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>> No.23256583

finna acquire

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fully acquired 寸前

>> No.23256732

mined 10 words from 1 episode of anime fml

>> No.23256805

lethal farts coming out of my ass atm, i think if i farted in a corona patients mouth theres no way the virus could survive it

>> No.23256844 [DELETED] 

>>23256840
I won't die every time a virus!

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learning words

>> No.23256985

Anyone sleep on a futon sleeping pad? Just got mine and it’s taking some getting used to

>> No.23257000

>>23256960
i use reddit, not twitter

>> No.23257013

>>23257003
its like a dürüm kebab but mexican

>> No.23257014

>>23256953
rinkai is like when you're gonna blow a gasket it's completely different from kyoukai

>> No.23257083

finally this shitty anime season is going to end

>> No.23257193

>>23257107
learning japanese helped me learn kanji a lot

>> No.23257194

>>23257107
i feel bad for people like this guy but i don't know how to save them

>> No.23257222

>>23257169
This looks interesting, thanks, anon.

>>23257193
No fucking way.

>>23257194
Yeah I know, there's a lot of kanji and there are a lot of them that are difficult but my body is ready.

>>23257203
I barely come to djt because i've been busy learning grammar you faggot, i'm sorry if this has been asked before you bitch.

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>>23257222
lets see what one of our shitty guides has to say about learning kanji
oh look its nothing

>> No.23257298

>>23257291
ur isolated kanji section is potentially harmful to people like him who think the more effort they put into a bunch of bullshit the smoother it will be
put more warnings in it

>> No.23257311

>>23257269
>>23257291
I'll consume nip content as much as i can but i guess i'll read the book so that i'll have a better understanding to all of this.

>>23257298
Then what the fuck should I do?

>> No.23257315

i actively hope people fail to learn japanese i don't get why you guys are always trying so hard to help people with guides

>> No.23257331

>>23257222
>i've been busy learning grammar
keep "learning" grammar you fucking idiot. at least its practically guaranteed all these annoying faggots will fail so i can take comfort in that

>> No.23257346

>>23257333
why do you think im trying to influence anything i just like to see people fail and give up because it's funny to me

>> No.23257358

>>23257343
>>23257333
that doesn't mean you have to go out of your way to argue all day about how to best accommodate learners with the perfect guide lol just focus on your own shit and stop caring

>> No.23257359

>>23257308
half a book, the rest is just a listing of kanji

>> No.23257363

>>23257354
how's it more attention seeking to just ignore people and laugh when they fail than writing guides and shit for noobs with your own personal website on it lol

>> No.23257366

>>23257358
what's wrong with wanting to help people
make sure your answer isn't some variant of what's described here
>>23257354

>> No.23257388

if you wanna immerse in japanese you should look up and solve math problems in japanese, watch shitty food ads in japanese, and listen to japanese politicians' speeches

>> No.23257417

i'm struggling to acquire 弔う

>> No.23257465

>>23257434
https://vocaroo.com/2cwx0ylmpSm

>> No.23257563

>>23257439
wait til you realize youre not better

>> No.23257566

>>23257439
stfu

>> No.23257572

>>23257541
imagine some guy named tom loudly crying at his deceased mistresses' funeral

>> No.23257605

there's not enough anime

>> No.23257614

>>23257605
give this guy some anime recs>>23257602

>> No.23257632

fuck male-centric anime
all anime should only have little girls

>> No.23257633

>>23257602
>there's so much anime to watch
there's like 10 good ones at most and that's just theoretically based on if someone were to watch all anime in existence.

>> No.23257635

madoka
evangelion
haruhi

>> No.23257639

>>23257635
nice list of shit anime i agree

>> No.23257643

fuck anime with girls
kaiji is the only good anime

>> No.23257649

>>23257636
2.3k cards
i delete my cards as soon as i get sick of looking at them

>> No.23257650

>>23257636
lmfao 30001 shitty cards all made by hand

>> No.23257652

>>23257645
alicization was good, the best season imo

>> No.23257664

i can understand thinking eva is good but haruhi and madoka are extremely average at best

>> No.23257670

>>23257658
i don't have 30k cards cuz i deleted all my old ones i only have like 12k vocab cards currently and ill probably delete those in a few months as the majority pass a year interval

>> No.23257672

may favorite anime is code lyoko

>> No.23257675

>>23257664
haruhi is actually pretty good but madoka is just another covert anti-semitic propaganda film with kaleidoscope-like visuals meant to appeal to 4channers and dumblrinas alike

>> No.23257677

>>23257672
fuck those weird 10head looking niggas

>> No.23257679

i want to be the third guy with 30k idiot cards but i only make like 10 a day

>> No.23257683

>>23257672
that's animé, monsieur

>> No.23257689

>>23257675
low iq post

>> No.23257690

what was antisemitic about madoka i didn't notice and i don't read anime websites where they would discuss this

>> No.23257695

we dont take kindly to kikes around these parts

>> No.23257696

>>23257686
me too bro would you describe yourself as neurotic with at least traces of autism?

>> No.23257709

>>23257696
yes im very neurotic but no real autistic traits. schizoid fits me to an uncanny degree though it's probably meme bullshit so i dont care

>> No.23257712

汲む reminds me of coomer

>> No.23257718

>>23257712
gonna 汲む on your ice cream cone

>> No.23257751

>>23257745
stfu ciaran

>> No.23257791

>>23257745
i don't really care ppl can post whatever they like even if it's weird shit that's the internet baby

>> No.23257793

>>23257791
nice try shitposter ciaran would never spell people that way

>> No.23257797

>>23257649
used to be me now i just use retirement addon the best thing those MIA guys ever made
>>23257704
x見たら(見ると)xしたくなる

>> No.23257817

u guys ever do a new card and think to yourself "i know im gonna fail this shit when it matures"

>> No.23257818

>>23257797
thankyu

>> No.23257838

>>23257827
>~70% mature retention rate like normal people?
i have some really bad news for you...

>> No.23257927

65% mature shitter checking in

>> No.23257930

55% mature shitter checking in

>> No.23257932

37% lol

>> No.23257935

信じられない fact: わたしはゲイ

>> No.23257948

another two shows finished
need to figure out which trashy harem to watch next

>> No.23257971

>>23257952
you

are

a

retarded

monkey

>> No.23257980

>>23257971
There's no need to be jealous because you're not making steady progress. Probably mining 50k frequency words you'll never see too just because "it was in my anime".

>> No.23258001

better than bruteforcing memorization of a word that is """"common"""" in the japanese edition of the wall street journal and which you'll never actually encounter in anything you care about

>> No.23258036

>>23258028
i dunno man spongebob has some obscure words in it, adults probably don't even understand it

>> No.23258037 [DELETED] 

>>23258029
yes they are wtf

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>>23258020
This word isn't even in JMDICT. Doubt Japanese people would recognise it when they hear it but since it's in an anime you all probably mined it without thinking.

>> No.23258060

is 研ぎ澄ます a common word?

>> No.23258063

>>23258047
did you get this from discord

>> No.23258066

>>23258060
yeah its n6 shit

>> No.23258076

>>23258060
https://youtu.be/7DITb1Zmsg0
(2:30)

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>>23258047
well good thing there's a fuck ton of easy anime out there

>> No.23258084

>>23258063
>>23258072
Doesn't matter. There's tons of examples like this that prove my point. I just don't keep them around cause I don't mine words that come up that aren't even frequency indexed like people here.

>> No.23258097

i look at frequency lists constantly and always will even when i get good and i'd even check frequency lists in english if there were an english hover dictionary+freq list as convenient as japanese with jmdict.

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>>23258081
this chart is absolute fucking horse shit. yuuki yuuna and fucking flying bitch are somehow harder than ajin and sidonia no kishi lmao. jojo is the 11th hardest show out of 203 lol.

no wonder since it was done by a redditor
https://www.reddit.com/r/LearnJapanese/comments/cdjuln/googlesheet_all_203_animeloncom_animes_sorted_by/

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god i despite mal reviewers, how do i murder them all irl

>> No.23258187

>>23258047
>but since it's in an anime you all probably mined it without thinking.
id mine it cuz i think its based
just look at those chinese houses holy shit

>> No.23258188

>>23258177
lol trying too hard

>> No.23258285

>>23258225
i watched both and flying bitch and yuuki yuuna are much easier. more common vocab, shorter sentences, nothing but extremely mundane dialogue etc. i barely had to pause flying bitch meanwhile ajin was pushing my shit in and i watched both of them around the same time frame meaning i was equally terrible upon both viewings.
>>23258233
mob psycho, sao, jojo , hero academia kono bijutsubu, danganronpa, shirokuma cafe all have pretty awful rankings relative to other shows. the massive difference in ranking between different seasons of the same shows (k-on and noragami for instance) also indicate that the list is bollocks. it's just stupid cause people are gonna see this and not watch jojo or even my hero academia cause it's ranked as hard when its actually not at all.

>> No.23258320

>>23258285
bnha is shit so better get da yoof to avoid it

>> No.23258341

>>23258333
boku no pico

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I am losing my drive to learn
A year ago i was unemployed so i could spend entire days watching anime,. reading grammar and light novels plus anki reps.
At the beginning just getting to know a new expression or grammar structure was mind blowing i even signed up for this year's JLPT.
Recently i found a really demanding job with great pay, Making it normal for my workdays to be around 10-12 hs.
I haven't touched anki in like a month, cannot really afford 1 hour of my free time to be searching words on a dictionary to read a couple pages of light novels. Sand progress isn't really showing anymore

Has anyone experienced something like this? Any tips?

>> No.23258425

>>23258410
do something easier or more fun than LN?
>cannot really afford 1 hour of my free time
do less than an hour then?

>> No.23258531

>>23258493
obviously you love money more than japan otherwise youdve already asked for less responsibilities so you could study more just stay where you are and forget about the sakura blossoms

>> No.23258535

>>23258330
i watched it a long time ago it creeped me out

>> No.23258649

the 神のみぞ知るセカイ manga is so good

>> No.23258694

>>23258333
この世界の片隅に

>> No.23258721

djt is the place to be when the bros are online

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>>23258783
>>23258889
mirrors this gyousho in the middle

>> No.23258931

>>23258925
how in the fuck do u read this

>> No.23258951

>>23258931
context probably helps
and learning to write it might give some better expectations on how strokes change
not that i can read it

>> No.23259813

>>23259757
read more
delete the old deck probably
make audio cards from voiced lines if you feel like it
all your anki needs at https://www.animecards.site/

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if you can't お願い your muscles into a sick drift using the gutter technique, don't even @ me ボオオオオオオイイイイイイイ

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23259981

TO MACHIO, UNBEARABLE MUSCLEMAN OF "GAINS"

YOU ARE USING YOUR UNNATURAL, MODIFIED BODY TO ATTRACT CUSTOMERS TO YOUR GYM. YOU FORCE YOUNG GIRLS TO BECOME MUSCLEBEASTS JUST LIKE YOU EVEN IF THEY DO NOT WISH TO. YOU ARE UNFIT TO LEAD SUCH AN ESTABLISHMENT. CONFESS TO YOUR CRIMES OR WE WILL STEAL YOUR SPECIAL "PROTEIN POWDER" AND CHANGE YOUR HEART - THE ONE MUSCLE YOU IGNORE.

>> No.23260040

筋トレしても

武漢肺炎には

かかるとおもう

>> No.23260094

>>23257636
disgusting layout my friend

>> No.23260109

>>23258333
けもふれ2

>> No.23260224

it's so worth it to find good people you care about in life

>> No.23260443

>>23260435
thanks, I assumed something like that.

>> No.23261145

went to the store with a surgical mask and latex gloves lol

>> No.23261171

>>23261169
>laptop
kys

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>>23261169

>> No.23261263

>>23261252
give me some whores to jerk off later to then put ur cooming to good use

>> No.23261323

wotd:
怨憎会苦

>> No.23261486

>>23257784
Based

>> No.23261664

>>23261648
rude

>> No.23261745

any cool mech anime with jp subs?

>> No.23261872

>>23261629
any of the nekonekosoft games are pretty easy, or at least easier than subahibi and koiiro soramoyou.
one~輝く季節ヘ~ and kanon were both pretty easy too

>> No.23262019

どんなにじょうきょうがわるくても

おにいちゃんできることは

すくないです


できることをしましょう

マスクをしてください

てをあらってください

よくねてください

>> No.23262144

Is there a name for the rule where え syllables turn into their あ equivalent in kunyomi compounds? Like 雨宿り, 風上, 金網, etc.
Or at least is there a rule of thumb for when it happens, because it's not constant and it's driving me nuts.

>> No.23262628
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I've been through the guide reading about the long vowel sounds and it says that the vowel sounds of / i / e / are extended by い but when i'm going to watch the Tae Kim vid, he says the same shit but that nigga pronounces えい as /ei/ instead of an /ee/, けい as /kei/ instead of /kee/ and せい as /sei/ instead of /see/ which is fucking weird because at the end of his video lesson, he pronounces がくせい as "gakusee" and せんせい as "sensee" so my question is: Why does he pronounce えい as /sei/ but when he's going to say がくせい he pronounces it correctly which is "gakusee"?

Here's the link:
https://youtu.be/SLP1BxU6AR4?t=116

>> No.23262631

shut up who cares

>> No.23262723

>>23262719
uppercaser comebacks everyone

>> No.23262732

>302 posts
>43 IPs
The absolute state of djt

>> No.23262749

>>23262723
At least you gave me a (You)

>> No.23263051

>>23262824
i dont ever have the energy to jerk off anymore but your contribution to this thread is appreciated either way

>> No.23263083

truly a show for niggers

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>>23263079
oh no no no its not looking good for our generic useless supporting characters lads

>> No.23263200

>>23263177
they dont actually get raped it seems though the scene is pretty graphic for sao lol

>> No.23263203

>>23263079
in the original web novel version they went all the way in

>> No.23263212

i loved that scene i was surprised by how much gore there was

>> No.23263249

>>23263233
nah i don't think the web novel has illustrations

>> No.23263312

make sure to tell the ppl you love that you appreciate em

>> No.23263323

bros should i choose あなた or ダーリン ?

>> No.23263375

so fuckin annoying when someone ends sentences with っす

>> No.23263380

>>23263323
omae

>> No.23263395

>>23263375
sousska

>> No.23263440

>>23261294
not gonna make it confirmed

>> No.23263444

>>23263440
stfu

>> No.23263475

>>23261279
based

>> No.23263481

>>23263465
not true the only good american media is pre 2010 childrens movies spongebob and breaking bad

>> No.23263492

it took me 1500-2000 western movies before i got bored of it so i think i wont run out of nip shit until i get good

>> No.23263493

>>23263444
scrubにすぎない ;^)

>> No.23263683

>>23263465
or it could just be a cultural centric thing and youre not as special as you imagine yourself to be

>> No.23263708

>>23263683
or it could just be that westerners are better at writing books and stories like they have been for at least the past 1000 years. and that has nothing to do with how special i am. i didn't write any of that. but i can read and watch it and it's plainly obvious it's better than the shallow cliche bullshit that the relatively small population of bug men on their isolated bug island produces.

>> No.23263709

>>23263655
free rep

>> No.23263773

>>23263708
the uk is an even smaller island of even worse bug men but you probably like their shit calm down

>> No.23263925

>>23263708
lots of western stories are also completely cliche. especially if you include screenwriting, it's rare for movies and shows to include a single original element. you're comparing only the best western writing with all japanese writing.

>> No.23263954

>>23263746
really hard to understand stories that are almost carbon copies of western stories except recycled to the nth degree
>>23263773
just like with science and technology the uk has accomplished a lot more than japan
>>23263925
western stories produce more greats and i'm not comparing the best to all i'm comparing the best to the best. hell even average western tv series compete with japan's best and if you compare best to best well it's not even close

>> No.23263979

the west cant do moe as well as japan do

>> No.23263985

question. if you mine stuff only when you understand the sentence very well, lets say for a beginner something like ちゅう in「今考え中」... and you review that. how is that not helping you more quickly acquire 考え中 and other phrases that use 中 in that way?

>> No.23263988

>>23263979
based degenerate low iq poster

>> No.23264012

>>23263985
it obviously does help why wouldn't it

>> No.23264098

have you ever heard of someone being referred to as 貢女?
is that like a gold digger or does it have some kind of different connotation?

>> No.23264161

>>23264098
Oh, I misread it, it was 貴

>> No.23264202

>>23264191
that girl looks like she 燃やすs some 石炭を

>> No.23264233

>>23264191
wow i want to fuck her

>> No.23264242

>>23264202
全く違いますよ

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>>23264233

>> No.23264272

aaah my fucking dopamine

>> No.23264329

posting with your dick reduces your iq

>> No.23264341

Using a dictionary instead of memorizing the dictionary also lowers your IQ.

>> No.23264354

if i won the 聖杯戦争 id just delete all uppercasers from existence

>> No.23264355
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said by a man with 60 iq points higher than anybody here

>> No.23264378

just ask the native

>> No.23264387

>>23264383
XDDDD

>> No.23264391

これでゆるす

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why not just 創世 here

>> No.23264423

>>23264355
its simple, we kill the dictionaries

>> No.23264440

>>23264355
why even learn a language when deepl does japanese now it's way better than me

>> No.23264447

why be a talented competent person when you can be fat and retarded and own a smartphone

>> No.23264452

well plus einstein said something retarded anyway because you're going to be able to make more inferences and connections if you have a bank of knowledge in your head rather than consolidated onto that smartphone where you won't remember the majority of specifics that you look up if you're not a genius like him

>> No.23264467

>>23264355
you can look up literally everything in existence on ur pocket computer nowadays dont think he could have pictured that when he said this tbqh

>> No.23264478

how do i read a kanji that has 2 onyomis??? someone told my that you dont need to learn the 2 onyomi on each kanji instead the kanji that have 2 onyomi make special words. for example kanji divide has 3 onyomi bun fun and bu so how do i read it when i see it a certain someone told me that there are words like wakari and these words are read with the kanji that have 2 or more onyomi even if they dont have the bun fun ir bu

>> No.23264479

>>23264478
you gotta know japanese first

>> No.23264482

>>23264478
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tvlIcQ5VT0

>> No.23264483

>>23264479
i already learned kunyomi if thats what its called. and started to learn the onyomi but i niticed that some of the kanji have 2 ir more onyomi so i didnt underatand how to read it if yiu would explain i would be most grateful

>> No.23264486

>>23264478
nice bait

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Too soon deck.

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掃除機ちゃん…

>> No.23264667

stfu guy is gay because he never tells that horny guy to stfu so he must like when he posts that

>> No.23264671

>>23264483
kunyomi can be kan-on, go-on, too-on, or min-on, so youre pretty much fuc'd in regards to that

>> No.23264697

>>23264447
because you can still be fat and retarded but also have memorized useless shit like rare kanji readings which will never help you get real friends or have a job or even enjoy shit more than that guy from the hentai games general who reads the same shit as you except with the aid of google translate

>> No.23264698

言葉

why do these kanji together mean word/speech/phrase

>> No.23264705

feel it out

>> No.23264706

>>23264698
言u葉fta figga that out on your own

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>>23264697
incredibly based
underweight and "gifted" btw haha

>> No.23264718

have a VN open since i'm trying to force myself to read every day since my anki stats suck but i don't wanna read so i'm shitposting here

>> No.23264720

>>23264698
万葉集

>> No.23264817

Didn't know what 言葉にする meant so I threw it into google and weblio thankfully had synonyms and definitions but I'm very angry this isn't in jmdict by default.

>> No.23264839

>>23264817
throw it into deepl next time

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23264854

>shounen protagonist wont let his enemies die after defeating them cause みんなを守りたい

>> No.23264857

>>23264854
name 2

>> No.23264873

>>23264857
goku and gon freeks

>> No.23264879

>>23264499
>>23264272

>> No.23264891

>>23264879
cool post bro

>> No.23264905

getting real sick of this corona shit bros

>> No.23264906

>>23264873
neither of those are shounen

>> No.23264914

>>23264906
guess they fucked up by publishing both in shonen jump

>> No.23264916

hey guys if you have issues with onomatopoeia words matt says to just keep immersing and eventually they will stick. so dont sweat it

>> No.23264917

>>23264905
gonna be real fucking pissed if the entirety of the world doesnt gang up on china after this

>> No.23264919

>>23264905
haha nice one

>> No.23264922

>>23264906
what are they

>> No.23264927

>>23264914
>>23264922
hxh is seinen and db is crypto-josei

>> No.23264934

>>23264927
both dumb pointless action shows for kids the way i see it

>> No.23264936

throwing a quick question out there, how do you write "coloring a manga page" in kanji?

>> No.23264937

>>23264905
hope they ban travelling all over the world after this

>> No.23264940

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qWqIo1FR-8

Khatz is far from "native-level" in the blue shirt video. He makes multiple grammar mistakes ("化粧しても改善しないよ" at 6:20), uses unnatural collocations (“心を傷つかれただけ” at 1:06), thinks in English and translates directly into unnatural Japanese ("ボキャブラリーテスト、語彙試験" at 4:29), and overall lacks consistency in his speaking style to a degree that I have never seen in a native speaker. And then, of course, there are the unnatural pitch accent mistakes every single sentence.

The fact that you think that Khatz in the blue shirt video is "perfect besides pronunciation" shows the limits of your Japanese perception.

Japanese people tell me that I sound "100% native" all the time. It's just their way of being polite. It's just the next level of saying "日本語上手" to a foreigner who can't say anything other than a self-introduction. The fact that my Japanese friend said that he thought Khatz sounded Japanese doesn't mean anything; people say the same thing about my Japanese all the time even though it's not true. In recent years I've shown Japanese friends the blue shirt video and gotten told that overall they thought my Japanese sounded more native.

Don't get me wrong, Khatz is great at Japanese in that video, especially for having only studied for 4 years (although there are some good reasons to doubt that he fudged some of the numbers in his own story). But, he's far from native. I was at a similar level when I was 4 years in as well.

Khatz posted a video of him speaking Japanese on Patreon a few weeks ago, and he's still making basic pronunciation mistakes. So arguing that I'm inferior to Khatz because I "still have an accent after 10 years" doesn't make much sense. The real difference between me and Khatz is that I'm realistic. I've literally never seen a single gaijin who has actually reached native-level, including Khatz. So, I have no reason to tell people that it's possible.

The idea that you can get to a "near native-level" in 2 years is completely ridiculous. It's a big fat lie that Khatz made up as a marketing gimmick. I can guarantee you that after 2 years, he was significantly worse than he was in the blue shirt video. And again, he's not even close to native in the blue shirt video.

I'm writing this because the sort of misinformation you're spreading can be extremely harmful. He gave me unrealistic expectations which took me years to recover from.

>> No.23264944

>>23264940
Yeah I'm not reading all that, 5 decides what I read next.

>> No.23264946

interesting how quickly and easily borders can be closed

>> No.23264966

>>23264940
First all of, I just want to point out that “better than native” is extremely misleading. Mandarin is spoken with many different accents around China. “Putonghua” is the “officially” correct version of Mandarin that is mandated by the government and spoken by TV broadcasters. But no one really speaks true Putonghua as a native language. It’s arbitrary to say that “closer to Putonghua” is “better”, as Chinese people around China generally aren’t making any active effect to sound more “standard”; they just talk how they talk. So, “better than native” really just means, “closer to a standard that no one is actually trying to reach”. In any other language, the notion of “having better pronunciation than a native” would make absolutely zero sense, as “perfect pronunciation” is literally defined by how natives actually speak.

I have heard of multiple L2 Chinese speakers who apparently sound completely native, but zero L2 Japanese speakers who sound completely native, so this leads me to think that Chinese is inherently easier to master from a pronunciation point of view. So, we have to take this into account as well.

I’ve been aware of ideas like this and other similar variations for a few years. I think they might have a lot of potential, but I also don’t think it’s some kind of silver bullet. You can reach a “7-8 out of 10” accent just from doing MIA and putting zero effort into your accent. I would say that most traditional AJATTers (Khatzumoto, me, Patrick, Nick), have around an 8 or 9 level accent (not taking pitch accent into account), and none of us did any intentional accent work besides shadowing every now and again.

Another thing I will say is that this sort of exercise will not help you to acquire pitch accent. Even if you could repeat back the 30 sentences you memorized 100% perfectly, that won’t transfer over to general pitch accent accuracy. High-level Japanese speakers who mess up pitch accent never pronounce things with pitch-patterns that don’t exist; they just often pronounce words with the wrong pattern. The hard part is not “being able to pronounce the pattern”, but “knowing what pattern is correct in what situation”. This ability to say words with the correct pattern is something that you have to train on a word-by-word basis. It’s not like vowels and consonants, where learning to pronounce it perfect in one situation means you can pronounce it perfect in any situation.

When it comes to going from an “8” or “9” to a “10”, I think you’re going to have to put in a lot of hard work, but that work can come in different forms. This is one form. I have also heard of people listening to one 10 minute clip in the language thousands of times. I’m also curious how much more effective these techniques are than traditional shadowing.

I would like to explore these ideas more in the future, but these are all the thoughts I have for now.

>> No.23264977

not reading that
who is autistic enough to type up this much bullshit

>> No.23264981

>>23264940
i always thought jamal was the black person in this video

>> No.23264984

>>23264508
why wouldn’t you?

>> No.23264988

>>23264012
ok why is it that for weeks now people have been saying that anki has no effect on acquisition

>> No.23264990

>>23264940
mutt went from licking khatzs ass to having his own being blasted by the very same, sugoi

>> No.23264992

>>23264988
learn to ignore retards maybe

>> No.23264993

>>23264984
its obvious one just from the kanji

>> No.23264995

>>23264984
the same reason you don't need a card for 花屋

>> No.23264996

>>23264991
if you dont st fuck u im gonna give you a paper cut with my n1 certificate

>> No.23265003

im beyond native lvl since i correct japs in their kanji usage

>> No.23265004

Just shaved and now Face ID can't recognize me

>> No.23265016

>>23265012
matt dono

>> No.23265018

>>23265009
like what

>> No.23265034

>>23261279
are there even any jrpgs where you can do this
everything i can think of has automated stat growth
i feel like manual stat point allocation is more a western rpg thing

>> No.23265059

>>23265034
final fantasy 10 counts
and bonus points on top of normal automatic growth are extremely common

>> No.23265062
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23265062

>>23265018
like this thing

>> No.23265065

also very normal in mmos

>> No.23265067

>>23261279
i too have been enjoying this anime

>> No.23265072

>>23265034
dq8 has some stat allocation shit iirc

>> No.23265076

>>23265034
ファンタジーライフ

>> No.23265086

>>23265080
your mother will be very glad to know its not too late to abort you

>> No.23265095

>>23265034
super mario rpg

>> No.23265110

>>23257331
What's wrong with learning grammar?

>> No.23265111

>>23265105
you're not missing out on anything they feel samey after playing 1 or 2 of them

>> No.23265113

>>23264940
who, and i can’t stress this enough, CARES

>> No.23265128

>>23265120
now you're being rude

>> No.23265163

>>23265059
i wouldn't say ff10 counts, your stat growth still happens automatically and the spheregrid is just a bonus
but yeah i can think of a few where you can allocate bonuses at least

>>23265072
only skill allocation, i'm playing it right now actually

>>23265095
this is also a bonus system iirc

>>23265076
>>23265056
these definitely count though

>> No.23265179

>>23265110
its impossible

>> No.23265185

>>23257363
every thread you post 2-3 times about how you're happy because someone in the world was mildly inconvenienced

>> No.23265187
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23265187

what % u at, djt?

>> No.23265190

>>23265179
no it’s not. you can definitely get a feel for what a grammatical phrase or word means from a good example. you still need to get input to internalize it better and acquire more nuances though

>> No.23265197

おいといて

>> No.23265218

>>23265207
well that's 1 in 20, or basically an unknown word every other sentence.

>> No.23265226

>>23265218
>well that's 1 in 20, or basically an unknown word every other sentence.
this is so retarded i doubt youd understand whats wrong with it if i explained it to you

>> No.23265230

>>23265185
i do that too so u probably amalgamated us together as 1 poster lol

>> No.23265235

>>23265226
it's a pretty simple calc if u assume a sentence is 10 words long, u fail maths or something?

>> No.23265320

>>23265303
yea so there's no point saying im an attention seeker cuz everyone here is

>> No.23265322
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23265322

there's attention seeking that is considered not annoying, and then there is attention seeking that is considered annoying. and it is the latter type of attention seeking that is explicitly called attention seeking. now let's get this thread back on track.

>> No.23265323

>>23265235
some sentences are two words long, and some are +50 words long.

>> No.23265324

not me

>> No.23265328

>>23265323
and you can average that out you fucking retard. shut the fuck up.

>> No.23265331

read hegel

>> No.23265339

>>23265187
100%>my lvl>90%

>> No.23265341

why bother he just stole everything from kant

>> No.23265348

>>23265328
ur anus is average
>>23265341
cuz hegel fused parmenides and heraclitus before heidegger did

>> No.23265361

>>23265328
based

>> No.23265366

is kant that retard who argues we know logic is real because we use logic or some stupid shit like that lmfao what an idiot

>> No.23265379

deepl translates jap better than me this language is fckin impossible

>> No.23265386

too lazy and probably stupid to read or understand philosophy

>> No.23265391

>>23265386
same but dont worry its just a bunch of words games by legitimate sociopaths

>> No.23265419
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23265419

how do i use subtitle edit to batch remove styles? there are OPM subs with simultaneous english and jap which are tagged differently by style.

>> No.23265427

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPibDbdjAEA&list=PLVj9jYKvinCurffH_q7FFiC118zmv1aC5

>> No.23265432

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQxMIpXuRc0
>description
>No japanese definitions because i don't want to read before my listening is perfect.
lmfao

>> No.23265434

>>23265432
based

>> No.23265439

>>23265432
>出会す

>> No.23265440
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>> No.23265450
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>>23265419
right click somewhere in the style column then click advanced sub station alpha styles, select the one u want to delete and click remove then ok

>> No.23265457

>>23265432
how do you find these people

>> No.23265474

>>23265457
hes got ajatt in his title

>> No.23265559
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23265559

「くんくん…この匂いは…?」
と洗濯物を匂いで確認するわんこ

>> No.23265567

>>23265559
gtfo

>> No.23265588

>>23265573
never seen it in english but ive watched like 7 eps in japanese and got bored it was decent tho some good moments

>> No.23265591

>>23265573
only nostalgia-driven burgers believe that

>> No.23265592

never heard of her

>> No.23265600

>>23265573
not sure but tons of dipshits think the dub they watched on cartoon network 15 years ago was "better"

>> No.23265610

dubbed versions are always worse, without exception

>> No.23265614

>>23265588
people think the dark tournament arc is the best which doesn't start until a few dozen episodes. i don't really remember what the first half of the show is like.
https://youtu.be/DDpQD0y2weI?t=38

>>23265591
>>23265600
good it would gut me if it were true.

>> No.23265622

also damn the animation and style are pretty sick compared to modern kid shows...

>> No.23265624

>>23265610
>without exception
Baccano
Depending on your sense of humor, Ghost Stories. If you tell me it is cringe, you'll get no disagreement from me.

>> No.23265627
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23265627

hs dxd actually has good morals
if you ignore all the bare titty exposure

>> No.23265628

>>23265624
and Panty and Stocking, even if I don't like the show that much. The dub there is probably better the Japanese dub.

>> No.23265636

>>23265624
>>23265628
and Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>> No.23265664

>>23265636
lol the original japanese is a master work of voice acting wtf you mean

>> No.23265667

おはようおにいちゃん

げんきですか

>> No.23265674

>>23265664
I guess that's true. It's kind of like FLCL where you think it sounds great in Japanese but are blown away by how "not shit" it is in English so you rate the English performance higher than it deserves.

>> No.23265675

just learnt 20 words on anki, i feel good and there's nothing you can do about it

>> No.23265681

>>23265675
why would i want to do anything about it

>> No.23265684

>>23265667
i wish i could beat the fuck out of you

>> No.23265692

about to read a volume of manga and there's nothing you can do about it

>> No.23265694

>>23265684
not genki i see oniichan

>> No.23265703
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23265703

i deleted roughly 240 cards because i "learned them" but actually kept failing them. i literally had cards with 20+ relapses. now i only have cards that have up to 8 relapses.

>> No.23265726

brb imma read

>> No.23265730

>>23265703
damn that sucks i only have about 240 cards with more than 3 lapses and the highest is 9 (1 card) out of a deck of 13k cards

>> No.23265734

>>23265730
there were even a lot of anime cards i had to delete. and i even made sure they were common words, yet ultimately that didn't matter because i never read.

>> No.23265804

is it counterintuitive to do RRTK alongside a general purpose deck like core2k or vncore?

>> No.23265814

>>23265804
yea you'll ruin your gains

>> No.23265822

>>23265814
Shit. Guess VNcore it is then.

>> No.23265846

Wish I knew Japanese and could hang out with Ciaran and the discord bros and talk about Japanese stuff

>> No.23265851

ぢdnt really doing anytihng today

>> No.23265866

core6k optimized was made to be done alongside rtk
id suggest you to do kanjidamage for a few weeks to get a hang of making mnemonics and to then move onto mining.
also, start reading furigana'd manga from day 1.

>> No.23265873

おふとんほす

だれにもじゃまさせない

>> No.23265878

what the fuck is boiro

>> No.23265879

I'm still 176cm and over 136kg

>> No.23265889

>>23265878
a vn translator who made a bunch of nihongolings suicide due to his inability to explain でも

>> No.23266029

stfu bros, im going to bed

>> No.23266138

>>23265419
You can use inviska ass stripper to clean your ASS.
Here is the link: https://mega.nz/#!HDBCkYxC!OzhRkJgF3Jm8WV6-BPxlPfH6O5nLkiGhA8-dzT4RcLM

>> No.23266172

ふらいんぐうぃっち or のんのんびより

>> No.23266186

>>23265559
post more pictures but no japanese

>> No.23266191

>>23266172
never watched uitti so nnb

>> No.23266197
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23266197

almost done!

>> No.23266207

>>23266197
only 32%, figure about 4 more months to finish it all to matured

>> No.23266211

>>23266207
where should I go from there? aside from watching raws

>> No.23266213

>>23265402
lol
the only philosophy that matters is the kind that helps you live better so props to you

>> No.23266220

>>23265681
lol

>> No.23266225

>>23265692
lol
>>23265879
wow ur fat

>> No.23266228

>>23266211
after you viewed all of the cards in that deck you can start adding new words to it, make sure you have a way of checking frequency though like yomi with fequency dict, you should be doing subtitles not raws yet at least not too much

>> No.23266238

>>23266228
is there a way to do that while watching anime in MPV?

>> No.23266267

i want to read Blame! but can't find it please help me and I'll praise your waifu

>> No.23266338

I've started learning Kanji, but I have one, frustrating issue: horizontal lines, especially small, repetitive ones.
What's the best way to hold a pen so to draw complex arrangements of horizontal lines? I think my current grip may be to blame, as vertical and diagonal lines pose absolutely no issue. Is it in the wrist rather than the fingers?
Please help.

>> No.23266340

気をやってるのにお構いないじゃ
i'm not sure what 気をやってる means in this context.
'theyre're doing something without any care for others,'

>> No.23266348

>>23266338
dont write kanji till youre fluent in japanese

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>>23266186
:(

>> No.23266354

>>23266348
Writing them down helps me remember, and I enjoy the process. Plus, my fine motor skills are crap, so this kind of intricate work is practice for my shitty hands.

>> No.23266367

>>23266354
draw pics of men's muscles using photographs as a base if you wanna get better motor skills

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>>23266367
Mouse

>> No.23266446

>>23266383
NYN姉貴ってどこからうまれたの?

>> No.23266452
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>>23266383
muscle

>> No.23266455
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>>23266452
mouse

>> No.23266463

>>23266455
I really like this Webm, may I save it?

>> No.23266471

why the fuck do some writers make vns with one good heroine and a bunch of other ordinary heroines or heroines who look cute but have a boring route?

>> No.23266481

>>23266471
more routes more better lol

>> No.23266482

>>23266452
ONEGAI

>> No.23266496

>>23266482
ur the only gai i see here

>> No.23266515

>>23266496
ごってm

>> No.23266550

>>23265559
>>23266352
ill clock u in the fanny if u ever put some japanese coomshit larp text with these images

>> No.23266592

>>23266550
would like that first one to clock me in the fanny

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>>23257291

>> No.23266659
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>>23265187

>> No.23266666

>>23266238
like this maybe? https://streamable.com/c8znz
someone here probably has the script, personally i just use https://video.fluentcards.com/

>> No.23266732

>>23266666
yeah exactly like that

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>>23266666
based hell posting

>> No.23266805

>vlc

>> No.23266986

>>23266550
lol do you enjoy typing out these random exaggerated threats all the time

>> No.23266993

he didn't start that meme

>> No.23266996

Its near impossible for me to read when i have a lot on my mind

>> No.23267038

がいしゅつきんしで

ひとがおらんようになってる
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCiB4a1HlOc

>> No.23267073

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFj2Hjcn2LE

>> No.23267498
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtTYQuO1j6w

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鉢植え

>> No.23267796

>>23267498
はつおんが

チャイニーズはつおんだね

>> No.23267829

what is the best j->j dictionary to use for yomichan? Are there any ones with pitch accent?

>> No.23267835

>>23267498
ドキドキワクワク~

>> No.23267851

>>23267498
same

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23267938

djt would this be fun to you

>> No.23267959

so many 膳s

>> No.23268048

>>23267938
i'd be okay with it if i could sit cross-legged

>> No.23268099

>>23268048
せいざしてください

>> No.23268112

>>23268099
no thanks my knees are bad

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>> No.23268250

>>23266666
whoever made the script doesnt want to post it unfortunately

>> No.23268288

Which hentai would improve my japanese? asking for a very close friend of mine.

>> No.23268302

>>23268112
やせなよ

ピザのかわりに

とうふをたべるとかどう?

>> No.23268320

>>23268288
shut da fuck up

>> No.23268325

>>23265879
i'm the same 身長 but less than half your 体重

>> No.23268335

>>23265879
jesus christ dude, im 188 and was 125kg at my heaviest and felt fat as fuck. do you not feel miserable like this?

>> No.23268344

Is しなくちゃいけない just a double negative?

>> No.23268350

もうすぐオナニータイム

>> No.23268359

大概にして

>> No.23268360

>>23268344
yes that is how you express obligation

>> No.23268406

なんでこのぶたやろうのまらをしゃぶっちゃいけないの

>> No.23268511

>>23268406
i will pay u money to either fuck off or stop typing in japanese

>> No.23268555

>>23268511
そう言われても

>> No.23268582

イタリア「あれは黄色人種の病気で俺たちの病気じゃない」

これはうそだよね

こんなこといわないよね

>> No.23268623

thinking of rewatching death not but my memory is good so i remember most of the story beats and i hate rewatching shit if thats the case

>> No.23268658

im hardly interested in what u autists have to say in english let alone jap

>> No.23268660

yeah le epic potato chip scene is seared into my memory as well

>> No.23268777

オナニータイム大成功

>> No.23268812

>>23268344
いけない is a stronger ダメ lol

>> No.23268866

武漢肺炎を

ロシアがついにみとめちゃったね

ロシアはさいごまでみとめないとおもってたのに

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>>23269143

>> No.23269223

>>23269143
https://myanimelist.net/anime/33724/Monster_Strike_The_Movie__Hajimari_no_Basho_e
theres not even a synopsis for it wtf

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23269362

Bump. Pic unrelated.

>> No.23269367

Images for Core2k/6k are so fucking stupid they're not even related to the word I'm learning just the context it's in as if that's supposed to help me

>> No.23269390

yeah and you are fucking stupid too for using core2k

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