/jp/ - Otaku Culture

decided to ignore anki today and guess what
holy shit you cant imagine the amount of media i was able to feel
havent felt so good in a long time
fuck anki im uninstalling this shit

>>23831740
ｇood choice mate

>>23831740
>holy shit you cant imagine the amount of media i was able to feel
i literally cant imagine actually. 5 more minutes of immersion than normal? 30? 2 hours?

>>23831740
whats it called when you make a pretty minor change to your life that gives you a boost that you think is going to last for the rest of time but it really only lasts for a week at most

>>23831783
its about priming

話が見えないのですが

>>23831621
kai is not a counter for sures my friend

>>23832327
where would i begin to respond to this

love u guys

>deleted subs2srs deck yesterday.
>feeling good with anki today
>noticed i blew my 360+days streak on bunpro.

Studied 159 cards in 28 minutes today (10.6s/card)
Again count: 40 (74.8% correct)
Learn: 18, Review: 106, Relearn: 35, Filtered: 0
No mature cards were studied today.

all in all i feel ok.

major banger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gap-zS1VBKo

>>23832327
then what would be correct? 前のスレ？

前回 is to be read after 第2424話

ダンベル

かいがいうけいいの？

たいしておもしろくはなかったよね

>>23832493
前回 lol

>>23832647
まあまあかな

but there are a lot of pics on pixiv

>>23832775
シャミ子がつよすぎたんだよ

>>23832493
5ch uses 前スレ

i'm angry
angry about isekaifaggots

>>23832327
what the fuck did he mean by this buddies

>>23833894
post it then, pussy

>>23833942
PUSSY

>>23833917
https://ttbj.cegloc.tsukuba.ac.jp/index.html
it's a shit assessment test, but its free which is the best type of aids to get.

i can't help but burst out laughing whenever i hear someone say ダセェ, among other variations, it's just so funny

さっき

刺身についてなんだけど

にほんじんは国外でさしみはたべないよ

>>23833406
not too bad i guess

today marks 2 weeks into this deck

how much better would my life be without jav ruining my dopamine

>>23834676
>I think I might be retarded
you are but not because u arent able to process japanese speech. you need thousands of hours of exposure to japanese speech to be able to understand it. think about how you learned your native language lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE1lzqJCeJ0
>we'll always be together, however far it seems
>we'll always together, together in electric dreams
my djt theme song

>>23834676
10万hours of eng subbed anime in your pre teens

generally dont read the synopsis before downloading anything

>>23834783
you gotta kill yourself for uppercasing first

>>23834783
ive been watching anime with japanese subtitles for the past year and a half and i can understand very simple stuff like mitsuboshi colors and digimon raw now. some people claim just going raw the entire time is the way to go, other say u should supplement whatever u are doing (jp subbed anime, reading vns/manga) with listening like podcasts and shit. idk whats the best personally im just doing what i feel like day by day.
>>23834798
also this

>>23834783

to be fair u have to put in a solid 3 minutes of thought to understand how language acquisition works and that's 3 minutes to many for an uppercaser

i just understand it bros

finna watch batman ninja today

>>23834783
honestly what do you expect to happen lol
just read some grammar points then understand everything?

dolly once again demonstrating a complete lack of understanding of how language acquisition works. as much contempt as i have for people who copy tae kim into anki at least that's still kind of getting comprehensible input. grammar drills are a complete waste of time

>>23835482
hate to live in an uppercaser's world

>>23834018
gave it a shot
don't feel like i did well for a couple questions i noticed i ticked the wrong thing before it advanced to the next one
4 seconds is very little time for low iq like me

>>23835615
cant believe i read that, this guy sounds like a complete fucking idiot

hello minna san!
namawe anon kun!
daijobu desu ka?

>>23835703

someone subscribe to my patreon, ill send you pic of my dick every weekend with different doujin open in the background

the matto's paradox that is you tell your viewers they need to go emerse more but that doesn't make you any money

waitu doggy kore wa?

quiz's score he's a god

>>23835943
whats 0 times a million?

cant believe qm quit nihongo

wtf bros i thought qm was reigning over us measly peasants with his 900 iq and high potential

knew he couldn't keep away
welcome back bb

>>23835501
really useless comparison, i can't understand anything in english songs like this and i'm a native english speaker

>>23835482
Damn, there's legit videos of people who have learned through input and immersion. I don't know wtf to do anymore lol. Some people say it HAS to be comprehensible others say it doesn't. Should I follow mia but with anime cards instead? For fucks sake does input have to be comprehensible?

>>23836032
yes it has to be comprehensible

djt cultists be like youre going against the word of krashen

>>23836063
holy shit is this real? lol

>>23836032
>For fucks sake does input have to be comprehensible?
absolutely
though you don't have to comprehend everything perfectly to make progress
don't get hung up on shit you can't figure out

>>23836108
deep dive

>>23836108
memorize the dictionary or else you might come across a sentence you don't understand and it won't count

>>23836123
After you said memorize the dictionary i couldnt take you seriously lmaooaooaoao

whats the cutoff for permanent cripple status is it 10 years

microwaved some sausage and bacon for breakfast today

>>23836140
He is the master at over thinking all of the wrong things.

why did he say "it's not た"
when like four of the example words have た

>>23836188
yeah perfect cut work on that one

is there a less useful skill than handwriting

you could be a japanese professional researcher in japan researching japanese linguistics and it still wouldn't matter lol

40 minutes until the new terraria update drops

Yk what im dead just gnna full on immerse and get as much input while finishing my core deck and then reading my ass off. Fuck those who are saying input has to be comprehensible. There's nothing wrong with getting input while trying to acquire a language. Even if its not comprehensible it'll get to that at one point. Why do people who go to japan get way better at the language? Cause they get input a shit ton. Fuck sentence cards i feel like quiz is right on that idea

>>23836340
I can't stand her voice lol, is she better than tae kim? I feel like she makes stuff complicated for no reason but i only watched a bit

>>23836385
There's a ton of ajatters who have gotten fluent at the language and can speak very very well. Its really hard to refute the idea lol

>>23836373
how good is your natural grammar intuition and how much english grammar do you know about (formally, not just from knowing how to speak it)? i never got taught wtf a conjugation even is or what "passive voice" is or any of that growing up. i did genki 1 in college 5-6 years ago, read through tae kim when i started learning again 2~ months ago, and after watching the 40 or so cure dolly videos i actually understand the structure of a japanese sentence intuitively now when before it was a struggle. i maybe could have eventually reached this understanding with struggling through more input but i think it provides a good shortcut.

also just turn on the subtitles or read along with the transcript or something. i've watched weird shit on the internet too long to be bothered by dolly's voice changer shenanigans or w/e

>>23836412
mfw

>>23836484
uhhh fella?

>>23836514
acquisition absolutely starts with conscious effort. you intellectually parse the language structure enough times to get to the point where you acquire it subconsciously. otherwise you could just play japanese audio you know nothing about for 12 hours a day and magically learn the language.

i think don't think dolly goes much beyond teaching fundamental, she covers less material than tae kim. unless you're talking about her general language learning advice which is just trash, you have to stick to her videos that are explicitly grammar

>>23836578
fair enough, "adult second language acquisition". babies obviously don't do the same shit.

>>23835951
this post >>23836638

https://youtu.be/K4EEwwWxcw8
yeah im in love bros

>>23836701
well sure, but "intellectualizing" the difference between は and が can mean spending hours reading academic linguistic papers and theories about language evolution, or it can mean like 3 15 minute cure dolly videos. i agree with what you're saying, but in the grand scheme of how much time learning a language takes it's just not that much.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLg9uYxuZf8x_A-vcqqyOFZu06WlhnypWj

this whole playlist is 16 hours and i think it gets a little boring after about half way through. you need thousands of hours of comprehensible input anyway, 8 hours isn't that big of a diversion. a lot of people spend a lot of time watching anime and never really understand the difference は and が when it comes to output, seems like a reasonable shortcut to me. i also think some people just enjoy learning *about* a language in addition to acquiring it. that's why weirdos who get good enough start going into pitch accent shit, they just need an outlet for more pedagogy

>>23836846
>even matt says he has to frustratingly convert everything in his head back and forth to english bc of the damage he did.. rtk on day 1 lol
can you elaborate on that?

jamal why dont u do the test lmao

>>23836861
shut the fuck up quiz stop trying to challenge jamal he's owned you numerous times that's enough

>>23836877
so what is this natural way of learning?

>>23836890
when i took 2-fma my dick would not get hard no matter what i did

now what almost crippled me was some beginner grammar things that made me think 誰も meant "no one" and 誰でも meant "everyone"

fucking stupid language

>>23836897
it doesn't?

>>23836792
fuuuuuck shes married

What's the recommended way to learn grammar? Just reading through Tae Kim and using native material, or studying it in Anki?

>>23836701
i think this article shows that this specific teaching method is probably good for middle and high school students, i don't know if it shows "adults getting enough comprehensible input is an effective method". the video talks about how a study showed the traditional method had students "remembering 36% of words while TPRS students remembered 75% of the words". mia's anki approach is super good at helping you remember a ton of words, and the whole point of this dude's approach is that acquisition is different, so why does he think that's a good method?

as an adult in america my experience is that no matter what method was taught, i dont know any other person who has a fluent second language because they learned it in high school or lower. does anyone? maybe this guy is right, his credentials seem decent, but i just don't see the studies as something particularly relevant to adult aged self-learners (which everyone in here is), other than being good marketing.

>>23837095
yup, can confirm, got pretty high marks way back when i was doing gcse french and i remember nothing but the most basic shit now

>>23837049
same

>>23837147
The thing is that math kinda sticks if you're good at it cause its basic shit, you learn how to solve something and you solve problems exactly the same way. Input FTW

>>23836340

there has to be a ton of videos in breaking down set phrases, intermediate/advanced grammar points and those verbs that have a dozen different uses (like the かかる video). in any case it can't be worse than a 15 minute video on the pointlessness of the jlpt

>>23837172
Is dolly better than tae kim? Id rather just do tae kim but if dolly is REALLY that good ill just watch her

so sick of newfags coming in and asking stupid questions, might just stop coming here

>>23837147
>>23837169

yeah math can at least sort of teach you problem solving and a lot more jobs need some amount of math brain. teaching a 11 year old spanish or french is just wasting hours of your life and their life.

>>23837184
like u lol

>>23837147
yeah but at least a much higher percentage of students will actually learn it, and for those students who will go into skilled labor, they will abolsutely need those mathematic basics.

hey bros does anyone know where i can find myself some hxh 1999 subs? i've already seen the 2011 adaptation and want to give the older one a shot too

watching shit anime right now and understanding 30-40% without subs cuz i cant bother to focus

>>23837273
retard

gonna mine some lolishit

how much of japanese content am i going to miss if i avoid futa shit

loli pussy

so quiz now has people doing his idc gig for him

>>23837406
i always knew that this guy fucks

>>23833825
wtf almost missed this beauty
why would you post this shit so early

having a lot more fun just reading japanese instead of """studying""" japanese. and paradoxically it feels like my abilities just increase. i might forget how to read a word but there is some other meta skill to reading where you just know what is going on and can assimilate new meanings or reasonably make up readings for words and it's fine. no pressure just enjoyment

>>23836898
lol nice

>>23837406
im new are we supposed to be making fun of this guy, this is just boring

dno why but deep down inside me i have this need to post a picture of these titties to jamal
i mean holy shit

>>23837679
thanks man i used to read your posts on reddit about anki when i was learning. it really is some sort of addiction. i still occasionally have this compulsion to create a flashcard but i know intuitively (not just logically) now that it doesn't matter and just continue reading. my reading speed is just taking off now (getting closer to my native reading speed, sometimes faster sometimes slower) that i stopped caring about every little detail of the language. it feels great and i make faster progress in books or whatever which is also a great feeling cuz you run into more of those moments that really matter quicker

i've finished the yotsuba i word deck, going through the sentences i, i see this:

そう言えばうちの隣の空き家に新しい人が来る

i get the sentence overall since i remember all the words, but what exactly is

うちの隣の空き家に新しい

1. is the uchi here home or ours? i'm assuming it's ours
2. this would be "our new neighbors of the empty house"?

日本語はあなたが考えているほど難しいものではないのだと

feeling sad now

>>23837804
>by the way, some new niggas moved into that rickety ass abandoned shack next door to us.

うち = (our) home. うちの隣 = next door to our house. 隣の空き家 = vacant house next door. うちの隣の空き家 = vacant house next door (literally our house's next door's empty house).

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy i dont fucking understand torrents

>>23837893
thank you, that explains it pretty well

>>23837825
this sentence structure is helpful too. thank you as well

i love these things:

うろがくる
ガタがくる

>>23837894
WHAT THE FUCK

pls pay crunchyroll for your anime

>>23837894
>>23837919
NO ANON GET OUT OF THE ROOM FAST

>>23837973
good post

>>23837983
not good

japanese streaming services + a vpn bros. a torrent site thats all in english isn't very immersive.

i miss animelon and daiweeb like u wuldn't believe. could watch sumthin without havin to dl torrents from slow ass third worlders. just pop it in and be immersed

>だが そう簡単に変化など起こりはしない場所が変わろうともそこにいるのは確実に昔のままの自分だ
thanks for letting me know xdd

loling @ fags itt with no private trackers

how do i parse sentences bros?
i understand every word in >>23838020
for example but can't put it together to make a meaningful sentence

>>23831709
where is this from?

>>23838023
well i'm laughing at you

>>23838061
its the other way around bro

there's really no secret to it though you either understand it or you don't

>>21228839

>>23838187
nice

i wish I could timetrip back 20 years instead

マンコ

can't be my fav nukige are from outside of that time frame

i wasnt born last night
i know these threads aint right

there actually is a secret if u pretend u kno it then everybody will think u do until u prove them wrong so just pretend u do and refuse to prove it

>>23838308
?

its worked for jamal so far

>>23838304
the patented jamal method

>>23838308
>you have to split it like that or it makes no sense
everyone's mentelese is differeny so you're actually wrong on this one

>>23838334
>why do ppl wanna make themselves look retarded for literally no reason
who are you referring to now

>>23838308
both make sense to me

>>23838397
same

lol

see i like that jamal can admit when he fucks up

thinking about masturbating again
theres just way too many things lurking around to fool young man away from his path
im fucked bros

Nukemarine talks in reddit like he knows everything lol. Why is he made fun of tho? Is he that dogshit after studying for 100 years?

just don't masturbate for long stretches bro, works for me

thats how you would read it without a period or hearing the person pause after shinai

ok buy do you guys know what a 畝 is without using any aid?

>>23838545
This one, I mean

watched moana it wasn't good but it's better than all sol anime

beating it to doujins is the worst probably, if the story is "good" im like fuck i cant cum yet i gotta keep reading
but then you get surprised by a shit ending, and you are like fuck i cant cum to this either. and you just start reading the next doujin in the backlog
i go through this shit everyday until i notice that i have been fapping 3 hours just for doujins without being able to cum, so i just boot up a jav on the other screen while i continue reading

>>23838572
Unfortunately, that's not the one. But thanks anyway

>>23838614
no it needs to be special! i already get no satisfaction from that shit

>>23838620
wow i want to fuck her

>>23838648
25,112 more than me

>>23838648
25,112 more than me

startin to think matt and djt lied to me and ill never be able to write or speak
maybe its cuz im low iq
maybe ill try bunpo or bunpro or w/e so i can solidify my low iq

>>23838639
sounds like a you problem

>>23838648
31,884 here

cant believe tobira guy is the one telling me i have problems

>>23838685
31,884 more than me

>>23838660
go to japan
put yourself in a situation that requires you to learn japanese or else you'll die
???
PROFIT!

What went がががががががががががががががががががが...

very sad i'm almost through the death march manga

>>23838771
i'm sad for u that u actually read that pos

>>23838771
isekaifaggots are a cancer that need be excised

>>23838614
https://streamable.com/nb6zm

>>23837679
wow. hows your raw listening?

>>23838704
fuck you i would if i could

rarepotato was reading japanese while using a dictionary 6 hours a day for 3 years thats 6,500 hours of reading which would take 9 years for someone averages 2 hours a day and 18 years for someone who only reads 1 hour a day on average (which is still more than the avg redditor)

>>23838719
might watch this

yeah just felt out some nihongo

>>23838890
learn japanese pitch

>>23838890
Go through a core 2k deck while reading tae kims grammar guide and watching native japanese shows. After core deck go into reading

>>23838892
yeah i think the emphasis he put on the messages themselves rather than the "language" as some abstract thing helped him a lot because that's how we really use language anyway we're not thinking about english when we use it we just use it to understand (and communicate) stuff seamlessly
i think too much anki causes us to be too reductionist about the individual words, too focused on the language as an object of study, and too reliant on memorization rather than feeling what things mean
using a dictionary in the moment to clarify something in a story is different from trying to memorize that definition later

>>23838890
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3rYzNr8qWQ

makes sure you watch 10k hours of eng subbed anime before you try learning

>>23838771
read the web novel next

>>23838999
unnecessary >>23837679

>>23838886
i think moe watched it by now

>>23839020
>not mess up the system in general?
impossible
but you can sub to matto-sama's patreon and mitigate the damage with the vacation addon

>>23838997
agree. came to basically the same conclusion. anki fucks your brain. did sentence cards and found the same thing that you describe. actual reading/listening ability takes off when you aren't getting stuck on analyzing the smallest bits of information for 100% accuracy. kind of a miss the forest for the trees sort of thing

>>23839048
you don't even need the vacation add-on there's a postpone anki add-on on the shared add-ons list already that does the same thing

>>23839048
is it ok if I reduce new cards to 0 and just do all the reviews that pile up during a week or two?

>>23839059
how long did you actually use anki for though

>>23839065
yeah you can do that it won't do much damage the amount of reviews will just be annoying i guess

just cut my own hair and fucked up lol

>>23839078
cut the rest off

>>23838890
watch cure dolly

>>23839071
on and off for years. dont think i ever maintained a deck for longer than half a year before deleting and starting over after a while

>>23839007
i'm planning to
need a short break though cause i'd be going through the first part of the story for the third time within two weeks

if moe hasnt watched kodomo jikan thats like finding out quizmaster cant read or jamals wife isnt japanese or ciaran is a native

>>23838771
dropped the show out of boredom

>>23838890
fuck you lazy piece of shit

>>23839221
yeah i get that it's basically just some dude raising his adopted children while crafting shit with some combat once every blue moon
but it just vibes with me i find it really comfy

are there more pairs of words like ガラス and グラス?

>大人買い
lol

i finally did it

>>23839314
learned that from lucky star

>>23839314
and i thought japanese didn't like hiniku

gonna take a shower bros
you can join me if you want to

>>23839322
stfu tobira guy

>>23839322
not something to be proud of

>>23839322
based

i need to suspend some words but i cant bring myself to do it because i love each and every one of the flash cards ive brought into this world

>>23838890
Please read the guide before asking stupid questions.

>>23839302
wow even japon is doing that reddit joke baka

波旬という神号を与えられた上で即身仏となるよう地の底に幽閉される

>>23839440
true but anki can assist with making real gains more efficiently

>>23839425
?

how often do you come across doubly comprehensible input?

>>23839447
not sure if thats true past the first 5k words

what's djt's favorite isekai?

for me, it's overlord.

>>23839452
castle castle sounds pretty comfy tho ngl

just watched this. holy fucking shit wtf. the last act is some of the most absurd, ridiculous shit ive ever seen in an anime. the art was fuckin amazing though some of the best production value ive ever seen

>>23839465
i'm betting <10% of people here actually know more than 5000 words

i dont think im ever gonna know more than 5000 words

>>23839478
im on the last 420 words of 6k so it feels pret good to b part of the 10%

>>23839476
i dont give or know a shit about batman or dc shit
should i still watching

>>23839478
i dont know if i know 5000 english words desu

>>23839476
watched that on netflix it was awful

>>23839490
stop now then and find something else to do. you need to know as a baseline 30k

learning japanese is like having google translate running in your mind, except slower

>>23839476
if the production value isn't wow like gits then i don't care

>>23839535
ｓｔふ

>>23839544

ばせｄIMEふぁｇ

i think this naming style is both silly and lazy

>>23839469
the wn version of arifureta shokugyou
not sure about anime, no game no life maybe?

>>23839584
mount liver

>>23839469
re zero i guess, or digimon if that counts

>>23839478
probably true
dropping anki after 5k seems reasonable
>>23839522
no you don't

would have never acquired 鴨肉 so quickly without anki

>>23839598
why the wn over the ln? what's the difference?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv98NiRCN6k

damn this is so cool , they are like aristocrats

most polyglots don't know even half of the languages they claim to

>>23839777
uh yes they do sweetie. its just that those are easy and literally cuntries that are all right next to each other. i learnt spanish in 6 months for example

>>23839748
i mainly said wn version to differentiate it from the anime
i would have read the ln but it's not complete yet and only available as a scan
95% of it is the same thing though, the ln just has some spin-off stories added and a few additional scenes here and there which are mainly fanservice

>>23839793
>>23839822
thats not even funny, its literally the same way you have been making funny of polyglots with dumb strawman copes for years now. its isnt funny anymore try some different jokes

think esls have it a lot easier when it comes to learning japanese us anglos have no frame of reference

>>23839847
Ok? no one asked. theres nothing wrong with polyglots like Moses either you are just racist

>>23839863
you'll end up like jamal, a sad manlet whose dick stopped working in his mid 40s, likely induced by the depression he feels whenever he looks at his fat wife and her cottage cheese ass

>>23839875
the thing is there are peoples in this thread that actually think Moses is a bad language learner since they are racist and watch him fumble on his Japanese (1 of 40 languages he attemps). the reality is Moses reads way more than anyone in this thread and has much more drive to be great

>>23839883
yeah
the dude is still writing additional stuff on syosetsu but the main story is entirely finished

>>23839910
Honestly this is a pretty reasonable post, fair enough, "jamal"

it's that time of day again, huh

>>23839906
i wouldn't because im not a retarded uppercaser who doesn't even know how a sentence works

>>23836063
the fuck

>>23839923
Oh man, this looks like a really epic scene, like something really cool is about to happen

how long has he been repping that deck

>>23839969
you're right i dont but only because you're an idiot

>>23839947
this, only give a shit about sating my inner chuuni

the fact that he still does rtk is baffling to me
why would you willingly infest your japanese with english keywords unless you're a complete beginner

gonna eat some yogurt while touching my dick and playing eroge

>>23839906
try listening to the whole song instead of taking a single line out of context then you'll understand it

>>23839906
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/%E3%82%93%E3%81%AA%E3%82%8F%E3%81%91%E3%81%AA%E3%81%84%E3%81%91%E3%81%A9-thats-not-how-it.html

deleting anki today, my dudes
gonna free myself from the eternal recurrence

>>23840065
why do you keep posting this

dang we got 2 anki uninstalls in this thread ppl keep deleting anki to increase the combo multiplier

>>23840065
great posting tobira guy

>>23839415
>the guide
and where is this guide?

>>23840059
>literally made up translation

i installed an old version of anki and the phone app to counteract those 2

i remember so many words but i still only have like 10% comprehension of moege

>>23840065
tobira guy can you shut up once and for all

>>23840093
take that back dude read the about me for the translator they are "fluent japanese"!!

>>23840106
i feel like he is the new qm

>>23840088
>>23840106
not everyone you think is the same anon is actually the same anon ;)

>>23840093
all translations are made up

there is a tobira guy though and he is the worst poster

>>23840137
only a woman can win most annoying male award
epic

>>23840065
it has been 2 years since i quit anki, it feels good man. my penis grew from a micro 5 inches to a a very respectable 6.5 inches

>>23840091
In the OP. The retarded lowercaser who put up the thread neglected to label the link properly.

>>23840155
are you saying that women cant be annoying males?

>>23840161
is 6inch respectable?!

>>23840163
relax with the caserhate bro

>>23840170
it's big in japan

>>23836063
https://youtu.be/B-a1lG46Dfo?t=1377
gotta love nuke. says it's not た when た is the third japanese word on his list.

>>23840163
i did it to protect him
the only thing you should use the site for is lns and vns

>>23840137
i guess i have been gone enough that a whole new culture has been created here without me being aware.

im based
ur not
now get on ur knees
and suck my cock

*pastes text lacking important punctuation/fragments of sentences with minimal context*
guys can you help me understand what this means? thanks

>>23840132
i'm not informed about how this stuff is handled generally but if i had to guess i'd say no
at the pace the lns are coming it out it's probably gonna take another 2 or 3 years for it to finish though so i wouldn't worry about it at this point

wtf idk what garrulity or loquacity mean

>>23840230
read a book bro

wotd: 縷縷綿綿

>>23840230
i think u mean 饒舌 and use a japanese dictionary if you don't understand the english equivalents

>>23840290
Except I can

no one knows japanese

>>23840323
it's enough to recall the context and literally 10 kb lol

>>23840339
ok and what are you actually getting out of it because of that difference

>>23840336
hey nuke whats up

>>23840329
thats sad

>>23840331
if you want to learn japanese read it in japanese. if you want to roleplay that you are learning japanese read the translation

>>23840339
the only scrub here is you who has been trying to learn japanese for 30 years and still sucks worse than quizmaster

Hi I'm NukeMarine, a moderator for r/LearningJapanese, and I can't speak Japanese for shit, but I earn hundreds of dollars per month for giving shitty, generic advice and streaming myself mousing over every single word on Yomichan.
I have also allowed Chinese men to come to my house to sleep with my wife.

>>23840376
>>23840382
Because I can, you dumb cuckolds.

>>23840371
hey nuke, i just graduated, what should do?

>>23840331
needs to comprehensible to learn and you dont need to look up every single thing you come across if it's boring/draining to do so.

make friends with a dictionary and google

ive accepted the fact ill never know japanese it's not worth becoming an extrovert and my low iq brain is entertained enough by surface level understanding

Hey guys, YogaMatt here~~~~~

>>23840481
i think he is healthy mentally, just low intelligence.

>>23840456
agree

you're seriously blaming it on the fact that you didn't read the "keywords"?
mental illness

Can you guess what VN I'm reading by these crazy words I've encountered?

>矍鑠
>諧謔
>蝦夷
>卒爾
>嘉する
>憤懣

if you shit on nuke you deserve to be shot the man is harmless except to dumb redditors who deserve to be swindled

>>23840456
The Kanji deck is pretty much the only time I'll write stuff from memory. I decided not to make that a point of failure in anything else. Anything else is just comprehension. Beyond that, I really should just read, read, and read some more.

QM could probably appreciate the fun of being able to write kanji correctly from memory.

>>23840497
ramune

>>23840007
the english keyword thing doesn't really matter idk why that's the thing people criticize instead of the fact that you're not learning to read

>>23840481
Anyone can write 田, he just confused the shitty RTK keywords and wrote 稲 instead.

稲 is probably "rice", whereas 田 is apparently "rice field", so he got them mixed up. Not such an embarrassing mistake when you look at the massive interval on that card; he probably hadn't seen it in a year or something. Cut the guy some slack.

>>23840497
none of those are cRaZy words

>>23840497
no. but i have read 憤懣 in 憤懣やるかたない before so maybe it's not so crazy a word

>>23840510
否、違うぞ

>>23840516
They were to me!

>>23840405
no but i could have written 田

>>23840454
Why do you think I went and added the top 6 words for each kanji that appears in the top 40k words from a scan of 5000 novels in the DJT library? That clip is proof that you can miss the simplest shit if you depend on English keywords and that gets annoying when you're at 1000+ kanji.

>>23840504
not just talking about writing i'm talking about using anki at all

>>23840515
nukemarine cannot write 田 actually if you watched the video so really no point in reading the rest of your post

>>23840464
RTK will just be the minimum amount of time to test my kanji production ability. It's sort of like spelling if you're learning English. Yeah, you can depend on the computer, but having the correct form somewhere in your head will be useful especially if you do live and work in Japan.

nuke just gtfo here and go read some manga or whatever

>>23840542
No one cares fag, get your dumb ass out of here. I bet the thread will drastically improve once your retarded nigger face leaves.

>>23840550
jamal write 永 lets see what you got

>>23840576
So basically, likes ambitious people? ところ is not a place here?

>>23840495
The Japanese words dumbass. I read the keyword and mixed it up with the other kanji which also has rice in it's keyword.

>>23840556
what am i exaggerating here, retard? the keyword furigana had multiple examples

>>23840608
Thanks, kind sir

>>23840605
what about it

hey nuke. do you have a daughter? if so, may lick her soft pre-pubescent body?

order in the thread pls

>>23840595
rtk really does cripple you. glad i deleted my deck after i got partway thru book 3 and realized this was retarded. can remember how to write kanji whenever i do write in notes which makes me think you just need to read a lot to be able to write and not some stupid mnemonic keyword magic trick

>>23840627
seconding this
pls respond

>>23840617
or just look at the address on your phone or something and copy it down on the form then have the whole thing memorized after doing that 2 or 3 times

>>23840605
dumb as fuck you can recognize the same thing just by reading looking shit up and not being blind

>>23840654
Best post in the whole thread lmao

>>23840652
theres benefit to writing im just sayin you should keep it connected to japanese lol

>>23840627
>>23840645

>>23840664
>Daiweeb
more like diedweeb lul

>>23840671
nice cloze format

>>23840528
Fair point. Reading is great and reading with look-ups has actually gotten words in my head with next to zero need for anki. You do realize you don't have to add everything to Anki which is sort of why I like MorphMan as I'm clicking "known" a lot.

However, reading a lot will not help if you want to be able to write kanji. Not saying I'd like to be able to pass the Kanken 1, but a reasonably well-read person in Japanese should be able to pass the Kanken 2 or maybe even the 1.5, which RTK or equivalent will help.

fuck japan

>>23840671
that isn't an answer dude

>>23840691
if you want to be able to write kanji maybe you should learn the strokes lol and im not talkin about stroke order

me whenever some lanky motherfucker in this thread talks shit to me
https://streamable.com/zjl9y7

how bad is the humidity in japan? i live in colorado which is super dry, will i swell up and look like nuke if i go there?

>morphman
you can't make this shit up
permanently crippled

>>23840711
lmfao

friendly reminder that knowing when to give up is crucial and that try as you might, some wishes of yours will never be fulfilled

>>23840704
fuck you are so cool ciaran!

>>23840691
delete morphman now

>>23840721
Loser

this bitch literally says "trace on" and copies weapons
パクリにもほどがある

>>23836449
>>23836373
doing tae kim just made me wanna give up on learning japanese. I had way more success with dolly combined with looking up things on the master table of grammar points on itazuraneko.

>>23840729
that's the sound of painful coping, my friend

>>23840739
Comming from you, kiddo. The only limit is your own imagination, and judging by what I see - you have none

>>23840711
it's pretty bad dude, unless you are in hokkaido expect to be drenched all summer

>>23840582
When I'm doing Tango reviews, it's audio on the front. I visualize which kanji go into the word is all. I don't write it out cause that would take too much time. So RTK tests that I can write the kanji as a character, and Tango tests that I know what kanji go into the word. I don't spend all that much time on them (normally like 10 or so cards pop up each day).

Idea I follow is get good at reading by reading a lot. The RTK and Tango then are the small amount of time needed to keep my "spelling" up to speed with my reading ability.

>>23840744
no, drama is worse than anime i think and anime is pretty bad

>>23840744
give a rec for which there are subs

reading nukes posts is making me angry im out

>>23840631
Dude, everyone 4ch DJT shitposts about is bad at Japanese. No mystery there.

>>23840764
hey nuke can you do that test quiz and ciaran did earlier itt

>>23840789
>there's a threshold at which you realize you're not gonna make it
That's why I called you a loser, loser. Betta thinking right here lmao

>>23840797
ciaran's good
makopi was good
that's about it

>>23840642
Whatever dude. Writing out shit by hand takes time so I don't normally do it. Only time I might write something out is RTK deck (learn and review) and the vocab deck (when I learn the word the first time).

ｗｔｆnuke just called me shit

>>23840828
fuck misa

>>23840702
I'm not practicing 書道.

>>23840828
she's also a big extrovert as jamal says it's the extroverts who are the best
like that guy who got posted a week ago doing a collab video with a japanese guy who literally spent 2 years at a school for people who want to learn to be 漫才師 and came out sounding native because he just did manzai skits all day

>>23840827
>it's called not being a retarded idealist
- but being a betta loser instead, who fancies giving up to be some kind of "tactical retreat", when in reality you're just accepting your helplessness, since it's you only way of coping. I'm not even talking about Japanese here, your whole life values reek of being a complete loser wherever you go. The saddest thing here is that you indeed won't be able to change it at all, thus, being a stepping stone for someone else's success is your only purpose in life lmao

>>23840744
>>23840765

I watched a few eps of Aoi honoo a while back and since it's a manga adaptation there was a lot of stuff that was super cringe to see irl but would've been normal in anime. Are novel adaptations or original dramas few and far between?

>>23840883
projection

>>23840827
who gives a shit about "native level"? some people just want to read their fuckin vns and manga with high levels of comprehension see here >>23837679

still waiting for that nukechan eroge stream

>>23840810
yeah dude it's like writing is pointless if you aren't in school or something. so why are you trying to pass these japanese kanji tests using rtk again??

i want to go beyond natives

>>23840892
>no u

いせかいってつくものほど

あんまり

いせかいかんがないものがおおいきがする

>>23840895
https://streamable.com/4b4ts

>>23840883
your projection's the only coherent part of your post
like i said, you'll understand when you're out of college

i want to be able to write every kanji but really fucking badly

>>23840863
That? Pretty sure I try to match the hooks. The trailing stroke though I don't care about since I'm using a pen. Is there a point in the video you find I get it completely wrong?

>>23838058
八男って、それはないでしょう！

>>23840883
do you not believe that some people are born with a predisposition to be better at X than others?

like nukemarine has lived in japan for a rly long time and it doesn't matter obviously that he can't pass kanken test number whatever so what is the point doing these flashcard reviews when you can't even watch childrens cartoons without a transcript and a hover dictionary? mind virus

>>23840915
A betta loser's saying has no weight here lmao, you can say whatever you want - it won't change anything. If it'll make your shattared little word stronger then sure, I'll play along out of kindness

>>23840834

>>23840774
nigeru wa haji something and kekkon dekinai otoko

if youre already a 非リア充 and dont plan on changing that then stop putting learning japanese on some kind of pedestal and just focus on comprehending your media of choice no one is ever going to give you a trophy for "knowing japanese" its an abstract meaningless goal if you're not actually using it to talk to people

>>23840950
anon said
>there are some people itt right now who try aa they might will never be able to learn japanese in any substantial capacity, and they may be the ones who try the hardest
implying the whole predisposition thing, which is why i'm asking

>>23840929
it's not about predisposition. it's about obsession

if you get obsessed with something you will become proficient in it. and i don't mean roleplay like nukemarine or any other reddit celebrity but like matt or quiz style obsession where they actually spend all day reading or watching stuff

most people dont get those kinds of obsessions

>>23840929
there is no nihongo gene

>>23840960
shut da fuck up sick of retards preaching to the choir while thinking theyre delivering some sort of important insight

>>23840415
i agree

>>23840967
>anon said
read the whole thread, nigger. he narrowed it down to Japanese once he understood he said something a complete loser would say. Also, what he >>23840980 said

>>23840982
seethe harder

>>23840972
so what you're telling me is that anyone on this planet can become proficient at any skill if they are "obsessed", and that if they aren't proficient, they actually don't care all that much?

>>23840982
based

all this cope won't change a thing

>>23841007
500 posts a day of anons complaining they dont know japanese as if it matters when they will never speak to anyone

>>23840972
predisposition toward being autistic/obsessed with certain things is large genetic

>>23841026
there's no posts like that

>>23841005
this sounds like it stems from you quitting something you were bad at before you finally became competent at it

>>23841005
sort of

>>23841032
maybe you have something there but you would acknowledge it's the obsession part right

>>23840901
Well, Kanken is basically a vocabulary test and likely most guys here who've read multiple VNs can do quite well at it except for the part that requires writing out kanji. The writing out kanji part is not just the single characters, but writing out the correct kanji for words and phrases. And not everything on the test is about writing, but reading as well.

https://www.kanken.or.jp/kanken/meyasucheck/check.php?kyu=2k

>>23841034
still haven't given up on learning nip and it seems to be going well, so no
i'm asking a question that you've failed to answer, friend, quit it with the projection
again, anyone regardless of birth, race, class or whatever can become proficient at any skill provided they're "obsessed"?

>>23841057
add me on anilist

>>23841033
>there are no posts like that
>>23840415

God i love me some nukemarine

>>23841038
"sort of" implies a caveat
>but you would acknowledge it's the obsession part right
which some people are predisposed to have, as you just agreed

>>23841055
hairy leg guy isthat you?

how is my japanese bros?

https://vocaroo.com/fTzrdoazkC1

>>23841043
kanken isn't basically a vocabulary test.
it's a kanji test. and i am familiar with the question formats of the tests.

care to address the rest of my post? why are you trying to pass the test? and why are you using rtk to that end?

>>23841072
predisposition to obsession with practicing something is not the same as predisposition to the skill itself which is what you were arguing

>>23841068
doesnt look like complaining to me pretty funny that's the best u got

look bros nuke should quit jap

>>23841075
better than mine

>>23841055
Doubtful. Despite my military background I've never been in many fights. I'm a pretty strong guy so likely I'd just body slam them, but anyone trained in MMA or boxing would likely kick my ass even with my weight advantage

idk bros i feel like life is more impossible than nihongo

>>23841083
yes it is complaining and if you scroll more you'll find more but you claimed there were none

>>23841105
thats why were here cuz nihongo is the easier impossible battle

>>23841082
Yeah, it's a kanji test that you'll fucking fail if you don't know any Japanese vocabulary that use those kanji. Someone can have 100% RTK 3 and not even pass level 10.

>>23841108
it's not complaining tho he says he's accepted it

>>23841122
that wasn't me and anon contradicted himself but "trying the hardest" in the first place means nothing if we dont know what they were actually doing. nukemarine has probably spent 1000 hours in morphman shit and 100 hours actually reading

>>23841075
nice keep it up already better than quizmaster

https://youtu.be/hGZL_5Wn3aQ

>>23841075
real shit

>>23841125
a chink could pass the test no? also picrel

>>23841155
what damn question? im not even the anon you were talking to i chimed in once

>>23840790
Someone is mad that they've been learning for 30 years and are still illiterate.

>>23841159
a chinese person couldnt pass the test nuke is completely right you need a large vocab as well as being able to write kanji to pass kanken tests

>>23841119
youve @ed me with this song so many times lmfao

>>23841162
can anyone regardless of birth, race, class or whatever can become proficient at any skill provided they're "obsessed"?

>>23841179
yikes youre a joke

who puts a brake squeal in a vn ambient loop wtf

>>23841207
sorry