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Ange's Ushiromiya assets.

>> No.24697445

Imagine being Ange.

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>> No.24697784
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chloe stinks

>> No.24697908

>>24697784
god he's so lucky being able to smell her sweaty aroma, being in his position he must get frequent whiffs
bastard isnt even aware of how blessed he is
I bet when he gives her head a chop, her breasts bounce from the force on her body!
does he get an eyeful everytime? or is he oblivious to the wonderful ripples flowing in front of his face each time he executes a chop?
being low on the ground, I bet he has to use binoculars sometimes to get a better view of their practice, which means he must have frequent opportunities provided to him to look up her dress and take in the view!!
Gah! I am filled with so much envy, it plagues me.

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Why does Battler as a player only observes the board and his piece self on it. But Erika is aware of the game in "reality" and her piece self and player self are the same thing?

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>>24697908
For me, it's shota Ange's sweat

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>>24697304
Ange being asked for paizuri

>> No.24701156

O anima effimera...

>> No.24701229

>>24698002
It's forbidden by Knox and should be regarded as fantasy. The message of them is "Something is wrong with this girl" If she does this in front of other people. Erika is the only "detective" who participate in fantasy battles. How you interprete this is your choice but the official explanation avoided explaining it.

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>>24698002
Erika is Bern's self-insert Mary Sue OC. Lambda is letting her get away with it, since she's the game master.

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Stop not loving Beatrice. You played the fifth episode, remember that whole scene in the church? Beatrice is the good guy. And there is nothing questionable about Sorcerer Battler taking a chick Beatrice and making her into his Beatrice. Definitely nothing questionable about writing a bunch of children's books which praise Beatrice repeatedly.

>> No.24701985

>>24701784
>Beatrice is the good guy.
>guy
correct

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>> No.24702834

>>24702728
even Gohda?

>> No.24702886

>>24702834
I threw him there for crowd scene purposes

>> No.24703020

>>24698002
Because erika is the culprit

>> No.24703091

>>24701364
>mary sue
Lambda goal is make the game never end and she help Erika to win it?

Cmon anon

>> No.24703802

gee ciconia, how come ryukishi lets you have TWO takanos?

>> No.24703944

WHERE THE FUCK IS PHASE 2????

>> No.24704616

THE HATCH IS A GATEWAY FOR REGULAR HUMANS TO TRAVERSE THE FRAGMENTS. THEY ARE TRANSLATING WITCHES MAGIC YOU HEARD IT HERE FOLKS

>> No.24704700

>>24704616
Source? What do you mean?

>> No.24704965

>>24698002
Meta Erika and piece Erika appear to be on the same page, but there is an internal "logic" to piece Erika's actions that justifies her behavior, even if it's just an excuse for Erika to gain an advantage and use her meta knowledge in her favor. She is in total control of her piece, but her behavior makes sense within the gameboard.

Her detective authority in EP5 makes sense in-universe because everyone is in on it. They are all pawns of Yasu and their job is to frame Natsuhi for what they believe is a "fake" crime, taking advantage of this detective wannabe. That's the in-universe explanation of her detective authority, the family is willing to let her examine everything and lead the investigation because that's what they want from her.

She also never met Kanon in EP5. It's made clear several times that, for piece Erika, only a single young servant exists (probably Shannon). She was never introduced to any Kanon. Obviously meta Erika knows about Kanon and knows about the whole "everyone is inside this parlor" red truth. But her piece technically doesn't. So meta Erika gets tricked into thinking Kanon and Shannon are around, not realizing that, within the gameboard reality, her piece never saw them together in any of those scenes, and she never even met Kanon or knew he was a thing. Bitch got fooled by the narration. She had access to meta knowledge and moved her piece in seemingly crazy ways in order to win, but that was her downfall because her disconnect from her piece's non-meta perspective made her fall for the narration tricks.

Her murder spree in EP6 also makes sense in the gameboard, because she's either insane or so cold and logical that re-killing dead people seems like the best solution to catch the culprit and make sure nobody is playing dead. Basically they pulled a fake murder prank on the wrong person and ended up dead.

I'm not saying piece Erika has any autonomy whatsoever, though. Erika is in control and does what she pleases using meta knowledge. But there is still a logic to her actions in the gameboard world, she's not doing anything illogical or influencing people magically. I mean, she is, but from the perspective of the game board reality, nothing impossible is happening and piece Erika herself makes sense as a human character. Her actions don't require any supernatural meta knowledge to "make sense".

>> No.24705000

>>24704965
>She also never met Kanon in EP5.
She is the only one who speak with Kanon is episode 5

Ep6 isnt a mistery if Erika is not the culprit because knox forbit >muh magic as argument

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I was going to say that the "demons' roulette" is an example of a red herring that turns out to be meaningless. But I remember that when Kanon fakes his death in episode 1, he mentions being the 0 in the roulette. It doesn't make sense to think about something like the love duel (Shannon/George and Beatrice/Battler as the red and black, Kanon/Jessica as the 0?), so it might have a different meaning. Both winning (completing the murders) and losing (being found out by Battler) are the desirable outcomes, the red and the black. But if someone had checked Kanon more carefully and discovered he was alive, he would have been found out to be the culprit right away, without Battler understanding anything. That could be the 0.

Damn, even re-reading one scene from Legend makes me realize how lame Phase 1 is by comparison.

>> No.24705487

>>24704965
>Bitch got fooled by the narration
Maybe you got fooled by the narration. Erika cannot use the detective authority if everyone exploit her. The human side used to think Battler's view is objective, yet there is an obvious lie in the narration ignored by Erika and Bernkastel (and Battler+Beatrice): Krauss and Genji returned to the dining room. Also, you're mistaken that Erika didn't met Kanon. The manga was changed these scenes with Shannon+Kanon and became unfaithful to the original.

>> No.24705692

>>24705478
Phase 1 will get better with context from the latter phases you just know it.

>> No.24705830

Ange whispering Mammon as you eat her out and Battler as you dick her down.

>> No.24705868

>>24705830
What a fucking creep

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>>24697304
heh, kinda fun

>> No.24705965

>>24697304
Why do I get turned on by anime tiddies?

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ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
Booru:https://erikce.booru.org

discuss together about the real truth of umineko

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>>24705965
why wouldnt you

>> No.24706314

>>24706145
Kill yourself, schizo.

>> No.24706490

>>24706314
> use a reddit word like schizo
KYS redditor goat if you dont want a civil discussion read umineko because you dont understand nothing

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>> No.24706735

>>24706603
>eva turned into a moe-shit
Literrally souless manga

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>>24702834
>Least involved outsider get killed in a massive family murder
The most tragic one.

>> No.24706819

>>24706735
That scene was moe in the vn retard. I'm not defending the manga though

>> No.24706874

spent a lovely few hours thinking of ange

>> No.24706902

>>24706874
conclusion?

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>>24706767
He's in the golden land in good company now

>> No.24706952

>>24706902
she has decent lewd art

>> No.24706986

>>24705692
Chapter 1 of Higurashi and Episode 1 of Umineko both were great on their own and even work as a standalone story. They were great from the beginning and didnt need context, meanwhile phase 1 is just dissapointingly lame. Maybe r07 is changing his game up and banking it's value on future phases, I don't know, but if it weren't for r07's name attached to it, I wouldnt even bother with phase 2.

>> No.24707052

>>24706986
Chapter one of Umineko was fucking boring on its own.
Almost dropped the series after that.

>> No.24707071

>>24707052
It's the one I most frequently reread, I love it.

>> No.24707256

>>24707052
It has a load of boring parts but even just the boiler room scene is better than anything in Phase 1.

>> No.24707327

i only find chapter 1 of umineko boring after reading the rest of the chapters
chapter 1 when it first come out and on its own is perfectly fine

>> No.24707679

>>24706490
I didn't just read Umineko, I read R07's comments on it and he also confirmed that everything that happened in the manga is 100% canon and that you are completely and utterly wrong and a faggot.

>> No.24707699

>>24706986
R07 obviously doesn't give a fuck anymore. That's why he's making a remake of Higurashi because that's the only popular shit he's ever made that actually earned him money.

>> No.24707765

>>24707699
>is truth because a superior authority said it

So for you magic is the solution for every crime because the author Beatrice said it
Read r07 comment , he confirm that Shkanontrice is just a Mion=Shion rip-off

>> No.24707836

>>24707765
>is truth because a superior authority said it
Not just a superior authority, R07 is literally the god of the When They Cry universe. His words are the ultimate red truth.
>So for you magic is the solution for every crime because the author Beatrice said it
Read the manga dude.

>> No.24707920

>>24707836
>Read the manga dude.
Change,cut and add half of the story tp male Shkanontrice works
Read the VN dude
>r07 god
Mystery books are a love relationship between reader and writer
He cant destroy this relationship if he really love us
Shkanontrice is an insult to all readers but is ok since we all stop thinking and accept the most credible lie as truth

>> No.24707954

>>24707920
>He cant destroy this relationship if he really love us
He doesn't give a fuck about you.
>Shkanontrice is an insult to all readers but is ok since we all stop thinking and accept the most credible lie as truth
I liked the story, so it wasn't an insult to me at all.

Just face it dude, you're delusional.

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>>24707836
K: No, no. If you prepare the proper pattern for the deduction, it’s quite logic, I just thought that maybe those were hints that would be inserted later on.

At the end of EP6 there are two quite logical tricks, which is when Erika was talking about “the right solution to the trick with a method not introduced to the party of readers”. And “That you have to crush them all at the same time”.

comment of ryukishi about ep6 conslusion
at the end there are 2 tricks with a solution who will crush all the readers.
wait but the duel confirm shkanontrice, all the readers know that Kanon=Shannon so why this solution could crush them all?

simple only 1 person on a gillion can discover the real solution, a solution so crazy but at the same time the only solution that can transform the most Meta-game into a mystery ERIKA=KANON

>> No.24708064

>>24707954
>He doesn't give a fuck about you.
He love all us but we betrayl him
>I liked the story, so it wasn't an insult to me at all
This is a mystery so must respect the reader
Imagine lost hours of time trying to resolve an impossible mystery
Literally a backstap

One of the greatest insult of the reader is repetition
In Shkanontrice the solution of the trick are almost the same in every games + everyone is the culprit in 2 games
Literrally an Anti-Mistery solution
Yeap is good as meta solution byt you cant ignore the Love of Battler and Beatrice for the mistery for that

>> No.24708300

>>24706145
You are late

>> No.24708325

>>24708300
Sorry i become a normie and go out instead of figth for the real truth of umineko

>> No.24708518

>>24705487
I'm not talking about the manga. Erika never met Kanon. The scenes where she talks to Kanon are embellishments by Lambda. She's actually talking to Shannon and her piece has no idea Kanon is even a thing. Erika never noticed this because she was viewing the gameboard from a privileged meta position and never bothered with her piece's true perspective. That's why the entire episode has Shannon and Kanon at the same place the whole time, doing the same thing. It's just Shannon for the pieces, Kanon never even showed up outside the tricky narration.

>> No.24708542

>>24706874
Spent a few hours perfecting my Koikatsu Ange model. Now I can finally make some Umineko porn.

>> No.24708550

>>24708518
The detective cant see lies
>muh Battler prospective
Battler saw illusion only when Erika is not around like in every games secodnary characters do when the detective is not around

If not then Maria is the culprit since everything we see can be an illusion
No objective vision no mistery

>> No.24708558

>>24708542
Post it.

>> No.24708559

>>24707954
Stop feeding the troll already. Just ignore him. He's being intentionally obnoxious and typing like a retard on purpose.

>> No.24708575

>>24708559
No one is speaking with you
Make your fucking buissness on reddit

Holy.fucking shit what a fuck are you a fucking bully who force people to not speak with his victim or the fucking communist party

DISGUTING and PATHETIC

>> No.24709063

>>24708558
Not until it's perfect.

>> No.24709075

>>24697304
I think eating ass is gross but I would Ange's

>> No.24709546

>>24709075
You belong in a mental institution. Even the cutest loli in the world wouldn't eat her own ass.

>> No.24709656

>>24709546
Lolis like cute things, so why wouldn't they like loli butt? If anyone belongs in a mental institution it's heterosexual little girls. Tomoyo from CCS is a fucking cunny-loving dyke, which means she's the sanest character in the story.

>> No.24710576

>>24709546
girls aren't aroused by their own asses

>> No.24710839

Higurashi's OST is (mostly) royalty-free music, right? Then shouldn't we have high-quality versions of the songs straight from the original artist?

>> No.24711338

>>24710839
I believe Ryu used some awful program to equalize the audio back in the day (because some tracks sounded much louder than others). It succeeded but the resulting audio files were full of clipping issues.

The Steam update kinda replaces the songs with slightly less clippy versions, but it also straight up replaces many of the iconic tracks with completely different shit that doesn't fit at all.

You could look for the original artists, but knowing Japs they probably nuked all their stuff for no reason years ago.

I remember some Youtube channel that uploaded higher quality versions of the Higurashi tracks, though. I don't remember the name, but the video titles included the name of each track along with some other stuff and the video itself was (I think) a picture of Hinamizawa or some sort of forest.

>> No.24711339

>>24709546
still gonna eat it though

>> No.24711525

>>24711339
There's nothing appetizing about a human asshole, unless your goal is to humiliate Ange and trample all over her dignity while you remember her edgy lines and angsty attitude that seem really pathetic now.

>> No.24712839

Did the Mountain Dogs move Teppei Houjo's corpse in Tatarigoroshi? Why does Satoko claim that he's still alive?

>> No.24713237

>>24710839
That's not how midi works. What the original artists basically did was upload a sheet music file. R07 ran them through a cheap shitty synth to create the soundtrack. Anyone can make a "high-quality" version of the tracks since the midi files are still up. Sound effects will always be fucked tho unless you find a nice replacement or a sound engineer tries to recreate them as best as possible.

>> No.24713429

>>24712839
Her symptoms getting worse.

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>freaks out at the idea that Meow might have a dick
This pink haired motherfucker is more heterosexual than Battler, George or Willard.

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Ushiromiyas are a cute and functioning family.

>> No.24715017

>>24697304
Why do I not get to see Ange's naked breasts?

>> No.24717800

>>24712839
It was Mion who ordered to move his corpse.

>> No.24720212

So do I play Umineko with the 07th mod, or the Umineko Project version? I think I prefer the look of the original sprites, but is there anything notable about the Umineko Project version? Which translation do people think is better?

>> No.24721505

>>24720212
All you get is a worse translation, worse animations and immersion breaking CGs in a completely different art style.

Just play the Steam version vanilla. Or better yet, the original PC version with the old Witch Hunt English patch.

>> No.24722410

>>24720212
Ignore the contrarians, play 07th mod (obviously)

>> No.24722478

>>24720212
I used to think that UP's translation was much worse, but they must have improved a lot since, because I read steam and UP side by side and found them to be fairly equal in quality. There was even one specific scene I remember that was a great example of how much UP sucked, it epitomized the problem, but upon going to that scene to show a friend a few months ago, it was completely changed. So at this time, the TLs are about the same. They were said to be in direct contact with r07 for steam's tl, but nobody knows the scope of what that entails, it could have just been the exact wording of a couple red lines for all we know.. As far as implementing the ps3 assets, UP is leagues over 07th-mod. The animated effects, the UI, etc... The sprites more frequently change expressions to match the character's mood so theyre not so static during a lot of scenes.

PS3 or not? That's up to you. Read whatever way you find most enjoyable. 07th or UP? Depends on which TL you want to read with. You can read them side by side for a bit and compare them yourself if you want to.

>>24721505
>original PC + witch hunt
literally why?
the steam tl is vastly better
is animated rain that precious to you?

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>>24720212
Compare for yourself. Left is PS3 (07th Mod), Middle is PC, and Right is Original.

>> No.24722707

>>24722530
PS3 Rosa really is horrendous

>> No.24722753

>>24722530
He's not concerned with sprites, anon.
He already said he prefers the originals.
also, >middle is PC
I think you mean middle is pachinko. Original sprites are also PC.

>> No.24723792

>>24722530
Nothing good with the Mangagamer one. Ryukishi is always good and Alchemist is pleasant to look at while also having the 'an*me' feeling.

>> No.24723945

>>24722530
OG Jessica is so fucking cute.

>> No.24723964

>>24723792
>the 'an*me' feeling
I wish it looked like an 80s anime. That clean, shiny look from modern anime is pretty lame.

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>>24723964
80s Ange would have a nude bath scene with a Gunbuster tier bush.

>> No.24724407

>>24700740
Why are Ushiromiya breasts (especially Ange's) so good

>> No.24725511
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Would Ange listen to angsty music?

>> No.24725565

>>24722478
Steam's TL are from Witch Hunt, they rework a bit the translation for the MangaGamer edition on Steam. It's pratically the same. Plus, WH have close contact with Ryukishi07, hence the simul-release of Ciconia.

>> No.24725594

>>24725565
This. But I still like the original Witch Hunt translation more. It's slightly less accurate here and there, but it's mostly the exact same shit. I don't like how they fixed some iconic lines from Kinzo to make them more accurate or word them better.

>> No.24725669

>>24722478
Static rain is garbage. It defeats the point of using rain in the first place and covers the background picture without moving an inch, ruining that too.

>> No.24725734

Post memes

>> No.24725779

>>24725669
Also, static rain was not an artistic decision, unlike the original rain. It was a lazy way to still have rain after porting Umineko to the shitty Mangagamer engine that makes sprites glitch out sometimes when they appear. The decision to use this new engine instead of the old one was purely a commercial one, because they wanted a new engine that allowed for sprite switching. All so they could include their crappy pachinko shit that nobody wanted.

>> No.24725790

>>24725734
Why was Bern so soft as the game master?

You know how the pasta follows.

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>>24722530
Why does pachinko Battler look like a professional NTR guy who steals your waifu at the beach and turns her into his personal cumdump? Though I suppose he kind of did that to Jooji.

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>>24725734

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>>24725734

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>>24726333
Satoko's arch-enemy

>> No.24726873

>>24726799
No, because he's...furniture.

>> No.24726953

>>24726799
Satoko's arch-enemy is her literal loli ass that prevents her from having true dignity.

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>>24725734

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>>24725734

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do guys really?

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>>24727462
Indeed.

>> No.24727583

The real mystery is why are you guys still reading this shit

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>>24725734
Not a meme, but a theory.

>> No.24727662

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNBqMeWMzzU

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>>24727662

>> No.24727747

>>24727583
Ole Library of Babel dilemma I suppose

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Sonozaki Zion, the heir to jewish yakuza syndicate of Hinamizwa

>> No.24727836

>>24727429
Wait, where does this Virgilius guy appear? Is he really in Last Note or is this a fan edit of the sketches?

He kinda looks like a gay version of Oliver.

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>>24727818
That's one long nose you have there!

>> No.24727853

>>24727694
I'm the pedoest guy around and I feel nothing for Rika. I just like her as a character.

What's wrong with me?

>> No.24727870

>>24727662
Funny video, but I hate that damn SJW and it takes the fun out of it. I'd rather he stopped uploading.

>> No.24727881

>>24727588
Your image proves Mion is right handed and the slut is left handed.

>> No.24727903

>>24727844
Is that Mion's invisible boyfriend holding hands with her or is it a huge dildo? Either way she's a loser.

>> No.24727905

>>24727588
I said you were full of shit but I'll bite this time
1. no they just went sightseeing and played some lazer tag in texas
2. shion is close to yakuza dude kasai
3. shion decided to do what satoshi asked her
4. mion doesn't love satoshi (that way)
5. ooishi hate doesn't imply shit
6. nope, it just wasn't stated
7. nope, she was just locked away in a dungeon
8. the fuck
9. nope, shion said she doesn't
thanks for autism, anon

>> No.24727913

>>24727881
That's just a pose faggot.
Besides, both "sisters" representing a different side is even more of an argument in my favor.

>> No.24727933

>>24727870
can you pls give proofs that he's one
I've been following him for well over a year and haven't noticed shit
he also seems to be imaginary friends with one russian guy, so I'm not buying that he's sjw

>> No.24727935

>>24727588
Mion has a hairy high schooler pussy. Shion shaves like a slut. Case closed.

>> No.24727960

Does anyone else think the witch Featherine as a character was completely unnecessary, Umineko would have been better of without her?

>> No.24727995

>>24727583
I was just born yesterday, shut up

>> No.24728012

>>24727905
>1.
That's what she told K1, she still was able to completely humiliate Okonogi in a serious fight. Obviously she underwent some kind of training.
>2.
Why would Kasai teach her something that dangerous? He loves her like a daughter.
>3.
But only in one fragment? It's likely Shion just appeared there because Mion needed an excuse (a scapegoat) for murdering Teppei but was eventually stopped by K1.
>4.
She does, it's stated in Meakashi.
>5.
Implications are what's used to build a theory.
>9.
Her words mean nothing. Or do you think she was possessed by a demon as well?

>> No.24728065

>>24727960
Ikuko is yasu so no

>> No.24728086

>>24728012
>It's likely Shion just appeared there because Mion needed an excuse (a scapegoat) for murdering Teppei but was eventually stopped by K1.
Mion doesn't even have the guts to send people after Teppei, let alone do the deed herself. She's not insane.

>> No.24728103

>>24728012
1. okonogi was obviously downplaying because he knew he was pretty much done for but his pride made compelled him to "lose in a battle"
2. implying you wouldn't teach your daughter to protect herself, especially if we are talking sonozaki family
3. why akasaka saved his wife only in one fragment? why teppei only returns in two? roll of dice
4. he's not her type
5. it's a very minor detail that doesn't mean shit, you could as well say that part 3 keiichi is also mion then
9. she said it was an obvious bluff that rena bought

>> No.24728105
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24728105

>>24727836
is in umineko saku
where is confirmed that he is the 19th man so erika is the culprit in episode 5 so Erika is Kanon so Erikantrice is true

>> No.24728129

>>24728086
That's exactly my point.
(Mion) can't do it, so she created (Shion) inside herself to do the dirty work for her. That's why (Shion) only ever starts a massacre in fragments where (Mion) was treated badly or Matsuribayashi where she has to fight the actual villains.

>> No.24728153

>>24727960
I wish Featherine/Ikuko werent in Umineko just so these Ikuko=Yasu fags would shut up.

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>>24728103
That's some pretty blatant downplaying of hints.
Going by that logic the early Umineko arcs would be unsolvable.

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>>24728153
no ikuko=yasu no mistery
so enjoy everything is magic because the detective must resolve all riddles

>> No.24728346

>>24727870
That's new to hear. Any related pics?

>> No.24728427

>>24728209
you mean they aren't?

>> No.24728457

>>24728346
that's not new
I once posted a higga meme and he went full on sperg rampage about flo

>> No.24728470
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24728470

>>24728427
They are, the real solution is a magical killing spree by the witch Beatrice as shown in the games.

>> No.24728495

>>24728470
idk bruh I've started umi just recently

>> No.24728511
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24728511

>>24728495
Then don't lurk in spoiler threads.

>> No.24728544

>>24728495
then stay the fuck outa these threads

>> No.24728755

Think I'm going to start my day by finishing to ange again.

>> No.24729135

>>24706145
Amico mio, credo tu abbia bisogno di un dottore.

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24729158

>>24729135
amico mio credo tu abbia bisogno di rileggere umineko visto che come una capra con un cervello di 1 bit pensi di aver ragione senza argomentare

>> No.24729221

>>24729158
Listen, it's stated in red that Erika is the detective.
It is stated in red that the detective can't be the culprit.
Now how the hell do you think you can escape these two simple red truths?

>> No.24729265
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24729265

>>24729221
the detective cant be the culprit rigth... but the accomplice yes

the detective can help the culprit as he wishes, as long as he doesn't kill anyone.
the detective's job is to give clues to the reader not to solve the case and Erika's bad behavior as a detective makes us doubt her.

>> No.24729291

>>24729265
Wait, if it's just an accomplice then why the hell you call it Erikatrice theory?

>> No.24729318
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24729318

>>24729291
Because she is the mastermind
She is Kanon and Yasu

Episode 5 is her plan to humilate Natsuhi:
George commit the crime and Erika accuse Natsuhi of it
the perfect plan

>> No.24729337

>>24729318
If she is the mastermind then she isn't the accomplice!
If she is the mastermind you go against the previously stated red truth where the detective can't be the culprit!
Besides, if she were to be the mastermind she would have been introduced in episode 1 since the culprit has to be introduced early into the story.
Comprendi ora i tuoi errori?

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24729377

>>24729337
>If she is the mastermind then she isn't the accomplice!
culprit mean kill someone
if she dont kill no-one she is just the accomplice
>Besides, if she were to be the mastermind she would have been introduced in episode 1 since the culprit has to be introduced early into the story.
lambda red truth:
>There was an exception clause in the original, but for this game 'the detective isn't a culprit' has been proclaimed in red, so you don't need to consider the exception. (Referring to Knox's 7th)

knox detective rule is valid only in game 5th
Comprendi ora i tuoi errori?

>> No.24729620

>>24728129
But everyone saw them together during the festival preparations in several arcs.

>> No.24729675

>>24728346
You can see him hanging out with discord trannies, bringing up how "problematic" hentai is, unironically using terms like "valid" or "sexualization", sharing his woke opinions on twitter and screeching about loli art.

He doesn't do it often, but I happened to catch a glimpse of that shit and he's on my shit list now. Post his crap if you want, just keep in mind what kind of person he is. If you are like me, you'll probably be disgusted by this puritan cunt. If you don't care, that's fine too. Just letting you know.

>> No.24729692

>>24729675
Too bad he's the only Higanbana fan in the west willing to create decent content. The series really is cursed.

>> No.24730033

>>24727462
I think about destruction the most.

>> No.24730851

>>24730033
The destruction of Jessica's dignity.

>> No.24731124
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24731124

>>24729675
You really need to go outside more often if you're that concerned about such things.

>> No.24731173

>>24731124
That doesn't really matter. I just don't like how my hobby is getting invaded by SJWs. They destroy everything they touch.

>> No.24731577

When is new Ciconia coming out?

>> No.24732868

>>24731577
This year I hope

>> No.24735355

>>24726601
rifyu

>> No.24735465

>>24731577
Maybe next Comiket?

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24735636

>>24731577
When the seagulls cry.

>> No.24735942

New Higurashi PV when?

>> No.24735956

hope the new anime has jiggle physics

>> No.24736031

>>24729377
>lambda red truth:
>There was an exception clause in the original, but for this game 'the detective isn't a culprit' has been proclaimed in red, so you don't need to consider the exception. (Referring to Knox's 7th)
So you accept that the detective can't be the culprit, then you must comprehend that the culprit has to be the same one in all games.
And you still haven't solved this:
>Besides, if she were to be the mastermind she would have been introduced in episode 1 since the culprit has to be introduced early into the story.
The culprit has to be introduced in chapter one, Erika wasn't introduced in chapter one so she can't be the culprit.
Return to the basics and make your theory anew, this one doesn't stand up to red truths.

>> No.24736067

>>24736031
>So you accept that the detective can't be the culprit,
yes the detective cant kill anyone and Erika plan wasnt kill no one just accuse natsuhi of it.

>then you must comprehend that the culprit has to be the same one in all games.
is the same in every game, in bern's game and in reality

GEORGE THE REAL CULPRIT and Kanon isnt the culprit just in game 5th but is involved in the game.

>The culprit has to be introduced in chapter one,
George and Kanon where introduced in the first game
>Return to the basics and make your theory anew, this one doesn't stand up to red truths.
my theory respect all the red truth

>> No.24737332

ange bullying maria into crying and filling yasu with murderous intent

>> No.24738163
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24738163

>>24729620
And Battler saw Maria and Rosa get massacred by EVA Beatrice. So what?

>> No.24740388

The only reason Ange is alive is because of her irritable bowels.

>> No.24740549

>>24740388
>Ange
>alive
Read Umineko, newfaggot.

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24741421

>>24697304
After reading their parts, we can now safely assume that Ryukishi got into vore.
I predict Ciconia phase 2 will feature a grey goo like scenario with 8ms that eat people whole.
You should all prepare yourselves and repent, for the vorny era of 07th expansion is upon us.

>> No.24741466

>>24741421
Higurashi got Rika, Umineko got Bernkastel.
How will Ciconia's blue haired loli look like?

>> No.24741948

>>24741466
Naima's hair is blue.

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>>24725734

>> No.24742250
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>>24725734

>> No.24742831

I wonder if Gannet will have more screentime in Phase 2. Her bio is really interesting and I think she'll be a key player.

All we know about her right now is that she used to be white in the first trailer and that she's got a hairy 13yo pussy.

>> No.24743197

>>24736031
I don't speak for Italian_Anon.
>detective
It's a title. If Beatrice was able to speak her title "Golden Witch" in red, Erika could do this, too.
In fact, Erika's last introduction lines are refering to something different, because she is the culprit in EP6. An other example would be "Because I'm the detective" after Ep5's first Twilight. It's said by Bernkastel.
I'd say Erika's detective status by saying in red red "she, the detective" is unsure.
>Erika wasn't introduced in chapter one so she can't be the culprit.
Funny how Dlanor slipped these words from her mouth:
> Knox's 1st. It is forbidden for the culprit to be anyone not mentioned in the early part of the story! A person first introduced in the 5th game cannot be named as the CULPRIT...!!
This contradicts EP6. While I get it that she is trying to deny Battler's theory FOR EP5, it seems Dlanor (and Battler, too) sees the first 4 games as the early part of the story.
>Erika could be the culprit
Discussed several times. Erika Furudo was a real person drowned before game 5 started. (Propably announced by sea rescue radio). She was the real detective. Yasu created an Erika-role from scatch and played the detective. Meta-Erika was like Chic-Beato, but found and influenced by Bernkastel.
>detective authority
Debunked ingame. Understanding how the "red key" is formed is the the key how red truth can be created. Ergo, cuplrit Erika could created the red truth because her view is definitely objective. The detective authority in EP5 is farce. By this we can deduct how Bernkastel could created the red truth in the court.
Ta-daa. Erikatrice (without George) explained.

>> No.24743256

>>24742831
>Mion is literally introduced talking about her pubic hair in Onikakushi
>Jessica is literally introduced talking about her pubic hair in EP1
>Gannet's profile basically proves she's got a hairy loli pussy
This means she's a pure soul who will never kill anyone and is only here to suffer. Follow the pattern.

>> No.24743425

>>24743256
>>Mion is literally introduced talking about her pubic hair in Onikakushi
>>Jessica is literally introduced talking about her pubic hair in EP1
I definitely don't remember that. Not saying they don't have hairy pussies, they definitely do.

>> No.24743532

>>24743197
>erikantrice without george
Sherikantrice or just Erikantrice without george?

>> No.24743563

>>24743425
Read their introductions again. They talk about that like 10 lines in, it's pretty crazy. Or maybe it's just a weird translation.

>> No.24743852
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24743852

>>24727933
>>24728346
here's your proof
now fuck off

>> No.24743888

>>24743563
wut

>> No.24743964

>>24743888
Mion compliments K1 on his dick size and says she's not too far behind because she's got a full bush now. Jessica literally says she's got tits now because just as her bush will grow, so will other things.

I distinctly remember them talking about their pubic hair within 5 minutes of their introduction.

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24743976

>>24725734
Just made this.

>> No.24744001

>>24743964
I remember dick and breasts but not the bushes

>> No.24744079

>>24744001
They used different words. And the translation was kinda wonky early on, too.

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24744089

>>24743976
I want to pound his smug boipussy so much holy shit

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24744235

>>24744089
Better fantasize it about now, before it's revealed that the original Miyao is female and the male personality is the murder program.

>> No.24744291

>>24744235
Blueyao is an AI. Miyao and Meow are real. And they've got a pussy, this is pretty much confirmed (as in, hinted at in typical Umineko fashion so dumb readers miss it despite it being right in front of their faces).

>> No.24744299

Was the word cunny invented because "loli pussy" makes no sense? The whole point of calling it a pussy is that it's hairy like a cat.

>> No.24744674

>>24743197
Even before Erikantrice theory appeared, I loved to think that Erika represented Yasu when she first discovered mystery novel before she shared her love to the genre to Battler, who seems to enjoy it too, and taught her how love/whydunnit is really important.

>> No.24744703

>>24744674
>how love/whydunnit is really important to the resolution.

>> No.24745303

>>24744674
really?
I thought I was the first to discover Erika = yasu.
if so I find it strange that no one has created a theory before.

yeap you have rigth without Erika=Yasu there isnt why dunnit in episode 5th and 6th
>>24744703
What is the why dunnit of episode 5th and 6th in shkanontrice?
Revange agaisnt a stranger and madness?

>> No.24745307
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24745307

ぬいぐるみですから。。。

>> No.24745391

>>24744089
I want to rub myself on every part of his body.

>> No.24745423
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>>24745391

>> No.24745546

>>24744235
I want to sodomize Miyao's phantom dick!

>> No.24745786

>>24744291
I remember having some proof somewhere that Miyao was a she.

>> No.24746554
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>> No.24746899
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24746899

>>24746554
arresting and performing a strip search on sonozaki shion! beating her up and filing a report stating that she resisted arrest! raping her and having your policebros cover for you!

>> No.24747057

Wow the erikantrice retard is still around. I don't visit here often but in the last year or so every thread I stumble into has his shit smeared in it.

>> No.24747174

>>24747057
Because no one deny it
If you want me gone then deny it by yourself fucking retard, if your brain isnt a melted shit will be easy

>> No.24747417
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24747417

Rena is a notorious... what?

>> No.24747438

>>24747417
I think you can make a pretty good guess

>> No.24747467
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24747467

this fills rena with fear and hatred

>> No.24749457

>>24747417
She's a rorikon.

>> No.24749752

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENL0nPskSao
I wish real life had background music moments

>> No.24750556

Does anyone have a download for Matsuribayashi that works with the recently released 07th mod?
I only found ancient versions from 2010 or the only recent ones uploaded to nyaa don't seem to work with the voice patch.

>> No.24750738

>>24750556
https://gog-games.com

>> No.24750985
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24750985

I will post this every thread until my soulmate, Rena Ryuugu, is real.
#1

>> No.24751280
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24751280

>middle of the night
>thunderstorm outside
>reading higurashi
spooky

>> No.24751418

>>24750556
You need the steam version for 07th mod, GOG version is broken. They said they're working on 07th for GOG but it might be missing some features. The one on Nyaa isnthr GOag version I think.

>> No.24751487

>>24750985
>wanting Rena to be real
She canonically has an ass. Why do you want such a creature to come into existence?

>> No.24751924

>>24751487
we all do you degenerate. Everyone has one, to not be attracted to a girls's butt either means you're gay for man's butt, or you're asexual.
or just not human and you're a cat that's learned how to type on a keyboard.

>> No.24752086

>>24751924
>assuming humiliation anon isn't more attracted to butt than anyone else
>typing like a literal loli not even done with mandatory education
>believing in "asexuality"
Are you Italianon?

>> No.24752266

>>24752086
No, the grammar is too good for it to be Italianon. Plus they didn't annoyingly shoehorn in anything about Erikantrice

>> No.24752320

So Italianon, legit question:how the shit does ericantrice explain the end of episode 8 of battler escaping with beatrice who he's convinced is shannon, but makes no sense because according to your theory yasu is explicitly not shannon but kanon/erica, unless you can explain this discrepancy your theory has a massive fucking hole in it the size of a motorboat.

>> No.24752419

>>24752320
>So Italianon, legit question:how the shit does ericantrice explain the end of episode 8 of battler escaping
after the crime Yasu and Battler escape together but yasu cant endure her feeling of
guilty so try to kill herself, Battler save her but lost his memory so Yasu become ikuko and start to write stories to make Battler solve them.

>who he's convinced is shannon
i dont remember this, what part?
there is written in the VN that Battler call Yasu Shannon?

>> No.24752496
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24752496

>>24752419
Not him, but I presume he's referring to this, though it's from the manga.
The manga is canon regardless, but whatever.

>> No.24752570
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>>24752496
>manga
anon-chan (yes i am a bad person and i assume your gender)

many of ep8 manga scene arent in the VN like the page your post.
So in the VN battler never call Yasu Shannon in ep8.

my theory is Based on the VN so you must use VN parts.

>manga is canon
the manga is the winning price of Shakanontrice.
it obtain the rigth of be called truth so R07 """wrote""" that story but in the VN never confirm it.

remember the duel between Erika and Battler in episode 5th?
Lambda confirm Natsuhi theory even if she knew it was wrong whY?
because
A TRUTH THAT CANNOT BE FOUND HAS NO RIGHT TO BE CALLED TRUTH

so ryukishi confirm Shkanontrice

>> No.24755162

So the three kings are George, Hideyoshi and...?

>> No.24755284

>VTubers are starting to ask about Ciconia
bros... is it happening...?

>> No.24755299

>>24755284
fuck vt*b*rs and fuck you

>> No.24755325

>>24755284
What's happening..?

>> No.24755559

>>24752086
implying you wouldn't be assexual if you were fully castrated

>> No.24755596
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24755596

>>24750985
I'll do the same.

>>24755284
Oh hell yes, watched PPtenshi's stream of Higurashi for a bit. I find it fun others are reading it and she watched it when she was young if I remember.(The first stream: https://youtu.be/ChM-1R15w30))

>> No.24755621

>>24755325
https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1282817902027001857?s=20

>> No.24755870

>>24755559
implying yasu doesn't have sexual desires towards battler, george, jessica and gohda

>> No.24756495

What does CS mean here? https://twitter.com/07th_official/status/1282587716606029826

>> No.24756639

>>24756495
It just means console game.

>> No.24756655

>>24756495
consumer

>> No.24757503

>>24745303
>really?
>I thought I was the first to discover Erika = yasu.
>if so I find it strange that no one has created a theory before.

Erikatrice (extension of Shkannon) was unsuccesful back then. People didn't believe in that because muh red truth and muh manga and the believed logic error solution was absolute. But before that it was speculated Erika was indeed a (sort of) character of the original cast and everytime Meta-Erika used another character for a viewpoint that one would appeared and refered as Erika (but was not).
Pretty weird, isn't?

>> No.24757846

>>24757503
yes pretty weird
people discover that Erika was indeed a (sort of) character of the original cast so would be easy find erika=kanon since logic error solution.

well i am pretty sad because i am not the first who discover it
that discussion exist anymore?
i really want read it maybe they find some clues

>> No.24758449

>>24757503
That's much more interesting than "Erikantrice".

>> No.24758508

>>24758449
why?
except yasu who could be Erika?

>> No.24761278

I don't really like thread such as "Prove that magic does exist" or "Magic don't exist" with Battler that proliferate on other boards, but it's kind of a good way to bait some people to read it, or remind them that it exist.

>> No.24761299

>>24761278
It = Umineko

>> No.24761660

>>24758449
Well these theories came up when Ep5 and 6 were released and translation wasn't finished. I remember someone said Nanjo was Erika and he was the culprit in Dawn. I mean he cut penises so heads wouldn't be a problem. If Erikantrice was introduced during this time I bet it would be more popular than Jessitrice.

>> No.24761721

>>24761660
>f Erikantrice was introduced during this time I bet it would be more popular than Jessitrice.
at least i expect a fandom civil war
50-50 Shkanontrice vs Erikantrice
sadly that i read umineko so late

>> No.24762551

>>24751418
Yeah, GOG is not compatible for being outdated. The nyaa one is also two versions old so it's also broken with the mod.

>> No.24763274

>>24755284
Ciconia getting famous because of fucking vtubers is too good to be true

>> No.24763288
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24763288

So what is the correct translation of Battler's catch phrase?
Steam translates it as "It's useless, it's all useless"
Umineko Project and others translate it as "That's no good, that's no god damn good at all".
The former doesn't really work for a good amount of the times he says it though.

>> No.24763425

>>24762551
Wait, how is GOG version not up to date? Did mangagamer just forget that it exists?

>> No.24763524

>>24763288
You can see UP address this in a forum post here: https://forum.umineko-project.org/viewtopic.php?t=166
I believe they also decided to use a mixture of both, using the different translation where appropriate since it's become so iconic as a meme in the fanbase.

>> No.24764585

>>24763288
both

>> No.24764668

>>24763288
Both work as translations of ダメ, but I've always felt the latter is more appropriate for like 95% of the times Battler says it.

>> No.24764760

What the fuck is the name of the higu song with the sick ass drums I can't find it on youtube but I think its from the console versions.

>> No.24764775

>>24764760
https://youtu.be/bfxV4LPLq98
Nvm I found it

>> No.24766925

>>24722707
What's wrong with it? She has my favorite sprites

>> No.24768970

>>24751280
This is how Higurashi is meant to be played.

>> No.24769014

>>24763288
correct translation is untranslated romanized

>> No.24769718

>>24763288
The Witch Hunt translation works perfectly most of the time and especially in the most important scene, when Battler says it to Natsuhi revealing he's the one behind the creepy phone calls.

The other one is retarded.

>> No.24770328

The new trial of Higurashi JP features news songs by xaki. https://twitter.com/The07thNetwork/status/1283238503891890176

>> No.24770886

i actually really liked ange a lot and cared for her as a character
her body is just a plus

>> No.24771062

>>24763288
Steam translation is cooler, and I still believe it makes sense where everyone else is saying it doesn't for some reason.

>> No.24771094

Is Ciconia good?

>> No.24771355

>>24770328
The new tracks : https://mega.nz/folder/RFlnFS7B#Q4QE_aYac7140Kgo0iNE1Q

>> No.24772068

WHERE THE FUCK IS CICONIA PHASE 2???

>> No.24773015

>>24771355
They're really nice

>> No.24773577

>>24769718
>>24771062
That's because you two read it with the "It's useless" line. But it's not a proper translation of the word "dame" since useless is more associated with "muda".

>Basically, it comes down to the difference between "dame" and "muda". "Useless" is more suited to "muda", and there are situations where using it for "dame" just doesn't work as well. After we replaced this catchphrase, all the places that felt awkward, like "useless" had subtly the wrong meaning for the situation, just went away. "No good" includes the meaning of "useless", so this translation fit in a lot more circumstances.

>There are two other things that influenced our decision with this catchphrase:

>The Yen Press mangas use "it's no good, no good at all"
>From Episode 6 onward, the Witch Hunt Chiru translation seems to avoid translating "dame" as "useless" except where its hands were cuffed by its established convention. For instance, there are lines like:
「……これでは駄目デス」 "......This won't be any GOOD."
「しかし、駄目でした…。 "But it was no use...
一度送ったことがあるが、さっぱり駄目でした。 I sent one in once, but it was absolutely no good.
駄目、頭が、……割れる……。 No good...my head's...getting split open......

(That last one is a good example of when "useless" just doesn't fit as well.)

>Since the point of the edit was to produce a translation that made consistent and correct decisions from the start, and wasn't shackled by old conventions made during Umineko's release period (when Witch Hunt both had incomplete information and were less skilled as translators), we felt it was time to make the change.

>I think Steam stuck with it, though.

>> No.24776194

Please let Phase 2 come out this year please please

>> No.24778541

Blue truth: the Sonozakis are behind the Rokkenjima incident.

>> No.24778902

If human butts are so disgusting how come they appeal to males?

>> No.24778932

>>24778902
because are also disgusting, amen

>> No.24779215

Gunhild: S. She only reached her position through years of vigorous and skillful dick sucking.
Maja: A. Sucking dick is a necessary part of a secondary secretary's job, but that doesn't guarantee she's good at it.
Jayden: C. Not gay, but he's definitely tried sucking his own.
Meow: A if you are Jayden. If it were Jayden's dick, she'd make up for the lack of experience with passion. If Miyao is biologically male, she might know how to please a man.
Koshka: D. Would display very little interest. Might also bite.
Seshat: B. She looks like a professional dick sucker, but she's too mysterious to say anything with certainty.

>> No.24779916

>>24736067
The culprit will not commit suicide.(forgery of purple logic)
Vandine say this too so George cant be the culprit; and dont say "muh Riukishy07 doesnt used vandine" becuase if it was useless then he wouldnt create Willard

>> No.24780474

>>24779916
>The culprit will not commit suicide.(forgery of purple logic)
george did not commit suicide in bernkastle game
>Vandine say this too so George cant be the culprit
for van dyne george is the perfect culprit
van dyne want a culprit who normally act good like a priest and the culprit must introduce at start of the story

George is the first person we see after Battler and he seem a good persoon
the perfect killer

>> No.24781228

>>24780474
in your manifesto george, after having killed gohda, tried to convince Shannon and then he killed her and killed himself

>> No.24781292

>>24781228
yes and in Shkanontrice Shannon after killing gohda and tried to convince George she killed herself

WHERE IS THE PROBLEM IN GEORGE KILL-HIMSELF?

>> No.24781446

>>24781292
vandine 18

>> No.24781487

>>24781446
<A crime in a detective story must never turn out to be an accident or a suicide. To end an odyssey of sleuthing with such an anti-climax is to play an unpardonable trick on the reader. If a book-buyer should demand his two dollars back on the ground that the crime was a fake, any court with a sense of justice would decide in his favor and add a stinging reprimand to the author who thus hoodwinked a trusting and kind-hearted reader.>

the crime is not only a suicide
this rule seem to avoid the suicide crime but if there are homicides then is rules allow a suicide of the culprit

>> No.24781528

>>24781487
go read the ultimate red truths, under tsubasa, in the fandom

>> No.24781675

>>24781528
in every game the bomb explode and everyone died
even the culprit so in every game there is lawaysa suicide of the culprit

>> No.24781723

>>24781675
but you said (i havent read all ur manifesto) that Shannon escaped with Battler

>> No.24784238

>>24747057
It's an unfortunate ordeal indeed.

>> No.24784681

ciconia doesn't take place in the future. it's taking place right now

>> No.24784963

>>24784681
Again, where the fuck is my Selcom then?

>> No.24785178

>>24781723
Shannon is not beatrice
Kanon is Beatrice
They are 2 different person and kanom escape with Battler only in reality not during the games

>> No.24785195
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>>24752496
>The manga is canon
Only the original work is canon. Applies to all medium.

>> No.24785213
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>>24785195
>With the manga version of Umineko, however, we considered the work to be a “period” to the “sentence” that is the world of Umineko.
>Because of this, when I met with Natsumi-sensei [Kei Natsumi, the artist of the manga adaptation of Umineko’s eighth episode], I asked her to show all the secrets in a way that can easily be understood by anyone.
>Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.
>By no means is the manga version a individual interpretation. It is an official answer from me, Ryukishi07.
https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Say_It_In_Red!_An_Interview_with_Ryukishi07

>> No.24785284
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24785284

>>24785213
Lambda: yeap Bern you have rigth Natsuhi is the culprit in all the games congratulations

>> No.24785295

>>24785178
wtf where is the love that you always talk about? battler escape with the newfag of the family? battler consider beato his wife in the 8th so is battler gay?

and is said in red that everybody dieand ? the red sentence should be valid for all games;in the fourth everyone could be the culprit so its also possible that happened something like the scenario Rudolf-Kyrie but in the last moment Eva and Kyrie killed themselves

>> No.24785306
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24785306

>secondaries ITT shilling the manga over the VN
Might as well say the anime is canon too.

>> No.24785331

>>24785295
there is Love
Battler and Yasu met 6 years ago and fall in love with mystery

my theory respect their love , respect mystery
>battler consider beato his wife in the 8th so is battler gay
Nope Kanon is just a personality of yasu woman so he isnt gay

>and is said in red that everybody dieand ? the red sentence should be valid for all games
Every red is valid in all the games thanks my theory
>n the fourth everyone could be the culprit
ALL THE GAMES CAN BE RESOLVE WITH EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT
this is called insult to the reader

cmon anon
you dont have no idea about what is my theory
read my manifesto

>> No.24785437

>>24785331
>Thus, all of the episode of Sayo that appeared in the EP8 manga is the official answer to the world of Umineko.
why should I when riukishy confirmed that shkanontrice is the reality? you always says "the first twilight of the third game is impossible!!!" but just with Jessica accomplice or another one it can be solved.
also rosatrice can solve logically all the four games but its pathetic as solution.


is yasu != shannon? you said that kanon is a personality of yasu so if Shannon is yasu then Shannon = Kanon = Yasu; if yasu!=Shannon then how Shannon can know about battler's promise?

>> No.24785502

>>24785284
If you won't believe the author himself, then what will you believe?

>>24785306
Try harder.

>> No.24785504

>>24785437
>why should I when riukishy confirmed that shkanontrice is the reality?
because a mystery must be resolve in the VN


>you always says "the first twilight of the third game is impossible!!!"
>jessica accomplice
Battler was with them so they cant help Shkanon

>also rosatrice can solve logically all the four games but its pathetic as solution.
my theory solve the 4 games, and game 5 and 6.
the oponly one theory

question how can shannon know that battler is danger in episode 6, why erika know about meta-world in episode 6? ecc...
in shkanontrice ep6 is not a mystery instead with my theory we can give a motive to Erika for kill 5 people and try to caged Battler.

>f yasu!=Shannon then how Shannon can know about battler's promise?
because she is the genji of Kanon, his best friend.

>> No.24785516

>>24785502
so Battler in the first tea party must accept magic because the author Beatrice said magic exist?

author act according with their own rules, if we really love him then we must understand these rules and discover the real meaning hidden in his words

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24785677

>>24785516
Magic does exist.
Also, it's absolutely ridiculous to compare Battler and Beatrice's situation in the episode 1 tea party to an author making a statement about their own work.

>> No.24785685

>>24785504
wasn't battler sleeping when hideyoshi and rosa (I dont remember if they) saw that they were sleeping?
but anyway
"what the fuck is happening? ok guys I'm going to see what is happening; battler, this is a secret ok? don't tell this to nobody, you know my mom..."

>> No.24785725

>>24785677
Beatrice is the author of that work
>wasn't battler sleeping when hideyoshi and rosa (I dont remember if they) saw that they were sleeping
When Rosa in the second game enter in his room whe he was sleeping Battler wake up for a moment and saw her.
if anyone open the door Battler can see him

>> No.24785731

>>24785685
>>24785725

>> No.24786326

>>24784963
you're a npc

>> No.24786535

>>24785725
anyway his perceptions aren't perfect,he's not the detective

>> No.24786585

>>24786535
Battler is the detective in the first 4 games
a detective cant see lie because if he can see lie then is not a mystery since everything can be wrong.

>> No.24786965

i want to fuck seashat

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24787759

ang

>> No.24789074

Why Sorcerer Battle is not named Dante?

>> No.24789985
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24789985

>Someone makes a comfy Umineko thread on a different board
>Italianfaggot comes in spamming his retarded headcanon
The day he either kills himself or dies in anyway other way will be a glorious day.

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24790042

>>24789985
you mean the real truth of umineko

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24790134

>>24789985
That's in part because of him that the thread here in /jp/ got deserted.

>> No.24790167

>>24790134
yes these thread are dead
>muh you discuss up
with people who never read my manifesto and dont even know umineko

miss the old discussion with real detectives and not goats

>> No.24790588
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24790588

Umineko in the current year?

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>>24790588
It does sound quite strange.

>> No.24791389

>>24790167
try to discover the culprit is funny while are you reading it; when you have spent months reading it then, after having finished it, you are tired and would not re-read it.
when i was reading it i used to read some scenes more than one time to discover the culprit, I failed and with the 8th episodes it finished.
i really loved umineko but i have work to do; I've read part of your manifesto and I found it as a good solution; but Shkanontrice cant be denied, Riukishy07 also confirmed that its the real solution.

>> No.24791440

>>24790588
>>24790771
if you want people to talk about Ciconia then finish the fucking second phase Ryukishi, it's been nine months, a real human being would be finished at this point

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24791580

>>24791389
sadly i was a goat the first time to read it but this is the job umineko
make a person who usually belive in magic, secret passage , ecc....
discover the basic of logic thinking
make him doubt and think and umineko really change my mind.

trust me the most funny things to do is reread and trying to deny the magic called Shkanontrice.
is literrally enter into umineko and feel the same of Battler.
there is time when your discover something of new and feel happy and when others deny it you feel like a shit and think your job is useless.

but the feeling when you discover the final piece to destroy Shkanontrice (erika=kanon) is worth everything

image be the only person in the world who solve umineko a unique feeling


>but Shkanontrice cant be denied, Riukishy07 also confirmed that its the real solution.
after i finish umineko the first time i belive in shkanontrice.
i could not find another solution so i accept that the problem born when i read the manga, people advice me to read it since i didnt knew how shkanontrice solve the murders.

and then........EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT
how can a human who love and use his lifetime to read umineko accept that.
Shkanontrice is not a mystery, everything i read umineko insulted by that manga.

so i start to think, if ryukishi really wanted make Shkanontrice then he would make great tricks instead of that shit, so maybe ryukishi approve these insults to the reader as solution to make even 1 person on thousent say:
"there is something wrong"

i am that person.
Anon remember the words of Lambda
"a solution who cant be discover has no rigth to be called solution"
So if you wrote this in your opera , can you go agaisnt your own words?

>> No.24791719

>>24791580
>So if you wrote this in your opera , can you go agaisnt your own words?
what are you talking about? the true author is Beatrice
>and then........EVERYONE IS THE CULPRIT
theories where not everyone is the culprit are valid; for example Shkanon killed all the family except battler and Eva was just unconscious and when she woke up they were all dead (except Battler and Beatrice)

>> No.24791726

>>24785306
The manga is canon anon. The author literally confirmed it to be canon.

>> No.24791778

>>24791719
Batrce is the author of the games , ryu the author of umineko
>theories where not everyone is the culprit are valid
but is not official.
people cant change shkanontrice according with people.

if someone like Shkanontrice then everyone culprit is ok but if someone dont like it then Shkanontrice change accroding with his think

this is not a solution, a solution must be unique, people wants cant change the truth

>> No.24791791

>>24791726
The umineko Manga is just Natsuhi is the culprit IRL

>> No.24791819

>>24791791
Natsuhi is the one who killed the maid and castrated YasuLionShannonKannonBeatrice3.0. That is the truth of all games and the real world except for the world that Bernkastel showed Will.
Nothing more, nothing less.

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24791844

>>24791819
>trust Battler's family culprit theory
ok anon

>> No.24791871

>>24791844
It was literally said in red truth in episode 7 that Kyrie and Rudolf killed everyone except Eva and Battler after Eva and Hideyoshi killed Krauss and Natsuhi.
Do you plan on denying the red truth now too?
Please post your shitty manifesto or whatever on reddit's fanfiction board and not here.

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24791921

>>24791871
>trust fake red truth of Battler's family culprit theory
Anon post the red truth here

>> No.24791923

>>24791778
the content of eva's diary is known only by those who were in the island, what happened that day is in the cat's box and is not explicit that all the ushiromiya family members are the culprits.
why ange denied the red truth of bern? because she wasnt ready, before opening the book of truth, she had not lost hope of anyone's survival.

there is no official theories, everything that happened that day is inside the cat's box

>> No.24791935

>>24791921
>fake red truth
lmao fuck off for good dude

>> No.24791962
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24791962

>>24791923
Ikuko is Yasu, she know the true
Eva's diary was just a method to preserve Goerge reputation.

During the press conference Ikuko dont wanted read Eva's diary but confess, say to everyone that she was Kanon the culprit.
but if Ange choice magic Ikuko change idea and wanted live for Battler
>>24791935
if is not fake post it

>> No.24792216

>>24791921
THAT THIS IS ALL TRUTH- (In Twilight of the Golden Witch, Bernkastel claimed that she anticipated Ange cutting off her red truth, and that the full statement would have been "That this is all truth...isn't necessarily so.")
This mean that it could be and could not be what happened in that day.
The cat's box is closed.

>> No.24792259

>>24792216
this mean nothing change
it's a useless red truth
before that red truth we dont know the solution after the red truth nothing change so is useless care about it

>> No.24792313

>>24792259
this mean that everyoneisthecluprit is garbage that you invented

>> No.24792349

>>24792313
nope mean that of something dont change nothing than is not a proof

find the solution with the other red truth

>> No.24792860

>>24792349
>Give me red truth to disprove my theory
>N-No use something else
Moving the goal post I see.

>> No.24792895

>>24792860
what?
that red truth is your argument
you said that confirm that kyrie is the culprit but instead nothing change with this red truth

so use real proof
if there is something sure in umineko is that Bern is stupid and dont know nothing

>> No.24792934
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24792934

>>24792349
maybe your manifesto could be valid but you cant argue and debate, just deny what you say

>if someone like Shkanontrice then everyone culprit is ok but if someone dont like it then Shkanontrice change accroding with his think

>THAT THIS IS ALL TRUTH- (In Twilight of the Golden Witch, Bernkastel claimed that she anticipated Ange cutting off her red truth, and that the full statement would have been "That this is all truth...isn't necessarily so.")
This mean that it could be and could not be what happened in that day.
The cat's box is closed

>nope mean that of something dont change nothing than is not a proof

the red truth says that it could be the real truth or not, it doesnt confirm or deny it so for Shkanontrice the everyoneisculprit is not the confirmed, just a possible one

>> No.24792988

>>24792934
i can open this cat box with Ikuko=Yasu

>manga
you said that Shkanontrice is true because R07 confirm it, he confirm even the manga so.....the manga solution is the truth for you

>> No.24794301
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24794301

Natural as holding penis in hand

>> No.24794308

>>24794301
just dudes being dudes

>> No.24794555

>>24794301
It's getting progressively more difficult to comprehend this mystery. Didn't expect 07 to hit me with a hard one right at the beginning

>>24794308
I'm not sure it's that simple

>> No.24794634

>>24794555
Miyao doesn't actually have the same disorder the traitor gauntlet knights probably do, so it is that simple in that particular way

>> No.24797415

guys only 10 views to 4000 on my manifesto!!!

>> No.24797556

guys only 10 views to 4000 on my wanyadora tutorial

>> No.24797756

>>24797556
Seem cool
Send link

>> No.24798150

>you'll never help koshka on wanyadora

>> No.24798436
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24798436

When I got to chapter 4 I truly expected for Umineko to end with everybody leaving rokkenjima kinda like how nobody dies by the end of Higurashi. R07’s idea was better tho gotta admit even if I don’t personally love how it ends

>> No.24798860

>Saikoroshi
What the hell did I just read?

>> No.24803251
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24803251

>super high school level
more like Left-Arm Komaeda

>> No.24808382

>>24798860
ur moms dick

>> No.24809116
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24809116

4000 VIEWS GUYS
THANKS ALL OF YOU FOR THE SUPPORT

>> No.24809604

>>24731173
Funny. Did you read Ciconia? Or any other Ryukushi works?

>> No.24810774

I feel like Ciconia world is much like a VR game with its own story where the characters that gain consciousness. The whole means of Ciconia would be to fight against those who played with them that are in a layer of reality they can't access like the devloppers and the players. That's why we are just piece.
They were too much reference to games, especially Mario. It has to be a hint.

>> No.24810893

>>24810774
What makes me think most strongly about VR is a few lines, like "making this world remember it's dead" or something. Ryukishi loves statements that look like metaphors in their context but are supposed to be read more literally (Like when Krauss says Kinzo is a ghost in episode 1).

>> No.24811761

>>24731173
I agree, but you got manipulated by egocentric SJWs if you think Ciconia has any of that shit in it.

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24811930

>>24697304
I just read chapter 4, 5, 6, and a little bit of 7 with 07th mod and I think it has ruined the experience for me.
The backgrounds completely ruin the atmosphere and make the town seem unlivable and the voice acting is shit too. I went from liking these characters and Hinamizawa to hating them.
Is there a mod that only adds the console sprites and nothing else? It's too late to read with the OG sprites now because I hadn't used them when I started and they look too different from what I am used to. I hope you can understand that the console sprites are adorable and moreso than the steam ones.

>> No.24812156

>>24811930
With the installer you can choose the part you want to patch. You can then use only the sprite.

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24812194

>>24812156
Oh that's pretty neat! I'll look into it thanks.

>> No.24812562

>>24791440
Maybe I should make my own VN! And not make it be all tragic and ironic and confusing and cruel and stuff!

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>> No.24813478

Ange has a hairy butthole

>> No.24814278

>>24811761
You're retarded.

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