/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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>>24012784
yes because it literally did for me lol. i dont understand the logic behind thinking this wouldnt work or the logic that it would somehow work worse than not doing it and just ignoring everything u dont get.

lrn 2 pause

word of the day
jisho.org/search/effort

uninstall anki & read good shit

wish i would understand my anime as well as gary ben understands his programming books

>>24012806
Watch a lot of it and you'll start recognizing more and more of these puzzle pieces from repetition + visual cues + English subs, while at the same time being able to enjoy what you watched without ruining the pacing.

>>24012868
html+css is easier than anime so dont worry

>>24012850
silence tobira guy

>>24012846
It's less fun.

I'm trying to learn japanese listening and there are some stuffs I always have difficulty telling apart, for example:
た/だ
と/ど
か/が
ち(ゃ/ゅ/ょ)/じ(ゃ/ゅ/ょ)
ょ/ょう
ゅ/ゅう
This makes dictionary lookup quite a guesswork. Any tips?

>>24012925
3 hours on average
>>24012928
what tips do you think could possibly exist other than listen more?

>>24012925
about 10 episodes per day and then read anywhere from 1-4 hours depending on how i feel like

>>24012928
read more

That's it boys, the 10k deck
Also how to make suspended unseen again

like im not even saying you should become some dumbass textbook user, but come on
how will you actually build vocab by consuming what amounts to white noise

>>24013150
gay

>>24013150
>rapidly compounding awesomeness.
how can 3 words anger me this much

>>24013269
nevermind i'm fucking blind there's an option for it

>>24013327
>RTK

>>24013327
https://dict.naver.com/linedict/zhendict/#/cnen/home
it's chink but it's godlike
google translate's works well too tho

all im gonna say is lol @ people who think pausing builds fluency

ur not gonna be understanding much if u keep pausing every sentence lol. sometiems u gotta read thru long ass shit in one go no breaks. ur basically cut off from that lvl until u can learn to control your pausing addiction

>>24013569
extremely based

>>24013564
it's not every sentence dumbass
>sometiems u gotta read thru long ass shit in one go no breaks
i do so love consuming white noise before giving myself asspats

>>24013556
what's it about?

>>24013699
willing to bet it's better than the original which wasn't particularly great

can't believe nu-asa-senpai doesn't have green hair into the trash it goes

>>24013855
>cool or cringe
kill yourself underage

>>24013871
＞全然この作品知らないけど凄く厨二心をそそる

>>24013855
they're good, haven't read a masada vn i've disliked

>>24013892
dies irae is good and you almost outright need it to enjoy kkk

i always talk with abib on irc he unbans me cool guy

>>24013900
just get a vhost dumbass
>>24013908
abib is gay

thought he was talking in latin

wtf is ur problem

>>24013936
fuck u and fuck ur friend

>>24013955
>>24013977
>>24013905
>>24013892
>>24013888
thx for all the replies. looks like this is real eroge gamer hours for today

am i the only one who finds jap grammar pretty easy? as long as i know the vocabulary, it's extremely easy to figure out the meaning of the sentence. what's the bullshit about taking 4 years to learn japanese. all you need to do is learn like 20 words a day for two years and then you've made it.

>>24014086
read

i run the subs in my head when i listen

can i read

>>24014178
yea? thats how it works you cant hear things noob

>>24014249

i do this for games with auto-scrolling prologues i can't read fast enough

remember to eat lots of vns and drink losts of syosetu

wanna clap some chimps before i fucking croak is that 2 much 2 ask

>>24013153
>>24013204
I didn't use the Mr. T stories, I made up my own. In my mind that radical represented the most normiest of normalfags that did a bunch of normie shit

if u did rtk you're an idiot simple as

starting to see why imabi generally isn't recommended for beginners. who writes a sentence like this 一旦社会を離れた女性がブランクを経て再び仕事に就くことはなかなか困難だ in the "baby's first japanese grammar" section?

>>24012891

>>24014420
imagine not reading shit yourself, underages are mentally ill
same "people" that unironically watch others play through a game

>>24014432
ur fucked haha

>>24014438
ya

>>24014473
same guy >>24014086

>>24014458
he could be lookin at this https://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/word/%E5%87%8C%E8%BE%B1/
and wonderin if its #1 or #2

>>24014473
>just a brainlet
definitely this

when did this whole uppercase/lowercase shit start anyway? the only reason i write lowercase is >muh general culture
but it honestly feels fucking retarded.

https://streamable.com/j9xrax

>>24014544
great isnt it
thats about the sweet spot

the only grammar foundation people need is dolly's ha vs ga video
everything else can be looked up in the dictionary

it is generally the case that uppercasers are the worst at japanese and lowercase posters are the best at japanese in these threads

>>24014587
damn this bitch is annoying as fuck want to smash her head against a brick wall

Non-Japanese people cannot learn real Japanese. They can only learn Bing Translate Japanese.

>>24014632
STFU WTF
STOP BEING MEAN TO IMOUTO FGT

also can we all just take a minute to lol at "random hiragana strings"

Imagine believing spoken words can be written down

>>24014624
stay bad uppercaser

>>24014641
>weeks

>>24014587
ok this was good until she starting counting down

>>24014647
てあれいえなうわかれないくださいでしたないじゃるにほんごですばぁばぁ
There, I can also write random fucking shit in hiragana.

caring how someone writes japanese is proof you don't know japanese

>>24014674
the fact that you think imouto posting is "random fucking shit" really seals the deal that You Don't Know Japanese

ok guys the 和 was disturbed enough
time to get this sure back on track

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvA1AHKXUfY

>>24014587
the whole thing is so bad and yet it still gets me horny why

>>24014689
Colleges don't use Tae Kim. They use Genki or Minna no Nihongo, all of which is trash because any sane person knows that it's impossible to speak a language that they weren't surrounded with from childhood onwards

>>24014701
>>24014692
>>24014683
Eee, nandatte? Omae ga kirai na! This is the level of shit that fucking guy posts lmao.

imouto doesnt know how to make her posts any easier and uppercasers still cant deal with it

如果您不打算發布全中文文本，為什麼還要在這裡？

>>24014759
See, this guy gets it. This is how you are supposed to write Japanesee. By throwing this dogshit language to the wayside and writing Chinese instead.

>>24014780
it isnt very funny or worth responding to though id leave the thread too if i could

glad i'm not born japanese i'd suck at english
jsl is the superior path

can anybody read this note left by my girlfriend on the kitchen table yesterday?

>>24014926
yeah, easy to get fluent in. not easy to master and sound native.
the difference is if i'm bad at english i sound like a retard to most of the world. if i'm bad at japanese i just sound like a cool gaijin in japan

>>24015050
no point bro, just came from outside and saw 0 cute girls

>>24015079
fuck you I'm trying, that's why I'm asking here.

>>24015037
post the panel
in general tho don't get hung up for too long on stuff you can't figure out just keep going

>>24015121
might have been me, i didnt even read those posts i just said it

>>24014691
I can't tell if you're taking the piss or not. I'm currently reading Tae Kim and working through 2k, should I just start reading Yotsuba now?

>>24015126
this is literally the first dialogue btw. yeah I'll just skip retarded looking words but aruna looked weird.

>>24015068
thanks bro, i might not make it since i havent exercised in 2 months but normally i do go that far
>>24015087
sabisii....

very important post

>>24015159
no! wait till you have finished all the core decks, so you are ready for yotubato only speaking in kana

>>24014864
no one wants to be japanese, anyone would wish to be raised in japan and have stereotypical foreigner rich anime traveling parents that never show up and live your own japanese school slice of life, though.

>>24015194
>She is commanding the houses to not be a lot around here
maybe yotsubato is too high IQ for me but why would she be exicted about there being few houses? the panel before this was showing a row of houses and the page after she's excited for lots of people so I thought the point was that there are many houses...

>>24015256
you think the feel it out shit is a joke?
if you had watched 10k hours of eng subbed anime you could have felt that なぁぁぁぁ~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeOmc1nRGG4

>>24015290
professor of linguistics, matt

>>24015287
I do have at least 5k hours of eng subbed anime watched over about a decade. don't think 5k more would do anything.

>>24015278
yeah, when I learned that all those clause ending words are just regular ass words I thought it was pretty neat.

>>24015306
were you paying attention or just passively consuming?

>>24015317
well, I was paying attention, but to the story, not to the japanese that was spoken.

>>24015326
dont understand how people do that. bet my brothers know more japanese by default than the people starting out here

wotd: 肥満嗜好

pretty sure i was saying some crippled nihongo sentences to my bros when they were saying this https://youtu.be/cxsrm3hUtsU

>>24015375
dumbass

>>24015375
you do have to get used to the sounds to be able to hear them and when youre watching anime you should be looking things up about 5-7 times per episode

Can someone hook me up with the MIA JLPT N5 Tango deck?

Matt aint replying to my email and I finished RRTK

>>24015451
This post resonates with me one a really deep level. I'd prolly kms if i were to write an Email to Matt that he never replied to.

follow me on pixiv

>>24015555
yeah whatup

i approve r9kesque posts

>>24015555
go back

>>24014443
No. Buzz off.

ever since anime cards have been debunked i've been feeling so violated
like i literally wasted my time (even though they're probably better than nothing)

>>24015842
gey

>>24015850
look on the bright side and rejoice that u wont be wasting your time on that nonsense anymore!

>>24015596
very nice, thanks anon

anybody think that dialogue and acting in 1930s/1940s is a bit same-y?

>>24015950
its theatrical acting

I’m already going to be taking the course next year, but I really just want to start right now. It’s a perfect time for learning new things, so I thought that I should just start now and maybe save myself some grief down the line! What should I start with?

is nnb s2 good? i watched the first season english subbed when it came out but never saw the second

>>24016022
it's the same as season 1, not really a show where the quality can go up or down much lol

>>24016145
>6000 kanji
*50k

>>24016145
honestly he should just learn chinese in preparation for his japanese class

>>24016017
Here's a short guide:

1. Quit that class.

>>24015850
who debunked them

>>24016017
DEFINITELY be that faggot who acts smug about knowing some N5 grammar before everyone else, all your classmates will be in complete aw and the handsome oyaji sensei will definitely fall in love with you for it.

>>24016017
10k eng sub anime

>>24016228
additional reminder that if you're above 30, you are probably physically unable to learn new sounds at this point in your life and you should probably just give up and learn spanish or something.

>>24016228
t. nihongo tsukaitenai guy

>>24016276
not sure

hey

reminder to do as much listening and reading practice as you want to cuz regardless of how much you do youll never really be able to use or understand japanese like a native japanese speaker does
you can do a trillion hours of listening practice and still not understand and laugh at manzai comedians like a nip does

>>24016295
hxh guy* dno where the fuck did that word go

>>24016286
filtered

>>24016276
its not particularly difficult but it is pretty boring in comparison to tove ru and kiss x sis

>find new animu i really really enjoy.
>some jap subs @kittsuneko
>learning/mining becomes a pure joy
>no more subs get uploaded

first gleipnir, now kakushigoto

why is it that only some japsubs get released of a show but not the complete season?

>>24016328
UPDATE KAKUSHIGOTO FUCKING DO IT

>>24016328
gleipnir is on netflix jp i think, so you can probably get subs from there (if you have a vpn and netflix sub, which is worth it desu)

every time i ever tried using fan subs i found mistakes in them so i could never trust them. you're probably fucking yourself up (read: crippling ur nihongo) if you use subs as a learner

>>24016356
speaking of abyss, has tsukishi gotten off his lazy lolicon ass to write recently? last i read was chapter 53

https://youtu.be/yH7ZOnoUVbA?t=226

>>24016328
>why is it that only some japsubs get released of a show but not the complete season?
just post a request thread on the forum, it's like 1-2 guys that upload subs for currently airing shows they probably just forgot. when i made a thread one of them put up the remaining stuff within a day

spoken japanese is easier to understand than spoken english

>>24016467
no i actually understand spoken english very well because it's my first language.

>>24016434
done. now iam really curious.

>read a manga a snails pace
>barely get anything
>watch the anime
>easily parse all the sentences and keep doing just as well when entering parts you didn't read in the manga
why does everyone here always emphasize reading over watching so much for beginners. you can just read along with the jp subs to make sure you aren't missing things and intonation of the voice actors makes the material so much more comprehensible.

i don't i always tell scrubs to watch jp subbed anime

爆乳

>>24016558
you skip alot with animu. while with manga you wrap your head around some grammar concepts and vocabulary much more - also the not so fast paced.

i start the day with reading when concentration is highest and then ease of to anime.

>>24015850
i watched the video and iam not convinced.

People who have listened raw anime and raw japanese shit from day 1 without understanding jack for hours and hours have all improved and are pretty good in understanding japanese now. There's progress videos everywhere, from chris vs japan to britt vs japan and many others. Why the fuck is listening raw shit so bad according to you guys? The more you'll input yourself with japanese the better you'll get. I learned my 2nd language my hearing my family speak it at home 24/7 and I'm native in it. INPUT INPUT INPUT IS ALL THAT MATTERS, AT ONE POINT YOU WILL START UNDERSTANDING STUFF

>>24016646
i think this is from reddit but its true desu

>>24016646
Are you Italian? That's quite a pasta you have there.

>>24016558
you aren't reading along with the subs. the japanese person is reading the subs for you. it's totally different! if you want to get better at reading, then you should read. if you don't care about developing reading fluency then your method is ok

>>24016678
No one is going to fall for your chinese trick

>>24016697
you forget me

>>24016646
tbf the people you listed get a lot of input period. media that is largely incomprehensible will still have parts that are comprehensible.

how do i change my mac address using the registry editor

what if the only content i'm interested in is text based? vinnies, manga and novels
only watch anime once in a blue moon

>>24016710
read along to audiobooks

>>24016705
>>>24016646 (You)
>tbf the people you listed get a lot of input period. media that is largely incomprehensible will still have parts that are comprehensible.
Yea I mean theres always going to be something that's comprehensible, input is all that matters. And reading at the same time

>>24016646
stfu beaner

>>24016710
vinnies are actually the master medium so you in effect get the benefits of jsubbed dialogue (or not subbed cuz u can just look at the characters while they talk and ignore the text) with intermittent solo reading

nhk easy news is only about coronavirus every single day and now that i know all the virus related vocabulary it's boring as fuck. can someone else happen in the world?

>>24016729
my point was more that miaers could be very inefficient but get the job done through sheer autistic willpower. and if you don't have that autistic willpower you should probably stick to more comprehensible stuff.

does the guy that supposedly grew up in japan who posts here actually know japanese?

>>24016614
what did he say in the video though that debunked anime cards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otrffFuIx1c

where were you when the nihongo learning game was changed once again by based matto-dono and his kerai?

>>24016752
Nothing debunked anime cards, only retards do sentence cards

>>24016750
Hard to find stuff that's comprehensible and you like, it's better to get into native material and you'll notice grammatical structures while having fun w the jap

>>24016781
he still constantly reiterates in his q&a's that input is what matters and anki is just an optional supplement you dumb djt cultist.

the addons facilitate getting more input by making anki as efficient as possible

>>24016763
are they actually solving a problem with this thing? i cant see a situation where id ever need any of the features in this thing

>>24016781
nothing weird talking about the thing that he can sell and makes him money rather than what people actually need

sometimes i regret googling a question about japanese and finding a japanese stackexchange answer. pic related.

>>24016792
SHUT DA F UP MATTDRONE

>>24016789
since when does comprehensible input mean non-native. obviously people should do what they enjoy. it's stupid people even argue that. the point is that incomprehensible messes are not fun, more often than not. obviously people will find a balance between comprehensibility and enjoyment.

Can you guys link japanese youtubers ya'll like to watch? I need input reccomendations

>>24016792
lmao im the dumb one but ur watching matt vs japan q&a's. alright buddy

>>24016826
don't watch e-celebs
kill yourself

>>24016797
i wouldn't exactly call it a huge problem but i do sentence cards and every now and then i notice a mistake or that i have a space at the beginning or some shit like that
it's nice not having to open the edit menu while reviewing to fix that stuff
but yeah it's a minor qol change nothing major at all

>>24016820
Do you have any specific stuff I can read or watch that can be comprehensible as a beginner? Doing core 2k rn

>>24016752
basically that you always need the sentence around the word to grasp its proper usage/meaning.

>>24016826
>need input reccomendations
anime
manga
vns
syosetu
das about it

>>24016813
>>24016838
djt cultists make up shit about matt and i DESTROY them once again. heh it's just too ez

>>24016843
chi's sweet home
shirokuma cafe
non non biyori

>>24016849
no you don’t

how much money could they realistically be making from patreon? i cant see it being more than equal to 1 livable wage if that

>>24016893
nah u can disable it, it just says the number of patrons which is 1220

>>24016877
patreon can be pretty damn lucrative if you have a receptive audience
i used to read this guys webcomic in the early 2000s and his patreon was at 20k people a month last i remember

>>24016897
still catches me off guard when i open a video of a real life person talking and understand what theyre saying

>>24016903
that retarded idea is courtesy of matt vs japan
he invented that hoax when he needed to differentiate his brand from ajatt

>>24016894
yea on the backside
if you need sentences to put words in context to learn proper usage then might as well put it on the front

>>24016678
this boomer shit is not acceptable jamal

>>24016900
yea rite u can't even get people into a free chat w/ u

>https://4chanint.fandom.com/wiki/Japanese
>1,000 hours you should be pro at Japanese.
this is delicious

>>24016894
in mia world you must always have the full sentence around the word otherwise you are not fully immersed in mia brainfluid.

>>24016809
wtf does this mean

>>24016897
Thanks daddy

>>24016897
pretty gay list bro

repost cuz i didn't get any (you)'s the last thread:
did u guys notice that MIA rhymes with am i gay lol

>>24016960
i have absolutely no idea

https://youtu.be/mczaGoOc-N0

Hi, I'm 22F and a beginner to AJATT/learning Japanese in general. I'm currently in my second week of doing lazy kanji/RRTK and plan on continuing my studies in Japanese for at least a couple of years. I was hoping to find an accountability buddy so that we could discuss our progress, goals, encourage each other and most importantly check-in on each other to make sure we're doing what we aim to do every couple of days. I'm in the UK if timezones matter for anyone, but I'm usually up at unusual times of the day anyway.

>>24016954
nice

>>24016989
looool

>>24017021
lol

>>24016939
>you just may as well lol
no. there's no reason to do you and you lose the assurance that you'd recognize the word in any circumstance.

>>24017021
赤ちゃん言葉を使うのは子どもの言語能力を高めるのによくありません

>>24017021
Hey, that'd be great! I'm from nyc and I'm an 18M was looking for a buddy too

>>24016951
the absolute state of /int/

>>24017058
nah we posting now

>>24017042
hot take:
u never encounter words without context so being able to recall them without context is useless and not a worthwhile goal

>>24017009
I'm glad I listened to 10,000 hours of unsubbed anime so I can fully hear the nuances in this Japanese lady's voice

>>24017074
ever tried writing/speaking?

>>24016979
gay but awesome. they all talk with moderate speed and show what they talk about in the video.

>>24016954
what game

>>24017086
senren banka

>>24017074
if can recognize a word without context you will recognize it in any context. if you can recognize a word with the exact same sentence you can maybe recognize it with other contexts. to take the hit in assurance you first need to justify that having the context on the front provides some benefit, which you haven't. i swear this is why everyone thinks japanese is hard.

>>24017062
>words i knew within THAT sentence didnt pop up in completely different stenences very well. it fucking sucks.
are you sure you're not just low iq

>>24017009
this is so fucking gross

>>24016954
>furigana on your flash cards

>>24017112
i made a serious iq test with a psychiatrist a few years ago and its 116. so no.

>>24017009
tfw you only understand japs when they are talking about sex

>>24017080
yeah knowing in what context words are generally used in is crucial if you want to sound natural if you don't you might accidently end up writing something like this

>>24017152
lmao

sentence cards are a waste of time.
but single word vocab cards are a pain due to no context.
realize that flash cards are usually not appropriate for learning japanese
but they can work for certain words

I'm okay at following people speaking japanese in anime and IRL, but how come when it comes to music it just sounds like complete gibberish?

>>24017123
what's the issue

>>24017175
the sing strange to sound good. in standard japanese every dictionary form verb ends in a u and every sentence ends in a verb. surely you can see why this wouldn't be conducive for song writing?

>>24017152
the fact that people still post this without finding any other ammo shows just how good quizler really was

>>24017196
uhh aren't anime cards a single word on the front?
how are you supposed to give a checkable answer when most words have multiple meanings?
this is why ive given up on flash cards. everything you need to learn words is there when you read something naturally

>>24017152
i agree. im not in the nihonjin roleplayer camp but i do know it's frustrating when you are writing something and you can't recall a word you want to use. don't think a 4chan post is representative cuz you have all the time in the world to look up things and craft ur post.

the only funny thing about that japanese post by quiz is that it's nothing like his english personality. everything he says is easily understandable so really there's nothing funny about the use of japanese imo

>>24017062
how did it take u 2 years to come to this realization

>>24017294
>everything he says is easily understandable
that's not the point the point is that his use of words is completely unnatural

interesting how people just post the pic without pointing out whats wrong with the text specifically

>>24017313
that's because he's so advanced he played with the language like a master. it was all a toy to him obviously

>>24017313
whatever dude i only read stuff written by japanese people and had no problem understanding his post. if it was unnatural i wouldn't understand it

>>24017332
>if it was unnatural i wouldn't understand it
wtf lol

>>24017332
ever considered that your japanese is too bad to tell what is or isn't unnatural?

>>24017328
it's been discussed to death we have classics like 前に言っておくが or イメージに書いているように for instance

>>24017374
loooool

dont really know what's wrong with sounding unnatural in a language you aren't native in isn't that how it works when you dont have decades of language exposure to help you

>>24017400
except for the fact that the retarded g*rman claims he can "intuit like a native"

>>24017363
>when i read things written by ESL, if they use unnatural language, i have to stop and analyze what they mean because it is otherwise nonsense.
your post is nonsense because if you are proficient in english you will easily understand someone with slightly unnatural word usage without doing any analyzing lol

>>24017407
yeah outputting and inputting are different

>>24017400
there is a certain mental illness that plagues the jp learning community where ppl have a delusion that they can literally become a japanese person and be accepted as one of them. but in order to do that they must perfect their nihongo skills so that their cover isn't blown on the internet and they can infiltrate nihonjin communities

>>24017234
??? any time quiz posted japanese he got shit on he just didn't do it often

i acquired 前に言っておくが because of you fucks

>>24017408
alright i guess im not proficient in english then even though i have no problem communicating with native english speakers and i myself am a native english speaker...
just kidding, you're a fucking idiot trying to force a point that doesn't stand

>>24017427
yeah i guess you're not

i don't want to move over to nip imageboards because of some desire to be japanese, i want to do it because aside from a few underground places some of which i found, everywhere else has political bullshit infesting every discussion

What's the reason behind having random words in katakana? I see it a lot with 俺 and 貴方 but sometimes with other random normally kanji/hiragana words

>>24017441
its like italics

>>24017441
It depends
Post the thing that made you ask that question

>>24017414
nobody here cares about irl japanese people though i think u might be confusing us with reddit for instance

yeah because japanese people are not political... right....
ur a nihonjin roleplayer you just dont realize it

If I eat my lunch in the bathroom stall will I double my MIA gains?

>>24017479
no but if you dont do it you cant call yourself an miaer

>>24017479
Only if its a school bathroom others dont have the same effect

>>24017465
what is the difference between irl and online japanese people rofl

>>24017493
thats not true benjo meshi is benjo meshi no matter your vocation : )

>>24017470
lol, not even gonna bother

I will never be accepted by Japanese people anons, no matter how good I get. They will never view me as one of them

>>24016826

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYTz3uIgwVY3ZU-IQJS8r3A

everyone else in honeystrap is good too, but charlotte has a lot of longer streams that are easy to listen to

>>24017509
irl as in 3d idiot

>>24017533
i feel that

>>24017463
It's was more just a general question but I just ran into another instance ホントはタヌキの神社のはずなのに. Italics-like makes sense, so it's generally just putting more emphasis on the words?

>>24017408
ok please read this and just know that if any part requires conscious analysis to fully understand you are a fucking retard and not proficient in english

>>24017538
still wasting time on this guy's bait?

>>24017538
you sound like a schizophrenic
a japanese person online is a "3d" japanese person sitting at a computer

>>24017547
think you misquoted bro

>>24017547
i attached this. fix your shit hiromoot

>>24017533
oh no the bug people with a robotic bug culture will never accept me as one of them

whatever shall i do

>>24017533
great now that u realize this u can learn nihongo for real welcome to the club

>>24017550
epic

if japanese people will never respect me how do i keep the upper hand by making sure they know ill never respect them ?

>>24017550
meatspace!=cyberspace

>>24017533
>tfw u'll never be really japanese and thus never be expected to conform to their cultural norms
feels good actually

is this some projection or does this idiot think anons want to be the become the jap?

>>24017581
only use tameguchi, never adjusting your manner of speech to cultural expectations, and never using honorifics

>>24017614
https://streamable.com/f43ix

god there really is no saving these threads is there

if any of you have an avistaz account u should log in to get your 1500 bonus points while you still can, also everythings freeleach

i don't know how people honestly think jamal doesn't know japanese when he's the only one capable of writing such well crafted lines like that

shut the fuck up Nigger

>>24017677
yeah there isn't you should leave now

>>24017687
dude i aint gonna throw trash on the ground and ill take my shoes off if your floor looks nice enough for warrant it
but if a dude tells me his name is tanakatakahiro im just gonna call him taka or taco or w/e

was gonna try and stretch somethin with 性 but i dont know japanese so that was a big hurdle

>>24017789
youre supposed to read the tyan like you would in english
thats what i was thinkin when i wrote it

cyoxtuto

>>24017812
its just tyotto wtf is ur problem

chotto is for white people and tyotto is for diverse people

still remember when ppl used to type tan

>>24017788
lmfao

>>24017849
what is your fucking problem

jamal does he have good taste in japanese rap?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6iMPGT_LC4&t=2041

i dont know why jamal is mad at my post and i feel left out

Where do you niggers usually get your raw VNs

>>24017869
>koh
yeah this guy can stfu already
but soul scream is nice https://youtu.be/KWVNWDRlpXA

>>24017882
theres a bunch of mega links on itazura
otherwise nyaa
otherwise googlefu for shitty ddl
otherwise give up

can't listen to people when they start listing what entertainment they like. who gives a shit lol

I've seen a bunch of screenshots of people measuring the number of words they've read. Where is that from?

>>24017904
I knew about nyaa and itazura but the shit I want isn't seeded. Guess it's time to look at russian torrent sites.

>>24017909
dunno but its more than me

no one tell him. we don't need more character count faggots posting here

>>24017906
some times people have nothing to talk about
also they might want to be your friends and find similar interests

>>24017882
my private trackers

>>24017915
Not at all what I want to do. Just trying to keep track of my progress or lack thereof.

>>24017909
dno idc bout em

>>24017909
warosu.org/jp
Knock yourself out.

>>24012784
its a lot more likely that someone whos been learning for a while already can understand maybe 300 out of 400 sentences said in a show. those 100 sentences they dont understand cause the watcher to go 'wtf is going on?' for a significant chunk of the show. you're sayin someone like that is better off not knowing what was said for 1/4 of the entire show instead of just slowing down and figuring out wtf was going on? how is that logical at all?
>>24012903
or fun?

>>24017911
if youre going to google it helps to add the release date like 031226 cuz a lot of releases have that and stores and blog posts dont

anyone hooked ikabey before? doesn't seem to be working with textractor

>>24013327
>>24013368
iphone with chinese handwriting keyboard

jisho's handwriting feature doesn't suck, you do. also radical search is much faster

>>24018013
Is there a list of manga by difficulty anywhere? I just finished yotsuba and could get through that okay.

just acquired 師走

>>24013687
just because the new words are written on the screen and being spoken doesnt mean you'll instantly know them wtf? especially not at full speed stop BSing yourself and others

>>24017968
depends on the ratio. if understanding an additional 1/3rd more comes at the cost of 2-3x the time, that doesnt seem worth it from a learning or from an enjoyability perspective. especially because well crafted shows obviously have deliberate pacing, and you remove an entire aspect of filmmaking by pausing constantly.

>>24018024
no

>>24013880
>i'm convinced the average person here isn't even trying to learn japanese and just comes here to sabotage newbies.
正解

i agree with him. if it's "white noise" then it's too high above your level. pausing to look everything up might let you understand it after the fact. but you can't process that much new information at one time and hope to retain it. this is the idea of i+1. something slightly above your current level

>>24018043
Oh. Alright. Guess I'll just kill myself then thanks anyway.

>>24018050
i really do hope that "white noise" is being used exaggeratedly in that post because if not then the person really isn't using their time productively.

>>24018026
Happy Super Cinderella day fellow diabetus anon

you all need to shut the fuck up while im trying to read its actually super disrespectful and distracting

are you reading some loli book

>>24018043
Hey I found it fuck you asshole. Can't believe someone would just go on the internet and tell lies.

https://djtguide.neocities.org/reading%20list.html

>>24018088
well i didnt know it existed cuz these faggoty lists are of no use to me

>>24017869
whoa dogen talking about how people obsessively learn japanese as an escape from their shitty lives hits too close to home.

japanese saved my life

same but at the same time it destroyed it in a way

>惡の華
dindt get shit nano desu

what should i cook for dinner bros? no fancy shit because im a poorfag

gonna set up a seedbox for my brethren

>>24018164
Go home coco

>>24018156
spag bog

>>24018156
dno bro eat rice or something

>>24018156
full course of manga with a side of anime

>>24018171
I have no idea who that is, nor do I want to know. You faggots all just sit around not learning Japanese.

Go learn Japanese.

>>24018108
same
i could live normal life but instead i was born with autism towards japan

>>24018219
thats right only an idiot would "learn" japanese

>>24017909
check the animecards site and the part about html pages and mining from vns

anyone ever just stop posting for an hour and take in how bad this thread is

>>24018219
im acquiring many words today so stfu

>>24018252
Thanks, anon!

>>24018260
how would you make this thread better besides removing uppercase posters

>>24018260
djt peaked in 2016

>>24018308
ive never used irc do u think u could set up a site with a flash client that automatically connects to the right server for me

>flash

>>24018308
great news i finally got irc running on my terminal which doesn't support japanese

join the quiz discord and read our vns of the month

>>24018361
whats the vn of next month

>>24018342
Image hashes of those pictures, which would lead to finding a discussion which would provide a link. Get fucked, bitch.

>>24018375
a pretty bad one but its easy its called inochi no spare (for june not may btw)

>>24018260
yea i punish myself and feel like shit for being here

>>24018384
that wouldnt work though also can you go back to /a/ now

>>24018403
Except it would, retard. Once again, get fucked.

>>24018384
this is a really low iq post

>>24018417
wrong also how long have you been touring here like a week? when does your /jp/ visa expire we will throw a party for you

>>24018417
it wouldn't you'd type in that hash and would just find the same post you got the hash from lol

>>24018445
Certainly longer than you have. You seem very unnerved by my presence. I wonder why?

wish i had some hash

i took a few days off and forgot about tobira guy

sasuga *ppercasers

startin to get pissed off at all the uppercasers today

>>24018456
do you know japanese already

>>24018501
"Knowing" Japanese is a journey. I still have exercises from textbooks to work on, unlike the retards ITT who just spam "CONSOOM" over and over.

i want to see tobira guys worksheets

>>24018529
tobira-kun...

>>24018554
Afraid you have me confused with this braindead lazy thread's boogeyman. Is it any surprise that no one here knows Japanese? You hate studying, and apparently you lack any thinking faculties as well.

>>24018529
lmfao ofc it was our programmer tobira guy

just imagining tobira kun scrawling 「メアリーさん　は　元気　です　か」 in big red crayon

>>24018594
See >>24018592 and shut the fuck up.

lol what is there to study just read a book lmfao what is wrong with you. trying to get a degree in nihongo studies to work at starbucks or something?

>>24018618
can u just plz accept the name weve christened u and put it in the name field

ah yes this is the causitive passive form of a suru verb and the subject of the sentence is here and it's all being modified by this particle now all i need to do i get out the dictionary and translate this all into english so i can maybe understand it on the surface level. thank god i spent all that time reading genki unlike those guys who were "reading" instead

>>24018632
Lazy faggots like yourself can pretend all you want, but you will never know Japanese.
>>24018645
Not your boogeyman, sorry.

>>24018684
there may have been prior tobira guys which were not you
but in this moment
you specifically
are now tobira guy
please use the name

>>24018705
Imagine thinking creating a handle for someone who encourages study over mindless consumption is somehow derisive. Sad.

>>24018739
Your posts don't even make sense anymore, to the surprise of no one.

>>24018679
>study causative passive Suru
>see it while reading
>oh hey that’s that thing I studied
>see it a second time and immediately recognize it
>acquired

>don’t study
>hey what is that it makes no sense
>hey what is that it makes no sense
>three times later
>oh now I get it

the choice is yours

>>24018749
taking it a bit far dont you think

>>24018776
oh sorry. i suppose actually you’d actually take 300 views to get it

>>24018776
why not option 3
>see something while reading a few times and not sure about it
>get curious and google it
>some japanese blogpost has a really clear explanation that builds on the loose gut feeling you had
>never forget it

>>24018801
cuz he's too scared to learn anything outside of a textbook so he doesn't think it's possible, even though that's how most of us here learned japanese

after browsing this place for weeks I am convinced japanese only has a reputation for being difficult due to the fact that none of it’s learners seem able to comprehend anything but a flanderized, character of their favorite language learning theory with absolutely none of the subtlety of the original creator’s work.

>>24018825
wrong it's statistically proven that japanese is the hardest language for native english speakers

matt's editing tool is pretty nifty desu

congrats you spent a week wasting your time just to make a retarded post pat yourself on the back

>>24018825
caricature*

mia boys winning again

>>24018825
flandre （´・ω・｀）

>>24018801
that also works. i was just speaking about people who vehemently hate any form of formal learning. you should still learn the basics before you start reading though

>>24014441
shut da FUCK up

lgttbot

>>24017009
なんて素晴らしいpost

>>24018831
can i see these tests. i want to see their methods

>>24018776
forget it the next day anyways, then forget it a week later, then a month later, but keep re-aquiring it till finally one day you can really remember it but still takes a few seconds and you need it down to 0.2 seconds for it to be optimal, and you still cant really 'feel it', and still cant hardly hear it half the time
thats more of what it will be like, knowing and not knowing is complicated, ur brain needs time to grow language

does anyone remember which video it was that matto forgot the word "sexism"

>>24018948
google fsi language difficulty. also keep in mind that any criticism you have of the method is irrelevant if you can't explain why the method would lead to japanese being considered more difficult than the other languages. for example if the method is not conducive to learning languages period, that affects all languages. it would not explain why japanese is ranked as being more difficult.

>>24017009

>>24018984
hm that's interesting. i though that all of the language in the final group were supposed to be equal.
>for example if the method is not conducive to learning languages period, that affects all languages. it would not explain why japanese is ranked as being more difficult.
that's definitely true. i won't try to argue with you there.

whats the closest thing to imabi but in japanese
not the shit on itazura

>>24019041
a dictionary

>>24017009
lmfao

>>24018978
it was a patreon q&a from jan this year where he was talking about why his pokemon video has so many views

>>24019090
>but the 100 sentences you don't understand are each much more valuable than the 300 you do
classic beginner mistake

>>24018978
>>24019098
https://youtu.be/kyVaIZlGxc8?t=4281

>>24018973
SRS trumps all of that

what the fuck i think my mouse is broken, this is bullshit

>>24019090
>but the 100 sentences you don't understand are each much more valuable than the 300 you do
yeah this is where you're wasting a ton of time.

>>24019107
thanks. good stuff.

>>24019090
language acquisition only happens from hearing the same shit a million times at some point you're just going to understand everything and you still won't really know japanese because you didn't understand it subconsciously the way you do with your native language

>>24019106
>>24019132
the 100 things you ignored are still going to be incomprehensible to you the next 20 times you let them blow past you will not magically absorb them

>>24019111
yea bc u get so good at hearing and feeling them through srs

>>24019160
>at some point you're just going to understand everything
no. its already been proven incomprehensible input doesnt do shit

>>24019183
when did i say anything about incomprehensible input?

read tobira bros its good

>>24019187
>but the 100 sentences you don't understand are each much more valuable than the 300 you do. you not knowing them yet means you'll make the most significant improvement by learning them
you suggested the 100 things you didn't comprehend will magically become comprehensible somehow and thats fake unless the timescale we're using is decades

>>24019200
no.

>>24019107
can you post the last q and a? he had a good question in it i wanted to see his response

>>24019161
you'll learn bits of those 100 things in true "i+1" input which will come together to make those things genuinely learnable at a normal pace if you were to rewatch the show or encounter similar things in a different show. you want to be watching shows that have enough content that are just enough outside your level to be able to learn it easily. spending an hour watching a 20 minute anime episode is not making that input comprehensible.

i dont think you should never pause, but i see people talking about taking 2-3x the amount of time to watch one episode and that's just wasting people's time.

>>24019214
no i got that from yiff.party and yiff is about to remove content from channels like matt's so RIP

>>24019210
you’re loss

>>24019201
the point im making is that saying that the comprehensible stuff is less important is retarded because in order to actually acquire a language you need to repeatedly listen to things you already understand not sure how you got all this other shit

Learnt about the MIA method, but thinking its a bit too time consuming, would the AJATT method be better for someone like me with only a couple hours a day and no time to meditatiate and do full imersion approach?

mia is literally the same thing but better

>>24019245
wtf is wrong with u lol

>>24019161
shits not black and white
the the shit that you sort of understood gradually becomes easier and with that the things that were incomprehensible start to become sort of understandable
and the shit that you think is useless because you understand it is important cuz you get a feel for nuance which also makes you better at using context to sort of understand some stuff on the edge

the ideal sentence surprises you while still being perfectly comprehensible and not requiring any extra time
thats not going to happen often and i dont think you shouldnt look shit up (especially when it helps your enjoyment)
but dont stray too far from that ideal trying to analyze all of the shit that youre just not ready for

>>24019235
i didn't say its not important at all obviously you need to keep reinforcing i just said its less important than the things you don't know at all as far as increasing how much of the language you can understand how is that not obvious

no time to do full immersion so ill just do the "all japanese all the time" approach instead because im an uppercaser with a brain made of うにペースト

>>24019245
mia is ajatt but with more flexible hours so you're retarded

>>24019217
>yiff is about to remove content from channels like matt's
these fucking furries are going to take away my dogen what the fuck

>>24019245
ur method is 30 min anki + immerse wherever you can every day. no need to pick a tribe

>>24019263
because it's a misunderstanding of how language acquisition works it's a holistic thing not a pick and choose you either know the language or you don't which is why a japanese person learning a new word is not the same thing as a beginner learner learning a new word

ひくれたし

たそたそかれの

えのきたけ

>>24019215
how could it be a waste of time when you're learning hundreds of new words per show that way that would otherwise just be incomprehensible noise? even if its i+1 that doesn't guarantee you'll fully process it or even remember it at all after that first half-second encounter with a word for the first time. that doesn't even happen in your native language

>>24019285
how long have you been studying japanese? audio still being nothing but "incomprehensible noise" tells me it hasn't been for very long

>>24019262
>the the shit that you sort of understood gradually becomes easier and with that the things that were incomprehensible start to become sort of understandable
after a much longer time period than it would've taken to just pause and look up the damn word
>don't take an extra 20 minutes to learn all the words you don't know in an episode. just take an extra 200 minutes of repeated incomprehensible encounters over time instead!

these pause happy autistics act like they remember every word they look up

nibbas in this thread really think they can get away with learning japanese without having to listen/read for thousands of hours and see the same shit a million times anyway lmfao

>>24019321
i'm not that anon. but a sentence can become incomprehensible at even 1 or 2 words you don't understand. and to predict what those 1 or 2 might mean will take at least a few seconds of consideration. which you don't have if you're still letting more input flood in like a waterhose.