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Higurashi, Umineko, Ciconia, Rose Gun Days, and all 07th related works.

>> No.24576774
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24576774

ERIKANTRICE MANIFESTO IS COMPLETED
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS

guys discuss about it, this is the only way to improve my work
what you think of the new chapter?

Booru:https://erikce.booru.org/index.php

>> No.24577557

>>24576774
truly based

>> No.24577582

Miyao's ___________.

>> No.24578283
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>> No.24579175

Why are there so many trannies in this community?
As a cis male I feel like I'm in minority.

>> No.24579195

>>24579175
because people belive that Shkanontrice is the solution instead of the real truth of umineko Erikantrice

>> No.24579663

>>24576774
Why do you whore for attention so much? Don't you have any friends or relatives?

>> No.24579858
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this should be the OP image

>> No.24579864

>>24579663
fuck off faggot
i just want discuss in a thread were peope discuss about umineko

i ask too much?

>> No.24579932

Ciconia is a dream.

>> No.24580282

>>24576774
I am going to discuss with you once I've fully read it, I swear based Italianon.

>> No.24580330

>>24580282
Based anon
if you find any error or have doubt tell to me so i can fix it and improve my work

>> No.24580601
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Sadly, /jp/-fags are too proud to ever admit this.

>> No.24581072
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>>24580601
yes
even though we had such obvious hints since the very beginning

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>>24581072
Based anon
my goal

>> No.24582347

WHERE IS CICONIA PHASE 2 RYUUUUU-CHAAAAAAAAAAAN

>> No.24582524

Imagine looking forward to Phase 2 when Phase 1 was so mediocre.

>> No.24582791

>>24582524
I'm sorry for enjoy things anon

>> No.24582921
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Phase two is lost in the sea forever.

>> No.24583018
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Any chance anyone here read the Rose Gun Days manga? It's in French only IIRC, but how is it?

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>>24583018

>> No.24583357

>>24582524
No it was good I read it 2 times going for a 3rd soon

>> No.24583571

>>24583018
It's pretty good, but Nina loses relevance and Xiaolan looks inexplicably older for some reason. I don't hate it or anything, but why?

>> No.24583590

>>24583571
VIZ has it and if it was a good adaption like Umineko I'd probably get it later and scan it.

>> No.24583630

How would Mion react if you called her oji-san? Especially during sex?

>> No.24584556

higu ch8 ps3 patch when?

>> No.24584561

>>24584556
In their discord they say really soon since it's just a last few things that need to be done.

>> No.24585741

>>24576774
I won't until you learn to write in English

>> No.24586745
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Guys, Ciconia is't real. We have been fooled.

>> No.24587759

WHERE IS PHASE 2

>> No.24588345

>>24583630
she'd get more agressive as she pounds you with her oji-san's rod

>> No.24588997

>>24585741
But anon english is a shit language

>> No.24589029

>>24586745
It's scary how the current evens feel Ciconia-ish.
I'm surprised R07 hasn't released Phase 2 already.

>> No.24589078

>>24583630
i have not imagined sex with mion before and this is making me wonder why i havent before

>> No.24589133

>>24588997
I agree, but it's also really easy to learn and you're already halfway there, you just need some basic grammar to make your walls of text readable.

>> No.24589159

>>24589029
He had to rewrite it because it was literally 2020

>> No.24589215

>>24589133
It's not easy for italians
For italians is more easy german because german have logic rules that italians can understand very well
English is a mess, rules camw pout from nowhere
Speaking language force the grammar to change
People decide the grammar rules this create a shit language without logic

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ni-pah~~~~

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>>24589078
Were you forgetting she was a girl like Kei-chan?

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>>24593212
Mion? A girl?

>> No.24593911

>>24593212
im not really sure
imagining it now is really nice

>> No.24594673

>>24593212
Rena is a girl. Mion is a woman in her prime with a voluptuous, developed body. She probably has the chighest chance of impregnation.

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Can anyone disprove my theory?

>> No.24595876

>>24595664
god look at their tits

>> No.24596191

>>24595664
t. rena

>> No.24597170

>>24595664
Nice theory, but don't ask these questions or you spoil the great story. Keep reading!!

>> No.24597472

>>24595664
Mion is a pathetic teenager. She may be more developed than Rena, but she can't compare to a real woman.

>> No.24597520

>>24597170
I used information from Meakashi, Minagoroshi and Matsuribayashi in my theory.
What makes you think I didn't finish the series?

>> No.24597733 [DELETED] 

>>24597520
Woops, my bad for not looking closely. Just to confirm, you are saying they are the same person or one person?

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>>24595876
Oh yes oh god

>> No.24598133

>>24595664
anon understand the real truth of higurashi

RIKA=MION

>> No.24598152

ciconia releasing over a span or 7 years

>> No.24599011

>>24595664
Shmiontrice

>> No.24599271

>>24598102
Imagine a handjob

>> No.24599545

>>24589215
I'm asking you to CONJUGATE verbs well, anon. English verbs are INSANELY easier to conjugate than Italian's, or German's for that matter. What part of English grammar is "illogical" anyways? Even if your only mistakes were badly conjugated irregular verbs, your stuff would be so much easier to read, and people would bully you a lot less. The only really shitty part about English I can think of is the pronuntiation, but nobody is asking you to learn that. I bet you never even googled this stuff, you just had a bad experience in school and decided it was a shitty language for that reason only, or something like that.
Alternatively, you enjoy having a distinctive manner of writing for attention-whoring purposes.

>> No.24599651

>>24599545
>attention-whoring purposes.
fuck off
attenction whore like the ass of everyone i always insutl all of you.

i said that Italian is easy because there are rules
like in math the result is the same of what you expect

insstead english not, everytime ther is an exception

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>>24599271
Imagine solving the true culprit mystery of Watanagashi and only getting joke answers.

>> No.24599713

>>24599663
my desire to fuck mion isnt a joke

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>>24599713
In that case, following my theory, your desire to fuck Shion must be just as big, yes?

>> No.24599885

>>24589215
read a book or a long visual novel in english
have a translator open in a browser tab (when I read, I'm using Google Translator for single words and Reverso Context for expressions)
It will help you learn english more quickly

>> No.24599928

>>24599885
i always read university book and vn in english.
i can understand english very well just my logic in language is too high to force my brain to learn english

>> No.24602139

>>24599793
Mion is more interesting. I want to see her feminine side.

>> No.24602310

>>24599651
You clearly know nothing about languages.

>> No.24602707

Honestly, the multiple personalities thing is turning me off from Ciconia. It was fine in Umineko, since it was the well-hidden secret behind the plot and it was more of an elaborate coping mechanism than a real mental illness. But how am I supposed to empathize with or understand a *protagonist* like Miyao/Meow?

>> No.24603068

>>24602707
The thing with Miyao is the whole thing about him possibly being some program instead of a real person, as the 3rd Miyao said.
So, in Ciconia the multiple personalities was an upfront deal because that was never supposed to be a mystery, and a poor excuse for BL.

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>>24603068
>and a poor excuse for BL.
They were flirting right from the start. I don't mind it, their interactions are very cute but there's no way Jayden and Miyao are going to have a normal relationship. It's like looking for the kakera where the Ushiromiya siblings just get along.
I also feel that there's definitely a western "trans" angle to this thing, it's treated differently from the typical Japanese gender ambiguity themes.

>> No.24604267

>>24603896
Holy shit?? I'm so gonna play Ciconia now!!

>> No.24604704

Umineko Gold and 07th Gacha when?

>> No.24606616

>>24599651
>insstead english not, everytime ther is an exception
I got exactly the same feeling while I was learning Spanish and Latin. Fuck English what a flawed poorly assembled language.

>> No.24607639

>>24599651
>>24606616
You are kidding, right? Every language is like that. First you learn the general rules. Then you learn there are exceptions for everything.
There are very few languages with actually few "exceptions", like Japanese (which of course has in turn the problem of its writing system). Spanish, Italian, German, Latin, every single one of these has. too, an insanely high ammount of exceptions if you look for them. If I can say this is because these and Japanese are coincidentally the only ones I have some knowledge of, by the way. You're just biased if you think English is much more worse. Hell, the undeniable fact that English has actually a much EASIER general grammar, even if the exceptions were much more numerous (which I don't think is the case), already makes it an easier language to learn (at least if you're already somehow used to it, which you have no chance of not being living in the West).

>> No.24607799

I'm reading through RGD right now. I'm at the part where Zel learns she can understand chink runes. Is it worth reading any further? I feel like the VN blew its load already after Caleb. I feel pretty satisfied.

>> No.24608429

>>24607799
Has Gabriel shown up yet, if not he brings the kino

>> No.24609903

>>24595664
read part 5

>> No.24610155
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>>24607799
the soi arc is quite good, it just takes a while to get going.

>> No.24610742

>>24609903
So you can't disprove it on your own.

>> No.24610982

>>24610155
chinese gohda

>> No.24611151

Okay now guys, hear me out.
I think that the Okonogi from Umineko we all know and love and Okonogi from Higurashi aren't necessarily the same person as Okonogi from Ciconia.

>> No.24611156

>>24583018
Only Last Season's not available in english.

>> No.24611806

>>24599651
Hai problemi mentali, anon?
Italian is even more retarded than English in many ways.
Instead of trying to justify yourself, just say you don't want to put in the effort and leave it at that.

>> No.24612591

Satoko's naked arse

>> No.24615185
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Miyao vs Jayden is gonna be some kino when Phase 4 hits

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hmm

>> No.24616466

>>24589159
Ryu is a hack using future real event as a story.

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Oh well, I guess instead of Hideyoshi babbling about economics we get these discourses about gay laws, wonderful.

>> No.24618599

>>24610742
I don't even need to

>> No.24618725

>>24617992
I support all the groups trying to destroy this world, it needs to burn. Phase 1 was the good ending.

>> No.24618899

hey guys what do you think of wtc twitter?

https://twitter.com/The_Mr_Dent/status/1279921187951435779?s=20

>> No.24618941

>>24618899
probably true desu

>> No.24618964

why is miyao a guy

>> No.24618981

>>24618899

can't wait for all these trannies to leave the fandom once r07 releases his centrist manifesto

>> No.24619002

>>24618981
oh wait he already did, it's called all of his vns

>> No.24619003

>>24618899
You mean wtc tumblr exiled on twitter?
>>24618964
Is he?

>> No.24619016

>>24618964
NOPE
MIYAO IS A CUTE TOMBOY AND JAYDEN LOVE HERE

READ CICONIA MANIFESTO

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based

>> No.24619067

>>24619024

r07 btfo'ing george haters by making his self-hatred stem from terrible parenting

>> No.24619240

ep8 and its manga was a mistake and diminishes umineko as a whole

>> No.24619676

ep7 and its manga was a mistake and diminishes umineko as a whole

>> No.24619796

>>24619240
>>24619676
both true actually

>> No.24619810

>>24619240
>>24619676
tha fault was his fandom that never discover Erika=Kanon after ep 6

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>>24619024
my little schizophrenic voice from the past can't be this cute

>> No.24620138

>>24619810
How can the wtc fandom be so incredibly unbased?
R07 gave us all of these hints and possibilities, yet they take everything written as the "real solution" as fact and belittle anyone who actually thinks about the logical gaps.

>> No.24620151

>>24617992
I wonder which factions studies he's talking about.

>> No.24620267

>>24620151
probably the (((AOU)))

>> No.24620459

>>24620138
Because when you believe in an idea absolutely (a "the science is settled"-mentality), you don't see any point in allowing other people to question the established orthodoxy. At best they're wasting everyones time, at worst they might lead others astray.
But this attitude is still anti-truth, even when the people who develop it appear to be in the right. Everything may point to climate change being real today, but as new information is introduced into the conversation, the possibility space changes. As Ryuks pointed out in the text on the latter queen problem, solutions are always only preliminary, so orthodoxy is categorically, epistemologically unjustifiable.

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>>24620459
What he said.

>> No.24620795

>>24617992
It's a red herring because literally 10 minutes later they pretty much confirm Miyao is a girl.

>> No.24620814

>>24618899
>21
>He/Him
Every time.

>> No.24620843

>>24619016
Miyao isn't a "cute tomboy". He legit belongs in a mental institution.

>> No.24620886

>>24620138
Because the solution they gave us is satisfying and I see no point in grasping at straws to find a different culprit. If someone else turned out to be the real culprit it would ruin the story for me.

>> No.24620914 [DELETED] 

>>24620843
i find miyao cute like Jayden but i am not gay so i cant find cute a boy so miyao must be a boy

>> No.24620929

>>24620843
i find miyao cute like Jayden but i am not gay so i cant find cute a boy so miyao must be a girl

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>>24620886
>the solution they gave us is satisfying
>it would ruin the story for me
I actually don't know how to respond to this, I just hope you're joking.

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>>24620886
because we care about the mystery
accpet shkanontrice mean umineko = bad mystery story that Van dyne will never accept as Mystery

i so bad that people read for 400h about mystery want a good mystery solution?

>> No.24621572

>>24621347
Had you read this : https://07th-expansion.fandom.com/wiki/Answer_to_the_Golden_Witch ?
Ryukishi state some answers for Umineko. Might be interesting for you.

>> No.24621616

>>24618899
I enjoy them reacting to ryukishi lewding lolis or saying something is typical for women.

>> No.24621645

>>24621572
You know, R07 can say whatever he want after the fact.
It doesn't change his original works in the slightest if he reveals the "truth" in an interview after they're published. It's the same as if he would state that everything in Higurashi was the doing of a village conspiracy led by the Sonozakis after all.

>> No.24621648

>>24621616
actually anything remotely sexual sets them off

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>>24621616
>>24621648

I.. I'm literally shaking right now, let's unpack this yikes LITERALLY GROOMING A MINOR

>> No.24621791

>>24621745
She's not a minor anymore in 10 years, retard.

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>>24621791

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>>24621810

>> No.24621940

>>24621648
They are neo puritans.

>> No.24621975

>>24621572
>If I may speak frankly, this is something which Higurashi’s Watanagashi-hen and Meakashi-hen are famous for. The main story and the background story became a double-layered structure, and then could be set back into one, right?! This is something I wanted to do with every arc when I started the concept of Umineko.

Based r07 confirm that Shkanontrice is just a rip-off of mion=shion
cmon anon how can you belive that Ryu steal a fan-theory?

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>>24621940
its actually very funny how similar they are

>> No.24622078

>>24621940
at least puritans were more consistent.

>> No.24623058

Battler is hella gay. He's literally married to someone known as "the man from 19 years ago".

>> No.24623068

>>24623058
Satoko is hella faggy. She has feminine mannerisms and literally wears a dress. Only fags do that, lmao

>> No.24623142

>>24623058
>genocides entire family
>"i forgive you"
he's a cuck too

>> No.24623752

>Rokkenjima located on the Izu archipelago
Uh, maybe a volcano just erupted?

>> No.24623967

>>24623142
>genocides entire family
Those were his parents, though.
Man's gotta save face.

>> No.24626001

Did Ryukishi give him that name because his penis is huge like a cannon?

>> No.24627656

>>24623058
fake anon
is Erika Plan to make Natsuhi belive that her children that Killed 19th years ago was male and not suspect about her

Remember when Natsuhi suspect about Erika but then she said that man had a male voice cant be Erika

perfect plan

>> No.24627672

rosa is a whooooooooooooore
no dignity

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>> No.24628023

Did Rena really hate Mion for "covering up the alien invasion" and shit? I mean, she called her a bitch and hit her on the head multiple times during the hostage incident.

I bet Rena hated Mion so much in that arc that she humiliated her in her mind, thinking about how she's got an asshole and how that's super pathetic and disgusting! The demonization of a teenage girl! Lewd!

>> No.24628071

>>24628023
Alien supporters are traitors to their own species, so it's only natural to view them as subhuman pigs and exaggerate their human indignities. You could even compare it to chess or shogi, or to a puppet whose strings haven't yet been cut.

>> No.24628501

jayden is an italian anon expy

>> No.24628512

>>24628023
Mion really is the ultimate hidden beta of Higurashi. She'll act tough and confident in a casual setting, but when she's held in an underground dungeon or beaten up by one of her friends she just kind of accepts that that's what she deserves.

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>>24627885
Local furniture not so tough after getting futa dick

>> No.24628781

I just finished Umineko. So can anyone explain what was Beatrice's memory from Kuwadorian with her breaking a vase and referring to some "grandfather" supposed to be? Just some bullshit byproduct of writing the story as they went like Rena standing for an hour behind the door in Onikakushi?

>> No.24628822

>>24628781
Yasu broke a vase and Kumasawa taught her to put it back together so another servant would take the blame when it inevitably falls apart again.

>> No.24628845

>>24628822
Why would she refer to Kinzo as "grandfather" at that point in time or at all? And was it ever confirmed she's been to Kuwadorian? I don't remember.

>> No.24628883

>>24628845
rooks rike you need more rove
without rove it cannot be seen
no mistakes!

>> No.24630340

>>24628781
read erikantrice manifesto to understand the real truth
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
George and Kanon are the culprit in all the games
>>24628501
shut up is fake
is normal love miyao she is such a cute tomboy

>> No.24630576

>>24628845
These are just lies. Beatrice isn't 1000 years old either.

>> No.24630760

>>24630576
That would make sense. But she never shows/speaks about that to battler.

>> No.24630836

>>24623752
What's funny is that there are an island named Hachijou on the archipelago.

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just found this gem on w*rosu

>> No.24631300

>>24630340
Italianon how can you claim Battler remembered his promise and sent a letter when he obviously doesn't remember it in 1986? Did he remember for 3 years and then forgot over the next 3 years? How convenient.

>> No.24631388

>>24631300
Nope he always remember yasu

Yasu belive that Battler forget her so in her storis put a Battler who forgot her instead in reality he never forgot Yasu and when he saw Kanon in rokkenjima he understand his real identity and the destiny change.

>> No.24631439

>>24631300
Battler obviously didn't get a response, so he might have given up.

>> No.24631464

>>24631388
Wrong. If he never forgot then the tragedy would not happen. But it did in reality, so unless you can explain how it happened without him forgetting this makes no sense.

>> No.24631659

>>24631464
yes the tragedy didnt happened , Kanon stop the plan anon but there is something that even Battler return cant stop

GEORGE

GEORGE DECIDE TO KILL EVERYONE IN ROKKENJIMA FOR HIS LOVE LIKE KINZO, KANON OFFER HIM 2 BILLION OF YEN AND A METHOD TO KILL EVA WITHOUT LEAVE EVIDENCE.
GEORGE EAT THE MOST DANGEROUS POISON HOPE.
THE HOPE OF MARRY SHANNON AND IN THAT MOMENT KANON WANT STOP EVERYTHING BUT THE DICE WAS ALREADY ROLL FOR GEORGE.

GEORGE IS THE CULPRIT IN REALITY

>> No.24631710
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https://www.mediafire.com/file/gh5mhq1zufa/%255BBeatricexBattler%255D_Alister_Stella_Gray_%255BMilk_Tea%255D.zip/file

Just leaving this here. I haven't found this doujin on the panda.

>> No.24631796

People told me Umineko gets better so I read all the episodes and I still don't like it. Did I just get trolled?

>> No.24631811
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>>24631796
yes

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>>24631796
is normal you dont read Erikantrice manifesto so you cant understand nothing
https://pastebin.com/XVrRMWqS
remember when erika caged Battler in the logic error and Kanon save him?
well Erika is a personality of Kanon, erika turn in Kanon , save Battler then return Erika

>> No.24632175

>>24628781
Oh, that''s another thing Rena and Maria have in common. Standing in the rain like stubborn autists.

>> No.24632201

>>24628845
It's a fantasy scene meant to make you think Beatrice is some witch that grew up in a mansion in the middle of a forest in a random fairytale world from the middle ages.

>> No.24632226

Mariaは

>> No.24632310

>>24632226
autistic onahole です。

>> No.24632365

https://youtu.be/DXT_fJxicPE

Why is Mion's arse so bouncy?

>> No.24632504
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You are incookietent, Batoraaaaa

>> No.24632701

>>24631659
Isn't George killing everyone based on what he does in the love game with Episode 6? If he's willing to kill everyone for Shannon then, why didn't he sacrifice everyone else during the trial for headship when Gaap offered? Also sorry dude but I can't stretch my imagination that far to believe George was just slaughter everyone because of his relationship. I can understand him killing at most his parents but even that's a mega reach.

>> No.24632882

>>24632701
George killed everyone because his love story with Shannon was imposible to relize
her mother eva tell to him that she would kill Shannon if George marry her.

remember game 4th
George like kinzo choice the 3rd option
this mean he will do everything for Shannon and this is why accept to cooperate with Kanon

2 billion yen + kill eva and battler without leave proof (bomb)
perfect deal

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>>24632882
Why would he care about getting revenge on Gaap for killing them then? You're saying he was already going to kill them anyways so he'd have no obstacles in marrying Shannon. Because he ends up fighting Gaap he essentially rejects the headship and dies because of it. He could've easily just worked with Gaap, killed everyone, and went off to marry Shannon.

>> No.24633041

>>24632956
Because in reality he kill other accomplices and tried to kill Kanon

this is a riddle of R07 , he is not the accomplice , you cant use him, he is a king.

>> No.24633117

>>24633041
But why wouldn't he wait longer to kill his accomplices then? He goes after Gaap immediately. He could have went off to kill his family with his accomplices, then backstab them when they didn't expect it along with Shannon helping him. Him fighting Gaap immediately got him killed.

>> No.24633207

>>24633117
Anon read my manifesto
in the 4th game George killed Kumasawa after being called and Genji after killing Jessica

but this scene can rapresent the last dialogue between Kanon and George in ep4
after the murders Kanon and George met at the garden and when Kanon dont want let him killed Battler a discussion between them ended with a bullet in George's end.

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>>24632504

>> No.24633560

Would Teppei's girlfriend force Satoko into prostitution?

>> No.24634136

>>24630340
It was an interesting read anon. But I don't buy your Shannon is a separate person from Yasu explanation. How do you explain the room with one bed and Shannon going to sleep thinking about talking to Kumasawa about mystery novels?

>> No.24634273

>>24634136
After Yasu choice to become a witch (wfter the tricks towards other servants)in her mind she doesnt exist as human anymore.(until she become Kanon).
So her version of the story just dont include her as human

>> No.24634291

>>24634136
What you think about other parts?

>> No.24634545

>>24634273
Alright, fair. But why project her qualities onto Shannon?

>>24634291
I don't understand Geji's Kumasawa's and Nanjo's actions. To be honest I don't understand them in shkanontrice (at least the way it is in my head I haven't read the official theory) either. None of them seem like the kind of people who would be okay with a mass murder and more so become accomplices in one. They are just never portrayed as such.

>> No.24634688

>>24634545
Shannon is her only friend and the person who support Yasu in her choice to become a witch.
so for Yasu Shannon is her only contact with reality

>I don't understand Geji's Kumasawa's and Nanjo's actions

Genji consider Yasu like his son, he saved him, he raise him ecc and yasu is the daugther of Genji's loved person Kinzo.
he will do everything for Yasu.
so his motive is love

Nanjo instead do it for his grandson
Nanjo wanted money to save his life so he will do everything for save the life of his
grandson
so his motive his love

Kumasawa is a mix, she is like a mother for Yasu and she have a family buissness to save
so her motive is love

>> No.24634854

>>24634688
I completely forgot about Nanjo's granddaughter, that's interesting.

But look at banquet. If we assume the three of them were in on Yasu's plan, then why didn't it bother Nanjo at at all that Genji and Kumasawa got fucking killed?

>> No.24634998

>>24634854
for roulette destiny

during 1st twiligth Kanon mix 6 pills of poison and sleeping pills then put them in the food.
in every game the result change

1st game: 5 deaths so he only use gohda to complete the twiligth
2nd game: jackpot 6 deaths no servants needed to complete the twiligth
3rd game: miracle no one death , kanon forced to use the servants,the accomplices,kinzo and himself to complete the twiligth

this is why only parents and servnts died in the first twiligth and never cousins or nanjo

>> No.24635107

>>24634998
This doesn't really help. If we assume they knew about this "roulette" then I imagine it would be difficult to convince at least Kumasawa to follow the plan. And if they did not then from Nanjo's perspective the plan was a fluke and Yasu plans to kill everyone in which case the best course of action for him is to come clean and at least reveal Yasu's identity.

>> No.24635123

No, actually if they knew then all they had to do is just not eat the food, so none of them would die in the first twilight. And that leaves us with option 2.

>> No.24635172

>>24635107
>at least Kumasawa to follow the plan
the accompliices in my theory never kill everyone
i can understand your doubt if they killed someone but moeny to just help during a murder is different to accept money to kill someone.

then Kanon could just said this is a fake death pills
>>24635123
>>24634998
Only Parents ate poisoned food during the conference, if 6 parents dont die then Kanon kill the servants but not with the poison but in a normal way.

>> No.24635199

>>24634545
Kumasawa and Nanjo are told at the start that they'll be cooperating in a fake murder game. Genji is obedient to Yasu and the only person he cares about is Kinzo, so once he's dead the rest of the family might go as well.

>> No.24635302

>>24635172
>Only Parents ate poisoned food during the conference, if 6 parents dont die then Kanon kill the servants but not with the poison but in a normal way.
What kind of poison can kill between 6 and zero people depending on chance? But whatever I accept this. This still doesn't explain why Nanjo kept quiet in banquet. Actually it even makes it more ridiculous with Yasu killing servants directly.

>>24635199
>Kumasawa and Nanjo are told at the start that they'll be cooperating in a fake murder game.
Can you elaborate?
>Genji is obedient to Yasu and the only person he cares about is Kinzo, so once he's dead the rest of the family might go as well.
I disagree. He is not okay with his master raping somebody but apparently okay with mass murder? This just doesn't sit well with me even if he viewed Yasu as his daughter. Who would want to see their child become a murderer?

>> No.24635422

>>24635302
>He is not okay with his master raping somebody but apparently okay with mass murder?
Statutory rape is not real rape.

>This just doesn't sit well with me even if he viewed Yasu as his daughter. Who would want to see their child become a murderer?
He knows he fucked up raising the eunuch as a girl and wants to assist her in committing suicide. But he's also disturbingly loyal to his master and seemingly tired of life.

>> No.24635547

>>24635302
>What kind of poison can kill between 6 and zero people depending on chance?
nothing just mix poison and sleeping pills and put them casually in the food, then serve the food to the parents

maybe Kanon put 0 pills in the food or maybe 6, just casually.

>banquet
in banquet Nanjo is strange, he every 5 second say "it's was the witch", only the witch can do that and before die pls i have a grandson.

he know about the murder and for him the life of his grandson is more important than the life of some strangers

>> No.24635655

>>24631023
This is the only alternate theory I like. True genius.

>> No.24635666

>>24635547
>maybe Kanon put 0 pills in the food or maybe 6, just casually.
What? First you talk about a "roulette" then this, I am confused.

>he know about the murder and for him the life of his grandson is more important than the life of some strangers
We are going around in circles. I'm asking you why would Nanjo who understood that Yasu would kill even his "accomplices" keep playing dumb?

>> No.24635673

>>24635422
>Statutory rape is not real rape.
This is retarded, of course it is.

>> No.24635744

>>24635666
>What? First you talk about a "roulette" then this, I am confused.
is a roulette because you cant decide the result
Kanon mix poison pills and sleeping piils then put them causually in the food

there are 7 parents , 6 pills of poison and 7 sleeping pills.
so there is a maxinum of 6 parents death

this is a roulette because Kanon dont know the result
>>24635666
the closed room circle is the perfect way to fake deaths no?
so nanjo can be fool or just dont care because the life of his grandson is more important.

or maybe he is the only one who can fake a death so think of be untouchable

>> No.24635868

>>24635673
Explain why then. I think it's pretty obvious it's not the same thing.

>> No.24635881

>>24635744
>is a roulette because you cant decide the result
But... he can decide the result? By your own words " Kanon put 0 pills in the food or maybe 6, just casually." He decides whether, as a result, zero people die or six or any number in between. I don't know if it's your English or what but you are not making sense

>the closed room circle is the perfect way to fake deaths no?
Beatrice confirms their death and Nanjo as a doctor should be able to know that as well.
>or just dont care
How can he not care? Logically he can conclude that he'll fucking die. And Nanjo is a person who's not okay with dying.
>or maybe he is the only one who can fake a death so think of be untouchable
rewrite this I don't understand what you're saying.

>> No.24635902

>>24635868
Any nonconsenual sexual intercourse is rape. It doesn't matter if it's within the family or not. Just because she was his daughter doesn't mean he has the right to have sex with her.

>> No.24635936

>>24635881
anon put the pills in a bag and extract 7
this is what I mean, like the lottery
>Beatrice confirms their death and Nanjo as a doctor should be able to know that as well.
if they inspect the body but why you need inspect them if you knwo that are faked their deaths
>How can he not care? Logically he can conclude that he'll fucking die
die for save his grandson, every grandad will do it
>rewrite this I don't understand what you're saying.
he is the doctor the most important accomplice

>> No.24636061

>>24635936
>anon put the pills in a bag and extract 7 this is what I mean, like the lottery
Now I understand, thank you.
>if they inspect the body but why you need inspect them if you know that are faked their deaths
Yeah, but he'd still need to pretend to inspect the bodies surely he would notice they are actually dead during that.
>die for save his grandson, every grandad will do it
That makes sense if we use external logic. But what I was referring to are the moments in the story where we are shown explicitly that he indeed fears death and I can't imagine why he'd pretend to.
>he is the doctor the most important accomplice
His value is gone once he fakes Yasu's death so...

>> No.24636142

>>24636061
>Yeah, but he'd still need to pretend to inspect the bodies surely he would notice they are actually dead during that.
like if george entered in the garden shed during the first game
so risk are necessary
>But what I was referring to are the moments in the story where we are shown explicitly that he indeed fears death and I can't imagine why he'd pretend to
he was being killed, is normal bag for your life
>His value is gone once he fakes Yasu's death so...
if you still have a job to do then you are necessary

>> No.24636788

>>24635902
The story implies it was consensual. She was just too uneducated to realize the implications and was groomed to be Kinzo's new wife, which isn't morally right but doesn't count as RAPE unless you are a puritan cuck. Let alone some giant sin worse than murder or whatever.

The scene from EP7 is an exaggeration made up in Yasu's head, just like the part where Kinzo decides to steal the gold. She didn't know the truth and decided Kinzo did everything with evil intent.

>> No.24636814

>>24635902
>Any nonconsenual sexual intercourse is rape
Half the time society simply decides someone "can't give consent" even if they do, and then proceeded to count it as rape and traumatize the "victim" over it. It's kinda bullshit.

>> No.24636891

>>24636788
From my understand the story implied it was less consensual than you believe given how regretful and apologetic Kinzo was over his actions and the fact Genji and Kumasawa kept Yasu a secret from him so he wouldn't make the same mistake. And sure, you could say that scene of Kinzo coming onto Beatrice II was an exaggeration from Yasu, but at that point you can say just about everything we've seen is an exaggeration or a half truth from whoevers perspective it is. When Rosa was telling the story of how she "killed" Beatrice II that was from over a decade prior, who knows how that story changed over time.

>> No.24636912

>>24635902
yes, but only if you define consent sensibly. otherwise you can get ridiculous rape accusations like "we were both drunk and I decided afterwards that I got carried away", or "I wanted to say no, but I was too afraid to say :^)".

>> No.24636948

When did Erikantrice posting start?
When do you think he will get tired and stop?

>> No.24636949

>>24636912
Someone being too scared to say no to sex is still rape anon. Sex isn't something that is forced by one person on to the other. Putting someone in a situation where they have to say yes doesn't make the sex consensual.

>> No.24636967

>>24636948
Started a while back. When will he stop? Dunno, eventually. If anything you can just filter it.

>> No.24637020

>>24636949
true, if the fear is reasonable, i.e. if there is an intent to intimidate.

>> No.24637022

>>24636948
until r07 said erika is not Kanon

>> No.24637507

>>24637022
But by the existence of Vergilius who is proto-Erika, it's impossible...

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>>24637507
Erikanon-Virgilius is confirmed by umineko Saku the 19th man
so Erika is the culprit. so Erika is a fantasy of Beatrice so Erika is kanon

>> No.24637676

Battler Blanco

Jorge Gordo

Satoko en pelotas

Rena cagando

>> No.24637722

>>24635302
>Can you elaborate?
As EP6 implies (or more like literally shows), the "fake murder game" is part of the general plot. As to say, some of the accomplices are convinced the murders are going to be a joke to trick the rest of the family, especially Battler, since Yasu wants him to "solve" her irl mystery novel. Kumasawa is a natural trickster and likes to pamper Yasu so it's easy to convince her. She's also probably feeling guilty about a lot of stuff, and more likely than not, Yasu is even paying her all of the money her children end up getting. Nanjo is probably feeling a bit guilty too, but money is his main motivation: he needs it urgently for his grandson. Even so, both of them think, at the beginning, it's all a play. The victims are going to be convinced one for one to play dead and Yasu is going to apply realistic makeup to them. Hell, for all they know she might even buy corpses and dress them up.
Then, of course, Yasu gets help of some of the adults (which ones vary each game). In EP1 she most likely convinces Eva and Hideyoshi, too, that the murders are fake. That's why they seem so relaxed to even talk about taking vacations after the first twilight, why Hideyoshi lies about Shannon being there, why Eva tries to get Battler interested in the murder mystery. Then they are killed so no need to trick them anymore. Kumasawa doesn't really looks at the obviously dead bodies of these two, though, so she being convinced it's a joke until the last moment seems plausible. Nanjo has to realize what is actually happening at some point, but Yasu most likely only talks to him about her real intentions after the typhoon starts and the bomb is waiting to happen, so he only can obey her, hope he doesn't die and take the money.
So pretty much all of the games can be solved with "Kumasawa never found out it wasn't a trick" and "Nanjo found out too late and couldn't do anything about it". Gohda, when he's an accomplice, probably falls into Kumasawa's category too. In EP3, for example, they are both convinced they are only going to play dead in the first twilight before Yasu kills them for real. The adult's reasons to be accomplices vary each game though (Eva and Hideyoshi think it's a joke, Rosa is most likely a knowing accomplice, Krauss and Natsuhi are being threatened by the bomb, and they are probably all both being bribed and threatened in EP4). But yeah, the fake murder plot is a thing.

>> No.24637746

>>24637676
But Rena is already a shit, how can she produce more of herself?

>> No.24637812

Wow, why do people shit on Rena? I have seen those comments in /a/ too.

>> No.24637824

>>24637722
I wonder why Nanjo or Kumasawa don't try escaping into the forest when they know who the culprit is? Even if that makes the others suspect them, they may survive and be found when the police comes. I'm sure they had at least a chance to do that.

>> No.24637830

I'll never understand why otaku virgins (or pseudo virgins who can ever get sex with weird-ugly girls, like myself and probably a big chunk of the board) get so hysterical about what's considered rape and what not. This is only a threatening matter for chads, why would you care?

>> No.24637836

>>24637722
Thanks for the detailed explanation anon. Though I must say all this rings kind of hollow.

>> No.24637859

>>24637722
Every motive except love is an insult to the reader

>> No.24637924

>>24637824
>Kumasawa
I don't think she ever finds out about anything, in any game. In EP1 she has no reason to suspect. In EP2 she and Nanjo "disappear" and then are found dead, and once more Kumasawa probably thinks the first and second twilight were fakes. In EP3 she dies at the very beginning. In EP4 she is once again playing a role alongside Gohda, and keeps on doing that without truly knowing anything until she dies.
>Nanjo
Even though he might know about the bomb, he probably doesn't know any detail, so for all he knows the explosion would cover up the entire island. He's also really old. And the most important thing: he really needs the money. Playing nice and hoping Yasu is going to both let him live and pay him the money he needs is his best bet in his situation, I think.

>> No.24637938

>>24637836
Why do you think so?

>> No.24638006

>>24637938
It all makes sense but there is no love

But seriously, it's probably just the clash with how I personally viewed the vn/irritation at not coming up with this myself

>> No.24638049

>>24637924
>. In EP1 she has no reason to suspect.
NOPE
EVERYONE WHO SEE A BODY WITH HALF OF THE FACE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS DEAD

NANJO AND KUMASAWA KNOW THAT KRAUSS WAS DEATH

>> No.24638115

Why do Americucks call Eva "Iva"? And why do they call Chloe "Chloi"? Can't they tell vowels apart?

>> No.24638239

>>24638115
Because in ther language the letter E is pronunced I

>> No.24638323

>>24638115
Thiss a basic trait of English in general, not just American dialects. There aren't pronunciation rules so much as there's a general consensus based on what feels correct. And the alternative pronunciations you have in mind probably feel like shit.

>> No.24638359

>>24638115
Who the hell pronounces Eva as Iva? That'd be like people pronouncing Ivan as Evan.

>> No.24638413
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>>24638115
I don't know if they do that, but I know that for a time Yoshiya was translated as "Joshua".

>> No.24638738

>>24638323
I get that, but they do that with literally every foreign word. Even though most languages have only one simple pronunciation for each vowel. It should be easy to ignore the English clusterfuck.

>> No.24638753

I want to squeeze Satoko's plump assets.

>> No.24639325
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>>24638753
I want to lick Kanon's legs.

>> No.24639765

>>24639325
I wouldn't usually agree, but that's a nice-looking image nonetheless.

>> No.24640774

Beatriz Dorada

Jessica Peluda

Kanon eunuco

>> No.24642705
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24642705

I just finished Minagoroshi....
I want takano to step on me...
Should I read console arcs while I wait for Matsuri mod? I know most of you are purists who will tell me to play it with the original sprites but I've already read 1-7 with it so I'm already too used to it and don't want to adjust to something different at the very end.

>> No.24644434

>>24639325
same anon
the cutest girl of rokkenjima

>> No.24644758

>>24642705
>console arcs
they are bad and not even written by ryukishi

>> No.24645341
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>>24640774
>Kanon eunuco
Kanon mujer (tetas grandes)

>> No.24645380

>>24640774
Kanon tomboyo

>> No.24645565

>>24637722
> In EP1 she most likely convinces Eva and Hideyoshi, too, that the murders are fake.
EP1 is not a good example to show this. Eva told George to come with them to the guest room. At this part I don't think there is an arranged rendezvous with Yasu. And then there is the casual talk about Beatrice in the kitchen Battler overheard. Of course Kumasawa and Maria joined them to play along and it's not strange at all. But re-reading these scenes with the true culprit in mind these scenes are off.

>> No.24645864
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24645864

Rosa "if she uuus reach for the noose" Ushiromiya

>> No.24645873
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>>24639765
you want to fuck this chair... you are now furnituresexual...

>> No.24645986

>>24645864
4/10

>> No.24646937

>>24642705
read tsukiotoshi

>> No.24648991
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>>24642705
Faggots will tell you not to read the console arcs.
Faggots will tell you not to play with ps3 sprites.
Faggots will tell you not to use the steam sprites.
Faggots will tell you to use the old soundtrack.
Faggots will tell you the old anime is shit.
Faggots will tell you the new anime is going to be shit.
Why would you ever care about the opinion of /jp/?

>> No.24650998

>>24638006

The 'love' stuff has more to do with 'whydunnit' than 'howdunnit' to be honest. Kinda like EP5 is described as a game 'without love' because in that game, Yasu's primary motive isn't getting Battler to notice she's the culprit, but instead her Battler as an accomplice and the main motivation is getting revenge on Natsuhi.

>> No.24651073

Is there any meaning of how chapter ends in Umineko (shattered glass or fading)? I noticed that in most traumatic chapter it's glass shattering.

>> No.24651324

>>24651073
I think it's just an effect. Don't trust me, it took me a long time to figure out the clock actually indicated the time and wasn't just a transition.

>> No.24651949
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This image was ruined for me once I noticed the teeth.

>> No.24652012
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>>24651949
Holy fucking shit

IS ERIKA BEATRICE IS ERIKA IN THIS IMAGE
SAME SMILE WITH CANINES

>> No.24652098
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24652098

>>24651949
>>24652012
FUCK FUCK
UMINEKO SAKU IS A RIP-OFF OF MY MANIFESTO

DENY THIS SHKANONTRICE FAGS

>> No.24652744
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>>24652098
>>24652012
>>24651949
Better version

>> No.24653067

>>24650998
Pretty sure the culprit is pretty open about the motive. Hard to believe Battler symphatize with Yasu to make Natsuhi talk because he helped her in the study. Also, he claimed he saw Kinzo. If Natsuhi have confessed about Kinzo's death earlier Battler would be suspected by Erika.
If Yasu's goal was ruining Natsuhi it could be netter from the shadows. It could be the preparation for the mystery .

>> No.24653106

>>24652012
>>24652098
>>24652744
Alright now I know you're autistic.

>> No.24653142

>>24653106
look these 2 image and say to me that arent the same image

>> No.24653230

>>24650998
Love in a mystery is respect between Reader and Author

why there isnt love in this game?
because the author trick the reader by making Erika the mastermind of the crime.

>> No.24660357

Post it. You know the one.

>> No.24661487

Imagine sex with oji-san

>> No.24662114

>>24661487
2cute for sex

>> No.24663286

>>24633117
Gaap isn't real you retard

>> No.24663406

Zero IQ thread ever since Erikantrice faggots took refuge in here.

>> No.24663742
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24663742

>>24663406
0 iq threads when shkanontrice make tumbrl conquest /jp/
160 of iq since erikantrice give back dignity to umineko

>> No.24664132

>>24663742
Sorry but I've never been in tumblr nor will I ever go in there by my own will.

>> No.24664199

>>24664132
so you discord same shit

>> No.24664465

>>24663406
If erikatrice really is such a 0 IQ crackpot theory surely it would've been refuted by now after all these month... really makes one think

>> No.24664549

>>24664465
Based anon
People here deny the fact that at least Erikantrice is an alternative theory because solve everything by respecting all the red truth.

>> No.24664625
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24664625

>>24661487
Which oji-san?

>> No.24664709

>>24664465
If you've been here ever since that cancer showed up, you would've seen how many people had already refuted that crap. You should already knew the reason by now why the Italian anon is just projecting his delusions in this one echo chamber.
>>24664549
>respecting all the red truth
See how delusional he is?

>> No.24664811

>>24664709
>See how delusional he is?
0 argument
tell me a red truth that violate my theroy
pro tip there arent

>you would've seen how many people had already refuted that crap
no one, if you mean my theory is wrong because the manga said that is wrong

FUCK OF GOAT

>> No.24664842

>>24664709
I haven't, but I went through the archives and honestly failed to see a single time he was decisively cornered. Yeah there is some reaching here and there in erikanrice but you would be lying if you said there isn't in shkanontrice. So In my opinion it is an interesting alternative view of the story at least. And although it became more spam like as time went on it still did encourage new discussion in an otherwise stale thread, so I think it is a net positive in the end.

>> No.24665245
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24665245

>>24664842
That's because he wasn't.
Jealous hater anons claim they don't have to refute his theory because it's stupid or it already was refuted "countless times in other threads", but that's just because they can't come up with solid counter arguments.

>> No.24665318
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24665318

>>24665245
>his theory because it's stupid or it already was refuted "countless times in other threads",
again dont argue

GOAT NO ONE CONFUTE MY THEORY
YOU WANT ME GO AWAY FROM HERE?
DENY IT
CMON IS A STUPID THEORY MUST BE EASY

>> No.24665326

>>24664842
When your first argument is "Kanon is too cute to be a boy" and you can't write for shit then most people are going to dismiss your theory without thinking about it. If you want people to read it, then rewrite that abortion of a manifesto.

>> No.24665335

>>24665326
It's true though.

>> No.24665447

>>24665326
what?
where is written this in my manifesto?

image be so goat that dont read all mystery explaination and focus on memes

PATHETIC GOAT
LIKE I JUST SAID DENY IT ANON
YOU CANT SO CONTINUE TO CHANGE SUBJECT
KANON IS A BOY FOR YOU
WELL IF YOU HAVE READ UMINEKO INSTEAD OF THE DISGUTING MANGA YOU MUST AGREE IN NOTHING IS CONFIRMED WITHOUT PROOFS

>> No.24665464

>>24665335
samefagging
true what?

in my manifesto i explain the reason why Kanon is female because if Kanon isnt a girl then Kinzo have no reason to commit the same sin again since Kanon is a male and cant become pregant

>> No.24665734

>>24665447
>>24581230

>> No.24665828

>>24665734
This is my manifesto for you?
This is a meme read my manifesto before speak anon

>> No.24665859
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>>24579175
I don't think it's particularly the game's fault.
It's just that most "SFW" weeb communities end up looking like suitable nests soon enough and, as we all know, one tranny is fine, two is pushing it, and from three you get the zerg rush effect, with countless new ones coming in as soon as they hear about the "friendly safe community" they found.

The main chat ends up hijacked, with 90% of the topics being talked about at any given time being what pills they're taking, what therapist they're seeing, what transphobic event befell them recently, what words hurt their feefees and must be banned, what new character said TRANS RIGHTS, and so on.
As soon as you get past critical mass, any server filled with them will completely alienate anyone normal that might have joined a server to talk about the fucking games.

>> No.24667464

>>24663286
t. goat

>> No.24667990
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24667990

what did ryukishi mean by this?

>> No.24668005

>>24587759
You're living in it

>> No.24668099

>>24667990
confirmed Erikantrice

>> No.24668209

>>24668099
It's Jayrikantrice now.

>> No.24668272

the culprits are natsuhi's big prestigious milkers

>> No.24668275

>>24665859
Why are they so fucking obsessed with being trannies? That would be annoying enough, but they are also disgusting SJWs 99% of the time.

Are they really so mentally weak that not a single fucking tranny can avoid getting brainwashed by the cult?

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24668362

>>24665859
the big problem is when they're artists, so you have to scroll past the SJW bullshit on their twitter feed... it must be the western equivalent of gacha screenshots and food pics

(twitter needs to fucking die)

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24668482

>>24668209
cant wait to make Jaydentrice manifesto and show that Jayden is a cute tomboy and miyao is not gay

>> No.24669549

>>24648991
But all of those are right.

>> No.24669552

>>24668275
Maybe they need a way to cope with the fact that they are doing something outright crazy.
It's like when you tell something to yourself many times and you try hard to believe it's true, you may eventually really think of it as true.
So they need to tell themselves what they are doing is normal and they need to feel accepted by society so they spread those words to everyone.

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24669573

>>24667990
that things may be not what they seem

>> No.24669654

>>24669549
Trying too hard to fit in.

>> No.24670877

>Fredrika-Bernkastel's-Sin-Poem.mp5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHzjgNoRmjg

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24671007

>>24668275
It unironically fills the role that religion plays in life, just the same as government does. Depressed people often look to making their belief or interest their very identity. They're obssessed with what they consider to be their most prominent aspect of their life. Just as you have some nerds whose identity is their fandom. When you can claim something other than your own personality as a part of your identity, it feels safer, there are no immediate worries, you can turn a blind eye to whatever is wrong with your actual self. However, in doing so, any insult to that belief, fandom, lgbt group, etc... becomes a personal attack.

Labels and symbols, labels and symbols... it never ends. It's easy to deal with the world when everyone has a label and can put in a box.

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>>24671007
t.

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I haven't finished the fragments/tips but Phase 1's was disappointing. It feels more like a prologue than something that could be enjoyed on its own like Higurashi and Umineko. The ending was particularly weird and inconclusive, some parts were more than predictable (the order falls apart when everyone gets a court martial, duh[/spoiler] dad makes Miyao kill an enemy knight, duh) while others were not just mysterious but nonsensical (blue Jayden?).

[by the way, should a middle-aged lady really dress like that?]

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24673547

>>24673536
looks like i completely fucked up the spoilers

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>> No.24673706

>>24673536
>>24673547
Give it some room to breathe instead of comparing it to already completed works. It set up a lot of mysteries that aren't even close to being resolved yet

>> No.24673756

>>24673706
I wasn't comparing it to the completed works, I was comparing it to the first episodes.

>> No.24674042

>>24673536
For me the best part of phase 1 were the tips. I only really felt like I got into it when I started reading them.
Who's planning on rereading phase 1 once the phase 2 release date is announced? I'll probably be able to enjoy it more the second time now that I've warmed up to it. The anticipation of a new WTC at the beginning alienates you from fully enjoying it.

>> No.24674062

New anime will come out in October
https://twitter.com/oricon_anime_/status/1280169902909714433

>> No.24674116

>>24674062
I guess this tweet is more appropriate
https://twitter.com/higu_anime/status/1280169570678931457

>> No.24674133

>>24674062
Have they ever declared it as a complete new series or not?

>> No.24674150

i want to fuk hanyuu

>> No.24674252

>>24674062
it kinda sucks that it's going to come out so late but better that than nothing

>> No.24674355

Satoko's disgusting ass that she's never shown anyone before! Even though she's such a cute loli!

>> No.24674432
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24674432

>>24668275
Many modern trannies aren't really born with that mental illness, they are just autists who got pulled into the SJW cult, a place where they feel accepted. Their autistic "special interest" tends to be an unhealthy obsession with gender and social justice.

I'm kind of a sperg myself (not the irrationally stubborn type who has trouble with irony, those are the worst), so I know one when I see it. Most trannies these days are literal autists obsessed with gender, not real trannies.

They tend to have relatively high IQ but not high enough, so they feel smarter than everyone else while still falling for every SJW fallacy, which turns them into raging puritans who can't stop screeching about the "evil" pedos and get offended by fucking everything.

>> No.24674477

>>24673536
I like how Miyao's naive idea to trick the military backfired and got them all killed. Faggot actually thought nobody would leak it, lmao. After literally inviting thousands of random people into the order.

>> No.24674509

>>24673536
I don't know if you were around when Higurashi and Umineko released, but you were supposed to reread every episode over and over while waiting for the next one.

Ciconia becomes much better when you go over it again and again, analyzing everything and trying to find foreshadowing or make theories. It's not supposed to be something you read once and ignore until the next part comes out.

>> No.24676147

>>24674477
my boyfriend who bottoms for me is not a faggot take that back

>> No.24676982

>>24676147
Why does Italian anon refuse to use proper punctuation? I can understand not being good at English, but this shit makes him sound like an absolute braindead retard incapable of organizing his thoughts or expressing himself in a coherent way. This has nothing to do with his English skill, he just flat out types like a kindergartner in any language and probably thinks the same way.

Even my super cute 9 year old loli cousin has better grammar and punctuation, and she's the delinquent type who doesn't give a shit about her grades. It could be the autocorrect, but that doesn't add commas or periods to sentences.

>> No.24677436

>>24674432
They are like parasites. They know nobody is interested in their preachy shit and victim narrative, so they take over established franchises and make them woke. Brand recognition makes basedboys and normies eat that shit up and get brainwashed, and they accuse you of "nitpicking" whenever you bring up the woke crap, because they feel the need to defend the brand.

I also hate how they took over rainbows and made my two favorite colors their damn flag. But what I hate most is how they've made me (with good reason) hate trannies and gays. I never gave a fuck about what people do in the bedroom and would normally support them, even if they are literally mutilating their genitals over a ridiculous gender obsession, but the SJW cult has turned nearly all of them into irrational neo puritans obsessed with wrongthink. Now I can't stand faggots or trannies because I just KNOW they are dreadful human beings who would gladly ruin your life over drawings, saying certain offensive words or having the wrong thoughts. I've met good ones who aren't part of the cult, but I can't help being prejudiced against LGBT people because most of the time my fears come true. 99% of them are part of the SJW cult.

Take The Last of Us 2, for example, where Ellie forgives the person who tortured and murdered her father figure in front of her, even though the cunt never felt remorse over it, but she absolutely refuses to forgive the "bigot" who called her a dyke at the beginning. There is no room for atonement for these woke types. It's like a cult. If you commit what they consider a sin, no matter how harmless or inconsequential, they will dehumanize you at the drop of a hat and wish you were dead. They are definitely on the wrong side of history. They aren't even useful idiots, they are straight up villains, insane assholes who unironically believe they have the moral high ground.

>> No.24677528

>>24674432
I'll never understand why so many people have trouble understanding jokes online. Youtube is full of those dumbasses who get wooshed over the most obvious jokes. Half the time they aren't even autistic or anything, just dumb motherfuckers. They are either incapable of spotting an obvious exaggeration that can't possibly be anything but a joke, or they are so desperate to correct someone to boost their ego that they don't even read the message. Seriously, I don't get how ANYONE can have trouble spotting ANY joke, sarcasm or irony online, no matter how subtle. It's scary how far human IQ has dropped in the last few generations.

>> No.24677612

>>24677528
People have such a hard-on to share their "no duh" point of view that they are blind to sarcasm. They just see it as a chance to finally share their view on why it's wrong to kick puppies in the head. But it IS baffling how they can't detect sarcasm even when the context of the situation makes it absolutely impossible for someone to believe the comment is a sincere expression of your beliefs. People always invoke Poe's Law to explain away this stupidity, saying that there are so many different opinions in this world that you never quite know if someone saying something ridiculous might actually believe that. But I call bullshit. It happens even in contexts or fandoms where everyone involved should know what's an obvious joke and what isn't. It's just baffling how someone can read the most blatantly obvious joke, something so ridiculous that it can't be anything but a parody, and still take it as a sincere opinion they need to point out as being wrong.

>> No.24677701 [DELETED] 

I have the theory that Americans and trannies tend to be puritan cucks because their genitals are damaged. Circumcision, which is done to babies in America by default, is genital mutilation, and it fucks up your dick reducing the pleasure in about 70% and making the rest dry and calloused. No wonder they don't value a good fap and would trade it away for virtue points. They don't enjoy it as much as they should, their dicks are literally mangled husks of what they should've been. You might not believe this, you might think I'm exaggerating, you might think your mutilated dick is perfectly functional, but you have no fucking idea what you are missing out on. I don't blame you for being in denial, though. It would mean you'd have to confront the fact that your parents knowingly mutilated your genitals for no reason and there is no way to fix it. This strong denial is the reason parents keep doing it to their kids, believing there's nothing wrong with it.

Americans are fucking sick in the head. And if you have phimosis, there are better solutions than having your foreskin cut off, fuck off with that shit.

>> No.24677748

>>24677701
Despite recent decreases in its prevalence, male genital mutilation, aka “circumcision” is still common in many areas.

>it is barbaric — the genitals of infants are literally torn and cut apart with NO anasthesia
>is for no medical benefit — no credible pediatric health organizations recommend circumcision
>is damaging to the adult male — nearly 50% of the total skin of the penis is removed and 80% of the nerve endings leading to numb and unsatisfying sex for the man and his partner
>can lead to horrible complications — as many as 55% suffer complications including mutilated/severed penises, nerve damage, infection, and death

Female circumcision in all forms (even ceremonial circumcision which is merely a pin prick on the labia), is banned throughout most of the world. But nobody cares about male genital mutilation. Probably because of the denial mentioned above, and because it's tied to the jewish religion, which makes it impossible to ban it without banning jewish practices.

I also believe that the mental trauma of infant circumcision, without anesthesia, leaves a scar in the kid's mind. They may not remember it, but having such a shocking and horrific experience shorly after being born causes subconscious trauma and can develop into mental and emotional issues later in life.

>> No.24677772

>>24677748
Up until the 1990s it was believed that babies couldn't feel pain, so they didn't use any anesthetic at all. These scumbags (and the entire medical industry is absolute scum of the earth) used to perform open heart surgery on infants without anesthetic as well. They started using lidocane sometime in the 1990s, which still doesn't do much, better than nothing though I guess.

We should just abolish western medicine entirely. It seems like it's only real purpose is to make people suffer for as long as possible.
>Got cancer and want to have a dignified death? Sorry bucko but that's illegal. Don't worry though, we can subject you to 10 years of state funded torture where we fill you full of drugs and perform a bunch of experimental surgery. At the end of it all you can spend half a year lying in a bed plugged into 3 different machines while your relatives gather around your cancer riddled body. A nurse will be around twice a day to clean out the bag of shit surgically attached to your chest and to stick a new tube up your penis. Keep praying that you pass away in your sleep because it ain't happening on our watch.

>> No.24678218

>>24677772
>Up until the 1990s it was believed that babies couldn't feel pain, so they didn't use any anesthetic at all
Jesus fuck man

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>>24576640
Happy birthday, twins.

>> No.24678266

>>24677772
Reminds me of that florida dentist who did oral surgery without any anesthetic

>> No.24678267

>>24678261
i want to ensure the sonozaki line continues

>> No.24678280

>>24678267
Unless you take Sonozaki as your last name it won't. Even then it will ring hollow, a once powerful name forever tainted by Anon Y. Mous.

>> No.24678285

>>24678261
Which one /jp/? WHICH ONE?

>> No.24678294

>>24677772
yeah, fuck Nanjo

>> No.24678474
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Holy shit Taraimawashi was fucking garbage is tsukiotoshi any better?

>> No.24678528

>>24678261
the paizuri family

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>>24678528
even grandma?

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24679583

>>24676147
>boy

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24679587

I can't wait for the new anime.

>> No.24679592

>>24665859
Both Ciconia and Umineko are drenched in LGBT themes

>> No.24680167

Blue Miyao is lewd

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>>24678261

>> No.24681693

>>24679587
OMG
I knew Higurashi reminded me of something I read.

>> No.24683098
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24683098

>>24678285
μ−

>> No.24683236

>>24679592
Ciconia has that one explanation of homosexual relationships in different factions for like 30 minutes in a 20 hour VN. Umineko really just has Yasu and her story and that doesn't even come in until the end. I think drenched is a bit of an overexaggeration.

>> No.24683934

>>24683236
Yasu isn't a faggot you fucking faggot

>> No.24684153

Dr. Mario is a Maria expy

>> No.24684408

Don't forget that K1 cross-dressed and liked it.

>> No.24684794

>>24676982
The person you quoted is most likely not Erikanon though? And he just wrote a completely understandable sentence while pretending to be mad, so I think it's fine.
You're totally right about Erikanon though. He's problably a high level autist.
Also
>my super cute 9 year old loli cousin
>she's the delinquent type

>> No.24685009

>>24684408
Didn't Mion tease him because he got a boner?

>> No.24685397

>>24676982
>Even my super cute 9 year old loli cousin has better grammar and punctuation, and she's the delinquent type
fuck off Satoshi

>> No.24685789
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24685789

Don't stop thinking Ciconiabros. Even if ryukishi said It's not needed, even if the difficulty is extreme, It's still our job to expose the truth behind the A3W

>> No.24686241

>>24685789
Maybe if I ever cared about Ciconia, I would think about it. I'll save any thinking for after Phase 2 in the hopes that it's not also depressingly mediocre as well.

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>>24686241
Well, that is too bad. I do hope Phase 2 is good enough for you to start caring about it anon.

>> No.24687672

>>24687406
3/4 belts he has are useless

>> No.24687707

>>24679587
Why is this so upsetting?

>> No.24687743

>>24676982
>your delinquent loli cousin will never get humiliated on live TV in Beyond Scared Straight
I love how they humiliated that one cunt.

>> No.24687814

>>24687672
Toujirou's useless belts and zippers are a huge hint. He probably cheated on his wife with an expy of Nomura from Higurashi.

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>> No.24688526

QUICK, DOES ANYONE HAVE THE PS3 EVA SPRITE SOMEONE EDITED TO GIVE HER LARGER BREASTS? I NEED IT

>> No.24689125

think im gonna masturbate to ange tonight
havent done that in a while

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24689137

>>24689125
Based

>> No.24689509

>>24678474
Tsukiotoshi is great.

>> No.24691578

I just finished the Higurashi VN and I'm watching the Deen anime right now, but I'm kind of lost on Tatarigoroshi-hen.

Is the reason why everyone is saying that Keiichi was at the festival that they're covering him since they know he was responsible for killing Teppei? But then I don't understand why Satoko claims Teppei is still alive, even though the police think Keiichi killed him; or what happened to his corpse. Finally, why does Irie die?

>> No.24691689

>>24691578
Teppei has a twin brother that Satoko doesnt know about. The Teppei that Kei killed isn't the one that takes care of Satoko, hence why she says he still alive.
Irie dies because he's a fucking loser who realized that Kei1 has the balls to do what needs to be done and will inevitably be the one to take Satoko's virginity instead of him, so he offs himself.

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