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>>22755134
Eleonore is best girl.

>>22755172
>too tall
Nah that's a good height.

Finally...Friday

>>22755172
An anon of taste.

https://enty.jp/en/posts/121585 well she's a lot more colorful than I imagined. Thought she'd just be pink or something

>heart eyes
god fucking damnit g

>forge daddy has blonde hair and crimson eyes just like quinn
>his cloak is made of several compressed galaxies
what the fuck masada

>>22756444
>kawaii uguu designs
RIP shinza

>>22757568
Looks on par with the rest of Avesta designs what's so bad about it

>>22757613
>what's so bad about it
Shitty and cheap fanservice, no artistic value.

>>22757724
well i don't see it but you do you

>>22756444
Slut detected

>>22756444
No Malice indeed

Are the remnants of the Aditya fleet in the singularity?

>>22757568
The designs don't matter, the writing does. Masada's style hasn't changed, if anything he's gotten darker with time and introduced concepts that make Irae look pretty wholesome by comparison. Having a character be visually cute doesn't detract from that. Hell, Marguriete's design was literally just big blonde titty waifu and she ended up entertaining and unique.

>>22758809
no marie was shit

>>22756444
Heart eye shit aside it looks fine to me desu. Looks fine in OP's pic for example

It's been a while already, post first half of chapter 4, pls.

>>22756444
She's the one with the "don't evade, become immortal" Commandment, right?

>>22760226
No

So does Nadare talk like Mithra/Kouha?

>>22760759
>件の戒律を設けた奴の不死性は、すべての時代を通して最高の性能だ。無論、人としてはという括りの上だが
>人としては
Oh yeah, I get it now.

Plsi uploadi newi chapteri.

>>22756444
I'm still really not feeling the 1st heaven aesthetic. The designs just don't feel coherent.
At least it's a LN so the artstyle is a lot less prevalent anyway.

>>22756444
Her profile:



Height: 152 Weight:44kg
One of the seven oppressive kings of the universe of evil kings.

Absolute evil, ranking as fourth in the classification of the holy kingdom.

The monster in the guise of a young girl, standing at the top of the hierarchy of killers, and the proud owner of the most unsurpassed immortality in history.

Beauty with a somewhat infantile and mischievous character.
This is such a generally accepted standard that it is difficult to come up with something more generally accepted, and I often wrote such characters myself.

But since I want them to have some popularity without taking into account this type, I think that they should show themselves worthy in battle, and that is how I wrote them.

Moreover, if you put them in conditions where they scoff at others, and then scoff at them, you get a universal character that will appeal to both sadists and masochists.

I followed this logic in practice, I got exactly the result I achieved, I wanted to repeat the success ... and in the end I came to the conclusion that I was somewhat tired of this, and others probably too.

Therefore, the character of Frederica is different.
“I want to write terribly strong loli” ... If you scroll back on my Twitter, you will probably see that I wrote something like this a few years ago.
Then I came up with Frederica.
In this work, all the so-called kings of evil believe that action is much more important than words.
They show their evil with physical cruelty, and nothing like this manifests itself in their external behavior, manners, atmosphere, and so on. Rather, they can be mistaken for innocent children or enlightened ladies and gentlemen.
Because of this, Frederick could not be the devil whose main trait is prudence or duplicity.
Rather, she is like a fairy-tale character who does not seem to touch the ground with her feet, a little ephemeral.
And I think this is precisely what lies in the horror that it causes.

>>22762896
It would feel much more unnatural to me if we had a war on a universal scale with everyone dressed the same way. Space is big, so it makes sense for people to dress in many different ways.

>>22763999
I agree, but it's more about overall design philosophy than just what they wear. I can't really pinpoint what about it that makes me dislike it so I can't elaborate further but I'm personally not fond of it

Alright, so this chapter had all the kings of evil gather in Nadare's singularity, so we got to see them all personally:
>Forge Dad is >>22757438 , only takes this form when he's summoned, acts like a senile old man who's trying to remember what exactly he wanted to do originally
>Nadare is black & white aesthetic to the max, acts like an overbearing older sister who loves all the other kings
>Bachrawan is a mountain of muscles that can demolish matter into atoms with one strike
>Mashyana is shaped like a kokeshi doll dressed in some traditional (Japanese?) garb, hardly ever moves but still flips out when Bachrawan tries to attack her; apparently has plant abilities
>Aka Manah is nowhere to be seen, but no one really cares; not because he's so weak, but because it's so important, they'll only bring him out "when this stupid world is about to fall"

And after this description, I can't help but feel that lords of evil are basically the seven Throne gods. The wiki says that Mithra was planning to gather the Pantheon right after taking the Throne, so maybe this is a rehearsal of sorts?

Mithra = Nadare; might be a sensory, might be just a coincidence in aesthetics.
Magsarion = Bachrawan; both want to destroy everything else and be the last man standing.
Sata-san = Kaikhosru; both are basically tyrants who can turn their enemies to inanimate matter (bling/salt).
Merc = Forge Dad; both are inscrutable overbeings who try to find their reason to live.
Marie = Frederica; both are blonde murder machines whose mothers died while giving birth.
Hajun = Aka Manah; both are hikikomori who are apparently powerful enough to be the last resort.
Amaterasu = Mashyana; both are trees and potentially have Japanese aesthetics.

Alternatively, it might be that Magsarion = Aka Manah and Hajun = Bachrawan, especially if Varhran did in fact turn to evil and is actually Aka Manah.

>>22764049
Any images of them?

>>22764064
No, not yet, there's only Frederica from the profile.

>>22764049
Are the remnants of the Aditya fleet in the singularity? i think i saw a Masada Wiki comment about that.

>>22764202
I've seen people mention that the five Naraka Rangers are now part of the Throne, but nothing about anything else from pre-Throne age. My book will arrive next week, so hopefully I can figure it out (maybe even scan it?).

>>22764237
I was talking about Nadare's singularity :) apparently 殺し合っても即再生されるとか極奥神座みたいな現象起こしてる上に、ここ自体が艦隊アーディティヤとやらの残骸っぽい……？

>>22764270
Alright, I see what you mean. Yeah, it basically says so outright.
>A singularity that was born in a different era (time), in a different Throne (age), but still remains in this world
>A ship that sails across space, the domain of the second king of evil by the name of Angra Manyu
I should probably read the chapter more carefully before trying to discuss it.

>>22764341
Does narrative or Forge Dad by any chance make any comparisons between the pre-Throne era tech and Forge Dad's own tech? Like which is more advanced or something

>>22764361
Not outright, but it's implied Angra Manyu existed even before Forge Dad. That doesn't mean he can't make something similar, but it can go both ways.

>>22764438
So their comparable?

>>22764514
I suppose, but that's mostly because we have no idea about Forge Dad's limits. The only thing that's outright stated to be "clearly not one of his children" is Frederica's scythe, and that's because the only thing special about it is how much blood was spilled with it, turning it into an Ahnenerbe of sorts.

>>22764341
>a different Throne
That's kinda weird considering Ahura Mazda is the first era ruled/created by the Throne.

>>22764541
Does Mags use any new bug techniques?

>>22764658
No, but he does attempt to Alastor Frederica, which impresses her enough to ask for his name... which is when he stops her mid-sentence and goes through his "Who gave you the permission to breathe, scum" routine again. Needless to say, that only made Frederica fall for him even harder.

>>22764682
Attempt? Frederica cancelled it did she? Also how do the demon Kings get to the singularity

>>22764707
>Frederica cancelled it did she?
She did.

>Also how do the demon Kings get to the singularity
They just get teleported there for some reason. It happens on its own, Nadare isn't the one who controls it, but she does try to lead the meeting.

>>22764658
Nope, but we're given a hint in regards to something that might be his commandment and it would allow him to kill the immortal man murdering demons and even the butler. He Alastor'd Frederica as she was about to have a showdown with Kaihosuru, which caused her to even forget her own desire to kill for a moment, and she asks him for his name. He then proceeds to go nuclear on her tells her to learn her place, calls her a maggot, scum, trash etc all the while he's slicing the shit out of her faster than she can recover. He uses the the flight and teleportation blessings to increase his swing speed and to the point where he's so brittle even a pebble could kill him, each swing of his great sword tore off his tendons, his bones to break, his internal organs being crushed and etc. But he doesn't stop, the word stop doesn't even exist in his dictionary.
>>22764722
>>22764707
>Frederica cancelled it did she?
Nope, her body which was mostly turned to ruby by Kaihosuru was smashed to pieces by it leaving only dust and her head, which she started to recover from,

>>22764722
What was munsalat doing that mags got a shot at Frederica?

>>22764798
Had to retreat, Kaihosuru almost completely turned his bitch ass and the other maids into jewels within seconds

>>22764810
Would they not have survived it then?

>>22764847
Nope, which is why murder princess told them to get the fuck out of there

How does Mashyana survive hits from Bfravan? Also what are Kai's plans to take the Throne? I think I saw a comment that he's aiming for it?

>>22765082
>How does Mashyana survive hits from Bfravan?
That's the aspect of Angra Manyu (and also reminds me of the space the gods are kept in Pantheon's prologue).

>Also what are Kai's plans to take the Throne? I think I saw a comment that he's aiming for it?
He's aware of the rule of the world and thinks it's dumb. For example, he sees no reason not to love Arma just because she's on the opposite side. Nadare also tells him "If you want everything, you have to save everything", so maybe she knows he has some divinity in him?

>>22765118
How did Kai react when Mags attacked frederica?

>>22765149
His reaction isn't described at all.

>>22765196
Is Bfarvan's commandment on during all this? Like is he attacking everyone during this tea party? And the angra mainyu thing is just keeping them alive?

>>22765235
Yes and yes. You can't really "turn off" your commandment unless you're one of the homicidals, because they don't believe in anything. I do have to note that he's not attacking Kaikhosru because Kai pretends Bachrawan isn't even there, and he only attacks those who recognize his presence.

When are the first LN volume and drama CD of Avesta supposed to come out?

>>22766922
next comiket

>>22764049
>Nadare is black & white aesthetic to the max, acts like an overbearing older sister who loves all the other kings
Any chance this is Mitra's sensory?

>>22767350
99.9%

>>22767350
It's either Mithra's sensory or a red herring designed to trick us into thinking it's Mithra's sensory.
On an unrelated note I like the idea of Mithra having a sensory on each side to fit in with her duality theme, though so far there isn't much pointing towards it

>>22764013
So far I don't really have any complaints about the designs, but they're certainly very mobage-like. Still, it makes sense, since Pantheon was supposed to be a mobage, after all.

https://twitter.com/Boid_Edit/status/1216004231334785024
Heh

Chapter summary by trexalfa. Hope captcha doesn't shit itself on me:

Chapter begins from where the last part left off: Quinn, Ferdows, Samruhk and Alma are facing Princess of Slaughter Frederica, the 4th Rank Archdemon, who was behind the guise of Marika. The trio only share one thought: they must prepare for the worst. However, Alma inmediately declares that they are all going to die. There's exactly zero hopes of surviving the current ordeal. What awaits them is total slaughter, no other outcome than death in sight, no matter how much they struggle. Despite this declaration, Alma, taking on bravery and nobility, says that she will stand up for that reason. To become a stepping stone for the generations to come, as that's what Varhram would do. There's not one reason to show weakness before their nemesis, and inspired by Alma to showcase their pride as Yazata, the trio stands their ground against the inminent threat. Completely unconcerned with the fact that there's no escaping an opponent like an Archdemon, the group swears to move forward, following their Avesta's determinations. The one to fire the first shot is Samruhk, who extends her right palm forward and fires a torrent of red ki from it. She's able to do this due to a feature of the new prothesic limbs developed at Wahman Yast, Samruhk till now has no experience of "running out of gas" from invoking her Commandment, in fact, she has a considerably amount of "leftovers". In order to release this energy, which she normally has no choice but to store, her artificial limbs send a powerful stimulus through Samruhk's nervous system, and while the process brings about an increase in the level of pain, it results in a great stamina enhancement. Though it is a dangerous technique, it guarantees power.

>>22768279
The released storm of fighting spirit swallows the Archdemon like a tsunami, and alongside a roaring sound, it creates a great explosion. It was an opening move that would surely annihilate an average Daeva, however, the opponent at hand can't be measured by such ordinary parameters. Next up, Ferdows uses up one of his feathers to employ Vohu Manah's Divine Blessing, casting Kshastra on the entire group while they move to the chase. This is no normal use of the blessing as, for the price of a single feather, Ferdows has enhanced the defense of the entire team. This is one of the 7 different powers born of his Commandment, allowing him to boost the power of Vohu Manah's Blessing (Fer goes on to add that he can use this power due to the date having changed a short time ago and urges them to charge with all their power, as today's "Bullseye Day", as mentioned in the Glossary about his Commandment). They are all now as if clad in extremely solid, light armor, with the decline in mobility that entails. Otherwise, a single glance from Frederica might be enough to destroy them. Brimming with courage, they follow the charging Alma. Even though Frederica is covered by the dust cloud raised by Samruhk's bombardment, they can't ignore the presence inside, that is, pure killing intent, nothing mixed with it, a bottomless monstrous darkness whirling behind the curtain. Quinn reflects on Frederica not moving one inch and taking the blow head on. Could she be unhurt? Quinn tries just to think that, as long as she doesn't have an outside of the norm body like her father, it must have some sort of limits. Upon the girl in the dress getting in her field of vision, Alma throws her Jamadhar, its purpose being sinking into the neck of the 4th Rank Archdemon. What should have happened was a direct recreation of Frederica's unmasking, however, the result was much different. Frederica's head remained attached to her body. She didn't try to defend against Alma's blow and took it head on. However, the reason for this is not due to Frederica's neck having insane durability and just making the Jamadhar bounce off.

>>22768283
Alma's Jamadhar had passed right through her neck. As if cutting a mirage devoid of substance, it penetrated with no effect at all. Did she really avoid the blow at such speed Quinn couldn't see it? Or is she really a mirage-like existence? Preparing herself, Quinn swings her fist down on the Archdemon's face with all her might... while the Princess of Slaughter just stood there, flashing a smile that could even be said to be sweet, neither avoiding nor blocking. Quinn hit her target, and indeed she felt as if she had truly destroyed it. It didn't feel like she had hit a Daeva, her target's fragility seemed akin to that of an average Ashavan. Yeah, Quinn's fist had certainly hit and, despite that, the little girl's gracefulness remained unchanged. There's no bruise on her face, nor a drop of blood shed... only change had been her gorgeous blond hair shaking due to the wind raised by the fist's pressure. Quinn felt true fear at that time, though Alma's angry voice ordering her to not stop snapped her out of it. The order, through her Commandment, boosted her indomitable fighting spirit and her hesitation vanished. Ferdows, for caution, successively casts Sam to raise attack, and Fravard to raise speed via flight. Furthermore, due to his Commandment multiplying the power of the blessing, the compatibility problems between the two blessings diminish. Under the influence of this Physical Enchant (furigana for Full Body Strengthening), Quinn and Alma launch consecutive blows, Ferdows joining in shortly after. It was a never seen before offensive, with density, precision, speed and power. Incarnating lightning speed, there's no doubt that even a mountain would be demolished in a matter of several seconds. They are surely hitting her, but... why does it feel as if their attacks aren't connecting at all, that they just go through her? Meanwhile, Frederica starts a sinister countdown.

>>22768286
While this happens, Samruhk tells everyone to step back to let her handle the situation, jumping into the air while enormous fighting spirit pressure burns in her left hand. After casting on herself "Sam" two times to boost her attack, she prepares an attack that might be akin to risking her own life, as reinforcement beyond this point might mean breaking herself, therefore she'll use this attack now, while the greatest firepower the group can exhibit distorts space itself. The groups jumps back, seeing the explosive swelling of the crimson coloured fighting spirit. Then, towards the defenseless Archdemon, Samruhk launches her blow with all her might. That moment, a terrific wave of destruction was unleashed. The resulting shaking of the earth was akin to a king-class earthquake. Samruhk's blow crushed the Quartz Palace from its very foundation, and numerous water columns were already swelling up from the shattered floor. Whole structure can't be used a palace anymore, and won't take even a few minutes to sink into the lake. The violent shaking still continues, and boulders of all sizes fall from above. While everyone is gasping... only Frederica doesn't react at all. Frederica's countdown reaches zero, announcing her steady start. Frederica is still absolutely unhurt, no wound in sight, nor a change to her graceful appearence. Her dress doesn't even have a trace of dust. That's when Quinn realizes the truth... she is immortal, can't die, invincibility. Though it certainly is not uncommon to find Dragvant who are removed from death, Frederica exceeds that dimension in its entirety. What she has is an amazing regeneration ability, working so instantaneously it may as well be a delusion, and so fast and precise it can even regenerate her clothes, without the eyes perceiving a thing, allowing her to take all attacks head on. There's also no doubt that this is influenced by a Commandment. Frederica knows she's an immortal Man Murdering Demon, therefore she doesn't dodge or defend from attacks, she just takes them head on while smiling.

>>22768290
Immortality is a kind of racial trait for Man Murdering Demons but, by using a Commadment, such power raises to new heights altogether. In fact, it looks like there might be no means to kill the 4th Rank Archdemon. The team cannot help but be awed but Frederica, who doesn't mind their shivering, addresses them in a pure tone. The Archdemon reveals she was planning to keep posing as Marika till the "bridge" was lowered, but Alma's attack made her plans go somewhat amiss. The time difference was of 10 seconds, so she has refrained from fighting till this countdown was over, something the team should take as her compliment to their wit. She particularly smiles towards Alma, who discovered her true nature. As a reward, she has refrained from counterattacking, but now things would be different. While the entire group becomes highly tense, Frederica is just innocently looking at her surroundings, before turning her back and beginning to walk. Walking towards the collapsed hall's entrance, she bends over and picks something up... or more accurately, tears something off , while declaring this is her first time ever to "dance" with Yazata, urging the team to forgive her inexperience. What she tore off was the lower half of a handmaiden's corpse, buried under the rubble, and she now carries it while smiling. Carrying the corpse from the ankle, as if showing off some stylish purse, she turns around. After an offhand mention to her "Bhavan-oniisama", she casually, but with terrific speed, swings the corpse's lower half. The sheer centrifugal force tears the corpse from the thigh, both legs spread in 180 degrees, so it becomes a long rope of flesh.

>>22768295
She has made the corpse into a whip, into an improvised weapon. Frederica's attitude and jumps are more akin to a dancer's move than fighting moves. While spinning her whip above her head, she slowly walks towards the team. Though it is obvious Frederica has no fighting experience, and her movement induces no tension, the team choses to take cover instinctually... a reasonable action, as found out just one moment later. Just then, an explosion that easily exceeded Samruhk's best move from before ensued, which completely smashes up the already partially destroyed Quartz Palace, and the ensuing water and atmospheric explosions blow the team away. The team is flying in the air as if leaves in the wind, while Frederica stands below them in the remaining crater that was Quartz Palace's lake. This violence could be said to even be treason against the world, altering the planet's geographical features while using something as fragile as the corpse of an ordinary person as a weapon.

Alma reveals this is a result of Frederica's Power of the Ego, and that for the Archdemons, the impossible doesn't exist. Quinn's being caught by Alma, while Samruhk and Ferdows are using Fravard to fly. Quinn looks at Frederica from above, and their eyes meet. Frederica still keeps the same sweet tune. The Princess of Slaughter innocently becomes surprised of the fact they can fly, while claiming she's gonna "change outfits". She closes her eyes, a behaviour Quinn can't understand, but astonishment assails her a moment afterwards. Frederica says "Palanghina, for a period of 2 seconds, I won't be able to see", after which she swings her whip at empty space. In terms of distance and angles, it seems like nonsense behaviour but... with the sound of bones and internal organs being crushed, Quinn begins to hear her comrades' screams overlap. Furthermore, an invisible, easily capable of tearing through Vohu Manah's defense blessing side blow hits Samruhk, blowing her away white spewing blow. And the strangeness continues... Frederica says "For a period of 1 second, I won't be able to use anything but my pinky", proceeds to poke at empty space and instantly, begins puking blood and falls down. Quinn inmediately guesses at the true nature of this: Palanghina, disposable Commandments.

>>22768304
Being able to always hit the target in exchange for blindness. Being limited to using her weakest action in exchange for being able to gouge the enemy's vital points, that is, temporary bindings and rewards. Something impossible to all but Man Murdering Demons, empty beings who can change their convictions as if they were clothes. While Frederica is picking her third outfit, via a binding of 3 seconds, Quinn and Alma charge at her together, as there's no meaning in keeping distances, plus, this will force her into fighting head on. This could look like a suicide attack from an outsider's perspective, but Quinn doesn't plan on giving up anytime soon... in fact, she's going to use her "trump card", as conditions have already been met, and she telepathically addresses Alma, and tells her she knows she's hiding something. She can't read the full details, but she knows she has a plan to defeat Frederica. Alma, surprissed, flashes a smile. Quinn says she might be able to stall this for some minutes but after that... Alma should act. Alma, out loud, tells Quinn to force Frederica to get serious, something that puts in Quinn the conviction that there's a chance to turn the tables, saying that she's about to materialize a miracle, just as Frederica finishes up her new outift, saying she won't be able to walk nor run. Both Frederica's mock Commandment and Quinn's trump card are invoked at the same time, and clash. Frederica, who gained the ability to fly at speeds as if she were using Sewatir (teleportation), swings her whip at Quinn, who stops it with both her arms, putting all her body's power into them. But she stopped the blow, she didn't break nor was flown away while faced with an Archdemon's destructive power. And the reason for that lies in the words Quinn is exchanging with Frederica. If Frederica wanted to see their true worth, then Quinn's granting her wish. As she raises her fist with all her might and swings it downwards, she tells her she's Quinn, her mother's past caretaker.

>>22768314
This time, however, Quinn's fist works, finally produces an effect in Frederica. Namely, the Princess of Slaughter is blown off into the crater, and a cloud of dust is produced. Quinn chases after her. It is then when Frederica, as if recalling it, says Quinn shares her mother's name. Through the cloud of dust, the whip of flesh attacks Quinn, who quickly avoids it by flying. Results are far higher than Quinn expected, she can even hold normal conversations with her voice while flying at supersonic speeds. And this all came about because Frederica wished for it. This is Quinn's trump card: no matter how strong the opponent might be, if they want it, Quinn and them will stand nearly on equal ground. Daeva, destructive and slaughterous beings, desire fine prey, they crave for lengthy enjoyement. And Quinn's just answering to that particular craving. This power applies to almost anything Evil that has intelligence, using their own arrogance against them for the sake of reducing the difference in power. Frederica proceeds to ask Quinn if she saw her first and last conversation with her mother. Quinn says she did, and furthermore, she heard and felt all, all of Original Quinn's thoughts and regret. Frederica asks Quinn to tell her all about it. Fight continues, with Quinn avoiding Frederica's whip and striking, and though she now knows that the concept of evasion means nothing to her opponent (with her regeneration she doesn't even need to think of dodging), finding the right gap in between her attacks to strike is extremely difficult. Quinn's hit the limits of her secret trick: there isn't an enemy that truly wishes to be killed, so even if it lets her rival her opponent, it is a contrivance that won't yield victory. In fact, with such an horribly empty existence like Frederica, it could be said that compatibility is the very worst possible. However, this is no reason to despair, as Quinn was well aware of this... and has a few more aces up her sleeve.

>>22768329
Frederica asks for her mother's dying thoughts, particularly asking if she felt regret, a request Quinn denies before slipping through her blows and driving a fist into her face. Frederica, sad looking, mutters that her mother couldn't see her growth to adulthood, which must have been mortifying. She's seriously testing Quinn's patience, she's asking all of this even if she doesn't care at all, even if she doesn't feel anything. She was a disgusting, unforgivable Evil existence, a malformation only possessed of killing intent. The more you look into her heart, the more it feels like you are staring into an endless cave. Quinn drove a fist into her face, perforating it. However, Frederica brings her face closer to Quinn, a disgusting smile on it. Quinn understood her namesake hadn't been mistaken, she had sacrificed her life to save the world from such a calamity. In fact, all of this has helped Quinn recall the original "prayer", that is, the original Order that had been issued to her, that is, Original Quinn's dying wish, which she makes sure to convey to her daughter: she couldn't face her husband while giving birth to Frederica. Quinn tells the Princess of Slaughter she's shouldn't have been born alive, her mother wished she had died as a fetus without the chance of being born. That was Original Quinn's last will, the annihilation of her disgusting monster of a daughter. Empowered by Frederica's desire for a challenge, by Original Quinn's dying wish, and by Alma's previous order, Quinn's next punch, gushing with intense ki, scatters Frederica down to the cellular level. Though this has been the closest she could come to the power of an Archdemon, there's no doubt this won't be enough to end Frederica, she's the 4th Rank Archdemon after all, though Quinn could care less if she can't be put down through this method. Her role was only to draw out Frederica's seriousness, the decisive move belongs, of course, to Alma, given her secret plan. In the end, Quinn was just bait till Alma could put it into operation. Frederica, who could talk even as scattered cells, quickly regenerates with no problems, now empty handed, having lost her whip from the previous blow. But that's no problem, as she quickly picks up another weapon. What she picks up from the earth, from the Quartz Palace's ruins, is a twisted iron bar. One'd think it is just rubbish, but it has the appropriate length for a longsword.

>>22768334
Frederica begins spinning and throws the iron bar at Quinn, who stops it with her right arm. This also produced a sandstorm and roaring wind. This was just the beginning, now Quinn will step into an area no Yazata from this generation has stepped into before. The trascendent world Varhram once stepped into, that of clashing with an Archdemon. Cue Frederica saying she won't forgive Quinn and Quinn saying "That's my line, you trash". And so, the curtain of the danse macabre was lifted. Frederica starts continously throwing iron bars at Quinn, with no fencing elements to it. That, coupled with her movements, confirms Frederica is but an inexperienced fighter that doesn't have notions of fighting technique at all. However, it is not as if this is needed for someone with such strength and speed, and who can distort the laws of nature thanks to the Power of the Ego, breaking the world's principles into pieces. The trajectory of her attacks is able to bend in a way that ignores inertia, and though it might seems ridiculous, even the concept of space-time was beginning to be trascended. Attacks already dealt with coming from the past, as well as attacks that have yet to be released coming from the future, are being used and about to be used in this fight. All of it splitting the earth, tornados possessed of inexhaustible might are beginning to appear too. Indeed, she's akin to a raging 4 dimensions-like disaster, leaving all common sense behind. This is an Archdemon, their nemesis, and her inmensurable power is coming within sight, little by little. Despite her numerous wounds, it's not over yet. Quinn can't move yet.

>>22768342
To support herself, Quinn uses the Haoma and Kshastra blessings to heal and boost her defense, and also attacks Frederica after reinforcing herself with Sam and Fravard. Just then, a torrent of crimson red ki swallows Frederica's small form. Samruhk has come in Quinn's support. Frederica, who rips apart the curtain of fighting spirit, throws her weapon away and proceeds to fight barehanded. Quinn throw herself at her with a war cry, intending to invest all of her 20 years of life here. Though her arms are getting bent, and her legs are breaking, she continues fighting. Her face's skin's been torn off, and she's lost vision in her right eye, but Quinn won't ever give up, she wholeheartedly believes in hope, swearing to always cause a miracle. Even when Frederica blows away the right half of her body without leaving any trace... she keeps going. Quinn finds the current situation even funny: her current recklessness reminds her of Magsarion. He wouldn't falter at all in such a situation, so she also won't. Meanwhile, Quinn begins feeling a strange "Deja Vu" about this situation, as if it had already happened.

>>22768346
Finally, PoV change. Let's go back in time a little. At the time Frederica's true nature was revealed at the Quartz Palace, Arzhang's streets had turned into outright hell. And not because more than 80 Man Murdering Demons were amusing themselves in their feast, but because of the unspeakable fight between 3 certain persons. Zurvan stands at the heart of it all. The fight had started in a residential district close to the lake shore, district which has outright been turned into ashes and dust, and the damage to the city is slowly expanding in the shape of circle expanding its radius. Arzhang's destruction could be said to be gradual, and its certain this is not by chance... as it was Zurvan who orchestrated all of this. Meanwhile, considering the situation interesting, Munsarat laughs at what anyone would say is an innapropriate time, while swinging his circular saw. His opponent is a type of Yazata he has never encountered before. Because of the saw's enormous attraction power, capable of pulling in all of its surrounding, evading it is pretty difficult. Within the range of the attraction, it could be said he was even chopping the very concept of intervals, and facing him in close combat should have been, logically, the height of folly. But his opponent... is not resisting the attraction, rather he's using it to step in closer to Munsarat. This is the only way to properly fight him, by getting super close to him, thus entering the eye of the typhoon and preventing attraction from happening, alongside capitalizing on the saw's handicap, its length. This is all good in theory, but there are not many people capable of pulling this off, and from the experience of the black buttler, who has killed numerous Yazata, he could count those who would be able to using only both hands' fingers. It was a fact that their means of fighting didn't go beyond swords. Munsarat applauds this reckless tactic, though it didn't surprise him at all.

>>22768355
The logical thing would be to attack from a safe distance, but Zurvan is... getting close to Munsarat, a gleeful smile on his face. It is strange, as his weapon is a gun, specialized in long distance fighting. However, in spite of such safe combat method being available, he hasn't chosen it. Zurvan thrusts his gun's muzzle at point blank at Munsarat's throat and fires multiple shots, though the Special Class Daeva dodges. There'd be no problem at tanking those thanks to his immortality, but Munsarat wanted to do something to pay his opponent's unpredictability with the same coin.

Zurvan starts taunting, "What's wrong, off me quickly. You are not even worthy of that nickname of yours!". Munsarat diligently says that, of course, he wants to live up to Zurvan's expectations. Munsarat inmediately uses his breath as a bullet of compressed air. This invisible daemonic bullet, were it to hit, could pierce even a mountain, though Zurvan manages to avoid it just with a movement of his head. As if it were a dagger, Zurvan thrusts his gun at Munsarat's forehead, and fires, though Munsarat dodges it again. Zurvan's fighting style is nothing sort of wonderful, even though Munsarat dwarves his speed by miles, he's able to detect his blindspots through some kind of sixth sense or intuition, and quickly attacking them. It was not something born of combat experience, but an innate sense of Zurvan in which he had specialized. He was an impudent type at confronting his opponent, someone who would only show his true worth to tough opponents. Indeed, he is just astonishing, even to this ancient Man Murdering Demon, who's seen lots of abnormalities. Also, Munsarat was not the only danger towards Zurvan... for he'd also need to dodge Magsarion's full power slashes, which threaten to bisect both him and Munsarat. Yes, this is a fight between the three of them

>>22768358
And, while this state of affairs continues, the jester-like gunslinger continues dodging all of Munsarat's attacks. Zurvan again thrusts his gun at Munsarat's temple and fires, and at the same time, Magsarion's wicked sword strikes. However, Munsarat's still unhurt, having retreated with a speed their eyes couldn't even see, thus avoiding both the bullet and the sword slash. Munsarat was also not a common man: even if Magsarion and Zurvan's cooperation was utterly terrific, he hasn't lost composure, nor has been cornered. This isn't even a close fight for him, but a mere "dance". Their fight, obviously, has already involved Arzhang's citizens, Munsarat's saw has already turned several hundreds of powerless Ashavan into mincemeat, and the stray attacks from Magsarion and Zurvan have produced just the same effect, as a result of Zurvan's chosen tactics. Indeed this is something unbefitting of Yazata, it was akin to trying to beat the Man Murdering Demons at their own game. Munsarat recognizes their worth, though. Zurvan fires from a distance and Munsarat easily dodges by averting his head, thus, the stray bullet hits one of Munsarat's subordinate maids, though their immortality should make the gunshot no problem. Yeah, it should being the key word. The enraged Magsarion's sword strike is also dodged, but it also hits another maid. And here it is that Munsarat notices the abnormality that's happening. The maids are not getting up, their regeneration being too slow, as Munsarat witnesses with a bewildered face how his subordinates drown in their own blood, as if they were but mere humans. Munsarat swiftly avoids Magsarion's next slash, this time with a sense of danger that told him he couldn't let himself be hit, in contrast with his full of composure dodges from before.

>>22768367
At the same time, a huge explosion and destructive wind gale arise. This is obviously not a result of Magsarion's sword swing, but the aftermath of Frederica totally destroying the Quartz Palace, Munsarat not being able to take his eye of his master's display of power. As destroyed buildings and corpses fly through the air, Magsarion and Zurvan switch to the offensive. Instinctually feeling next attack can kill him, Munsarat is shielded by two maids, who are hit with the attacks instead, while he backs off. After Frederica's wave of destruction has subsided, the two Yazata stand in Arzhang, turned into a mountain of rubble, haivng seen the unusual behaviour of Man Murdering Demons shielding their comrade, which Zurvan points out with a cynical laugh, while the buttler doesn't answer. It seems the two maids are safe, as they are regenerating, but if Munsarat had ignored the previous attack, he'd had been finished off. Magsarion and Zurvan possess the same power, one that can annihilate even Man Murdering Demons. Based on that fact, they might be able to eliminate Munsarat. It was not Star Spirit Divine Blessing, he hadn't felt any signs of it being used. It could have been Power of the Ego, but it wasn't that either because, even if Archdemons and Special Class Daeva could kill Man Murdering Demons through it, Ashavan cannot use Power of the Ego in the first place, it'd be like asking a fish to fly in the air, and that both of these people are exceptions to that rule is far too unrealistic. Therefore, the possible answers to this riddle have been reduced to one, and Munsarat cannot help but be amazed. It is the result of a Commandment, he doesn't know its bindings, but it allows the to kill even Man Murdering Demons. Munsarat keeps the respect up, evaluating that he had underestimated his master's guests of honor. As a way of apologizing, he decides to show them one of his hands to play: his Commandment, asking if they know of it. Zurvan mockingly says all the old Yazata know, it's basically that he's a slave. While telling him he's correct, Munsarat begins to make his saw reduce its speed, till it stops completely... but this can only be the calm before the storm.

>>22768377
Munsarat has two Commandments. He can't tell them about one of them, but he can about the one Zurvan knows about. Basically, its binding makes him swear absolute loyalty to, and revere as his master whoever defeats him in battle. Just then, the sound of Magsarion's angry teeth greating comes from the interior of his helmet, making Munsarat's smile deepen. Munsarat's Commandment was one of obedience, similar to Quinn's, with an order of precedence to not let any contradictions arise. The one whose orders take the most priority is the lastest person to defeat Munsarat, who's obviously Frederica as of now, but she had only recently taken that position. Someone had managed to defeat this Man Murdering Demon some 20 years ago, but as he couldn't be killed, this person sealed him instead. There's no need to say who it was: no one but Varhram, who ordered him to sleep forever, but now Frederica's orders take precedence. As he says this, his saw begins rotation in the opposite direction it had been rotating till now. Frederica's order was clear: to tend to the Man Murdering Demons, therefore, Munsarat must protect those maids. Munsarat swings his saw down, as if it were a guillotine. This blow's power is far superior to anything that came before, easily surpassing Frederica's Quartz Palace/Arzhang annihilating blow. This falling tornado rips the earth asunder while advancing, swallowing everything in its path, and both of the Yazata couldn't escape from it, being mixed in with Power of the Ego capable of reducing even a mountain range to elementary particles. Whether it was their Commandments, or something else altogether that saved them, it is a miracle their bodies are still in one piece after that. But that's their limit, they won't be able to escape from it on their own anymore. All of this had been a result of injuring two maids in Munsarat's presence. After checking his subordinates' safety, Munsarat says they shall go to where Frederica is.

>>22768381
For the purpose of protecting his loved brethren, Munsarat is able to display infinite power, such is the result born of the order given by the 4th Rank Archdemon to her faithful servant. Nearly all of Arzhang's inhabitants have already been killed, they just need to kill a few more Yazata, and their feast will end, signaling their return to the Garden. So... now they will proceed to offer a respectful funeral. However, Frederica, who was near the place, had her hair messed up by her butler's saw tornado. Knowing it is him who caused the phenomenon, she frowns, her cheeks swelling, and with a mere gloomy glance towards it, the enormous circular saw dissappeared, as if apologizing. The resulting shockwave blows away all in the place except for Frederica... thus, the series of fights was settled by the most unexpected thing ever. Once the sand cloud disssappears, the Yazata were lying in the previous location of the Quartz Palace, on the verge of death: Quinn, Ferdows, Samruhk, Zurvan and Magsarion. Alma was barely better than they were, her wounds weren't nothing to scoff at. Munsarat, having caused his master to get angry, plans to make up by moderately hurting then offering her the most healthy prey in sight, as if he were some kind of chef. Alma, realizing what's about to happen, adquires a gloomy expresion while looking at the fallen Magsarion and Zurvan... but specially at the former. The daemonic armor is crawling on the ground like a worm, still refusing to give up even though he's in such a state. Therefore, without losing resolve and clutching on to her memories, Alma addresses her childhood friend, a bitter smile on her face, telling him it's okay if he lies down, for a change, as she won't allow him to lose. However, the Wicked Yazata doesn't even lend an ear to this woman's passionate voice, and begins to stand up, stained in blood, like a broken machine. Zurvan joins their conversation, and without care for Alma's cold tone nor for the fact that he's on the verge of death, he takes out a cigarette and begins smoking. Alma was about to pull her riskiest move yet, but she couldn't hesitate now.

>>22768386
Even Zurvan trusts whatever she's up to. Silent, and with her eyes closed, Alma rises her head to the sky, as if praying. Not even the gathering Man Murdering Demons are able to disrupt her concentration. Munsarat, busy speaking to his master, was too slow in realizing what was going on, to realize how Alma was calling upon another existence for help... she was calling on Kaikhosru.

This was the Yazata's trump card, the extent of Alma's devotion/resolution. The sound of Kaikhosru's throat, sitting on his mountain of treasures, is heard. Alma's courage, determination, etc... her shine stirs him up. Alma is not begging, but ordering Kaikhosru to save her and her friends. Indeed, Kaikhosru thinks she's a damn fine treasure... a damn fine woman, Kaikhosru's reaction is as if falling in love yet again with her. For this gamble to take effect, of course, it helped that Quinn dragged out Frederica's true power and Zurvan kept damaging Arzhang and its people. Everything on Zahhak is Kaikhosru's property, and he won't let it be freely squandered... to the point where the situation might come to two Archdemons striking each other down. Kaikhosru himself had endured his entrails boiling due to some lowly Man Murdering Demons wasting his property just for the sake of Alma having to implore his help. No woman has troubled Kaikhosru so much since Dragon Jewel, and he declares their little "courting game" to be a draw, so he abides by her request, claiming the lowlifes who dared hurt his Mistress will know his Dragon's Kamui. One of Frederica's maids, named Sheereen, was the first to notice something happening: there was "something" hiding behind the thunderclouds in the sky. At first, she thought it might be a natural satellite, a very common celestial body in human-inhabited planets that's usually called a "moon". It was not a single one, though. What she could see next were 4 circles arranged just like an inverted isosceles trapecium... as if they were pupils. Then scales became visible, then whiskers, then a mane, then horns and fangs.

>>22768390
Only this thing's head filled the entirety of the sky, overlooking them from the heavens. What the maid so at first wasn't a moon, it was a pupil. Thing had 4 rainbow coloured, fiery eyes, its looks being beautiful, yet terrible. There's only a word that can be used to describe such an existence, God.

From his mouth, a golden aurora was released, falling upon those Man Murdering Demons crawling on the ground: Dragon Breath. It was his authority as a Star Spirit, not allowing any resistance. All beings who've breathed this planet's air, stood on its ground, are made Kaikhosru's property, and cannot oppose the will of their king. And not even immortal existences are an exception. The maids, beginning with Sheereen, are all turned into precious stones. Though sealing techniques are the most effective way to rein in Man Murdering Demons, this is backed by an Archdemon's Power of the Ego, so they stand absolutely no chance, and they are all one shotted. It doesn't matter if there are person who can slow down the effect of Kaikhosru's authority, in the end it won't matter. Even Munsarat, upon receiving the still uninterrupted Dragon's judgement, has had a 40% of his body turned into black diamond already. He can't go against Kaikhosru's will and won't stop himself from totally turning into a jewel, even while drawing on the power to protect his brethren. Frederica orders Munsarat to get everyone out, as if they leave Zahhak, there might be hope for restoration. Half her face has changed into ruby by now. Empowered by his master's order, Munsarat starts evacuating the maids. Frederica's skin and dress have all turned into ruby the time Munsarat starts acting. She now sweetly smiles and says how much she admires "Kaikhosru-oniisama". Though the dragon feels sick just from hearing it, Frederica is not lying. She is unable to stop her gradual transformation, and would completely turn into ruby in several dozens of seconds.

>>22768398
However, this is more than enough because in that time, Archdemons can repeat fights tens of thousands of times. She sweetly says that her younger sister is gonna get back at him, and sinks her arm into space, recovering from the Garden the one weapon symbolizing her very being, much like her butler did previously. Given she can't get rid of Kaikhosru's authority, she will just have to kill him first. The weapon she picks is a scythe akin to that of the Reaper, which appears together with a scream capable of twisting dimensions: the same weapon that the true Marika had been carrying, and which caused Quinn and co so much fear by itself. This is a peerless weapon that allows Frederica's true power to be shown. With this weapon, she is effectively able to ignore her opponent's huge size and the distance that separates them, and thanks to the full power of the Princess of Slaughter's Power of the Ego, it can even bisect a star in a single blow.

However, their clash impeding, Magsarion gets up (he gets described as a remorseless (Muzan) man running through a wasteland of slaughter) and charges up an Alastor, breaking through the Covetous Dragon's aurora and piercing the 4th Rank Archdemon. Due to the black knight ramming Frederica at super high speeds, her body explodes, her ruby-fied blood falling like diamond dust. Frederica's head, fluttering around in the air, dumbfounded, mutters "You...". That moment, the empty little girl had forgotten even her killing intent. She was too confused, a Yazata reckless enough to break into a fight between two Archdemons? It was something that seemingly ignored even the laws coming from heaven. It was seemingly the height of stupidity, thus extremely gruesome. Frederica can only say it is lovely.

>>22768408
Her eyes were tear choked. Inmediately, she regenerates up to her clothes and, flashing her finest smiles, turns to face the bloodstained Wicked Yazata, asking for his name while introducing herself. However, the day dreaming little girl's romantic scene was broken by a lump of iron, rusted with blood, as Magsarion shouts at her something akin to THE FUCK ARE YOU LAUGHING AT?? Did this filthy creature think of killing each other as some kind of... dance? He hit Frederica's face with his sword from the side, he wouldn't honour her by announcing his name. Enraged, he, akin to a fierce god, deals numerous swords blows to the little girl, chopping her into pieces. He was a storm of rage, curses and hatred that, in the case she regenerated 1,000,000 times, would kill her another 10,000,000,000 times. Turning into a black storm, Magsarion destroys the Princess of Slaughter with bottomless wicked spirit, stating he just thinks of her as being trash. Covered in blood and nearing his limit, he overlaps an absurd number of Star Spirit Divine Blessings on himself: 4 uses of Fravard, and 2 of Sewatir, just for the sake of exceeding the speed of his enemy's regeneration in terms of how fast he can swing his sword. As a side effect, right now, Magsarion was so frail and fragile that he'd may die if hit by a simple pebble. Although his armor's daemonic nature was acting as support, each strike of his swords teared his muscles. Cracked his bones. Crushed his internal organs. But he wouldn't stop, ever. Such concept wasn't part of his vocabulary. And with a remorseless (again, Muzan) world-shaking shout, he tells Frederica to die while despairing, in pain and shouting in repentance. He was absolutely insane, a dark sun that extinguishes all things in Creation.

>>22768413
Frederica couldn't look away from his shine, she found it way too dazzling. What a beautiful, gorgeous gentleman, she says. This is what it meant to tremble from sheer excitement? For the first time since she was born, she had been moved by an attack... thus, the 4th Rank Archdemon was reborn, as a woman, as a true lady. She wasn't empty, nor hollow, anymore. For she had known passion. An undying miracle had transpired, she now craved to keep dancing with her chosen man till the very end. What to call this, but paradise? And then Frederica confesses to Magsarion. In just a single moment, Frederica completely regenerated, brandishing her scythe of grief. Thus, her Archdemon Power of the Ego surged like never before, a sweet yet violent blaze, as if a display of her feelings it were. The time of truth was here and now. Her soul's throb wouldn't die off, even if the world were to perish.

PoV change... though it is the same scene. Quinn awakens (she had been unconsciouss since Frederica's glance's explosion), sharp pain running through her entire body. Alma inmediately orders her not to move, as she's way too injured, and she might die for real. They all have used nearly all of their feathers, only a few left. As an emergency procedure, Alma proposes going back to Wahman Yast at once. Quinn is absolutely confused, about whether they've won, or if it is even possible to return. Thinking they've indeed won, Quinn thanks Alma for her work, but she says she hasn't done all that much. From Alma's words, Quinn guesses something's amiss and tries to check on her surroundings, even though it is hard for her to even move her head. And she can only see a single man standing in the wasteland, his back turned to them: Magsarion. He's angry, his rage is bigger than any Quinn has ever seen, or more accurately, of a different kind from what Quinn has ever seen.

>>22768416

He is shaking from humilliation, much like if he had been defeated. But see, they are still alive, so what... Zurvan, who was sitting next to Alma, a cigarette in his mouth, was looking at the sky. Then he says, apathetically, that Kaikhosru's gone. This star's, Zahhak's, master has vanished. But of course, he's not dead and remains living, so does the princess of the Man Murdering Demons. Alma tells Quinn just enough to understand, this about a Gathas, a gathering of the Seven Archdemons that's very irregularly held, and it is often said they cannot refuse the calling to attend. This is too good a coincidence to indeed be one, and Quinn feels there was some kind of intent behind the Gathas' timing. Quinn is told what happened, of Kaikhosru and Frederica's square off, and of Magsarion's interference, by Zurvan. Thus, the summoning for the Gathas ensued, and the whole affair was left inconclusive. Thus, Magsarion's humiliation, his prey had slipped in between his hands, he didn't lose, but he also didn't win. At any rate, Alma says they'll return to Wahman Yast, and also says Zurvan is not getting away from carrying Samruhk and Ferdows with him, and has to endure his bitching before telling him to stop the bullshit, as he has the most feathers out of them all. While she hears all of this, Quinn's attention shifts to Magsarion, who's standing still, doing nothing, as if he were preparing to run after his opponent. In fact, he'd like to do so. Anger kept swelling inside him, he wasn't pleased, and he wouldn't ever forgive his enemies, he'd kill every single one of them. Quinn's sorry, but she couldn't be happier. Everyone's safe, and Magsarion is alive... For Quinn, all of them being alive was the greatest miracle of all.

>>22768416
Finally, last PoV change. We are getting there, slowly. This was a strange space, airtightness was extremely high, to the point it could be said to be life threatening. However, it wasn't some enclosed secret room. It was more refined than any palace, possessed of a dignified atmosphere that wouldn't allow any but those chosen great men to enter. The interior's weirdness was difficult to explain: sharp pointed and streamlined designs were combined, and it wasn't clear if the walls and floor were made of metal or of stone. A structure like this one doesn't exist in any other place, anyone from this age who saw it wouldn't be able to explain. In other words, it doesn't come from this civilization, but from one whose level and direction were completely different. It was a crystalization of super developed science and technology, a space built under the precepts of reason. There was no place for vague concepts such as miracles or magic here. It was created in a different time, in a different Shinza, but for some reason it became a Singularity drilled on this world. It was universe voyaging ship called Angra Mainyu, the castle of the 2nd Rank Archdemon. Soon, a sweet voice addresses Frederica, asking what's made her so angry. In the room's center, there was single table, surrounded by chairs, all of it made from unknown materials and with wonderful designs. Two women sat at the table currently, there were other 5 vacant seats from a grand total of 7. One of the women was a blonde little girl with swollen cheeks and down looking face, while the other one... just tells Frederica that she can't read minds nor understand silence, so she'll have to speak, and Frederica just says this woman is a cruel person, addressing her as Nadare-oneesama, the Gathas' host. To Frederica's response, she can only laugh. Frederica asks her what's so funny, she's simply angry. Nadare, turning to the indignated Frederica, just stretched her right hand, drenched in lusterless black, as if Hell itself were swirling inside it. Lovingly, Nadare tells her that if Frederica thinks she forcibly summoned her, she's mistaken, to Frederica's surprise. Now, as if to get the 4th Rank Archdemon to calm down, she stretches her left hand, this one being stainless white, as if it were nothingness itself.

>>22768454
She was the 2nd Rank Archdemon, Nadare. Certainly, a woman of fantastical appearence. In terms of age, she looks as if she were in her mid 20s. She was neither tall nor short, and she didn't have horns nor tails, but a human wouldn't be able to live with such conflicting attributes coexisting. She had soft long hair, cleanly divided into black and white tufts. She had friendly, laughing eyes, but in her right one the cornea (black) and cojuntiva (white) were inverted, producing beyond special heterochromia. Even her clothes were completely monotone. In her, shining nothingness and pitch black darkness were in conflict, yet in harmony with each other. Is her appearence a treason towards the Law of Dualism, or rather, is it its very embodiment? Her sight produces anxiety, as if her unnaturality were quite capable of making common sense, which was the world's foundation, to collapse. And yet, she was beautiful. Before her, Frederica looked like a mere kitten. Seeing there's no helping it, and that last time she met Frederica she was nothing but a baby, Nadare explains the situation again. First, no one knows of the Gathas' timing, and they can't refuse its beckoning. Second, fighting during Gathas is useless, because no matter what they do, none of them will die. Third, place is Singularity by tradition, seemingly from before Nadare herself was even born. Fourth, Frederica's accusation towards Nadare was wrong. And fifth, if Frederica's understood all... let's have a cup of tea! Frederica turns her face away, as she's still plenty angry, couple by the fact that it is a Man Murdering Demon rule that she can't drink a plant's extract. Nadare just tells her to cheer up and enjoy life in her own words, and looks at her with a tender face and a smile full of love, even though she's an Absolute Evil whose age exceeds a 1,000 years. Nadare is honestly worried about Frederica, but now she's relieved... because now Frederica looks so cute. Just like an older sister poking fun at her younger sister, Nadare pokes Frederica's cheek, before saying that maybe she has fallen in love, to the younger Archdemon's confusion.

>>22768454
Though she's having fun at teasing Frederica, Nadare turns around to receive their new visitor, addressing him in a relaxed tone while asking how he's doing... but she couldn't finish her line. With a roaring sound, comes a terrific impact and destruction, and the sitting Nadare's form dissappears. The visitor's identity, whom Nadare greeted, is Bhavan, and what's happened is pretty clear, even if too strange. Existence negation, annihilation, or possibly a manifestation of death... what happened doesn't have shit to do with those smart sounding quibbles. It was pure physical power, that very much breaks the target into atoms. Furthermore, the act didn't affect Frederica in the slightest. The little girl doesn't see, nor recognize, the person standing in front of her eyes, therefore the bell for the start of the fight won't ring. Nadare's voice sounds, saying that no matter how much time passes, Bhavan just doesn't change, with a non fake loving tone. All her particles coalesce, and she's back, as good as ever (chair regenerated, too). Regeneration capable of atomic reconstruction, however it wasn't Nadare's own power: as she said before, it is due to the Gathas' laws. Bhavan's voice was low, yet ardent. He was taller than 2 metres, an embodiment of Aeshma clad in armor of muscle. While his hair and eyes flicker like flames, the 3rd Rank Archdemon hardens his grip, powerful enough to smash stars to pieces, and at the same time, his completely out of the norm Power of the Ego flares. Letting a war cry aloud, the man possessed of the dream of being the strongest walks. Despite Nadare telling him it's no use, he punches and breaks her apart again. The blow was even stronger, more violent and explosive, than the previous one. Bhavan doesn't spare any of his full power, he's an existence aspiring to always surpass his previous self. If there are things in this world that cannot be defeated, he swears to defeat them himself. He's a fighting monster that has been increasing his power since the moment he was born, with no rest. In his current condition, he can't break the laws of the Gathas, but there might be some day he does. Nadare laughs, no hint of maliciousness in it. She praises the man's simplicity, and even encourages his perseverance. Inevitably, they repeat this endless destruction and regeneration show...

>>22768469
Suddenly, someone calls them idiots, saying they want to live quickly, so they should better quit socializing. It was a woman who said it, a very sensible opinion in such a place devoid of common sense. Her appearence is doll-like. She was wearing a strange native dress with an elegant pattern, her silhoutte didn't ondulate, and her pose was so needlessly perfect that she looked like a column from head to toes. In other words, she was akin to a simple doll with a cylindrical body and a round head attached at the top. Or perhaps, more like a tree. There's no ounce of movement in her beautiful face, making any onlooker suspect that it is nothing but a mask. This unmoving woman standing right behind Frederica is the 5th Rank Archdemon, Mashyana. She talks, yet she doesn't move her mouth, she doesn't even blink. Its impure stasis gives off the impression of a deathmask. Next up, telling Mashyana and Bhavan to listen, Frederica announces that she has fallen in love. Grabbing the scythe that just appeared in her hand, and with one single spin, she turns Mashyana into mincemeat, and launches herself at Bhavan, who till now had just been striking Nadare. But then Frederica explodes, just from getting hit by her "older brother's" backhand fist, but she instantly regenerates and sinks her scythe into his muscles of steel, has her head blown off but it regenerates again. The regenerated Mashyana, still with an iron mask-like unmoving expression, is furious, even though her face doesn't show it... but her flaring, daemon-like Power of the Ego reveals her true state of mind. She can't even finish a sentence before Bhavan's fist strikes her, blowing off her body's upper half. With force capable of revealing her true nature as a Star Spirit, the 5th Rank Archdemon roars, insulting Bhavan calling him locust, while he boasts about his strength... and Frederica just wants the two to listen to her. Meanwhile, the now regenerated Nadare just looks at the show lovingly.

>>22768481
Kaikhosru then finally shows up, and Nadare asks if he's gonna join in, but the Covetous Dragon doesn't want contagion of their stupidity, with a "I'm fed up" expression on his face. He arrongantly puts his feet on the table and continues talking. He says it'd be useless trying to kill each other, and he doesn't do stuff for no gain at all. These words were very Kaikhosru-like, and he indeed was right. Right now, the 6th Rank Archdemon is the only one not a target to Bhavan's blows. While being in the same room as the 3rd Rank Archdemon, who'd crack down on anyone if mutual recognition happened, he was like a complete outsider. Though he's in his field of vision, Bhavan's completely out of Kaikhosru's consciousness... he doesn't give a fuck about Bhavan, he completely ignores his power and presence. Nadare realizes Kaikhosru must be busy with some scheme, and wholeheartedly wishes him good luck. Nadare smiles at Kaikhosru, and even he, with all his experience with women, is weak to her smile. Like a kid that's had to deal with a crazy mother. Still, Nadare urges him to persevere, saying she loves them all dearly, and just wants their happiness and their wishes to come true. She even encourages Kaikhosru's greed. That's the kind of woman Nadare is, the other's everything is top priority for her. Kaikhosru then asks of Khvarenah's whereabouts, and whether he's coming, to which Nadare answers he's troubled, calling Khvarenah "that child". There's no other person capable of calling the Workshop of Destruction "that child" other than Nadare. Then she said something unbelievable: despite appearences, Khvarenah was a lovely child in the olden days. The topic disgusts Kaikhosru, who just turns his face away. Only one missing from the chopping board is the 7th Ranked Archdemon, Aka Manah, but Kaikhosru felt no need to talk about him. It's not that he's underestimating him, rather he thinks his topic is extremely important thus, he's holding it back. He doesn't know what Nadare and the other Archdemons think but, as far as Kaikhosru is concerned, Aka Manah is a true wild card, a joker. Contact with him shouldn't be carelessly established, nor should the topic be touched... till the time comes. Till conviction that this stupid universe's death has started.

>>22768488
Nadare then says some cryptic words: Khvarenah is too pure. He's forgotten what he was looking for but, once he remembers it, he'll turn into a true miracle, and will need a vessel. With airs of solemnity, she closes her eyes as if praying, and asks for a blessing to all her loved ones, while calling herself "Everyone's Nadare (Houkai)". This words do carry heavy weight for, if the Ultimate Good is "everyone's hero", the Ultimate Evil might be "everyone's Archdemon". At the same time, a single man restlessly walks through the inside of Angra Mainyu. He was dressed in dazzling fine clothes, time around him stopped, it was as if space around him was being torn off. He gave off brilliance akin to the sculpture of a god of beauty. He has blond hair and crimson eyes, and is wearing a divine robe made of dozens of condensed galaxies, its shiny not being favourably comparable to his beauty. This is the 1st Ranked Archdemon, Khvarenah... the Workshop of Destruction's true form, the existence acting as the soul of the Star Cluster of Extinction. As he only appears in this form during Gathas, no ordinary Yazata know of it, not even his daughter Quinn knows of the true Khvarenah. However, concealing this is not grounded upon wanting to hide some weakness. His Star Body and his Soul Body have different kinds of strengths, but dealing with the latter seems preferable to dealing with the transcendentally big former one, as defeating that one would take a true miracle. However, a Star Spirit as large as himself is not something that you can take care of by merely destroying his nucleus. Were this to happen, if his soul died, he'd lose his creation powers as the Workshop of Destruction, remaining as the Star Cluster of Extinction, bottomless hunger included. Eliminating his intelligence would only result in the birth of an atrocious daemonic beast, which would accelerate the universe's road towards nothingness. Thus, it is hard to say it is for the sake of self protection, Khvarenah doesn't even recognize the existence of his Soul Body in the first place. His Star Body is currently devoid of intelligence or ability for rational thought, in fact, while he stays in this form. He suddenly rips his robe off him, and wonders what is it that he and everyone was looking for/desired... but he doesn't know. Only such thoughts comprised the current Workshop of Destruction.

Ogre. Fuck captcha and fuck Hiro.

Plsi upload new chapteri.

What’s Power if Ego, again?

>>22768295
>superfast regen
>attacking people with corpses
>innocent bloodlust
She reminds me of Shreiber.

>>22768795
Power of the Ego (我力):

Special power wielded by high ranking Daeva. Literally, the ability to forcibly bring about absurd phenomena through the ego's strength. Strength of will that trascends the laws of physics. It makes it possible to strengthen physical attributes such as offense and defense, speed, or regeneration power, even actions that twist the world's form become possible. Though it is a supernatural power different from Commandments, Power of the Ego and Commandments can be combined to produce synergy. That is, Power of the Ego can be used to strengthen Commandments. Because it is a power that finds its source in one's prejudices and selfishness, it is not suited for Ashavan. Reversely, the specialty of the side of Good, namely the power to concentrate the thoughts of several people for the sake of another's prayers is not suited for Dragvant. This is an expression of the differences in acting among the two sides. Currently, the user of the stronger Power of the Ego is the 3rd Rank Archdemon, Bhavan.

>>22768818
So it’s like a quasi-Gudou phenomenon?

>>22768867
It's more like a pseudo ber'iah, they can literally twist the world to however they see fit.

>>22768464
That descroption oozes Sensory, reminds me way too much of how merc was described.
No way this isn't Mithra.

>>22768511
>>22759578
>>22762157

fucking kys

>>22770071
That's mean, bro...

>>22770071
Edgy. What will you do if I buy the finished LN when it's out and instantly scan it?

Just to dab on you, you know.

>>22773535
Then buy it retard

>>22773535
Thanks for supporting Masada with your hard earned money.

When Vera makes Know a cyborg does she use during story cyberpunk technology or 3000 years ago Sodom 魔導科学 technology?

>>22774563
Get dabbed on, support cuck.

First option, it's not like Know's equipment is anything unique aside from Imitation Deathscythe and that's Lilith's invention. Those kanji refer to Satanel's inventions.

>>22773535
You will be a true hero.

Let's take a moment to appreciate the cutest, most loving girl in Shinza.

>>22776693
Sure
Quinn was pretty great this chapter and I'm looking forward to seeing how she grows in the chapters to come! Hopefully into a sword too!

>>22779276
Is that Isaak?

>>22780533
that's Quinn

Btw was there an illustration of Angra Mainyu and/or the tea party this chapter?

>>22781461
Nope.

>>22755134
This is your new Throne God.

>>22770988

How was pic related in the previous thrones?

EditAnon here! Just wanted to post a quick one.
I have KKK and IkaBey variants as well.

>>22784811

>>22784811

Lads...

Say, if Tentsui is a thing, could some sort of reverse Tentsui be also possible, going from evil to good? Has anything hinted at such a possibility?

>>22786756
>going from evil to good?
That's what tentsui is. It goes both ways.

Since Avesta's first LN volume is going to come out next comiket, maybe Steiner could try and sweet-talk his buddies at J-novel Club for a possible official localization; he is a Shinza fan, after all. A shame he probably doesn't come here anymore, nor answer questions from his curiouscat.

Here's another edit! I will be away for a bit, so I'm posting it now.

Can't believe Mithra wants to steal THIS from Kouha's otouto...

>>22792441
Whom?

>>22791364
Nice. Thanks editanon.

>>22795451
Glad you liked it Anon!

>>22792441
>somewhere stuck in the Throne, Ren screams internally

>>22792441
>somewhere stuck in a cat plushie, Kouha screams internally

Lore dump soon. Who or what will it be about?

>>22799441
I want more on the demon kings.

>>22799441
Probably Nadare, tea party, angra mainyu or something

>>22799441
maybe an illustration of his dragon form

Frederica immortality commandment confirmed

>これは神座という大きな歴史の中でも最高域の不死性で、
>The virgin Gladsheimr
The day of Reinhard's power creep

>>22801548
Looks more like the Asura realm to me.
t. Trifa

Okay, time to summarize today's glossary:

Archdemon Frederica:
One of the 7 Seven Absolute Evils existing in this world.

Holding the nickname of Princess of Slaughter, she's an immortal little girl who reigns as the epitome of man killers. She is a demon child, born as a Archdemon while both of her parents were renowned Ashavan, a true monster whose self and killing intent had a awakened since the time she was a fetus. She killed and devoured her own mother, and even today, she lives as a Man Murdering Demon while using her family home as her headquarters. Despite being the youngest Archdemon, her pace at accumulating misdeeds is terrific, the damage she's dealt to Ashavan worlds in just a matter of a few decades ranks 3rd, next to the damage occassionated by Khvarenah and Bhavan. When taking it all into account, she's ranked 4th amongst the Archdemons, but in terms of mere kill count she's managed to annihilate multiple human societies.

Nonetheless, she doesn't feel proud for it at all, being an existence lavishing only in empty killing intent, neither feeling joy nor sorrow. However recently, signs of a change have come in sight. Frederica's thoughts towards Magsarion, will they make her grow into adulthood, or do they stand for her degradation? How will this influence the fight between Good and Evil is still unknown at large, as of now.

Zamyad Yast:
Munsarat's Commandment. In exchange for the binding of "Submission towards the most dazzling existence, among those that have defeated oneself", his boon will be "Big power increase through his master's orders". In short, it is a Commandment of the same kind as Quinn's, however, because of the difference of only abiding by the opponent who's managed to charm him, risks appear for the fixed instruction giving side.

That is, for example, towards orders of high strength such as "commit suicide" or "ignore your Avesta", a "rebounding gale" will ensue, and the one giving orders will be made to pay a price in some form. In reverse, as long as he can understand it, no matter what kind of order it is, Munsarat will fulfill it. From the fact that in a way, master and servant become one in body and soul, it becomes possible for Munsarat to understand the current state of the person he's designated as his master remotely. From Munsarat's own words, it appears as if he knew of the event coiling around Varhram's death, and it only means that at the time, he abided by Varhram.

The Man Murdering Demon, having received from the Hero the order of "eternal slumber", was sealed in a holy ground. Was the fact that the daughter of the family who ruled said land was born as an Archdemon merely a prank from fate, or was it the "rebounding gale"? Even Munsarat himself doesn't know the answer.

Killer Queen:
Frederica's Commandment. In the exchange for the binding of "Neither dodging or defending against any attacks the opponent might employ", her boon will be "Immortality, as long as she abides by the binding". Originally, Man Murdering Demons possess strong immortality, however, their queen Frederica, through the use of this Commandment, surpasses said immortality degree by an order of magnitude.

This is the highest level of immortality within the long story of Shinza, and as a matter of fact, a power capable of killing her doesn't exist.

Gathas:
Irregularly held gathering of the Archdemons. No one is capable of finding any semblance of regularity in its summoning pace, as they can happen in a decade, or in a millennium. In addition, the laws concerning the gathering are these ones:

Meeting place is Singularity Angra Mainyu.
Because the Archdemons are forcibly teleported to the meeting place, refusing the call is impossible.
In the context of a gathering, no one can die nor be killed.
The time it will take to dissolve the gathering will be of a few days if lengthy, or a few hours if quick.
Regarding all of the above, the Archdemons' wills do not matter in the slightest, as they lay in an area that exceeds their power.
In a way, these are the strongest, yet most mysterious old laws in this world. Even Nadare, who is the oldest Archdemon, doesn't understand the Gathas' origin and purpose.

No new art today?

>>22802258
>he abided by Varhram
Wait, WHAT?

It's not even a reveal, Chapter 4 part 2 already revealed Varhram was Munsarat's previous master.

Been kinda sleeping on it, who are all the VA's confirmed so far?

>>22802270
>refusing the call is impossible
What about Aka Manah, though?

>>22802749
Sorry lad, nobody posts the chapters anymore, so. Guess I have no choice but to swallow my pride and go for the summaries.

>>22802855
That's why it's strange and we know shit about it.

>>22802265
>Killer Queen
Is that...?

>>22802270
>Even Nadare
So, it's she fucking around, didn't she get the full info like Karl or she isn't a sensory?

>>22803319
WE
DON'T
KNOW

>Mamiko Noto is Frederica
What the fuck how could Masada do this. The fucking madman

>>22802258
>Submission towards the most dazzling existence, among those that have defeated oneself
What if he were to consider himself the most dazzling existence after beating himself up?

>>22802265
>Killer Queen
>no gunpowder or gelatin
>no dynamite with a laser beam
Not mindblowing.

When Mags uses 4 Fravard and 2 Sewatir to surpass Frederica's regen speed, does he succeed at doing so?

>pan-kun is already sick of this shit
Another one loses their nichijou

>>22803712
Wouldn't the simplest solution be to do some mental or otherwise non-directly damaging attack to her? She can't dodge it without breaking her ability and her immortality wouldn't fix it if she doesn't dodge it.

>>22803740
I would assume the fact that she's an empty shell would limit the effects of any mental or psychological attacks on her

>>22803755
>empty shell
she's on the muzan moebuta train alongside alma, quinn, zurvan and ferws and this train's only going to get more passengers as time goes on

>>22803760
Okay, "was" an empty shell

>>22803755
Still extremely vulnerable. It could be something affecting her senses or her ability to think clearly. A mental attack could be inflicting some mental-function disorder.

>>22803755
>I would assume the fact that she's an empty shell would limit the effects of any mental or psychological attacks on her
Since when were you under the impression that mass hallucinations making her confused allies for enemies or unable to even recognize her enemies wouldn't be perfect?

>>22803791
She'd literally just Ego out of it, though even if you do get her attacking allies she probably wouldn't care since she exclusively cares about Muzan as an existence. Undoing the hallucination with her friens dead around her would probably prompt a shrug.

If Wilhelm used his briah on Frederica, would he become fundamentally immortal for the duration of the fight like how he got Schrieber speed in their duel? Sounds like a never ending fight. Which I guess would be ironic since his feelings with the OTHER Mamiko Noto girl in this franchise are also unending.

>>22803803
>She'd literally just Ego out of it,
Since when was she under the impression she broke out of it instead of still being trapped in an illusion?

>>22803846
i clapped, thank you mr kubo

>>22803803
Wouldn't it be better to fool her into believing some move didn't work, only for it to have put her into some mental hallucination world where she doesn't even know her real body is standing completely still outside?

>>22803816 #

Not how it works. Wilhelm in his fight absorbed Schreiber's energy which buffs him all around, it's not a stat steal. It's just Schreiber's raw kinetic energy buffing Bey all around including his speed. Now, if his Kyuudan worked on her... wouldn't like Seijuurou from Senshinkan meeting her.

>>22803722
>that thigh peek
MUH

>>22803722
Is Hirume open to polygamy? It's going to end in tears, otherwise.

>>22803722
>why my sister a cat
>why is does this chick keep doing outlandish poses
>what even is a shinza
>my feet hurt
>i wanna go back to school
him and ren are gonna get on great

>>22804486
Edit anon, you know what to do if we get clean scans.

>>22804616
I probably do, but there is no way I'll remember. So if we do get a clean scan, remind me.

>>22802265

>This is the highest level of immortality within the long story of Shinza, and as a matter of fact, a power capable of killing her doesn't exist.

Would this include post-emanation Gladsheimr? and also would Machina's Briah work on her?

>>22805575
Mithra=>Rein: You're welcome to test out her immortality.
Rein=>Mithra: Even my army can't beat her? That's very interesting.
From pantheon prologue

>>22805575

Saoshyant Desatir had Mithra say this immortality is only the best from the perspective of humans, anything from Gods is straight away out.

>>22805773

Nope, only existence of this Commandment was talked about, who it belonged to was not mentioned. Mithra said Ougon hadn't precisely invented immortality and that this Commandment provided best immortality out of all eras, from the perspective of humans of course.

Ougon went OOOH an opponent for my fangs? I'm eager to put this immortality to test. And asked Muzan if this was his Commandment, Muzan answered it was not.

>つまり真我殿の戒律は、核心について話してはならない。といったところかな？
>分からん。俺が知る限り、この女はいつもこうだ。本音というものが見えん
I'm kinda interested, why does Muzan talk as if he had known Mithra for quite some time? At best, they should have interacted for a few minutes before he killed her. Something to look forward to in Avesta, I guess.

>>22804616
I assume it's something similar to this.

>>22805913
Would be better if we had the actual sprites from the game, with different expressions and all, but I quite like this one. But no, it's a bit different. I'll tell you the details when we get clean scans (if at all).

>>22805929
I agree completely. Though MCs rarely have sprites. Tracking Ren's sprites was a nightmare. Glad you still liked it though Anon.

>>22805849
I never said they mentioned who it belonged to? Also
私の爪牙たちでも敵わんと？　それは興味深い話を聞いた

In KKK, how does Habaki compare to Ryuumei in a fight? Is he noticeably weaker?

>>22805913
Perfect anon

>>22807860
Ryuumei manhandles him, yeah. At first in KKK she's the Eastern Expedition's strongest member with the exception of Yakou.

>>22807979
How does Ryuumei fight outside of her Shura Mandala? i know she uses some art of Yin, onmyoudou stuff but like, how do her fights "look" like?

>>22759222
guillotine yourself

>>22807860
He mentions the fact that he has a fulfilling relationship with his wife and daughter and his enemy collapses in tears.

>>22802806
Quinn - Tanezaki Atsumi
Magsarion - Itou Kentarou
Samluch - Chiwa Saitou
Ferdows - Fukuhara Ayaka
Zurvan - Maeda Takeshi
Arma - Kawaragi Shiho
Kaikhosru - Terashima Takuma
Frederica - Noto Mamiko
Moonsalad - Hatano Wataru

>>22802855
He/she is most likely in Angra Mainyu, but doesn't join the rest of them, just like Forge Dad.

>>22803319
Pretty sure that was a unique trait of Merc's sensories born from his craving. Yakou and Rindou in Kajiri took most of the game to realize their roles.

>>22803701
On another note, Frederica can be shortened as Freddie.

>>22810735
>Frederica - Noto Mamiko
Does it really fit, though? Unless Mamiko has better range than I give her credit for, I feel like a more high-pitched voice would suit Fred better.

>>22811377
It's just Masada's favoritism since he's a big fan of her.

>>22811403
I feel like Nadare would have been a better choice then

>>22811377
I mean, Fred's 20 years old. She might be a loli with a maturer sounding voice, befitting a true lady.
I just don't like how some seiyuu's are being recycled. I hope they have enough range to make them sound distinctive, but I'll trust in the voice direction which has been superb thus far

>>22811377
Despite the impression Frederica's artwork might give you, her speech is actually pretty polite, so I don't think it's that bad of a fit. Unless this uncanny contrast is part of Masada's intent, which is not unlikely.

>>22811409
If Nadare is Mithra's sensory she should have the same voice as her though.

>>22802265
So even Machina couldn't kill her? That's kind of lame.

>>22805874
Clearly it's because Mithra has a sensory on both sides, and Quinn is the sensory on the side of good though she doesn't know it yet.

>>22812227
Honestly, that's a question only Masada can answer right now. Let's just hope he does a QA in the future.

>>22812227
>>22812268
But, if I'm forced to say, Machina's Be'riah brings about the end, and technically, even she has an end, should she break her Commandment, so maybe you could work with that.

>>22812227
Immortal doesn't mean undeaftable, Machina can erase her commandmen, she would be frozen by Ren and Rein might instill so much fear in hear with his mere presence she dodges out of instinct, etc, There's quite a lot of workaround.

>>22812442
>dodges out of instinct
The only instincts Murder Demons possess is their killing intent and only to kill humans.

>>22813249
That's just because they have yet to witness Reinhard's long, thick and throbbing Longinuslanze.

>>22812442
>Machina can erase her Commandment
That we don't know, they seem to be Divine pledges backed by an Hadou God with no knowledge of her might and said God is unwilling to break hers.
>Frozen by fear
She's an empty being (well, not so empty anymore since falling in love with Magsarion) as a Murder Demon, she has nor feels no emotions or whatsoever.

>>22813249
>The only instincts Murder Demons possess is their killing intent and only to kill humans
Sounds like you didn't read the chapter at all
>振り下ろされたマグサリオンの大剣を、ムンサラートは本能的に大きく避けた。これまで通り余裕を持った動きではなく、受けてはいけないという危機感が反射的にそうさせたのだ
>Munsarat instinctively dodged Magsarion's downwards swing with great effort and without the same composure as he had done until now. His sense of danger told him that he must not take this blow, making him react by reflex

>>22813325
And we were talking about Fred, where in the chapter did she dodged anything throwed at her?

>>22813346
You were literally trying to use a blanket statement for the demons in general and I was just showing that it wasn't true.

>>22813361
And said chapter said the Munsarat is also not an empty Murder Demon like the rest either.

>>22813370
Fair enough I'll give you that, but Fred is no longer empty either.
We know she dies, but it's only a matter of seeing how. It would be better draw speculations until then.

>>22813295
>since falling in love with Magsarion
You know, ever since learning she was the youngest, spoiled princess of the Demon Kings from Masada's tweet, I had a feeling it would turn out like this.

>>22813625
Do we have an illustration of her yet?

>>22813683
Frederica? Just look at the OP pic.

>>22813683
Also here >>22756444

Bfarvan can't damage people who don't trigger his commandment even by accident because then he can't tell who was stronger?

>>22814690
Can you rephrase your sentence please?

>>22814904
I seem to be reading something about, Bfarvan can't touch Frederica even with his wind pressure from attacking Nadare before she recognizes him because then he can't tell who is stronger?

>>22814960
No anon, it's how his commandment works. They have to mutually recognise one another for the gong to ring. They have to meet, their eyes have to meet, they both have to recognise each other. Bfarvan thinks anything less than that would amount to a mere surprise attack. Even faced with an insect he has to continue as he as normal as in go all out and is driven to do crazy shit like that BECAUSE he can't tell who is stronger and is insane.
Fred didn't even see or recognise him since she was still in a daze after Nadare which is why she didn't get jumped until she jumped on him whilst he was in the processes of beating the shit out of nadare
There's nothing in the chapter which suggested he can't accidentally hit people in his vicinity and nothing about wind pressure

>>22815239
Ah i see, thanks for helping me. Just for reference my source was https://w.atwiki.jp/god14/pages/1354.html
一方、隣のフレデリカはまだ俺を意識していないので、風圧すら当てる事はできない。
無意識の内に殺してしまえば、どちらが最強か分からなくなるのだから・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・・

>>22815343
Actually I misremembered the chapter, yeah that actually is how it works. The part about surprise attack stands but he won't even inadvertently kill an insect because he then he won't be able to tell who is stronger. But the wind pressure was just added on by whoever wrote the article. My mistake anon

>>22815491
It's fine :)

Will anyone post a detailed summary of that Avesta Gaiden? How long is it? I know that they had a million Yazata, Nahid and her star spirits and Vahram and still got their ass kicked by forge dad.

>Pantheon mobage
>summon Bhavan from the gacha
>Pan-kun gets instantly atomized
>game ends and uninstalls itself
Did you rike it?

>>22816627
>pantheon mobahe
>summon bhavan from the gacha
>tries to atomize pan-kun immediately
>gets put into a headlock by hirume
Very much

>>22813264

>>22812227
Refer to this:
>>22805773
>>22805849

Leave the ahoges to me

Access ~ My Sin

>>22816219
>I demand to be spoonfed!
The post

>>22816219
The only one I coukd see doing it is trexalfa. Wait for more people outside Japan to get their copies, I guess.

>>22802258
>imagine Munsarat as a super manly giga Chad
>he actually looks like a retarded faggot

Anyone else wish Maaya Sakamoto would get a role at some point in Shinza?

Masada Wiki lists
善でありたい
滅ぼすべき邪悪がほしい as Mithra's craving, does anyone know the source for this?

>>22822029
Her inscription at Onogorojima which influenced by the Samsara Vartin's prejudices against her, so it might not be as relevant anymore

>>22821779
Only if her husband gets a role as well.

>>22821779
fuck that, i pray for the slightest chance sirius or any future old man character is voiced by Wakamoto Norio

Oh Crowley and anderson

>>22825168
What about them?

>>22825463
Crowley eusford(seraph) and alexander Anderson are characters those seiyuu played

So Cosmic Eagle posted. In the Comiket book it says the Throne was created by Mithra and co. themselves?

>>22825854
Dunno who that is, but why are you asking us? Just paste what he posted here so we can discuss it, I guess.

>>22826468
Too long for the whole thing but for what was asked

>Anyway, it seems that the Throne itself was created by Mithra and the Naraka gang at a place called the "land of beginnings." In her world, there are no supernatural powers or magic and in order to expand human dominion of the universe, a bunch of people with abilities unexplained by the science of that period (Taikyouku?) who arose in increasing numbers after the discovery of "the point where everything seemed to began" were thrown into a war for control of said "land of beginnings." Eventually, the war came down to four powers and six young people. Mithra was commander of the Adityas, one of the fleets fighting to control the "land of beginnings." Through the battles, the six of them eventually bonded but only Mithra was left after she became Dai-Ichi Ten. The rest disappeared from history and they became the group that Mithra calls "Naraka."

So I'd like to hear the characters voice lines but the Pantheon website isn't letting me, it doesn't even load the music, does anyone know a workaround?

>>22826345
The one on the right looks very rapeable.

Everything is a tapestry made out of human hearts.
That is why it is so imperfect, so fleeting, so precious, yet so beautiful.
If it all degrades to mere ■■…
We will hardly be able to forgive that. So we believe.

Mithra
A military officer tasked with reaching the “Land of the beginning” and claiming exclusive rights on unveiling it.
The commander of the Âditya fleet in the rank of rear admiral.
The younger appearance of the one who will later create the first Divine Throne and become the first god, the “Truth”.

Varuna [Red glove]
A young man serving as Mithra’s aide and someone akin to her lover.
Later on, every mysterious being called “Observer” looks like a spitting image of Varuna.

Arya [Blue glove]
A young woman serving as another one of Mithra’s aides with deep adoration for her.
A talented member of the elite who’s both sincere and hardworking. Has to suffer through many hardships due to Mithra and Varuna’s unprecedented activities.

Savi [Green glove]
A commanding officer of a military state opposed to Mithra and her fleet.
A callous man who keeps both a cool head and a cool heart, ready to do anything to achieve his goals.

Śakra [Yellow gloves/Big hand]
A pirate who is called the worst criminal in the universe.
A man who can be considered the strongest individual of Throne Zero.

Vivas [Pink glove]
A princess of a theocratic state.
Despite her noble upbringing, she acts as an eccentric troublemaker.

Explanation
The six build their friendship after many conflicts and finally reach the “Land of the beginning”.
However, something seems to happen there, as Mithra is the only one who obtains the special power that is later called “Divine Throne”, with the rest of the five vanishing in the dark depths of history.
Only Mithra might know everything, yet she hardly talks about any of it, only calling her five former comrades “Naraka” and intending to destroy them. To do so, she comes up with a grand scheme of “Pantheon” that will later involve gods and people of every Throne.

The Third Divine Throne: Imperfect Heaven of the Morning Star, Zoar
You and I are not the same.
Is this a curse?
Or is this a blessing?

Shamash
The general term that denotes all sentient life of this age.
The for which “All is one”, with everyone sharing the same appearance, personality and consciousness. Therefore, the concepts of self and others do not exist, and neither do conflicts nor death.

Gomorrah
The alien element that posesses “Personality”, unlike the aforementioned Shamash. Their existence initiates the ruin of the third Throne’s eternal paradise.

Rasalhague
The masked man on the left.
A doctor of Gomorrah who wonders whether they can be considered the world’s illness. He travels in search of salvation along with his friend Lament.

Lament
The long-haired man on the right.
The first Gomorrah. His psyche is invaded by “something” from another dimension, making him slowly crumble apart. He is opposed to his older twin sister who stands at the top of Gomorrah, as their fight decides the third Throne’s fate.

Explanation
Ignorance is a sin. People fear what they don’t understand, making them perform foolish acts.
The third Throne of omniscient paradise built on this idea is invaded by something “unknown”.
That is the only illogical trait Satanael could not leave behind after becoming a god…
Perhaps it is his yearning for the universe of possibilities: “What if she was still alive?”.

The Fifth Divine Throne: Twilight Samsara of Reincarnation, Anima Entelecheia
I’m living here and now.
My family is right here.
I need no other life.

Order of Twilight, Vingólf
The only organization opposing Samsara Vartin. Consists of the reincarnated people of the fourth Throne.

Samsara Vartin
The cult aiming to destroy the Divine Throne itself.
Believing that no man can defeat the current god of Twilight, almost all of its members are female.
All of them have public personas of great politicians and army officers, athletes and actresses, making them actual rulers of the world.

Svaha
The highest-ranking monk of the Samsara Vartin cult.
De-facto leader of the cult who has the public persona of a global-scale politician.
Believes that Sahasrara gave birth to them so they can save her and does everything she can to make her human once again.
To do so, she decides to destroy the very foundation of the Divine Throne, the system that turns people into gods.
Needless to say, she is an insane individual, and her goal of bringing ruin to the entire world is truly diabolic, but at her core, she is filled with deep affection for her family.

Sahasrara
A woman who is treated by the cult of Samsara Vartin as a living god.
A being with no sense of self who can only speak random prophecies akin to a living radio; a so-called god transcendent.
All members of the cult are Sahasrara’s daughters.

Isaac
The head of Order of Twilight.
Reincarnated Isaak of the fourth Throne, with Theresa as his twin younger sister.

Om
The supreme overseer of the Samsara Vartin cult.
De-facto second in command who has the public persona of a global-scale military leader.
Has deep mutual trust with her older sister Svaha and is considered the only person who understands her intentions perfectly, helping her in any way she can.

Mara
The devilish child found by Svaha and treated as the cult’s hidden object of worship.
He is the one who later becomes the sixth god, the “Hajun”.

Theresa
A member of the Order of Twilight.
Reincarnated Johann of the fourth Throne, with Isaac as her twin older brother.

Explanation
The world that follows the Marie route of the fourth Throne’s “Dies irae”.
Those who have remained since previous age fight a new menace to protect her law, but utterly fail to do so.

>>22831134
>older twin sister
Finally I'll be able to masturbate to Mercurius without it being gay.

>>22831125
>Later on, every mysterious being called "Observer" looks like a spitting image of Varuna.
So the original Shirou is a cuck?

>>22831141
How did they even discover the Throne, being mere humans and all (aside from Sahasrara)? A shame we didn't get even a single design, though, wonder why.

>>22831621
5th throne was going to be a big chapter in Pantheon, it was also Masada's favourite so I guess he's still holding out hope
On that note
Turns out Hajun was not only /ss/'d by two women, but by an entire global cult of women

>>22831621
The Kajiri artbook has Masada describing it as the cult basically writing fanfiction about gods that just so happened to turn out accurate.

>>22831134
What are the odds of "older twin sister" being a fraternal twin and for no reason also a Marieface?

>>22831141
>All of them have public personas of great politicians and army officers, athletes and actresses, making them actual rulers of the world.
So almost exactly that Korean gang calling themselves the "Eight Goddesses."

>>22831920
more like the Illuminati

>>22831975
That one is already taken by Sata-san.

>>22831141
Surprised there is no mention of Snek, Ren and Reinhard, aren't they supossed to be the guardians of Tasogare? or something around those lines.

>>22832012
You already know who they are and I suppose they're only relevant at the very end when they all get done in.

>>22831134
Huh, no mention of the Winged Ones?

>>22832065
Nope

>>22831134
>“What if she was still alive?”
Wonder who. Mortaria, maybe?

>>22832035
Why didn't they just stop the cult before getting Hajun'd?

>>22832325
>Singer skipping Avesta and Paradise Lost
Yeah, probably Mortaria Samael, I guess some people would be confused.

>>22832703
Not interesting enough for them

>>22825854

>>22828435

>>22833168
>>22833174
Lad?

>>22833212
Help please :)

>>22828435
Just get their links and listen to them off-site. Change the '001' to '002' and so on to listen to the other voice clips.
http://dies-p.net/voice/hrm001.mp3
http://dies-p.net/voice/yom001.mp3
http://dies-p.net/voice/koh001.mp3
http://dies-p.net/data/music001.ogg (bgm)

>>22833467
Thank you sir :)

>>22803722
>Another one loses their nichijou
You get used to it

>Taking classical japanese class just to read some of this shit raw

I've gone off the deep end.

>>22836169
Based and chuunipilled

>>22831134
>>22831125
>>22831141
Is this translation from the new gaiden?

>>22832092
How did you read it? It's incomprehensible. If you have larger scans pls share.

>>22831283
You are only deceiving yourself, if you like Snek you like him.

>>22837091
Nah, don't wanna

>>22837515
Then fuck you.

>>22837091
That's the only scan that I could find

What do you guys say about making small crowdfundings for scanlations and stuff? If enough people help, it won't hurt our pockets so much, and everyone can get a copy. Better than wait and rely on other people/sites, I'd say.

>>22838161
Shit, we could even do this for Avesta and be spared of moralfag whining.

>>22838161
The problem with this is that there's too many cases of people starting crowdfunding campaigns and then running off with the money. I'd be even more wary of any campaigns started by some no name from a niche fanbase like Shinza.

>>22838193
Yeah, admittedly, I have no idea how we could find someone trustworthy enough to handle everything. The only one that comes to mind is the Russian anon, but he's probably too busy with his irl problems do deal with all this.

>>22837045
Yeah

>>22837091
Best I can do

>>22838371
Thank you. Can you take a photo with Snek and Nerose pages if it's your book?

>>22838161
I'm in. I think we could even try to crowdfund for G artbook.

>>22838193
I really don't think anyone from these threads would run away with money. There are not so many random people in the first place.

If Masada finds that and says "Nah, screw you guys" wth are we gonna do then? I think recently Maruyama said he considered dropping Overlord because of translators for his LN

>>22839398
He isn't going to drop his passion project just because his irrelevantly small western fanbase is sharing his stuff. The whole thing with Overlord is just the author getting burned-out and using the translation thing as an excuse.

>>22839453
Yeah I read that about Maruyama's motives, but I can't help but help concerned though. Also what exactly are you guys trying to crowdfunded? We already get free, public translations from trexalfa and others. I did at some point think it would be nice to get crowdfunding for say, a translation of Soujirou vs Shiori, Amakasu vs Yoshiya, Kriemhild vs Mizuki or something

>>22839515
The torrent for the english TL of IkaBey only has 227 downloads, you vastly overstimate our relevance, literally no reason to be concerned. About what do we want to scanlate? I was really only thinking of the artbooks, but TL's are a nice idea as well.

>>22839572
You seen this yet? :) https://twitter.com/yoxalloyal/status/1030107025408053249?lang=en took me ages to realize thats Rei fighting Wilhelm lols

>>22839628
Yeah, I actually have the artbook. Also, please refrain from using emoticons here, this isn't a chat, use reaction images instead.

>>22839398
I can't believe you fuckers start whining even when people want to LEGALLY purchase Masada's stuff. Get the fuck out of here back to your sekrit club. Anons have been sharing on 4chan for years, you are CLEARLY not from here if you think it's 'problematic'. It's literally behaviour of tumblr landwhales.

>>22839628
>that emoticon
Get THE FUCK out, you are the cancer.

>>22840226
Chill lad, he isn't really moralfagging like certain others, just needlessly worried.

>>22839243
When I get home, but the description is the same as the pantheon websites iirc. In the meantime
Chapter 4 part 1 https://pastebin.com/g7yb6yQq
Chapter 4 part 2 https://pastebin.com/4XeGZjQw

>>22840226
Bruh, i don't HAVE access to these things, i'm only a 500 yen pledger myself and an EOP myself. I was LEGITIMATELY concerned about the legality of this as well as how Masada would react to this and the future of Shinza. I AM from here and deeply appreciate people sharing the chapters and translations, being a 500 yen pledger and EOP myself..

>>22840377
Thank you kind anon.

>>22840469
Masada wouldn't react at all because he'll never know what happens in a small thread for god's sake.

>>22841581
>22599141
Okok fine. I was just expressing concern and explaining myself. Sheesh

>>22840469
Say, what does the 500 yen pledge give access to?

>>22842091
Everything but the chapters. So i get the lore stuff and announcements and whatnot.

>>22840377
>but the description is the same as the pantheon websites iirc
I see, thanks, but I wanted to see the art in good resolution too.

Been a while, how much are they making now?

>>22842966
28400 US dollar a month

>>22843173
Even if he shares 1/3 with G he's more than alright.

>>22831641
>Turns out Hajun was not only /ss/'d by two women, but by an entire global cult of women
>Hajun hates everyone because of childhood rape trauma and just wants to be left alone.
>Unlike Schreiber, he didn't secretly enjoy it
>he attacked Marie because she was a big titty woman like the ones who molested him

>>22843828
Still need Yonao to score and seiyuus to voice

>>22843173
i wonder if they've used the money to buy the pantheon rights back from the debt collectors or something
they're obviously using character art it

>>22843983
Whatever the case may be, let's hope Masada gets to get out everything from Shinza. All the heavens and Pantheon. Cheers

>>22843828
They also probably made some good profit off his stuff from comiket. Hell, History of Pantheon even managed to beat Wada-Arco's new Fate artbook for a few days on toranoana, and even after that it still remained at #2 for some time, that's seriously impressive for a series as niche as Shinza. The future is actually looking bright, for once.

>>22844325
Seriously? I didn't know it about Fate artbook. Very impressive.

>>22843848
This is actually plausible.

>>22839243

>>22845092
Yeah, I saw it, too small anon.

>>22845092
Snek being beatiful as always. I really hope Pantheon becomes a thing again, I really want to see his interactions with Lament

Whose the Persian dancer lady in the picture you guys reckon?

I guess it's the dragon jewel mistress?

>>22831125
>Pantheon is Mithra's plan
>She fucked her allies and now she intends to destroy them
What an extremely beautiful bitch.

>>22847254
No one will answer because you didn't even post it.

>>22850800
Time is a thing, and that was 10 hours ago..

>>22850800
>You don't have to put on the red light

>>22850800
ayy a design i actually like for once

What do we learn about Bfarvan's locust swarm?

>>22850800
>Roxeanne
>One of the twelve lords in charge of the Sacred Kingdom's government.
>A bright woman who's responsible for public relations. She likes holding various events, but has an unfortunate trait of getting a bit too excited at times.

She's also one of the most talented healers around, so Japanese fangs think she might be Zurvan's obligatory doctor partner this time.

>>22852392
There are only three of them: Bachravan, Harvatad and Amurtad (no idea how to spell their names, honestly). The other two are the last special-ranked daevas and were once defeated by Bachravan, but managed to escape alive. Now they're following in his footsteps and want to prove they're the strongest beings in the universe. They're doing basically the same thing he does, jumping from planet to planet and killing everything they see, not straying too far away from each other since they know they other party is looking for the strongest opponents. The first part of the chapter ends with Bachravan losing sight of them, probably because they found some worthy opponent.

>>22852522
Sorry, their names are actually Zaliched and Tarvid. The other two are the stars they destroyed right after Bachravan punched the head off of Spenta Manyu, the strongest star spirit on the side of good.

>>22850915
>Time is a thing
Fucking bullshit

>>22852522
How can they travel alongside him without him chimping out and attacking them because he acknowledged them?

>>22852628
I assume it doesn't contradict his Commandment when they're light years away from him. He won't turn down a fight if they come at him, but he would rather have them get even stronger before doing so.

Basically, they're literally Super Saiyans.

>>22852628
>chimping out and attacking them because he acknowledged them?
I assume because their "fight" was already settled unlike with Nadare and forge daddy so he's not compelled to jump them immediately.

>>22831283
>first they gave us a Reinhard we can fuck without being gay
>now they're giving us a Mercurius we can fuck without being gay
How are Masada and G so fucking based?

>>22852806
Technically, isn't Ellie Strife female Merc, don't know why people here look forward to Lament's sister to be honest

>>22852522
Wow I never even noticed the Observers all have a lady doctor acquaintance. Was Ellie Strife a doctor of some sort?

>>22853172
Obviously?

>>22854096
I'm an EOP..

>>22854109
So am I. But Ellie Strife is literally Dies Irae's Ellie, you can tell from her design and the fact she's around literally Shorou.

>>22855737
I know she's Ellie, what I meant was in the context of KKK alone, when she joins the EE as a mole is she presented as a medic

still waiting for AM design

>>22855832
You're aware AM is a place, rather than a character, right?

>>22856453
If AM is supposed to be Aka Manah, no it's not. Aka Manah is the person, domain of the true King is his location

>>22856918
Oh, I confused it with Angra. Yeah, me too, then.

>>22856962
Oh, I suppose he could have meant angra mainyu too. Am curious about pre-throne era spaceship design myself