giving things more of a fantastical mood. R07 really knew what he was doing.

That aside, honestly how hard would it have been to make an actual cripple sprite? Literally just lower the sprite and draw a couple wooden bars behind him.

>> No.25476621

I just want Phase 2 news so I can reread Phase 1

>> No.25477084

>>25476621
I don't want Phase 2 news because I don't want to have to reread Phase 1 god please no don't I don't want to have to go through that shit again

>> No.25477091

>>25477084
seethe

>> No.25477600

Let's imagine you're playing a game. The game is called "stand on the spot". The goal of the game is to find a spot and stand on it. In order to find out where the spot is, you have to solve a series of puzzles and riddles. This is really enjoyable and you really like doing it, spending hours online discussing, debating, figuring things out. You really appreciate the way that stand on the spot makes you actually work to figure things out and doesn't just hand you the answers. Then, after countless hours of work, you figure out that the spot must be in Yasu village. So you go and stand on the spot...and nothing happens. No credits roll, no congratulatory message appears, nothing. Confused, you go online, and find out that most people are pretty sure it's in Yasu village too, but there's a couple people who think the spot is in Rosa mountains. But when they go and stand in Rosa mountains, the credits don't roll either, so that means they're probably wrong too. Eventually, you go and look up author interviews, and he says that stand on the spot was never really about standing on the spot, it was about why the constant pursuit of standing on the spot was a bad thing, and by not rolling the credits and telling you you got it right when you stand on the spot, you can keep discussing stand on the spot forever. So you go back to stand on the spot, but because you know that you'll never get that moment of catharsis, you'll never get the credits to roll, you'll never be able to finally, definitively prove that the spot you stood on was the right one, you can't enjoy the game anymore. Sure, all the evidence points to the spot you chose being right, and when you go back and look things over you can basically confirm it, but you'll never get the credits to roll, you'll never get that final, indisputable proof. All the fun has been sucked out of stand on the spot, and even your happy memories of when you enjoyed it are now tainted.

This is a metaphor for Umineko.

>> No.25478209 [DELETED] 

>>25477600
cope

>> No.25478622

>>25477600
Have you heard about the Umineko manga

>> No.25479944

>>25476621
Just re-read it if you want to. There's a lot of interesting things to see when you already know how it ends. These kids really are pieces.

>> No.25481480

is umineko anti-plotfag?

>> No.25485035

If Gohda was truly hired by Krauss and Natsuhi, did Yasu really do everything he said? That's pretty pathetic. They're a billionaire, and they spend their time pretending to be a menial servant and getting bossed around by some douche. Imagine how Nanjo, Genji, and Kumasawa feel.

>> No.25485985

>>25477600
You won't get credit roll in real life

>> No.25494213
File: 38 KB, 232x428, Erika_Furudo2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25494213

>>25477600
That's probably the best metaphor for Umineko.. no, for any game, I've ever read.
Luckily, I already found my spot and it's so firm, so comfortable, that I just know it's got to be the right one.

https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

>> No.25494276

>>25485035
It's pathetic, but I wouldn't say it's lewd or disgusting. Also, Gohda wasn't really Shannon/Kanon's boss. The head of the servants is still supposed to be Genji.

>> No.25496042

I feel like Ryukishi initially wanted to have a whole mini vr tournament arc at the outset to introduce the cast, would that have been more dynamic than just skipping to the public bath scenes, or would it have been too slow?

>> No.25496530

>>25496042
Actually showing the Battle Standard Festival play out I think would've kind of taken away from the super prominent degrading pacifism aspect of the story. A bunch of kids kind of hanging out on social media after the fact makes a lot more sense.

>> No.25496816

>>25496530
sure, but you could counteract that by writing the contest like a classic sports festival, with everyone playing fair because they're just kids having fun, fighters being disqualified for using underhanded tactics, some kids holding back their true abilities, others going all out because they don't realize that they're showing their hand (with a few cut-aways at the adult supervisors who would comment about the kids not taking this seriously enough), and then you could bring all of that back in the climax. Someone who always played fair in the tournament stops giving a shit about honor when it's life or death, some gauntlet knights have a rematch of their tourney battle and it goes vastly differently and so on.

>> No.25497842

>>25496816
I'd be even less alright with the idea if it was written like this. Let's just keep the shonen anime stuff where it belongs.

>> No.25497871

>>25497842
in the most shounen anime vn Ryukishi has ever written?

>> No.25497884

>>25497871
That's not Higurashi Rei

>> No.25497915

>>25497871
cope

>> No.25497926

>>25497915
seethe

>> No.25497959

>>25497884
RGD Season 2 was actually way worse than that especially when it even showed all the antagonists from Season 1 walked away totally fine. Season 3 and 4 are tonally so different from 2 it's kind of silly.

>> No.25498059

>>25497871
Ciconia is pretty much the polar opposite of a shonen series where most of the action happens off screen and the characters are at the mercy of how a global community the reader has no personal investment in reacts to things, which is probably why people like you are so dissatisfied with it

>> No.25500297

>>25497959
Season 2 is shonen done right.

>> No.25501219

>>25494213
Based anon

>> No.25501379

Why is roriarse such a common topic in these threads? I've seen my fair share and they aren't that remarkable.

>> No.25501783

>>25501379
shitposting is about repetition and alteration of arbitrary units of information in such a way that it can not be easily ignored and colors ones experience of everything it attaches itself to. it's a mockery of communication. loli arse is insignificant, what matters is that you'll never be able to look at a R07 work the same.

>> No.25502133

>>25501379
>Why is roriarse such a common topic in these threads?
it's simply mindblowing

>> No.25503667

>>25501379
Lolis find butts funny. Teenarse is humiliation bait, though.

>> No.25504055

>>25498059
Ryukishi clearly went to some length to flesh out the whole gauntlet magic system (shields, ricochet dodging, dimensional containers) and the abilities of the individual characters to make them distinct. I fully expect later episodes to focus more on aerial combat.

>> No.25504916

>>25501783
Anyone who's ever read Umineko already wanted to humiliate Ange. She just happens to be forever associated with humiliation through memes.

>> No.25505038

>>25500297
I'd do that shonen (Miyao) if you catch my drift

>> No.25505283

>>25465901
what the fuck...

>> No.25505297

the intro and setting for ciconia really made me think we were about to get some paul verhoeven level dark satire

what could have been

>> No.25505907
File: 61 KB, 160x240, D3hujDbW0AAycAR-orig.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25505907

https://twitter.com/harleequins1/status/1295084100466941954?s=20

Can someone explain to me why there's so much hate for George? I've seen people call him an incel and say he's the "worst character in Umineko" and base this on him being edgy and dumb as a teenager and having self esteem issues (which he grew out of). But then try to excuse characters like Eva whose terrible parenting was one of the main causes of his issues and Natsuhi who literally killed an innocent maid and tried to murder a child (but it's okay, the patriarchy forced her to do it).

>> No.25505951

>>25505907
With any fandom, twitterfags are the worst. Just ignore them. People with dumb opinions are going to exist and nothing will change that.

>> No.25505987

>>25505907
because he's an incel and a pedo groomer!!!!!1

>> No.25506025
File: 158 KB, 1306x2048, c5699fdcc34ece0e97a4e49054b01176.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25506025

>>25505907
George is for the most part a good representation of the nerdy/nice guy that repulses 99% of girls. Not that it matters anyway tho, if you replaced his design with something like (pic related) he would receive a lot less hate even tho it would make no sense for his character, take your conclusions from that.

>> No.25506086

>>25505907
I think they hate him because George hide Battler's letter to Shannon which was the beginning of Sayo's descent into hell.

>> No.25506119

>>25506025
yeah george is a gamer pretty much
>>25506086
was it there in the first place tho? I don't remember

>> No.25506125

>>25506086
I thought that was pure speculation and there was no evidence of that happening.

>> No.25506148

>>25506086
his sin is fairly minor, it happened to be one of the deciding factors from a consequentialist perspective, but George couldn't have known that. Natsuhi knew what she was doing, Kinzo, Genji and Nanjo knew what they were doing.

>> No.25506294

>>25505907
Girls and gays hate George because it reminds them of their greatest fear, "unattractive", privileged men.

>> No.25506346

>>25505907
ignore twitter trannies whose only love umineko because R07 used gender as a theme for his VN, when those fucking retards can't even understand what george is going thorugh and moking him because he is awkward and fat. You can also identify them if they like fata morgana its all the same.

>> No.25506349

>>25506125
It is. They believe in that theory.

>>25506148
Exactly. Solving the epitaph was actually what make everything worse for Sayo.

>> No.25506355

>>25506294
nah dog it's really just because he's like the embodiment of "nice guy" or "virgin" or "incel", or whatever
also as you might know, incels are dangerous because they are like extremists who can shoot up schools.
this is why he's hated, I guess

>> No.25506407

what about grooming underage shannon into dating him?

>> No.25506414

>>25506349
The only thing that made anything worse for Sayo was Sayo herself. She had every means available to get out and become happy.

>> No.25506468

>>25506407
it was the 80's, he could be 10years her elder and nobody would care. There were 30yo rock stars having sex with 14yos and no one cared.

>> No.25506486

>>25506468
yeah but we are in 2020's now
and now we care

>> No.25506499

>>25506486
you're just having a giggle, right?

>> No.25506515

>>25506349
I mean, it's sort of weird that Battler forgot Shannon. Then again, Battler IS portrayed as inconsequential fool so who knows
I can see insecure teenage Georges hiding the letter however, which is a pretty cruel and dumb thing to do, but he is 15 come on

>> No.25506528

>>25506499
I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this
playing devil's advocate is a good tool for that

>> No.25506545

The whole fucking thing is dumb because George already grew out of it. Unlike the rest of the cast he learned from his past mistakes.

>> No.25506557

>>25506486
>>25506528
Trying to get to the bottom of what? You can't judge people's choices and actions without context and from your perpective alone. That's one of the main themes of Umineko.

>> No.25506563

>>25506545
but see.... he's been dating 16yo shannon for years
and he's 23....

>> No.25506589

>>25506563
I'm unironically okay with this age gap.

>> No.25506615

>>25506557
but dude...... dating a..... kid

>> No.25506628

>>25506486
>>25506528
>>25506563
>I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this
playing devil's advocate is a good tool for that

Nah, you're probably just a mentally ill woke tranny from twitter, maybe the one who made one of the posts that sparked all this discussion.

>> No.25506681

>>25506528
I think the whole cluster of ideas around consent, grooming, age gaps, power dynamics, etc. is less cleanly defined than we collectively like to pretend. George didn't "groom" Yasu. Even from his limited perspective Shannon had a lot of money saved up, meaning that she could live her own life, so she was free to choose to reject him. George and the people in his social environment would have considered what he was doing perfectly moral courting.

>> No.25506775

>>25506681
yeah
I always thought that power dynamics were like a natural thing in sexual relationships, and I wouldn't have it any other way
should george have gone
>c-can I d-d-date you p-please?
of course not, it's not attractive, it's fucking pathetic. trannies don't know what they fucking want
age gap is something different, I personally just don't understand people 5 years younger than me at all, so I wouldn't
shannon tho looks like a timid tradwife type, which is cute wifable as heck
grooming is...... idk sounds like a zoomer word, and trannies don't really have a right to accuse someone of that, knowing their practices

>> No.25506823

>>25506775
>zoomers
>trannies
>tradwife
you need to get out of your bubble just as badly as the twitter twatters.

>> No.25506854

>>25506823
bruh are you literally admonishing me for using meme words that people on the internet use all the time anyway?

>> No.25506857

>>25506823
Not him but only tradwife means what you're trying to imply.

>> No.25506872

>>25505907
He's an Elliot Rodger ripoff.

>> No.25506958

>>25506857
oh, not when a post has this high of a concentration of slang words. they sort of add up and form a bigger picture.
>>25506854
I wouldn't have mentioned that if your opinions hadn't also conformed exactly with the impression your word choices gave me.
>grooming is...... idk sounds like a zoomer word
someone who has this level of understanding of how societies perspective on sexuality has changed over the past decade has no business confidently spouting their opinion on it. you're either dangerously oblivious or making excuses for your own fantasies - the "power dynamics are just hot, no? no use thinking any more about it beyond that." attitude also points in that direction.

>> No.25507072

>>25506407
Grooming underages is manipulative, but nowhere near as evil as SJWs think. They treat it like it's worse than murder.

>> No.25507122

>>25506958
idk man what is your definition of changed perspectives on sexuality?
also you probably have your own impression of power dynamics
if you like you can tell me when it's bad and when it's good, if it can be good ofc

>> No.25507131

>>25506775
>trannies don't know what they fucking want
Does it matter? Nobody wants them anyway.

>> No.25507178

>>25507131
I mean, that's just objectively not true. are you just trying to be mean to the imaginary tranny living rent free in your head?

>> No.25507215

>>25507178
I wouldn't be mean if she did sex to me

>> No.25507692

>>25507215
fair enough

>> No.25508523

>>25507178
The tranny in my head had a mental breakdown and killed itself when it saw all the naked lolis floating around.

>> No.25508568

>>25508523
wow, what a faggot. if I were an imaginary tranny I'd be overjoyed to share your head with a harem of imaginary lolis.

>> No.25508790
File: 89 KB, 1010x1138, ange fat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25508790

>> No.25508844

>>25508790
that's a lot of burger meat

>> No.25508868

>>25508844
For you.

>> No.25508973

>>25508568
Lolis've got arses. Holding hands with a cute loli is exactly the same as licking toilets.

>> No.25508992

>>25508973
just from the existence of loli ass, this level of reasoning is possible for anonymous!

>> No.25509015
File: 291 KB, 768x256, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25509015

>>25505907
he is anti-Semitic and also a fatass

>> No.25509324
File: 42 KB, 298x298, kerokero.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
25509324

We'll get archive soon poyo!

>> No.25509381

>>25506515
Battler literally states that he forgot about Shannon in the ep7 tea party and his melodramatic romantic behavior as a teen, which made her fall for him in the first place, is portrayed to have been his typical style towards any girl even in the earlier chapters.

>> No.25509669

Why is Matsuribayashi so bad?

>> No.25509863

>>25509669
Because you had higher expectations and are not satisfied with the conclusion to a story you like really much.

>> No.25509932

>>25508973
Damn, how pathetic! No wonder Midori-chan got bullied! Princesses aren't supposed to be arse-having losers!

>> No.25510270

>>25509669
It's actually the best. Minagoroshi and Tatari are utter ass in comparison because they are all about saving Satoko's smelly ass.

>> No.25510895

I still can't believe we got to see Satoko's unmentionables in the VN and Renaのhuman arse in the anime.

>>
Name
E-mail
Subject
Comment
Action