/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Fuck you, I'll find a vampire some day. Then we'll see who's still a virgin.

This is one of the reasons why 2D>3D.

>In reality no one could possibly meet such lofty expectations.

I've realized that, but that won't stop me from dreaming.
I'll accept it and work with what I've got, and if that isn't enough then hey, at least I tried.

Quantum orgasms

>>2456160
This anon speaks the truth

the harsh, bitter truth ;_;

>>2456122
Uhhhh no shit?

Yesterday I met a girl who seemed pretty smart, played piano and loved Chopin. She was also very homely and not fit in the slightest.

Why does God have to crap on me like that, seriously.

>>2456193
If God did exist, I'd imagine he'd be the biggest troll. I mean, I know I would if I was God.

>>2456193
>She was also very homely and not fit in the slightest.
What's wrong with that?

>>2456209
Which is why you aren't, thank goodness.

>>2456210

Everyone in Ryobroshi's games are rotund. I'm assuming anon meant she was a beached whale.

>>2456210
He means she's fat.

I'm curious, what are your requirements in a girl/woman, anon?

>>2456215
>>2456217
Oh.

>>2456231
My only wish would be that she accept me for who I am and let me continue my weeaboo ways.

>>2456231

Must not be fat, must not be dumb, must be highly intelligent, must have proper table manners (including knowing the difference between the soup spoon and the dessert spoon, it shows that she has class), must be compassionate, must be in good physical shape and willing to jog/play tennis, must have a college degree and work in a respectable job, must be willing to turn off her cell phone on dates, must be willing to cuddle every day, must have a sense of humor

I know, I won't be buying any wedding rings anytime soon.

>>2456136

>>2456210
Homely = euphemism for ugly as sin.

>>2456231
For me, a cute little girl (hurr /jp/edo here hurr) who loves to play music would be ideal, backed by a permissive society and two families that would approve of the union. She doesn't have to be gorgeous, just someone with whom I could relate and who loves me dearly.

The reason why waifus are "idealist tripe" is due to the fact that if they weren't perfect in some way, they would hold no sway over us since inherently, 2d < 3d. In the real world, certain nuances such as the smell of your lover or their body temperature and the softness of their skin all add up to something that is much more than mere physical appearance, and those little important things cannot be conveyed properly in the 2d medium. 2d has to compensate for the lack of those things somewhere, so it often does so through physical appearance and personality.

I think the OP might be on to something here.

I have.

Waifu =/= perfection if your ideal waifu has faults

My ideal waifu is Pygma-chan.

>>2456349
o no u dont u trol

>>2456341

I could probably deal with a crazy axe-wielding waifu if she were cute enough, her cuteness being directly proportionate to her degree of craziness.

Nothing wrong with being an idealist.

>>2456322
Have what, exactly?

>>2456341

Having a contrived fault does not detract from a character's perfection-- if anything it makes them more believable and thus, more likely to be waifus.

>>2456369
Fascinating.

>>2456254
>I know, I won't be buying any wedding rings. Ever.
Fix'd
>>2456356
Of course not. As long as you accept that an ideal will never come true and that you must work with the tools you were given.
And that's what I wasn't able to do. I seem to prefer the escapism of daydreaming about a perfect mate instead of getting off my ass and finding one. Maybe I'm just lazy.

it's just a manifestation of how absolutely pathetic these people's lives have become.

I mean, is anyone in this forum actually as bad off as to fantasize over a "waifu"? I think it's just hyperbole, trying to fit in with the neet/weeaboo subculture.

In short, you're all closet jocks and preps. Have fun on your date this saturday (which you most likely have because you're fit and attractive).

You all make me sick.

>>2456369
Even likable faults mean that a character is not perfect. Any fault is potentially likable to some people and not likable to others.

>>2456379
hell, when you're dead and in the ground, you won't be any worse off than someone attractive and successful.

>>2456383
And a perfect character isn't likable for anyone.

Nobody likes a Mary-Sue.

Well, unless she's meant to be a stand-in for the audience, but then she can't be a waifu.

>>2456383
Are you really as pathetic as you're letting on here? I mean, seriously? How old are you?

>>2456397
gah, crap, that reply was meant for
>>2456379

I've never understood the whole waifu thing myself, but whatever. The closest thing that I have is a wistful desire for a Sanjiyan to make me her Wu, to treat me fairly, and beat the ever-living snot out of anybody who disembowels me.

>>2456397
How is not looking for a mate that pathetic?

>>2456231
Someone who takes care of how she looks, and is not a slut. Minimum requirements.

This is probably as good as /jp/ could ever hope to get.

oh well, at least she might have a good personality

You mean it's unrealistic to expect someone to care completely about you and never do things that will emotionally hurt you?

Go figure.

>>2456420
I guess something is better than nothing?

>>2456402
As probably one of the few people who probably knows what the fuck you're talking about I think I can safely say the following.

I THOUGHT I WAS MESSED UP. Thank you. You make me feel far better about myself.

>>2456420
>good personality
>3D
I don't think so.

>>2456425
Oh, shit.

Is this why we get so many mom and sister threads?

>>2456439

I dunno, fat girls tend to be nicer than normal sized 3D girls; largely as a result of their years and years of bullying and abuse for their size.

You won't have to worry about anyone stealing her from you unless you happen to live in a region with a lot of chubby chasers who are more successful than you

I hate fat people, though. If they can't take care of their body then I doubt they can take care of me.

>>2456448

I lol'ed.

>>2456409
I don't know. It's just the most basic need of any human. That you are so inept at meeting it shows that there must be something very wrong with you.

Are you missing half your face? Both your legs? When you look at real people do you have hallucinations of bugs crawling under their skin? What's wrong with you?

Dropping the façade for a minute, I'm the same way. I'm just trying to troll a response out of you.

>>2456448

Probably.

ITT: characters who set our standards exceedingly high

>>2456462

the one thing which everyone here seems to have in common is that they want a girl who is somewhat like their mom in terms of care and a sister in terms of control and dominance but without the incest factor of either

Are you suggesting that we throw away our ideals?

>>2456402
That's... all you want? That's kind of sweet.

Now I wish I could make you my Yakumo...

>>2456460
On the other hand, you could argue that we have psychologically ascended to a superior mentality simply because we are capable of living without fulfilling such a basic human need.

We have reached a point so far above the average person that our goals are completely incomprehensible to those who attempt to assess us in the same way.

>>2456462
I know it doesn't match my namesake, but she's just perfect.

>>2456475

My ideal is to never die, even when I've been killed.

>>2456472
No, I'm afraid I would very much like the incest factor.

what ever happened to finishing schools and girls who wanted to learn how to be 'ladies' and proper companions?

>>2456231
Since I have no desire for a girlfriend right now, she'd have to be absurdly perfect. Hot, low-maintenance, likes anime, manga, and video games, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't like going to clubs, does whatever I want to do most if not all of the time. So basically impossible.

>>2456487
Btw, I've always wondered, which Misaki-chan is your waifu? There are so many-- off the top of my head, Misaki from Welcome to the NHK, Misaki from Blood Alone, Misa from Death Note, and a few others I can't think of atm.

>>2456484
I lol'ed. Which "goals" have you accomplished, just out of curiosity?

>>2456502

maids, that's the ticket

feminism killed femininity

Does anyone here wish to be normal sometimes? Just so that you can talk to people in public, reveal your true self, and not risk being driven from the room?

I would really like to be able to bleach all this psychological baggage out of my mind and just be normal. Fuck gutter sluts and brag to my friends. Have beers and call them brewskis.

In this forum saying this will probably get me jumped.

>>2456488
Yo. Since the love birds here keep bringing it up

>>2456402
>>2456482
Theres something wrong with the two of you

>>2456516
>Misa from death note
How exactly is that Misaki to you? And I think the Misaki stuff is from NHK, but I could be wrong.

>>2456364
>In reality no one could possibly meet such lofty expectations.

I dunno, my brother's wife is awesome

>>2456519
I love the things I'm interested in, so no. If "normal" people can't comprehend what I'm into, fuck them.

>>2456547
You're a waifu? SUGOI

>>2456516
>>2456529
Yep, NHK Misaki (not the manga version).

>>2456519
>Be stabbed in the gutter and be mocked by my friends. Have beers and get pissed on while I'm unconscious.

In this forum saying this will probably get me jumped.

I'm really looking for someone who I can just be with. I want to be able to have long periods of silence with mutual understanding.

I want to be able to have sudden spontaneous bursts of conversation that isn't forced.

Someone to just be with and hold.

>>2456516
Kept myself entertained, formulated a consistent personal philosophy and ideals, ostracized myself from society, and established a semi-permanent NEET lifestyle.

Still planning the part where I stage revolution, overturn all of the world governments, and begin a eugenic genocide of all those who believe in the supernatural or are below the top 5% in intelligence.

>>2456519
This is 4chan! Get out, you un-virgin!

>>2456231
Not fat or ugly (average looking is fine) and likes me. That's all, but the latter part is probably asking for too much.

>>2456519
I can honestly say no. I've been able to blend in with the normal crowd in the past but I stopped even trying because I couldn't stand it.

I wonder if Hitler ever wished he was normal...

>>2456594
>and begin a eugenic genocide of all those who believe in the supernatural or are below the top 5% in intelligence.
So your ultimate goal is suicide, then?

>>2456599
But Hitler was really popular.

>>2456594
what's your IQ?

>>2456602
I could bump it up to the top 0.5% and I'd still be safe. 0.05% would probably be suicidal, though.

>>2456594
There's no accurate way to measure intelligence.

>>2456607
IQ is bullshit.

>>2456613
I'm aware. Inventing the method is part of the process.

>>2456607
The average IQ of 4chan measured a year ago was 137.

>>2456605
That thought struck me when I read that eugenicist's comment and found myself agreeing.

But still, Hitler's popularity was the result of debilitating psychological problems. He could only get sexually aroused when giving speeches about eradicating people. Crap like that. There's no way that he ever felt completely at ease.

>>2456620
And how the hell did someone measure that?

I'm in the top 1 percentile, and you people don't strike me as particularly smart.

>>2456639
with rocks

>>2456642

>>2456576
The best.

>>2456642
This isn't the place to be smart, but once in a while you will notice deep and profound discussion. I'm in the top 0.2% but I don't act like that all the time.

>>2456519

Depends. If the choice were to be intelligent minus all of the emotional baggage, then yes, I would take the trade hands down.

If the trade-off, however, were to give up my intelligence then I'd have to decline. In spite of all my faults, I feel like there's still something I can accomplish-- something I can contribute to the world that will remain long after my death as my legacy. It's something I've been turning over in my head as of late; so many things have happened recently that have caused me to reevaluate the priorities in my life, primarily revolving around failing out of school, quitting WoW after a two and a half-year long pvp career, and realizing that I have no real friends and that I've generally fucked up a lot of my life due to my selfish hedonism.

I'm trying to fix things and in doing so, I'm attempting to answer a lot of hard questions for myself which, up until now, I've generally ignored through my escapism. In particular, I'm worried about what I'm gonna do to fill the sixty-something years of life ahead of me; and I can tell you right now only a small fraction of it will be spent adoring my waifu.

If I were stoic, I could write all this off as "es muss sein" and go on with my life, which at this point, seems to be the proper way to handle things. If I were completely fickle, I could live a life of complete distraction and only do enough at work to get by and maintain my lifestyle. I guess I'm too wishy-washy for either which is causing all these problems in the first place.

meh

>>2456642
Then again, my friend just proudly told me that his IQ was 110, and he seems to me as dumb as a bag of bricks. I don't have the heart to break it to him...

Eye'm in the top ⑨%

>>2456660
0.2% seems like a pretty arbitrary number. Is there any reason why you picked it?

>>2456666
100 to 110 is pretty stupid by our standards

>>2456671
That's what the internet IQ test told me.

>>2456671
143 IQ

So when you fags aren't doing power level shit you're doing epenis IQ comparisons? Shove it up your ass, none of us will ever get the chance to actually apply our intelligence.

>>2456682

cool internet IQ test there broski

>>2456694
Professionally tested a year ago.

>>2456664
>If the choice were to be intelligent minus all of the emotional baggage...
I am fairly certain this is impossible. The emotional baggage is, at least in part, a direct result of your intelligence. This is probably part of the reason why we have the saying "Ignorance is bliss," though I'm sure many other things contributed.

>If the trade-off, however, were to give up my intelligence then I'd have to decline.
That's a good decision. Just look at all of the people who don't have to deal with the burdens of intelligence and you will understand that they have their own burdens, both greater and more difficult to escape.

>... something I can contribute to the world that will remain long after my death as my legacy ...
I'm afraid I'll have to disagree here, though. Leaving behind a legacy is just as much of a waste of time as dying silently with nothing to your name, isn't it? Hell, leaving behind a legacy is even worse, as having a goal to meet will only make your failures even more painful, and you won't be around to care once you're gone.

>... so many things have happened recently that have caused me to reevaluate the priorities in my life ...
I only barely managed to graduate after nearly failing several times, and that's only due to the assistance of several people. It's a long story, but... I can certainly say I would be no less satisfied with my life had I failed. And friends? I lack them because I reject the idea of friendship with those I find too painfully inferior. I wouldn't say I'm selfish, though... If anything, I have, on occasion, been *selfless* in bringing harm to myself out of hatred for things which don't really inconvenience me.

>...I'm worried about what I'm gonna do to fill the sixty-something years of life ahead of me...
You could always join up with me and walk the path to genocide! I can't guarantee we won't end up serving life in prison, though.

>I guess I'm too wishy-washy for either which is causing all these problems in the first place.
I agree. You can't do anything if you can't decide what it is you want to do. At the very least, you have to throw yourself into the thick of things to help you figure it out.

>>2456761
>>2456766

coooooool story, bro

>>2456664
Blegh, why do you want to leave something behind? This world is going to suck just as much and look exactly as meaningless to every subsequent generation. You won't change anything significant.

Unless, of course, we figure out some way to bring about the singularity or armed uprising revolution whatever. But judging by how much we hate people in general, we probably also would hate each other to the point of being unable to cooperate.

Enjoy no return on your investment.

>>2456682
IQ isn't a bad estimation, but it's still only an estimation.

>>2456687
If you'd pay some attention, you'd realize we're also having discussion.

>>2456761
>>2456766

Thanks Dr. Phil, I feel so much better! ^_^;

>>2456784
Enjoy refreshing time.

>>2456784
>But judging by how much we hate people in general, we probably also would hate each other to the point of being unable to cooperate.
That's not true. While we would certainly have our disagreements, we are not nearly as different from each other as from people in general, so some cooperation wouldn't be out of the question. Probably.

itt normalfags who want to make something of themselves

brotip: IQ doesn't matter when you live in your mom's basement

>>2456761

>I'm afraid I'll have to disagree here, though. Leaving behind a legacy is just as much of a waste of time as dying silently with nothing to your name, isn't it? Hell, leaving behind a legacy is even worse, as having a goal to meet will only make your failures even more painful, and you won't be around to care once you're gone.

I had this weird dream where everyone who frequented 4chan at any period in their lives got together, pooled their resources and built a bloody huge granite pyramid. Complete with pictographs and statues commemorating the history of the site. It ended up surviving 4chan, the internet, and humanity itself, still standing alone after the other ruins are long gone.
It was a good dream.

God fucking damn it... I just realized that we're who the goths and emos wish they were.

I'm going to wal mart tomorrow to buy a beer bong and some condoms or whatever it is normal people do.

>>2456804
Do you feel mad because you can't figure out how to read my posts?

>>2456813

Does it feel bad to get trolled? I hope it does, I want to see you writhe in pain.

>>2456811
The dream was more satisfying than the reality would be because your dream consciousness continued even after you had supposedly died, though. Probably.

>>2456812
>God fucking damn it... I just realized that we're who the goths and emos wish they were.
Don't let the poseurs bother you, bro, or...

>I'm going to wal mart tomorrow to buy a beer bong and some condoms or whatever it is normal people do.
...you'll end up doing something you'll regret.

>>2456811
Seems kind of pointless to me.

>>2456829
It was a joke, bro. A joke.

Aspie.

>>2456829
>something you'll regret.

Like what, having fun? Dear god, someone wants to leave his mom's basement and experience life, he must be a Benedict Arnold. /jp/'s brolife is the best life

>>2456833
>Like what, having fun?
No, living a shitty life of nothing but pain and stress.

>Dear god, someone wants to leave his mom's basement and experience life, he must be a Benedict Arnold. /jp/'s brolife is the best life
I'm glad you understand.

>>2456830
As an aside, how many of you have asburgers?

I do not, since I have a sense of humor. Still socially retarded, since I hate how selfish and ridiculous everyone is, feel awful in social situations. People competing when there's nothing worth competing over. Usual stuff.

Probably have the same disability an asperger's kid though, just a different root cause (which I don't know)

OP is mean ;_;

>>2456766
>>2456761

Interesting. I wasn't expecting a serious response, just a sarcastic remark and I would have been on my way. But since you were kind enough to reply, I'll oblige you with responses of my own.

I'm pretty much the black sheep of my family. My older sister is finishing her PhD at Harvard in physical chemistry. She is easily the most intelligent and responsible person I know and has spent a great deal of time raising me and my younger sister, mostly due to some unusual circumstances involving my dad taking extended "business trips" out of the country which we later found out was a three-decade long affair with some whore. My younger sister is graduating this year from NYU and is extremely witty and charismatic, practically the opposite of my older sister, and by virtue of that she is able to navigate any social situation she finds herself in and can say things in front of a crowd of people I would never even dream of saying.

Needless to say, its almost biologically imperative for me to graduate from college at a minimum, if only to say that I didn't waste all that money fucking around doing nothing. You're right about it probably not being satisfying though-- my crazy schizophrenic uncle (who I'm pretty sure is a pedo just like me) that lives with my grandmother and covers the walls with soap because he's morbidly afraid of germs graduated from college and look where that got him. :<

I guess what I mean to say with this whole legacy bullshit is that sometime when I'm older, I want to be able to look back at my life and come to the conclusion that it was worth it. I can't articulate exactly what that thing will be, but I'm pretty sure that once I start doing it, I'll know it.

Either that or I die a ronery man, dick in hand, fapping tirelessly to Touhou doujinshi even in death.

ass burgers does not exist, you're just a moron.

>>2456876

Give me your onee-san's phone number.

>>2456879
Asperger's is just a description of an emergent phenomenon in certain minds. It describes several traits that are often grouped. So you're right, it doesn't exist, except that someone says it does. And you're a moron for not understanding that.

When I care enough to pretend to be one of them, I sample the life of a normal human.
It's boring. Painfully boring and pointless. They just go around like headless chickens, searching for ways to numb themselves and make their lives mean something, even if it's the short rush of chemicals in their brains.

In the end, people are people. They stick into their groups, find something they enjoy, and get together to lash out on things they hate. Animals, the lot of you.
I'm burdened with awareness. How I wish I could stop analyzing everything and just fap to a waifu, or go out and have awkward sex with a drunken girl.
Curse this clarity. But so is life. I might not be able to affect how you humans behave, but I can change my own perception. Life is as good as I make it to be.

>>2456865

I'm diagnosed with it, but I don't exactly feel sick. More often I feel "normal" people are acting extremely erratic and senselessly, seemlingly unaware a whole lot of things they do are nonsensical or even harmful to themselves.

Somehow I have a feeling that's a pretty common world view around /jp/.

>>2456889

Are you a masochist, or just dumb enough to get trolled numerous times? Further proof that IQ does not translate into intelligence.

The result of capitalism is expansion and development with only profit in mind. Read: tricking people for their money. Surely there are nice side effects too, but what we really need is a society of people who may live happily doing whatever they want because they get the basic stuff to live for free.

Problem here might be the driving force in people to keep striving for something. If there's no a minority devoting themselves to research then we wont "advance", but humanity is quite pointless anyway. Also, people have a desire to be useful to someone usually, so I wouldn't worry about that.

Anyway, I want stuff for free.

>>2456876
>Either that or I die a ronery man, dick in hand, fapping tirelessly to Touhou doujinshi even in death.

This, would be a good death.

>>2456897
Yeah.

Mystic Eyes of Idiocy Perception.

>>2456519

I thought of it a few times. You know, going to loud places, drinking, chasing after women, and generally acting like people my age are supposed to act. But I realized that I would never really enjoy it. So it wasn't worth it.

I do make effort to shed my psychological problems, such as my crippling shyness and tendence to overthinking everything, bit by bit, though. Improving myself is a way of life for me, and rewarding enough by itself. However, my concept of "improvement" might not necessarily... coincide with the "normal" one. As, I assume, is likely to happen with most people in this thread?

>>2456876
I wonder though, what is it that makes you irresponsible? Could you be like your older sister if you wanted to be?

This is much the problem I'm faced with. Family of fucking wunderkinds, I'm the smartest of the bunch yet I've achieved nothing, even the things I want really bad.

>>2456928
The Royal Tenenbaums

>>2456865
I've never been diagnosed with it, though some people have suggested it as a possibility. I very much doubt it, though.

>>2456876
>Interesting. [...]
Even though I'm an introvert, I'm also a conversationalist, so I'd never pass up this opportunity.

>I'm pretty much the black sheep of my family. [...]
That's natural. Females are naturally more suited to social situations and the like than males, so intelligent females suffer less from the associated social withdrawal, irresponsibility, etc. They're also even rarer, though... but anyway.

>Needless to say, its almost biologically imperative for me to graduate from college at a minimum...
Yeah, it's very difficult for normalfriends to understand people like us, so it's very common for social pressure to be applied to the end of some arbitrarily defined "success" in which we couldn't be less interested. If you give into social pressure, though, you'll just end up unhappy. I'm not a gambler, but I'd bet on that.

>>2456884

Sorry my onee-sama is married, and to a white guy no less. He's an alright guy, about as interesting as white bread on the surface but imbued with a sense of humor very much like John Cleese-- completely deadpan in his delivery and layered in wit and irony. I suppose that's the only kind of humor engineers are capable of having, seeing as how they're all functional autistics anyway.

>>2456896
I avoid the type of thoughts you're having. It's easy for a man to be solipsistic, but it's hard to justify such a philosophy rationally. What I mean is that there is no way to prove your perspective is superior to another person's perspective since who's to say that people live lives as dull as you claim? Everyone finds ways to be unhappy and its incumbent upon us and us alone to find a way to be happy in this world. No matter how bad you think your life is, generally speaking, there is someone in the world who has a worse one but due to their perspective of things, it does not seem as hopeless.

Anyways, I think if you honestly believe that other people have lives that are not worth living, you need to take a step back and see just how hard you are projecting on other people.

>...I want to be able to look back at my life and come to the conclusion that it was worth it. [...]
Of course, but the thing is that you can't let anyone else define what "worth it" means for you. Hell, most normal people die with nothing but regrets and fear, so it's obviously stupid to give them a say in this kind of thing. For me, it seems that pursuit of my ideal is the best thing. If I die along the way, I'll at least be happy with whatever small success I had up to that point. If I succeed in some of my main goals... well, what could be better? Of course, an ideal world will never exist, but at least I'd have paved the way for a better one. Even if my death meant the end of the whole thing, I'd be able to think, in my final moments, "I came further than anyone said I could. I achieved more than anyone thought possible."

>Either that or I die a ronery man, dick in hand, fapping tirelessly to Touhou doujinshi even in death.
And to be honest, that wouldn't be too bad, either. At least you would have enjoyed yourself until then.

You all sound like athens, which is pretty pathetic.

>>2456960
Where is that rascal, anyway? And all my other favorite tripfriends

>>2456952
so, if she's married to a "white guy" and that's out of the oridinary, what are you?

>>2456980
A nigger!

I just had a thought... the underachieving extremely smart guy might be an evolutionary strategy.

In a tribal society, he's going to be the one who is always extremely clear, who remembers where to get food, and can think of military strategy. With very few ambitions of his own, and with his social unawareness making him trustworthy, he isn't a threat to the alpha. He will just be kept around for his talents, and therefore has at least incidental access to the village women.

What do you think?

>>2456896
How deep! There's one problem, though! You failed to recognize that there's a difference between grouping together out of fear and grouping together out of appreciation for each other.

No matter how much the normalfriends may laugh and smile, they are together because they hold nothing but fear toward everything else around them. No matter how much the intellectuals may bicker, they are together because they appreciate the company.

>>2456897
>>2456914
Yeah, most of us here at /jp/ feel like this.

>>2456899
A lot of us feel like this. That's why I suggest eugenic genocide. Kill all of the stupid people and we won't have as many interruptions when we're trying to do smart stuff. Like that "LOL I TROLL YOU XDDD" kid posting everywhere.

>>2456925
There's no such thing as overthinking.

>>2456928
Mystic Eyes of Idiocy Perception also allow you to avoid futile efforts. You probably realize, deep down, that you're happier like this than you would be if you were more like them.

>>2456952
Perspective, in that sense, is an excuse. Even if they see purpose in their actions, they do nothing but suffer. Death to them is every bit as good as freedom and election is to the political prisoner.

>>2457008
I don't believe that many different traits can coincide simply due to biological factors. I could be wrong, though, so any confirmation on this would be helpful.

>>2456951

I don't think they're rarer per se-- at my university about 60% of the student body is female so I'm pretty sure its not an issue of gender. I think, more than anything, females are better at suppressing their power levels. Most normal intelligent females, like my younger sister, can hide her intelligence extremely well, and its probably for this reason that's she's sometimes able to get away with murder around strangers. This is not to say that she doesn't prefer being around intelligent people, just that she can hide it well enough to relate with anyone.

>>2456928
The reason why I'm irresponsible-- hrm, tough question. My younger sister and I share some escapist tendencies though mine are much more severe than hers and at a moment's notice she can rebound from her depressive periods whereas I dwell much deeper and longer in them. I could blame it all on my bipolar diagnosis, but I know that's pretty much bullshit so I won't.

I think what keeps me so unproductive is really the lack of a social life. Its so hard and painful doing productive things when you cannot relate to anyone you work with, and its rather disheartening to know that your best efforts in life won't be rewarded with a loli or some kind of sexual incentive.

Eh, I'm probably still not being honest. I know its not laziness since I'm one of the hardest workers at my part time job. I think, honestly, that it all boils down to expectations. My expectations have been set extraordinarily high due to my heritage and whatnot and unfortunately, my circumstances have set a limit on what I can accomplish. In trying to reconcile the two, I reach an impasse where I wonder whether I should persist in doing the "right" thing by studying, endlessly carrying my burden up a hill only to have it roll back down again like Sisyphus, or if I should just give up and spend more time fapping to my waifu. I hope that answered your question.

Pic related, yes I got trolled thank you very much.

>>2456952
Of course I can acknowledge humans as being happy. It's the patterns that haunt me. Once you get to listen to them, and I mean really listen to them, it's the same stories over and over. Mix and match a couple common problems, and you can see the patterns, repeating themselves, boring you to tears.

And then they thank me for being such a good listener and giving them sound advice. Funny how my instinct to fit in kicks in when needed.

Sorry if it strikes you as far too much, but to see them devote their lives to mindlessly indulging on pleasures, chasing them to the very end; it troubles me.

I, as well, dedicate my life towards academic enjoyment. To learn, get my PhD and contribute back to humanity. But I know why I do it. Same archetype as many, the desire to be part of something greater, to leave a mark, while neglecting lesser indulgences.
Now you see what I mean with awareness? It makes me slow as well, since everything goes through a conscious process instead of reacting like you people do.

But enough of my ranting, I grow tired and so do you. Have a psych appointment this week to deal with my empathy problem, that should sort something out.

>>2457008
Biologically, no, that doesn't really work.

Socially, an underachiever is not very useful, by definition.

In practice, we find that such people are not especially trustworthy, either.

>>2456980
We're Chinese so its not unusual for her to marry a white guy. I suppose it bothers me because I know I wouldn't be able to get a white girl, even if I tried.

>>2456994
I lol'ed.

>>2457030
>...at my university about 60% of the student body is female...
Which backs up my claim, I think, as those who are more intelligent are less likely to put up with university.

>The reason why I'm irresponsible...
Yes, it's a waste of time, because productivity is a false concept. Part of you realizes this, but you're trapped between pressures. If you continue to do as you are expected, you can temporarily relieve the external, social pressures while intensifying the internal pressures. If you retreat and do as you know to be more satisfying, those around you will not hold back.

The only way to escape from a terribly flawed society but still meet the social needs of all human beings... Well, you have to take out the trash.

>>2457018
heh, I do. I mean, smart people tend to have a lot of kids with autism. Reference silicon valley. Maybe the milder form, aspergers (at least according to current theory) is that very thing. I mean, I'm just as sure of this as you are of that, so this is really the terminus of this discussion as far as I can see.

>>2457013
Hey now, eugenics is one thing, but don't go around killing the dumbasses. I mean, have you ever met a Downs Syndrome kid? They're fucking awesome! Happy all the time. I like to hang out with them sometimes, just because it's like, nothing's ever wrong. They wave at the pissed off truck drivers, all smiling and crap... Doesn't give a shit that they're late for work, or have an abusive drunk spouse, and will never have to think about that kind of BS all his life. Endless happy days.

As for the dumbasses who make people miserable, freeze them. Bring them out when we get the technology to put people into digital worlds. Then let them push on the world around them however they see fit, turn it into whatever they want. Not like a pleasure paradise, but a world in which if they want to be happy, they can. If they want to get drunk and get into fights etc... they can do that too. I'd say that's just the debt we owe for taking their world from them.

A lot of stuff to read through, but all I gotta say is that college is sorta the place where everyone is nice and you can just walk up to any old person and start talking. And you do have something in common with that person: you're both trying to get through life, school and trying to reach whatever crazy goals you have. You're both people.

Not like that stuff personally interests me though, but just throwing it out there for those in here who personally desire social contact (or want more social contact). Young people don't need to fear anything.

Polite sage.

>>2457068
>>2456979
And there's one of them!

What have you been up to lately, ZUN!bar?

>>2457042
Either you're stupid enough to play a shitty part or you really are the kind of human who cannot have a purpose. Either way, I think you should put yourself to rest.

>>2457045
Of course not. They're the ones who have don't have enough social connection to prevent them from being dishonest.

>>2457066
>heh, I do. [...]
Looking back, I heard something recently which suggested that Autism Spectrum Disorders are basically a sort of spectrum of extreme maleness--that is, an autistic person is different from the average male in basically the same way that the average male is different from the average female, just to a greater extreme. This was also said to be a possible explanation for males being so much more likely to have the disorders than females.

>eugenics
I'll consider the first part, but I couldn't forgive myself if I made the normalfriends continue living such painful lives!

>>2457068
I desire more social contact with people who don't have goals which involve such useless establishments. For me, going to college to meet people sounds about the same as going to a bar to meet people--I don't want to talk to hard-working normals any more than I want to talk to drunkards.

>>2457062
I disagree, I think intelligence and personality must be considered as independent factors when determining if one will be successful at a University and really, I believe its the latter not the former that's a better indicator of whether or not you will drop out or succeed in college.

My older sister is, by most standards, a genius. She's not Stephen fucking Hawking, but she has reasoning and analytical skills that far surpass even the vast majority of her peers. To give you an example of her spatial reasoning abilities, she can solve a Rubik's cube behind her back within a few minutes. If she looks at the Rubik's cube while trying to solve it, her speed does not increase by much. Simply put, she can "see" the Rubik's cube in her mind almost as clearly as if she were looking directly at it just by studying the sides for a minute before attempting to solve it.

Anyways, to your point that intelligent people stay way from universities, I believe there is much empirical evidence to the contrary. As for my point, I think that her success in academia is largely due to her hard work and single-minded persistence when trying to solve problems. I think if I were more responsible and stoic, I would encounter much more success in a school environment. But I'm not so I have to make do.

>>2457048
god damnit, am I the only cracker with these types of problems?

>>2456209
Moot is pretty solid proof of that, I think...

>>2456664
You just HAD to use that picture, didn't you?
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT.

>>2457123
>I think intelligence and personality must be considered as independent factors
I think it's ridiculous to consider them as independent factors. Intelligence is one of the things which is most significant in shaping your personality.

>My older sister is, by most standards, a genius.
She's also female, which makes her very different from males to begin with.

>I believe there is much empirical evidence to the contrary.
I've never seen any of it, but I'd very much like to be corrected if I am mistaken.

You have two kinds of smart people: those that only have their intelligence, and those that have their intelligence and were lucky enough to be normalized be it through luck, being raised properly, or just being less ugly and not enough of a brainiac to draw hatred.

Those with just their intelligence can be total social retards or have the social mores down pat but be uncomfortable when it comes to relationships or find socializing to be mostly worthless. The social retard will have a hell of a time in life unless they're just brilliant enough to make up the slack elsewhere in their lives, and the person who's more or less voluntarily unsociable will just need to dive head first into the world to not effectively regress and turn into a social retard.

>>2457114
>college
>hard-working
What?

>>2457154
I disagree. It's not that cut and dried.

polite sage.

>>2457175
They manage to not drop out even when they have hangovers. Sounds pretty hard-working to me.

>>2457178

Of course. I just think it's a fair point to make that there's the truly socially inept and those that are just so down on themselves that they truly feel that way despite not being much worse off at being sociable than the average person. I doubt /jp/ has any true social retards, just those who have temporarily given up the ghost and become misanthropes.

>>2457152
Nice. Troll detected.

>>2457154
Yea, I'm pretty much the intelligent dude who's not a social retard but is socially withdrawn nonetheless. Most people you meet on a day-to-day basis are extremely boring and its times like this that I really miss my WoW friends-- they were at least as fucked up and intelligent as I was.

I think one of the greatest barriers to entry in the normal world, however, is when conversation invariably leads to sex and who is hot or not. I am forced to lie time and again and it pretty much puts distance between myself and any potential new friends. If I had a dollar for every time I wanted to punch someone when they asked why I don't have a girlfriend, grrrr...

>>2457114
>hard-working normals

I don't know a single one of those from school, but I AM at a community college.
Meet smokers. People actively destroying their bodies often have surprisingly interesting conversations.

Granted, there will always be one or five idiots who will want to regale you of their last "night out," but if you're a smoker like me, you're there having a cigarette anyway, so you might as well just nod your head every time they pause and you're golden, maybe a laugh at the end (because idiots always laugh at their own jokes, they'll usually tip you off by laughing first, just follow suit).

To me, it's worth a few nimrods to have a good conversation outside of /jp/, since my interests go beyond its scope.

sage

this thread sucks because I don't want to read through all this. next time type less, convenience over quality.

>>2457190
>Troll detected.
Fuck off.

Rude sage.

>>2457196
You sure?

You're missing out!

>>2457190

The only topic I don't do is sports. I don't give a fuck about sports beyond catching the occasional Mets game on TV, so surely enough any segue to the topic leads to me looking like a limp-wrist for not knowing the day's opening pitcher. Oh well.

>>2457203

I can't even enjoy watching sports on "occasion."

Speaking of which. When they had that big soccer shit going on last year on TV, people who I knew that never showed any interest sports would suddenly be like "lol brb soccer." I don't fucking know, it just pisses me off.

>>2457218

I think you know that the average person will just go with the flow, a blessing more so than a curse for them

>>2457184
I'm kinda in that category, since I communicate and socialize without problem.
However, something akin to a superiority complex keeps me from socializing with the majority of the peons that I meet; I socialize at the smoking areas because in if you go there, and you naturally see familiar faces day after day.
I'm solidly misanthropic, and I don't feel any need or pressure to change that. Hell, I can't even think of a circumstance that could.

>>2457218
Were you angry at the Olympics too?

>>2457227
Uh...
>there, THEN....not and

>>2457196
I was thinking the same thing, fucking walls of text in this thread

>>2457224
>I think you know that the average person will just go with the flow, a blessing more so than a curse for them
Except for the whole thing where result is that they re-elect corrupt politicians and send their children off to die in pointless wars. Death is the only way to dispel such a curse.

>>2457227
Maybe you wouldn't meet up with such "peons" if you weren't stupid enough to do the same idiotic shit they do, ne?

Eheheheh... sorry, but being called a troll really ticked me off. It's nothing personal.

>>2457243
/jp/ - Writing/Essays

>>2457245

Their only choices are politicians, they're getting corruption one way or the other

>>2457190
Are you gay or something dude?

I have been asked that so many fucking times. It's not like I don't like them talking about who they fucked last night, but that shit's almost like a test, so they can make sure that there aren't any faggots in their midst. I have lost so many friends because I didn't ogle at the nasty girl with the huge misshapen tits. Or, when my conversations with girls were not thin pretenses to fuck them. They can't fucking comprehend that I don't have a desire to fit into those fucking roles, and they are so preoccupied with it that it's almost all they fucking think about.

I could go for a nice, small-breasted girl my age, but it's not a constant preoccupation, especially since I'm primarily a nijikon. And I think if they knew that it'd be just as bad as being gay in their eyes.

Like being in that movie Idiocracy...

>>2457253
>Their only choices are politicians
Are you stupid? If you have a shitty system, kill everyone involved in it and make a new one.

>>2457191

I think this is why I like to distinguish between intelligence and awareness. Being intelligent does not mean that you're completely aware of yourself (though some deluded people may believe otherwise) but I definitely believe that intelligence is a prerequisite for reaching that level of awareness.

If you're a completely introverted misanthrope, you're not aware of the world and its workings. If you toil and toil through each day and meet dissatisfaction at the end of it, you're not aware of yourself. If you're mostly cynical intermixed with high idealism, grow the fuck up.

Having walked down different paths of awareness, I've realized that no matter what stage of life you're in, you're gonna have problems that are inescapable and so life is just a matter of finding ways to deal with said problems. Increasing your awareness can only take you so far-- it may render some problems moot and thus inadvertently solve them but it will invariably present new ones with with you'll have to deal. Thus, at the end of the day, there's really no point to being elitist since I wouldn't wish what I saw and felt on anyone else and granting people a higher level of awareness wouldn't fix anyone's problems, just change the form that those problems take.

Rambling aside, I think the reason why Remilia is my waifu is because he's a less intimidating and more fuckable version of my older sister. See >>2456472 and replace mom with onee-sama.

>>2457257

lolno

>>2457245
>troll
Wha...? I didn't.

Regarding the peons, well, you do have a bit if a point, I may simply travel in nimrod circles. However, I'm not sure the varied life I've lived should fall so completely inside "nimrod" territory itself; meaning, I don't think it's a problem on my end because I've not ONCE experienced a moron-free environment.

Also, regarding college and intelligence, I would have to say I've met way too many dimwits with degrees to believe that "intelligent" people would be the majority; or, more simply, "educated != intelligent". But this is, of course, anecdotal. As is everything I say.

>>2457267
>If you're mostly cynical intermixed with high idealism, grow the fuck up.
Maturity is just another word for conformity. I do what is necessary to get something better than shit and I don't run away from the harshness of reality by denying myself.

The ones who are truly immature are those who still, just like naive little children, listen to the suggestions of their superiors and "friends" as if they are the words of God.

>>2457269
So you're stupid. Thanks for clearing that up. I'll try to make sure I don't skip you.

>>2457269
The US's Founding Fathers suggested that exact situation: if shit's fucked, it's our right and responsibility to tear it down and start again.

>>2457280
No, that's why I said it isn't personal. I'm just venting my frustration on you, so don't worry about it. You may be a great guy, but I'm a bit blind to that right now.

>>2457245

Yea sorry my bad. I really thought you were trying to troll me since I typed up an entire paragraph explaining about how my sister is a textbook genius only to have you claim that there was no factual basis behind intelligent people attending universities. I guess you were being sincere.

Seriously though, dabble a bit in high-end physics or mathematics. Just pick up an issue of Nature and its incredible just to see the gap between what I'm capable of doing and what those guys are doing. I think its humbling moments like that that keep me from going down the path of self-pity time and again, realizing that really, I'm only above average in intelligence and at the end of the day, it doesn't mean a damn thing unless I produce something that helps other people.

Which brings me back to my original point about creating a legacy.

>>2457283

Cue "some people are simply alive" shirt man

>>2457267
That's weird. I primarily avoid 2D characters who remind me of anyone in real life, other than, possibly, friends I had in my past, maybe one teacher I can think of. Then again, I have... adversarial... relations with most of my family members.

Pic related... mai waifu if I had one.

>>2457286

What a shame then that the system isn't far enough down that path to neither warrant it or get any support for it beyond a bunch of dumbfucks in Texas

>>2457283


>those who still, just like naive little children, listen to the suggestions of their superiors and "friends" as if they are the words of God.

Conformity has been the root and stem of human civilization since their ancestors were breaking mammoth skulls open in caves millions of years ago.
You are hopelessly naive to think that this could ever be changed, as naive as those who think that everlasting peace could be brought upon us and an end made for war.

I myself do not like the societal pressures and values that friends/colleagues/authorities bring upon me.
It doesn't feel right, and I prefer to follow my own moral compass rather than be locked into a predetermined path set out for me by 'friends' or 'society' in general.
However, I long came to grips with the fact that I was merely being a contrary little bitch, and that cynical idealism, refusing to conform, all these things were merely emotional immaturity showing itself.

>>2457288
There are people who are too stupid for university and there are people who are too smart for university. You're mistaking the people at the upper end of the middle for the people at the top. It's a common mistake, so don't worry about it.

>>2457295
Not far enough down that path? How many innocents have to suffer for you to open your fucking eyes?

>>2457303

I'll see it when I believe it!

>>2457298
Indeed, being contrarian is really no different from being a conformist and I feel like recognizing the reasoning behind both and not falling prey to such fallacious logic is crucial to maturing.

>>2457298
this thread has gone from earnest and honest discussion to mindless intellectualism. smart people replaced by wannabe smart people.

PHILOSOPHY IS POINTLESS.

>>2457309

You should not merely float through life, letting experiences and people dictate which course you take.

Nor should you forever deny and forsake commonly accepted values.

>>2457267
>I wouldn't wish what I saw and felt on anyone else
Why?
I'd gladly be on the other side, simply because experience, particularly pain and hardship, teach you more about yourself than anything.

I believe perception is a matter of understanding that bad experiences are often more useful than good ones.
Pleasure makes you soft, but pain makes you hard. The trick to it is balance-- Pain is at least as valuable as pleasure, from a learning standpoint. Therefore it's foolish to try and avoid it.

>>2457298
>You are hopelessly naive to think that this could ever be changed
Everything can be changed. Nothing is set in stone. History has not been made by those who follow customs, but by those who take an opportunity when it arises and destroy everything in their path.

Most of the things people call "impossible" are not beyond us. In fact, the impossibility is usually in something else entirely--once it starts, no one can stop it.

>However, I long came to grips with the fact that I was merely being a contrary little bitch, and that cynical idealism, refusing to conform, all these things were merely emotional immaturity showing itself.
"I used to think like you," then?

Maybe you did, maybe you did not. I can't say I know. However, I can say that you should stop excusing yourself by pretending that everyone else will fall into the trap just like you did.


People are too quick to give up and fall into what outside forces attempt to force upon them. Friends, family, authority, society, reality... These things are not to be obeyed.

>>2457309
True, however: you can use the contrarian idea to play devil's advocate and actually induce people to think about what they're doing from more than their own perspective.
This is more valuable than gold, inducing others to think.

>>2457331

Maybe you should get a name or trip so you can be a respected member of the community, much like myself !

>>2457331

>Everything can be changed.

Can you bring someone back from death?

Can you reverse the processes of cellular mitosis?

Can you reverse gravity?

Can you change lead into gold?

Can you stop a glacier from moving with your bare hands?

Can you cause an earthquake by stamping on the ground?

Not everything can be changed. Much as it might bother your idealism and naivete, there are some things in life that cannot be changed. And for those who have taken the opportunities you mentioned, I might remind you that they, too, soon met their failures and now nothing remains of their changes except for some words in a book.

>>2457342
Now? no. in the future? Your guess is as good as mine; I prefer to remain optimistic on scientific discovery.

The fallacious logic is in deciding that things cannot be changed.

The only way to prevent change is to establish a balance between forces. What, then, can balance a force applied to the nature of an entire species? If evolution mutates all living things, what is it which would make living things immutable by our power? There is no such thing.

Change is possible. Change is inevitable. Everything has been moving forward since the very beginning.

Only fools would say such a mindless thing as "You are hopelessly naive to think that this could ever be changed."

>>2457342
The system will return to chaos eventually.
Nothing will remain of any of us, someday; famous, infamous, or obscure.

>>2457342

This is not to say that I blindly accept the societal memes and archetypes forced upon you by humanity at large.
I do not bend to outward forces so easily, but I have realized that I am very much in the minority, and that as long as I hold onto these ideals I will remain unable to function in public society.

This is why I lead a hermetic existence.
I am not socially retarded, I fully recognize and can play into the needed roles that society asks of me, but I also realize that this is not me, and that I am being controlled as surely as though there were puppet strings on my limbs.

Naivete is not always a bad thing. The problem is that there are not enough people like >>2457331 out there.

>>2457371
>as though there were puppet strings on my limbs
Why? More importantly, how?

>>2457342
I bet you also believe in God.

God of the gaps, I say.

Your argument is from ignorance and nothing more. "I cannot do it." Sure, you can't. And why? Because you don't know how.

Maybe you should think a little. If you did, you'd soon figure out that there are many things you can do.

I will remind you that people used to not be able to lift huge rocks. Since then, rocks have become nothing more than materials for us to move and arrange as we please for whatever purpose we may desire.

>>2457337
I lol'ed

Anyways, I'm ending my postan for the night here. I apologize once again to the anon whom I called a troll-- I honestly believed you were trolling me since your responses seemed non sequitur to mine. Again, its nothing personal, I get really defensive when I talk about personal shit on the interbutts and am willing to call a troll out as soon as I [think I] see one just to ferret them out and keep the thread fertile for discussion.

I gotta say though, /jp/'s a rather impressive community compared to /a/ and /b/, at least in terms of intellectual capacity. Once you get past the cute little girls wearing silly hats, you'll find that a great deal of people here have something substantial to say and whether or not they word it precisely is, of course, the most fun part about being on the internet. It was an enjoyable discussion for the most part and I'm ending it with a polite sage.

Good night.

>>2457378

You are trying to compare centuries of technological advances with a single human being's effort, whose lifespan reaches into maybe seven decades if you're lucky.

And you call my argument one of ignorance? The more fool you are, to call your own one of knowledge. There are indeed many things I can do, but there is a finiteness to my own power and no matter how I try, I cannot exceed that.

God is an imaginary friend for insecure, immature adults and a byword for those who wish to make war upon their neighbors. You show yourself to be twice as stupid to convict me of religion so quickly.

>>2457389
I'm glad you had fun.

Goodnight!

Just as a general reminder, none of what I say about stupidity or idiocy or whatever should be taken personally. I get a bit too passionate sometimes and say things which are not to be paid too much mind.

Hell, it's probably bad for my health. I build myself into a migraine and nausea a bit too frequently...

Anyway...

>>2457371
That's our key difference, then.

Let's say we both died. Upon death, we were met with something not unlike what a child might imagine as heaven. For whatever reason, God has come to personally administer His judgment.

It seems to me that, upon the appearance of the Lord, you would, whether you had believed in Him or not before, fall into place as a true believer.

I, on the other hand, fancy that I would take my chance to assassinate Him.

>>2457393
>finiteness to my power

True, however-- Mankind's greatest strength (and ironically, our bane) is society; if one man can't do it, then two, then three, then four. We have millenia of knowledge at our fingertips now because of this; we've gone beyond simply being a living society--Even the dead assist us, in the form of records and left-behind knowledge

>>2457400
>whether you had believed in Him or not before, fall into place as a true believer

But, once certainty sets in, faith fails. There are no "true believers". God doesn't want true believers anyway, he wants the faithful (at least, in the Christian sects)

>>2457400

I would wish you the best of luck of your endeavour.

However, I am firmly convinced that there is nothing after death.
Your brain shuts down, and you see your relatives briefly because of the loads of hallucinogens that the brain pumps into itself upon sensing that death is imminent.
If such a thing WERE to occur, I would remain convinced that I am not dead and that I am merely experiencing religious hallucinations. Therefore I would do exactly what I always do when hallucinating - calm down and explore the situation further.
Perhaps I would question this faceless being. Ask him why I must go to HIS Place and not somewhere else, or why he chose to lay his eye upon me. Either way, I would not pay him any great mind.

>>2457410

>- Mankind's greatest strength (and ironically, our bane) is society

Precisely my point. Society is an extremely difficult thing to turn to one's advantage, and positively deadly when it is one's enemy. Better men and women than ourselves spend untold millions trying to get the masses to think the way THEY want them to, and they are only partially successful.

>>2457393
>You are trying to compare centuries of technological advances with a single human being's effort, whose lifespan reaches into maybe seven decades if you're lucky.
No, I am fully aware that the most likely conclusion to the story of my misadventures would be a most ignoble death. I just think I'd be more satisfied with that than dying quietly without at least trying. We never know until we try, after all.

>And you call my argument one of ignorance? The more fool you are, to call your own one of knowledge.
It is one born from the joining of knowledge and passion--it is purely neither.

>There are indeed many things I can do, but there is a finiteness to my own power and no matter how I try, I cannot exceed that.
I would not argue that you can exceed it. Again, I don't think myself all that capable, either--I would have to be well beyond simply the most able man alive in every category to do half the things I would like to do, and I don't even believe myself the most able in a single one. Still, as foolish as it may seem, it's more satisfying to speak of grand dreams than to hold my tongue, and I hope to one day find that reaching out for them is the most satisfying thing of all.

>God is an imaginary friend for insecure, immature adults and a byword for those who wish to make war upon their neighbors.
I only quoted this because it seemed more thorough that way. I don't think I need to say that I agree.

>You show yourself to be twice as stupid to convict me of religion so quickly.
It was a shallow insult more than an accusation. I would not accuse someone of belief if there was a chance that belief would be proudly held.

>>2457420
>Society is an extremely difficult thing to turn to one's advantage

INdeed, it's often a matter of opportunity.
Unfortunately, I fail to see why this is relevant. You don't need to convince all of mankind to help you do something beyond your own abilities.

>>2457416
Not really. Certainty is not possible. "Don't believe what you see" and all of that. But we're really just getting into semantics here.

>>2457410
I have two people who have said they'd join me in my insane quest. I don't believe them, of course, but it's nice to think they really would.

>>2457420
For your response to me... It wasn't meant to be taken literally. You know this. I'm just trying to make the point that I'm stupid enough to try what should be impossible.

>Better men and women than ourselves
I'll believe it when I get some evidence. Even if I don't believe myself to be the best, that doesn't make me any less quick to doubt any claims of superiority.

>spend untold millions
Money! Money is useless. If I thought money could do it for me, I wouldn't be a NEET.

>trying to get the masses to think the way THEY want them to
Unlike the failures of the past, I don't believe in useful idiots. If they are idiots, they are harmful. Even should they claim to agree with me, they should be silenced all the same.

>and they are only partially successful.
All of our advancement has been based upon partial success stacked upon partial success. I don't see the problem.

>>2457436
>You don't need to convince all of mankind to help you do something beyond your own abilities.
Very good point. Almost certainly not good enough to see me to victory, but it's a bit comforting, anyway.

So wait, wait wait wait wait.

tl;dr waifus are fantastical and will never be actual
tl;dr the concept of attainable perfection is laughable
tl;dr /jp/ anons believe they are superior to normalfags
tl;dr /jp/ anons have "great plans" for the future
tl;dr mankind is implacable because of that screwy thing called death

Anything I miss?

>>2457458
tl;dr: /jp/ has an uncomfortably high number of lunatics.

Maybe?

Oh, also, I've probably allowed fiction to shape me too much. I find a lot of similarities between myself and UBW Shirou, for example. If I really am just insane, blame Nasu.

>>2457463

A prerequisite for beating any Touhou game on its hardest setting.

>>2457454
Understanding the mind of the Masses is no easy task, but isn't completely unpredictable. Understanding where to strike is much more efficient than recruiting strength to do it the direct way.

>>2457458
> mankind is implacable because of....death

Brain-teaser-- if we somehow conquer death, will we continue to be implacable?

>>2457471
>Brain-teaser-- if we somehow conquer death, will we continue to be implacable?

Probably.