/jp/ - Otaku Culture

Sekai/Denpa
>Winter Polaris - Released
Baldr Sky - Steam page up
Karakara 3 - 2019 release
Ley-Line: Daybreak of Remnants Shadow - "QA finished, bug fixing in progress."
Ley-Line: Flowers Falling in the Morning Mist - Fully localized, in engine work
Re;Lord Volume 2 - 100% translated+edited, awaiting engine work by the developer
Harumade Kururu - Awaiting engine work, 2019 release
Rewrite+ - Kickstarter succeeded, 67% translated, 17% edited, November 2020 estimated release
Love Duction - 100% translated and edited, engine work in progress
Hoshizora no Memoria (retranslation) - In progress, 2019 release
Hoshizora no Memoria Eternal Heart - 35% translated, 2019 release
Island Diary - 100% translated
Riajuu Plus - 100% translated and edited, awaiting engine work
Creature to Koi Shiyo!! for Otome - Waiting on a third party
Miko no Kanata - 100% translated and edited, awaiting engine work
Memory's Dogma - Code:01 Released, 02 onwards upcoming
Tenshin Ranman - QA and engine work next, in "icebox"
Fault - Silence the Pedant - Demo released
Fault Milestone 2 - Side Above released, GE still to come
Nekopara Vol 4 - Announced
NarKarma EngineA - Announced
Subete no Koi ni, Hanabata o. - Picked up
Sumire - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 3 - Picked up
I Walk Among Zombies Volume 0 - Picked up
Sanarara R - 100% translated, Editing and programming started.
9-nine- Episode 3 - Picked up
Amatsutsumi - Translation and editing in progess
KoiKuma Fan Disc - 100% translated, editing ongoing, waiting on build from dev
The Seventh Sign -Mr. Sister- - 100% translated and edited, waiting on a build
Love's Sweet Garnish 2 - Translation and editing in progress
Kanojo no Seiiki - Picked up
SF - Picked up
Glass - Picked up
New Glass - Picked up
Nekopara Vol 4 - In development, 2020 release

Sol Press
Shitsuji ga Aruji o Erabu Toki - Upcoming release
Nukitashi - 58% translated, 7% edited
Himawari to Koi no Kioku - 69% translated, 58% edited, February 2020 release
Irotoridori no Sekai - 30% translated
Mirai Radio to Jinkou-bato - work starting shortly, 2019 release
DareSora - Volume 1 Released, info on future volumes soon
Witch's Garden - Picked up
Happiness! 2 Sakura Celebration - 48% translated, 38% edited
Jinrui Saikyou Seiyoku no Yome Kouguchi Rinko - Picked up
Hyper->Highspeed->Genius - Picked up

Nekonyan
Senren Banka - 65% translated, 60% edited, December Release
Aokana Perfect Edition content - In QA, planned to be released near the end of the month
Aokana Extra1 - Picked up
Fureraba Complete edition - Vita exclusive content to be added to Fureraba a couple months after the fandisc release
Hello Lady - 95% translated, 85% edited
Making Lovers - 100% translated, 78% edited
Melty Moment - On hold until after a newer Hooksoft title is released
Making＊Lovers: Geki Icha After Story - "we plan to translate the Fandisc as well"
Secret Project #1 - 100% translated and edited, engine work by developers
Secret Project #2 - 40% translated and 35% edited
Secret Project #3 - 20% translated and 8% edited

Cherry Kiss
>Nekura Ijimerarekko o Tasuketara Natsukareta - December 24th release

Fakku
Oral Lessons With Chii-chan - Base game fully translated, after story translation ongoing, late 2019 release
Abaddon: Princess of the Decay - 2020 release

Aksys
Piofiore no Banshou - 2020 release
Gensou Kissa Enchante - 2020 release
Collar x Malice -Unlimited- - Picked up

Other
>Seven Days - Released
>Summer Pockets - Translation finished, awaiting Steam review
Venus Blood Frontier - December 20th release, New demo released
>Oshi no Love yori Koi no Love - February 28th release
Ouka Sabaki - Partial "Early Access" release on 9/17
Taimanin Asagi - Page for the Trial of episode 1 back on Steam
Yumeutsutsu Re:Master - Announced
Utawarerumono Remake - 2020 release
Project Sakura Wars - 2020 release
Angel Beats 1st Beat - 50% translated
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>Stuff like this has been either added or updated since the last thread

Nice! Another dead week!

>>22589709
>Other
INTERHEART released Harem Game
https://www.indiegala.com/store/product/harem-game/1027_adult

>>22589730
B-But seven days and winter polaris both released

>Senren Banka - 65% translated, 60% edited, December Release
KEK

>>22589696
There's usually something in the contract for when that happens, and whoever didn't keep their end of the bargain becomes liable.

>>22589773
For what it is worth, Seven Days hit 15 concurrent users, and Winter Polaris hit just 5 concurrent users, neither of which are at all impressive. Seven Days at least made $34k from a Kickstarter, but Winter Polaris looks to be a significant flop probably only migrated by a likely limited budget.

https://twitter.com/NoahSteam_/status/1206241949906288640?s=19

Sakura Taisen fan translation officially launched by the way

>>22593339
*officially released, my bad

>>22589730
What's worse than being EOP?

>>22591873
What even is Winter Polaris and why should anyone care?

So I just became aware that Baldr Sky is actually going to be released in English. This is one of those VNs/games I've wanted to play for like a decade, but, does anyone know about the quality of the translation in this release?

>>22597699
Oh, anon...

>>22597713
Is it that bad?

>>22597718
Probably worse.

>>22597721
What a bummer. Guess I'll just forget about it then.

>>22597724
Might still be worth a torrent if you like the look of the gameplay since it's pretty fun.

>>22597699
>This is one of those VNs/games I've wanted to play for like a decade
What was stopping you?

>>22597729
I'll just find something else to play, I guess. I don't really play VNs much, or at all, these days. I was just surprised to see that it was actually going to come out after like two failed fan translation attempts and then translation limbo or whatever. A jp speaking friend of mine used to talk about Baldr Sky quite highly years and years ago.

>>22597744
If you want to check out a game in the same series then a fan translation of Baldr Force came out last year (although it was of the all-ages version of the game) and the translation is okay from what I've heard.

it's going to be another December without angels isn't it /jp/...

it's halfway over...

There's not telling when Sol Press will do their next update so here's some info on Nukitashi
https://twitter.com/ConmanIttaku/status/1206761568903417857

https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/1206997341095387136

>>22602613
>50 bucks
lol

>>22602620

Stop being so cheap, jaypee

>>22602638
well i wouldn't buy it no matter how cheap it is, but 50 bucks is still funny to me.

>>22602613
>50$
kek

>>22602613
Classic Sekai releasing it at the same time as two other releases.

>>22602728
Which releases?

>>22602746
Bokuten and Venus Blood

>>22602641
$50 is from a commercial standpoint probably the correct price for it, considering the size, high budget, and the relatively inelastic sales of VNs based on their price. Although with the amount of cuts needed to get onto Steam today, good shot it isn't worth buying at any price.

>>22602728
>>22602753
Venus Blood isn't going to be released on Steam until later though, and Bokuten is going to flop.

>>22602613
>50$ for censored shit
holy kek

>>22602935
Funny thing is that it would be $25 if it had the 18+ stuff.

I'm hyped for the shitshow. It'll forever spoil the enjoyment of Baldr Sky for you EOPs.

Why they don't fucking answer if it will be on denpasoft or not? Is it so fucking difficult to tell the people if your fucking release will include adult content version too? God i hate SP.

>>22602982
>Is it so fucking difficult to tell the people if your fucking release will include adult content version too?
It could be difficult to announce, if you think your answer will lead to you selling fewer copies

>>22602998
Not saying anything at all will cause them to sell even fewer copies.

>>22602791
The (presumed) high cost of the license, having multiple translators, the excessive time it has taken to be finished, and the amount of extra work they made for themselves to cut it to be all ages just all add together to signify this will be a commercial flop unless it surprises everyone and does crazy well or they launch a successful Kickstarter for a physical edition.

>>22602982
>>22602998
Maybe the Japanese side is being difficult?

>>22603399
Maybe it's their job to convince the Japanese side?

>>22602982
On the one hand the contract told Aruduc to translate all the porn so they could make a patch.

On the other hand Sekai has refused to say anything about it so it is 200% guaranteed Giga did not endorse it.

Which means the only chances there will be one, is if Sekai publishes it inofficially in some piracy site to claim they never did any patch, but still boost their sales.

>>22603497
Isn't it possible that's what this is then? https://pastebin.com/PvNB7ZNY

>>22603497
>if Sekai publishes it inofficially in some piracy site to claim they never did any patch
I also think it could be >>22603519
Assuming it's real, I have a hard time believing an unrelated group of people would be willing to do all the work necessary for an adult patch when they don't even know what's actually going to get cut, if they actually release something functional within 24 of the game's release then there must have been someone related to SP and the project in that group.

>>22602953
I don't care about gameplayge so I'm 100% indifferent

>>22603529
Then doesn't that make Sekai based? Releasing an 18+ patch against the wishes of the Japanese client just so we could have an intact game?

>>22603550
Based on what or whom?

>>22603497
It is also possible that Sekai convinced Giga that "an 'unofficial' patch will boost sales and stop people from complaining about censorship without you needing to put your name on it". In which case, Sekai would be in a position where they couldn't say anything about it, but it could still be released near launch.

>What if Sekai Project put in extra work and went the extra mile and hid it out of the goodness of their hearts for the benefit of their consumers?

Are you faggots seriously debating that this is a thing that would ever happen?

>>22603586
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/1201824705755275265
That would go along well with this, which suggests that any patch wouldn't be *official* (using his notation), but it wouldn't be a surprise if work had been done on it for the situation about an R18 patch be unclear 2 weeks before launch.

>>22603550
>>22603556
I'm not a SP big fan but it would be fucking based if they release a secret 18+ patch behind Giga's back. I mean fuck Giga they were always reluctant to deal with the western market and only want our money. They don't give a single fuck about fans from overseas.

>>22603631
You didn't answer my question.

>>22603635
I'm not the anon you asked to.

>>22603603
No one thinks they would do it out of the goodness of their hearts, but they could do it out of self interest if they don't want one of their highest profile titles to drown in a censorship controversy post launch, and it isn't unreasonable to assume that if https://pastebin.com/PvNB7ZNY has any validity there could be some type of ties between the patch team and official team.

So who is the main girl the MC gets with in the true end for Baldr Sky?

>>22603874
All individual endings are "true".

>>22603671
From what I know of Ludo it definitely wasn't him unless he was getting paid to do it.

>>22603671
Sekai Project has never done even the minimum. They lie about doing the minimum later after being caught fucking everything up all the time.

>>22603874
The end gimmick is that it's a multiverse where the main character of the final route calls upon the spirit energy of the main characters of every other route to give him the strength he needs to beat the last boss. The only thing that's technically canon is that he fucks Rain no matter who route.

>>22603925
>The only thing that's technically canon is that he fucks Rain no matter who route.
No. Literally every good ending is canon at the same time.

>>22603944
Whatever. It depends on how you define canon when the whole point of the game is that nothing is canon but also everything else, and time travel doesn't exist, but also it does, and things that never happen in any multiverse are also happening five hundred years from now in an alternate universe.

>>22603969
I remember reading in one Japanese blog how that guy praised the ending because (You) don't have to feel bad about choosing just one girl. Frankly, he is full of shit (because the only acceptable ending would be a harem one), but I'd still trust his interpretation over yours.

>>22602953
Should I play Baldr Force first and hows the fan tl of that?

>>22603994
What fucking interpretation? The end of the game takes place centuries in the future, but also happens simultaneously with just after the end of every other route, and prevents any of it from happening at all in the past in other nonexistent routes/worlds, but Kou still draws power from the potential futures that never happened too. It's all nonsense from top to bottom.

>>22604217
Are you actually, factually retarded? Routes 1-5 don't happen in "the past", they are copies of the past that Sora created in the present.

>>22602728
If Baldr Sky needs to be scheduled to avoid other titles then it is already a flop.

What is truly classic Sekai though is they are also releasing that title which recently got rejected from Steam (Wabisabi) in their own storefront on the same day as Baldr Sky, Bokuten, and the non-Steam release of Venus Blood.

>>22603888
I wouldn't be surprised if the translators were just given the full original script to translate even if we never get an R18 release. It isn't like there is a Japanese all ages build to work with so it will need to be made from taking cuts from the whole and then bridging gaps in content.

>>22602613
>50$
>No 18+ patch unless you pay for it

>>22604330
>No 18+ patch unless you pay for it
There isn't even the option to pay for it unless you've seen otherwise.

For those wondering about Harem Game mentioned here >>22589747 the TL is extremely rough. The prologue is especially bad to the point that it is hilarious, but after that wears off it somehow gets good enough to just be bad. It is easy enough to follow but even at its best the English is poor. I don't think it's worth looking into unless you are really into impregnation and big tits.

Does Baldr Sky even have good H? I'm going to pirate it anyway, I'm mostly interested in it for the gameplay.

>>22604550
I liked most of them, except the rape ones, which are shit.

They've been HARD at work for 3 STRAIGHT years constantly slaving away at giving YOU the best experience, and you guys have the audacity to complain about the price tag and censorship? Clowns. All of you.

>>22604550
Porn aside, how much non-porn content would have needed to be removed to get it onto Steam these days?

>>22604601
>Fan translator works on it alone for three years
>Fuck him. Kill him and steal all his work.

>Dovac hires Malaysians for pennies to shit out guesslation and then a Mangagamer and Jast reject to clean it up and hack out over 10% of the script
>WHY CAN'T YOU APPRECIATE OUR DEDICATION AND ALL WE DO FOR YOU

>>22604601
That image shows how out of touch eroge companies are with the western market.

>>22604601
It's not supposed to take 3 years to get this done. I am going to pirate the game. Fuck Sekai and fuck the translators that work for them.

>>22604610
This. There's no way they only cut out porn, is there?

>>22604732
Every sale they lose brings us one sale closer to Sekai dying for good.

>>22604733
I am going to bet you they did cut corners and there will be dedicated types that will look through it themselves.
>>22604701
Overall it's a sad cycle you have translators that act like victims and act like they are supposed to be paid like a normal minimum wage worker despite how much less these companies get for each VN or they are supposed to be given gratification for taking forever.

>>22604733
In one of the endings, Chinatsu gets a clone body that is like 5 y/o. And you even knock her up. Just one example.

>>22604732
It should have taken three months to get it done, but Sekai Project used their first three months to strong arm and harass actual fans.

While we're at it, they're leaving out that the first of those three straight years they did nothing but harass and threaten fan translators.

>>22604744
Believe me I know. Which is why I only buy from companies I support.
>>22604751
I remember the first thread being made about it and how it started a storm for a day or two. This is on them completely for lowballing the offer to someone that can translate and had everything ready. All it would have taken is 4 months total. It took 3 years and it would have been 5 or so had Doddler not taken the money.
>While we're at it, they're leaving out that the first of those three straight years they did nothing but harass and threaten fan translators.
If I am not mistaken was there not someone that was not Aroduc that said they would leak the full game and translation out in public a week before it ever releasees?

>>22604776
>A week
To be fair even if they were intending to, it's hard to leak something a week in advance when SP only announces releases three days in advance.

On the JASTUSA discord the staff are claiming Majikoi will release in January.

>>22604810
>Majikoi will release in January
Did they mention a year?

>>22604733
For what it is worth, Doddler posted his in game stats from a test play through roughly a week ago that that screen listed 212 CGs total, not sure how that compares to the original Japanese releases and obviously total CGs don't say much for cuts made to dialogue and individual scenes outside of H-scenes.

>>22604577

There is rape and people wonder why they didn't put it on Steam?

>>22604623
Who's the Malaysian?

>>22604925
No one cares that there is no R18 release on Steam, the problem is that there is no R18 patch or R18 release off of Steam, in contrast to most other titles (such as every other R18 title Sekai has worked on or is working on).

>>22604965
https://pastebin.com/PvNB7ZNY

>>22604601
>We had to talk them down from matching their digital pricing in Japan, I.E. $74.99
If that's true it's pretty funny. How clueless does one of these companies have to be to think they could actually charge that much in the west for a video game? The ignorance borders on absurdity.

>>22605764
>If that's true it's pretty funny.
It's true for almost every western release, this one isn't anything special. The games cost an absurd amount of money in Japan and they always initially want to sell it for the same price when a localization company comes to contact them.

>>22605773
As bad as the western community is, at least we aren't a bunch of paypigs like Japanese otaku are.

>>22604066
Don't play anything translated.

>>22602953
I don't read NTR games.
>>22604066
You should play it if you like NTR.

>>22605781
>at least we aren't a bunch of paypigs like Japanese otaku are
Paypigs transcends race, anon. For example, look at bethesda and scam citizen situations.

The amount of asshurt - from the usual suspects, of course - over people not wanting to pay 50 dollars for a 10 year old game with a controversial localization and cut content is hilarious. "B-but it's better than nothing!"

>>22606672
>"B-but it's better than nothing!"
"nothing" being a fan translation by a competent translator with no cut content.

>>22606672
I especially like the reductionist argument of, "bro no one cares about 5 h scenes it's literally only 10 minutes of content you're missing" as if this weren't missing the point entirely, not to mention that cut content is only a slice of the concern pie when it comes to this release. I respect that Diddler probably did a good effort on the engine side and I can't imagine we'll see issues in that regard - his work is always good. Perhaps Steiner submitted a fine translation. Who knows? What I do know is that Sekai Project is absolute cancer and that I will never give them money ever again, they have continually spat on their customers and the awful way they treated Aroduc over this was plainly unacceptable. The moaning e-celebs on Twitter yelling at me to blindly consume can rim my asshole.

>>22604732
I have zero interest in the game and won't play it, but I'm still going to download a pirated copy just so Dovac and friends see the download number higher than their amount of sales.

>>22606681
No honorifics, not a competent translator.

>>22607054
Luckily the official translation doesn't have them either.

>>22607079
I'm not saying I'm gonna read it.

Hot take time. All translations are shit by default. The fault is on your side for staying EOP'd.

>>22607284
How brave of you to state an opinion that is held by most people in this thread. "Hot take" indeed.

>>22604751
>Sekai Project used their first three months to strong arm and harass actual fans.
Ackshawlly, it was closer to 9 months between announcing it and making any offer to Aroduc.

As if we needed any more proof of Sekai's stupidity and them sabotaging their own release's.
https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/1207111311227867138
WABISABI releases on the same day as Baldr Sky.

I don't really mind reading an all-ages release, but with Baldr Sky the fact that Sekai isn't giving any information on exactly how it was censored and who was making the decisions about that makes me fear the worst.

>>22607567
Sekai has actually gotten worse when it comes to communicating and being transparent with their fans and that's with everything they do now not just baldr sky. A year ago they at least said and tried to be more transparent, now they have basically have gone radio silent on everything and can't even bother to just come out and say no 18+.

>>22607363
It doesn't help that Venous Blood and Bokuten both come out around the same time as both of Sekai games

>>22607701
>and can't even bother to just come out and say no 18+.
I'd feel better about it if I at least knew that the script changes were made by Giga rather than Sekai.

>>22607798
>I'd feel better about it if I at least knew that the script changes were made by Giga rather than Sekai.
You know they'd just lie about it like they did before.

>>22607815
At least when they lied we got some info, now they can't even bother to tell us a proper release date

>>22607798
Giga would write replacement scenes. You can't even really call it script changes when they just cut everything out

>>22589708
>Machine Child - Announced
Does anyone know the development progress for this?

>>22608173
I remember it was brought up at JAST's AX panel last year, although I can't remember what was said.

>>22608173
Check their Enty.

>>22608173
Check here https://enty.jp/en/machine_child
from what I know it's still in development and you can donate to them.

Fun fact. Doddler's not going to get fully paid for Baldr Sky until 2021.

>>22607567
https://sekaiproject.com/blogs/news/baldr-sky-changes

>>22610235

>We want to make it clear that this was not our preferred choice. We had made an incredible effort to be able to provide an uncut version of the title. It was made crystal clear for us however, that our choice was between releasing a game with the adult content removed, or not at all. We did win some concessions, for example we were even originally asked to remove religious imagery, but the game will only be shipped without explicit content.

>>22610235
>87877 lines
>Aroduc wrote a tool that identified over 20,000 copy pasted lines
>Actual script size is closer to 67000
>B-B-B-But we only cut 3680 of that

>>22610235
https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/1207520578908741632
Their link posting this indicates that there will be no R18 patch "in an official capacity." It seems like an odd thing to keep highlighting that there won't be any official patch, Doddler had air quotes around there being no "official" patch as well when saying one was unlikely.

>>22610272
How much do you want to bet that the copy pasted lines in different routes are translated completely differently?

>>22610277
Doddler's a backstabbing turbofag. He, like Sekai Project, wants to be seen as being on the side of the fans but is only interested in sucking Dovac's cock.

>>22610282
Probably very likely. Such things have been done in multiple visual novels before. I think in general translators are insecure about translating the same line the same way multiple times, mostly because in English you are actively deterred from being repetitive in creative writing unless it's serving a purpose.
>>22610295
Yes, we get it. You cry about Doddler every opportunity you get.

>>22610277
The focus on no *official* R18 release suggests that at the very least they have no intentions of stopping a fan made patch, and it wouldn't be a complete surprise if with or without some type of backroom blessing that some staff is involved in creating the fan patch described in the pastebin targeting a release within 24 hours of launch.

>>22610297
Don't you have a dick to choke on?

>>22610300
>Sekai Project kills fan made patch
>But they have no intention of stopping a fan made patch
>Except for the fan made patch that already exists

Is time non linear in your universe?

>>22610306
I wouldn't put it past them to leak Aroduc's patch so they can play the victim card.

MG announced a January 16th release for Magic and Slash

>>22610235

>>22610235
Your friendly reminder that Sekai Project has already been caught lying repeatedly about what the developer insisted on being in a release. No reason to think that this time they're telling the truth.

>>22610393
Why would they be lying about this when they've released a patch for every single 18+ game they've licensed up to this point? What would they possibly have to gain by removing adult content?

>>22610235
>>22610267
Why would we believe Sekai Project when they've done nothing but lie?

>>22610405
Well, if you don't believe and support everything they do, you risk being called a clown by literal nobodies on twitter.

>>22610341
Replace the Youtube one with "Just learn Japanese" and it's perfect.

Don't worry I'm sure it's entirely on GIGA and not SP.

>>22610404
As you say there's not really any reason to lie here when coming clean about cuts, they're already taking the hit for it. I'm more amused that Sekai is seemingly the only company in this market that repeatedly gets itself into these situations.

I'm not sure how they do it, there have been multiple situations where they've somehow maneuvered themselves into a corner on content. It would be easy to just say they're being malicious, but they don't appear to have an aversion to adult content and have put out some pretty controversial stuff at that, so I have to chalk it up to incompetence.

>>22610470
It's so crazy how every Japanese developer insists on Sekai Project's puritan attitude, but only when working with Sekai Project.
It's also crazy that they only communicate through Dovac, and Dovac is the only one who can communicate back to them.
Crazy.

>>22610470
Was herkz banned for that post on vndb? Or does vndb let people get away with telling people to commit suicide if they're e-celebs?

>>22610481
>Or does vndb let people get away with telling people to commit suicide if they're e-celebs?
The life surely doesn't for conjueror.

>>22603550
No, because they shouldn't be releasing it censored in the first place. I don't buy their bullshit about Giga being responsible for a second, and if you do you're an idiot who falls for Sekai Project pulling the same shit over and over again.

>>22610341
Kek

>>22610632
You see, they never said it's giga actually. They wrote it in a way that blames someone else but doesn't specify so they can do whatever excuse they want to.

>>22610404
Muv-Luv Alternative's patch doesn't properly uncensor it, neither does Maitetsu's. Muv-Luv photonflowers has no patch and they said they're not making one for photonmelodies.

>>22610473
There's plenty of reason to lie, they're shifting the blame for the decision away from themselves and onto Giga.
>It would be easy to just say they're being malicious, but they don't appear to have an aversion to adult content
Do you know nothing about this company or what?

Why can't you fucking EOPs have an industry that isn't absolute dogshit? I was gonna recommend baldr sky to my weeb friends because it's actually a fun game, but it's a fucking sekai release, has MTL in it AND is censored.

>>22610733
Because it's Sekai.

If SP did indeed lie, maybe it has something to do with not being able to release both versions? Remember what happened with Maitetsu where they released some kind of frankeinsteined 18+/all-ages hybrid. Maybe they just couldn't figure out how to unfuck the game and release an 18+ version

>>22607363
They've been doing this for a while. They must know something about simultaneous releases that you don't.

https://vndb.org/r67306

Giga is re-releasing baldr sky literally tomorrow with all adult content still in there.

>>22610632
It wouldn't be too surprising to see this kind of bullshit out of Giga though, its not that much different then what killed the Jast attempts to get Baldr Sky back in the day.

Sekai had been strongly against porn back when putting anything on Steam would make a fortune with minimum effort. See the bullshit surrounding Grisaia, the purely all ages release of G-Senjou, the insistence that Denpasoft had no relationship to Sekai, and the 2 year period where most of their announcements didn't confirm an R18 release at the time they were made. At some point as sales on Steam cratered though they decided that the R18 market would be a focus, they have been trying to expand Denpasoft's library and jump into markets like R18 merchandise and manga. If only out of pure self interest I doubt that they would willingly forego an R18 version of a high profile title that would send traffic that way.

Now all that said, once it is released and they try to blame other bugs, scripting errors, and other issues and laziness that have plagued some of Sekai's higher profile releases onto Giga, that is probably their usual bullshit.

>>22611048
Oh fuck.

>>22610473
>As you say there's not really any reason to lie here when coming clean about cuts
I can think of a pretty good reason. Their own incompetence and messing up negotiation talks. Dovac already showed how incompetent they are on twitter.

>>22611078
>At some point as sales on Steam cratered though they decided that the R18 market would be a focus, they have been trying to expand Denpasoft's library and jump into markets like R18 merchandise and manga. If only out of pure self interest I doubt that they would willingly forego an R18 version of a high profile title that would send traffic that way.
Davoc did try to shop around Teaching Feeling to Fakku rather than release the game itself and I did notice the Denpasoft thing as well.
>Now all that said, once it is released and they try to blame other bugs, scripting errors, and other issues and laziness that have plagued some of Sekai's higher profile releases onto Giga, that is probably their usual bullshit.
They do end up taking awhile on things that could be released sooner.

>>22611105
That's embarrassing.

>>22610235
If the anonymous group release a patch to restore all the content it's good for me. I will not buy it because i don't want to support SP but i will be sure to pirate it if there is a restoration patch.

>>22611048
They have the DM open on twitter guys. You all know what to do. I'm going to use my best moonrunes to be sure they understand that the western market isn't a flock of sheep.
https://twitter.com/web_giga

>>22611048
interesting, how much are they selling it for?
would make some sort of sense for Giga to cripple the Steam version if they want to sell Japs a more expensive complete version at the same time

>>22611218
11k yen.

>>22610340
Was sure it was going to be Imopara 3 since Imopara 2 was released around this time and sold like hot cakes.

>>22611222
That includes Divex. Dive 1+2 is 8580.

I don't have any interest in reading Baldr Sky but the situation still makes me mad.

>>22611306
The situation is exactly what I said it would be 3 years ago, so my anger is back in 2016 somewhere. Hell, I even got the price tag correct. Perhaps this is also why I'm somewhat amused by the assertion from some that they would grant Sekai a purchase had Baldr been uncensored, as if the cut content is their only sin. There is nothing that could persuade me towards support of such a disgusting company.

don't worry guys, it actually improves the game

please purchase the game

>>22611414
Doesn't this guy claim he really likes Muramasa? brain rot or just retarded?

https://twitter.com/DistantValhalla/status/1207613443458646016
Pretty funny thread.

>>22611414
Moogy the irrevelant fat boi and Xytard the retard forever and ever contrarians. These guys never miss a chance to make me laugh.

>>22611429
>Yeah, I don't think any company would willingly choose to upset part of its consumerbase if it was avoidable. There'd be nothing to gain.
I dunno. Dovac has gone on record before saying that he'd like to ruin games just for certain sections of the market out of spite. And then, on Maitetsu, which Dovac was assigned to, he admitted that he only didn't catch the issues with the release because he had lacked interest in the title and refused to do research on it. Seems pretty self-sabotage to me.

>>22611414
The cartel is going into overdrive shilling the absolute fuck out of this game. It's kind of hilarious really.

>>22611429
>"If your stance is "I would've rather had nothing than a version with cuts." then eventually nothing is what the VN industry will be reduced to."
What's the problem with that? More quality, less quantity. If Giga don't want to appeal to the western market they can go fuck themselves. Another japanese dev who really want to sell their titles to westerners will take their place. That's simple and i don't understand how it's a bad thing?

>>22611429
>>22611443
It's okay, guys. He only "pretends" to be an asshole online.

>>22611429
>Dovac is bad at handling himself on social media, but that doesn't really reflect the company's values. He doesn't have absolute decision-making control over releases.
So all of those times it has been exposed that he does exactly that don't count I guess.

>>22611369
I care more about translation quality than H-content, but it looks like it's been damaged in that area as well.

>>22611454
That's how I feel too. Cutting shit left and right is simply unacceptable and it's healthier for the industry to have none of that. if that means no industry at all (which it doesn't, by the way) then maybe it's for the best.

>>22611467
They have rewritten the whole game to make it less risque. That by itself makes it a failed translation. This shouldn't be acceptable in any medium or artform.

>>22611448
It's not a surprise. I remember back in 2016 DxS and m*ogy were trading tweets back and forward about how if Baldr wasn't successful they should just give up on the west altogether.

>>22611443
>>22611455
Remember me?

>>22611493
And me?

Dovac: Hey look at this game we localized, it's so long, please lick our feet.
Also Dovac: We only censored 4% of the game, that's barely anything!

>>22611493
>>22611496
And me? Oh, but Sekai totally cares about 18+ content and I'm sure they fought tooth and nail trying to get it over here.

>>22611429
>>22611454
>>22611473
It's a bullshit comparison too, because if there had been no official release we would have gotten a superior fan translation.

>>22611478
Simply removing h-scenes I can more or less deal with, but rewriting shit is fucking unacceptable. Don't translators always preach about "being as close to the original as possible"? What a joke.

At times I wish I had a Twitter account so I could post these images as retorts to the absurd notion that SP is somehow neutral in its priorities, but I suppose I would probably just get blocked anyway.

>>22611078
The way their recent games have been going, they must have been hit by the "bad publisher penalty" by Steam. Only a matter of time before their lazy ass efforts kill them.

>>22611518
There's a long history of bowdlerization in translation, but such practices are normally looked down upon today.

>>22611518
>Don't translators always preach about "being as close to the original as possible"? What a joke.
Translators do, yes. "Localizers" masturbate to rewriting the whole script to their will.

>>22611429
>Sekai Project isn't entitled to your purchase, no publisher is. But I hope people understand compromises are necessary sometimes. If your stance is "I would've rather had nothing than a version with cuts." then eventually nothing is what the VN industry will be reduced to.

Baldr Sky aside, the industry has actually been doing a relatively good job getting uncut titles over to the West recently. This will be Sekai's first release without any R18 title (aside from G-Senjou which had a delayed R18 release), while Nekonyan/Sol Press/Jast/MangaGamer have been doing R18 releases of all their R18 pickups aside from an odd case like Himawari. In light of the current environment, it is hard to fault people for opting to avoid the rare censored release when the most of the other R18 Japanese VNs released in the West this year had an uncut release.

I can't believe Sekai Project approves of a racist employee.

>>22611561
>(aside from G-Senjou which had a delayed R18 release)
The Grisaia sequels too. Which was totally Frontwing's fault: >>22610470

>>22611518
>Don't translators always preach about "being as close to the original as possible"?
Sekai translators and editors take great pride in upsetting the fanbase over their localization decisions.

>>22611571
"minor" speech quirk, these people live on another planet

>>22611414
self censorship happens in art all the time, and that doesn't make it any more acceptable, nor is it ever looked back on with fondness by historians or audiences.

moogy is really pigheaded

>>22611607
What are you talking about, anon? I'm sure Rance fans would be overjoyed if Rance X, the final game in the series, came out as an all-ages game exclusively.

Give it up, pirates. You've been exposed.

Why are they all so desperate for Baldr Sky to sell well?
I wonder if Sekai Project's future hinges on it's success or not?

>>22611632
All things considered it probably will do pretty well since it has a Chinese translation.

>>22611632
Because it's a big title that has been memed in the community for the better part of a decade. The whole reason the community supported this whole "offical company rather than fans" bullshit at the start was because it could finance big projects and give games exposure.
Now we've reached a point where, after years and years of endless mountains of worthless trash they finally have 1 game people actually want. And it turns out they can't even produce a product that is better than a fan translation, showing the whole industry has no reason to exist. It's like if Muramasa released and they cut out all the "problematic" content

>>22611429
Well, at least Steiner is trying to be polite about this. No one else is even bothering and is just telling us to suck it up and buy the game lol

>>22611642
There's been a Chinese fan translation available for years.

>>22611656
just consume product anon

>>22611661
Aokana had a Chinese fan tl and that didn't really stop them from buying it in droves.

>>22611661
As was the case with Sanoba Witch.
>>22611665
>Aokana had a Chinese fan tl
I thought it didn't.

>>22611665
>>22611666
But why buy some censored version when you could get the full game for free?

It's pretty fucking obvious that Sekai is doing the whole unofficial patch thing that Jast does. My fucking problem is how they handle the situation and how all these translators that work for them are so fucking condescending. Do they not understand the simple concept of being respectful and attacking your fanbase.

>>22611670
I'm not going to try explain why the Chinese do what they do.

>>22611670
The Chinese are peak consoomers. Like, even worse than Americans.

>>22611671
But anon they came out a day before the release to tell us what's up! They're so transparent now. Mad respect to Sekai for this brave transparency.

>>22611671
>Do they not understand the simple concept of being respectful and attacking your fanbase.
Uhh, have you met Dovac?
The problem is these people are all from the fan market and still have the like it or lump it attitude from the fan market, and haven't really cottoned onto the fact after all these years that they're asking us to pay them now, and we don't have to.

>>22611686

>>22611632
They've been at it for 3 1/2 years now. Probably have put a lot of money into it at this point.

>>22611701
I want to die.

Anyone else notice the awfully convenient timing of Senren Banka not meeting its December release and Baldr getting a surprise December release.

>>22611721
That would be juicy if true, but it's probably more likely that Sekai capitalized on December seeing that Yuzushit wouldn't be plaguing this month.

>>22611665
>>22611666
Isn't that tl done by that one group of over 1000 people tl one game? If it is, it's probably super shit.

>>22611670
I'm pretty sure China a place where a lot of shits already censored like Winnie the Pooh and skeletons doesn't really care a whole lot about censorship.

Anyway, I just want to know if that "unofficial patch" is going to fix all-age script changes. Since it seems Sekai at least tried to alter as little as possible and the pastebin is also working on anything that may have been alterd.

I find it weird that everyone is taking that pastebin as gospel

Could just be a troll

Isn't the baldr sky translation quality really fucking bad too? I remember screenshots being posted.

>>22611968
Seems so. And those are the lines they chose to use as screenshots on the store page. Who knows what other gems there is in the actual game.

ye I'm thinking we need based Ixrec back the guy made perfectly decent translations of KAMIGE and pissed of JOPs to no end. But I guess it doesn't matter anymore I mean this medium might be done for in the near future anyway.

>>22611874
I have a friend from China and he says that most of the sales are probably from Hong Kongers and Taiwan, since most other Chinese just pirate.

>>22611976
No need to falseflag, moogy.

>>22611976
Ixrec was trash and no one reasonable says otherwise. Interesting guy. Admirable speed. But not a good translator. The difference is that Ixrec made trash for free, while Sekai makes trash and expects reasonable people to pay for it.

>>22612004
Not just expects them to pay, expects them to fall at their feet, praising their greatness and magnificence. They bitch about entitlement all the time, but it's entirely projection. They believe that they're entitled to glory to everything despite cutting every corner possible, lying constantly, never living up to any promises, and treating their customers and supporters like dogshit.

>>22611105
Yikes, why make public this kind of incompetence?

Never forget that they used the same excuse of "Purple Software lost the CGs for Chrono Clock" when MG had the license for Hapymaher. When asked if this applied to Hapymaher, MG just showed the uncensored CGs and proved that SP was full of shit. And suddenly, SP managed to get the uncensored CGs for Chrono Clock.

>>22611721
Everyone's been saying this since day 1, haven't they? Helps that they are literally formed by SP translators and seem to have the cash to buy several licenses from the very start. Also, the whole Yuzusoft thing.

>>22611414
You surely understand that he says what he must to protect his interests and friends, like a member of a mafia
He's not being genuine.
Business.

It's quite sad to watch that bunch of jokers fabricating lies and demeaning against what in the past was their main hobby.

>>22611414
> Reddit
> Dovac doesn't even care about 4chan lmao

Imagine if Moogy cared as much about actual translators as he did sucking Dovac's dick.

>>22612322
Imagine if Sekai Project did.

>>22611429
Why does a translator have over 5k followers? What turd has he polished into gold?

>>22612350
He pretended he translated Steins;Gate when in reality all he did was the OP.

>>22611443
Why doesn't Chris just fire Dovac? The guy is clearly a cancer.

>>22612358
Because there's nobody on the same cucklevel as him willing to take up the position, and even if there was he wouldn't be fired because it's a cartel.

>>22612367
Don't SP have "partners"? They need to be informed of Dovac's shit performance and fire him.

>>22612441
You assume general human beings give a fuck about anything. I had a company hit me with a cease and desist for a half complete game translation I was working on. I considered finishing it anyway as anonymous, but a week later they announced their own offical translation and it turns out they outsourced it some SEA company where nobody can actually read japanese. I would have given them my script for free, but they were so pissed I started without their approval they'd rather burn money. This was an international company worth hundreds of millions, not some niche VN company. The western VN market is so small that everbody involved thinks they can produce shit products without it having a massive impact on sales and they're not wrong. And if the sales are shit they'll just blame anything but themselves. I doubt any partners give a shit about sekai either, don't some of sekai's earliest releases still have translation errors that have gone unadressed for years?

>>22612441
If they did and they cared enough they would have properly fired him after his meltdown in 2016 where he said he publicly stated that he wished the company didn't even get into the business of translating VNs and that he hates everyone. All that came out of it was PR apologies and him getting his title taken away from him (while still basically doing the same job).

>>22612358
He's as much of a incompetent cuck as Dovac.
Are you forgetting that it was Chris who used to work for MangaGamer and who refused to translate the 2 loli routes in ImoPara 1?

>>22611618
>Rance X, the final game in the series, came out as an all-ages game exclusively.
It's already has 3 times more implied 10 line h-scenes than actual h-scenes.

It seems like they unhid the replies in question afterwards.

>>/jp/thread/S17397880#p17421810

I just remembered this quality herkz moment

>>22612852
The image attached to that post was this by the way.

>>22612518
To be fair trusting random dudes on the internet has not always been a recipe for success.

>>22611048
>>22611269
In that case maybe SP chose between an uncensored release and the $50 price point?

>>22612534
He actually did the first 4 characters and fell off halfway through Michika (who isn't loli) and before doing the harem route, at which point he left (or was fired) and went to start sekai with dovac.

If it wasn't for scum like SP ruining the western eroge market, I probably wouldn't have the motivation to learn Jap, so I can't help but be a little grateful to them and all the condescending assholes on twitter that suck their dick. Thanks for driving away customers, like me, with your terrible attitude and business decisions. I hope Baldr Sky sales are a disaster and your company shuts down.

>>22613085
Honestly, you should always learn Japanese if you want to read more VNs. It's probably the only way you get to read old shit or stuff from comapnies that are dead.

Seeing how many people in the west who read VNs just pirate everything by default without even considering a purchase, MG and Sekai should try to release their games with Denuvo DRM.

Seeing how many people in the west who read VNs just pirate everything by default without even considering a purchase, MG and Sekai should try to release their games with Denuvo DRM. None of the weebs here can crack anything and the AAA game crackers are not interested in weeb games.

>>22613175
>None of the weebs here can crack anything and the AAA game crackers are not interested in weeb games.
Chinamen and the situation with Oneyuu would like to say hi, EOP.

>>22613194
The chink never cracked Denuvo, he just took an exe from another game.

>>22613175
You're retarded.

>Start an eroge 'localization' company and refuse to release the porn parts because you are cucked to Steam.

Sekai Project is in full on damage control mode even before it's released.

It's fucked.

Can't wait for Ludo to declare it a rousing success just like he did with that Light garbage a week before they declared bankruptcy.

>>22613436
Sekai Project already hated ero from before they had their big Steam success.
As evident by how they treated their pre-Nekopara projects like Grisaia, and supported by their own claims.

>>22613710
>Sekai Project is in full on damage control mode even before it's released.
They sure are.

>>22613885
Can you imagine if this guy wasn't paid to write this.

>>22613175
You know Sekai would have to pay Denouvo license money for every month they offer the service, right? Their games would just become unplayable after 2 months when Dovac gets tired at paying.

>>22613904
You pay them only once.

>>22613885
>Give GIGA a chance to learn about the western market
Jesus christ. Giga isn't going to magically become competent just because their title succeeded when it didn't deserve it.

>>22613885
>want to support giga
>don't want to support sekai project ever
Sorry Giga. No can do. Looks like I am shit out of luck. This time anyway.

>>22613981
>want to support giga
Why? I'd understand wanting to support them years ago, but nowadays they're just dumping out kusoge after kusoge.

>>22613885
Do they not realise that the only thing Giga will see is it selling? So why would they have any desire to change anything if people will buy it anyways? They will pass of the people asking for 18+ as not their target market just like Sekai Project did for so long.

It never ceases to amaze me the excuses people come up with to support trash companies and their garbage releases.

>>22611078
>It wouldn't be too surprising to see this kind of bullshit out of Giga though, its not that much different then what killed the Jast attempts to get Baldr Sky back in the day.
Wasn't the only thing that killed it because JAST couldn't get them to agree for a moasic free version? That is slightly different than not wanting to have any 18+ content at all.

>>22614023
That doesn't count because it goes against what Sekai said in their statement.

>>22613997
Shirogane X Spirits wasn't that long ago was it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJwrgempsk

Ok now that I look at the dates I guess it was already 4 years ago. Anyway I haven't lost faith in Giga. I am sure they're still capable of greatness.

>>22613885
The biggest flaw with this argument is that costumers demanding uncut releases have greatly influenced the Western Visual Novel market for the better. MangaGamer didn't introduce their "we don't cut content" until the outcry over Soul Link, Jast went out of their way to do unofficial patches for Shiny Days and Starless out of a concern for consumer backlash. Sekai Project used to be much more puritan as seen with the back and forth over Grisaia and regularly announcing titles with no uncut releases until declining sales forced them to change their stance. Frontwing was originally going to release Sharin no Kuni without an 18+ release until backlash against the Kickstarter forced a change (although this one probably goes back to the Japanese developer). Degica would have been perfectly happy doing no 18+ Muv Luv if it weren't for consumer demand during the Kickstarter. Newcomers like Sol Press and Nekonyan have generally included R18 releases because that is where the current market is.

Why didn't Arunaru translate this as "Archfiend"?

>>22614052
>"Archfiend"
Whoops, I meant "Fiend".

I for one would love to hear what they told Giga about Aroduc's translation, and then what excuses they gave for when they fucked it up. They lie constantly to their consumers. They lie to the people they work with. I can't imagine the bullshit they must spew to cover their asses to the VN companies.

If only a real deal game like Baldr Sky won the Ixrec poll 10 years ago over some disney shit with talking animals.........

>>22614052
Venus Blood put a stop to most of the usual nameshit after the publisher saw the initial negative reaction to the localization choices.

>>22613885
I wish I had a reddit account to tell them they're mistaken and this decision was likely from SP, not Giga. Are their memories so bad they don't remember Frontwing/Grisaia?

>>22614070
That's the mentality on that website. Get outraged about something, then completely forget about it the next day.

>>22614070
As problematic of a company Sekai might be, I doubt that their considerations about an uncut release now are the same as back in the day when they expected to sell 50k copies of Grisaia on Steam and 1k off Steam when the visual novel market was very different than today.

>>22614063
>Baldr Sky
>real deal

>>22614070
>Are their memories so bad they don't remember Frontwing/Grisaia?
That was such a shit show. To spew lies left and right about Frontwing all while they have no English speakers to become aware of any of this. Until they did get in-house English speakers and were able to refute their lies.
And the claim that Frontwing was against it was a rather ridiculous claim to begin with. Frontwing had never stopped producing or publishing erotic content, and in the end it seems Frontwing had to wrestle rights for Grisaia back from Sekai Project just to do the 18+ releases properly.

That "mature uncut edition" of the complete box of the full trilogy that Sekai Project promised during Grisaia's prefundia campaign, that they then tried to silently sweep under the rug by the time the actual Kickstarter happened. All while lying profusely about it whenever pressed on the issue.
Ultimately Sekai Project never delivered on it. But when Frontwing got the rights, they did it. Without Sekai Project.

>>22614070
>>22614099
My memory isn't so good so could someone remind me about the uncensored Chrono Clock assets that suddenly appeared when MG got Hapymaher?

>>22614099
To elaborate a little on this. Sekai Project finished Rakuen in 2017, which was already years later than their marketed release window window. Granted that you can't always meet your aims, but after this, with the whole trilogy done, they had a couple of years where they could have delivered the 18+ complete box they initially promised backers. And nothing. They just kept pretending like it was never even a thing. Until Frontwing could do it earlier this very year.

>>22614057
They probably just said something along the lines of "we stopped your VN being released for free". That normally seems enough to placate Jap devs as they really don't like fan translations even if they had no interest in the western market in the first place (see Eushully as a big example of this).

>>22614114
It's not really that complicated of a story. It certainly absolutely exposed Sekai Project though.

But when Sekai Project got their hands on Chrono Clock, people noticed that the CGs were mosaic:d. So the question of why they didn't get de-mosaic:d images arose.
To answer this, instead of being up front and just saying that they didn't want them, didn't care for them, or just messed up or whatever was the actual truth. They bold faced claimed that Purple Soft no longer had the uncensored assets, and that they have a routine of deleting it all after their projects are shipped and wrapped up. So with how the game already being a few years old, the assets were supposedly already lost and there was nothing that could possibly be done about it. Or so was the claim anyway.

Then not too long after comes Mangagamer, having gotten their hands on Hapymaher. And this is interesting because Mangagamer's Hapymaher didn't have mosaic:d CGs and was fully uncensored. Apparently they had no issues whatsoever to acquire the original uncensored CGs from Purple Soft, which they still had stored and had never deleted. Which is extra interesting because Hapymaher is even a little bit older than Chrono Clock.

Once again Sekai Project just threw out bold faced lies about their business partners.

https://twitter.com/TeamExelika/status/1207759100613976064
In case someone wants to shit on it early.

>>22614236
Never mind, I wouldn't want anyone to experience what I just did for the 30 seconds or so I watched.

>>22614052
Wait, Arunaru did Venusblood? I hadn't looked into it before but now I know not to get it, thanks.

>>22613885
I tried making a post in that thread and it got deleted. Even though there were no "name calling" or "personal attacks" in it.. What a garbage community. They deserve whatever trash SP throws at them.

>>22613175
>Seeing how many people in the west who read VNs just pirate everything by default without even considering a purchase, MG and Sekai should try to release their games with Denuvo DRM.
That is a huge assumption there. It's just VN's are not a huge market overall and Sekai is not even worth buying from. I purchase MG games on Steam and their site and they make enough to keep getting good licenses. If Sekai took any responsibility of getting their 50 games out of the backlog VN's would not be getting a bad reputation especially on Kickstarter.
>None of the weebs here can crack anything and the AAA game crackers are not interested in weeb games.
Spoken like a true ignorant peasant.

>>22614236
No honorifics, it's shit.

>>22613885
Oh I see how it is. Everyone in the comments will give themselves Pat's on the back and barely any of them will buy the game.

>>22614052
I use to watch his channel.

>>22613885
Jesus Christ. This place may be retarded with its conspiracy theories sometimes but the absolute level of consoomer smoothbrain mentality on display here is astounding.

>>22613175
>>22614548
While it's rarely something people mention, you can't really ignore how notable portion of the community is and always has been underage teenagers that aren't even legally allowed to buy these products even if they were willing to do so.

To look at each illegitimate copy as a lost sale is simply ridiculous for countless reasons.

>>22614548
>I purchase MG games on Steam and their site and they make enough to keep getting good licenses.
If you exclude Alicesoft most of MG's licenses are pretty trash.

>>22614860
They're mostly trash including Alicesoft.

>>22614712
I doubt it's as big as you make it out to be, outside of mainstream shit like DDLC and Nekopara, and maybe certain gameplay VNs like Rance. How many teenagers do you really think would be interested in regularly reading moege? They're not exactly known for their love of reading and patience.

>>22614879
What licenses would you consider good? I think most of MG's licenses aren't that great too, but I think Alicesoft is at least good.

>>22614899
Not him, but I actually read through maybe 70 visual novels, primarily moege, during my years of 13-17. A lot more than I do now. But that was also during the mid 2000s when the market was quite different.
Most of them were honestly shit though so I probably wouldn't have bought them even if I could've.

>>22614899
I don't know. Nukige has always had a strong pull with hormonal teenagers. And then you've got less sex focused eroge like F/SN or even titles that aren't eroge at all like Chaos;Head, that are still chuuni as fuck and have a specific appeal among teenagers. Now I wouldn't know how many read moege in particular, but I really wouldn't be surprised if nukige and your typical plotge would still serve as effective gateways for your typical moege.
Hormonal teenagers, while horny, can still fall hook line and sinker for sappy romance depending how it's presented.

Reminder that Baldr Sky will have a chink translation too, so any whine, here or elsewhere, literally won't matter. It will be successful by default.
Hell, they didn't even need to do the whole "unofficial" patch either. Chinks will just eat it up either way.

>>22615390
You think they stole the chinese fan-translation and sold it as their own work again?

>>22611429
>Sekai Project isn't entitled to your purchase, no publisher is. But I hope people understand compromises are necessary sometimes. If your stance is "I would've rather had nothing than a version with cuts." then eventually nothing is what the VN industry will be reduced to.
What if I would have rather had a full, uncut English release, over two years ago, which is what we would have gotten if they just hadn't fucked it all up.
But ok you value that things are done through official channels and the actual developers get a chance to be paid and that fans and customers have a chance to buy legitimate copies or even physical products. Sure I can respect that.
But at least make that product on par with what we could have gotten years ago if you just hadn't fucked it all up.

So is Baldr Sky as good as it's hyped up to be?

>>22611429
>I understand that this can be interpreted as me saying "You're lucky for scraps" or "settle for less," but the harsh reality of the situation is that we are beholden to the original licensor's wishes for the most part. We work with and around that as best we can.
Considering how Sekai Project has a long history about lying about this kind of bullshit in the past, it's kind of hard to trust this claim to be perfectly honest.
It is much, much easier to believe that you just fucked it all up and are now trying to cover your asses, which has happened previously on numerous occasions already.

>>22615451
It's as good as all the other things that the cartel calls perfect kamige, like Muv Luv Extra, Inganock, Island, Fata Morgana, etc.

>>22615455
No cartelfag ever said that Extra was good. Only people with actually good taste say that.

>>22615465
Moogy is the king of the cartel and he's the biggest extrafag around.

>>22611443
>>22611493
>>22611496
>>22611501

>>22615474
His vndb score definitely says the opposite.

>>22615483
He dropped it multiple points after it got translated. I'm not joking. He does that for a lot of games. Flat-out just docks 2-3 points the day the translation releases.

>>22615465
Sure they do. They say that Extra is a necessary piece, and without it, Alternative wouldn't be super ultra kami tier. You wouldn't just skip over a bunch of bullshit filler and still have the balls to call it good. Would you, quof?

>>22615487
Oh wait, I'm thinking of what he did for Fate Extra, not Muv-luv Extra, never mind. Tehepero.

>>22615492
But Extra is actually the only good thing about Muv Luv franchise, with everything else being dogshit. Just like Reminiscence and the first 1/3 of Sora route are the only good things about Baldr Sky.

>>22615474
Check his rating for Fart Morgan and Island

>>22615505
Sup Doddler. Stab anybody in the back this week?

>>22615508
Yes, Doddler

>>22611429
If it's so damn impossible to release eroge in this day and age, then how come everyone else who does it manage to do it?
Maybe leave eroge for those actually capable of localizing eroge?
Maybe you should actually exit the eroge business for real and start peddling doujin games and other niche non-ero videogames or something?

>>22604363
did you buy it?

>>22615455
>the cartel calls perfect kamige, like Muv Luv Extra, Inganock, Island, Fata Morgana, etc.
M*ogy hated Island and Fata Morgana, though.

>>22613885
God that thread is awful. On the upside there is at least a few sane voices, but I'm pretty sure this is just one of you guys.

>>22615654
As much as he hates Muv Luv Alternative.

>>22615658
>tldr
he could've said what he wanted to say in half as many words.
Even when redditors are right, they're faggots.

>>22615668
I don't know what you mean by that.

>>22615674
That does not surprise me. You seem pretty stupid.

>>22615678
I'm stupid for correcting you?

>>22604601
I'd unironically pay $74.99 for an unfucked copy.
Well not if Sekai Project was selling it. And absolutely not after this shit show. But otherwise I would.
Screw paying $50 for a censored piece of garbage though. Even if you did it you'll know that the game you're investing time into was completely unnecessarily gimped.

>>22615451
If you're expecting good writing and genius plot, no.
If you're expecting dumb fun with meh but well defined characters carried by gameplay, yes.

fuck everything about their programming in relation to skipping already read text though. I bet sekai didn't even fix that garbage.

Since Kara bo Shoujo's HD version just came out, what are the odds of an english patch since mangagamer and jast dont give a shit?

>>22615402
Well, when in China, do as the Chinese would do.

>>22615809
5%

>>22615499
>But Extra is actually the only good thing about Muv Luv franchise
In hindsight the things I liked most about Muv-Luv were Extra and the ending of Alternative once it goes back to the modified Extra universe.

>>22613885
>We might not get any other Giga VNs
Wow I don't care

Given Sekai's track record, why does anyone believe them when they say that censoring Baldr Sky was Giga's decision?

>>22616556
One of two reasons:
1. They're shills.
2. They're new.

>>22615809
0% just forget about it MG don't give a single fuck about Innocent Grey now.

>>22616618
I'd say this isn't necessarily true, but given how poorly their games do in english, you might be right.

So does it use or is based on Aroduc's script? Do we know?

According to the directors note for Venus Blood Frontier, they’re considering doing Venus Blood Hypno next.

>If 'VenusBlood FRONTIER International' does well in the international market...Definitely, we are considering going for another Kickstarter.

>And, if we do indeed decide to go forward with another one, we are thinking of localising our most critically acclaimed title, the title that is considered a masterpiece among our existing fans...The 8th title in the VenusBlood series!"

>>22616828
Exciting.

>>22615505
Island is garbage.

Cara the Blood Lord has been fully translated:
https://rattanmantrans.tumblr.com/post/189763038500/submitted-patch-cara-the-blood-lord#disqus_thread

>>22617047
Well this absolutely made my Christmas. Been wanting this forever.

>>22616828
Why can't someone translate some Eushully games?

>>22617061
Eushully's staff were tweeting support/congrats in regards to Venus Blood Frontier. It's believed they might be watching how it does (Kickstarter and post release) to help them decide if they should take a risk.

>>22616772
Flowers sold really well buy that's the power of yuri i guess. I really hope JAST don't take over KnS3 though.

>>22617114
That would be nice, I played IMZ with that google translate patch (I dunno how many things were lost in translation, but at least is was very readable), and now want the rest of the series too.

>>22617114
Wonder if that means they go to JAST.

>>22617114
That's probably just their PR guy running the twitter account though. Vodoka has said before that he went to their booth at comiket and their CEO looked really angry that he (a non Japanese person) was there buying their stuff, most likely because he believes that the west are all pirates and the only reason he was buying it was to upload it.

>>22617114
I won't let myself believe in Eushully.

Also that's probably more post sales than kickstarter given the fact that the director basically said he was considering just giving up and retiring if the kickstarter didn't succeed and still said that they'll bring more games only if the release is successful indicating it's not really enough yet.

>>22616785
Someone upload the script.pac and I could tell you. Personally, I doubt it. They've posted way too many screenshots that had errors that I didn't see in Aroduc's patch, not to mention the various rewritten lines.

Can't believe they actually teased Hypno already.
Must really be confident in Frontier's success huh.

>>22617593
It's currently getting outsold by some shitty RPGmaker game.

>>22617586
While we're at it, the very first thing I'd look at to see if they screwed the pooch completely would be how they translated ハウリング, which is an important concept in the last third of the game, past where Aroduc's patch runs out. It's a false friend that means feedback and has nothing to do with the English word. I wouldn't expect even a machine translator to fuck that up, but I've seen enough of Sekai Project's garbage to know that they could very easily find a way.

>>22617609
First thing I'll be looking at will be if this gem is still in there.
https://twitter.com/The_Doddler/status/1015363576582688768

>>22617601
Can't say I'm surprised.
I hope their initial kickstarter push was enough for them.

>>22617628
Holy shit.

>>22616556
You could ask the Japanese company in twitter. Just ask in Japanese. Ei! Nip Faglords! Whose idea was that?! Yours or SP's?

>>22617628
What's the problem?

>>22617902
Mistranslation. Her symptoms are unique. Her condition is not. A ton of characters in the game have it. Her character also explicitly doesn't use the net lingo that the more wired characters do, so she shouldn't be translated as using it.

I wonder why so many westerners have such a complex about H scenes, like they can't fathom them containing any sort of characterization or simply being an entertaining read.

>>22618003
Can't answer exactly why. Maybe the monotheist and paternalistic culture that overwrote the ancient Greek and Roman heritage? The moral duality brings people to self-censor themselves. Boobies and sex is bad because the Pope or King George said so, so my weak self as to do it hidden without others knowing and feeling bad about myself.
Steam weavering rules with censorship is one more example of that hypocrite self-hating society. That's why Japanese developers might start getting tired of it and just give you want you (publicly) want. Eat shit.

>>22618003
Different markets. The teenagers pirate the hell out of the eroge games and do barely even look at the story ones.

Meanwhile the old people who lost their drive will be looking at literary master pieces so they can challenge their brain instead of their balls.

>>22618304
>literary master pieces
Don't exist.

>>22618304
The nukige sell better than the plotge though.

I put this together so I don't need to keep finding these things on their own each time it comes up. Was there anything in particular I missed?

>>22618407
>Was there anything in particular I missed?
Too much.

>>22618407
herkz is very hostile for being a sjw and an enemy of g*mergate, advocating suicide is no joke

>>22618304
>barely even look at the story ones.
Then how did Type Moon grow so big? It sure wasn't the porn.

>Baldr.Sky-CODEX

>>22617601
Isn't that the the new game by the creator of ROBF?
I still hope VenusBlood overtakes it though.

>>22618407
You missed practically their entire history. They've been fucking up since day 1 until now.

>>>/vg/275744472

>>22618653
Why was this deleted?

>>22618674
I didn't bother to check the metadata before posting like a retard. It's just a collection of touhou songs.

>>22618680
Oh.

The R18 patch is already up in the pastebin.

>>22618809
>Adult Patch Version 1.00

>All sex scenes are restored.
>All CGs modified to remove nudity have been restored.
>Restored removed CG and nude character standing illustrations.
>Restored nipples to character face window portraits.
>Restored a small number of lines that were cut or modified outside of sex scenes.
>CG Gallery updated to display 18+ CG.
>The Scene Gallery replaces the Movie Gallery.
> Secret Files bonus h-scene unlocks are restored.
->The scenario chart updated to show the proper icon and thumbnail for sex scenes.

Pretty obvious it is Sekai's doing with how quick it got finalised and uploaded after the VN only released a few hours ago. They seemed to know exactly all the cut and modified lines made outside of the h-scenes as well.

>>22618841
It also seems to be relatively well tested to farther boost that it was done by those in the localization team ahead of time.

>Note: Applying the patch after reaching Rain Chapter 7 can cause some side effects (or crashes) related to the Event Jump feature. We recommend applying the patch prior to starting a new game, or shortly thereafter.

>>22618898
The game makes event jump work by making a save game file at every event. If the patch breaks save files, it would be pretty easy to just assume that it would break past the point where there's changes to the script. Or Chapter 7, since that's the first h-scene.

The shills are in full fucking force in the /vg/ and /v/ threads. Claiming that Sekai Project did nothing wrong. That an uncut release is just naturally unthinkable for GIGA. That Sekai Project are unsung heroes here and that this restoration patch is obviously officially sanctioned by not only Sekai Project but likely GIGA as well.
That this was somehow a clever ruse for Sekai Project and GIGA to be able to release an uncut release together without GIGA losing faith.

Why would you EVER bend over this much to give Sekai Project this much benefit of the doubt?
Why? They've lied about this kind of stuff numerous times in the past, and they've lied constantly ever since they started business, about other stuff as well. Why trust them? Why give them the benefit of the doubt?

>>22618898
I'm willing to bet that the U18 version is broken and poorly tested, and this is their way to head those issues off.

All that consternation could have been avoided had someone leaked about the +18 patch existence some weeks ago.

>>22619024
>The shills are in full fucking force in the /vg/ and /v/ threads. Claiming that Sekai Project did nothing wrong.
Anyone else tempted to push Venus Blood to shut down the Sekai Project shills?

>>22619199
Ironically enough Venus Blood does many of the things the Sekai Project shills claim is impossible.
Like releasing both an all ages and 18+ version.

>>22614001
who literally cares if the end result is that we get to play uncensored giga games? the other option is that they ignore the west and we don't get anything.

>>22619241
Or they don't shut down fan translators who are doing a better and faster job than they are.

>>22619241
Are you this >>22613885 guy from reddit?

>>22619218
What does Venus Blood have to do with Giga?

>>22619252
Do you have a counter argument or are you here to post reddit screenshots?

>>22619273
How about reading the replies to that post?

>>22619277
How about posting them here, mr. reddit?

>>22619316
What? The post in this thread retard.

>>22615699
>I'd unironically pay $74.99 for an unfucked copy.
I'd have paid $100 for an unfucked Kuroinu release rather than the horrific release that mangagamer did for $75.

What if Futsuu finished his translation of Baldr Sky?

What would the cartel version of this look like?

>>22620369
>Really? Can I call you Ainy then?
>Go for it! Since we're buddies now, I'll call you Yucky instead of Yuno!
>What? You'd better call me Mrs. Yuno if you don't want to fail the next test.

>>22620369
Feel free to play Baldr Sky up to Aki route to find out. I'm also interested in how they butchered that scene.

>>22620393
Not bad. That's pretty much what I'd expect.

https://twitter.com/dobacco/status/1208115732040437760?s=19

Dovac wins again. Why can't he stop winning?

>>22620795
Give him 12 hours. He'll have another meltdown or bring up how hard his dick is from looking at his coworkers again.

>>22617130
Me too. I'd like to play it in the next 8 years

>>22620795
Damn, I want to tell him I don't believe in him but I'm already blocked.

How much in demand are hackers these days? I think I could make tools for someone if they bought shit for me in exchange

>>22621267
They're more in demand than translators.

>>22616955
So just like your opinions?

>>22621267
There aren't exactly many fan translations around these days which limits the need for hackers in the first place. That said programming is the bottleneck at most localization companies so they are in demand there.

>>22621374
That is kind of because they accept hacks as translators.

As sad as it is, I could probably MTL, edit and re-write scripts just as well as any of the hired translators.

>>22620393
T. Yucky Chan.

>>22620393
Sounds accurate. I'm glad the cartel saves us from bad sounding honorifics and give us natural English like Yucky.