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What.

danmaku are faster than light, that or it's a goddamn game.

Touhou's are not allowed to use their powers in danmaku

Nightmare mode:
If Sakuya can stop time, how the flying fuck can bullets hit her and how do others dodge her bullets?

>>2453614
She can only stop time by using a bomb.

Her bullets require time to move.

>>2453614
Half-answer: Stopped time may be effectively synonymous with inertia ceasing to be, so when time is restored, everything returns to a "zero-energy state", gravity becomes the only force acting on an object and they simply fall. Sakuya would of course be immune to this, and the knife-throwing suggest that when she's no longer touching an object, it remains frozen in space.

The reason they fly at you in the game is because you're actually flying straight up.

>>2453664
>The reason they fly at you in the game is because you're actually flying straight up.

Not only do they come at you from every direction, but some of Sakuya's knives change direction after she throws them.

They definitely do not lose momentum when she stops time.

>>2453614
>white flag

>>2453614

I suppose if you wanted to think it through that much, you could say that Kaguya could only use her moment hax powers as a bomb herself when she's a main character, but lol, Kaguya is too lazy to do anything. Reisen gets more mentions then her masters.

>>2453664
So, If i remain still, Sakuya can't harm me?

>>2453670

(>>2453614 here)
One of Sakuya's spellcards is called Killing Doll, so I guess she might be controlling her knives like string puppets...also, she can control time and SPACE (as she messed with the mansion's size), so she should be able to control the knives, too.

>>2453686
Reisen has masters? I thought it was just her and two other unimportant persons whom I shall not mention.

>>2453587
Insanity mode:
If danmaku doesn't kill anybody why does Moku die?

>>2453748
666 mode:
If yuyuko is a ghost how can danmaku hit her?

>>2453748

Fiery discorporation. Mokou never dies, instead at the instant she's about to be hit, she disperses herself into cinders and reforms them after the "bullet" passes through.

>>2453758

Danmaku are force effects and, thus, can hit incorporeal monsters.

>>2453739
Eirin and Kaguya.


>>2453748
Mokou? She drank some kind of elixir right? Well, it messed with her body and made it extremely frail, allowing even danmaku to kill her. That or she gets killed with REAL bullets whenever she loses, just because everyone knows she's immortal and wouldn't ever give up otherwise.

It's just a bunch of gorgeous girls having fun together

>>2453748
You're presumably not allowed to kill people using danmaku. Since Mokou can't die to begin with, youkai and other powerful people can let their true powerlevels show a bit.

Like how Yuyuko tried her death invitation thing right off the bat.

Zun is drunk. Since when is it expected of drunk people to make sense?

>>2453763
Wat

Oh, kami. I just want Kaguya to dig her foot into my danmaku sack

>>2453748
I hope you are joking because if you played the game you should know this.

>>2453670
Now, *I* over-thought it. You double-thinking it makes my ridiculous idea seem serious.

>>2453705
Not the point I was trying to make at all; hell, I'm not sure how you got that.

>>2453732
>SPACE
I really feel that's a ZUN-style non-power, since it has an incredible amount of leeway in interpretation, but I like to think that her space-manipulating is actually just a complex time-manipulation anyway...

"Can't-think-of-any-more-adjectives-to-denote-the-gravity-of-this-question-mode" mode: If Kaguya never interacted with gensokyo before the fight how does she know danmaku rules enough to play by them and not just use her hax right off the bat?

>>2453766
>or she gets killed with REAL bullets
I jsut got a mental image of someone taking Mokou out to the woods for a gangland style hit.

>>2453792
Yukari might have manipulated a border to announce and enforce the rules. Like how in Gensokyo gravity can be ignored, there could be a "natural law" that conflicts are solved using danmaku.

It's simple: light-speed danmaku.

>If Kaguya can react in femtoseconds

Wait, WHAT?

>>2453804

Yeah, I can't imagine Yukari simply leaving intruders alone without greeting them.

...then again, she sleeps 24/7 so we're most probably wrong.

>>2453814

Femtosecond = 1 millionth of a nanosecond.

>>2453822

That was not the confusing part. Since when is Kaguya Flash?

>>2453814
Probably just some guy assuming that "manipulation of eternity" means that she can do everything instantly.

I tend to assume that most of the vague powers touhou characters are given require activation rituals, preparation time, and/or significant amounts of energy. It makes them less insanely world-breaking.

>>2453832

If it's based on some doujin it's interesting.

I don't think I've ever found out even a semi-official version of what the fuck, in practical terms, Kaguya's power is supposed to DO. Closest I've seen is "like Remilia's but over a longer time period" and that was based on a doujin too I think.

>>2453832
Which she can. You know how physics likes to divide time (amongst other things) to infinitesimal parcels so integrals can be taken over them? dt?

ZUN makes it sound like Kaguya's eternity manipulation involves controlling those.

>>2453832
Yes it means exactly that:

PMiSS
>>The power to manipulate the instant (or rather, extremely short time durations) allows Kaguya to do things almost instantaneously.

>>She possesses the ability to manipulate the eternal and the instantaneous.

>>Her other ability regarding the ephemeral is complementary to her manipulation of eternity, and allows control over extremely short time durations.

>>It allows her to act in periods of time so short as to be imperceptible to human beings.

Instant as defined by moon bitch is:
>>Toyohime: Femto, to put it simply, is the instantaneous.
>>Toyohime: A period of time so short that normal living beings can't even imagine it.

Make your own damn conclusions.

>>2453883
But can she instantly activate her "do stuff instantly" powers, and how long can she keep it up?

PMiSS tends to state the upper limit of characters' powers, without stating the limitations. But that doesn't mean there are no limitations.

>>2453922
>But can she instantly activate her "do stuff instantly" powers

Sounds like it would be a pretty crappy power if she couldn't. What's the use of doing things instantly if you have a half-minute warmup?

I can do things instantly

>>2453934
Well, for one, you might have a whole day's worth of stuff to do.

I haven't played all the Touhou games yet, so I'm not sure, but is this something that actually gets USED, canonically speaking?

Kaguya isn't real.

>>2453993
More real than you will ever be, words on the internet.

>>2453959
Most powers don't get much use, canonically speaking. Though they do act as gimmicks for a few characters' spellcards (e.g. Sakuya timestops and moves across the screen while you're frozen; Mystia blacks out a lot of the screen).

Kaguya uses her power in Imperishable Night to attack the spell that keeps the world nighttime, but that's about it.

>>2453959
She apparently does use it, but that doesn't exactly transfer over to a bullet pattern that somehow relates to it. /shrug.

Though to be more precise than I am in >>2454011, I should say: we don't SEE characters using their powers much, canonically speaking. But who knows, they could be using it in small ways all the time. I get the impression that Sakuya uses her timestop gimmick relatively often.

>>2454015

>/shrug

*punches wall, is 300 lbs*

Jackass.

>>2454031
I only punch the wall so I don't hurt those I love :(