/jp/ - Otaku Culture

First

>>22721077
the japanese are woke but is a much more subtle way. you have to have observed them for a long time and have a certain set of experiences to understand why.

How much progress can I expect after 4 months if I dedicate at least 4 hours a day to studying Japanese?

>>22721161
69

Can someone help me with top left panel. I'd like to identify the verbs.
>とんど
Is ton, right?

>とって(ない?)
>たまって

>>22721154
Depends on what you do.
If you actually go for learning properly you will definitely recognize a fair bit when consuming Japanese media.

>>22721178
俺　ほとんど　取ってない　から　溜まってたんだ

>>22721201
Oh you are right. I missread the ほ. Thank you.

>>22721161
0

>>22721189
but mostly you think i should be proud that my ancestors are from europe because....?

>>22721214
>>22721170
Be serious.

>>22721161
probably start to be able to read simple manga and watch simple anime without completely wanting to die

>>22721229
Just watch the bible series.

>>22721238
youre probably going to cripple yourself and learn negative japanese

>>22721244
That's the plan.

>>22721252
yeah damn bro i am i already put down my manga book to watch the first 15 minutes of it, the whole series is really long though

6 episodes into madoka and i really sock a bitch right in her block fuckin head

>>22721263
everybodys got a plan till they get punched in the fuckin face

>>22721238
how do u measure progress
what is studying
assuming ur not wasting ur time with dumb shit how comprehensible is what ur watching or listening to or reading
how closely does what u do mirror what i did so that i can compare it to my own experience and not pull theories out of my ass

>>22721453
aaa wtf i had a new song but its fucking delete now

>>22721541
house is way better cooler and smarter than this cuck

poll time:
１．how long has your japanese 冒険 been?
２．what is your nihongo レベル?
３．what has your 作戦 been thus far?

>>22721586
just read more

>>22721586
randomly inserting japanese words into english text is fuckin gay as fuck

how do i get over reading anxiety

>>22721687
read more

>>22721687
you know the answer already mang

>>22721726
honestly not true you will just end up never reading because listening will be so much easier for you

>>22721772
>what were you reading?
it was anime. but i was just shitposting, my html file has been open for a few days

my pb for daily visual novel reading is 191k maybe someday ill get to 500

バーニー・サンダース

>>22721807
stfu ciaran

i havent read a hookable vn in months so i cant compare my gains to the rest of the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcCHevpdsAA

>>22721586
1. probably 550 hours by now.
2. somewhere between "know a few words" and "still don't really understand much of what i read"
3. fap to h-manga, read eroge, watch anime

>>22721872
i already felt like shit long before the holidays.
hell, i've felt like my life (and everybody else's life is pretty meaningless) for more than a few years now.
before i tried coping with it. now i just accept it.

>>22721891
life being meaningless or meaningful has nothing to do with whether you're sad or not
some people are happy when they realize that they can do whatever they want with their lives and ultimately there's no scary devil or angry god to judge them after

ワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワンワン

>>22721923
ワンna フkユー up

>>22721927
get a dog dude

If I can learn x86 and x86-64 assembly, then I can also learn japanse, right?

Right?

>>22722007
that's not really what it means though

not sure what your post means but thanks for the ゆ

>>22722029
it means it doesn't mean しながら and you probably have a poor understanding of one or both of those things

>>22722037
just trying to help you understand japanese better bro

>>22722016
nobody can learn japanese

fuck i have been pronouncing you wrong

>>22722047
can we throw this meme away already

>>22722249
I don't see why not.

is misa the undisputed goat japanese yuchuuba?

doing anki reps while listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RihclGb6x1I

made 3 sentence cards today to help with some grammar shit that is refusing to stick, lets see if i cripple myself

>>22722714
he was basically just interested in bankrolling something with rem in it cause she was his waifu lol

>>22722752
actually sad he didn't succeed

>>22722731
what's the difference between "gonna do" and "can do"?

ive lost 80 lbs and dont feel any satisfaction, starting to wonder if i'll feel any when i acquire nihongo

japanese has no conjugations

>>22722665
there aint any sequels i would want to fund really, plus i dont wanna disrupt the natural course of things

Just finished this 10/10 show.
Unfortunately i got so invested in it that i ended up turning on english subtitles because i couldn't live with not understanding everything. Oh well...

>>22722852
hope this fills the void in ur heart somehow but i reckon it doesnt so i win in the end
>>22722857
hope so dude, tnx

>>22722885
>because of the animation
Why? Unless you're talking about the artstyle and not the animation, because the animation is pretty much better than anything else produced nowadays and Masaakai Yuasa has mastered the medium of animation.
Idk, i don't really understand the dislike of the art style from some people. It's just different but incredibly expressive

>>22722899
yeah i mean the art style. idk some stuff just doesnt sit well with me instantly. i dropped kingdom and kill la kill for the same reason.

>>22722890
a lot of people are on medication that makes them eat uncontrollably its not always their fault

>>22721142
4/730
I'm thinking of adding expressions to my cards. I've come across a decent amount recently. https://streamable.com/bt3c1

isnt it kinda lewd that dolly always has her bra strap showing

>>22723026
if you see it once or twice in context when you already know 障害 you'll remember it, imo you should be on the conservative side when mining shit like this so you dont bloat your deck and end up hating life when you have too many reviews.

>>22723021
stuff like 縁起えんぎでもない and 見渡す限り

>>22723040

already 覚悟'd that i wouldn't hit my mined words quota for today but i was saved when a character suddenly pulled some 厨二 shit with three words i hadn't seen before

>>22723071
let's see them

>>22723071
sometimes when i mine like 7 cards from 4-5 episodes of anime i dont even bother doing them and let them roll into the next day. but when im at like 12 i'll watch another episode even if its 3 am and i dont really feel like it to reach at least 15 or so. wish i could get to 20 but it rarely happens.
>>22723104
>Imagine 5 years from now someone asks you how you learned japanese
based insecure loser letting inconsequential hypotheticals dictate his behavior. though this post does kinda sound sarcastic but i cant really tell.

>>22723113
>sometimes when i mine like 7 cards from 4-5 episodes of anime i dont even bother doing them and let them roll into the next day.
wtf i thought we were all doing this, i dont get why you would do them right away. you arent gonna acquire them as well

reminder that this one dude matt interviewed to became fluent said that he basically didn't bother with sentence cards at all cause he was too lazy for it and he still reached proficiency in 24 months

>>22722233
you havent seen prison school?

are there any good japanese game or anime reviewers?

>>22723150
hes better in natural conversation than djt

>>22723232
it wasn't.
if you think chris is exceptional, just try reading a page out of a ln and upload a vocaroo of yourself reading it.
i doubt most people here would totally fail that test.

>>22723275
often but i know almost immediately it was wrong

>>22723261
Hardcore atheists make me cringe.

softcore atheism is where its at

>>22723482
do you post atheist related opinions in this thread

>>22723578
lmfao

i am slightly bothered by how bland vinland saga looks

>>22723586
i remember mangafags hyping it up as the new berserk years ago so this must be one of the greatest series of all time right?

LMFAO
So showing dismemberments, people's heads on spikes and whatever is fine but panties? oh nooo give it the smoking jotaro treatment what is this shit

>>22723612
how many cards have you made from this show? it honestly would boggle my mind if its more than a couple.

>>22723619
not many, I'm not watching shit to make cards
I'm watching this kind of on the side anyway as I shitpost or do whatever

What do you guys do for cards for words like 開く（あく）vs　開く（ひらく）?

Honestly the anime cards site should just be required literature before you are allowed to ask dumb things on the thread

When people blame me for enjoying bad anime like Overlord and the slime isekai one I start thinking maybe I enjoy bad anime, so I give bad shows a chance, but what ends up happening is that they are actually just bad and I have a bad time.

>>22723712
妹大好き

>>22723722
shit taste isnt a specific taste but a descriptor of many possible tastes

does anyone sometimes hate reading manga because the text is all spread apart in small chunks separated by all those images and bubbles instead of just pure text

Hate manga because most of them never get an ending due to how they are produced and most raws are only available in shitty ass quality. Most translation groups actually put effort into making the pages look good so excluding the language part English language manga pirates actually have a better reading experience

>>22721142
Hello /djp/, I'm new around here. I'm taking a business trip to japan in 6 months and don't know any japanese, what's the best way to learn a passable amount?

>>22723936
based unenlightened white "person"

>>22723815
You bitched about this in discord as well and got mocked for being a retard.

putting a sentence on a card doesn't make you know the sentence

>>22723936
to get the deep effects you have to let go of beliefs that you're always right/you always know whats going on. basically you have to let go of your ego.
and that seems like the hardest thing for you to do quiz

>>22723979
remember when you cussed out nuke because he said anime cards were no better than sentence cards?

>>22723982
most of the time I talk about anime cards I put on a character just to make it more entertaining
your inability to see through that just shows how short sighted you are

How stupid is this shit by the way lol

>>22724004
dont worry i already felt it out so i know what im talking about

>>22724009
have you watched the biblical series

>>22723999
yeah he doesn't know what enlightenment really is. at least in the context we're talking about
its a total overhaul of your felt experience of life. viscerally feeling deeply renewed and refreshed, connected, clear, loving
its not about thinking and reasoning more
in fact that stuff usually just prevents it

>>22724014
he guides us with his actions
i.e. leave this place forever
it's the only way to make it

>>22724057
true
moe was truly the best djt had to offer

>>22723987
you talk to people like that all the time on djt and not just about anime cards either
and i highly doubt nuke found your tantrums entertaining, you just came off as a huge dick and possibly unstable

>>22724073
you just see every post I make in whatever way suits you
what you are saying is wrong but you don't want it so

The only real complaint I have is that "da" is not actually a copula in the strictest sense. It's a contraction of "de aru". Similarly "na" is not a modifier. It's a contraction of "ni aru". "aru" is the verb which is the closest you get to a copula in Japanese - it means "it exists" for non-animate noun-phrases.

So if you say "sakana da", it does mean "It is fish", but so does just "sakana". The copula is implied. The "da" is completely optional and is actually only added for emphasis -- the literal translation is kind of like "That it is fish exists". In literary Japanese you would say "sakana de aru", "de" being the particle that links a verb the the means with which the verb is executed. For example "basu de iku" means "will go by bus" -- bus is the means by which we will go. In "sakana de aru" or "sakana da" we are basically saying that "fish" is the means of its existence.

The "na" modifier is also interesting. It is really "ni aru" where "ni" is essentially the "direction" in which something exists. "Something like a fish" would be "sakana no you". If you want to say "It is a fragrance something like a fish" you could say "sakana no you na kaori". Although I'm not aware of any modern Japanese that would express it like this, this is equivalent to "sakana no you ni aru kaori" -- "It is a fragrance that exists in the direction like a fish". Hopefully you can understand.

The interesting part of this is that adding "ni aru" to the end of a noun phrase just turns it into a verb phrase. And the even more interesting bit is that the only thing that can modify a noun phrase is a verb phrase.

But, you may have heard of "i-adjectives" -- these are adjectives that end in i. In actuality, these are not adjectives! They are verb phrases! So the word "cute" is "kawaii". However, the actual word is "kawai" and the inflection is "i". That's why when you want to say "not cute" it becomes "kawaiku nai" -- the "i" turns into "ku" because you are inflecting a verb.

This in turn is why you modify nouns directly with "i-adjectives". "kawai sakana", or "cute fish". Other adjectives are actually noun phrases in Japanese. "yumei na sakana" or "famous fish". This is, again, exactly the same as "yumei ni aru sakana" -- "The fish exists in the direction of fame".

Finished アカメが斬る
Terrible. I had not one powerful reaction watching this entire show. All of it was predictable and boring. The cast was likable but the fact that they get collectively killed off for no reason just makes me think what the writers were smoking, especially killing off all the girls where it almost became formulaic. I refer back to this post which I made when her 'death flag' was raised >>22723853 and of course she died, again causing no reaction in me, merely making me wonder what kind whack job wrote this piece of shit. This show was a waste of time and I got nothing out of it.
Overall I rate it 2/10; it had a few cool visuals and some cute girls but fails in every other conceivable way.

>>22724174
I just consume Japanese and have fun, or try to I don't actually have fun watching shit like this >>22724129
If you want to know more about what I do in Anki you can read the animecards site.

im only like a week into the core 2k/6k deck and its starting to get real fucking hard.
what else should i be doing at the same time?

I've ran out of ideas of where to look, does anyone know where I can stream/download Ten: Akagi Shigeru Soshiki Hen? I don't need subs, but JP subs would be nice if possible.

>>22724212
watching anime

>>22724257
ふくもと

Ｎ２くらい

むずかしいほうにはいるとおもうよ

on episode 23 of ttgl now. ラストスパートだ.

>>22724215
have sex already incel

>>22724730
the act of having sex itself would do nothing
maybe having a healthy relationship with a girl I can admire, adore and love would help me but I doubt the girl of my dreams really exists, most women seem to be extremely flawed individuals

>>22724743
>but I doubt the girl of my dreams really exists, most women seem to be extremely flawed individuals
you wont find anyone till you realize the one thats majorly flawed is you my dude

>>22724754
of course I am flawed but that's the thing, despite my flaws most people I talk to that are my age seem to be far more flawed
this generation is just rotten and there is a lot of factors contributing to that that I don't really care to unpack right now but if you disagree or think I am more flawed you probably just don't know me

>>22724766
it's much easier to make everyone else the problem, isn't it? this is probably part of the reason why you didn't like akame ga kill.

>>22724780
what does that have to do with anything
what am I making someone else's problem anyway
I for one think I have relatively little problems and those problems I do have I work on fixing
I was merely addressing your point about me not finding anyone until I admit I am more flawed or something
I could probably get a GF relatively quickly if I tried too but I am busy with other things right now

I've been doing 3-6h of active listening daily for the past 2 weeks but i don't feel like my listening has improved at all...

>>22723910
https://twitter.com/daveschester/status/1210672620175269888

>>22724895
first comment seems like a reasonable argument

Do I understand this right, 億 is 100.000.000, so when something says 300億円　it's 300.000.000.000 ? Or are the two zeros not added. But then there would be no difference between ３億 and 300億 so I guess they are?

>>22724885
>Oof
yup, that's a big yikes from me, chief

I don't care about humanities because it's full of gender and race obsessed left wing cultists and I wish I could rewind a year and properly do my CS degree but there is no way I'll switch again then again maybe I just think that because I'm not there anymore and if I was I would again be bored and have no motivation to do anything who knows

>>22724792
>I could probably get a GF relatively quickly if I tried to
i remember i used to believe this for many years up until i realized i'd never actually tried it and thus had no evidence i was capable of doing it at all, but also since i noticed i didn't even like having conversations with the kind of girls who were around me, that i would probably never enjoy having a girlfriend, and being won over by cuteness in anime, i just decided to reject 3d in favour of 2d.

today we start!! I'm beyond excited to finally get into this, thanks for all the help from this thread!!!

>>22724930
>no dildos and bara manga
never gonna make it

>>22724901
>so I guess they are added?
yes.
億 is 1E8
300億 is 3E10 not 3E11 or 3E8

>>22724955
Oh I had one zero too much I just noticed. Thanks!

>>22724743
>maybe having a healthy relationship with a girl I can admire, adore and love would help me
legit cant imagine you in a healthy relationship with anyone let alone a girl

>>22725023
yes

>>22725023
reddit? if not you should read tae kim

一騎当千

>>22725035
does tae kim answer the exact question he's asking or are you just referring to the page on conditions which doesn't answer his question

>>22725048
his question is completely meaningless because he didn't state any context lol

i don't get why saside and sasimukau means to go face to face with some1

>>22725112
you don't need to get it. just memorize the definition the dictionary provides

いんｔのDJTは私と通じるんだ

>>22725186
/int/のｄｊｔは私を通すのは良いのだ。

>>22725224
i completely stored it away?

>>22725226
yeah

What do you guys think of penpal apps like hellotalk or tandem?

>>22725231
useless for anyone who's gotten less than 2k hours of comprehensible input

>>22725231
never thought about them

>output
K lemme think about all those things I wanna tell people from other countries in their native language
none
Literally none.
What would I have to say?
Oh, I'm an otaku who's really into anime and visual novels who doesn't like dating girls or going out with "friends" and studies CS but doesn't really feel a lot of commitment to it.
I stay in my room most of the time, and usually visit this one far-right autistic circlejerk website named 4chan.
Yeah totally interesting isn't it?

>>22725231
ゴミ

>>22725299
lol who are you quoting

>>22725310
at least you can feel superior in the knowledge that you don't need to lie to yourself or others about your ability

>>22725310
so this is the power of the djt method

>>22725299
you don't really get it. japanese people are more enlightened than westerners and have more interesting things to say. europe and na are behind them in many ways.

>>22725373
>2ch and japanese youtube and twitter have proven quite the opposite to be true

影法師

>>22725394
are you the konosuba guy

yamaoka-san does not take any fucking TRASH from 2bit yokohama chinks!!!
https://streamable.com/g2wbn

i'm looking at porn of merilyn sakova while i listen to an anime

>>22725400
better than being a loser who can only talk about one thing

this game is fuckin lewd

>>22725446
what exactly is lewd here

>>22725456
should have screen capped the previous text box too, she's promising to dress up as a slutty bunny to motivate the villagers to mine

gonna yeet you out of this sure if i see one more anime card poster

Learning sentences and phrases is more beneficial than learning individual words and grammar


Prove me wrong

You can't learn japanese

Prove me wrong

thread fucking blows camel dick without Jamal

>>22725519
thats not how the burden of proof works

Lum is evidence pre 90 animes were more lewd than the stuff from today

>>22725570
The burden of proof is GAY and misused dinosaur concept 90% of the time

>>22725519
i won't cause i agree

Learning books is more beneficial than learning paragraphs

PROVE ME WRONG please i need the yous

>>22721596
please post a content warning before telling zog lies

if you're going to cheerlead anyone it should at least be someone like moe-dono. really looking forward to seeing how thick solid and tight moe gets

>>22725523
i already learned it retard

there's a lot of big mouthed people in here who think they know japanese but have nothing to show for it. haven't even seen any quiz results or vocaroos.

>>22725730
who gives a shit worry about your own ability

>>22725730
wow who would have thought that backing claims up over a long period of time would be hard on an anonymous website!

>>22725730
that's not true most people here admit they're shit

>>22725753
is sucks

this is such bullshit i'm tired of people lying about djt's self-professed skill i almost never see anyone in here claiming they know japanese. only occasional people like ciaran do

stop this character assassination immediately.

>>22725746
im just saying there's a disconnect between the number of people in this thread who claim to know japanese and the number of posts where anyone displays any proficiency in the language (0). you'd think with so many knowledgeable people it would be reflected in the content of the thread.

>>22725760
>only occasional people like ciaran do
never claimed anything about myself in here other people just like to post about me for some odd reason

>>22725763
the people who know any amount of japanese in this thread just want to shitpost not to tell someone that the ば in 言えば isn't a particle

>>22725762
no you dont

>>22725796
i love this period of vn aesthetic. looks like they drew in paint with a lot of skill

>>22723612
How many cards showing pantsu do you have?

"なかなおししてくる"

? A bit lost here

wotd: ネグリジェ

>>22725926
She wants to made up with them, but I can't quite grasp the grammar/words used.

>>22725933
The なかなおししてくる. I can' understand the words used.

>>22725906
仲直り
仲直りするかな

>>22725906
仲直りをさせること。仲裁。

>>22725945
what's wrong with copy pasting the dictionary entry

>>22725945
Thanks DJT Guardian! :) One day we will all be as good at NiHonGo as you thanks to your generous help!

>>22725986
it wasnt me i was gonna shit in ur mouth but saw that someone did it for me

>>22725938
I see. Why the use of the し in 仲直し instead of 仲直り?

>>22725994
cuz he's telling them to 仲（を）直す

>>22726011
Ooh, thank you.

>>22726042
fuuk you cuntface

I dedicate 1-hour and a half to studying Japanese.
Right now I'm learning hiragana and get through 2 lessons a night(I'm following the itazuraneko guide).

In fast am I progressing? Is this rate rather slow or average?
My goal is to have a firm grasp on the language 2 years from now. Should I up my game or just keep trucking on?

>>22726060
just keep going dude no answer will change the actual outcome that is awaiting you so whats the point of asking

>>22726069
To communicate efficiently in the language and be able to write.

>>22726087
probably the wrong people to ask since almost everyone itt only cares about understanding and reading

>>22726091
That's good as well.
How long down the track are you able to competently follow untranslated anime?

>>22726060
ganbare lol

>>22726103
idk im a year in and nowhere close so i cant say. i expect at least another 2 years for myself at this pace. goal oriented thinking is pretty useless when it comes to something as long term as japanese.

>>22726118
Sorry tried remembering my trip on phone, looked it up now :)

>>22726127
it's realistic if you actually spend all your time on japanese but most people, like redditors, take decades and never get anywhere so that's probably the more realistic outlook in the real world

>>22726157
that guy regularly spent at least 3 hours a day nearly every day on japanese, including making anime cards watching anime listening to audiobooks or whatever the fuck
the average person who says "i wanna learn japanese" is not going to commit even 10% of that on a daily, consistent basis.

>>22726179
"learning japanese" is completely nebulous though so even if you set that as a goal you have neither a method of assessing if you have achieved it nor any real idea of the time frame that it'll take

>>22726170
he read tae kim, did some coredeck, then watched jp subbed anime while making flashcards

>>22726195
what's an example of a good goal someone should set if they wanna learn japanese to watch anime in its original language

i dont need goals to continue consuming varied content which is what will lead to improvement anyways. jamal is just being contrarian for the sake it as per usual.

>>22726235
just drill them kanas thru anki and watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IpHIUxhdaI

>>22726240
idk stop pretending you know japanese online for starters

>>22726248
ここに誰も日本語を知るのを言えない。

still waiting for jamal to reveal the secret goal that will lead to japanese success

>>22726276
very nice man

>>22726279
>now mind you it's not because I don't know the words.
lmao i fucking knew you'd say this as soon as i read the first part of the sentence

>>22726301
2 seconds is more than enough to recognize a word. Look up how fast word recognition is, there is probably a million linguistics study covering this.
It simply takes some practice to become capable of reviewing this fast.

>>22726303
Nah if that happened I'd fail the card. All my cards have word audio on the front so if I hear anything counter to what I said the card is failed immediately.

>>22726318
>2 seconds is more than enough to recognize a word. Look up how fast word recognition is, there is probably a million linguistics study covering this.
you can believe you have recognised a word in 2 seconds but you can't test it against reality in 2 seconds because you're just pressing space twice as soon as you see the card on your screen

>>22726221
- watch a full episode of anime with japanese subtitles (while looking up things you need to to understand better)
- watch a full episode of anime raw
- watch 5 full episodes of anime with japanese subtitles
- watch 10 full episodes of anime raw
- read 3 chapters of manga
- read 4 volumes of manga
- play 1 hour of a videogame in japanese
- play 10 hours of a videogame in japanese

shit like that is really good, just increasing the numerical goals as u go along. you can even keep an anilist to track only your jsubbed or raw-watched anime, a bookmeter to track the manga and books you've read, etc.

>>22726336
yeah but if you believe that 素直 means the same as 正直 it doesn't matter if your recognition of these words is instant does it, that's my point

>>22726318
>All my cards have word audio on the front
wait what

tf no cute big titted jpn gf that makes you 豪華三段 err day

>>22726341
no one here has 160 iq so unfortunately you're just gonna have to fill us in instead of making cryptic posts about it that don't lead anyone to anything

>>22726367
>>22726376
damn you two are dumb as fuck. he didn't do it for english because he "immerses" in english constantly. and english is similar to german.

he only gets a few hours of japanese input a day on average and japanese is very different from english.

>>22726380
for some reason he's unwilling to i wonder why

>>22726376
cuz the main thing you use anki for is to learn the readings, meanings are easily acquired without anki

>>22726369
naruhodo ne.

>>22726394
>I probably have a better grasp on both of those words than all of you
dunno how you can say that with a straight face when u couldn't even read it properly and then claimed they were interchangeable when they weren't

quick tell me what the pitch is to 第三者

how much do i need to pay for jamal to set some goals for me

>>22726414
>>22726419
だい・さんしゃ

>>22726427
oh that's why i thought it was also 3

fuck 4chan limits

>>22726416
>yes they are interchangeable as in it doesn't become incorrect Japanese
the sentence didn't make any sense with 正直 though

>>22726438
worst ending in anime history. they even show that Misa is alive and fine to rub salt in the wound

>>22726449
you mean 素直?
lol.....................

>>22726460
quiz isn't even trying and he's still dabbing on his haters

I don't know what happened before that text so who knows it's feasible bro

can you read them all

>>22726501
yeah pretty damn easy bro

yo im back and ready to post bros

>>22726501
didn't know the first one

>>22726501
yea they're all common

>>22726460
yea it didn't make any sense

https://youtu.be/nc7Y0BvEYQk
should i watch this or not

https://youtu.be/a43DziGyD_8
should i watch this or not

>>22726522
looks kind of lame to me

how much programming have you done today quizler

>>22726528
yeah its tagged as "virtual world"

>>22726532
none, I did a little bit yesterday
but I'm probably going to put it aside until February~March as I will be busy with something else next few weeks

>install Kenkyusha's New Japanese-English Dictionary (J-E) and Meikyo (J-J). Ask on DJT or here where you can find them.
where?

>>22726505
so what does it mean. you have 30 seconds

>>22726539
no idea.
i just use jisho (which is free) and 大辞泉 (which i payed 279 pesos for).

>>22726539
who told you to come here for anything

>>22726555
QM

>>22726539
it's on the itazura COR page
I just don't link it directly because I think Google Sites is sensitive about piracy

probably going to masturbate to something cool today

>>22726579
the J-J EPWING Dictionaries link has them all

>>22726583
OK
im setting this bitch up but damn it takes some time, ill be already a winner if i go through with the installation of all that
and i'd been already using yomi and anki, i cant imagine someone completely new doign that tho

god i wish that were me

>>22726596
even if you already know about Anki it's still worth reading the optional steps at the end of the section which cover a lot of tweaks that make reviewing a nice experience at least IMO

>>22726601
moe is leaving us all in the dust...

>>22726603
yeah i already set up all that

>>22726601
they probably do it in English so it doesnt count

>>22726303
>>22726313
>>22726349
>>22726410
good posts

>>22726615
>they probably do it in English so it doesnt count
you don't understand

>>22726615
it's japanese, the guy posts here
well he hasn't in a week or so but still

think the reason he hasn't been here is because he finally hit critical mass and no longer needs any english entertainment cause he understands everything he watches now. it's over boys pack it up were done.

I wonder when the next simplification of kanji will be

damn rip moe he probably immersed so much that he forgot english completely, and is going to turn into imouto2.0

>>22726601
>During a discussion about what they would put on their bucket list, one of the girls says one thing: sex. This single word sends ripples throughout the five girls, as the thought of sex begins taking over their daily lives.
lol

how long should it take to master core2k or 6k?

>>22726681
what does that even mean

can't believe moe dropped angel beats 8 episodes in

>>22726681
depends on how much you immerse.

who's that moe guy? is he good at jap? for my own good i dont come here very often so im out of loop with the local celebs

>>22726681
>master
dont do that

>>22726682
'to have every single card as "mature"' i think is what he means.

>>22726687
>is he good at jap
he is now that he reached his final form

アラ means both a specific type of fish and the cheap bony parts of fish. they said they wanted to eat アラ but i thought they meant the fish itself. but then they said ブリのアラ and that really got me for a second.

>>22726682
have every card so ingrained into my memory that I can immediately recognize each kanji or phrase
Also, does everyone write the kanji they learn at the same time or stick to reading?
>>22726695
why not?

>>22726583
now how do i add meikyou if it isn't formated for yomi?

>>22726709
how to format it is explained on the site check the end of it there is a converter

>>22726708
can't say how long it takes
don't write your recognition cards that's a waste of time

>>22726713
wow it really is testament to his lightning speed progress if he was able to improve in such a short space of time and beat the n1 quiz shortly after that.

>>22726708
handwriting is useless in our day and age. the only time i ever used it was to impress some people who didn't know any japanese so as to convince them that it's possible to learn kanji with flashcards in under a year.

>>22726501
can't read any of them

went out today and saw so cute korean girl that it actually ruined my day

how do i keep learning japanese when i know that virtual youtubers are actually probably ugly irl

>>22726722
>>22726737
interesting to hear. so are you unable to write in Japanese using kanji?
I can understand that I probably won't ever need the skill, but feels weird to be unable to write properly.

>>22726768
read more doujins bro

>>22726771
just stfu and follow the guide
>>22721500

>>22726783
b-but the other guide told me to download the core decks

>>22726771
i can write many of the common ones, but i sometimes miss by one or two strokes.
if you wanna do kklc/rtk/kanjidamage, you can do it, but it's not really ever gonna be useful.

>>22726790
same problem. i'm about 700 words into core2k because i read the guide and now i'm crippled.

>>22726771
I can write well over a thousand kanji (as in use them efficiently in sentences on paper) but I can read over three thousand. I try to work on my writing a bit just because I think it's cool but you don't need it for anything, so I do lack the motivation to really dedicate time to it.

>>22726795
how are you crippled? or is this a meme
>>22726806
what makes core 2k bad?

>>22726803
i set up all the dics, now i use English dictionary, but could understand some easier definitions like those used in Sanseido 国語辞典
what order do you recommend?

>>22726751
decta

>>22726814
do you even know what core2k is? it's 2000 words words from newspapers sorted in the way most guaranteed to make you mix up similar words

>>22726814
core2k is bad because it teaches you all the words wrong. the meanings are wrong, the kanji are wong, the readings are wrong! and the beginning of learning a language is the most important part, as that's when you'll experience the fastest and most permanent gains. so when you start with core2k you basically ruin yourself with things you can't unlearn.

>>22726790
>>22726795
literally doesn't matter just finish it
don't obsess over beginner material it's all the same shit what matters is what you do afterwards

>>22726834
unfortunately no beginner ever wants to believe this so they'll ignore it and discover it for themselves as always

>>22726818
What order? What do you mean?
Just try to understand the Japanese definitions and if you do put them on your card. Otherwise use the English one. If you are at the point where you can mostly just use J-J dictionaries put them above all English dictionaries in Yomichan.

yeah core2k is fucking shit. i remember shit like 赤字 and 黒字 from it, but remember pretty much everything from vncore

>>22726828
>it teaches you all the words wrong
>the meanings are wrong, the kanji are wong, the readings are wrong!
the fuck are you talking about

>>22726826
what's the other deck do differently?
I'm only a couple days in so maybe I'll just switch

>>22726848
correction
i have reached the point where i have acquired most of vncore

>Nuke curated the core
>he can't speak jap for shit
that figures, i also went thru a bit of the core and the order of the words is totally retarded, that manga deck was better and had far fewer words but in good order, mostly w/o errors

Core has a lot of problems but they are easily fixable. I should probably upload a fixed Core6k deck at some point incorporating my improvements and fixing the most critical issues.
But honestly you can fix them yourself if you aren't an idiot. If you see two cards with the same thing on the front it's not really hard to incorporate an element that makes them distinguishable is it.

>>22726861
Yeah he turned it into RTK order which I suppose is retarded.

>>22726857
the other deck is words from visual novels, which are similar to anime and manga. it's also ordered from the most frequent to least frequent word so doing the first half is perfectly fine

>>22726704
wow at least it isn't just me who was confused. turns out this was the entire plot of the episode! what a twist! what drama! i really jumped the gun on this one. what a fish it is too.
https://streamable.com/lbwm4

>>22726893
wtf wheres the subs bro

>>22726751
wonder what girugamesh dude is doing now
probably dead from old age

>>22726916
he's living in japan now, he posts under the handle nukemarine

>he doesn't use bunrpo

what's the best way of checking definition of a word within a definition of a word in yomi?
>highlight word
>definition is in jap and dont know some words in it
>how do i check definition of these words

gotta copy paste and then check or is there something smarter?

>>22726902
idk but im not sure they'd have helped me much in this scene anyway
https://streamable.com/t8gv9

>>22726929
Yomichan lets you scan words inside the definition window. There is a setting for how many scan windows you can have at once so if you can't check your settings.

>>22726927
you don't know japanese

>>22726929
>Maximum number of additional popups
set that to something larger than 0 and you can use yomichan on yomichan

>>22726929
there's an option in yomi that lets you hover words in the pop-up window

>>22726939
>i-i-ii'm a cool person

>>22726927
>>22726947
who are you quoting

>>22726929
you don't need to scan within the window like these dumb fucks are saying literally just click on a word and it'll show the definition and you can click the back arrow to go back to the original definition

@22726951
>tripfags
kys

>>22726956
https://streamable.com/gfi37
back to /int/ faggot

What's YOUR excuse, huh?

>>22726956
>>>/v/
>>>/int/
>>>/r9k/

>>>/out/

>>22726959
neko-chan says, m'lady fuck your sekret klub

i fucking hate the new year

@22726962
>tripfag
>>>/redddit/

>>22726976
it's okay they'll give up soon

i just got another dumb idea:
i'm gonna use sentence cards for kana-only vocabulary and vocabulary cards for vocabulary that's got kanji.

>>22726849
trying to scare some noob lol

i got a better one use sentence cards for everything

i got the best one, just play vns and read doujins

>>22726996
fuck no.
readings are impossible to pay attention to in sentence cards.

vocab cards if you want to learn nihongo
sentence cards if you want to acquire 日本語

>>22726826
yeah man, it introduces 下げる, 下ろす, 下りる, 下り, and 下がる on the same day. they're sorted like that, it's ridiculous.

>>22727003
>readings are impossible to pay attention to in sentence cards.
what?

>>22726191
anyone who can smoothly read through chapter books or visual novels, watch shows, browse the web in japanese effectively, talk to japanese people without them needing to do baby-talk to you for you to understand and respond effectively etc, has learned japanese.

have they learned all of it? of course not and there’s always gonna be more
but they've learned enough to do a lot with the language and that means they learned and are still learning japanese

its so fuckin stupid how some of you put it on this mega high pedastal like "you only know japanese if you can sound as perfectly as a native, understand everything you read 100% with no dictionary and never make a mistake in your life" like shut the fuck up bro

in real life, outside of this sphere of self-masturbatory social outcasts, being able to function in a language at the level i first described, means you know it. no one really cares after that, other than random internet fucks like qm and his gang who are always trying to show off all the “easy” (usually obscure or relatively low freq) shit they know so they can feel superior.

>>22727006
ah that was the best day in my nihongo journey

>>22727012
meditation tranny strikes again

>>22727012
i agree, but can you translate this
わたしはゲイ

>>22726961
i already know japanese

>>22727024
pls dont say that if it really aint her
i miss my darling

>>22727011
back when i tried doing only sentence cards, i remember i could more or less remember entire sentences' meanings, but not the key word's reading, whereas with vocabulary cards, i can easily recall individual words' readings, and also kind of remember meanings.

>>22727030
it's only the meditation tranny who goes off about people's weird perception of fluency in here because she's mad she sucks at japanese and this is the only place anyone is honest about it

>>22727012
you know the real tragedy is that you are not wrong but when you say rare and obscure words you probably actually mean completely normal and common N1 words using 常用 which every Japanese person knows so there is this funny noob element in your post

マカロニ・アンド・チーズを食べた

>>22727047
spit it out

total noob at nihongo here, can someone explain this boogiepop sentence?
>僕は進学しないので、まわりがみんな受験生のクラス内でも最近浮きがちだし。
i dont get 浮きがちだし
or is ち＝うち and im retarded?

>>22727069
>total noob at nihongo here
i'm not going to answer a question that start with this reddit shit

i love veganuary. they have a whole section for vegan food at aldi this month when they didn't before. got some cool new stuff to eat.

>>22727073
k thx for the feedback tho

>>22727074
>vegan
>aldi
never going to know japanese

>>22727069
google がち grammar then google the verb im sure you can figure it out good luck

is getting a psvita and hacking it worth it for visual novels?

>>22727069
look up がち in the dictionary

>>22727084
that's fine i don't care about that. i just study because i like the language itself im not interested in media.

>>22727096
i have one and it's pretty neat but i still prefer to play on pc because of lookups

>>22727096
just get an emulator on your phone

>>22727096
are there visual novels you want to read on psvita or psp? do you have income that can replace the ~$150 purchase before you starve to death? you don't give us enough information in your question.

>>22727090
>>22727102
thank you

>>22727096
looked into this myself but vita's are way too fucking expensive here even used ones it's fucking retarded

>>22721500
Okay I think I will finally start this today. How do I learn hiragana and katakana?

>>22727146
don't start that til you learn hiragana and katakana. basically just write them over and over again. take like a week to do it, and then you'll get used to reading them when you do vncore.

>>22727127
how would you make cards with a ps vita? keeping it plugged into your pc & streaming all the time? sounds like it defeats the point.

you wouldn't

>>22727159
You can take pics with Vita and any handheld device in the last 5 years.

>>22727047
this is still the most based tweet of all time
https://twitter.com/Libido_Kamen/status/1175476189240201217

>pic related, me looking up the price of psvitas
i guess they really are expensive huh. what over methods are there of playing vns on the go?

>>22727146
1. watch the hiragana song video and repeat as you hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IpHIUxhdaI
2. load em all onto anki & rep em till they stick. press fail as many times as necessary
3. stare at some furigana-filled manga for practice

>>22727166
the nigger doesn't recommend SENTENCE CARDS

>>22727172
psp

>>22727177
I was actually asking because I want to do it.

>>22727186
Well if I had a Vita I might have bothered to figure it out but I don’t so alas no tip I can give

maybe I should just get one of those $1200 cell phones like the galaxy note 10. i still have an s3. but i bet there are a lot of vns on the cell phone.

>>22727173
>>22727151
Okay I will try this, thanks for the song

post comfy bangers

>>22727229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaxI3Ubt9PE

tfw you lose your wife cause you can't make a proper curry. well deserved.
https://streamable.com/lqkxg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjl_Vud-Jmg

I'm 16 episodes into Evangelion and I'm still not hooked. I suppose it's got the makings of a good show but it doesn't really speak to me. I doubt it'll score above 7 for me unless something that will blow me away is about to happen soon.

>>22727238
such a good song

>>22727237
>Oops!
>We couldn't find your video.

>>22727033
you should have bolded the new word

>>22727033
you should have bolded the new word

>>22727256
whoops i wrote the wrong url. it's https://streamable.com/lqxkg

>>22727229
https://youtu.be/PTg674K8UKU

>>22727244
Ok please don't post spoilers here though

>>22727277
Don't worry if I post anything about my thoughts I'll make sure to spoiler it and tell you the spoiler is a spoiler.

hxh is shit

wtf is this anti-vegan sentiment. very upsetting. might have to drop this show now for making fun of my lifestyle choices.
https://streamable.com/lulpn

you're genuinely a vegan that's funny

ciaran is terrifyingly unfunny

どうぞ

stfu ciaran

>>22727331
not trying to be so that's fine.

>>22727229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2quiyHfJQw

What is this way of numbering? Never seen it before (doing the thing with your hands)

>>22727359

>>22727361
that's just how all japanese people do it.

>>22727361
no idea
i'm just a dumb weeaboo like you.

>>22727337
*licks belly button clean*

>>22727361
Î remember some discussion about this happening before

>>22727229
https://youtu.be/bnKNwBVG5Yw

>>22727359
i remember i couldn't understand the lyrics because they were flying by too quickly 8 months ago.
now it doesn't feel that fast.

why doesnt ciaran just tripfag here at this point

wondering what kind of cool stuff jamal does when he aint posting here

>>22727244
>>22727277
how are you posting here without having already seen it?

>>22727420
because then you could just filter me and i wouldn't get to annoy anyone with my posts :)

>>22727438

>>22727435
i mean sleeping is pretty cool when you are tired

>>22727036
i listened to 2 of her vocaroos not sure if there are more
first was meh and cringe second was kinda good
it's clear she doesnt suck

two people already 見間違えた me for "ciaran" in the recent threads

i can't wait til in a few years' time when we're all done acquiring japanese, just tripping on djt with the boys talking about nothing yet everything at the same time. oh man is the future bright. god speed

the bros that did core2k6 in 2017 are already 1/4 there

>>22727456
mayb u are him and u just haven't woken up to that fact yet.

>>22727429
Just never cared and every time people sucked it's dick I wanted to watch it even less. Seemed to me the kind of of 2deep4u show 14 year olds watch and walk out having understood nothing and 浸るing in the euphoria of that all the while the show provides no entertainment value.

Really I mostly watch anime for entertainment, now you can make something deep and philosophical that will truly make the viewer think and that will be enjoyable as well but you can also make something you will walk out of having no clue what the fuck happened (Mawaru Penguindrum is an example of this) and it as a result not being really great show.

That said I'm open to my mind being changed. So far however (16 episodes in) Evangelion hasn't really given me much that made me think it's 10/10 like so many people think but it's obviously building up to something so I'll finish watching it.

damn another "i dont care" wall of text from qm

>>22727480
gotta watch end of evangelion after, it's basically the final extra long episode of the show.

>>22727166
but then you have to upload the pictures to the computer

>>22727456
yeah it's not actually that easy to tell which posts are mine imho.

You've given some childish shows high scores on your MAL and even if Evangelion doesn't make you think or resonate with you, by virtue of what's it trying to do it's better than those shows. 8 is the minimum but you should give it a 9.5, or give it an 8 and lower all other scores on your MAL by at least 2 points.

>>22727520
good post

>>22727520
dbz is a much better show than eva. doesn't matter if it's for "kids" or not some are just better than others.

gonna post my anilist at the end of the year with objective ratings

one piece is better than eva too. i feel like the creator of eva realized what a piece of shit the show is going to be and decided to just end it
same cant be said from one piece

>>22727547
Did you watch EoE?